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>two characters voiced by the same VA are also the best girl

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>two characters voiced by the same VA are also the best girl in their series

N-nani?
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>>155761882
>Emilia
>Best girl
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>>155761882
Sorry, but Aqua is best Konosuba.
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>>155761882
But Beako is best ReZero.
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>>155761941

That's a weird way to spell Darkness
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>>155761941
Aqua is not even close.
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The voice actor herself much prefers the one on the right.
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Aqua and Rem are the best girls tho
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>>155761882
GODDO REKURIEMU!!!!
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>>155762022
Rem is shit.
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>>155761993
Daughters should seriously be disqualified from such things they have too much of an advantage.
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>>155761882
I thought the """joke""" in Konosuba was that the entire party of girls were supposed to be shit and it was hell instead of a harem? Why is the romance aspect being played straight?
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>>155762043
Emilia please. Subaru would get mad at you for saying such things.
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>>155762107
Kill yourself retard weeb.
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>>155761882
This joke can't work because Rem was by far the biggest hit last year while Emilia was just there. Don't care for Megu but she is the most popular in her show, true. A hit and miss.
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>>155761941
This.
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>>155761882
Wrong.
Emilia is best ReZero, yes.
But Aqua is the best Konosuba.
Main heroines are the main for a reason.
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>>155762137
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>>155762022
Rem is literally a doormat concubine to walk all over.
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>>155761882
>Best girl
>Not Minerva
>Not Echidna
>Not Rem
>Not any of the other Canidates

Shit taste in ReZeros anon.
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>>155762559
You can only be so wrong.
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Best girl is the earth dragon, Patrasche. Emilia comes right after though.

Megumin is the top girl in Konosuba for sure.
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>>155762137
>Being this mad that Rem was labled as Subaru's "girl in your heart" or "your heart's girl"
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>>155761927

Ah, a fellow gentleman with good taste
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>>155762107

Rem is easily forgettable though since she's that generic. I'd rather play Nekopara
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>>155762559
With how Subaru has gotten so whipped in Rem's presence? I dont think so.
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>>155762735
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>>155761882
but emillia is literally the worst girl in Re:Zero?

You can make a sound argument for Megumin but Emillia is just trash tier.
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>>155761882
Throw in Kafuka as well. Wish she got more roles.
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>>155762863
You keep posting that without really knowing the context that lead to that don't you? I'll give you a hint, it wasnt because he wanted to.
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>>155762983
Nobody needs to know the context. A kiss is a kiss and it always counts as Emilia's win no matter how you look at it.
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>>155763033
Anon if that were true Rem would be basically Subaru's wife right now instead of his girlfriend.
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>>155761993
Correct.

And no one posted Chris yet. How can you call anyone else in fantasy australia best girl? It just doesnt make sense
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>>155763111
Not that anon, but in another storyline she is. Which basically means that the pairing won't happen in the main story.
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>>155761882
How little have you watched to be surprised about this
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>>155761882
I know what you mean. My friend!
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Not that surprising really, Sawashiro Miyuki does it all the time.
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>>155763186
In another storyline Emilia wins the king canidacy and Subaru solely focuses and loves her. Its called ayamatsu. Are ypu saying that Emilia wont win the king canidacy AND have Subaru enjoy her company in the MU as well?
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>>155763255
Ayamatsu Subaru is a creepy stalker who never enjoys her company because he's too busy committing arson to say hi
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>>155761882
Nigga you did not just say Satella is best in her series
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>>155763363
Committing arson for Emilia which he loves. He even said ashiteru to Emilia.
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>>155763404
Because Emilia is basically Satella
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>>155761882
You forgot Matome Mayo
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>>155763363
So you're saying Emilia never has a chance at winning at the king canidacy? Lets not forget daughteru Meili who also became a daughteru both MU and in ayamatsu.
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>>155763255
He doesn't end up with Emilia in that April fool's spinoff. This is why SubaLia will happen in the main story.
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>>155763418
Versus kissing twice in the main story. Reminder that Emilia thinks that kissing gets you pregnant.
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>>155763742
Only once that stuck. The other everyone was dying and Emilia was mind broken.
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>>155763809
That still is 2 points for team Lia.
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>>155763742
One was a "kiss that tasted like death" and the other was him needing to save Sanctuary.

>>155763647
They had an entire year and 3 arcs to do that. They are no closer to each other than they were in the first arc. With neither of them showing any interest persuing anything romantic with each other. On the other hand, we have Subaru who literally strangles people who shittalks his blue haired waifu.
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>>155763647
people who actually believe that this forced pairing that only exists because of circumstances will win should hang themselves, you still didn't realize what the author is doing over and over again
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>>155763928
At least quote the other kiss dude. "A kiss that tastes like death and a kiss that tastes like life."
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>>155764056

But it isn't a forced pairing. SubaLia is a match made from heaven
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>>155764304
I was trying not to quote both due to the obvious implication of those kisses representing Subaru's RbD. But sure.
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>>155764337
What is your evidence that supports this? His memeflirting or the broken promises?
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>>155764411
nah, something like his fetishes and protagonist delusions
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>>155764411
>His memeflirting or the broken promises?
It's literally nothing compared to Rem killing Subaru.
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>>155764472
Subaru winning Rem's trust first makes their relationship even more so better
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>>155764411

They both help people without second thoughts and place others before themselves

Even if they're both breaking apart both physically and mentally they'll force themselves to do what they have to do even if what they're doing is illogical
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>>155762015
Memeguin is looks like a trap.
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>>155764472
Oh christ we're still on this. Subaru was shady as fuck hence why she killed him, and ultimately Subaru himself admitted it was his fault and used those previous experinces to stop Rem's shaking hands.
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>>155764524
good one anon, remember why they had that fight in ep 13?
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>>155764513
>>155764549
Doesn't it prove my point though? That is Subaru and Emilia's relationship can still improve remarkably despite the memeflirting.
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>>155764056
>forced paring
Yes this is true. But the whole point of the story is for Subaru to stop loving Emilia based on appearances and more on personality.
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>>155764524
>I did so much for you that you'll never be able to repay me
>they do it without second thoughts
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Is Re;Zero worth watching? Digi told me it was mediocre and forgettable. The first 2 episodes didn't really grab me.

Is Rie a good VA when she isn't giving 110% like she does with Megameme?
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>>155764524
>They both help people without second thoughts and place others before themselves

Uh, no. Emilia sure but Subaru? Definitely not, remember Liliana?

>Even if they're both breaking apart both physically and mentally they'll force themselves to do what they have to do even if what they're doing is illogical

That's Rem and Subaru not Subaru and Emilia. Except for the illogical part.
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>>155764623
of course it can improve, but not in the romantic direction
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>>155764652
Even the fans of the series say its a medicore adaptation at best so no. They butchered and shafted the plot and characters too.
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>>155764598

You realize this is Subaru breaking apart right? Or are you pretending to be retarded?
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>>155764692
>but not in the romantic direction
Explain why.
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>>155764623
Sure it can. But with the evidence piling up it definitely will not be in a romantic direction. Which is a good thing as they are much better together professionally.
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>>155764411
>broken promises
Oh, you mean like the time where Subaru told Emilia that he would hold her hand throughout the entire night and didn't because he went back inside the trial crypt to write "I love you" and "I will always be with you" on the walls, even though he was rejected from the trials and was vomiting everywhere because he loves her?

Those promises?
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>>155764634
they had one year together without Rem's interference, Subaru knows Emilia pretty well I'd say and the fact that he doesn't show any interest in improving their relationship shows that he doesn't love her for her personality and won't do it because he loves Rem already for her personality
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>>155764814
>he went back inside the trial crypt to write "I love you" and "I will always be with you" on the walls, even though he was rejected from the trials and was vomiting everywhere because he loves her?

When the fuck did this happen? Last time I read those chapters he was bantering with Ram, Lewes missing, Garf acting pissed and Emilia sitting in the cave where Subaru said that "silence means consent".
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>>155764814
Emilia is lucky to have a good husbando like Subaru.
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>>155764752
because Rem gets the next turn, and unless Subaru and Rem suddenly fuck up their relationship for some reason, Emilia and Subaru will start to crumble
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>>155764905
Its one of the things he left to do, but he also had to leave to get a spare crystal for Puck.

>>155764814
Still broke the promise, regardless of his reason for doing so. Which broke the promise to stop breaking promises. Piled on the promise to not go to the selection thing. Among others.
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>>155764814
chapter? I can't remember that happening
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>>155764942
Nice delusion. Subaru will never give up on Emilia so he will most likely fuck both (that is if Rem still has memories kek).
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>>155765077
What is arc 6 chapters 2-4.
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>>155764905
still broke the promise despite knowing how important those are for spirit users, if he can't keep them he shouldn't make them in first place
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So we can all agree Konosuba girls > Re;Zero girls, right?
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>>155765077
>will never give up on Emilia
you mean how he did in ep 18? kek
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>>155761882
Emilia isn't even in the top 3 girls though

Crusch is by far #1
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>>155765028

Maybe you should consider to stop being a speedreader for once. It's at ch117
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>>155765105
Just because Emilia guesses something doesn't mean everything will happen exactly like she says. The author is obviously playing you like a fiddle right now, without you even realizing it or being too arrogant to accept the truth.
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>>155765174
No.
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>>155765174
No.
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>>155765174
I like Konosuba a lot better as a show. But zero has top tier waifus
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>>155765223
The moment Subaru fell for Rem was the moment the author decided that SubaruEmilia won't be a thing.
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>>155765223
So basically eveything that happened up till now is a red herring? That tappei who enjoys giving a ton of foreshadowing will just throw it out the window for your ship?
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>>155765077

This. Re:zero is about Emilia and Subaru, some dumb tryhard crybaby of a maid has no place in it and could only serve as a doormat until the end of time.
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Remfags are the most arrogant and delusional people alive.
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>>155765368
That's a funny way to spell Satella
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>>155765177
Remfags conveniently forgot Subaru also refused to help Rem and Ram and abandoned them in one loop in arc 2.
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>people think a weak loser like Emilia could ever come close to Crusch
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>>155765403
Uh no? When did he do that? He left the mansion to go and espionage for the shaman romaing the mansion. I woudln't call that abandoning. Or are you talking about the time he jumped off the cliff to save the two?
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>>155765403
He didn't? also arc 2 kek, you don't have something better?
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>>155765403
He literally didn't know they had a problem, and as soon as he did he chucked himself off a cliff.
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>>155765357
>foreshadowing
That's how you label it. It's never meant to be foreshadowing. But you Remfags just love to read too much into it.
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How to Emilia's 5 fans handle Rem surpassing her in every aspect
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>>155765437
Its funny that you can completely erase her brain and she's still a better and more capable candidate than Emilia.
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>>155765368
can't wait for the day when the author will be like 'wasn't it obvious that Subaru and Emilia aren't meant to be? I thought there were enough hints'
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>>155765437
It baffles me that anybody thinks anyone else comes close to being a better candidate.
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>>155765559
KEK
E
K
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>>155765547
Oh, so youre saying any story elements or character banter regarding future events is meaningless and should not be taken into consideration despite being repeated numerous times. Got it.
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>>155764652
>Digi told me
I hope for your sake you're baiting.
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>>155765481
How about this then? "I love Emilia." He wouldn't have said it if he truly loved Rem, but because he didn't and instead had strong feelings for Emilia, he thought it was perfectly fine to say it and hurt Rem and Remfags' feelings.
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>>155764652
watch it and say for yourself, don't be a cuck who believes in shitty reviewers like digi
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>>155765627
>despite being repeated numerous times
When has it been repeated?
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>>155765559
Actually, about that Crusch has to start from zero and within a few months can somewhat capably fake being her previous self and lead dudes and whatnot. Even considering Emilia had nothing to start with she should be months ahead of Crusch in terms of learning and also has no other responsibilities except studying and counting stairs. Why is she so dumb?
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>>155762082

Forced pairing for sales purposes obviously. The show is a meme anyway so it's justified to do that.
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>>155765687
anon, he just gave up on Emilia and was like fuck it and you're telling me he has strong feelings for her? Nice joke. Remember when he killed himself after Emilia died? Me neither.
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>>155764652
Emilia isn't a character that demands as much acting as Megumin. First she's barely ever around and second she's very boring. Not worth watching if you want to hear the va voice a worthwhile character.
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>>155765687
>Nobody made expectations for Subaru. She is the only person who didn’t abandon him and didn’t accept the Subaru who abandoned even himself.
>This is the “curse” that Subaru cast on her.

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>[Rem: You woke up with a smile, told me the words I wanted to hear the most when I wanted to hear them the most, from the person I wanted to hear them from the most.]
>The frequency of the “curse” that Subaru cast on her is spoken from her mouth.
>That “curse” profoundly and gently restrained her heart with the chains called faith, and she was tied by them like this now as well.

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>Because he only continued to show his unattractive side…
>Because Subaru himself cast an everlasting “curse” on her…
>He had an obligation to fulfill that duty.

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>He raises his face, looks forward, and then looks into Rem’s eyes. She calmly and kindly waits for Subaru to let out his answer.
>Because Subaru wanted to be the Natsuki Subaru that she loves…
>[Subaru: ??I love Emilia.]
>[Rem: ??Yes.]
>Rem responds to Subaru’s confession by nodding with a smile that made it seem as if she knew everything.
>And while knowing how cruel he was being to her smile and her kindness

Which is further emphasized

>Did he really have enough merit to him for a girl as well-done as Rem to love him so much?
>Even now he had to wonder it. That said, he was simultaneously thinking that he'd have to become a man who matched up to that merit.

I'm sorry? What is this about "I love Emilia"?
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>>155765577
>'wasn't it obvious that Subaru and Emilia aren't meant to be? I thought there were enough hints'
Apparently it's not obvious for Remfags because they are too blind to see anything aside from Rem and their sinking ship.
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>>155764652
Digi is a faggot cuckold whose reviews are only occasionally correct.
his videos are trash in every way also.
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>>155762043
that's a weird way to spell "I'm autistic"
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>>155765724
Really it started ever since arc 2.

>In front, directly ahead of Subaru’s mind, someone stood.
>The shadow grew vertically. Before he knew it, a human silhouette stood before Subaru.
>He couldn’t see its face. The shape was indistinct. But he vaguely thought that it had the shape of a woman.
>The shadow wavered and slowly reached out a hand.
>For some reason, when her fingers gently grazed his mind, Subaru wanted to weep. The wave of strange emotion washing over him suggested that he had always been waiting for her to do so.
>He had an instinctive desire for the wriggling shadow to embrace him, to swallow him whole—and then it stopped. Something had stopped it.
>Subaru’s mind realized that there was another shadow, its white fingers embracing him from behind.
>Her touch felt soft, and not just warm but hot.
>The instant Subaru felt that heat, the shadow before him rapidly faded away.
>He faced his front. His heart trembled. He shouted ferociously. But the world of nothingness had no sound.
>He was left behind as the shadow became distant, fading, fading away.
>Finally, the shadow serenely stretched her fingers out toward Subaru, who was nearly in tears.
>“—ve you.”
>Even the words he could not hear faded, and the world fell apart.
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>It was like that hand had rescued Subaru from a bad dream, as if he were a little kid. No doubt someone had held Rem’s hand on some night when she seemed about to cry. Subaru couldn’t help but be happy, even giddy, that she had done the same for him.
>With no reason to let go, their hands remained together. Subaru kept soaking up the warmth as he inclined his head.

When Rem literally chased away a Satella.
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>>155765858
He's only ever right by luck. He has almost zero actual analytical ability.
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>>155765809
So Subaru only loves Rem because he will otherwise feel bad for not reciprocating to her overwhelming love for him, which means loving Rem is something Subaru never wants to do? kek.
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>>155761882
Sorry OP, but Beako, Rem, and Crusch, in that order, are better than Emilia.
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>>155765856
So what are Remfags missing? Subaru Emilia ship is sinking slowly but surely, I mean you gotta be pretty delusional to ignore that
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>>155765989
It litetally says that Subaru wants to be the Subaru Rem loves. He wants Rem to love him but he doesn't feel worthy of her and that he first needs to become her hero. Guess why he wants to go to the tower by himself instead of letting it someone more capable do it?
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>>155766018

>Subaru Emilia ship is sinking slowly but surely

Read the WN
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>>155765989
I dont know how you managed to get such a twisted interpretation but its explicitly said that Subaru feels as if he doesnt deserve that he is worthy for a woman like Rem and is working hard to become a man worthy of her.
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>>155766163
That is where it is sinking especially. Its the anime where the SubEmilia is rising because Rem got shafted for a "happy ending" by Whitefox execs.
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>>155766163
>Subaru gives up on Emilia
>Subaru falls in love with blueberry
>Subaru kisses Emilia not because he wants to but because he has to
>zero relationship progress after that, not even a 2nd kiss

>not sinking
How do you call that amazing relationship then?
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>>155766266

>not because he wants to but because he has to
>zero relationship progress
>not even a 2nd kiss

see >>155766163 even though the anime is already enough to conclude that Subaru genuinely loves Emilia. Stay delusional with your no kiss potato
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>>155766389
I read the WN and my points are from the WN, you can't even argue properly against them but call me delusional?
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>>155766389
>Replies to a post replying to a post linking that post and telling them to read it but all it says is to read the WN where Emilia is going down faster than your mom
Is this next level Emiliafag stupidity on display?
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>>155766389
Anon, you are shooting yourself in the foot right now if you honestly think the WN is making the SubaEmi relationship stronger despite it clearly being the opposite.
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>>155766266
Every relationship is up and down at some point anon. But it never means their romantic relationship can't become great later on.
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>>155766266
See >>155764814

He would have made Emilia happy just being by her side all night, but he took his chance to sneak off and write love notes in a tomb that physically hurts him. He didn't have to do this.
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>>155766558
>took the chance to break another promise while knowing how important they are to her
kek
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>>155766558
>Break more promises and go do something as an afterthought because you needed to break the promise anyway by teaming up with her dad cat to manipulate her into doing what you want because you don't have time for her stupidity
Sounds like a great relationship
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>>155766558
Well puck did say to comfort her or else.
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>>155766539
That would be the case if Subaru had no feelings for Rem, but he has and they create this unmistakable contrast between both relationships.
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>>155766646
>>155766671
>not taking the chance to make your waifu cry so that you can comfort her later
What, are you gay or something.
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>>155766646
>>155766671
Remfags forget that Rem used to do the same with Subaru by hypnotizing him and leaving him all alone in the inn and made him so furious.
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>>155766793
>making your waifu cry
>emotionally manipulating your waifu
>comforting her for the sake of your kekkaiku rather than out of your own good will
Like I said, great relationship.
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>>155766793
>Making your waifu cry so you can emotionally manipulate her for expediency since your ass is on the line
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>>155766793
does only work if the waifu is actually a retarded doormat, means Subaru exploited her naivity

what a great relationship
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>>155766874
You mean putting him to sleep to keep him safe while she ran off and died? Its a little different than casually breaking promises with the express intent to fuck up her mental state so you can emotionally manipulate her.
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>>155766874
did Rem promise to him that she'll stay by his bedside?
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>>155766874
First no promises were broken. Second it was for his own good because he was gonna die along with her. Lastly she did it out of her own goodwill for Subaru even defying her contract and Roswaal's orders to keep him safe. She was pressured to march Subaru into his death, which she defied for his sake. She seperated from him to stop him from dying. But when it comes to Subaru and Emilia's case its close to the polar opposite of that spectrum.
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>>155766975
>with the express intent to fuck up her mental state
He thought she was asleep. He wasn't planning any kind of 4D chess keikaku to intentionally break her, all he wanted was to graffiti the tomb and grab Puck's crystal, except Emilia caught him in her 'I was just pretending to be asleep!' trap.
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>>155761882
Every other character is better than Emilia in Re:Zero
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>>155767006
Betraying him is even worse.

>>155766975
>with the express intent to fuck up her mental state so you can emotionally manipulate her.
Nice headcanon.
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>people replying seriously
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>>155761882
You forgot pic related also best girl of the show
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>>155764538
This looks like a trap?
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>>155761882
Why do people hate Emilia so much? keep in mind I haven't watched Re:Zero, is it just waifu wars or not? I think her design is great so I'd give her best girl status just for that.
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>>155767048
This.
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>>155767166
Yes.

Because 2D traps are literally just girls that the author/artist decides is a boy.
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>>155765223
Its not the fact Emilia guessed it was the fact Emilia guessed and was correct. Subaru chocking back on his rebuttal as what she said was a true statement.
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>>155767093

Can't help it with no kiss potatoes getting insecure. Someone has to entertain their delusion and mental gymnastics every now and then
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>>155767048
His plan with Puck was literally to break her, he just didn't assume him running off to get a crystal would be completely part of that. He completely disregarded his promise to her at all to complete his plan of fucking with her.
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>>155767266
If only Ferris didnt cockblock Subaru and Rem from facefucking each other. I'll wait for arc 6, I have the patience.
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>>155767073
>>155767234
It was literally Puck and Subaru's plan. They talked about it specifically and in detail. Puck needed to fuck off so Emilia would be broken and emotionally vulnerable so Subaru could get her to do what he needs her to do. He was getting worried because she ended up being more broken than they both had expected which made things more complicated and so stuff came down to the wire.
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>>155767288
His plan with puck was to get puck to fuck off so that it was at all possible for her to win the trial
Then shove him in a crystal and comfort Emilia

>>155767347
>so Emilia would be broken and emotionally vulnerable so Subaru could get her to do what he needs her to do
so that THE TRIAL IS POSSIBLE FOR HER TO BEAT because if puck is not fucked off then the trial is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE for her
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>>155767266
What you people seem to forget that after the whale battle Subaru tried to go in for a kiss with Rem only to be interrupted by Felix, what was great about that was Subaru wanted a kiss from Rem but was forced to kiss Emilia.
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>>155767344
Hopefully you are patient enough to wait until Rem finally gets her memories back after Subaru already marries Emilia kek.
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>>155767425
This. It's again the natural will against being forced to do it, like every time it comes to both relationships.
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>>155767479
For one, Emilia is literally not allowed to pursue any relationships for the next couple years. And second, she's so dumb she'd actually need more time than that to even know what a relationship is.
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>>155767479
Well if Emilia's "visions of impending disaster" are correct it just might be at the end of arc 6. Her name most likely will come back at the end of arc 9 though.
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There's a show were she voiced a great girl, and no will mention her.
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Aqua > Megumin > Rem > Emilia > Darkness
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>>155767575
I thought someone did. Although Mayo was basically Emilia except lewd. Which is fantastic
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>>155767685
Emilia is lewd around Arch. She just feels more comfortable exposing herself rather than being pervy around him though.
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>>155767653
Megumin > Rem > Aqua > Darkness >>>>>>> Emilia

I can appreciate your taste though.
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>>155767833
RIP Arch, super cancer is a terrible way to go.
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>>155767833
Sad he had to die. Emilia would have had a husband by now.
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>>155762023
I thought this was an Aqua Teen Hunger Force edit from the thumbnail.
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>Emilishit
>best
You must be 18 years or older to post on this site
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>>155767266
Soon
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The only reason why Rem likes Subaru is because that's never had something to call hers before. Prove me wrong.
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Yunyun is best Konosuba and Felix is best Re:Zero you fucking plebs
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>>155768766
>A heroic tale starting from Zero
>Natsuki Subaru’s Splendid Steward Life
>The best day of Rem's life
>Withdraw symptoms and Mayonnaise Scramble
>The Head Maid’s Restless Day Off
>The hidden village Oni sisters EX blessing day 1 & 2
>Blessing Day EX: Rem-rin’s Day & Rem’s Birthday Party
>Rem's very ordinary happy day
>King's game

With many more
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>>155768970
I don't care how many side stories Rem is featured in. All I know is that knight and queen romance is always better than your dumb and silly knight and filthy commoner, pleb, servant, maid romance.
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>>155769208
Those stories Rem has been in are basically her and Subaru flirting, spoiling each other and solving each other's deeply rooted probelms.
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>>155769290
Well that and shittalking from the two.
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>>155769208
This is true. Rem adds literally nothing to the story at this point.
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>>155768970

>side stories

ahahahaha how low are you willing to drop before your insecurity is satisfied?
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>>155769410
>Current arc is entirely because of her
>Hurr durr adds nothing
Color me surprised Emiliashitters can't read
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>>155769489
I dont get how the SOL chapters dont hold the same weight as the other chapters. They are events that happened between the arcs when nothing horrible was happening. Much like when Subaru did intense training for a year between arcs 4-5. You wanted different reasons and evidence, I have given them to you. But if you want to look more into it there are arcs 2 and 3 with both of them active and arcs 4 and 6 seeing why their love for each other makes sense and is justified. I also would like to pull chapter 31 of arc 4 as reference for Subaru's reasons and case as a big one. As I know that this us talking about the pair rather than the individual.
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>>155769605
>Current arc is entirely because of her
Can you stop spewing lies? The group goes to the tower to restore Julius's name and revive Anastasia too so it's not just about Rem. Stop acting like Rem is the center of everything holy fuck.
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>>155769208
what is better about it?
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>>155769605
Not even that to be honest, the entire reason arc 5 was possible was because of Rem in arc 3 which Subaru credited to. But if we are talking about plot ties there is Al and the assasins guild as well as Satella repulsion tied to Rem. As Al refuses to veleive Rem is alive and Meili was on a mission to assasinate Rem, not Subaru for unknown reasons, then there is this mysterious "Mother" people are talking about.
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>>155769923
Main objective is waking up Rem.It was established pretty early that Subaru only wants to go there because of her. So yes, she's the center of this arc.
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>>155769923
>In order to save the multitude of people-the multitude of men within the town of Pristella who were suffering the same type of fate as Rem-he went on a journey towards the Pleiades watchtower. However, if you were to point out his real motive, the real reason Subaru moved forward towards this watchtower was because of Rem; nothing else was a real possible candidate for being his true reason. It was unreasonable and inappropriate, even while understanding that, Subaru continued to—–.

>[Subaru: I will save you, Rem. That is my oath.]

>Just like she was there for Subaru during those fragile days, in those times- Now was the time when Subaru wanted to be the one there for her and offer his hand, in these times where Rem needed someone’s hand the most.

Arc 6 chapter 4.
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>>155761927
if emilia wasn't best girl, why is rem not fmc hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
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>>155769923
Why do I get the feeling you actually don't read the series?
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>>155770026
>So yes, she's the center of this arc.
>is barely mentioned in arc 6 chapters except the first few ones so far.
No she's not.
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>>155769410
At least Rem did something when she was awake. Emilia has been doing nothing but being a damsel in distress since arc 1. Fucking useless pos.
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>>155770026

>Main objective

You don't get it. Subaru will save everyone within his reach and even if a single one of them is missing he will literally kill himself even if it's for someone like Petra.
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>>155762436
*slow clap*
>rem best girl ecks dee
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>>155770150
I never said Emilia was best girl, Echidna is best girl hence pic related.
But if you want my honest opinion from a Donafag whe is literally one of thw worse characters Re:Zero has to offer, she doesn't invote anything and is completely generic, she is bland and the more I get to know Emilia such as arc 4 the less interested I become of her which is the opposite for many characters like Ram or Otto. At least with Roswaal he can at least invoke emotion in me like absolute hatred.
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>>155770242
See
>>155770110

Why are you arguing something that has been explicitly stated?
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>>155770242
arc 6 main objective is waking up Rem, read the WN before you write as if you know something
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>>155767232
She didn't get a lot of meaningful screen time. Also, her relationship with Subaru seems really unnatural to me when comparing to how he acts with everyone else. It just feels like something is off when you see him with anyone else, male or female.
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>>155770179
>except the first few ones
yeah because we have only the first few ones translated, there're only 27 or so chapters released yet from who knows how many
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>>155770374
>>155770375

It's his usual altruism at play and repaying what's been done to him. And your point is?
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>>155770557
You cannot be this dense.
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>>155770557
you're dumb, holy shit
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>>155761882
Just popping in to say that I bought this like two weeks ago and the word "satisfied" doesn't even describe my mood. This was such a great purchase. If there's one of those crossover gimmick figures like Senjougahara/Madoka I'm buying it day one. Though it does help both Megumin and Emilia's outfits are actually really solid and cute.
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>>155770644
are you sponsored or what?
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>>155770712
Nah, I'm just a faggot
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>>155767232
Many things but this guy
>>155770269
Captures a good number of my points, but another good portion is her witchyness and dynamic with the MC. She may look cute but that's pretty much all she has got going for her.
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>>155770826
go to the buyfag thread if you want to talk about merch
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>>155770538
>doesn't know how many chapters where Rem is mentioned.
>still claims arc 6 is all about her anyway.
If you care to read the synopsis, you will know that Rem is barely mentioned in arc 6. Hell there is nothing related to Rem except the "Waking Rem up" objective, which is one of many objectives of the expedition group, as of right now, so you can't say Rem is the only focus of arc 6. Arc 6 is more about Julius/Anastasia/Ram honestly.
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Such a refined taste
>>155762318
>>155761941
>>155762023
>>155762436
>>155763206 You too mate, Maya Uchida is a gift from the gods.
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>>155770960
I didn't say she's the only focus, I said she is the main objectice which was even stated at the beginning. If Rem wasn't in coma they wouldn't go there. So fuck off.
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>>155770615
>>155770626

Are you trying to deny what I've said that Subaru won't save everyone within his reach given the opportunity? He'll be doing the same whether it's Emilia, Otto, Ram, Frederica, Petra, Garfiel or Beatrice that went limp. If he's willing to die countless of times for someone he just met like Emilia whatever makes you think that he wouldn't do it for everyone? Arc 6? Don't make me laugh with your dumb mental gymnastics
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>>155771111
that wasn't even the topic of the discussion, you 're dumb because you bring up stuff noone was talking about to try to make a point. Retard.
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>>155771087
If Anastasia's body didn't get possessed and Julius's name didn't get eaten, then they wouldn't go there either. So fuck off.
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>>155771257
except they would go without them?
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>>155771213

muh main objectives amirite
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>>155771111
Oh christ anon it is even said that he doesnt give a shit about anyone else that much except for Rem when going to the tower. If it was everyone else he can always get Ley who is a sure-fire way for getting everyone back rather than the chance of getting someone back through loose information. What made him move to the tower is Rem and Rem only, nobody else as stated by the chapter.
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>>155771257
Crusch lost her memories what the fuck ever happened to her? Exactly. If Julius or Anastasia didnt have the events happen to them Subaru would have gone anyways regardless of their company.
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>>155771294
Without Anastasia being the guide? Yeah he would never know the way to the tower and never try to risk bringing Rem outside. And the group's objective right now is to revive Gluttony's victims rather than just Rem. Don't mistake it. Just because Subaru says he will save Rem doesn't mean everyone will do the same. Subaru's plan is just a part of the whole group's objective.
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>>155761882
>only two
meanwhile every girl Yukarin voices is best girl
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>>155771111
>However, if you were to point out his real motive, the real reason Subaru moved forward towards this watchtower was because of Rem; nothing else was a real possible candidate for being his true reason. It was unreasonable and inappropriate, even while understanding that, Subaru continued to—–.
>the real reason Subaru moved forward towards this watchtower was because of Rem
>nothing else was a real possible candidate for being his true reason.

Can you not read? Chist anon you're almost as dense as spfag.
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>>155771584
But the entire point of the discussion was Subaru's motive, not anyone else's. The others are obviously focused on their own problems, but we all know what the driving force for Subaru is.
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>>155771111
The only reason he is going to the tower is for Rem. If it was just for Julius, or Anastasia, or random villagers he would just send Reinhard. He, specifically, is doing this mission personally, specifically, just for Rem.
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>>155771685
Pretty sure he is spfag, or is aping his style.
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>>155771584
The reason they got to the tower was because of posessed anastasia being their guide as she is the main information hub for that. But that couly literally apply to anyone who gets possesed by foxchidna, if Ram got possesed by her it would pretty much be the same thing. If Subaru found a fucking map or talked to the scarf it would be the same damn thing regardless if or if not Anastasia was present. Hell if he read it from a damn book it would be the same thing, he would most to the tower regardless of their company, but their circumstances pretty much placed them together.
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>>155771584
Besides Anastasia and Julius everyone follows Subaru because they wan't to help him and he goes because he want's to save Rem. So it all comes down to Rem's awakening being the goal in this arc. Anastasia being the guide is great but Subaru would've taken the chance anyways and found a way to get there.
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>>155771738
That is Subaru's reason to go to the tower yes. But the arc right now is focusing on other character, particularly Julius, not just Subaru. So waking Rem is just a side objective of the arc. Exploring Julius's, Anastasia's and even Ram's backstory would be instead the focus of the arc. Rem waking up would perhaps only get mentioned at the very end of the arc.
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>>155771993
This is like saying that arc 2 goal was to learn about curses rather than winning the maid's trust. Julius and Anastasia are just for some side info in this arc, not the goal.
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>>155771993
So I guess arc 3's main goal was to eliminate the Witch Cult huh?
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>>155771993
Rem's awakening will likely be the full 2nd half of this arc. The Julius focus right now is just some setup.
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>>155772261
Not him but I honestly think she will revive close to the end of arc 6 as arc 7 will have Al as the focus. We know Al want to see Rem dead so.
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>>155772163
>>155772236
>>155772261
>not the goal.
If you want to put it that way then okay. Waking Rem up in arc 6 will be similar to saving Emilia in arc 3, as in they will be mentioned at the end of the arc rather than being the one to receive any development throughout the arc. So most likely Rem will have some major presence only at the end of arc 6, after the characters already resolve every potential threat or obstacle before that.
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>>155771993
>That is Subaru's reason to go to the tower yes.
So the statement 'Rem is the reason Subaru is going to the tower' is true, yet you just spent the last ten fucking posts arguing that it isn't. Hi ESL, glad to see you're still stupid as fuck and still haven't read the WN at all.
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>>155772436
If you think the arc focuses only on Subaru then yeah arc 6 will be all about Rem. But nope.
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>>155772492
Literally no one said it did except you. Everyone said Subaru was going to the tower to save Rem and you spent 30 minutes arguing that he doesn't until you finally are forced to admit that he does. Just go kill yourself.
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>>155772409
It fully depends on how she will get healed. Maybe he must find fragments of her memories at some place and he will see her past or something. In this case the story would focus on Rem and Subaru, bring development and might take many chapters until she actually wakes up. I don't think that just the end of this arc will focus on Rem.
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>>155771111
>[Subaru: Well putting the juxtaposition of Garfiel’s impression and his way of thinking aside…..it’s not like I…It’s not like I think there isn’t a person out there that’s more suitable for the job. And first of all, leaving everything up to Reinhard would be safer in all kinds of ways if there were preparations to escape the desert maze.]
>[Petra: Then why don’t you let him do it?]
>[Subaru: I wonder why. Despite being someone who’s fond of being spoiled, I thought I was someone that didn’t yearn for honor.]
>In actuality he really did not understand why he desired to do it like this. His audacious words would simply take form in this way. Whenever his audacious words took form, it would probably become something like such, maybe.
>[Subaru: ——Never mind. This is something I want to do myself after all. Even if there might be someone more suited for it out there, even though I know there’d be a higher chance of success that way, I still want to do it.]
>[Petra: Why?]
>[Subaru: It’s embarrassing but….it’s because I want to be the first one to see her when she wakes up.]
>He didn’t specify who. Even if he didn’t specify, Petra understood who it was. If a way to wake up that girl—the girl who continued to be in a state of deep slumber—was found at the sage’s tower, he wanted to be the one to seize it.
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>——-Thus, Natsuki Subaru would be the one to go.
>There were countless others who were stronger.
>There were countless others who were more reliable.
>There were countless others who were wiser.
>There were countless others of class who were more wonderful.
>But Natsuki Subaru would ignore all of that, and he would be the one to go. He did this only because he wanted to be praised by this girl after he saved her.
>[Subaru: Sorry for disappointing you with my selfishness.]

Yes I do deny that statement. That Subaru would have personally done it just for anyone. Funny thing is it was also stated in the same page
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>>155771993
The goal of arc 1 was to get past some thugs
The goal of arc 2 was to pet a puppy without dying
The goal of arc 3 was buying some apples
The goal of arc 4 was drinking Dona tea
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>>155772492
I don't think that's his point. The arc is obviously not only about Emilia, he's saying that Subaru's motivation on going to the tower is for to save Rem. He only agreed because Scarf dina goaded him into believing there may be a cure for her there, and that's why he went, he otherwise wouldn't have bothered.
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>>155767232
Were is the better resolution?
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>>155772649
Because of where they are they'll probably get some tasty hints on Satella and Flugel stuff, but I'm not sure what. Although Subaru is notoriously bad at exploiting resources not related to whatever goal he's working on at the time, otherwise he should've picked Echidna's brain a lot more.
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>>155767653
Shit taste anon. Emilia>darkness>megumin>rem>aqua
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Are Remfags really Remfags or are they mostly Anti-Emilia faggots?
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>>155772615
>Literally no one said it
>So yes, she's the center of this arc (>>155770026)

>>155772691
But my point has been that Rem will not be featured that much until a very later point of the arc. Just like saving Emilia in arc 3, waking Rem up doesn't make her the center of all characters' developments. Unless you think 10 minutes of total screentime can make Rem the center of everything.
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>>155772761
Satella and Flugel is for the end game. They might get some new info in the tower but not much overall, I'd surprised if more than a chapter was about them.
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>>155772818
My bad i meant to say Rem isn't the center of the arc, but Subaru's main motivation for going to the tower. Not that Emilia is the center.
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>>155772818
>She is the main objective of this arc hence why she is the center of said arc
I dont see anything wrong with that anon's statement. Everything he said is basically true. Unless you beleive that the goal is not central to the story somehow.
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>>155772818
we're probavly not even at 30% of this arc, stop acting like you know what is gonna happen and how much focus will be on her awakening like your baseless assumption is a fact
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>>155772806
They're anons who read the WN. Which has 126 chapters translated for arc 4 ongoing and 9 chapters for arc 9 ongoing.
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>>155773014
*arc 6
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>>155773014
*arc 6
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>>155772907
Alright if that makes you feel any better then you can put it that way. The problem seems to arise mostly because of our different interpretation of "Arc 6 is about Rem." Yeah Rem waking up can be seen as the "main objective" but it doesn't make the arc focus more on her than on other characters at all.
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>>155773050
>>155773052
Thank you
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>>155772903
All I can feel is butthurt from the ayamatsu and kasane Subarus. This is nice.
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>>155772903
I take great joy that they try to make accurate outfits for the Subaru's regarding each arc and AU.
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>>155772658
Yet people wonder why those two love each other still.
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>>155761882
See also.
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>>155772818
She is the center of the arc dipshit. You're saying people claimed she's the only focus, which you couldn't even find anyone saying that and act like someone saying she's the main point of the arc is somehow the same thing. Kill yourself.
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>>155773142
Arc 3 was about buying apples. They bought apples in it, its just as important as Emilia, don't act like she matters at all compared to apples.
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>>155765877
>Rem is Satella repellent
What did Tappei mean by this?
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>>155773782
Okay let's play your game then. From Zero was about Emilia because arc 3 was again all about Emilia.
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>>155773919
If I was stupid and used your logic, then yes.
>Hey someone is pointing out how my logic is stupid as fuck
>I know, I'll say some other stupid thing using my stupid logic that'll show them!
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>>155773919
I really dont understand why you dont get sarcasm.
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>>155774008
>>155773988
But I'm being sarcastic?
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>>155774048
Sure you were mister "Okay lets play your game then".
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>>155774048
Are you? Its indistinguishable from the stupid fucking shit you've been spouting for an hour like that Subaru isn't going to the tower for Rem or that Rem isn't important to arc 6 at all.
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>>155774082
Rem is important to arc 6 the same way Emilia is to arc 3. Wow I actually like this comparison.
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>>155774152
Well no shit sherlock. Its almost as if you've been trying to claw for higher ground despite being constantly beaten into submission.
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>>155774152
Gee, was that so hard to say? See how that sentence looks nothing like 'Subaru isn't going to the tower to save Rem, he's doing it for literally anybody else, like Julius!' or 'Rem doesn't matter for the arc because Petra said something one time!'
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>>155772658

Then you're wrong. All you're doing are trampling over his beliefs and actions so far. Take your currently deluded mind elsewhere and come back when you can finally see the tons of people he saved FOR FREE, relevant or irrelevant.
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>>155774234
>Subaru isn't going to the tower to save Rem, he's doing it for literally anybody else, like Julius!
Not sure if I did say that but again my point was that Rem would be saved sure, but the arc might focus more on Julius and other characters' developments first before getting into Rem awakening part near the end.
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>>155774393
He's saved tons of people in lots of ways. He wouldn't be going to this tower to just get Julius his name back. He wouldn't be going to this tower to help random potatoes. Even if he knew about the tower, he'd just hook Anastasia and Reinhard up and have them go for it, because he's basically a liability. But he has his potato, and he selfishly wants to be the one to save her, to be the person she sees when she wakes up. Ram is the same way, she selfishly wants to be on this adventure because it is important to her, even though she's mostly just inconveniencing people.
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>>155774466
>but again my point was that Rem would be saved sure, but the arc might focus more on Julius and other characters' developments first before getting into Rem awakening part near the end.
Which is literally irrelevant to the reason this was brought up in the first place, which is that Rem does nothing to the story or there's nothing in the story she's involved in. I don't give a fuck if Arc 6 has other things, that arc 6 exists and that Subaru's motivation is Rem is enough to disprove the inane claim that she has nothing to do with the plot. Then you jump in and keep arguing the point that she's irrelevant. If you don't believe that, or don't want to argue that point, try not responding with useless shit in response to rebuttals to that point.
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>>155774393
>Saving people /=/ him personally going to suicide tower when he explicitly said that he would rather let Reinhardt do it if it was anyone else.
Can you not get that through your thick skull? This isn't some kind of altruism like you have stated >>155770557. It is because he is solely doing it for Rem and Rem only which is also stated >>155770110. There are better people for the job and Subaru recognizes that hence why he said he was selfish, because better people could have done the job more effectively rather than him. Because Subaru isn't the type of guy who honor seeks anymore to save others. If anyone could do a better job than Subaru Subaru would let them do it instead of himself. But since Rem is involved he took matter into his own hands rather than letting others handle it.
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>>155774749
>which is that Rem does nothing to the story or there's nothing in the story she's involved in.
>the inane claim that she has nothing to do with the plot.
>Then you jump in and keep arguing the point that she's irrelevant.
I don't remember where I said these things but okay.
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>>155774900
This is the cause you championed. If you don't agree with this statement, shut the fuck up, because everyone is currently arguing against this point and nobody gives a shit if Arc 6 has other plot elements.
>>155769410
>This is true. Rem adds literally nothing to the story at this point.
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>>155774900
>>155769410
>>155769923
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>>155774999
>>155775034
>I-I-'m not that anon!
>I-I-I Never said thaat!

Wait for the damage control.
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>>155775034
I love how Remfags act as if only one Emiliafag can exist in this world.

>>155774999
>If you don't agree with this statement, shut the fuck up
>Don't you dare disagree with us Remfags!
Okay.
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>>155775144
What did you not get about the anon's memo of
>This is the cause you championed
Are we talking to a brick wall?
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>>155775034
Oh and by the way, I wonder how you could interpret "Stop acting like Rem is the center of everything holy fuck" as "Rem is completely irrelevant to the story." I can't follow your train of thought sorry.
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>>155775144
>>155775071
This guy called it, but regardless, I used the word 'championed' for a reason. If you are not that person and you do not agree with what they said, do not champion their cause. Given your post you have actually decided you do agree with that statement, since you're making a strawman and acting like only a moron would disagree with it. In which case you are back to being a complete idiot not merely for arc 6, but also for the numerous other things Rem has been tied to.
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>>155775280
>the numerous other things Rem has been tied to.
What are those?
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>>155775263
The part that says 'Stop acting like Rem is the center of everything holy fuck' means 'Stop acting like Rem is the center of everything holy fuck' the other thing you argued that says 'This is true. Rem adds literally nothing to the story at this point.' means 'Rem is completely irrelevant to the story.'

Sorry for being able to read. Again, if you don't agree with the second sentence, stop arguing in favor for it.
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>>155775342
Roswaal and Ram require Rem for any sort of complete resolution, and who knows how complicated that's going to get. Al has beef with Rem at least, and will be featured next arc, so its likely her revival will trigger something. There are other oddities surrounding her that might or might not be tied to the above, like being able to detect witch scent. Obviously the Emilia/Subaru/Rem love triangle requires her for some sort of resolution. That sort of thing.
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>>155775467
There is Still "Mother" and Subaru apparently not being the intended target of assassination by Meli after-all. In the ayamatsu chapter Rem died anyways from the same thing despite never meeting Subaru.
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>>155773873
Rem is confirmed endgame, at least I hopeit us.
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>>155775400
I'm confused. I haven't read what the other anon writes at all. What does he say?

>>155775467
Most of those things you list can happen after arc 6, so Rem doesn't have to be the center of arc 6. That's my point alright.

>like being able to detect witch scent.
What's so special about this?
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>>155775651
Maybe you should learn to follow a post chain faggot then you'll realize why someone would post what they do. But nah, I guess its smarter to jump in on an argument and say stupid and irrelevant shit, get called on it and get butthurt for saying more stupid shit.

>What's so special about this?
The list of regular people that can do this is 0. Rem is ostensibly a regular person, arguably weaker than a regular person when compared to her race, yet she's pretty much always been able to do this.
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>>155762082
to make money nigga. doesnt matter how hard you fucking parody something and make fun of a genre, otaku retards will eat that shit up and make it their own.
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>>155775775
>But nah, I guess its smarter to jump in on an argument
I thought I started everything first.

>The list of regular people that can do this is 0.
Mabeasts can, and Ram could have done it too but she lost her horn so.
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>>155775651
>so Rem doesn't have to be the center of arc 6.
Well too fucking bad. Because she is. The point of arc 3 is not 'Crusch beats up a space whale' even though Crusch does accomplish her goal of beating up a space whale. Its not 'Wilhelm avenges his wife (for now)' even though Wilhelm avenges his wife (for now). Its not even 'Rem confesses her feelings to Subaru' even though that happens and is fairly important to Subaru accomplishing his goals. The point of arc 3 is saving Emilia. The point of arc 6 is saving Rem.
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>>155775855
>Mabeasts can, and Ram could have done it too but she lost her horn so.
Mabeasts are people now? And no, Ram can't, nor could she. The guy that broke her horn is roughly easily defeated by Rem once she takes notice of how his power is functioning, which she can only do because she can smell it. No other Oni are or were capable of detecting the cultists or they wouldn't have been snuck up on or blown up.
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>>155775906
Yeah I'm looking forward to those 5 minutes of Rem's screentime in arc 6.
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>>155764652
>Digi told me
Bruh.
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>>155775949
>easily defeated by Rem
I wouldn't say that, she nearly died fighting that cultist behind the warehouse where Roswaal lured her into.

>>155775993
Good, its almost as much screen-time Emilia gets in arc 6. Take not I'm not being literal with the six minutes just in case you don't get it.
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>>155776164
>Good, its almost as much screen-time Emilia gets in arc 6.
Okay? I'm interested in Julius anyway so I wouldn't mind seeing more of him. That being said, I'm disappointed that Rem couldn't wake up sooner because this whole coma thing has been dragging on too long so I just want it to be over so that the author can focus on other things.
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>>155776164
That's why I said roughly. Most of her damage came early when she didn't realize how his stuff worked. But as soon as she did she started taking him apart until a building fell on her.
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