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I get wanting national pride, but holy shit this is a blatant

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I get wanting national pride, but holy shit this is a blatant fucking lie.
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>>156217687
They keep lying like this, and we're gonna see how many nukes the samurai can actually cut mid-air.
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>>156217770
Let's make sure to not forget to send a second one just because we can just like last time.
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The japanese are some of the whiniest and most asshurt nations on earth when it comes to WW2. Feel lucky that you can't read japanese or else you'd be subjected to 24 hour non-stop asspain.
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>>156217687
>>156218087

Are you that buttblasted by fiction, burger?
Then better don't read any European fiction based on modern fantasy.

They shit on you even more than nips ever will.
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Everything will be okay as long as we can enjoy anime and manga in peace together.
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>>156218151
If japan had won WW2 they would have committed so many atrocities, you faggots lucked out on WW2.

Remember all those girls saving their virginity, lost them to American soldiers gathering war brides. Probably had sex for a ration bar of chocolate.
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>>156218151
>European fiction based on modern fantasy

What?
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Why are muricans so oversensitive about everything?
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>>156217687
>this is a blatant fucking lie
That's called fiction dumb burger.
What's next? Making a thread on /tv/ about how "The man in the high castle" is a fucking blatant lie?
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Not as blatant as making America the good guys in every Western movie.
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>>156218624
The truth is the truth.
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>>156218411
>japs lie and manipulate facts
>calls everyone else oversensitive and burgerlard
>even though /a/ is 90% latin american
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>>156218813
Only Americans/Korean/chinks would be butthurt about that and dumb enough to not understand what fiction is.
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>>156218813
fucking this japs are the worse.

>America and Japan best friends, we will never betray each other
>Admiral Perry allowed us to undergo technological advancements
>Perry could have subjugated the whole island, but just wanted a port
>decades later
>Bomb pearl harbor for no reason except to obtain hegemony in Asia
>Gets BTFO by America
>Cry foul.
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>>156217687
>Napoleon never conquered Britain
>the British never fled to America
>British-America never conquered Japan and Europe and the Middle East
Holy fuck, Code Geass was lying all along.
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Wasn't this a meme translation? I thought it he ALMOST led Japan to a WWII victory. Regardless it is a pretty silly revision of history by any standards. I'm no expert how far Japan went in this universe but if spirit was important in warfare than chinks would've won through pure despair. They went through some hard shit in decades of war with Japan AND themselves.

Also this is a typical high school battle manga so the only thing that should be taken seriously is the ass and titties.
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>>156218813
>>156218087
>>156217770
>look it up
>it's a fiction fantasy manga
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>>156219248
Comparing fucking ancient events to something concurrently. This would be like saying hitler didn't specifically targeted 6 millions jews, they were rebels working with the bolsheviks and other radicals to undermine germany sovereignty.

WW2 just happened 70 years ago, this is case of being butt mad.
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I think some people are just jealous that they would never be able to get away with this kind of thing in their own country.
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>>156219421
>This would be like saying hitler didn't specifically targeted 6 millions jews
You know it didn't happen, right?
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>>156219421
None of that is relevant. Alternate histories in fucking fiction about people with magic powers simply cannot be lies, and you're retarded for calling them such.
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>>156219421
>This would be like saying hitler didn't specifically targeted 6 millions jews
Really toggles those brain synapses
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God I love the classic setting of

>Quiet boy has secret amazing background and is underestimated by everyone forever
>WHAT? He is related to the guy with THAT POWER?
>No one knows this despite family fame
>Somehow intertwined (Living with immediately) with beautiful Royalty/Rich Girl/Foreigner (in this case all three at once)
>S-SO STRONG! HOW COULD I LOSE TO THIS LOSER??
>NANI???????????????????????????????
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>>156219469
It is relevant you dolt.

Napolean wars were centuries ago, no one alive can relate to that shit. WW2 happenes 70 years ago, people still have sentiments about it, ripples still exist, children who lost their dads in the war, people who grew up during the cold war. If this was 50 years down the line no one would give a shit.

Japan would be so fucking mad, if someone made a comic of them being blatent villians and deserve getting nuked. Or making fun of the japanese tsunami.
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>>156219594
>Or making fun of the japanese tsunami.
Oh yeah, about that.
Americans are literal children, forever buttmad at everything screaming "No I won!!!".
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>>156219594
So? Who cares? Some of the people depicted as lewd children in Strike Witches were still alive when it aired and nobody gives a shit? Nobody is forcing you to read this manga.
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Isn't Japan winning the war literally that one page and it's never mentioned again?
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Take it to /int/ you huge faggots.
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>Japan winning WWII in fiction.
Why do Nips want this in their fiction. WWII Japan was a fucking nightmare and treated the rest of Asia like dog shit.

Russo-Japan/WWI Imperial Japan expanding its influence in Asia would make more sense, since it wasn't as bat shit and evil as its WWII variant.
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>>156220072
Why are you acting as if this is generalized over all Japanese media?
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>>156220116
Because literally 7/10 times it is when some form of media involves alternate timeline, Japan won the Pacific War during WWII.
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>>156220216
Is this a problem?
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>>156220278
Everything is a problem for a redneck.
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>>156220072
Russia never wanted anything to do with Japan.
Oops, this is going to start an offtopic debate, right?
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>this thread
Absolutely embarassing
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>>156220278
Only when it doesn't involve literal magic
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>>156217687
You're two years late to the party. Fuck off.
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>>156220418
Even if it didn't why does somebody else's fiction being put to paper bother you so much? Are people not allowed to think these things? Are you from some 3rd world country where your government tells you what you can and can't think or something?
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>>156218087
Are you sure you're not looking at a mirror, amerilard?
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>>156220278
See: >>156220418

And the fact WWII Imperial Japan was terrible and not the version of Japan that should be the one to win an alternate WWII for the Japs. It should be WWI/Russo-Jap Imperial Japan which wasn't a big shit.
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>>156220503
See>>156220486
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>>156220503
I think I heard that the alternate Japan from this manga wasn't fucking insane and genocidal.
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>>156220486
>Use real life history for the back bone of your book and doesn't involve magic.
>Doesn't apply real life reason why X happened or how it occurred.
>Never being a historian.
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>>156219905
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>>156220545
I still don't get why this bothers you so much. How is this different from any other type of lazy writing, like let's say a generic harem?
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>>156220596
because murka, fuck yeah! same reason it's always the fucking yanks getting all asshurt about gate
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>>156220707
Fuck off frogposter.
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>>156220596
Generic harem will atleast give you a proper reason: The girls just like the boy. Or he's kind.
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>>156220681
The funny part is most them pretend not to be burgers when being called out despite their own writing damned them as one.
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>>156219986
Yep, it's only said for the sake of saying it. Completely irrelevant to the plot in any way.
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fucking yanks
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>>156220486
God forbid that cultural works should be subject to any judgement whatsoever
While one need not agree with critics, one would have to be a philistine of the highest order to scrap them entirely.
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>>156219446
Pls go back /pol/
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>>156217770
We'll just send Washington after them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7iVsdRbhnc
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>getting mad because someone wrote an alternate history in a fictional fantasy story
For what purpose?
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>>156221960
The turner diaries were just alt history
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>>156217687
They got nuked twice and castrated after the war so they have a complex about it. As long as they don't start that WWII shit again just let them be.
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>>156219163
>burgers actually believe this

US was so scared of the jap force they had to drop nukes and even then they didn't do a full invasion and pussied out on killing the emperor.
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>>156222268
>we have these bombs we wanted to hit germany with to freak out russia
>shit germany is kill
>fuck it japan is still there use it on them

>kill emperor
>entire nation commits sudoku

Is this what you wanted?
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>>156222268
That's a funny way to say America got bored and decided to end things before the Japanese banzai'd themselves into extinction.
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>>156217687
>Fiction doesn't always follow reality
Color me impressed
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>>156219163

holy shit, is this american education?
so much wrong with it
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>>156222268
US didn't need to do a full invasion. It literally could've just sat in the water and kept fire bombing Japan and millions would die from starvation (Which was already projected).

The nukes were a test and quicker way to get the war to end.

The emperor part is on the fault of MacArthur being a dumb ass.
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>>156222268
The Germans already lost to the Russians, the Allies delivered a crucial blow but Russia was the big guy that the Germans feared.

Japan was getting destroyed by Russia as well and lost several important naval battles, they where so fucking desperate they where trying to shame people into driving manned torpedoes because they lacked the economy to sustain a full war vs the incoming Russians and the Americans.

The japanese refused to give up and tried a bail out with the Russians, Murica drops the freedom bomb, Japan is still trying to hold on to its pride, Russia makes another advance and the japanese start to fear for themselves, Murica drops the second freedom charge.

Japan BTFO in an epic fashion.

Japan tried to hold up its traditions in the most coward way possible, they where willing to sacrifice their citizens to preserve their fucking emperor and their stupid traditions.

As a result they became the perfect testing ground for the nukes since Murica preferred to avoid sending more soldiers to their deaths, did I also mention that they wanted to show their new toy to the Russians?

It's a shame for the civilians, but you can blame "Muh emperor" for this shit, they didn't want to give up after the first nuke, remember that.
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>>156219882
Shitbook is really full of retarded people.
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>>156217687
I don't care about it but I agree it reeks of insecurity and pretty cringeworthy.
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>>156219163
Thats 'murrica for you, believing that globalization is a good thing simply because you're on top. Thing is, colonialism screwed over every country which wasn't european by subjecting them to a culture and development they weren't ready for. Japan did the right thing back then by isolating themselves. They had the right to do it instead of some random faggots coming out of nowhere and deciding they had to play by their rules.

To make a comparison Japan was /a/ and 'murrica were the reddit shitposters who came to spam Naruto threads back in the day.
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>>156222268
The bombs were dropped to prevent Russia from going gibs me dat on Japan like they did with Germany. It was a show of power. If Japan surrendered to US they would become their subject nation, meaning if Russia tried anything they would be entering war with the united states and would've given them a justification to use the bombs on Russia. Europe wouldn't object, either. Britain was already planning to start world war 3.

It was by far the single strongest move the united states could make and was hugely beneficial to Japan as well.
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>>156222950
>Russia was the big guy the Germans feared.
>80% of Russian supplies was American.
>General of the Soviet Army and Stalin both admit without the US, Russia would be buttfucked to all hell.

>Germany didn't want the US to enter into the war and made plans to try and delay it at all costs.
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>>156223231
Russia had no naval projection power to take Japan, Anon. Russia was borrowing ships from the US at the time.

You mean to tell me Russia would literally fight the US Navy to invade Japan, the nation the US has encircled?
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>>156217687
Relax. Lies made czechs fight for independence from Austria
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>>156222999
>waaah globalization is bad
It's natural process, which has started back in the late XIX century and you can't stop it
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>>156219882
Americans seem so retarded because their education system is designed that way. It teaches them no critical thinking skills what so ever
and their mainstream media is a 24/7 blast of propaganda and politically motivated misinformatiion.

Of course they come across as stupid, they're raised to be.
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>>156223300
There would be no fighting, at least not openly. Russia was still allied with the united states. It would've been a repeat of Germany where all the allies tried to rush in to take land before the end and result in a split of Japan just like East and West Germany which destabilized Germany until 1990.

By them surrendering to the US before any sort of invasion they were able to salvage some of the government, such as the emperor, which greatly aided in preventing further destabilization and sped up the recovery which led to their sovereignty as early as 1952.
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>>156218368
He thinks that Varg is representative for European fiction writers these days.
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>>156222268
They bombed the Eastern Islandmonkeys because they didn't want to waste resources on a land invasion.

And Japs are lucky they only got nuked by the USA.

The Soviets were preparing to Nanking them full force since the European front was closed.
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>>156222268
>>Don't drop the nukes and invade us by land so we can send our troops on baneling charges against you
>>In return we won't call you pussies 70 years later on the internet

Yeah, that's a nice trade you're offering there.
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>>156218649
But Walken was the good guy. America weren't perfect but they were still the biggest pillar for humanity.
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>>156222950
>thinking the emperor had any control over the military at all
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>/a/ - Politically Incorrect
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>>156218087
>>The japanese are some of the whiniest and most asshurt nations on earth
>proceeds to whine and be asshurt about a fictional fantasy manga
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Two nukes weren't enough.
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>>156223977
Anon, the invasion of Japan would have no Russian involvement what so ever.

The US would not allow Russian forces to take part or join in/set foot in Japan. MacArthur himself even stated it.
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>>156225705
By law of the Constitution of Imperial Japan he does.

This is like saying:
>Thinking the President of the US has any control over the military at all.
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>>156217687
>your ass itches because someone's telling lies in a work of fiction
It's not even good, what's the point of making a thread like this honestly?
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History revisionism is dangerous
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>>156227566
Are you scared alternate history in media is out to change history books or something? People who read this manga are going to start burning history books and make the US admit that they lost to Japan in WW2?
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These threads must be like a magnet for all of the autists on /a/

Half of them are trolling mean while the other half are jerking off their history grades. Top kek thanks for making my 4/22
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>>156217687
>but holy shit this is a blatant fucking lie.
Of all the things I can call bullshit on in Rakudai, Japan winning WWII doesn't register anywhere near the top of my list. How about a family that is so deadset on carrying out a grudge against their own child that even after he bests one of the top students in single combat they still go out of there way to try and squash any hopes he has of being knighted.

If my kid who had less spirit juju than a toddler beat one of the best I would wear a T-shirt with their face on it and brag to everyone. Shit is downright retarded.
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>>156223231
>Britain was already planning to start world war 3.
And we would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you pesky kids.
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>>156217687
LEAVE /POL/TARD
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>>156218087
That would be the kikes. They still have a victim complex and still try to fake news the world with nonsense such as gas chambers and muh ovens.

Hell, the Prime Minister of Israel said that Hitler wasn't trying to genocide the kikes.
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>>156220594
That's not how you hold figures, stupid grandpas.
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>>156227085
Russia had actually declared war and started invading Japanese controlled territory outside of Japan itself on august 9th, later that day the second bomb was dropped. On august 14th Japan surrendered to the allies but the soviet invasion continued until September 2nd when Japan formally signed the agreement on the Missouri.

Short of actual hostilities between the US and Russia, which the formal surrender would entail because Russia would be attacking US occupied territory, they wouldn't have stopped.
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>>156219436
Yeah kinda
In places like China and N. Korea the populace HATE westerners, because they've been taught that whitie is actively trying to invade them and that they commit atrocities against their own people. And because of their strict censorship and propaganda, they'll never find out just how badly their governments are treating them

That's some primo manipulation, but at least they don't have an anti-culture destabilization element like the West does, with 'turn a blind eye to immigrant rapists' type shenanigans
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>>156220278
People don't have a problem.

The Man in the High Castle is one of the most viewed shows on Amazon Prime and it deals with what if Hitler had won.
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>>156228453
Then do we agree that OP is a faggot and that this thread has in fact very little to do with /a/?
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>>156222415
What's wrong with that? America could just then claim Japan as it is own. The winner goes the spoils.
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>>156228409
While in modern media it is trying to indoctrinate the populace with pro Chinese such as Independence Day II and how the Chinese save the day.

I'd rather America stick to hating commies, because fuck commies.
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Japanese people like to circlejerk their own culture. Everyone knows this
In just about every 'cultures clash' setting, there's ALWAYS a scene where foreigners lose their shit over Jap raw fish '''cuisine'''
They always talk up their historical figures to be on par with shit like Caesar
They're always the ones left standing after alien invasions or whatever, cataclysmic events
They're always the forerunners in world-changing scientific breakthroughs

Of course it's stupid, but if it matters so much to you why are you even watching Japanese media?
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>>156217687
Actually, Rakudai is an alternative history setting, but in the adaptations but they almost forgot to mention the entire premise, specially in the anime where not a single word was mentioned.
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>>156228453
>comparing one of the seminal works of alternate history fiction
>the granddaddy of all modern stories in that vein
>to shitty Nippon Banzai self fellating mango number 1 million
OP is dumb because it's not even that they disagree with it, they're acting as if the story is lying about history rather than just being alternate history fiction. But that doesn't make the story any less retarded simply because Man the High Castle got a popular adaptation. It's been pinfluential primarily because it was way to examine how history played out and that creeping horror of what the future might be like under a Nazi victory that was very present in the mind of the world 70 years ago. It wasn't some butthurt German making a story about how awesome it would've been if Germany had won.

Not that the immediate question matters either, because most people don't know or care about niche Japanese masturbatory alternate histories. And the ones that do are mostly weebs anyway so it's right up their alley.
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>>156228593

when you were younger it was easier to pretend anime/games weren't Japanese, partly because of technology
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when you are young you don't differentiate Japanese media from Western media

as you grow older you start to realize things

Than you start to complain how JRPG characters are effeminate and how moe are ruining things
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>>156228453
The Man in the High Castle is an exploration of what the world would have ended up like if the Axis had won insofar that there would have been some good and many bad points. At most it's a neutral "what if?" take.

Most of the time when the Nips write this shit it's empty circlejerking. What significance does it actually present to the story except to make Japan feel better about itself?
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>>156228905
Faggots from other boards do this. If you don't like anime/manga then just leave.
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>>156217687
I'm not sure who's worse chink threads or 'murican butthurt over fantasy manga.
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>>156228918
Why does it need a greater purpose? Can't the author just write whatever he wants and then his audience can choose whether or not they want to read his stuff? Did you know that erotic fanservice also doesn't have a greater purpose?
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>>156228905
JRPG characters are still way better than WRPG which are full of SJWs and political correctness.
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>>156227110
De jure he did, de facto he didn't. The Emperor was a ceremonial figure for most of the war, uninvolved in the actual military shit.

For perspective of how detached the Emperor was, the Jewel Voice Broadcast declaring Japan's surrender was in older formal language that the citizenry at large couldn't understand.

>>156228984

I personally don't enjoy excessive fanservice for its own sake, but even if I did at least that's something roughly half the population can enjoy on some level for any given display.

The only people who enjoy the idea of Japan winning WWII are a handful of Japs and faggoty weebs. Doing it only for its own sake is fucking stupid and pathetic.

If you want a basis of comparison of how to make Japan relevant and interesting without having to do a total nationalism jerk, look at Code Geass.
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>>156217687
If Japan won the WW2
It means the Nazi won too
Just think about it
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>>156228984
The author has a freedom to write whatever he wants, even if it's a version of WWII which is all about hot chicks fighting in skimpy outfits, and people who read it have the freedom to complain that it's not very good alternate history.
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>>156228011
Honestly it feels like it's parodying Asian parenting
The problem is Japan has a complete lack of self reflection
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>>156229110
>The only people who enjoy the idea of Japan winning WWII are a handful of Japs and faggoty weebs.
And the only people who get this bothered are butthurt Americans who can't stand their history being disrespected. The rest of us don't care either way, because it's a footnote. You seem to be ignoring that my issue here is how big pussies Americans are about this shit. Just accept that someone somewhere wrote something you didn't like, stop trying to get everyone to agree with you that you dislike of it is objective and not just a result of personal taste. Realize that you're acting like an oversensitive bitch.
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>>156229110
>The only people who enjoy the idea of Japan winning WWII are a handful of Japs and faggoty weebs. Doing it only for its own sake is fucking stupid and pathetic.
I don't like it any more than you do anon, but pretending that appealing to the nip readers is not super fucking relevant is a bit myopic. Manga and anime are still primarily meant for a Japanese audience.

>If you want a basis of comparison of how to make Japan relevant and interesting without having to do a total nationalism jerk, look at Code Geass.
Code Geass goes to the other end of the spectrum: it plays into Japan's ridiculous victimhood complex about the war. It's sort of part and parcel of the gung ho "we wudda won the war" stuff too. One plays to the nationalistic dream, the other to the nationalistic victimhood complex born out of the failure of the former.

I'd say Shin Godzilla did it better, though that's not anime.
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>>156229113
Would explain Stella's 'royal attire'
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>>156229200
I wouldn't exactly be praising Code Geass if I thought that America losing ever was a bad thing. Hell, America proper never gets to fucking exist in Code Geass due to butterfly effect fuckery. That's neat. That's interesting.

Japan having the main deposit of the new fuel and being highly successful at trade before they get the same sort of treatment many oil-rich countries have received over the years in our own history. That's plausible, that's interesting.

I'm not against alternate history, just either give a plausible reason for it to happen or give it a meaningful impact on the story. Don't just go "BTW we won WWII :^)" to make yourself feel better about getting nuked.
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>>156229302
>just either give a plausible reason for it to happen or give it a meaningful impact on the story.
Why? You're not the target audience so why does your opinion matter?
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>>156229200
>And the only people who get this bothered are butthurt Americans who can't stand their history being disrespected.
You don't have to give a shit about America to care about this. History being disrespected is something that can piss off anyone of any nationality. Many people who like history think it's ridiculous when people write "feudal" settings which look nothing like actual feudal societies (whether in Europe, Asia, or anywhere else), and not because they're time travelers from a thousand years ago.

I like alternate history that takes itself seriously. Zipang, for example, actually bothers to the historical realities of the era. If people are just going to change random shit on a lark and not care, I don't mind that either - it's just obviously some random bullshit that's part of the setting and shouldn't be taken any more seriously than the physics of a girl pulling an oversized hammer out of a backpack that obviously doesn't fit. But it's still not going to be fantastic alternate history.
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>>156229328
Nobody here is the target audience of anything, so I guess we should all stop having opinions.
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>>156229113
Nazis don't exist in Rakudai setting. In the setting Japan was allied with some undefined european kingdom/empire.
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>>156229328
Depends on what you mean. The author has the right to write however he wants, just like you and I have the right to critique it.

I said it was lazy and bad writing. If you want to disagree and aren't interested in talking about why you would think it good or interesting writing, then we're basically done talking.

For what it's worth, virtually no one here is the target audience of any manga, so if that's how you judge who has the right to discuss and criticize manga then we should just delete the board.
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>>156229343
>it's just obviously some random bullshit that's part of the setting and shouldn't be taken any more seriously than the physics of a girl pulling an oversized hammer out of a backpack that obviously doesn't fit.
That's my entire point. You fags don't sperg about that, so don't sperg about this. It's just as ridiculous.
>>156229377
I also said it was lazy writing earlier in the thread, I also said that nobody would get this offended about a generic harem comedy. You're just a huge bitch and you can't deal with it.
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>>156229412
>generic harem comedy
Rakudai isn't a harem tho
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>>156229059

SJW would complain if there is crossdressing joke or (insert gender) issue

But people who complain about SJWs are the same ones that make youtube rants about how JRPG characters are too effeminate or how a Japanese game is somehow too "weaboo"
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>>156229436
I'm using that as an example of other lazy writing. I'm not saying Rakudai is a harem.
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>>156229412
>You fags don't sperg about that, so don't sperg about this. It's just as ridiculous.
Hammerspace is a big joke and everyone treats it accordingly. If your history, like your physics, is a big running joke and you don't expect anyone to take it seriously, sure. But that's often not the case.
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World would be a better place if Japan and Germany won WW2 to be honest. Prove me wrong.
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>>156229412
You're the one inferring I'm offended.

Also, believe it or not, generic harem comedies get criticized all the time.

I'd say that you are just a weeb who likes the idea of JAPAN STRONK, but since you haven't made any comment indicating such I won't make asinine assumptions.

Don't fall for OP's bait. this can actually be discussed on a more nuanced level.
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>>156229495
We wouldn't have Freddie Mercury singing for Queen because Nazis hated gays
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>>156229609
>I'd say that you are just a weeb who likes the idea of JAPAN STRONK
This is my issue. You act as if someone must feel strongly about this in some particular direction. I don't care either way and I don't see why I should. This is a literal non-issue. This is only a problem if you think someone should be beholden to your standard of respect for history over their own creative freedom.
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>>156229368
In a better written series said Undefined Euro nation could be Stella's when it was first setting.
And we could visit the damn place for an arc and we get some world building on it.
The timeline matches up too since Stella is called the Second Princess.
You could argue her grandparents were the first King and Queen, her Mother the First Princess and she the second.
But hey that's if we wanted the story to be more than 'Ikki's parents are Persona 5 villains who apparently have zero morals'
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>>156229685
If you serve corn syrup on white bread and people eat it up, saying that it's a pretty shit food does not mean I think that someone should be "beholden to my standard of respect for the culinary arts over their own creative freedom." It means I think you serve crap food and that the people who eat it have shit taste.

There are three parties here, and we all have the freedom to make what we want, eat what we want, and say what we want. Nobody's "freedom" is being impinged here. We are all enjoying our freedom. Painting the debate like one of us is trying to oppress the other is stupid.
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>>156229685
I'm not saying the guy shouldn't be allowed to write it, which would actually be restriction of creative freedom, and if it were about "respect for history" then I wouldn't like anything with alternate history, which I've already posted to the contrary.

But I have the freedom to call it bad writing. I can also criticize a piece of media while respecting it isn't for me and that it has the right to exist.


If me posting my opinion bothers you then you're the one that needs to leave.
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>>156229368

so they allied with Hydra?
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>>156229764
>>156229763
The issue is also because you two deviated from the thread's topic away from what OP was saying. I'm not arguing that you can't call it bad I was just saying that it's stupid to get worked up over bad writing and it being related to something one cares about like history doesn't change this.
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>>156220486
So USA is a third world country according to this logic?
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>>156229839
There are no illegal opinions in the US, so no. Maybe opinions that the culture frowns upon but nothing illegal so the government isn't involved.
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>>156229821
Man wouldn't THAT a surprise on the wedding day
>Ikki leans in and says 'Hail Hydra' after Stella has already said her vows and had the ring on her and has a baby inside.
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>>156229495
Nah,I don't want to live by eating tree barks and die from malaria in a railway construction railway camp.
Their German friends also didn't pay for tungsten, tin and rubber they took into their U-boats.
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>>156229495
Try reading pretty much any Japanese memoir of the period and get back to us, why don't you?
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>>156217687
How is it possible to have won the war against Japan and still be triggered by fiction about alternate possibilites.

If anyone should be triggered by anything it should be the Russians by how Burgers sold that their intervention won WWII on europe when the Soviet Union decimated 80% of the Wehrmacht. Just take a look at documentaries from both fronts, the Burgers were all traumatized saying how their front was horrible, but then you take a look at those who experienced both fronts and they tell you that the Burger front was like a walk in the park compared to the sheer brutality on the russian front.
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>>156229110
youre actually wrong. Go read Hebert.P.Bix's Hirohito and the making of modern Japan to understand more about the emperor.
He literally could do whatever he wanted
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I also don't like it when they do shit like this.

But then again Rambo is not American history either, you'd have to be really petty to get upset at this.
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>>156230480
Neat, that looks like a good read. Thanks for the suggestion.
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>>156230480
That book is contested by almost all other scholars of the period.
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/a/ is a pretty cool place when discussing things other than /a/nime. No sarcasm or anything.
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>>156217687
And yet ironically the most gloriously patriotic and completely factual depiction of liberty, freedom, and American pride was made by Japan and never widely distributed elsewhere. Nothing even America's made has topped it since.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Genl242_ZU8
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>>156229763
>food analogy
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>>156230838
>Better than Washington
Hold the fuck up. Washington is a God to the Americans, no one is better than him.

Anyone who says otherwise isn't American.
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>>156230480
>>156230565
I only found it just now, but the section titled "Reexamining Emperor Hirohito's Role and Power" in "The End of the Pacific War: Reappraisals" seems like it might be a useful survey of how different historical assessments have developed over the years before getting ass-deep into a book about the issue.

One of the things about history is that different historians have different interpretations and that these interpretations develop over time and I personally don't think that Bix has the right of it. He's obviously done more research than me and I might be biased in recommending this overview, but there's historians on all sides of the issue.

That particular section (pages 39-54) is publicly available here:
https://books.google.com/books?id=XjW49VTRhxQC&pg=PA39
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>>156229839
You can't mix human welfare and economics, just like you can't mix science and religion.

Either, your country makes the welfare of its citizens a priority, over "making money", or it puts "making money" as a priority over the welfare of its citizens.

Clearly, USA has chosen the latter. That's why it makes 13 trillion dollars a year in GDP, yet the average american dual income family makes less than 50 thousands dollars, has no savings, poor health, chronic illnesses, malnourished, poorly educated, and will die in debt, its savings wiped out by some crooked unregulated insurance company.

America is basically a third world country in terms of quality of life but you'd never tell, because all its misery is carefully hidden behind a wall of consumption and fancy consumer goods, all bought on borrowed money.
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>>156230928
But the Super Liberty mech that Washington piloted to defeat the British Empire was destroyed in his final duel with Supreme British Overlord George and his personal Buckingham Buster, which ended with their shirtless fistfight to the death on top of their destroyed mecha. Everybody knows that.
Objectively speaking, the technology we're using today is far more advanced to combat more advanced threats. That means our President must be equipped for space battles and the like.
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>>156226412
Bound to happened anon. /jp/ is the only board unaffected by /pol/
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>>156231443
That's only because discussion of anything remotely political, historical, economic, or sociological is banned in /jp/. And for all that, the roaches manage to sneak in anyway.
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>>156231374
>America is basically a third world country in terms of quality of life.
What mate?
I bet you think N. Korea, China, and Russia are first world countries don't you.
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The one true hero of Nanking when the evil chinese invaded Japan.
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>>156231525
And an illegal nerdy alien is the top superhero of america fiction.

So?
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>>156231518
Them being nations that don't line up with your culture doesn't mean the leaders of those nations doesn't care about their people.
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>>156231443
And funny enough no other boards can affect /pol/.
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>>156231622
The leaders of those nations don't give a fuck about them though and carry about making money only for them self than they do for the citizens.
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>>156231374
Suck my dick, america is a decent meritocracy. Only people who complain about america, are rich suburban fags who got everything handed to them. Deapite this you ended up doing jack shit in life.

People are constantly going up socioeconomic ladders and down. Better than whatever the fuck japan is doung by enforcing a semi-rigid caste system.
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>>156219421
Nobody claims 6 million jews died anymore since that number is ridiculously large.
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>>156231797
Millions of people die all the time.
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>>156231797
>Nobody claims 6 million jews died
Fuck off antisemite.
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>>156230554
Rambo is part of the american history at least 1 and 2, many people think that is just like "murica fuck yeah" movie, the message of First Blood is how America treated like shit the veterans of Vietnam, in FB how Rambo gets treated like shit by the police that bring his PTSD up and makes go Guerrilla Warfrare on the police.
Part two was about how america shat on the veterans that were left in vietnam in concentration camps.

After that 3 is anti-communism propaganda (although its partialy true due to how murica supplied the mujadinn (sp?) with stingers to bring down the Hinds)
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>>156228918
>At most it's a neutral "what if?" take
It's pretty clear it's a dystopia.
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>>156228593
The pop culture of any nation puts itself at the center of it all. The trait is not unique to Japan or America.
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>>156231622
Okay it's actual fact N.Korea doesn't care for it's people though.
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>>156231754
America is doing terrible. It is 21 trillion in debt, lower work force, more people on welfare(People shouldn't be on welfare at all, but you baby boomers fucked over future generations), people making the same wages they were making 30 years ago, businesses that would rather hire illegals over actual citizens, you've got an over abundance of oldfags that won't die out and are draining the resources of the government and the young to subside their oldfags ways thanks to Social Security, and morality is at an all time low.
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>>156232181
Maybe the Japanese side, but the Nazi's are pretty sympathetic.

>Julia seeks Asylum in Greater Nazi Reich
>doctors ask basic questions and check up on her
>Smith and Julian are driving and see the streets are clean
>people have a strong family tied and people actually have conversations with each other
>Nuclear family where everyone knows their roles and respect one another
>Helen tells Julia that they don't lock the doors in Greater Nazi Reich
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>>156229412
>nobody would get this offended about a generic harem comedy.
You must be new here. Because bitching about harem anime/manga happens all the time. People were complaining when UQ Holder stopped having a plot and went right back to Negima! tier harem bullshit. People complain whenever the MC has more than one female love interest introduced because they all know whatever momentum the author had is going to die thanks to pandering.

Harem is almost guaranteed to result in lazy writing and padded out, pandering series.
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>>156217687

You know, the disquieting thing about this is, what happened to the rest of the world?

Did Hitler wipe out all the Jews? Is the Third Reich ruling every part of the world except Japan? In fact, is the redheaded heroine's family a group of Nazi sympathizers?

Did the Japanese still butcher and rape the Chinese, Asian and Korean populations? I mean, WWII still went down, right? Japan was renowed for being murderous shitbags. I can't imagine it going well for anyone else.
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>>156231754
>Oligarchy
>Business Cartels running wild
>Medicine sector expensive as fuck.
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>>156233566
What about the Italians? These alternate history of the Nazi's never mention the Italians.
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>>156234030

I honestly don't think anyone cares about the Italians. I'm just wondering if we're all Man in the High Castle outside of Japan.
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Anime and manga need more Hiroshima girls.
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It has nothing to do with nip butthurtery and more with the fact that, once again as anon pointed a long time ago, the MC of rakudai was carefully written to be a gary stu so making him descendant of a pretend hero raises his gary stuness. Writing for useless teenagers was a mistake.
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>>156234030
Italy was a puppet state with a shitty military.

They can't stand anywhere on their own unless its fighting someone like the Austrians (Who they can barely win against.)
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>>156217687
>Fiction is a lie.
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