Dragon Ball Super

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Where's...theee.....LEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKS

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>>156033153

>>156033287
in your pants

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drawfag that made the Xicor Black edit.

any requests?

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That should be Vegeta instead Gohan, he did save him from Cell after all.

>>156033346
Goten but a horse

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>>156033319
N...nani?!

I dont know what's worse

17 being ssb level out of nowhere

or people defending it as somehow rational storytelling

>>156033386
Goten? who's that?

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>>156033383
instead of
fuck im tired

>>156033593
Videl's real dad, as Toriyama stated many times

>>156033454
Tripfagging is worse than those.

>>156033650
>Satan's wife is a beaner trap (Miguel)

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>>156033454
>Expecting rational storytelling from Toei
Top kek

>>156033346
West Black and Zamasu.

>>156034442
doing what?

>>156033153
We're making some improvement. But for how long?

>>156034467
Surprise me. Also, have West Black in the Kaioshin outfit.

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>>156034153
Zamasu's reaction always gets me.

>>156033593
goku black
>>156033454
>ssj1 - planet buster
>ssj2 - solar system buster
>ssj3 - galaxy buster
>SSG/SSB - universe buster
Goku using a universe busting form vs people who can barely blow up a planet is just straight stupid

>>156035202
You can planet bust as low as 18,000, possibly lower

>>156035202
SSB makes it easier for Goku to evenly match his power level to his opponents because it's a calmer state. The real problem is Goku turning SSJ against Krillin and 17, since he shouldn't need to power up against any U7 mortal not named Vegeta.

Serious Goku when?

>>156035554
when Vegeta vows to kill him after the tournament ends for endangering his newborn daughter

>>156035835
Well Vegeta has wanted to kill him before and with how Super Goku is I don't think that'd bother him.

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>>156035554
Never in the anime.

>Be a Saiyan
>Fantastic power gaining potential
>Train your entire life only to be a little bitch compared to Freeza
>Somehow get stronger than him by unlocking a legendary transformation
>Still a little bitch nigga compared to some fucking cybernetic humans
>Fast forward past SSJ2 and 3
>Now have the power of a god, bonafide first/second strongest non god in your universe
>Train like fuck for years worth of time with another strong as fuck god level Saiyan
>Make minimal bitch tier gains on the whole
>The fuccboi with cybernetic parts has been training while watching over animals in a relatively peaceful life while you've been training for SSJ3 tier and beyond opponents since Buu died
>Android at worst only ever had to fight poachers who are 100s of million times weaker than he is
>He gets fucking godlike power too, could give you a run for your money

>>156035988
>implying Goku is wrong in that pic

Based on what we now know about the role of GoDs and Kais to cultivate their mortal level, who would be the ideal replacement for Beerus?

I think Whis is eyeing Vegeta as the chosen successor, but was probably even considering Golden Freeza for a while if he had lived

Goku would be terrible at it

>>156036567
This is an 18+ website kid.

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SQUARE BEAM!

>>156036481
This isn't the result of some paltry training, this is destiny. For you see Number 17 is the legendary super Android.

>>156036594

Vegeta would be ideal. He has no qualms killing but he also wouldn't do it on a whim like beerus.

He also wouldn't shirk his duties like goku would. Before he had a wife and child it would be the perfect fit.

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>>156036567
holy shit. are you underage?

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>>156036651

>>156036594
>I think Whis is eyeing Vegeta as the chosen successor

I agree but I'm not sure Vegeta would have the patience for it. Then again, he did pass along Super Saiyan to a whole other planet of Saiyans

What if Goku is training Uub to be Beerus' replacement?

>>156036717
What black magic is this?

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>>156036583
>The foreshadowing was there, even Gohan was flying along Goku and Vegeta on the ED, what implied he's the third guy on this arc, just like Trunks was on the Zamasu arc, but Toei is hyping 17 too much on magazines and shit. Episode 86 pretty much confirms 17 will be the third guy and Gohan is buried. Not the first time Dragon Ball changes plan at the last minute, see the entire Cell saga

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Soon.

>>156036594
>Golden Freeza
How would that asshole be better than Beerus?

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>>156036717
>quare hole as soon as the drill touches the wood.

>>156036717
Holy shit the paradox is solved

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>>156036717

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Soon.

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>Post yfw Toei and/or Toriyama decide to continue milking the franchise with a new series after Super named DB: Next Generations about the adventures of Uub, Pan, Bra, Marron and 17's childern.

>>156036930
>DB: Next Generations
>Not DB Super Duper

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Is everyone excited to see Jackie Chun hold his own against SSB Kaioken x20 Goku?

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Yamcha is weak! WEAK!

>The most successful GoDs are like a gardener who prunes weeds from among the flowers
>Beerus basically just rips shit out of the ground indiscriminately every few million years if he can be fucked to do it

U7 come on

>>156036930
Is Piccolo still going to be the babysitter/trainer of children?

>>156036930
They're too coward to change Goku's gi permanently. They aren't going to make a series just about character with very little fanbase. They'll be just supporting players in the future arcs if they make a jump to End of Z or post it.

>>156036930
>MC is Gohan and Cocoa's bastard offspring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufrgjcW1CFA

>>156036981
don't forget he'll fuck up a perfectly fine planet if he doesn't like their food.

>Buu can copy things just by seeing them
>he will see 110 people fight
Just how strong is he going to become

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Serious question.

Why did they never bring back Nappa or Raditz?

>>156036981
That's why Zeno want to get rid of U7 and other failures

>>156037054
If he had destroyed Earth U7 would undeniably be the lowest ranked universe

Man Beerus fucking sucks

>>156037036
That would make a good rival for Pan, he/she could have Raditz' personality.

>>156036981
>Sidra just says "hold my beer" to Mojito and just throws a shitload of oil into the grass and lights a match

>>156037188
Just think where U7 would be if Beerus had intervened to kill Buu and hadn't used Frieza as his unpaid intern

>>156037136
because they served their purpose as plot devices.

>>156037136
I don't think Goku has much love for his brother who tried to extort him into being a space pirate by kidnapping his son, or the meathead that brutally murdered most of his friends and the first time he met him was about to literally crush his son under his boot

Basically fuck 'em who needs 'em
Neither of them are good people and there's no reason to believe they wouldn't just start trying to kill people again

>>156037204
The bastard is a guy and the MC. Pan can't be a MC for the lack of a cock and Uub isn't a saiyan, not including nips are racists and anons are even more racists

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>Two episodes in a row about him in order to reintroduce him back into story after so long.
>Fights almost on par against SSB Goku and even tells Goku that he was holding back as well.
>Has several shots in the new OP.
>DBS producer says in interview that got Toriyama's approval to display his strenght and Toriyama himself states that #17 has great potential.

The hype is real boys. Looking forward to him wrecking shit at the universal tournament.

>>156037229
who the fuck let Beerus (or Champa, let's be honest he's no better) be a GoD?

>>156037255
But Raditz was just under order and knew he would probably be killed if he failed the mission. Not to mention he tried peaceful negotiations first.

>>156033153
I agree with your statement OP.

>>156037286
Toriyama would make Uub the main character of a DBS successor whether the fans like it or not.

>>156037320
Fuck the robot! This was Gohan's time to shine. Gohan will be reduced to Piccolo's sidekick on the tournament. Mark my words.

>>156037342
toriyama
Also imagine what would happen if you let beings that powerful run around free instead of binding them to a government position

>they are only 28 planets with life in U7

why the fuck do they need 4 kaios, 4 kaioshins, a GoD and his angel then?

>>156037387
Gohan had two chances and blew them both

>>156037359
Goku doesn't seem like the type to buy the "just following orders" excuse. Raditz was an asshole full stop. Goku probably likes to pretend he never even had a brother.

>>156037369
That would make Uub into Dragon Ball's Roman Reigns.

>>156037136
The better question is why would they?

Why do they keep bringing back characters just to ruin their image?

>>156037320
>infinite stamina
>immune to ki
how can you stop him

>>156037410
There were a lot more when they had 5 kaioshin. Shin said Buu destroyed hundreds of worlds in a few years the first time.

>>156037435
Sorry, I don't watch manime

>>156037428
And Vegeta somehow wasnt an asshole?

>>156037410
Isn't Shin the only Kaioshin left?

>>156037320
Reminder that 17 has infinite stamina, so he could probably squeeze a lot more training out of 10 years than anybody else.

Doesn't have to stop to eat or sleep or anything. Just putting that out there.

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>>156037136
I always wanted Raditz, Bardock, or Gine to return somehow. Just to explore Gokus family more. But I think they just don't give a shit about Gokus family that isn't Gohan or Goku himself.
Not even Goten gets any shine anymore.

But we got those specials and mangas about Raditz, Bardock, and Gine. So I'll just be happy with those. Better then nothing.

>>156037410
>28 planets
>there were like 100 different species in friezas army alone

Why do people keep talking about Uub as if he is even relevant.

He appears in Dragon Ball for one volume total, and GT isn't canon, so he is basically the most irrelevant character. His whole purpose was to be the "this is what Goku is going to spend his time on for the rest of his life, please stop making me make more Dragon Ball volumes I've wanted to kill the series every single day since it got popular" character.

>>156037499
Vegeta gets a pass because he's strong and the fight was fun, that's just how Goku operates.

Hit is a literal murderer for hire and Goku still likes him because he's fun to fight. That's just how it is.

Vegeta also redeemed himself later by essentially babysitting Gohan and Krillin on Namek so he's alright.

>>156036981
The successful, flourishing universes are those with a competent Kaio and GoD. If U7 wants to improve, Shin and Beerus need to learn cooperation. Shin needs experience, Beerus needs to be less selfish

>>156037523
That's literally buu's thing just inferior because he has the highest potential around which allows him to fuck around of he wants

>>156037538
>Gine
>return

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>>156037554
>so he is basically the most irrelevant character.
Sure

>>156037469
So, in a cosmic sense, U7 is basically teetering on the edge of extinction for its sentient life as a whole, even disregarding the looming threat of Zeno's oblivion.

U7 a shit. Fuck Beerus especially. He's a lazy, incompetent braggart.

>>156037499
To be fair, Toriyama wanted to kill Vegeta for real but kids loved him so much that he had to extend his life and eventually made him part of the team.

>>156037545
What if? One of the planets was so big, it housed several dominant species that were split into nations with mostly different "races" except instead of races, it was species, and there was some mixing, just like Earth. So between the 28 planets there was actually 100s of different intelligent species, and with all of the strong people out there, many planets with life have gone extinct due to the vegetable mercenaries, freezer, and the beer god destroying people for no good reason?

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I liked Uub. I just wish GT had given him a better turn

>>156037545
>>156037410
Didn't Buu destroy a fuckton of them?

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>>156037680

>>156037625
How can Goku see himself in Uub when he never could see himself

>>156037680
To be fair, Toriyama wanted to end Dragon Ball after the first arc but people kept giving him money for it so he STILL hasn't stopped.

>>156037590
> If U7 wants to improve, Shin and Beerus need to learn cooperation.
If U7 wants to improve, Shin and Beerus need to be REPLACED

>>156037604
Yeah, I should say make her first appearance instead of return for her.

>>156037725
>goku killed frieza

what did he mean by this?

>>156037754
The ending is more of a "Goku wants to train Uub so that he can fight a strong opponent" if you look at the ending again, Goku just wants a matched sparring partner, he doesn't care about a successor, after all Goku isn't a good guy really. He doesn't give a shit anyways.

>>156037725
who would have jobbed without vegeta..?

piccolo?

>>156037780
>you were SUPPOSED To be killed by Goku reffering to Vegeta
>goku killed frieza

what did he mean by this?

>>156037709
Me too. I honestly liked Uub. Just wish he was more than ''Kid in Majin Buu clothes''.

>>156037538
If you think about it, Goku's family seems oddly empathetic for Saiyans.

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>>156037780
Technically he did kill frieza remember? But top ten slides forget to include this for some reason.

>>156037819
I'm trying to imagine the Namek arc without Vegeta and it really sucks

>>156037904
Either Goku would have to arrive early or Gohan and Krillin would be dead as fuck.

>>156037903
wat
Freeza survived that, in the vacuum of space as chunks of meat

Trunks killed Freeza, then Vegeta did. Goku has never killed Freeza

>>156037962
Goku killed him in RoF and the original unaltered timeline.

So when is Trunks getting his sword?

>>156037962
Oh yeah.

>>156037952
Well the best part of Namek was Vegeta being stealthy and screwing over Freeza's whole plan from the ground up, fighting against his former comrades and invading the ship etc.

Without Vegeta the arc becomes really boring in my head. I guess maybe Nail becomes a more important character and he's the one who helps Gohan and Krillin survive?

Always did want to see how Nail would have fared against the Ginyu Force. He was roughly on their level at 42,000

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>>156035835
>>156035906
>implying turbo-manlet vegeta could kill Based Goku-son
LEL = loving every laugh
E
L

>>156038037
No wait I'm wrong, this guy >>156037998
is right

I forgot that Goku stole the kill in RoF

>>156038031
He could just ask Bulma to create one for him.

>>156038052
Nail would probably put up as much of a fight as Vegeta, but yeah, the best part of the Namek arc was Virginia screwing over Freeza while also antagonizing Gohan and the bald one.

>>156038147
Nail was a little stronger, but you're right. Recoome still would have stomped his shit.

Leaks when?

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Why is the SSG transformation used constantly in the manga by Goku and now Vegeta, but in the anime has not being used since the Goku vs Beerus fight?

Someone said because Toyotaro actually cares about consistency and anyone who says otherwise is lying.

But I think that is why his manga is terrible.
Consistency is boring, we don't need that in DB.
At times, consistency must be sacrificed for the sake of fun in the show. Toyo cannot understand that and the manga suffers for it.

>>156038229
Consistency is fun. Nothing was more like Vegeta than him fucking over black by slipping in split second transformations and gloating

>>156038297
>replying to bait

>>156038201
There is a slight chance that Nail might pull a signature move similar to the Makankōsappō to off Recoome, but even if that happened, Jeice and Burter would finish the job of stopping a mudhole in him.

>>156038297
>Consistency is fun
I feel like if you agree with this statement or not is one of the core splits in the fanbase

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Is there any reason why Trunks was sent to some other universe when he could stay with Goku and the others? I know everyone hates him now but I rather have him in the tournament then Roshi and fucking Jobhan.

>fate of the universe literally at stake
>people aren't doing everything to make sure they are the strongest for the tournament

Why not have piccolo go to namek and fuse with ever namekian

He can become Green God Emperor of all Namekian Kind Piccolo

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>>156038353
what are you, baitpolice?

>>156038367
Poor Nail. He was like the supreme champion of his entire race and the arc just shits all over him.

>>156038419
>Why not have piccolo go to namek and fuse with ever namekian
Because clearly fighting poachers yields way better results.

>>156038398
trunks would have won the tournament by himself


I still dont even know how he got that strong. Imagine him being the powercreep timeline with access to whis, RoSaT, senzu beans, and actual food

they should do training matches where the winner gets to fuck the loser's wife tbqh

>>156038485
>I still dont even know how he got that strong.
He got really mad

>>156038485
>I still dont even know how he got that strong.
Bad writing, it's not rocket science.

I miss the good ol' Namek Arc guys.

>on an alien planet that looks super cool and science fiction
>race to find the dragon balls with lots and lots of tension
>Goku makes the ultimate transformation out of his anger
>they aren't afraid to damage the planet because it's not Earth

Truly epic.

>>156038485
Now that I think about it, it makes no sense that Trunks was still that buff when he was living on half a can of mystery meat every few days

>>156038392
It is.
Especially since the latest episode really took a shit on consistency for fun.

>>156038419
>Why not have piccolo go to namek and fuse with ever namekian

Useless gains since there are hardly any warrior namekians left.

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>>156038544
>for fun.
Not really, the fight was shit regardless.

>>156038398
>why Trunks was sent to some other universe when he could stay with Goku and the others?
Because that's what he and Mai wanted to do. I bet they wanted to stay as far away from Goku as possible.

>I know everyone hates him now but I rather have him in the tournament then Roshi and fucking Jobhan.
Only some butthurt anons actually hate him and the rest were just bandwagoners.

>>156038544
I'm just going with the idea that Goku is adjusting the output of SSB appropriately for each opponent. It works well enough.

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So how strong is base form Goku now? Did he get a major power up with retaining the SSjGod strength, or can he only access it in with the "Saiyan beyond God" state?

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>>156038642

>>156038612
It was cool as fuck when 17 was hitting Goku like a volleyball, it had some good scenes

>>156038714
>when 17 was hitting Goku like a volleyball
That looked stupid as fuck.

>>156038668
literally my favorite meme of 2017. there is nothing that will beat this

>>156038660
>Did he get a major power up with retaining the SSjGod strength
Yes. In the last couple episodes of the BoG arc, Beerus commented that his power level was continuing to climb even after the god power ran out.

So when did Tien set up a Dojo?

>>156038668
Since they can't sense his powerlevel it is entirely possible that's exactly what he's doing

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>>156038767

>>156038753
Just wait until Gohan is the first one eliminated. Out of all 80.

The year is young

>>156038813
The alternative is that Krillin is stronger than SSJ3 so we're not left with a lot of good options here

>>156038822
Vegeta will be gone first

>>156038612
It was a shit fight. Even the animation for simple punching was bad

>>156038822
GOHAN IS THE MOTHER FUKCING STRONGEST CHARACTER IN DRAGON BALL Z SUPER DONT TALK ABOUT GOHAN LIKE THAT HIS POWERLEVEL IS 90,000,000,000+!

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Isn't hinted that Goku is going to get a new transformation/power-up during this arc?

Maybe that's why SSB has been used by Goku in almost every fight since the RoF arc, so it's becoming less impressive than before.

Reminder that the very same thing happened with the SSJ 1-3 and SSG transformations.

>>156038733
it's dragonball, it doesn't have to make sense

>>156038398
>Jobhan
Gohan was close to be great again but then Toei got behind the 17's hype. See >>156036817

>>156039002
>it doesn't have to make sense
That's retarded and doesn't change the fact that it looked stupid.

So do we have any idea who this Yurin chick is?

>>156033454
>17 is ssb level
yea and Bulma is GoD level because she survived getting hit by Beerus with god ki. Kill yourself.

>>156038757
But then why is his base form and SSj getting challenged in recent episodes/arcs? Like I get that realistically, it's because it's Dragon Ball so that's why. But it just confuses me on how strong he is without any transformations.

>>156039043
>Got poisoned by a Furry's beer breath and could barely scratch out a win
Gohan's metric for greatness is pretty low. He's done nothing but eat dirt since Cell.

>>156039137
>being this retarded
wew

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>>156036960

>>156038981
Even if that were the case. Which is most likely is. There is no reason for goku to use it against the likes of krillin or android 17


Even more so there is no reason for 17 to be able to trade blows with SSB Goku without Dr. Gero coming back from the grave and working on him.

If Gero was alive again I could easily see him creating or modifying androids to be even stronger. He was a genius beyond geniuses. The problem is that we are supposed to suspend our disbelief that 17 was off on an island all alone and somehow accumulated a power that rivals the gods with no knowledge of that level of power.

He wouldn't even know how strong Majin buu was for instance. Let alone how strong Golden Frieza and Beerus and shit is.

He could train every single day for 7 years and obtain perfect cell level and think he is a God and it would still be 3 tiers below where goku is.

This does not sit well with me and it is bothering more than it should.

>>156039146
I think the writers have different ideas for how strong he's supposed to be at any given time and power levels have been so vague since Namek that they can mire ir kess get away with whatever.

>>156039057
Well I thought it looked cool, what are you gonna do about it?

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>>156039043
>"jobhan"

>>156039155
he did pretty good against Super Buu

>>156039146
I too am curious about exactly how strong base Goku is at this point. It's hard to gauge the upper limit because he always transforms very quickly now.

>>156039222
Gohan looked pretty good with a tail

>>156039216
>mire ir kess
*more or less

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>>156039155
>Foreshadowing since the end of Zamasu arc
>Gohan and Goku's sparring match before the Survival arc
>Gohan doing a Bloodsport and a Pegasus Rolling Clash and feeling excited for battle for the first time in a long time.
>Mystic mode on the OP
>Flying along Goku and Vegeta on the ED
>Nothing
Toei/Toriyama changed plans

>>156039205
It might as well be for marketing purposes; we won't now if toriyama wanted goku to use ssb in his script until the manga reaches the recruitment part. If he doesn't, it was all for advertising

If Piccolo doesn't use his ability to extend his arms in the tournament I'm calling bullshit. It's the perfect time to do that.

>>156039236
If anime filler is any indication, he can at the very least ignore SSJ3 Gotenks punches.

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Reminder that Tenshinhan will unlock soon his hidden Godlike power.

>>156039342
I don't see why he wouldn't, I mean he already did it against Frost.

>>156039171
>I have nothing to defend my point
>b-better call him some names!
It...It looks like he's finally taken some damage!! Emotional damage!!

>>156039342
The team should be ten namekians and the second the match starts they should all stretch out their arms and push every one out before anyone knows what the fuck is happening

>>156039413
lol.

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>>156039195
Saved

>>156039413
>being this retarded
wew

>>156039236
His base is stronger than everything in Z that's for sure.

>>156039205
We still don't know what kind of training 17 went through and Gohan said back in episode 83 that both androids were modified at cellular level by Dr. Gero, so it's doesn't sound too far-fetched for them to increase their strenght at a higher rate and have a higher potential than normal humans like krillin

Not to mention that Toriyama himself stated that #17 has great potential.

GUYS

LISTEN

WHAT IF

17 was Uub's dad?

>>156039413
*it l-l-looks like he's finally t-taken some damage!! E-emotional damage!!

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>>156039682
How does he have Ki then?

>>156039671
Yeah, people are acting like 17 only did park ranger shit all that time when all we know for sure is what he said
>"I haven't just been sitting around doing nothing"

17 adopted 2 kids because his sister and himself were orphans

>>156039770
that makes sense

>>156039682
Don't think so, Uub said in EoZ that he comes from a very poor village and has a lot of brothers and sisters.

Which doesn't make since 17 earns a good amount of money for ranging the shit out of his island and only has three children.

>>156039738
From his fully organic mother?

H O L D I N G

B
A
C
K

>>156035300
WRONG. Vegeta only made the planet invisible to trick Nappa. The planet was really tiny like 1/10th of Earth.

>literally reusing the "17 had the most potential among all the androids" from GT

But because Toriyama says it's canon, you will eat this shit.

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>>156039222
That Gohan. What a guy

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>>156033153
>Jealous of SSGSS Golden Perfection

>>156039770
Tell that to the annoying cuckfags who keep insisting that 17 adopting orphans automatically make him a cuck, even when he said that he's happily married and has a child of his own.

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Any doubt yet?

>beerus is going to be as fat as his brother because he's stress eating
>champa is stressing so much that he got skinny af

hire me toei

>>156033454
being a tripfag

>>156039768
I never said that. My point is there is 0 training he could have reasonable done within the confines of what we know about dragonball that should let him have anywhere near goku's ssb form powerlevel.

We know that he was inferior to Cell. Gero created him for the sole purpose of being consumed by cell. Gero is a genius who created beings stronger than frieza. If anyone knew the limits of his creation it would be him.

Secondly he didnt want to go with the infinite stamina model because it's entire weakness was stagnation. Sure you were perpetually strong but there was no room for real growth like the ki absorption model or especially cell.

But even forget everything I just said. Let's argue for some reason 17 has the exact same rate of growth Goku/Vegeta does. He still shouldnt have reached SSB level. Vegeta didnt even reach SSB level while training constantly without the help of Whis. Neither did Goku without Beerus coming to Earth.

It makes no sense.

>>156039961
>you will eat this shit.
>implying
I think it's stupid. Hopefully Toyo fixes this shit.

>>156040037
Toyo will be too busy figuring out ways to jack off Super Saiyan God some more to pay any attention to anyone else

>>156039916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnqtg0bte6w
See at 0:57 when the sparkles start happening? That's called a photon burst. It's what happens when you make something invisible. Then it starts color shifting as all the photons are going through it. Vegeta just made the planet invisible this is proof. He was just tricking Nappa because 18,000 can't blow up a planet. I have more proof if needed.

>>156038612
holy shit what the fuck is tha

>>156040070
This. Cuckataro will try to turn 17 into Xicor 3.0

>>156037538
I want a filler episode about Bardock, Gine and Raditz.

I wish Cell would come back for the tournament.

>>156040086
Fuck off back to /pol/ with your unfunny meme.

>>156040003
I guarantee this will be a scene in the ending

>>156040086
this desu chan

>>156039961
I never had a problem with 17 having the most potential out of the androids. He was clearly the leader of the 3 even if 16 was stronger at the time.

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You have summoned me. What are your three wishes?

>>156040194
gib gf

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>>156038612
Holly fuck, Goku, what are you doing?

>>156040194
I want Vados to suck my dick

>>156040194
erase toyotaro from existence so the manga wouldn't be so shit

>>156040187
That had more to do with 16's personality than anything else.

>>156039970
What does Gohan even study? What the fuck is he a scholar of?

We know Toriyama likes the idea of him eventually writing a book about Ki, but how does that even relate to normal studies. It's fucking Ki.

basically what are you even doing Gohan studying geology or biochemistry or physics or what? Because apparently your magnum opus is actually a manual on spiritual martial arts which has nothing to do with science.

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>>156040194
Fuck off and give me a better dragon.

>>156040207
>Cuck, short for “cuckold,” is a term referring to a man with a female significant other who engages in sexual activities with other men. Online, the term is often used as a pejorative to condescendingly describe a male who is sexually inadequate or sexually submissive.

Doesn't said any shit about adopting orphans so please erase yourself faggot.

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>>156040101
A standard Dragon Ball Super fight.

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>>156040194
Make Satania protagonist of all anime in the world.

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Post songs that should've been in the anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjllfs0QyEo
>Bad games like Final Bout get this song
>not once used in Z or Super

>>156040003
That's actually a hilarious idea, they should hire you

>>156040261
compared to his mother, father, grandfather, and brother...just going to school makes him einstein

Not even sure any of the above can read

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>>156040261
He reads "Difficult Book." He would be better off just studying under Bulma.

>>156039994
>injustice superman
he wouldn't even need to go super saiyan

>>156040341
Look mom! i'm calling someone a cuck on the internet, it's so funny lolz xD

Pathetic.

Am I the only one who regularly faps to Vados? her voice makes me diamond

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>>156040194
Make the Dragon Ball Super manga weekly.
Give the animation rights for Dragon Ball to Bones.
Dragon Ball Burst Limit 2 please.

>>156040032
> My point is there is 0 training he could have reasonable done within the confines of what we know about dragonball that should let him have anywhere near goku's ssb form powerlevel.
See this is where you're making your mistake - we only know that androids can train and get stronger. We don't know how quickly they get stronger. It's a complete unknown, so while it might seem strange for 17 to gain that much power in 10 years it's never been stated to be impossible.

All we know is
>Androids can get stronger if they train
>17 trained
>now he's this strong

Is it bullshit? Kind of. But we don't have an precedent for it so I'm going to let it slide just like I let Golden Freeza slide.

>>156037208

>successful GoD mows a lawn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMOASdSu9YU

>>156040259
Fair point

>>156040420
>doing a good deed by giving abandoned kids a home
>dude cuck lmao
fuck off autist

>>156040420
Cuckfags like you are fucking cancer. Hope you burn in hell for all the eternity with your shitty buzzword tattooed in your ass.

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>>156037136
Because Goku is a fucking faggot.

>>156040374
Exactly. Why is he beholden to some university professor that is apparently his very strict boss when he can go learn from A WOMAN WHO BUILT A TIME MACHINE

>>156040395
Nah I love her too, she's best angel still. Pay no heed to the bandwagoners who jumped to other angels.

>>156040488
Or her father who reverse-engineered a Saiyan spacepod to be better than a Namekian starship.

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>>156040194
I wish I was important

>>156040465
>muh good deeds

>>156040406
That's why I made the rest of my post. Even if he has accelerated training results he shouldn't reach Blue. The only reason Frieza even trained is that his henchman bragged about how strong Goku was.

Imagine if Frieza was recently revived but didnt ask about Goku's current level. He wouldn't even try to reach Golden Frieza as he had no benchmark to reach. He could get as strong as Cell or Buu and think he is far stronger than Goku could hope as he didnt realize how much the world has passed him by. 17 would be in a similar situation. Hell he didnt even get to experience how strong perfect cell or ssj 2 is. He didnt have a gravity chamber. He didnt go in the RoSaT once. he doesn't have senzu beans. Hell he didnt even have a sparring partner.

This is probably the weakest excuse for powercreep ever.

>>156040271
The dictionary definition of the word and the way it's used in common vernacular recently are different. You know that.

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Why do Helles and Vados want Goku's dick? it's FUCKING UNFAIR

We Powerlevelfags don't care that 17 is this strong. We care that toei couldn't be arsed to even off-handedly say "oh he trained somewhere" or "gero upgraded him" or anything. Finding a reason for this would be FUN, which is the main argument the other people always throw.

We just need a reason for things to be like they are, if the reason is stupid it's okay, it's a fucking kids show. But we got no explanation on 17, or on Trunks SS Rage, or on Krillin (you could even bullshit your way around this one by having him transform into his newly acquired white ki state).

>Android 17 being stronger than a SSJB isn't what's irritating. It's the laziness behind the writing that is. They just state things like "he's way stronger now!" But that's all we ever get. HOW?!

>If you told me Android 17 had been training with Whis or got some new cybernetic upgrades, it'd seem more plausible, but this is just lazy

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>>156037538

Goku remembers his brother. He even started farming radishes in his honor.

>>156040631
He said he hasn't been sitting around idle in his free time. What exactly do you think that means?

>>156040542
Yeah Dr. Briefs is crazy smart too. The Briefs family is probably single-handedly responsible for U7 not being the lowest ranked.

Capsule technology is cool as hell

>>156040674
That he's been working shooting poachers.

>>156040465
Taking responsibility for other people's mistakes isn't a good deed.

>>156040579
What a fucking miserable human being are you.

Keep spouting your ebin buzzword pal.

>>156040591
Yeah it's a pretty far reach. The only motivation I can come up with for 17 wanting to train that hard is that being absorbed head-first into Cell's dick-tail was so traumatizing that he vowed "never again"

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>these last DBS threads
Omg, can't wait for Master Roshi episode.

>>156040631
fuck it. I have the perfect shounen trope related explanation for 17s powerup

Dr. Gero had a son and he currently remodeled 17 with God Ki after studying it.

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>>156039768
>"I haven't just been sitting around doing nothing

Isnt the whole point of andriois is that they are incapable of "improving"?

Like they are born with a gigantic ass amount of power but that power stays set their whole life?

>It is another Golden Frieza clown fiesta again

>>156040685
Until the gods say otherwise they're bringing down the universe level by being filthy ningens going against creation

>>156040696
Free time, anon. Free time, meaning when he's not working.

>>156040755
>not know that they can get stronger
Newfags like you are the reason why these threads are cancer

>>156040674
>forgotten character comes back with a retarded increase in power
>"I haven't been sitting on my arse doing nothing"

>frowning_pepe.png

>>156040755
Nah, they have unlimited stamina but they're not capped at a certain level because they still have some human parts. Toriyama confirmed they can get stronger by training, or weaker by not training.

>>156040747
Master Roshi couldnt even beat Frieza's goons

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>>156040804

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>>156040343
Goku sure as hell can't.

Reminder than nothing after the original manga is canon.

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>>156040747
I love the idea of Roshi being powerful. Old fuck who actually kicks ass is something you see less and less over the years, the problem is that, even if you completely disregard powers and numbers, Roshi was already unable to even see Piccolo fight Goku. All of this retarded power creep made Goku able to move "at the speed of light" and it was only pushed even beyond with the saiyans.

Roshi has presumably lived for centuries now, thanks to the phoenix, and in all this time he has improved from being a regular human to being as powerful as we see him in the last DB tournament. How would he suddenly improve for that?

>>156040843
I don't think Toei cares about that.

>>156040843
Roshi was taking those scrubs down by the dozen.

>>156040804
This is exactly what both Goku and Vegeta did in the Buu Saga

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Reminder

>>156040755
>>156040800
Part of the confusion might be because 19 and 20 absorbed energy which was contrasted with 17 and 18 having a set amount of energy that never ran out

At least that's the way I remember the dub. People confused that as 17/18 having a static powerlevel when in reality it's just that they "never get tired"

>>156040863
>Goku sure as hell can't.
Are you retarded? He passed a test to enter the U6 tournament.

>>156040863
Yes, he can.

People jumping into conclusions about 17 power when we still don't fucking know what kind of training he performed as we also don't know the limit and potential of an android training since it was mentioned that both androids were modified at a cellular level

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>>156040843
In truth coudn't even beat those.

>>156040916
Only a pedro would save that image

>>156040991
Why did Nappa and Vegeta even keep Raditz around when these were stronger?

>>156040914
>This is exactly what both Goku and Vegeta did in the Buu Saga


Vegeta has a room with enhanced gravity that he barely leaves out of just to constantly train

What could 17 have comparable to the following:

1. Gravity chamber capable of reaching 150x Earth gravity.
2. Instant boost in strength after reaching near death
3. Multiple years spent in the RoSaT.
4. Multiple Gods tutoring your every move
5. Progressively Stronger enemies giving you a goal to work toward
6. A Rival who is a near equal that you couldn't live with yourself if he surpassed you but also serves as a sparring partner to fix weaknesses.


I swear toei didnt even try

>>156040914
>Roshi was taking those scrubs down by the dozen
That didn't make a lot of sense either.

>>156041185
We have no idea how strong the old fuck is now. Nobody's really paid attention to him since Bulma got Raditz's scouter

>>156041097
>I swear toei didnt even try
You're acting like this wasn't always the case.

IT'S ALL OVER BROCCOLI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1hgyUqCneQ

As someone who argued for years that Krillin never got above 1st form Freeza level all I can say is I was wrong.

>>156041227
>CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA

Truly timeless, memorable music.

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This scene made me cum hard when I was a teen. I like the way that they grab unto Piccolo and put their teeth into him while they suck his purple blood juice and drink it all up. He tastes so good that all three of them share a bite of his neck and even fall down with him when he loses consciousness.

>>156041204
Toriyama can easily say "the sacred water made him able to quickly increase in power" or something, and people will believe him.

>>156041227
>yfw Roshi really could have taken Broly if he wasn't "space sick"

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Lol SsjB doesn't stand a fucking chance!

>>156041227
>we got one reading on Roshi when he was relaxing in his house, probably drunk, and not expecting to have his power scanned
>it was still 139

People are underestimating Roshi I tell you

>>156041094
Didin't we debated this in that thread 20 years ago?

>>156040399
>bones
opm was madhouse

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>>156041227
Imagine if he used the Sleepy Boy Technique

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>>156041285
That's fucking hot. This scene made me cum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_Q277C9QCo
Freeza's voice is hot as fuck and I loved seeing Vegeta get the shit kicked out of him. Many nights I would fantasize and replay the scene in my head but replace Vegeta with myself.

>>156041346
>A power level of nearly 14 farmers

Truly outrageous

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>>156041285
>>156041477

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What did she mean by this?

>>156041556
>Cabba having sex with Cauli
>Champa's face pops up over hers
>MORE SAIYANS

>>156041628
Is Champa a powerlevelfag?

Does anybody remember the Super 17 arc airing on TV? Because I swear I had no fucking idea this guy had his own arc until recently. I thought he was just from some movie.

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Guess how fucking strong this fucking guy is by now. It's not like he was sitting idle this entire time!

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>>156041556

>>156041628
Pretty much.

Is Cauli fembrolys name? Was that confirmed?

>>156041655
I don't think so, but he's smart enough to know Saiyans are a pretty safe bet. That dwarf kaioshin is definitely a powerlevelfag. I bet he's posting here right now.

>>156041556
FunSexy knows that cabba belongs to Vados fuck ,Fembroly/Brolette!

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Guys, is it possible to make a more retarded YouTube comment than pic related?

>>156041655
why would he be when he has the strongest being in his universe as a slave

>>156041477
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZJ_P1DhGrw

>>156041690
Top kek

>>156041699
Cabba needs to eat more, I mean look at those twigs.

As of now, who is stronger Goku or superman?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MW9Nrg_kZU

>>156041702
No, but a bunch of people have speculated that's her name and I like it more than fembroly

>>156041718
I hope he shows up with the old U6 team + a lot of saiyans and metal men because fuck it they're hard to ring-out

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>>156041722
How is it even possible to write this seriously?

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>>156041690
Guess how fucking strong this fucking guy is by now. It's not like he was sitting idle this entire time!

>>156041722
Oh, it's certainly possible. YouTube comments are the worst kind of comments period.

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>>156041690
Maybe he's strong enough to get dubs

>>156041763
should draw more vados

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>>156041722
I got you right now senpai.
>pic related

>>156036481
What do you expect? Super is written by a fucking 4 year old.

>>156041763
Absolute decent fap material, pretty neat she does her shit for free. Only doin it on the whim of asks on her tumblr. Wished she colored more.

>>156041763
Shit anatomy.

>>156041808
wut

>>156041786
The next logical step is using Pamput but I'm not going to meme for you

>>156041808
We can laugh at the comment you posted at least, mine can only give headache.

Why are the majority of the spics obsessed with powerlevels?

>>156041904
That's what happen when you watch only Z and skip Dragon Ball

>>156041904
Powerlevels are perfect for appealing to autism, it has allowed the series to grow so much because people use it for their headcanon

>>156041904
Machismo culture of latin america demands having a solid confirmation of who is the strongest

Spics feel free to confirm

>>156041722
>It's you who has abnormally low iq

Did he confuse "you" and me?

>>156040222
>Capturar

Of course, a spic toyocuck shitting on the anime

>>156036481
Still better than Piccolo

>Super Evolved Namek Maximum Bloodfeasting God Fusion Extraminator Killamax is barely stronger than Saiyan 's shit tier entry level transformation

>>156041904
Probably the same reason why some many faggots are willing to bend over and take whatever crap Toei shits out as long as it has the Dragon Ball logo on it.

>>156042035
Go back to sleep Pedro.

>>156040399
I know DBS is getting close to 100 episodes and OPM is done seasonally but there is absolutely no doubt in my mind every single fan would take 12~ episode seasons if the animation for dragon ball fights was that good and long. The power-ups would look immense, every move would be unbelievable, the fights could be titanic, and instead we get the same formula every fight.

Goku holds back, cue 3 different looped punch throws, one suddenly does a move that catches the other off guard, they make a quip or reference the holding back of power, both power up slightly, one uses the mass ki ball spam, it does nothing and the cloud of smoke conceals another attack, cue the 3 looped attacks, take one uniquely animated scene of Goku losing, he goes SSB, more talking about holding back. Add more looped animations and Goku inevitably gaining the upper hand with references to "they could be stronger and so must I".

Name the enemy Goku was facing, you can't, it could be nearly any from super.

>>156041722
>"and at the time beerus was the only [god] of destruction revealed other than champa."

What did he mean by this?

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So how big of a dosage is Gohan going to get from the doc?

>>156042075
Did I hit a nerve?