Shingeki no Kyojin

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Annie is love
Annie is life
I just want Annie to smile again
Annie a miracle of the universe
Annie might've done some things wrong, but she's still a beautiful person inside and out

YH is cute and canon.

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So is this considered fanservice?

>>155848987
Reiner will die in style.
He will correct his ways to beat Zeke and become the king (fuck Historia) as he always wanted.

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Soon

>>155848987
Maybe

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>mfw overpowered ackershits are now rendered irrelevant by artillery, machine guns, and aircraft

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Endgame right here, brothers.

>>155848987
He either gets eaten by one of the soldiers or dies by Eren's hand, pick your poison.

>>155848987
Nope, he has shifter cancer and will become warrior poop soon, since he only has a year or most likely just a few more months left.

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Armin a cute.

>there won't be any beach episode this season

>>155848987
Even if he does, his lifespan is probably coming to a close soon.

>>155848987
Gabi will heal him

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>Reminder manlet let Erwin die because he wasn't fighting for humanity.

>>155850007
wait for an asspull

>>155850059
Then he would be even more badly written than Armong. He is already pretty close anyway.

Reminder that you shouldn't speedread your mangoes or you won't understand that Levi just wanted Erwin to rest.

>>155849784
>implying isayama won't find a way to shove them in action scens

>>155850095
>Reminder you're deluded and can't read for shit and still can't explain pic related >>155850038

>>155850095
read the prequel manga; he had a grudge for the death of his friends

>>155849031
I'm so happy.

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>>155850095
>Levi just wanted Erwin to rest.

>>155850168
Read the vn, Manlet knew it was his own responsability.

>>155849560
No.

>>155850168
Wtf are you saying, at the end he says he will follow him and never regret that decision.

>>155850157
It gets explained the very next page, just FUCKING READ IT.

Manlet is trash and worst shingeki.

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>>155848987
Of course!
Endgame right here, brothers.
Love in times of titans

>>155848987
He looks good with a beard.

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LH is endgame.

>>155850293
No Gabble Gabble for you, delusional shipper.

The thought that Annie may have died without ever returning home is depressing. Almost as bad as Ymir dying without reuniting with Historia.

>>155850272
revenge is a dish best served spoiled

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AM a cute.

Posting this again because people really need to be spoonfed.
>When Erwin found out that Ragako Village's inhabitants were turned into Titans, he smiled, no? To Erwin, he reached a certain understanding, and the smile it's him expressing, "It's just as I always thought". But to Levi, they had shared a promise to "save humanity together", so his first thought is, "This guy's words... why are they different from before?
>-That must've been a shock. Then did Levi accept Erwin's true intentions?
>During volume 13 was likely in the mindset of "He hid this so well before..." and may have given up analizing it deeper... prior to this, he never actually recognized Erwin's true nature, and thought Erwin's existence exceeded his own. And even though Levi still didn't understand things fully after discovering how Erwin had childlike motivations, he leaned towards the attitude of, "Alright then, let me help you anyway" rather than distrusting Erwin.

Also
>Erwin is not the kind of person who prioritizes his own dream
Said by Isayama himself.

>>155850335
but hange is a man

>>155850339
They look great as a platonic father/daughter or older brother/younger sister relationahip

>>155850439
Post the whole fucking thing you fatso
> But in volume 18, while facing an Erwin who wanted to command the mission no matter what - and could not be persuaded otherwise - Levi had to become a little angry. His line of “I’ll trust your judgment, then” actually also contains a tinge of “If anything happens, you will have to take responsibility.” A bit after that, Levi actually used some force to halt Eren and Jean’s argument - that was his way of releasing pent-up indignation upon them instead (Laughs).

>Levi accidentally discovered Erwin’s true intentions, and also endured the parting from Kenny. At this time, he no doubt had some sense of loss. We could say that Levi’s squad remedied any emptiness within his heart…that’s why in volume 17, when Historia punches him, Levi was able to say something like, “You’ve worked hard.” and “You have done well throughout this time.” - I guess that’s his way of expressing “Thank you".

> Erwin looks like he’s fighting for humanity—actually he’s chasing his own dream. You have drawn those two sides of him.


>After knowing that Erwin is moving for his own dream, Levi’s trust toward Erwin started to change bit by bit. The decision made by Erwin as the commander—is it for the future of humanity or for the fulfillment of his own dream? In Levi’s mind now, that question must always be lingering.

>Despite that, Levi told Erwin his frank opinion, but he never argued with Erwin’s decision. However, in the midst of the battle when the extreme decision is enforced, if it is not for the sake of humanity…

>>155850575
>Levi found out about Erwin’s real intention.

>When he saw Erwin’s strange smiling face, Levi started to realize Erwin’s real intention. This is the time where the up until now trust relationship started to change. (Volume 13, Chapter 51)

>Entrusted with the serum, and then toward Erwin, who smashed his way through his dream…?

>Erwin entrusted Levi with taking care of the serum and its usage decision. Erwin said that he is a wounded soldier. What kind of decision will Levi make? (Volume 17, Chapter 70)

It's all about their trust changing, Levi beind discouraged because Erwin isn't fighting for humanity, and you being too deluded to see it. But it's okay, Erwin is dead and the manga will keep proving my point.

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Marley will turn up with 3DMG expecting to surprise the Eldians only to get BTFO by the superior Anti-personnel gear.

>>155850647
I've been predicting this since we first found out the Marley were a thing. Get hyped anon.

>>155850038
Not like it mattered in the end since they've been fighting the rest of humanity all along, thus making that excuse irrelevant.

>>155850647
They will taste the glorious Eldian steel

>>155850095
Levi just did what Isayama asked from him since he's a true Armongfag.

>>155850575
>>155850625
I posted the important part, the trust changed, but it didn't dissapear as you seem to think it did.

>>155850762
FOLDED OVER THREE ___CUPS

>>155850625
Notice how he never mentions
>Manlet realized Erwin was suffering
Oh no, it's all about Erwin being a selfish prick and Manlet not giving too much thought to it because Erwin still managed to benefit humanity. That's until Manlet realized Erwin wouldn't keep going forward, and his will died in in his dream, which was the basement.
Reminder Manlet chose Armin for humanity, and let Erwin die for the same reason.
Reminder fujos simply cannot cope.

>>155849784
And who do you think are going to be the best pilot, shooter, etc. then?

>>155850870
Reminder that Armin surviving to receive the serum was complete bs and Erwin would've been the only choice in the end if Isayama wasn't a huge cocksucking Armongfag

>>155850809
Oh you fucking idiot. So for you, change doesn't mean shit. Understand this, fujo. Manlet didn't trust Erwin as blindly as he once did. That's why he let him die, he was following a scam and deepd down he knew it, hence he chose Armin and let Erwin die because their intentions are different, and Armin's goal is exactly what manlet wants.

>>155851005
>Armin's goal is exactly what manlet wants.
is he after eren's d. too?

>>155851065
Fuck off fujoshit.

>>155850902
There's no way the Eldian's technology could be advanced enough to contend with Marley in only 4 years

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>>155851065
No, he's after freedom.

>>155850902
Yeah, I'm sure they'll be great at using that tech they've never seen or have access to.

>>155851184
Why is Hange such a good wife?

>>155851267
Hanga is a husband not a wife

>>155849031
anon, ymir is dead.

>>155851339
Then manlet is the wife? that explains why he's so homely.

>>155850870
>realized Erwin wouldn't keep going forward
Never stated.

>>155851005
Change means change, not dissapereance, learn you meanings.
Manlet trusted Erwin, albeit in a different manner, until the end, that's why Eren's teeth flung away from his mouth.
And Armin's goal is go touring, nothing else, now that he has seen the sea, he will abandon the SL and go around the world.

>>155851357
Still cute and canon.

>>155851357
Ymir is alive and will soon reunite with her lover.

>>155851474
Calm down, Hisu.

>>155851370
Armin will never do that. Not after the Commander died, he respected and admired Erwin a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7114jxqqn0k

Am I overthinking how damn perfectly the audio syncs up for the transformation and such? The TTGL audio covers the lightning, the lightning dissipating, the footsteps, the building falling and so much shit, and it was just a random zero effort one attempt guess of a video.

>>155851370
>Never stated.
Kenny stated it you idiot, and that's what manlet followed.

>Change means change, not dissapereance, learn you meanings.
His trust didn't dissapear completely, but he wasn't as devoted as he once was because he knew Erwin wasn't doing it for what he initally thought you fucking dumbass.
>Manlet trusted Erwin, albeit in a different manner
He followed Erwin only because his decision usually brought the best result, but if he had to chose between that gambling guy whose resultion is weak and done for and Armin whose dream is lively and truly selfless, then he'll go for the latter, and that's exactly what he did.
>until the end,
No, that's why he let him die.
>now that he has seen the sea, he will abandon the SL and go around the world.
Armin's dream is freedom you retard. Going to such places means going beyond the walls, which is what manlet also wants
>>155851184
Erwin wanted nothing to do with that.

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>>155849015
Annie did nothing wrong

>>155851524
>Armin will never do that.
I'm just using the same logic as those who claim that Erwin would have lost all his will to fight once he got to the basement.

>>155851573
>Kenny stated it
Kenny stated that people needed something to keep one going through life and that, sometimes, that thing consummed you. Nothing else.

>His trust didn't dissapear
That's all that relevant in the paragraph you wrote.

>but if he had to chose between that gambling guy whose resultion is weak and done for and Armin whose dream is lively and truly selfless, then he'll go for the latter,
This is your theory, not what happened, get that through your skull.

>Levi's dream is freedom
Armin just want to see the world. Also knowing the truth of the world means freedom too.

>>155851857
Noone cares.

>>155851890
>I'm just using the same logic as those who claim that Erwin would have lost all his will to fight once he got to the basement.
Ok. I agree with you but I think Armin will never do that.

>>155851890
>Kenny stated that people needed something to keep one going through life and that, sometimes, that thing consummed you. Nothing else.
>needed something to keep one going through life

You said it yourself you dumb fujo, Erwin couldn't keep going. It's all about dreams, and Erwin's wasn't going to take them fucking anywhere after they reached the basement.

>This is your theory, not what happened, get that through your skull.
It's exactly what happened. Hence, Levi gave the no regrets speech to Armin. If he only did it for Erwin's sake, he shouldn't have said such a thing to Armin because he wasn't doing it for him in the first place, but as you know, that wasn't the case.

>Armin just want to see the world. Also knowing the truth of the world means freedom too.
No, since Erwin didn't want to continue after that. He had no goals after finding out the truth, so manlet let him die. Armin on the other hand could always picture himself reaching lands beyond the walls.

Man, people like you make me despise Erwin's character and his fans. I'm so glad he is dead, no more than just a few bones left and all because Manlet wanted it that way.

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>>155849015
She's for loving until the end of time.

>>155852091
Neither do I, hence why I used the comparison.

why is H not Historia?

>>155848987
What do you mean? He already died at the end of the last chapter

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>>155852120
Dolls are freaky.
You're freaky.
Neck yourself.
OUT.

>people unironically think that a cannon shell to the chest killed Reiner "Asspull" Braun

>>155852114
You make the biggest and retarded leaps in logic.
>Kenny says we all need something to keep moving
>That dream sometimes becomes an unhealthy obsession
>that means that once you get your dream you become retarded and useless all of a sudden, no matter how functioning you were before.
Goddamit, Armin must be retarded now that he reached the ocean then.

>Levi gave the no regrets speech to Armin.
That his way of living, he doesn't want to regret putting Erwin to rest and letting Armin live. And Levi isn't insentive, he knows Armin is going through a lot, he's just blunt with the truth when he still says that Erwin was the better choice.

> didn't want to continue after that.
Really, where the fuck is this stated? Erwin, first, just says that when he pospones planning anything until he gets to the basement, then, when he knows he has to die to take down the beast titan, that he only wanted to see what was in it. He already knows he has to die.

And your hate is easily given if you just needs someone to disagree with you becaucae you're truly mistaken and refuse to read what you have in front of you.
Pity.

>>155852527
Retards gonna retard. Armin is near.

>>155852527
he thought they would aim for the head so he moved his brain to his chest bam!

>>155852502
Wow, rude

>>155852712
I mean it, you really should just fuck off.

>>155852527
It did though. Just take a look at the final panel and how everybody was freaked out by him gowing down. Surely they aren't thinking "oh he can regenerate how could we forget haha"

>>155852608
>Goddamit, Armin must be retarded now that he reached the ocean then.

You're a fucking idiot. Armin's goal is not the ocean, but the exterior, freedom itself. He thrives for that, Erwin on the other hand only ever lived so he could see that basement.

>That his way of living, he doesn't want to regret putting Erwin to rest and letting Armin live.
What does Armin have to do with anything? Why is Armin's job to not let anyone regret this? didn't manlet do it for Erwin's sake and exclusively for that?
>Erwin was the better choice.
And then he goes and says Armin's got something other lacks. That's his dreams. Seriously, didn't you fucking read chapter 72?

>He already knows he has to die.
You fucking retard, Erwin says "There were many times where I thought dead would be easier" he was suicidal and thought about death many times, but his desire to see the basement kept him moving forward and only that. What was going to happen to him after that? as Kenny put it, he wouldn't keep going you retard.

>and refuse to read what you have in front of you.
That's you, now explain with your own fucking words this scene >>155850038

>>155852732
this is /a/ we should act kind to each other not like savages

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>>155852694
>normie humour

>>155852798
read the manga it is explained

>>155852759
>The Armored Titan
>What you are trained to strive for
>The power you have been dreaming of possessing

>knocked down by a cannon

Obviously people would be shocked. He literally could not have died from it though.

>>155852787
Ask me if I care. There's literally zero space for someone like you anywhere. Go diddle your doll.

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Martian Roaches vs Titans
who wins?

>>155852949
Terraform a shit

>>155852949
Titans barely won against the Middle East, the Roaches will handle this

Is there a list of all the Jewish/WW1 parallels in the manga so far?

>>155852778
You're a fucking idiot. Erwin's goal is not the basement, but proving his father right, so he can forgive himself. He thrives for that.

>What does Armin have to do with anything?
He is the one that is alive.

>He was suicidal
Yet he kept going, I'm not saying he wasn't depressed as fuck, just that he suddenly wouldn't become a bumbling retard. Retard.

>This scene
What is there to fucking explain. Are you such an idiot you need every panel spelled out for you? Ok
Levi is making sure what are Erwin's priorities, Erwin says "my own", manlet then procceds to become frustrated but go along with it because Erwin is always the safe bet, and that still doesn't contradict anything I said before. Need me to chew you food for you too?

>>155852949
The Roaches steal Eldian DNA and become titans themselves

Armin and the manlet are worst shingekis.

>>155853613
>Erwin's goal is not the basement, but proving his father right, so he can forgive himself
And proving his father right is the only thing that keeps him going your fucking retard. No more goals whatsoever, the crushing guilt of sending many to die for his selfish cause alrady took a toll on him.

>He is the one that is alive.
But according to your retarded ass logic, he only got the serum because Levi prioritized Erwin's live. So why should manlet try to let him know it's his work not to let anyone regret this? why would manlet regret letting Erwin rest in peace? fucking KEK.

>Yet he kept going,
Stupid fuckin cunt. He kept going because the basement was still there. After that there was no reason for him to keep going.

>Erwin is always the safe bet,
Exactly why manlet still followed him until that point. However, in the midst of the battle when the extreme decision is enforced, if it is not for the sake of humanity…

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>>155853784
Also, after having my food chewed I'd like you to explain pic related. Why was it necessary from a narrative standpoint if everything manlet ever wanted was to ensure Erwin's peaceful rest.

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>this fucking chapter

>>155852787
Look, it's you.
>>155853678

>>155853784
>the crushing guilt of sending many to die for his selfish cause alrady took a toll on him.
Noone is saying the contrary, but by your logic everyone who is a depressed but functioning adult has the need to crawl in a hole once they achieve what they were fighting for, wtf.
Also if manlet thought this, he didn't need to remind Armin how better Erwin was as a choice.

>He only prioritized Erwin's rest
Yes
>His work to not let anyone regret this?
God you are dense. Eren and Mikasa went bonkers over him and Levi injected him, it's Armin's work to make that decision count. Is unjust and not very nice and he also puts unnecessary pressure on him, but it is what it is.
Manlet will not regret his decision, that his motto. Seriously, you can't get this?

>No reason to keep going
Dude, really.
I ask you this question, in your opinion, what would have been Erwin's actions once he reached the basement info in the case he got injected?

>Not for the sake of humanity...
Ah, yes. That editor catchphrase that Isayama didn't say himself that you want to parade so much and is only there to create tension. Yes, very valid point.
Read this again, is an actual interview >>155850439

>>155853901
To compare the cheerfulness of one dream with the selfdestructiveness of the other.
Need anything regurgitated still?

I havent followed this in a few months.
Have they reached the basement?

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God, I hope Eren has long, flowing hair after the timeskip. He'd be the perfect trap.

>>155854624
Yes, we WWI-II now.

>>155854494

>noone is saying the contrary, but by your logic everyone who is a depressed but functioning adult has the need to crawl in a hole once they achieve what they were fighting for,

Not everyone is a selfish cunt who send hundreds of people to die for his sake, nor is everyone feeling the weight of their sins on their back. Erwin was done for.

>God you are dense. Eren and Mikasa went bonkers over him and Levi injected him, it's Armin's work to make that decision coun
t
It isn't you fucking idiot, because according to you, manlet only worried about Erwin's life and Armin living is a result of manlet's choice. So why should he make such decision count? manlet wasn't doing it for him, except he actually was. Because he chose Armin over Erwin.

>>155854617
Ah, and how is that he compared them? according to Kenny's speech and what people are drunk on, how is that they can't keep going. Everything Manlet does is for humanity's sake, and Erwin, I repeat, wasn't going to lead them anywhere. That's why it was necessary, to compare who's really fighting for humanity. Isayama mentioned this over and over again, finding out about Erwin's true intentions that had nothing to do with humanity messed him up.
Why do you think that is you retarded faggot?

>I ask you this question, in your opinion, what would have been Erwin's actions once he reached the basement info in the case he got injected?
Dude all he ever wanted was to reach the basement. What would he do afterwards? do what he thought so often about, try to die. You think he can still go around weighing the death of innocents for his own sake? think again idiot.

This is also an actual interview. Isayama won't stop mentioning Levi's change of trust. It became dimmer and dimmer, until he finally let Erwin die.
>>155850575
And boy did I enjoy it.

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>>155854664
>people that actually like traps

Is Reiner a good guy now? I don't want him to die, please.

>>155854878
>kink shaming

>>155848987

He has titan cancer so he is already dead one way or another. I do hope he learns the truth about Marley first so he can die in regret.

He will be back through titan memory though which, it would seems, is not diachronical.

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>>155854994
He's a soldier for the enemy still, and they're busy planning who they will choose to eat him in a few years.

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>>155855015
Sorry! I'm just bein' an arse hole. Traps are fucking hot!

>>155854664
Armin already has that role. It was even a plot point.

>>155854994
He always was a good guy.

>>155855237
Yes, but Armin is an ugly pig. Eren would make a far superior one.

>>155854873
>Erwin was done for.
Just because you say so? I don't think so.

>So why should he make such decision count?
My statement on your denseness stands still.
Mostly because Mikasa and Eren, but yes for himself too because he was the one who injected him and will not regret it, so Armin should make his worth count and don't make humanity regret the sacrifice of Erwin. God, really, I don't know how to make this idea enter you thicc potato of a brain.

>Everything Manlet does is for humanity's sake
Letting Erwin die wasn't.

>wasn't going to lead them anywhere
That's like your opinion, man.

> Isayama mentioned this over and over again
Ah, yes, indeed he did.
>Erwin is not the type to prioritize his own dream. In order to carry out his responsibility, Erwin is one who will abandon his ambitions at the crucial moment and make the most ideal choice. His role is quite similar to Armin’s - Armin is also resolutely, vividly pursuing his dream.

>What would he do afterwards?
We'll never know, you retard, it's all speculation. You think he chooses to die in a ditch, I think he will keep on fighting, but in the end, we have proof of neither, even though all points to keep fighting.

>It became dimmer and dimmer
Wrong. How is that difficult to undestand that change =/= disappearance?

>>155855237
Kill yourself.

>>155855294
Armin is freaking cute.

>>155855182
That's the dream right there

>>155855385
>who injected him and will not regret it,
But he's telling Armin it depends on him to not let anyone regret it you stupid fucking aspie.

>Letting Erwin die wasn't.
>He literally let die the man who wasn't fighting for humanity die.
>Somehow, Manlet isn't helping humanity by doing it.
WEW
this reasoning is really something else.

>That's like your opinion, man.
That's what he meant by "can't keep going". Erwin couldn't keep going you big idiot.

>Ah, yes, indeed he did.
>is role is quite similar to Armin’s - Armin is also resolutely, vividly pursuing his dream.
also
>I: If Erwin’s perspective of the world or the era is different, I think he is a con man who will instigate people for his own aim, be it good or bad.

>We'll never know, you retard, it's all speculation. You think he chooses to die in a ditch, I think he will keep on fighting, but in the end, we have proof of neither, even though all points to keep fighting.
Oh, so that's why he mentioned he thought death would be much easier, right? fuck off.

>How is that difficult to undestand that change =/= disappearance?
How is so difficult to know that change = not the same anymore. It changed little by little, so we know it was gradual, everytime manlet lost more and more trust toward Erwin. Deep bond my ass. Until there was almost nothing, just manlet holding onto someone's will because it could bring better results, but then he had to make a choice between that and someone with actual desire to help humanity. It wasn't a tough choice you retard.

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Hi, i want to discuss the anime, could you please not post manga spoilers (you can use spoilers if you HAVE to talk about that)

thanks

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>>155855237

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>>155855837
Tapped.
Draw a 2 cards or play a 1/1 monster.

>>155855837
Fuck off. Go if you don't like.

>>155855628
Are you baiting? I would be concerned for you if that wasn't the case, noone can be this much of an illiterate retard.

Ugh.

>"Erwin is the better choice" - Stated several times
>"But I choose Erwin to die, so Armin lives"
>"Eren and Mikasa nearly killed for him because, for them, he is better that fresh air"
>"I let the man who was clearly the best option die because he is in need to be out of all this"
>"The kid who lives better live up to the hype"
Not that complicated.

>I: If Erwin’s perspective of the world or the era is different, I think he is a con man who will instigate people for his own aim, be it good or bad.
Yes and
>His slip of the tongue caused the death of his father, but he had conjectures regarding this development. Even though he was motivated by his own ambitions, he unconsciously rose to the top position in the Survey Corps and could deliver endless orders to his subordinates. In his heart, the part asking “What am I doing this for?” actually leads to contradictions. So when he says to those under him, “This is for the sake of humanity!” - he actually feels that he might be lying. He has experienced much frustration and inner struggle this entire time.
Is this news for you or what?

>Oh, so that's why he mentioned he thought death would be much easier, right?
Oh, and then I'm supposed to think that he offs himself once he get to know everything? Just because he's depressed? Don't project so much.

>Deep bond my ass. Until there was almost nothing, just manlet holding onto someone's will because it could bring better results, but then he had to make a choice between that and someone with actual desire to help humanity.
That's like your opinion, man.

>>155856455
>>"I let the man who was clearly the best option die because he is in need to be out of all this"
You say that, yet
>Oh, and then I'm supposed to think that he offs himself once he get to know everything? Just because he's depressed? Don't project so much.

It's really funny that you'd mention that, because manlet knew exactly what Erwin wanted, how much he sacrificed to reach the basement, and how fulfilled it would've made him. But he denied it Erwin the chance to reach his dreams in the end so Armin could live. Erwin didn't need to be out of all this, but from manlet's perspective that's exactly what was needed since Erwin isn't what humanity needs. And everything Manlet does is for humanity.

>Not that complicated.
Then why can't you understand only manlet knew about Erwin's true intentions and the fact he wasn't fighting for humanity made manlet frustrated towards Erwin? why can't you understand Isayama's been building this plot since chapter 51 and in the end, when the option between a broken man with no vision and a boy who dreams go beyond the walls had to be taken, he finally let the former die? Not because it was practical or objectively right, but because he knew Erwin wasn't needed in the long run. And nine months later it shows.

>Is this news for you or what?
No, but it seems to be news for you that Erwin indeed fooled everyone so he could achieve his goal. He says this himself. Isayama just shed some more light onto that.

>That's like your opinion, man.
That's exactly what happened.

>>155856767
Erwin wants to see what is in the basement, humanity needs to see what is in the basement, that doesn't mean it's good for him to do it and keep shouldering humanity's hopes because, so far, it's been destroying him having to be responsible of so much death.
Manlet finally realizes this, one, with Flocke demon speech, and cements it with two, Erwin's last words.
Those are the begining and the end of manlet's change of heart.
If Erwin got to the basement, he wouldn't have become even more depressed or even suicide, all the deaths of his comrades led to that discovery and be sure he wouldn't waste their sacrifice, because he never did before, even if for the wrong reasons.
Anything else are elucubrations of contrarian retards.

>That's exactly what happened
In you opinion.

>>155857408
You're so wrong on your reading of that chapter. It was Eren's talk about dream, then the memories of Kenny's speech the thing that made manlet change his mind, not Flocke, not Erwin's dream destroying him.
It was all about who's got what it's needed to be humanity's symbol, and manlet knew Erwin wasn't because he wasn't fighting for the greater good, after the basement Erwin would have nothing to fight for. Again, Isayama's been building this fucking plot since chapter 51 but you're too deluded to properly read into that.

>In you opinion.
No, and the manga will only keep supporting my take on it.

>>155857632
You're lucky that right now I can't, because I would've put a big collage explaining Isayama's narrative 101 crash course.
How can anyone have that poor reading comprehension of fucking chinese drawings is beyond me.

>Humanity's symbol
Where, where is stated in the whole manga the need for a symbol other than Eren himself. Where.
The one who talks about symbols is Hange, and she means Erwin.
Wtf

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>>155857632
>humanity's symbol
>Anybody other than Eren.

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>>155857923
>How can anyone have that poor reading comprehension of fucking chinese drawings is beyond me.
You're one to speak if you can't fucking understand that there's a reason why Isayama made manlet trust towards Erwin waver after finding out his true fucking intentions. It's fucking easy
>He thinks he does it for humanity
>Finds out he doesn't
>He lets the kid who's doing it for humanity live
There you fucking go, you're welcome.

Look at this page for fuck's sake.
>Everyone is a slave to something, even him
next page shows you the root of Erwin's dream, childish and egocentric. Then and only then manlet resolves to let him die. If you think the fact he wasn't fighting for humanity had nothing to do with it then you're a big fucking retard.

>>155858050
Hange mentions it while holding Mikasa. Erwin's supossed to be their symbol of hope. Then that role is passed down onto Armin.

>>155858175
>He thinks he does it for humanity
>Finds out he does it for a personal dream
>"he leaned towards the attitude of, "Alright then, let me help you anyway" rather than distrusting Erwin."
>Realizes that, in reality, Erwin's own dream is destroying him
>Let's him die
>He lets the kid who has his whole life ahead live
Wew, it's like you skipped several chapters there buddy, and several reading classes too.

>next page shows you the root of Erwin's dream, childish and egocentric. Then and only then manlet resolves to let him die
Well, at least you got this part right, congratulations.

>Then that role is passed down onto Armin.
Armin is the only who says this, and is inmediatly rebuked by Levi himself. It's like you only read the parts that are convenient to your own version of the story.

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>>155858544
>Realizes that, in reality, Erwin's own dream is destroying him
This comes directly from your ass and it simply doesn't fit because Levi wouldn't have fought for Erwin's survival in the first place if this were the case, but he kept going for Erwin despite having heard Flock's speech. He still believed Erwin was what humanity needed, he says so himself when Eren is facing him. And then, after pondering about dreams and goals (thanks to Eren), he deemed Armin's worthier than Erwin's because one is selfish and the other isn't. One is for himself and the other is for humanity.
It might've not been the objective best choice, but for manlet and his reasoning it was.

>It's like you only read the parts that are convenient to your own version of the story.
Hange basically confirms it too you deluded fuck.

What the fuck is the author even doing with this manga anymore? What happened to eren and that whole cast?

>>155858814
Got tired of writing about LAME and needed a break. Unfortunately since they have so many fans he'll return to them soon

>>155858761
>Levi wouldn't have fought for Erwin's survival in the first place if this were the case, but he kept going for Erwin despite having heard Flock's speech.
The key here is that Flocke started it, and gradually, with the help of flashbacks, changed his decision cementing it with Erwin's last words.
What do you make then of Levi's reasoning to Flocke of "we ought to let him rest"? In your opinion was Levi lying or what?

And Hange is referring on how she is the de facto succesor, and Armin is alive because Erwin is dead, so they share some connection, not
>Hurr durr Armin, you are the new Erwin nao

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>>155859069
>In your opinion was Levi lying or what?
Of course he was. Because his true reasoning, which was measuring their dreams, never involved Flocke's stupid demon speech. I read it as manlet trying to explain to Flocke, who's a newbie who has no idea what's going on, a valid reason using the same argument Flocke applied though that's not really why he did it and that could be seen in chapter 84. That's also why Flocke is still so butthurt.

>And Hange is referring on how she is the de facto succesor, and Armin is alive because Erwin is dead, so they share some connection, not
Nope.
>You've been enthrusted with Erwin's life and the power of the titan, no matter what anyone says, that's who you are now.

>>155859221
>Of course he was. Because his true reasoning, which was measuring their dreams, never involved Flocke's stupid demon speech
And this is why you have no idea of narrative and characterization. Go read some books.

>You've been enthrusted with Erwin's life
Because he was chosen in his instead, you are not supposed to take literally.
God.

>>155859581
>And this is why you have no idea of narrative and characterization. Go read some books.
No, you read the 6 pages where Isayama dew Levi's train of thought, no Flocke anywhere, no mention of suffering, no devil shit. Only Kenny's words and two dreams, one that is selfish and one that is selfless. One that is about to end, and one that just beginning.
You not only need to read some books yourself, you also need to go trough primary school again. Maybe a psychiatrist as well to treat that delusion.

>Because he was chosen in his instead, you are not supposed to take literally.
What the fuck do you think Hange meant when she said "I guess I'm in a similar position" or why do you think nobody corrected Armin when he said he was supossed to be Erwin's replacement? manlet felt sorry for placing that responsability on Armin, that's why he told him not to compare to Erwin, but actually trust his own "strenght" and make nobody regret that in the process in his own rude way. Yes, that implies that manlet's choice wasn't something he did out of volition for Erwin's sake, since Armin's the one who's responsible to make manlet's choice meaningful and not the grumpy gremlin himself. Get this trough your thick fucking skull, if it was about Erwin and only Erwin there would absolutely no shit to regret because Manlet is doing it for his friend, not for humanity, right? but that's clearly isn't the case you dumb cunt.

>>155848987
Who cares? SnK is shit

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>TFW the tip is in

>>155860007
Levi never cared about the content of the dreams, but how they affected the bearer, hence Kenny's speech about being a slave to them.
Flocke was just a trigger.
Seriously, you are complicating this way more than it really is without any base.

>why do you think nobody corrected Armin when he said he was supossed to be Erwin's replacement
Wat. Are we reading the same story?

>no shit to regret because Manlet is doing it for his friend, not for humanity, right?
No, manlet doesn't want to regret his decision, so he tells Armin to man the fuck up. Just that.
Also, of course there are things to regret if the coconut jobbers up and ends being subpar expectations.
He wants Erwin to rest, but hopes humanity isn't fucked because of his decision.

Look, I understand you may not like the characters or the fanbase, but pretending to be retarded and convoluting the story just to prove how much you hate them is just too much. Not healthy, no no.

>>155860664
>but how they affected the bearer
That's a stupid fucking interpretation. Kenny never says anything about how dreams affected the people he's encountered, but how they made them keep going. Seriously, what a braindead retard you are.

.
>Also, of course there are things to regret if the coconut jobbers up and ends being subpar expectations.

See? you're contradicting yourself. According to your retarded ass logic, manlet did this exclusively for Erwin's sake, rest of the world be damned. So why should he regret this decision? According to your stupid ass, he chose Erwin over humanity so this
>but hopes humanity isn't fucked because of his decision.
Doesn't make an ounce of sense, It's one thing or the other, manlet obviously chose humanity you retard.

>Not healthy, no no.
I'll tell you what isn't healthy, not noticing the subplot and reading too much into shit that's completely unrelated to the final choice.
Humanity is first, that's why Erwin had to go.