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>Asukafags
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Do you understand why this thread didn't work, toiletfag?
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>>155704903
I like both in some way.
Asuka for her insecurities and sexual confusion.
Rei I don't know why I like her.
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>>155705135
>toiletfag
But I don't even like Asuka
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MIRACLE OF THE UNIVERSE
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>>155706524
This
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Rei is just a robot. She simply follows orders and has no personality of her own.

Asuka has her issues and temper like a normal human being. That's why she's lovable. She has an actual identity and character.
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>>155709228
>Rei is just a robot and has no personality

Are you brain damaged ¿?
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>>155653677
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>>155710432
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>>155710967
Oooh. Thanks for making these :)
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>>155709348

Say that Rei has no personality is being an asshole but it's right that she has a pathetic sense of autonomy - and it's normal and part of the plot and nature of the character - and she's a sumise "girl" who defines her actions and motivations from what others - Shinji and Gendo - want
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>>155710967
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>>155711037
>who defines her actions and motivations from what others - Shinji and Gendo - want

That's not true though, it's a common misconception.
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>>155710432
>>155710967
>>155711365
She has a good story about a being that has a false body and a false soul, becoming an individual through the instrumentality of her links and relationships with others. She wants to break free of her fate and actually manges to do that in the end of evangelion. If that is not character development and personality, then i dont know what is.
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>>155711522
She only merged with Lilith because Shinji was calling her.
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>>155711522
Not him but admires Gendo and Shinji to great lengths while Rei II was getting ready to die against Ramiel

Only when Rei II heard Shinji wanted her to be happy she became something for a bit, but was completely sidelined by Asuka's introduction up until Asuka's mind rape.

Then Rei III was bullshit, as she managed to dislike Gendo and not care for Shinji defeating any growth Rei II had as an intresting character
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>>155704903
I try to like Asuka, but she's just too self centered and kind of a bitch. Aside from being good looking, what do you honestly see in her?
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>>155704903
Rei wouldn't want you to make threads like this.
This is more Asuka's MO
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>>155711696
>>155711736
If I tell you that you still have it wrong, will you be upset?

NGE shows you that Rei's loyalty go too far. The original anon said that " she's a sumise "girl" who defines her actions and motivations from what others".

But in this very scene, Rei declines the idea that she pilots EVA because Gendo wants her to very explicitly.

Thus the assertation is wrong, and you've got alot of good character bits to learn from Rei if you rewatch with this in mind.
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>>155711793
She's alright if you'll try to understand her and become her genuine friend.
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>>155711841
>>>>>>Rebuilds

You lost all value anon
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>>155711863
You can't be friends with a fictional character.
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>>155711958
get out of /a/
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>>155711952
If you were serious, you'd know that she says the same thing in NGE. This was just the first picture I could find.
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Reminder that Shinji is used goods
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>>155712083
>>155711841
Here's a transcript I googled for episode 6
Shinji: Why are you doing this?

Rei: Because it's my bond.

Shinji: Bonds?

Rei: Yes, bonds.

Shinji: Bonds to my father?

Rei: To all people.

Shinji: You are strong, Ayanami.

Rei: I have nothing else.

Shinji: You have nothing else...?

Rei: It's time.
Here we go.
Good bye...
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>>155712159
Something like that, yeah. So it's not for Shinji's father she pilots, but because it's because of her duty to the people.

This also explains why Rei is shown to defy Gendo when fighting Angels, because she wants to get the job done not simply listen to Gendo.
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>"the secret Eva thread"
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>>155711863
Bu the same goes for everyone else, as long as you try to be their friends. Rei would be pretty good as is, wouldn't she? She's a nice girl that doesn't berate you, and she doesn't like others berating people she cares about either.
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>>155712159
I think the Rei=Doll is because she doesn't have anything else like she does state even if she's not being controlled, she's still not a "person" with hopes/dreams that make up a person
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>>155712611
The same actually goes for all the people. You just need to try and understand them and show some genuine care, that's it, that's what people truly need. Same for Rei, yes.
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>>155712659
Not everyone. Then there's only so much imagination you can do.

>>155712647
Rei wants to protect the smiles of everyone. 10/10 Bodyguard. The Rei=Doll thing comes because Asuka fans are bitter that Rei isn't a doll but Asuka is.
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>>155712726
>Rei wants to protect the smiles of everyone
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>>155712726
Asuka isn't a doll, she's a person with feelings and fears.
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>>155712802
She's a doll, NERV's doll to be precise.
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>>155712923
By that standart Rei is a NERV's doll as well.
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>>155712765
>not wanting hundreds of naked girls around you

He was just a fag
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>>155712957
She would be, if not for the fact that Rei is not dependent on NERV mentally.
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>>155713004
See >>155712159
>Shinji: Why are you doing this?

>Rei: Because it's my bond.

>Rei: I have nothing else.
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>>155712765
In her own, weirdly and goddless-like motherly way, by shoving everyone into her womb where she can mother them for eternity.
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>>155713045
That does't mean dependence. Rei without piloting the EVA would still retain her sense of individuality, but that isn't true for Asuka.

It's true, Rei does think she has nothing else but this, but if she were to lose that, she'd still be herself and still carry on.
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>>155713058
So Rei isn't a doll, but more of a "host" for Lillith right?
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>>155713094
>she'd still be herself and still carry on
the things that keep her up are actually Eva and Gendo's care. In a flashback of Unit 00's test launch, Ritsuko refers to it as being the result of pilot's mental instability, which means Rei feels unneeded and abandoned. Later on, as Gendo saved her and led her to believe he cares about her and genuinely needs her, she successfully passes the test. We also see her looking at Gendo's glasses in the cockpit, as a reminder for her to be mentally stable. Asuka didn't have any seemingly genuine caring for her, at least as she saw it. So if it wasn't for Gendo, Rei would go insane. It's the same with all the characters actually.
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>>155713218
This. It's why she autistically cares for the glasses so much, it was Gendo literally reaching out to her specifically

Every pilot struggles with replacablity when ironically Rei is literally able to be replaced. Rei II is best Rei and only good Rei II
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>>155713107
No, Rei is Lilith herself. They removed Lilith's soul, put it in a human body and called it Rei.

>>155713218
>the things that keep her up are actually Eva and Gendo's care
Well, what exactly is there to back this up?

Because while Rei was saved by Gendo, everyone who watched Evangelion knows that Gendo is just using Rei and will abandon her. Rei herself said this, so even she knew.

>Asuka didn't have any seemingly genuine caring for her, at least as she saw it
Why do you lie to yourself like this? You say "as she saw it", and that inherently invalidates your argument. Asuka had a lot of people that cared about her, more than Rei. Even if Asuka was being manipulated as well.

Truth is that Asuka had a relatively normal life compared to both Rei and Shinji.
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>>155713346
So Rei is literally a host?
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>>155713384
No, Rei is literally Lilith.
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>>155713346
>Well, what exactly is there to back this up?
My previous post? And this post? >>155713045
>Because while Rei was saved by Gendo, everyone who watched Evangelion knows that Gendo is just using Rei and will abandon her. Rei herself said this, so even she knew.
Yet she saw it as a positive thing for herself and genuinely liked it, since he was the first person to do so. Even in the moments of her death she sees Gendo's smiling face.
>Truth is that Asuka had a relatively normal life compared to both Rei and Shinji.
>normal life
Training your whole childhood to pilot a giant robot after seeing your insane mother hang herself when you were 4 years old is normal?
Rei here is in a different situation compared to her since she never even knew what it is to have someone to love you (especially a mother, the first person you recognize in your life) so much and then lose him in such a disturbing way, shattering your concept of love on the way.
>Asuka had a lot of people that cared about her, more than Rei.
None of them actually cared for her genuinely, like her mother would do, (and that's the kind of care she seeks, along with Shinji) and she knew it perfectly well. Not even Misato, not Shinji. No one. No one even came to visit her or tried to find her after episode 22 because they genuinely cared. She was truly alone.
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>>155709228
Yeah, yeah you love 3DPD we all already know.
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>>155713618
She was a massive galloping cunt who at no point ever attempted to be nice, friendly, or connect to fucking anyone.

Not only that, but she's been outright useless as a pilot and an adverseral antagonist that helped drive the actually useful pilots to distraction.

No one knows her history save for a few people, and those few people never gave a shit.

You expecting people who have only just met her to love, care, or even tolerate her is ridiculous and childish wish fulfillment.
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>>155705135
>toiletfag
Asuka hair's the same color as my shit.
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>>155713413
Lilith's host, you mean.
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>>155714065
She's Lilith. Why do you think she keeps the form of Rei afterwards?
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>>155714211
Huh?
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>>155704903
>Niggers
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>>155713618
>My previous post? And this post? >>155713045
Both are debunked as inaccurate. Rei is able to separate herself from piloting Evangelion and her inner thoughts don't relate to it either. Rei is all about the "I am me" line of thought, not the "I am x who wants to do x".

>Yet she saw it as a positive thing for herself and genuinely liked it, since he was the first person to do so. Even in the moments of her death she sees Gendo's smiling face.
Sure, hence the development of Rei. These are complex feelings, and even if Gendo is using Rei, even he has a soft spot for Rei, something Fuyutsuki points out in the series. The same goes for Rei, she looks to Gendo as a father but at the same time, acknowledges that he is also the one keeping her down. Rei's development is about ackowledging these things.

>None of them actually cared for her genuinely, like her mother would do,
They raised her well and gave her a normal upbringing, and they even talk on the phone. That's far more than Shinji ever got, not to mention Rei who was raised in a lab and strangled.

Asuka did have genuine love, and you can't really argue that Asuka's mother "would have loved her more", considering that she was actually the one who put her in that situation in the first place. There's no point in imagining "what if" here, what happened happened.
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>>155714423
Rei had romantic feelings for Gendo, not father
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>>155714258

Through unknown reasons, rei carries the soul of lilith. Thats why she doesnt quite understand humanity.

Kaworu carries the soul of adam, agains dunno why. Unlike rei he knows whats going on.
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>>155714473
He raised her, so that's like a father for her.
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>>155714509
Their relationship had sexual stuff to it so not really
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>>155714563
No it didn't. You're thinking about when Asuka begged to get fucked by Kaji.
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>>155714258
>Huh
This picture here. Lilith is given a human body, and when she gets back her real body later, she changes it to her new form which she recognizes herself as now, Rei Ayanami.

>>155714509
Ignore >>155714473 , it's a shitposting Kaworufag that trolls because he can't deal with how bad of a character Kaworu is.
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>>155714605
Gendo was touching Rei's boobs and body and looking at her naked all the time, yes it did you liar
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>asukafags
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>>155714645
>Ignore >>155714473 , it's a shitposting Kaworufag that trolls because he can't deal with how bad of a character Kaworu is.
Ah, figures. Thanks. Hope they don't ruin this one as well.
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>>155714645
Sounds fake
The angel from the show turned into Rei too so not evidence. Just a host.
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>>155714647
So did Shinji and Ritsuko. Rei doesn't care much about showing herself naked, she isn't shy at all. Nothing sexual here, not from Rei's side at the very least.
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>>155714718
But Rei was moaning when Gendo touched it, so sexual.
Obviously not the first time either.
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>>155714694
It's from the movie itself. Rei enters Lilith, and she even says "I'm home".
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>>155714768
Your father touched your mother as well, do you think your mother is a whore?
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>22 IPs
>71 replies
Reifags apparently need to samefag like crazy to keep their bait thread alive. Sad!
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>>155714768
Moaning? No, she was showing a pretty uncomfortable face making grimaces. I think you're fanwanking too much, it's not explicit or implicit, compare to say Asuka asking Kaji to kiss her and so on while opening her blouse.
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>>155714875
Reifags are acoustic.
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>>155714875
It's sad that it's only this one Reifag that talks about and defends Rei. No one else on /a/ cares about the doll.
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>>155714509
>>155714563
who says it wasn't both?
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>>155714885
>let's him touch her body for minutes on end
>gendo nor rei look shocked when he does it so it's obviously not the first time
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>>155714984
>>155714957
>minutes on an end
Don't think so.
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>>155714957
Yeah, it was Usagi Drop relationship

>>155714885
script says moan, fanwank
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>>155714984
>even Rei's voice actress says Rei's perfect partner is Gendo
pottery
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>>155715020
Rewatch the movie, we see Rei accept the grope, a bunch of other scenes play and we don't come back to that scene until much later
Gendo has made his way to groping her vagina by then and she's still into it.
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>>155715055
Yeah, Lilith didn't look like Rei before so it's not her
Just a host
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>>155715021
>>155715045
>mad kaworufags

Please.
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>>155715057
He stops at her stomach, actually.
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>>155715106
>mad
>stating a fact is now madness
sasuga reifags
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>>155710432
>>155710967
>>155711365
These are really nice. Im keeping them.
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>>155715021
>>155715145
>thinking stating fanwank is fact
Sasuga kaworufags

again proving you're nothing more than cancer to this board.
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>>155715202
>fanwank
>stating what seiyuu said is now fanwank
sasuga reifags, can't accept the harsh reality as usual
get the fuck out of my board and never return
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>>155715057
Why are you making stuff up, exactly?
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>>155715255
I'm sure you understand that your fanwank regarding Rei and Gendo's relationship is what's being called out here, idiot. The original series Rei has this cleared up and presented nicely as well, plus EoE where she ruins his entire life and whatnot.

So what exactly makes you so butthurt anon?
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>>155715093
But that's the point..? Lilith didn't look like Rei before, but since Lilith has now become accustomed to being called and looking like Rei Ayanami, so she carries that with her to her old body when she returns.


>before
>ugly old angel man
>after
>cute little girl (huge)

Lilith did just what everyone else would have done.
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>>155715369
>butthurt
>me
But it's you who's butthurt
Keep'em coming, anon, I'm enjoying your cries
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Rei an emotionless husk of a human
Asuka is a bitch
Misato may aswell be a neet

there is no best girl in this anime they are all as shit as eachother stop fighting
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>>155715369
Like all other Rei-haters he's mad that Rei is great while his waifu/husbando isn't. That's why it needs to fanwank.
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Reminder that Rei needs to be spoonfed on her origins to understand herself
Reminder that she's a literal plot device, to whom author had no relation whatsoever
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>>155715570
Ah, I see.
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>>155715535
The only one that's true there is that Asuka is a bitch.

Rei has emotions and isn't a husk of a human, and Misato isn't a NEET she's a leader in an organization that's pivotal to the survival of the human race.

Sure Rei is cold, and sure Misato can be a slob, but that's hardly enough to be a NEET or have no emotions. But acting like a bitch, thinking like a bitch and bitching out like Asuka does, does make one a bitch.
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>>155715621
What a punchable face.
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>Reicucks are so insecure about their toilet waifu's supposed superiority they have to shitpost about it to remind those dang dirty Asukafags

Sad!
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>>155704903
>Rei isn't smug in canon
>Asuka is
kek
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Asukafags and Reifags alike have shit taste.

Misato forever.
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>>155704903
Rei is a shitty non-character.
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>>155716756
Rei is Reilevant, Asucan't match Rei ever.
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>>155716867
Rei is a toilet and a shit character.
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>野火:エヴァに乗りたーいっていう男の子がいっぱい出したでしょ。そういうのに、私、庵野さん悪意を持ってたのかなって。コミケ会場で「レイちゃんやっぱり包帯姿だよね」とか言ってる男とかの前を、私は呪詛しながら通り過ぎてたんですけど(笑)、庵野さんもそうに違いないと思ってたんですけど。

>Nobi: Haven't there been a lot of boys saying "I want to ride an Eva!"? And yet, I thought Anno-san might hold malice towards them. At Comiket, there were some men in front of me saying "Rei-chan definitely looks best in bandages!" and I just kept silently cursing at them while passing by. (laugh)

>庵野:うーん、いやけっこう。。。。ああでもそれは似てますよね。俺も「死んでしまえ」と思ってたんです。(一同笑)

>Anno: Hmm, that's a bit...Oh, but I have done similar things. I also thought "They should just die". (Everyone laughs)

-JUNE interview, 1996
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>>155704903
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Rei is the best girl though.
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To be honest, I like them both.
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>>155718731
Yeah, but one is better than the other. Rei is better than Asuka.
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>>155718874
They're totally incomparable though.
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>>155718918
Yeah, as in Rei is unfathomably much better than Asuka.
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>>155718698
>>155718874
>>155718973
toilet
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>>155705135
toilet? whut?
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>>155721458
It's the autistic Asukafag again.
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>>155711696
She merged with Lilith because her wish was to be with Shinji, she hinted that in Ep. 23.
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>>155704903
Legit question, will this ever end?
I can't think of another matter as trivial as this that has been so vehemently argued about for 22 years now. What's even fueling this fire anymore? There hasn't even been good Eva content in 18 years.
I have a clear preference myself but I'm not going to start a fight about it, so why do so many people care so much?
Am I the crazy one?
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>>155704903
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>>155723304
You're not crazy. It's the Asuka fans who are crazy, there would be no fight if not for their autistic hatred against Rei for being better. They prefer Asuka for their own reasons, but hate the fact that Asuka is inferior to Rei in the canon.
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>>155723304
>Legit question, will this ever end?
This will end when waifufags will get btfo by the master in final.

Mark my words the pain and outrage in /a/ would reach heaven and hell and it'd be hilarious.
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>>155723566
What if nobody wins? What if it is just another mindfuck ending, and nobody get together with Shinji?

Or what if Rei wins? Asukafags will just ignore the rebuilds and start praising Retake.
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>>155723537
How can anyone say that one is objectively better when it comes down to pure personal preference?
Anyone who can accept that people can have differing opinions is the true autist here man.
Shit, you turned my completely impartial question into an excuse to push your own opinion as fact and to throw shade on anyone who disagrees. To top it off you answered the rhetorical part, not the actual question.
People just need to learn to let go dude.
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>>155723833
I'm sorry, in what world is ending up with a shitdick like Shinji considered victory?
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>>155723833
>What if nobody wins?
That's highly unlikely.
>Or what if Rei wins?
Incest end? I don't think so.
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>>155723914
Typical waifufag. Disgusting.
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>>155724095
Sorry for thinking literally any character deserves better than Shinji.
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>>155724170
Nah, you just can't self-insert in Shinji so you don't want him to get your waifu.
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>>155724095
And thanks for answering the question bud.
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>>155723855
>How can anyone say that one is objectively better when it comes down to pure personal preference?

Because you can prefer the Wright Brother's air plane to a modern jet fighter, but at the end of the day the more capable air plane is the modern jet fighter. Modern schools teach children that "no one's opinion is wrong", but that is a lie. Because of that, some people mask their delusions as "opinions" in order to make then unassailable.

Then no, it will never end because we're at an impasse. Rei is canonically better than Asuka, but Asuka is the directors favorite and will therefore always be in favor for new works.
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>>155724216
I'm a huge loser, self-inserting would be easy as shit for me.
But that's not why I watch shows, because I'm an adult and I can accept that certain characters are shitty people, regardless of any similarity to myself.
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>>155704903
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>>155724316
People aren't machines with measurable statistics dude, that's not how creating a character works.
If that's all you can see when you look at someone, real or not, that's pretty worrying dude.
Also, can you define "canonically better" for me please?
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>>155724323
Oh I see now. So you hate yourself and thus project that on Shinji since you see yourself in him. Great.
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>>155724517
You can twist my words all you like bud, it doesn't make Shinji a better person and it certainly doesn't make getting together with the MC a more valid way a determining the best character.
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>>155724454
It's a fictional character, and even if you hate Michael Phelps more than yourself, he's a better swimmer than you.
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>>155724039
Nobody won in both the tv shows finale and EOE. If it has another mindfuck ending, then there wont be a winner. Or if it has an ambiguous ending? Or what if Gendo wins, brings back Yui and they become a family again? Or what about a happy ending, with everyone being just friends? Or shinji dying? Or anything other than a romance ending?

And Rei is not incest, since she doesnt have enough of Yui's dna to make her a full blood relative, like a mother or a sister. She is a cousin at best.
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>>155724742
Okay, but that doesn't make him "better" than me, which is where this whole argument comes from.
So again, could someone please define "canonically better" for me.
Are you trying to say one is a better pilot than the other? That one got higher test marks than the other? Use your words friend.
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>>155723914
It will solve the Asuka vs Rei fight.
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>>155724855
But why? All that shows is who Shinji prefers.
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>>155724454
We don't have to be, it's just like the airplane example. Both I and you know that a modern jet fighter is a superior air vehicle than the wright brothers aircraft, but that doesn't stop me from preferring the one that's objectively worse.

>Also, can you define "canonically better" for me please?
Rei is the God of Mankind. She is it's progenitor, put in human form to suffer as a human, and eventually claims her original goddess form back in the end. From a human perspective, Rei is the everlasting divine while Asuka is the frail human.

Rei suffers, gets hurt, but she has that spark of eternity in her which makes her defy even death.
When Asuka suffers, she breaks. She has no proper individuality because her life is a lie she cannot escape.

There is a big difference between the two. Rei prevails and develops positively, while Asuka fails and regresses into a comatose state of decay.

In this way, Rei is canonically better than Asuka. You can also claim that Rei is more virtuous than Asuka.
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>>155723833
>Or what if Rei wins?
She wont win, kill yourself now.
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>>155724735
And who determines whether he's a good person or not? You? But you said yourself that you're a huge loser.
Btw I never even implied that:
>getting together with the MC a valid way at determining the best character
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>>155724897
If shinji picks asuka, then asukafags will forever say that asuka won. If Rei wins, asukafags will ignore it and claim that shinji has shit taste.
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>>155724842
>Okay, but that doesn't make him "better" than me, which is where this whole argument comes from.

It does make him a better swimmer, and that's all it takes for opponents to hate him. Perhaps a poor example, but it gets the point across. Rei sees more success than Asuka in NGE, and is even someone who can be revived from death, and she's also Lilith, a goddess. Where Asuka buckles, Rei still stands strong, and so on.

Rei sacrifices herself and gives of herself to help others even if they don't deserve it.
Asuka attacks others and blames everyone else when she fails, and she even kills others with her attitude. There's just many many of these papercuts and wounds that make Asuka fans butthurt.
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>>155724792
Yeah, you're right. I'll take everything you listed except
>another mindfuck ending, everyone being just friends
We already had the first one and these are supposed to be rebuilds. And the second one is truly retarded.

And Rei is still a blood relative and literally reminds everyone of Yui, that would disgusting.
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>>155724922
Sorry, no can do. I discovered a while back, that I am immune to cyanide.
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>>155709348
It always gets me she couldn't bring herself to hurt Toji.
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>>155725275
Truly the best girl, Rei is.
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>>155725121
Being a Reifag, you probably poisoned it instead.
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>>155723833
>Retake
>Asuka is either easy AF or a total unruly bitch
>Shinji is an angel and kills Kaworu without a second thought
>Rei kills herself for no reason

The only good thing that had was saving Toji
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>>155714258
I never thought I'd see the day and age where we reignite the monophysite controversy again, much less on a Tibetan Sand Mandala board.
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>>155725496
Everything you just described is every Asukafag wet dream.
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>>155724920
You know what, that's fair man. This is well explained and proves that Rei is indeed the more powerful of the two.
However on the flip side you could also say that the fact Asuka managed to persevere and hold her own while just being a mere human makes her that much more impressive.
It's been a little while so don't hold me to this, but doesn't Rei get injured and 'die' way more in the battles than Asuka does, and doesn't she defeat less angels?
In the end that doesn't really matter though since power and success aren't everything, and really "all around better" is a subjective measurement. All I know is that if I had to hang out with one I know who I'd choose, because Asuka is more fun and more interesting, in my eyes at least.
God, I can't believe I got wrapped up in this again.
There simply isn't an answer to an argument as broad as this.
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>>155725586
I'm an Asukafag but I know shit storytelling
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>>155725586
I do enjoy the thought of Rei killing herself.
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>>155725652
>However on the flip side you could also say that the fact Asuka managed to persevere and hold her own while just being a mere human makes her that much more impressive.

Well that's the thing, we can't say that she does. She doesn't persevere, but rather she is carried by everyone else, notably by Rei and Misato. Rei saves her from Arael, Armisael and then later resurrects her soul in End of Evangelion. Misato shelters Asuka and takes care of her, and makes sure she is carried and clothed and then put in EVA02.

Also you remember wrong, sort of. Rei takes more battle damage, but mostly because she puts herself in the line of fire to protect the rest. It's an ongoing theme for the character, the protector that shields the rest. This means Rei incurs damage, but Rei never goes comatose does she?

Even if an Asuka fans trick him/herself into thinking that "no one is all round better", the facts are that it's a still a lie. The Asuka fan will still be bitter about Rei's canonical superiority. This leads to doujins like Re-Take, like some other anons are discussing.

In this doujin, Asuka obviously gets the Shinji while Rei hangs herself, and instead of Rei being the "observing god figure" like in episode 1, Asuka is now watching Shinji instead. Rei's original character was in a word, awesome, something End of Evangelion is testament to. Great imagery, bandages, lances, eyepatches, Rei had it all.

Look at this picture. Rei's superiority cuts so deep into the Asukafag psyche that these wars will never end. They saw Rei in all her glory, but got hard for Asuka, and thus began to hate out of envy. Now in Rebuild Asuka is half-angel like Rei and even has a -nami name.
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>>155726019
Asuka is slowly turning into Rei (aesthetically) and Asuka fans are loving it. Evangelion sure is a special place.
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>>155726019
This is the most autistic thing I've ever read in my life

Congratulations
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>>155726869
They just need to fuse together already.
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>>155727001
Butthurt Asukafag hit by the facts detected.

>>155726869
Well they were always envious of Rei and wanted a piece of her success.
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>>155727043
No seriously anon I believe you have autism

No one should go to that great lengths hating another fictional character
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Rei scares the fucking shot out of me. How the fuck can you guys love a clone that turns into a giant Ange that has a giant kawuro portruding from it's abdomen and it then 'rots' and splits in half?
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We've spent 21 years debating over which animated middle schooler is a better Waifu.

What the fuck?
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>>155727154
You're a butthurt Asukafag, I don't hate any of the characters. I hit an NERV and you're rationalizing.
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>>155727252
How can you not? What are you, some sort of pussy?

Embrace your fears anon. Rei is awesome, she is frightening, cute, beautiful and strong at the same time. There is no wonders Asuka fans are driven mad, how can they compete without cooking the books?
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>>155706023
>>155713928
kys rei shitter
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>>155727463
And she look like a toilet
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>>155727398
No seriously writing 5 paragraphs describing how bad a fanfic is, and going into describe how you imagine non official figures will affect their psych is nothing short of being simply autistic
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>>155727787
The actual description is just a sentence long, and you're just an Asukafag that's butthurt because I hit a NERV. Every post you make proves it.
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>>155727463
Okay she might be a qt and she does give me a frightened boner but she isn't EMOTIONALLY complex enough like Asuka nor does she have a fucked up mind.

Plus, Reifags often claim that she is an enigma. That was the case until the series revealed that she was a clone whereas Asuka remains a mystery to us that we have to understand. Her real beauty is how she finds a complex and fucked up girl under the pretense of a bitchy red head.
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>>155727929
Rei is a more complex character though, and Asuka is zero mystery at all. I don't know where you get that nonsense from.
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>>155728023

>Rei is a more complex character though, and Asuka is zero mystery at all.

I don't know where you get that nonsense from.
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>>155728129
NGE.
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>>155712765
I love that scene because while everyone else is seeing the person they love the most, Shigeru saw what was really going on.
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>Rei is a sweet and lovely innocent girl

Nope, not Rei 1, at least. Kid is fucking evil.
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>>155728598
>>155728201

Remember a certain liver Ikari had?
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>>155712726
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>>155713413
>Because a thing always stays as it is initially created.

People and things change, bruh.
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>>155723429
GO TO BED ANDY
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At the end of EoE when Shinji and Rei are melded together, does that technically count as them fucking?
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>reifags and Asukafags have been doing this for 20 years
>this thread is indistinguishable from any other
>no one will learn anything from ANY of this
>this shit will go on for years to come
Holy fucking shit you guys need to fucking stop
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>>155731182
The next thread will be the one that finally resolves this issue by agreeing that Asuka is best girl. I'm sure of it.
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>>155731335
Yeah well keep calling them toiletfags and posting smug Asuka images, I'm sure that will win Reifags over
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>>155731383
This is a war of attrition.
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>>155731383
>toiletfags
Easily one of the worst memes to spawn from this hellhole.
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Wasn't a big theme of Eva trying to understand one another?
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Reifags jerk off to Mogudan doujins everyday.
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Asuka fans all have oedipus complexes
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