Digimon

Tri was a mistake

>>155739169
NANI MO NAI YO NO NAKA JA

>>155739755

This. Didn't even bothered after the first movie

>>155739755
Tri isn't that "great", but I'm enjoying the fuck out of it.

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>tfw you accidentally Taichi

Oh shit. OH SHIT. Guys, you gotta help me! Help me hide him somewhere before his sister finds out!

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So why is Hikari so mad?

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Olympos XII or at least Bancho in an anime when?

I'm sick of knights and demon lords

I would love it, absolutely love it if Taichi and Hikari got together only to be revealed they were NBR.

>>155739886
Third movie was great

(time to watch fourth one)

>>155740997
Nightly Business Report?

>>155741126
Same.

>>155739755
That it was. And all the nadenade we went through for it only make things worse.

>>155741256
>nadenade
Just seeing that phrase pisses me off, they really screwed the pooch with that.

>>155739755
I just wanna know who the final boss is. I hope it's Zeed.

>>155740494
>tailmon mega all spikes and edge
unless you think that happens BECAUSE hikari got angry, skullgreymon style

>>155739766
SOU SA ITOSHII

>>155740494
wtf where's seraphimon

>>155739755
No doubt about it.

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Who's the cutest Digimon and why is it Patamon?

>>155739755
Not for me at all

rather Tri than nothing, and certainly since so it retcons 02 epilogue

>>155743913
That's Ophanimon Falldown mode. It's definitely a dark evo and not Tailmon's real Ultimate

>>155745434
Seraphimon already appeared in the previous movie.

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>>155745434
Probably saved for sixth movie.
(Last Digimon to have it's s evolution like usual)

>>155747460
It was achieved in Loss, Seraphimon has already made his first appearance

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>>155747460
>>155747399
>>155747503

>Seraphimon already appeared in the previous movie.

I really need to stop reading meme and start watching fourth movie...

http://imgur.com/a/sk1US

>>155747616
FUCK Young Hunters with a rusty spike that crossover arc went fucking nowhere

And yeah you should watch Loss, it and Confession were really good.

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>>155747675
>>155739169

>>155747616
Don't expect anything. He just randomly shows up and does nothing

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>>155747809
Story of my life

>>155740494
She's mad because the 02 kids are dead.

>>155739755
Savers fan here.

Who here disappointed that Yggdrasil is the antagonist again and think Tri's Yggdrasil can't possibly do any better than Savers or X-Evolution?

>>155747675
DAMN

>>155748306
Yeah the series is very hung up on Yggdrasil and Milleniummon due to the fact it's basically their in universe God and Satan respectively.

Savers has done the best evil Yggdrasil story, Cyber Sleuth has done the best Yggdrasil corruption story, I hope Tri takes it in another direction after flips the script to reveal Yggdrasil is good for once. But since Homeostasis and Yggdrasil never agree that probably won't be the case.

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>>155748178
Either that or Meiko finally show her true color.
(Her target was Taichi from the beginning and not Takeru!)

>>155747675
What is this?

>>155748590
If Yggdrasil is the Big Good and Milleniummon the Big Evil, who is the Big Squid of Oblivion?

>>155748728
Hosoda's entire interview from what it seems.

>>155740997
>NBR
LITERALLY the shittiest thing that could happen.

>>155748840
Technically also Millenniummon

>>155739755

Animated Herculeskabuterimon alone makes your post wrong.

>>155740494

>This movie is probably gonna be a love triangle with Takeru
>We'll never be able to incestpost again

Fuck.

>>155747675
I want to see someone claiming this is also "a fake" or an "April's fools prank".

>>155750904
Who cares? This >>155750643 is probably going to happen since Hikari already showed interest for Takeru.

>>155750976
Tri and "DA Ep. 21 incest undertones" are two different things, anon.

>>155751030
And Tri is the one that matters in the big scheme of things.

>>155751062
Just like 02.

>>155751125
Yes. People are still mad at the epilogue.

>>155739755
This.

>>155751167
Yes. Because of Yamato/Sora Ken/Miyako and no Takari. Shit's no issue.

>>155739755
I don't think it was a mistake but it really needs proper direction. What made Adventure so great was that it was a character driven show with moster battles. Both had an eaual amount of attention. Now Tri it has the problem of focusing too much on the kids and their inner conflicts a bit too much. I get why Taichi was hesitant about fighting in Odaiba again but at least show more than collateral damage and a cell phone. Show people emerging out of the rubble or a news report of injuries or casualties. Would have made the stakes higher. Plus they are moving the plot at a snails pace and the reboot itself was just forced drama bullshit that erases character development especially Tailmon's. Also what is this infection? Where did it originate? Why is Meicoomon a carrier? We have 2 movies left to conclude this shit and all our time was waised on an isen episode and a school festival episode.

>>155751382
And none of those were issues back in '99.

>>155740494
>can only get Ophanimon: Falldown Mode by already having Ophanimon

So Ophanimon confirmed? If so I am a little disappointed as I wanted the fluffy pink dragon.

>>155751382
>Everyone gets a fucking digimon.
>Daisuke's son is the leader.
>02 treated the manchild that threw a tantrum just because no one gave him a digimon when he asked for as a hero.

>>155752476
Like Hosoda's interview. But there's still fags falseflagging or in denial.

>>155752350
>a news report of injuries or casualties
They did that, they have everyone around him talking about family members ending up in the hospital or their houses destroyed. I think he even overheard someone mention a family member in critical condition because of the fight. This was all during the time he's looking at the rubble and collateral damage that he directly caused.

I do agree the plot feels overly ambitious, though. Too many plot lines are currently up in the air and we have only a maximum of 10 episodes, and I doubt both movies will go for 2.5 hour run time, to wrap it all up. The real stain on Tri was Determination, episode 5-7 is usually shit filler but I don't think they should have wasted time with fan service when Tri is already a fanservice project. I don't mind the drama of the reboot and I feel it's going to be addressed in Symbiosis, Tailmon's past combined with whatever Hikari's development is going to be the impetus for falldown mode.

>>155752594
Doesn't matter. Fags will focus only on shipping and forget 02 inconsistencies.

>>155752618
Incestfags and taiorafags are the worst.

>>155752702
Case in point.

>>155751382
Uh, no.

The last-second return of Myotismon, the non-ending, dangling plot threads and shitty "into the future with our clones" is why I'm still annoyed.

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>>155752702
Soratofags are much worse.

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>>155752702

>>155752702
My experiences with Taiorafags and Soratofags

Taiorafags seem to spend more time trying to justify why it's not an impossible concept, but typically stay quiet unless Sora's love life comes up.

Soratofags go out of their way to stomp over Taiorafags whenever possible.

>>155752779
>canon vs non-canon metafiction
Nah

>>155753027
>Spoke once or twice vs Actually had foundation building in the story.

Canon works against Sorato, not for it.

So is the hosoda interview false or not?

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>>155753027
>canon vs non-canon
When did that stop shipping war?

>>155753225
Yes.
>>155753255
Never, but it makes the non-canon side look like retards.

>>155753225
It's not false

but it's also people blowing things out of proportion.

So, will it be Ophanimon or Magnadramon?

>>155753225
See for yourself.

>>155747675
Shit is legit as fuck.

>>155753225
Seems to be true although the translation paints it in a more literal sense rather than allegorical which is what it seems was his intent. Either way someone asked Kakudo on twitter if Hosoda is telling the truth that they have an incestuous relationship. His answer was basically, "What? No. I don't know what interview Hosoda had but that's not the case."

I barely care about Digimon since I am not 10 years old anymore but did they forget about the second season or what? It wasn't very good but you can't pretend it didn't happen.

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>>155753419
Wasn't Hosada also the director of Our War Game? The one who assumed Taiora was the endgame?

>>155753503
They should because 02 is filled with plot holes and is terrible written dog shit. Instead they are only retconning part of it or are doing something that is partially rewriting it. All we have so far is there are chosen children around the world, Hikari's and Takeru's D3 and Dterminals, Ken disguise for Gennai, and seeing Daisuke die in the beginning.

It's not a second season by the way it's a full sequel series, so that would have made it easier to ignore.

Also
>I barely care about Digimon since I am not 10 years old
Cute

>>155747675
Fake and gay.

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>>155753815
Ever seen Kamen Rider Ryuki?

I expect Tri to send the same way

Beat the main threat and everything from the start of Tri is erased and 02's ending still holds.

>>155753503
Takeru and Hikari still have their D3, and the 02 DigiDestined still exist in tri: they jobbed to Alphamon.

It's just that the movie isn't about them. Also the ending is still canon.

>>155753665
Yes aka the only time that there has been evidence of a romance that was a misunderstanding on Hosoda's part. If I recall correctly Kakudo was furious about this since it wasn't in the show and Kakudo insists it's always been obvious that Sorato was going to happen, even though it never was.

Also the dub overplayed the romance angle there, it's more he flustered her by fucking up typing the end of his email and she didn't know how to respond since she thought this was a very sudden attempt at conveying romantic feelings. Taichi and how he acted during the movie showed he was purely embarrassed because he thought signing the email that way was embarrassing and made him look stupid, not like he stammered his letter and accidently confessed like the dub depicts it.

Fuck that dub like turning the Tachikawa name plate into a fucking Valentine from Jou.

>>155753954
Doesn't change the fact the 02 kids and digimon are gone and nobody seems to care or even be aware of them. Same with all those tons of worldwide digidestineds from 02.

>>155753815

Is he dead or just injured? Daisuke is alive though by the time we get to 30 years later (or whatever the epilogue).

Point being you can try to redeem 02 (and yeah it was badly written though so was Adventure you were just a child so didn't care at the time), but writing out Daisuke+the Gang is just dumb. I want to see all the 02 kids grown up.

>>155754040
The funny thing is the japanese fans for the most part want Sora with Tai.

They had pollings prior to Tri being released, one of them was a relationship poll. Taiora won second place behind Takari, Sorato didn't even place.

Suck it Kakudou.

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>>155754043
>but writing out Daisuke+the Gang is just dumb. I want to see all the 02 kids grown up.

The problem was writing for the 02 kids has always proven ineffective. Daisuke's development ban left him ineffective and uninteresting. Everybody hated Miyako, and Iori was just boring.

>>155753954

Yeah I know they exist but the fact they all neatly "jobbed to alphamon" while all the 01 kids are just fine just implies (to me) that the writers are trying to pretend they don't exist at all. And yeah its kind of dumb why not have an integrated team?

>>155754040

lol the English dub is hilarious. They knew they were working on a cartoon for little kids.

>>155754041
Because tri isn't about them, so the 02 kids get fucked into the sidelines except for a little of Ken (and not even him, just the Digimon Kaiser disguise). And the worldwide digidestined are even more irrelevant, so fuck them even more.

The ending is still canon, tho.

>>155754178

Ken was probably one of the more popular characters in either series, at least stateside (and apparently in Japan too if I read your chart right). And I have a soft spot for Daisuke's issues too, he's a fun kid.

Point being, the answer to these issues for the 02 kids would be to give them the development they are lacking. Make Iori more interesting and Miyako more likable.

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>Make Iori more interesting and Miyako more likable.

That's just not physically possible.

>>155754043
>Is he dead or just injured? Daisuke is alive though by the time we get to 30 years later (or whatever the epilogue).
It's unclear what's gonna happen with the 02 kids. They originally said the epilogue will happen but honestly statements at the start of a series don't always mean anything and that could change especially since 02 merch and Blu-ray sales showed Toei once again no one likes 02 except for Ken and Imperialdramon.

>Point being you can try to redeem 02
That's a very difficult task, especially in an already bloated cast.

>(and yeah it was badly written though so was Adventure you were just a child so didn't care at the time),
Hey guess what, I rewatched both in the past few years originally liking both. Adventure holds up extremely well when not held back by the dub and had some excellent characterization and storytelling. Adventures biggest problem is an extremely bloated cast which means some characterizations don't get too much screen time and the Digimon are pretty flat characters that just function as accessories to their tamer. 02 held up like a wet paper bag and is one of the worst things I've sat through.

>but writing out Daisuke+the Gang is just dumb. I want to see all the 02 kids grown up.
To do that you would require rewriting the entire fucking cast. Daisuke literally was barred from being developed, like an actual producer made it a rule he wasn't allowed to develop as a character. Ken lost any and all personality when he stopped being Kaiser and just became a power up for Daisuke. Miyako is a loud selfish cunt who is not only useless but also legitimately a bad person. Iori didn't even have a personality so I can't comment on him. They need full rewrites.

02 is a bad sequel and a bad show all around, they will probably be addressed in the final movie but honestly it would be better if they just get retconned. You may want them to come back but you are an extreme minority, especially among the more diehard fanbase.

>there are faggots who still hope 02 will be retconned out
Accept it, retards, and learn to live with it. It isn't even the worst Digimon series anyway.

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>>155754688
>It isn't even the worst Digimon series anyway.

You'll need to convince me otherwise, since it not only sucked on its own but retroactively spoils the first season.

>>155754562

Iori goes through puberty. He still does his kendo, keeps his stoic manly personality though obviously matured, and no fucking bowl cut. The youngest but also the most grave/serious. Voila 10x more interesting or at least watchable.

Miyori? Idk that's what professional writers are for. Point being mistakes should be fixed, not swept under the rug like the viewers are all amnesiac 7 year olds who don't remember 02.

>>155754688
Taikari is canon REEEEEEEEEE

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>>155754803
No it isn't.

>>155754688
>It isn't even the worst Digimon series anyway.
That's some bold statement, mate.

>>155754803
>Taikari is canon
Yes, and?

>>155754301
>lol the English dub is hilarious
Retard alert. If you think fart jokes being stuffed into a mostly silent movie with hardly any discomfort, what happened with the original movie, you are what's wrong with western audiences.

>>155754406
>Ken was probably one of the more popular characters in either series,
Source: your ass

Taichi and Yamato have been consistently the most popular characters in the entire franchise to date. Ken is the only popular character from 02 though and that's why he had an onscreen speaking role in YH crossover arc unlike most characters. Ken however usually ranks like 5th best in popularity polls.

>And I have a soft spot for Daisuke's issues too, he's a fun kid.
What issues? He literally never had any issues and never developed to make him a "counterpoint to Ken and mirror how Ken gets a lot of character development."

>Point being, the answer to these issues for the 02 kids would be to give them the development they are lacking. Make Iori more interesting and Miyako more likable.
That requires ENTIRE rewrites. The movie would have to revolve around them and fix them. Why would they bother doing this when this is a celebration of ADVENTURE, not 02?

>>155754742
The only series that's as bad is Young Hunters, and while Tagiru is the worst protagonist in the franchise I give the edge to 02 because at least YH is short.

>>155739755
Agreed.

>>155754742

How did 02 ruin the original? If anything it made the original look damn good by comparison. I remember sitting in my pjs watching the Fox Box or whatever and thinking "wow remember how Digimon used to have a real sense of adventure, when the kids were trapped in the Digital world with no hope of return? Remember when the majority characters had real internal problems beyond MOTD bs?" Made me like Digimon Adventure more.

Frontier was total ass, even from someone who at least was able to sit through 02 I couldn't sit through Frontier. Never watched any of the stuff beyond that because by then I was way too old anyway. Even Frontier maybe I was too old to be watching.

>>155754607

> Daisuke literally was barred from being developed, like an actual producer made it a rule he wasn't allowed to develop as a character.

Rules can be rewritten, they aren't unchangeable. Also this producer is apparently still around and apparently still enforcing rules? And doesn't want Daisuke to develop but doesn't mind Daisuke being written out?

Daisuke can still physically mature let me see older Daisuke. I bet he would be sporty and hot.

> Ken lost any and all personality when he stopped being Kaiser and just became a power up for Daisuke.

Totally disagree. If anything the Kaiser had no personality, Ken has it all because he needs to get over his past and his personal demons. He also ranks pretty well in popularity. I want to see grown up Ken. I bet he would be bookish and hot.

>Miyako is a loud selfish cunt who is not only useless but also legitimately a bad person

Bad people make interesting stories.

> Iori didn't even have a personality so I can't comment on him

Iori was the straight man, super mature in some ways (like being levelheaded) but still a child (having very shallow understanding of morality). If he was older and didn't have a bowl cut people would like him.

>>155755028
Nah, 02 was bad, though not as bad as people here make it seem. The thing is, it's fitted between the two best Digimon series, so it seems even worse in comparison.

>>155755028
>How did 02 ruin the original?

Myotismon? Comes back

Have to survive in an untamed wildness to become the heroes needed to save the world? Nah lets give 3 more kids Digivices and let them handle this in their free time.
Only 8 children can save the world? Surprise an entire army of digidestined around the world so you 8 aren't special afterall.

>>155754924
>Retard alert. If you think fart jokes being stuffed into a mostly silent movie with hardly any discomfort, what happened with the original movie, you are what's wrong with western audiences.

Oh no not "what's wrong with western audiences". Sorry "Western audiences" couldn't appreciate the famed subtlety of the great Nipponese classic "Digimon movie whatever".

Its a movie for children and you can tell the dubbers had fun with it.

>>155754924

>Source: your ass

BS, it even shows on the infographic on >>155754178 . Ken is very popular. He has an interesting story and is the only 02 character (including Kari and TK) with much of an arc. Also 5th best is very good, you weirdo, since its ABOVE half of the 01 kids. So have Sora or some shit die instead of Ken if you just want to write off unpopular characters.

>What issues? He literally never had any issues and never developed to make him a "counterpoint to Ken and mirror how Ken gets a lot of character development."

His issues are his extreme abrasiveness and inferiority complex.

>That requires ENTIRE rewrites.

No because people grow and mature within and certainly between different series. There are no characterization issues written when a character is like 9 years old that you cannot reform as the character gets older. The only way you cannot know this is if you are literally 9 years old yourself, and in that case you shouldn't be on /a/ you should be in school doing your homework.

>ADVENTURE, not 02?

Uh, retard? 02's full name is Digimon ADVENTURE 02. Its just the 2nd part of Adventure. It sucks but burrowing your head in the sand is only going to make it worse.

>>155755181

How does "Myotismon comes back" ruin Adventure?

>Have to survive in an untamed wildness to become the heroes needed to save the world? Nah lets give 3 more kids Digivices and let them handle this in their free time.

This doesn't ruin Adventure, this makes Adventure look very good by comparison. The 02 kids end up looking like total whiny weenies compared to the veteran survivalists of Adventure.

>Only 8 children can save the world? Surprise an entire army of digidestined around the world so you 8 aren't special afterall.

This might hurt Adventure slightly, but is more than made up for by the above.

>>155755028
>How did 02 ruin the original?
They literally devalue all their accomplishments. The dark masters turn out to be nothing compared to the current threat, the kids ultimately achieved nothing since Vamdemon was creating all these problems and both worlds were still in peril possibly even more so due to the original kids not properly killing him. You then have the old cast come back to tell the new kids, and the audience, that the new kids are way better than the old cast. Re-watch the first episode, it's disgusting how much Taichi praises and rewards Daisuke for being a petulant and incompetent child.

Combine this with how much of a mess of half baked ideas that don't finish their execution, plot holes galore, no character development and you make a steaming pile of shit. You are openly admitting you regard 02 and it's characters the way you do because nostalgia. If you re-watch both shows Adventure holds up while 02 doesn't.

Frontier is very hit and miss, more miss really. Wouldn't call it bad but wouldn't call it good. Savers is one of the best shows in the franchise, Xros is a lot of fun and a solid show, and Young Hunters is aids.

>>155755348
Just because something is made to be family friendly doesn't indicate it lacks in quality. Just because you perceive it as childish doesn't mean it can't touch on mature subjects or have good writing/execution. The original Digimon Adventure movie is a very slow paced monster movie with beautiful animation direction, and Our War Game has one of the most tense climaxes in anime films I've seen.

Also 02 is connected but it is a separate series not a second season like you keep saying. It has a very different crew working behind it and it's very clear that's the case. Either way what people like is Adventure, not 02. It's the same as people who like the original trilogy and not the prequel films of Star Wars, you are able to make the distinction especially when there's a clear line of demarcation between the two

>>155739169
So... What digimon partner would have the children of the protagonist?My bet is:
>Tai's child have a Toyagumon
>Sora/Ichida Son have a Dracumon
>Sora/Ichida Daughter have a Falcomon or Floramon
>Takeru and Hikari's first son have an elecmon or Demidevimon
>Takeru and Hikari's second son have Pidomon
>Mimi(and Koshiro) son have an Aruraumon or Floramon
>Koshiro(And Mimi) daughter have a Kunemon
>Jo's son have a Crabmon
>Daisuke's son have a snowagumon
>Ken and Miyako's sons will have gizamon, Flybeemon and allomon/Muchomon
>Iori son have an Armadillomon

>>155756669

lol this is the next level of weebery. Good for you.

>>155748590
Milleniummon hasn't been relevant in forever.

>>155757158
He shows up every once in a while, like how Zeed was the end result of Dark Xros in the Xros Wars manga.

>>155753379
Orcusmon

>>155757288
That manga was a clusterfuck of cross-series cameos and had less distribution than the anime which was the main component of the series

>>155757626
Did overlapping the franchise as a multiverse better than YH did, at least

>>155754040
>it's always been obvious that Sorato was going to happen
Everyone though except Sorato director

>>155747773
What do I do, /a/? I hated Oreimo but this and the thread last week gave me a shit eating grin the whole week.

>>155759708
You didn't hate Oreimo because of the incest, you hated it because it was a shit series with shit characters.

>>155759708
Revere the purest form of love.

>>155753954

How the fuck did Imperialdramon job to Alphamon?

>>155761138
It has a power up. The most powerful one: A writer needing to write out characters that no one likes.

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>I must be the only person in the entire world who liked 02.
>Maybe even a little more than Adventure

Anything new in that interview?

>>155761409
You can't be the only one, there are plenty of people with unbelievably shit taste.

>>155761138
Because Alphamon is way stronger than Imperialdramon? Not to mention Imperialdramon has one of the absolute worst win loss records in the franchise.

>>155762887

But Paladin mode!

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>>155754742
Should I remind you of this abomination were digimon suffer same-face?

>>155763055
No Omegamon around while Alphamon can go Alphamon Ouryuken effortlessly

>>155761409
it's okay anon, I like 02 too.
not MORE than Adventure, but more than Frontier and Xros for sure