>characters who have great chemistry >an actual plot that

phantom world is not as bad as the "OMG WORST SHOW EVER" meme but it is pretty fucking dull

>>155790171
The same could be said about SAO. A few rights don't justify all the other wrongs.

>>155790171
The novels sound way more interesting

>>155790171
I mean, I could say exactly the same greentext for Urara and there is still some retards saying K-On! is better, so.

>>155790171
Why does Phantom Sales have a dedicated falseflagger making bait threads everyday but Kyoukai no Kanata didn't?
Both were equally terrible and panned.

>>155790662
Don't the novels turn into some grimdark apocalypse bullshit after the first novel?

>>155791271
KnK isn't as hated as PW. Remember every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

>>155791103
K-On is better, though.

literal niwaka anime

>>155790662

When the show was airing LNfags said the show did much to improve the shitty source material, where Haru was a gigantic perv instead of just a turbonerd and Mai and Koito were even more bitchier.

Why do ideas about shitposting organisations and irc channels get so much traction here? You guys are crazier than anti-vaccine people

>>155790171
It's like you didn't watch the show

I don't know how anyone can hate this. There isn't enough there to hate.

>>155791378
>you guys
Outsider detected.

When you are the most popular studio by a wide margin, it's going to attract some contrarians.

>>155791351
So phantom world was a trainwreck in all fronts.

>>155791560
Correct. But people would defend the Spanish Flue of all things if it was done by KyoAni

>>155791408
There's the absurdly terrible writing

>>155791500
>most popular studio
Don't make me laugh.

>>155791351
>>155791631
Stop talking about things you vaguely remember. He said Haruhiko was funnier as a pervert since some hilarious scenes came out of it. He also praised Koito and said she was his favorite girl due to her bitchiness. A big change the anime made is the Mai Koito interactions.

>>155791652
There was barely anything wrong with the writing though.
I say barely but I can't even think of anything.

>>155791722
Proof you didn't watch the series.

I've only tried watching the OVA.
It started with the MC complaining about going to the beach, so some guy said to him: "But we'll see the girls in swimsuits!" and he literally answered: "WTF I love the beach now"
It was probably the worst exchange I've ever witnessed in my life, is the writing all as abysmal as this?

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>>155791747
It was full of brilliant writing.

>>155791747
I watched it when it aired and I rewatched a couple episodes since then, the period drama play and the episode where Ruru wished to be a human because those were my favorite episodes.

I saw nothing "absurdly terrible" about the writing in any of them.

>>155791972
See >>155791930

>>155791930
KyoAni will never top this

>>155792023
What's so bad about it? Fanservice? Are you a tumblr landwhale?

>>155791930
The limbo scene was a stroke of genius

>>155792023
But those are the few things that were good.

>>155791293
It kinda did, but turn out it's from AU.
Yet the original Haru still cross over that AU anyway.

>>155791972
Don't bother. Every single thread, there's this bunch of idiots claiming all sort of things are wrong with the writing but not one of them ever actually says what is wrong with it. It's just shitposters and idiots that fell for the shitposting. Don't bother replying to anyone that gives "it's bad writing" as their only argument and never try to actually justify their claim.

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Can't we just agree that it's a mixed bag and some people like it and some people don't? It's not like Phantom World is normiebait heralded like the next Eva like AoT or SAO.

>>155791747
Phantom World was picking apart terrible writing and showing the audience why it doesn't work. Phantom World is genius and the greatest deconstructive work of the decade.

^ false flagger

PW was good, but for a kyoanus show it didn't attracted much attention and thus shitposting was had.

Kyoani is that much well regarded

>>155790171
>plot
what motherfucking plot

>>155790171
>an actual plot that moves forward each episode with flawless execution

Nigga what show were you watching

At least it has a pretty good OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIsCJl8iChk

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>>155791930
Reina and Ruru's episode is literally perfect

>>155792479
>>155792573
>too stupid to follow PW plot

Are you two serious? It was straightforward government experiments gone wrong.

>>155792298
>the greatest deconstructive work
When will this meme ever die?

>>155790171
stop lying

>>155792595
I didn't like it much at first, this was the first male singer opening that Kyoani has had in years, if ever.

>>155792796
Not a meme. Phantom World is a complex work that will be remembered 20 years from now.

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Phantomfags and Kyoanus shills on suicide watch as always. The anime was received badly. It did not even sell 3000 copies in Japan, which is bad even for KyoAni standards. It even scored a mediocre score on motherfucking MAL, the site where shills and plebs throw 10s and 9s around like autists. You can whine as much as you want, but this show won't get any better because of it. It's shit and so is your taste.

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Remember that Phantom World is not a harem show and doesn't have any fanservice. Kyoani is pure studio and their shows are for smart people.

>>155793046
>my thoughts are completely dictated by other people
Real proud of you.

>>155793199
Not him but everyone knew that PW will be pretty meh based on LN summary. But Kyoani somehow managed to make ir even worse with their "improvement" by cutting out few redeeming qualities of a novel.

>>155793331
You read it? What redeeming qualities?

>>155793331
So you're the guy that pretends to get outraged at Kyoani changing the source when you never read it yourself

>>155793392
Koito lives with MC as his girlfriend and his father approves
Mai is not a cunt who can only punch him
MC's best friend is relevant ad even has a girlfriend (also double date)

>>155793540
Mai actually had the best bonding moment with him when he got shrunk into a shota.

>>155793540
How are those redeeming qualities? What makes them so?

You just had to say it, didn't you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPlay7B9AFQ

>>155793540
That is what you need out of a story?

>>155793540
Did you read it?

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>>155793048
This is why Phantom World is called special

>>155790171
This was unironically AOTS.

Phantom World is one of the few shows that makes me laugh without needing a couple of beers. It may not be Kyoanis best, but its still pretty good.

>>155793540
how to spot dirty tertiaries

>>155793887
There is no way anybody here has read it. They only go off the summaries novelanon posted.

>>155790171
I think the issue with PW is that it doesn't appeal to any specific group. People that like Kyoto Animation typically arent into high school battle harems and people that are arent going to get too much out of this. It doesnt lean hard in any direction and its episodic, without any kind of actual plot until the end. Lots of people write it off as fan service bait. It has great animation, but again people that are into that arent typically interested in battle harems.

>>155790171
Are you falseflagging, shitposting, or are kyoanifags really this deluded? PW was shit, people only praising it for the girls and the fanservice.
I gave it a chance when it aired, but I dropped it at episode 7.

>>155794346
Woah. You, anonymous number 155794346, gave it a chance? Man, Kyoani must feel honored that such a fine and educated nobody on the internet gave one of their shows a chance.

>>155794496
What reputation?

>>155794496
What did he say? I'm not going to watch his shit videos.

>>155794496
The guy is absolutely irrelevant.

>>155794496
I want eceleb fags to leave.

This has the HOTTEST main villain I've ever seen

>>155794496
What'd he say about it?

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I want to impregnate and marry Mai.

>>155794561
Some shit about the whole show being boring, even though he said he dropped it after the first episode. He wrote it off as being nothing but fanservice.

>>155794694
He watched the whole show and discussed it.

Report anyone discussing e-celebs

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>>155794496

>youtubers

Neo-/a/, everybody.

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>>155794765
>>155794694
>>155794496
>youtube reviewers
What the fuck happened to this board?

>>155791103
As far as story construction goes, K-On is much better in that regard. Even KnK has better plot motivation than the whole shit PW was.

>>155794496
Okay, but what Ultimatemagax said? He is more trustworthy.

>>155795040
I dont think hes mentioned it much

>>155795040
He said he never got around to reading it

>>155795040
It doesn't matter and nobody really goes to youtube except the people that spammed this shit on PW threads and used it to shit on PW.

>>155794654
The truth.

>>155794694
You know what's funny, people did that same thing for Space Dandy too.

Say something nice about Phantom World!

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>>155796102
It's fun!

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>>155796102
The Chuuni summonings, effects, and paroles (except Koito's, piece of shit) were very cool. Ishihara is good at creating stylish magic powers.

>>155796102
Ruru and Koito were well designed, good OST, good animation.

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>>155796102
It gave us the hottest girl of the year.

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>>155796237

>>155796335
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>155796102
It ended

>you will never smell Reina's asshole
Why even live?

>>155794924
>>155794949
It's deleted now, but please tell me it wasn't a video of Digibro. People can't stoop as low as using his videos in an argument.

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>>155793046
>he thinks Phantomfags and KyoAnifags are the same people

>>155796102
There will never be a second season

>>155796044
Please don't even mention Space Dandy in the same sentence as Phantom Shit.

>>155796359
I hope that her voice acting there was altered synthetically, no normal human should be able to shout like that.

>>155796417
it was.


I have this show on my backlog, as much as I like to pretend that people's opinions dont affect when or if I watch a show but they do, now its gonna be even longer before I watch this show.

>>155796835
>Actually caring about what some random youtube eceleb says

You must be very weak minded

>>155796684
What's so funny about that?

>>155796888
I was talking about /a/. sorry I should have just made another post with the second line.

>>155796476
Sorry you got triggered memester, but Space Dandy and Phantom World are essentially the same.

The show kind of suffered a lot from being episodic so there was never really a sense of progression.

The MC wasn't awful but he wasn't entertaining or interesting enough to maintain people's attention when the spotlight had to focus on him.

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>mai
>reina
>koito
There's no way an heterosexual male could hate this show.
So the haters must be fruity boys or fujoshits.

>>155796999
>are essentially the same.
you could make the argument almost any show

>beyblade
>B-daman
>essentially the same

>>155796999
I knew Kyoanifags were delusional but this is on another level.

>>155796907
context

>>155797255
Yeah no, not many others shows are both episodic with a slight overarching plot, that usually highlights a highly different creature and/or setting and scenario each week, changes artstyles in the episodes, where the last two episodes aren't episodic and is completely devoted to the plot, and have been released in the past in the past 3 years.

Because if you do know any others (besides maybe Flip Flappers), then trust me, is really like to know.

>>155797644
>and have been released in the past in the past 3 years
how convenient

>>155797618
They were trying to fool the monkey. What's so funny?

>>155797644
Space Dandy's second to last episode wasn't devoted to the plot in the slightest, aside from the post-credit scene.
Dumb Kyoanifag didn't even watch it.

>>155790171
I'm not sure about the chemistry thing. Mai felt kind of inconsistent with what they wanted out of her and Reina is basically a nonentity. Koito and the kid were alright but there weren't any particularly bold choices for interactions with them and they didn't get too much to work with for their own episodes.

>>155798006
>if a character is not one-dimensional, it's inconsistent

>>155798006
This. PW had the worst dynamics out of any KyoAni show.

>>155790171
dialogue was dull, the whole thing was just underwhelming

>>155790171
PW sucked though

>>155800435
It didn't though

>>155800435
this

>>155800864
not this

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This will never be you.

>>155802044
This will never be him either. Hell, the girls literally shit on him for knowing too much. The anime made it seem like they barely tolerate him. Even some people they help only thank the girls and not him.

>>155802044
>that watercolor painting background
>the bus has curtains?!?

>>155803172
1. that's not watercolor
2. yes, buses have curtains

>>155803172
It's to block out the sun on long trips, tour buses have them usually

neigh

I love KyoAni but I can acknowledge when they make subpar adaptions. Kyoukai no Kanata and Musaigen are both examples of this.

It just needed more stakes. Some threat to care about.

For an anime about superpowers, I never felt like something bad could really happen. I mean ho many episodes happened in dream worlds?

This only happens with enigma, which is the peak of the series.

>>155806159
>an anime with powers that are born from imagination has imaginary threats a lot of the time
hmmmm

>>155806159
But then it wouldn't be fun.

>>155790171
I liked Phantom World. Personally, I think the only people who hate it are fags and fujoshits who are mad that it didn't pander to them.

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>>155806070
Still better than the snoozefest that was Hyouka, shoujo shit like Hibike or outright crap like Amaburi. People who like these deserve a one-way-trip to Auschwitz-Birkenau.

>>155806871
Not to mention degeneracy like Free.

>>155806292
It wasn't fun.

>>155790171
the filler was better than the stuff they actually adapted

People claim this show had bad writing, when it's the only anime to correctly state that Schrödinger's cat is a thought experiment meant to prove that the cat CAN'T be alive and dead at the same time, not that it can.

I swear every other show just see it and go "Whoa the cat can be dead and alive at the same thing, makes sense, I'm totally putting this in my next project" and then just close the book.

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>>155807824
That allegory had little to do with the theory and more to do with the plot of that particular episode. There's a cat phantom and an actual cat 'trapped' inside of a box(house), get it?

>>155794046
that season was pretty horrible though, I don't even remember any good shows from it

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>>155809080
That was such an utterly retarded episode, but at least we got to see catgirl Koito.

>>155790171
>characters develop beyond their initial archetype
Where?

>>155809162
Did we even get to know what kind of music did she listen to?

>>155809103
Konosuba, Grimgar, Boku Dake, Dimension W, Dagashi Kashi started out better than Phantom Sales but in the end they either got stale like Grimgar, KonoSuba, Dagashi or simply went full retarded like Dimension W or Boku Dake. There was also Rakugo but that's a different kind of show, you need to be in the mood for it.

>>155809362
I honestly don't remember.

>>155809103
The best of that season was Rakugo but it was still a 6.

>>155809362
For Koito, it's The Fallen. The best death metal album.