Why couldn't she just be honest with her feelings?

>>155667999

because women

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>>155667999
She is shy and barely talks with people.
She was always honest with her music though.

>>155667999
Because shit show.

>>155667999

Because only two people in the world gave her the time of day, and she saw Haruki and Setsuna getting along really well, so she didn't want to hurt Setsuna and thought she was too trash for a nice guy like Haruki anyway.

>>155671912
Basically, Yukino/Yui/Hachiman

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>"Don't cry, not in front of the girl you threw away"

;_;

was I the only one who fapped like crazy at all those delicious tears scenes? I cant be the only one right?

>>155672138
Yeah don't worry, the world is full of sick fucks like you.

>>155672020
>Yukino/Yui/Hachiman
They will never be as close as Haruki, Setsuna and Kazusa.

>>155672203
Theres nothing sick about being sexually aroused by emotional breakdowns.

>those squeals during the sex scene in the VN

I got a heart boner from Kazusa and Haruki saying they loved each other as they were making desperate, passionate, love.

Also pretty sure Kazusa wanted Haruki to hurt her so she's feel it?

>>155672225

And all because 10 years prior, Rina Ogata recorded White album, and then Setsuna would sing it, and it would draw Haruki to Setsuna on the roof, and Kazusa would play it on her Piano to teach him how to git gud at the Guitar.

>>155672269

What happens with the red hair route? What is the drama?

>>155672443

I've only read the Introductory Chapter, I wouldn't say it's any one girl's route since you have no choice on who Haruki falls in love with, but it's the same as the anime pretty much.

Pretty pumped for Concluding Chapter though, a bit worried there's too many female routes though, I don't care about othergirls I just care about Setsuna, Haruki and Kazusa.

>impossibly beautiful girl is unpopular just because she's autistic

Why do Japanese writers think readers will believe this?

Beautiful girls are always popular no matter what.

>>155672269

When he takes Kazusa into his room and says 'My mom isn't home, I'd still do this even if she was, though'

>>155672659

She's unpopular because she actively pushes people away, including Haruki. He only won his way into her heart through his perseverance and his genuine care for her.

>>155672746
>She's unpopular because she actively pushes people away

And skips class, or sleeps all day when she does attend class. To be honest she has a sweet ass life.

>>155671912
;_;

I would very much like it if the webm anon from yesterday managed to make a webm of this whole reconciliation scene >>155672131

What scene made you realize Kazusa is the best girl?

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>>155673402

When she got ill and still insisted on tutoring Haruki.

That and the fist bump, shows she's not just Haruki's soulmate, but also his friend.

>>155673402
None, because Setsuna is the best.

>>155673402
The scene where they rehearsed in her house.

>>155673503

>The mentor/student relationship they have

:3

>guy who can barely play chords learns to shred a jazz guitar solo in one month

yeah nah

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>>155667999
That is not the tsundere way.

>>155673402

When she and Haruki where able to connect to each other through a wall because of music. I mean that right there should have been a colossal flag as to how shit was going down and who he really belongs with.

>>155674714

He had a fucking mini chopin tutoring him, and she worked him like 10 hours a day, every day, non stop.

>>155674742

Not only can you, but you should, because WA1 is garbage.

>>155667999
This series fills me with a mixture of hope and despair. On the one hand such powerful feelings of love and trust are a beauty to behold but on the other and I cannot grasp how someone could ever feel that way for another person and highly doubt that anything like this has ever happened outside of extremely rare cases.

>>155674797
None of it is relatable unless you're a musician. To a non-musician, music is nothing special, just sounds. Personally I don't even listen to music in my spare time.

>>155674856
Oh, you poor boy. Such love exists, you just never experienced it.

>>155674925

I'm not a musician and I still appreciated the fact that they bonded over non verbal communication, in the VN at least it explains well that Kazusa varied her tempo and intensity of play to guide Haruki when he lags behind

How come the only canon way to get Touma's ending is to destroy your own life, alienate all your friends, and crush Setsuna's heart?

>>155675093

Because that's what Haruki does to be with her.

It's worth it.

>>155675131
Yeah but why isn't there a good end?

>>155675154

Not like Setsuna kills herself.

>>155675076
>Oh, you poor boy. Such love exists, you just never experienced it.
>I cannot grasp how someone could ever feel that way
>extremely rare cases
?

>>155672427
>Rina Ogata recorded White album
Yuki's song, so no

>>155674855
>Not only can you, but you should, because WA1 is garbage.
Rina makes it all worth it, though. She is a great character to see develop in the sea of stupid characters that is WA1

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>>155675076

You think some people are made for each other the way Touma and Haruki were?

>>155675246

Wasn't it a duet between the two? Either way, yes, Rina is the only good character, the only character who even cared about Yuki.

>>155675317
The duet was powder snow (also excellent), but WA was yuki's debut single (or first major hit, something of the sort)

Best WA2 song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f03zXT7mhgA

>>155667999
>Why couldn't she just be honest with her feelings?

So basically all romance anime?

>>155674925

I can't play chopsticks and of course it was fucking relatable you dolt. They where able to communicate on a meaningful level without even saying a single word outside of their passion for music.

>To a non-musician, music is nothing special, just sounds.

This is also retarded and you're a boring shallow human. Music can and does resonate with everyone.

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I think the scene was perfect in the anime, but I'm a little sad we never got to hear their sobbing goodbyes as they knew they were both nearly finished.

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>you will never know what this feels like

>>155675317
Some might be, but the cold hard truth is that they probably will never meet. Which is pretty sad.

>>155675939
Well technically you could simulate the whole thing.

It would just require an extreme level of simulation using technology not yet available. Also some degree of memory alteration would be necessary.

In other words you need to become immortal, take over the world, and use an overwhelming amount of resources to make it possible but it's well within your reach if you're willing to dedicate every waking moment of your life to doing so.

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>>155675915

>>155676036
why simulate it, when you already took over the world

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>>155673402
The part where she teases Haruki about learning Sound of Destiny in a week, but then reveals she actually does believe in him, and commits to making it happen.

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3rd times the charm, then I can go kms.

>>155676699
What a slut.

>>155676728
Shes a pure slut

>>155676676

She absolutely believed in him, because she loved him. ;_;

>>155676728

She just want's something to remember him by, even if it hurts.

>>155675769
I like Kazusa's rendition for the less-piercing highs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df2f8i11WxQ

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>>155677081

This made me really sad. ;_; (was nice not having to black out Haruki's massive cock every time though)

Haruki is actually a pretty big scumbag.

>>155675769

You sure you're not confusing best song by how that one is used in all the best scenes?

I think Powder Snow or Todokanai Koi is best. Former the Yuki version, and latter the Kazusa version, it was better than the Setsuna version.

>>155677303

He doesn't deny it, but nothing anyone did was out of malice.

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>>155676699
>>155676924
Well, that explains that.

>>155677888

Took a while for this to get posted.

Also, those pictures don't really convey the weird ass noises Kazusa makes, it kinda spoils the drama and beauty of the sex scene.

>>155678001
Guess that's Japanese porn for ya.

>>155678065

Not saying the VN scene is shit, it's nice to know what they were saying to each other during it and the ectasy and pain they felt, but the anime handled it so well, man.

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>>155677888
>Haruki doesn't even walk her to the door

>>155679003

He's asleep, she purposefully left him before he woke up and didn't even get to enjoy waking up next to the man she loved. ;_;

C-could this be the return of NTR?

>>155679093

If anything heralds the return of NTR, it's Kuzu no Honkai, WA2 is done, and has been for years. (sadly)

>>155679259

Any WA2 fans in here who like Kuzu? Same director as far as the anime series of both is concerned, and it shows imo.

>>155679795
How is it? I haven't checked it or Seiren out so far.

>>155680193

It's nowhere near as good as WA2 of course, it feels a bit more unnatural in comparison but I don't think there's anything we've had recently in a while that goes full steam ahead into the lewd part of relationships.

So any romance anime drama out that is worth watching?

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>>155677339
I like the pianowork in After All. Pity they haven't released an instrumental version, to my knowledge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1trsrfPxTP0

For Todokanai Koi, I think I still prefer Setsuna's version.

>>155681852

I need tl earn the Piano, there's just way too many songs like this I'd like to play to myself.

>>155681852

https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=884977

If anyone wants the Kazusa vocal tracks.

I just want to give her a pat on the back for her adorable attempt at Sound of Destiny, she tried, bless.

For how amazing their relationship is you can't really argue that Haruki and Kazusa aren't complete idiots.

Kazusa should have confessed to Haruki at literally any point in time during their highschool days.
Haruki should have rejected Setsuna and told her that he loved Kazusa.

They both should have just embraced their love and stayed together instead of fucking up their relationship with Setsuna only to get nothing out of it.

There are a million better ways to handle the situation but for some reason their feeling of moral obligation yet weakness to their own passions led to far more drama than should ever have been possible.

>>155682671
>>Kazusa should have confessed to Haruki at literally any point in time during their highschool days.

She thought she'd have no chance with Haruki, especially against Setsuna.

>Haruki should have rejected Setsuna and told her that he loved Kazusa.

Haruki thought he was nowehere in Kasusa's league, a genius who can play Piano professionally at an international level someday, and someone who is drop dead gorgeous but gives him mixed signals every time she pushes him away.

I won't say they're not idiots, but I understand completely why they pussied out, I'm also a massive coward.

>>155679795
>>155680193
>>155681309
I still prefer White Album 2, but I really like Kuzu no Honkai. I think Kuzu no Honkai was better overall, WA2 is just my personal preference due to some life circunstances. The way the narrative is done is incredible, it really makes you feel what the characters feel, and sympathize with them, partially at least. That's something that both White Album 2 and Kuzu no Honkai share. Most romance and drama anime don't really do this very well. You can clearly understand how and why the characters do what they do, and even though you might not agree with them, their actions are justified.
Kuzu no Honkai does this with various characters. There isn't one true main character, and you catch a glimpse of the mind of everyone. The music fits in perfectly, the voice acting is also perfect and conveys their emotions very well, and I honestly felt like shit at the end of each episode. It is a great show because that's exactly what it was meant to convey. A huge pain in the heart and rage due to the characters' behaviour.
I also disagree whenever someone says that the characters are unrealistic. I've been through some weird places and I can assure you that all the characters from both WA2 and Kuzu no Honkai are realistic and exist in real life. Well, they are uncommon, maybe, but not unrealistic.
If there's anything that's unrealistic, that would be, maybe, WA2 closing chapter (The second visual novel, for those who don't know. The anime adapts only the first one). Only read what's translated, that is, setsuna route, but I found it to be a bit unrealistic at some parts. Absolutely loved it, still.
The way I see it, Kuzu no Honkai is about people who are scum. It's in the show's name. They do whatever they can to feel better if only for a moment, and then deal with the consequences. It's a series about personal growth, but also about pain and heartbreak.
(cont'd)

>>155682325
I think that song was one of the best-fitted to her voice.

>>155682993
White Album 2 is about people who just happened to find themselves in bad circunstances. If Kazusa had confessed, If Haruki had rejected Setsuna, If Setsuna hadn't confessed, if, if, if...
Kazusa was in the right, it's crazy scary to even think about confessing and being rejected.
Haruki was in the right, he loved them both, and if he couldn't be with Kazusa, he could at least make Setsuna happy and he himself be happier with his new relationship.
Setsuna was in the right, if you love someone you should just go for it, and try to be loved, Haruki and Kazusa's relationship wasn't advancing anyway.
Now I'm a Setsunafag, but I don't blame anyone. They all are to blame equally, probably Haruki more so than anyone else. But they are teenagers, they are lovestruck, and everyone acts dumb while lovestruck, you can't rationalize something like love, it's a drug that's stuck deep in the heart.
White Album 2 portraits accurately a mundane, common story, and something similar probably happened to someone you know. One of it's great points as a story is that the story it conveys is completely ordinary, yet it is so touching and heartbreaking.
Now, what I wrote was written with only the anime (or first visual novel, whichever you prefer) in mind, and i'm desperate to read the 2nd and 3rd visual novels. I've read the summaries and I've despaired while reading them. I don't have time to learn nihongo as I'm a busy man. My only hopes are season 2 or translations of the visual novels.

>>155682993
>>155683333

For me, Kuzu had far too many stories and plotlines in comparison to White Album 2, given they both shared the same amount of episodes, and Kuzu just strikes me the wrong side of unrealistic most of the time.

White album 2 didn't waste whole episodes on the people who were in love with Touma (they existed) or the people after Setsuna, people would probably say some characters got the shaft from this, mainly characters like Haruki's friend, but at least they didn't steal the spotlight.

Secondly, I think one of the reasons people like WA2 is well developed characters with realistic motivations and backgrounds for the things that they do, Kuzu has Hana fuck her best friend on a rebound from being heartbroken, I'm not a life expert here but I don't really think many people would shag their same sex best friends if they tried to worm their way in after you were heartbroken, then you have a teacher shagging students left, right and centre, it's just so out there, especially the teacher who is okay with being a cuck out of nowhere.

WA2 feels like a story that could, probably has happened in real life all over the world, Kuzu is like a slightly risque drama show., let's not forget how fucking horrible the ending to Kuzu was and how amazing the WA2 one is in comparison.

>>155684027
>>155683333

Is Kuzu's ED/OP better than WA2's?

>>155684027
FUCK, browser crashed when I was almost done writing. Here I go again:

I think they both did great in terms of progression. The number of episodes fit perfectly. WA2 explored the main characters more while Kuzu was more broad, and I love both, because I felt both were well done overall. Every character in both series had me interested in their story. Oh, and Haruki's friend wasn't butchered, I read the VN as well so I can confirm.

About the motivations and being realistic, WA2 was absolutely perfect, but I think Kuzu was actually pretty fine in that department. Just remember that Hanabi was a weak willed cunt, and she was already in a purely sexual relationship with Mugi, and if she rejected the carpet muncher she'd lose the only friend she had. Using this weak justification, she'd allow herself to be fine with seeking sexual comfort in another girl. Recall that scene when she was lying in bed and saying "I want to sleep with someone". About the female teacher, she wasn't sleeping with students, she was sleeping with whatever literal penis she could find. Not unrealistic, just incredibly shitty. The male teacher, well, a friend of mine said he would do the same thing as the teacher did if he really loved the girl, but I really doubt that he'd do that if he was in such situation.

WA2 still feels like a more geniune story, something that touches the heart of everyone and is common and mundane. But remember that WA2 has normal people as main characters while Kuzu no Honkai has scum as main characters. Perhaps, the background characters were normal people in healthy relationships. The show focuses on the scum.

(cont'd, holy shit)

>>155685286
The WA2 ending was absolutely perfect. I think this is something that doesn't even need to be discussed.

The Kuzu no Honkai ending was absolutely disgusting. And that's something that's actually positive. It managed to convey the pain that the characters felt in such situation, and also managed to bring the happiest ending every one of them could of have. Hanabi grew out of her whorization in search of true love, and she genuinely loved Mugi at the end but didn't chase the love because he didn't love her back (that's what i got out of it at least). The other characters got decent endings as well. I was really mad that she ended up alone, obviously, but let's be honest, the show wanted to make you mad, whenever I watched a new episode I was clenching my fists at the end.

The WA2 ending feels much better, even though it's about heartbreak. The Kuzu no Honkai ending feels disgusting and that's what the show is about, being disgusting.


>>155684868
WA2's op and ed both grew in me, initially I didn't like them but then I learned to love them.
Kuzu no Honkai's op and ed were instant favourites. Besides the lyrics being awesome and fitting in perfectly with the show, the op felt like "lets give it all" and the ed felt more like surrender and pain, which just accentuated the emotional rollercoaster that each episode was.

>>155673402
2nd episode was the start, then flashback comfirm it.

>>155682993
>>155683333
>>155684027
>>155685286
>>155685634
Thanks for the info!

>>155685634

The OP for WA2 isn't anything special compared to Heikouzen imo, but the ED where the lyrics go 'If I hadn'tm et you, I wouldn't have known this pain' , Sayonara no something, it's a great song if you read the lyrics as it plays.

And it always comes in midway through the last few seconds of an episode, much like how Kuzu always ends with the acoustic version of Heikouzen. (official release when?)

>>155679795
Kuzu is good

>>155680193
Seiren is shit, and I unironically love most of Amagami.

My only problem with kuzo is that half of the drama could've been solved with a GUN

>>155687519

Director of Kuzu and WA2 knows how to direct a fucking good kissing scene, I'll give him that.

>>155676032

I don't want to live in a world where people die without having met their soulmate. ;_;

>>155688131
Don't worry, AIs and androids will fix that.

Reminder that even if you can't speak nip you should check out the mini audio dramas of Haruki and Ka\usa doing stuff, she sounds so happy in it.

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>>155689640
By killing all the humans?

>>155675093
To show how far Haruki is ready to go to be with Kazusa.

>>155689997

I feel like Haruki would wait until the heat end of the universe to be with Kazusa if he had to.

>>155690047
Haruki probably wouldn't, but Kazusa certainly would.

>>155690208

What makes you say that? You think Haruki doesn't lover her as much as she loves him?

>>155690256
Haruki doesn't have terminal autism like Kazusa.

>>155690316

Kazusa's loyalty is autism though, it's just a love beyond what most people can understand, because most people live their entire lives not meeting the person they were born to spend their entire life with.

>>155690256
Well, he still agreed to forget Kazusa when he finally reconciled with Setsuna. Of course he thought he'd never meet her again, but it's still not any close to Kazusa's (and Setsuna's, btw) devotion.

>>155679795
Kuzu is trash.
WA2 all the way. Even that shit saekano is better htan kuzu.

>>155690371
True love doesn't exist.

>>155690388

I love Kazusa so much, is there any figures of her sitting behind her Piano, it's the only weeb crap I think I'll allow myself to have.

>>155690433

If that's true, then Kazusa is even more incredible, because she still remains loyal to Haruki. In her case, I dunno' if it actually does cheapen it but I think she was destined to be with Haruki, I mean, she simply doesn't even look at other guys, she feels nothing for them.

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>>155690256
Well, Haruki does have several routes where he gets together with other girls.

>>155690649
The relationship is cheapened by Haruki not deserving Kazusa. She is so much better than him in every respect. Haruki is a weak, selfish coward.

>>155690752
You obviously didn't read the novel.

>>155690752

To be fair, he probably knows that, maybe Kazusa does too, but they both love each sincerely, and that is all that matters.

In the end he gives up his entire life just to be with her, which I think makes up for everything.

>>155690948
his entire life was a job and some friends. he didn't exactly have parents to disappoint and some binding situation like a pregnant gf in Japan to leave.

>>155689997

God I fucking HATED how everyone tries to stop Haruki running away with Kazusa, they are way too invested in his life, even in IC I was pissed off at how his fuccboi friend would play around and lecture Haruki on not following the women he truly loves.

>>155690998

Erm, he was getting married, I'd say that was a pretty significant thing to burn to the ground, and I wouldn't undermine him leaving everyone he knows behind, either.

>>155689997
Kasuza is viewed as a
>slut
>doroboneko
>some talented pianist that will leave Haruki in dust in the near future

Meanwhile Slutsuna play homely pure waifu to perfection and tricked everyone into believing her fake image.

>>155691146
>God I fucking HATED how everyone tries to stop Haruki running away with Kazusa
But it's only natural, isn't it? He is literally burning the bridges, leaving everything and everyone behind. Setsuna (who was almost his bride at that point), his own mother, all his friends, the job he had invested much in, so of course they try to prevent him from doing it. And let's not forget that Setsuna is also Io's and Takeya's good friend, so why shouldn't they take her side?

>>155677303
It's fun to see the mental gymnastics he goes through to justify the terrible things he does.

>>155691592

Because it's not their life and it's none of their business? And it's not just that they do it, it's the way they go about it, Haruki's friend is exceptionally preachy about it and it just all feels like it goes way beyond giving advice for his own sake and more like literally trying to control his life, fucking elevens and their honour shit.

>>155691708

He's not as bad as you make out, after he cheated on Setsuna he tried to confess to her the minute she arrived at his place.

Wow this thread brings back memories of the VN...man I wish they could make a 3....

Sigh. But to be perfectly honest, it was forced drama like nothing ever seen. You couldn't force it further if you had a hydraulic hammer.

>>155691910
>it was forced drama like nothing ever seen.

In what way?

>>155684868
Todokanai Koi is at its best when the full meaning of the lyrics hit home as it's used as the ED of the final episode.

>>155691999

Aw man, I still can't get over perfect that song is in the context of the show, Haruki wrote it, Kazusa composed it and Setsuna brought the words to life and they all performed it together at their most happiest.

>>155691910
>But to be perfectly honest, it was forced drama like nothing ever seen.

It wasn't KGNE-tier like WA1 was.

>>155691852
>it's none of their business?
But it is their business. They are going to lose their precious friend. Of course they don't want to.
And finally, his decision would be worthless had they managed to convince him. So, if he was truly determined to leave with Kazusa, then he would be able to deal with his friends.

>and it just all feels like it goes way beyond giving advice for his own sake and more like literally trying to control his life
Why? Really, Takeya was a true bro then. He was even ready to try to fix Haruki's relationship with Setsuna's parents DO THE IMPOSSIBLE, SEE THE INVISIBLE Literally everything for his friend.

>>155692079

Setsuna knew the song was about HAruki's feelings towards Kazusa, but did Kazusa?

lol I don't know how many of you guys read the VN, so I'll spoil Setsuna's viewpoint anyway:

She knew full well Haruki and Kazusa had feelings for one another. She purposely got in the way and took Haruki.

>>155692464
Love is a battlefield. There are no rules.

>>155692464

This is literally stated in the anime by Setsuna herself.

>>155692464
Isn't common knowledge she went full keikaku dori to get him?
There's no fair game in love.

>>155692300
Did Kazusa think they were written with Setsuna in mind?

>>155692618

Well she already thought they were going to get together, so maybe. The fact that she worked so hard on it that she collapsed, simply because she knew it was important to Haruki, is so god damn heartwarming.

I might be misquoting the VN, but doesn't Kazusa speak with Setsuna at some point in the latter's route and basically go "You can have any guy you want, so why do you want the only person who I can be with?"

Why is there seemingly only figurines of Touma in her Pop Idol costume? I'm not interested in that one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZNY_LxDBPc&feature=youtu.be

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>>155692997
Yes, it was in Setsuna True.

Would you rather love and lose like Setsuna ultimately did in CC/Coda or never loved at all.

>>155694467
never loved at all, a wound like that will follow you to the bloody grave.

>>155694571

So rejection IS in fact, ultimately more painful than extreme loneliness?

>>155694467
Never loved. That's my current and foreseeable state, after all.

>>155694642

Out of choice?

>>155694619
Yes, for those that never loved will never suffer the pain that is being heartbroken.
yes i speak of personal experience,
eat me

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>>155694619
Well, extreme loneliness also comes with that kind of rejection.

>>155694467
I'd rather love.
I'm in love with Kazusa and am denied her by the laws of reality itself, yet if you asked me would I rather have never met and fallen in love with her, the answer will always be no.

>>155694146
Which is a perfectly valid question, considering how much suffering it brought to Kazusa.

>>155694906

The answer is literally "for the same reasons you did" though, and Setsuna suffered waaaaay more.

>>155694690
Sort of, in that I'm not actively looking, and doubt I'd attract a girl by accident (or otherwise, ha).

I had a marriage blow up in my face over shitty communication, so I have a hard time feeling like Kazusa's relationship is healthy or worth preserving. Setsuna did white lie in a sense, but in another sense she did directly tell Kazusa beforehand and gave her a chance to object. Haruki's feelings towards Kazusa at that point were moot due to her closed off nature.
I only saw the show just in the last week and have no idea if the VN goes further but I choose to believe Setsuna stays the course and Haruki comes to his senses. As an aside holy cow the dialog of the sex sequences up there are just... ugh. Really glad the anime handled it the way it did.

>>155695456
>Setsuna suffered waaaaay more
Doubtable. I don't know what is more painful - being in love with someone close to you, but not being able to reach him, or being in (mutual) love with someone you don't expect to see again.

>>155694777
If my waifu dumped me I would rape and murder her.

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>>155693439
She is too cute.

Season 2 never

>>155698926
At least I'll be able to read the VN soon.

>>155667999
>bitches
>honesty

Pick one.

>>155676699

Why does everyone think when writing romance they have to come up with flowery purple prose crap.

>>155667999
At the end of the day, Kazusa was the most innocent one, at least in IC. She wouldn't take the opportunity to seduce Haruki when they are alone at her home, wouldn't try to steal him from Setsuna until he confesses himself, wouldn't take advantage of any sort of situations they were in. The only thing she did was secretly kiss him while he was asleep and immediately apologize to Setsuna who wasn't even present (well, she was, not that Kazusa knew about it)

Kimi no na wa has a MUCH better romance than white albim 2

>>155700069
>Shinkai
>any good romance
Try harder.