Dragon Ball Super

>>155552960
Androids CAN'T get stronger though.

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>>155554188
Actually, they CAN.

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>>155552960
I wanna see him interact with his niece.

>>155554485
Someone has that pic where he carries her on his shoulders while wearing a "best uncle" hat, 18 makes fun of him and he is like "shut up bitch, is true".

>>155554188
Probably not, but cyborgs sure as shit can.

>>155554485
I really want to see 17's family too. And his reaction to seeing 18 again. They've only talked on the phone once for like several years right?

>>155552960
>stronger
wow! Goku might even need to go Super Saiyan against him!

>>155554188
*Artificial Humans

>>155555026
Maybe base form, or SSB so he can manage his strength/ki usage so he doesn't absolutely merk 17.

>>155552960
Everyone has gotten a lot stronger in despite logic.
That or goku is much weaker. I dunno.

>>155555026
Every form of super saiyan can go to sub-base levels of power due to good ki control
see FPSSJ in the cell saga.

>>155554188
Recent materials made it clear that they entirely can get stronger, and that their cyber enhancements are not actually as crazy extensive as it sounds. They're still basically just a lot stronger humans. They can get stronger with training just like anything.

>>155552960
>they've never even met

>>155556872
That didn't stop this nightmare from happening in the anime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=881n1_ls8JU

>>155552960
He was weaker than ss2 in cell saga. I don't see how even he improved alot that he could compete with ss3 goku.

>>155557206
He has unlimited energy he could train all day and dont fatigue. Thats why 18 is the perfecto waifu.

>>155557034
Gohan did something similar in the Room of Spirit and Time with Cell. Precog dreams run in the family I guess.

>>155552960
what a fuccboi

>>155554188
They can

>>155554485
For what purpose

>>155552960
Thred is ded. The storytime thread was sooooo good lads, I still feel the feels.

>>155552960
Krilin just beat up Gohan and Roshi was invited to fight Frieza.
S17 magically being stronger would be the least inconsistent thing Super's done so far.

>>155554188
He's not a fucking android though is he?

>>155554247
How though?

>>155563218
Same away everyone else trains on their own probably. I guess a lot of shadow boxing or something.

>>155563218
Image training

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>>155556802
This

18 is an augmented human bean who had a child with Krillin.
Doubt that would be possible if she was full Terminator like 16.

>MIR

>>155562004
>Krilin just beat up Gohan
What's wrong with this?

>>155557206
Sure he can. Nobody knows how strong the Androids can get if they actually trained. 18 is too busy being best waifu and mother to train, so if 17 has been training all this time I'm sure he's much stronger than he was during his fight with Piccolo and Cell.

>>155562004
why can't 17 get stronger?

>>155563713
He did it with the taiyoken, not long after a fight in which he already managed to fight well blind.

He can also sense his ki, so Gohan should've been able to respond to baldies attacks.

>>155564399
Taiyoken x100 blocks Ki sensing too, but this is still the exact same situation Gohan was in in the match where he tied against a much stronger opponent while poisoned. Current Gohan is kind of a moron so he deserved it.

>>155564478
>Taiyoken x100 blocks Ki sensing too
huh I forgot that already somehow.

It's still too late to pretend that muh strategy could believably make up for such a huge power gap but it's not so bad here since Gohan wasn't really trying that hard to begin with. Plus he is Gohan.

>>155564560
It was Base Gohan so it's perfectly okay for Krillin to hold his own against him

Honestly Gohan could have probably just planted his feet and Krillin wouldn't be able to move him except with maybe Kienzan.

It was a fight to take Gohan down a peg because he for some reason considered himself the "strategist" when the likes of Roshi, Piccolo, or Krillin are around despite not knowing shit about tournament fighting.

It's clear that Krillin isn't as strong, but as someone who prefers Krillin it's good to have him shown in a good light. Now if only he could regain his muscles. Krillin looks scrawny as fuck.

>>155564579
Sort of, though Super is really bad at deciding how strong base and regular SSJ modes are. Early on we had Base and SSJ being god Ki level and now we have normal cast members matching them or characters they fought in those forms somehow when the gap should be insurmountable.

>>155564628
>Honestly Gohan could have probably just planted his feet and Krillin wouldn't be able to move him except with maybe Kienzan.
He could move Base Goku (and even SSJ iirc) a bit

>>155564663
yes, sometimes base is god-tier (against Hit) and after that it's just normal-tier

don't think too hard about it and enjoy the big explosions I guess

>>155564666
Nobody on Earth outside of Vegeta should come anywhere close to Goku's current base level going by past arcs. He's as strong as a SSJG like that. Toei seems to be retconning that or something otherwise stuff like this or Piccolo doing better at final form Frost than base Goku wouldn't make any kind of sense.

>>155564698
I'd like too, but they could at least think about how damn inconsistent the power levels are. It doesn't take much.

>>155564754
>Nobody on Earth outside of Vegeta should come anywhere close to Goku's current base level
Yeah, but then Toei decided otherwise. I'm not sure, but wasn't Goku also slightly hurt by a gunshot recently? Or am I misremembering and that was just Kururin?

>>155564916
Yeah the first episode of the arc Goku got scratched by a bullet.

>>155554188
They aren't androids.
Translation issue.
They're actually "artificial humans" much the way cell was still a living being and a machine.

>>155564916
>>155564984

This literally makes no sense, goku was taking missles and guns to the face as a CHILD with a power level under 10.

Jesus christ, does this scene imply goku is -that- relaxed after becoming a god?

>>155565442
The dialogue of the scene went about how it had been a while since he (Goku) fought and he had gotten rusty, which just makes no sense in the context of the anime.

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>>155564984

That was a SUPER anti Saiyan bullet.

Goku hired assassins to kill him because he was not training properly.

>>155564916
>Goku also slightly hurt by a gunshot recently?
Yep but he had his power suppressed way down to not kill the dudes attacking him.

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>>155565442
seems to me then that the god power fades quickly if not trained and maintained regulary

>>155565442
saiyans just have inherently strong bones. That's how he survived a headlong fall as a baby right on to a rock

>Goku fights 17

Fuck that piccolo should be the one to fight him. Their match never had an ending.

>>155554188
This isn't some backward android like Genos or The Major tho. They're fused to cellular level. Basically non organic lifeform

>>155554188
Probably some shit about being super smart and just upgrading himself and maybe 18 offscreen.

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I really hope we can see Bardock sometime in the future

Prolly the reason why Goku is devoid of paternal qualities is because he had never met his own father after he was sent away

>>155554188
Toriyama confirmed that they can.

>>155554188
Toriyama used the wrong word. 17, 18, and Gero are "kaiza ningen", altered humans. 16 and 19 are "jinzo ningen", artificial humans.

>>155570060
anything more than Goku visiting him in the afterlife would probably be a bad idea.

He's probably in hell though since saiyans were jerks unless perhaps if you count that Minus bullshit as canon.

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17 reveals that he was training his human ki
>MFW his power lvl is higher than yamca

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>>155557291
>Precog dreams run in the family I guess.
as father as son as son's son

>After the conflict with Cell, Android 17 becomes a park ranger. Android 17 also marries a zoologist; they have one child and two adopted children, and live happily in an isolated house inside the nature park.

I totally missed this plot point. The fuck?

>>155557291
By the Android Saga Goku is basically a sage, he can sense things and feel premonitions like Karin and Kami did.

>>155570060
Almost pure-blooded Saiyans are like that. They rarely meet their families and blood relations don't mean much to them. Saiyan royals seem to be the exception as they take pride in their status.

>>155570326
Almost *all

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>>155570060

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>>155552960
>17 and 18 were normal humans who had their cells modified

>Got stronger than SSJ and base frieza

So what would have happened if Gero had done that to the top humans like Krillin or Tien?

Would they have been SSJ3 level or higher?

>>155570564
Who knows. It's not like he couldn't have done it after building a body stronger then theirs

>>155570564
Android Tenshinhan could do infinite Kikohos, he'd be unbeatable

>>155570261
Toriyama mentioned it in some interview or something.

>>155570140
Minus is canon. Tori could retcon Goku being able to go SS2 against Cell, just to take a piss on Gohan and still would be canon.

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Does image training make you stronger?

>>155570140
>were jerks unless perhaps if you count that Minus bullshit as canon.
>He's kind with his wife but keeps killing innocent people from other planets

Awww so cute, that makes him a good person!

>>155571571
Shit works in the Matrix, so why not

>>155571571
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>>155571622
>Awww so cute, that makes him a good person!
Is not like it was his choice. Freeze pops told him to do it and Freeza took orders from Beerus. Bardock cared about his son and wife. And he didn't really destroyed planets, he just made them part of Freeza real state business.

dragon ball threads are empty as fuck lately... did boruto steal some anons from us?

>>155571820
It's better this way. Besides tomorrow is episode day.

>>155571820
powerlevelfags dropped it after the last episode

>>155571820
Just wait until that female saiyan harambe is unveiled. You'd see a chimpout just like how they did when Vegito showed up

>>155571820
Most people gave up on Super. Threads aren't like they used to be since the Black arc ended.

>>155571820
super is kill. only way to bring it back to the height it was is to make vegeta MC

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>>155571820
I guess this was the last straw for some people.

>>155571909
gohanfags just assblasted that trunks is the better half sayian

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>>155571870

>>155571876
>Threads aren't like they used to be since the Black arc ended.

Thank god

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>>155571820
cant wait until boruto threads are full with manga vs anime shitposters

>>155570060

He killed people because it was his job

But, he would go to heaven because of his last moments trying to protect his friends and his planet.

>>155570140
Hey if he was sorry about it then there's nothing to worry about

would be hella funny if android 17 ends up being stronger than piccolo

>>155572134
>17 is the future trunks of this arc

>>155570261

This, when I was watching the fucking Buu saga and then 17 appeared giving energy to the Henki-dama I was like "wtf? dis nigga still alive?" Because they never mention or acknowledge he revived or what happened to him after defeating Cell, they fucking disintegrate Cell, so he wasn't killed by Cel but by Gohan.

Can shen-long bring you back with your enhancements then?

>>155572134
I mean, Piccolo's power is pretty irrelevant by now. If they're hyping 17's power, he'll certainly be above that.

Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if they pull a Freeza and have him on SSB level, even though it'd be complete bulshit - but so far Goku isn't even using SSJ2 or 3 in this arc, so it feels like if they're hyping his power he'll straight up match Blue.

>>155572194
What makes people think 17 will be the Trunks of this arc? Who started this shit?

>>155572216
They acknowledge that he was brought back when they wish back everyone Cell killed. Krillin wished the bomb out of his body too.

>>155572233
>he'll straight up match Blue.
after the shitshow with krillin I believe everything now and they said blue is being downplayed in the manga.

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>>155572134
He probably is. Piccolo's "fight" against Frost was pretty pathetic. It was better in the manga but even still. He better have stepped his shit up if he wants to catch up.

I have no clue why Toriyama fucked him over so bad in the Buu saga. And now in Super he's just the personal butler of the Son family. I mean if he's content with it that's fine. But at least give him one more good match.

>>155572134

>That 17 vs Piccolo fight

Man, piccolo was actually useful until perfect Cell

And his rivalry with 17 was pretty well executed.

>>155572292

But he was killed by Gohan, technically, right?

>>155572264
It's just because of how much he's being hyped up I think.

>>155572319
(laughs)

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>>155572310
Still one of my favorite fights in the series. I hope they have some banter between each other.

>>155572306
His fight against frost was worse for him in the manga. Sure he gets better dialog but all he does is tire him out, in the anime he could have won if frost didn't cheat.

Why didn't they revive 16?

>>155572539
Not a ningen, so who cares.

>>155572539
He was probably brought back with the rest of Cell's victims, but he just went to live by himself in the woods.

>>155572539
>16 isn't technically a human
>being smash to bits is a machine's version of natural death, just like an old car in the scrapyard

Post your favorite fights

>Ginyu Force vs Vegeta Krillin and Gohan
>Goku vs Piccolo Daimaoh
>Super Saiyan Goku vs Freeza
>17 vs Piccolo
>Vegeta vs Semi Perfect Cell
>Gotenks vs Super Buu
>Goten vs Trunks

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I wonder if they will ignore 16's existence. Technically he should have been revived along with 17.

Reminder that Cell does not have a Soul and thus can't be revived

>>155554485
Maron is a bitch

>>155572848
Get over it already, Goku.

>>155572449
How is Piccolo facing upwards instead of being on his back at the end there?

>>155571820
>did boruto steal some anons from us?
Good, maybe some other threads can prosper now. A blessing in disguise.

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>>155572216

>>155572946
Why wouldn't he be on his back? Looks normal to me.

>>155572233
I think both will be in the same ballpark. Tiers will be like that:
>Goku and Vegeta
>Buu and Gohan
>17 and Piccolo
>18
>Tien, Krillin
>Roshi

>>155571947
>trunks is the better half sayian

>Not even invited to tournament deciding their universes fate

He's weaker than Roshi

>>155572304
There was absolutely nothing wrong in the Krilllin match.

>>155572989
He's not on his back though, that's my point. Look at which way he's facing at the beginning of the gif and then which way he's facing when he gets slammed into the ground.

>>155572999
>gohan
>buu tier
gohan is his own jobber tier

>>155572539
>>155572752
Resurrecting 16 is not easy because he was 100% machine and had no soul.
It would probably take two specific wishes to bring him back: first one for his robot body and the second one for the memory and personality he had before being destroyed,

>>155572074
But the Boruto anime is being handled by a competent studio unlike DBS. So there probably won't be any anime vs manga shitposting.

dragon ball is just too inconsistent i cant take this anylonger

>>155573002
Who Future Trunks? The man has been through more than enough in his lifetime. Let him relax with his waifu.

If you mean Kid Trunks then of course they wouldn't invite him. They've been hammering the point that this isn't going to be a one on one slugging match where power means everything. Trunks is an overconfident little shit while Roshi has countless years of experience and unorthodox techniques.

>>155573190
>competent studio
>perriot
> endless filler
kek

>>155570060
>>155570140

I think it could work. We could get a mini arc in between the major ones where goten and trunks want to meet their other grandparents so they sneak around and get the dragon to bring them back. Not like they would even be a threat. It would be interesting to see them interact with each other.

>>155573190
>Boruto anime is being handled by a competent studio
>Pierrot
>Better than Toei
Fuck off narutard. There won't be manga vs anime shitposting because everyone acknowledge that the Boruto manga is shit and has shit art.

>>155573195
its a show from the 80s what did you expect?

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>>155573241
>>155573272

why didnt they give ssjb at least a slightly different hair shape?

does it make animation easier?

>>155573223

Pretty sure his split timeline is part of universe 7 even if it's like a split end, it's not like he just saved it from zanmasu or anything I'm sure he's fine with it being destroyed in a tournament he could have helped fight in
He's arguably the strongest fighter currently, top 3 definitely

No one ever means kid trunks

>>155573494
>Pretty sure his split timeline is part of universe 7 even if it's like a split end, it's not like he just saved it from zanmasu or anything I'm sure he's fine with it being destroyed in a tournament he could have helped fight in

That doesn't make any sense. His original universe was wiped out and it didn't have any effect on the main one. Why would the main one being wiped out have an effect on a different timeline?

>tfw the Vegeta vs Nappa arc was just a Big fight but a lot of shit happened every chapter so the plot actually moved unlike oda's and kubo's dragging battles.

Toriyama is the shonen master

>>155563622
18 was given lady parts by shenron.

>>155573577

His original universe split from the main, like cutting off the branch the tree still lives

Killing off the main universe affects all he branches

>>155570140
Gine was cute

that chapter still was a mistake

>>155572752
>18 will never sit on your shoulder with her juicy ass and thighs

Krillin sure is a lucky little shit.

>>155571796
>Freeza took orders from Beerus
That's a negative. He was just told not to mess with Beerus.

>>155572988
>18 wets her panties

>>155552960
Dragon Ball's power levels would be more consistent and less retarded if they didn't have to always make the last villain pathetically weak compared to the next one.

>>155574216
I wonder how strong Jiren is going to be? I hope they don't push up above Fused Zamasu's level. That would be fucking ridiculous.

>>155554188

Nah. Toriyama said they can. It's just they are already way above galactic average so there's no real reason.

Essentially being 100% Frieza with infinite ki is enough to be nigh unstoppable aside from saiyans. I doubt Piccolo could still win since he couldn't even reliably beat Frost.

>>155555026

Goku couldn't even touch Krillen in base. They've been going that base Saiyans aren't capable since at least Buu when even Krillen was willing to throw down with base Vegeta and was totally considering a victory until Pickledick was seen.

>>155572752
He wasn't technically alive, that is why he cannot be revive. They could make that 17 became a park ranger in honor of 16 (he wanted to protect animals), Gohan would be moved.

>>155574292
>I hope they don't push up above Fused Zamasu's level.
Didn't that already happen since Fused Zamasu lost to SSB Goku in a beam struggle without him needing Kaioken. Yet Goku used Kaioken on the furry and he was better off than Zamasu.

>>155552960
If 17 and 18 are just regular people augmented by Gero to be stronger that Frizera why can't bulma just augment the humans to be at least cell levels of strength

>>155556292
>Everyone has gotten a lot stronger in despite logic.
Everyone getting stronger in itself doesn't defy logic at all. They're just handling it in a very sloppy way, arguably.

>>155574526
Beam struggles are like arm wrestling. Zamasux2's mental and stamina is weak.

>>155574603
Krillin and Piccolo are already way stronger than Cell so maybe Majin Buu levels of strength is a more realistic goal.

>>155574611
>>155556292
Goku and Vegeta got stronger. Gohan is currently weaker than he was, Ultimate Gohan was his peak. 18 doesn't train anymore, her power is still the same. Piccolo is stronger, 17 is stronger because he must have trained, Krillin is stronger thanks to training as well, which was way before the tournament and Tien always trains, but still below 18. Buu is training now and his potential is crazy. He was already SSJ2 level. It's not sloppy in any way.

>>155574844
>Krillin stronger than Cell

>>155574890
>and Tien always trains, but still below 18
kek

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>>155574844
>krillin and piccolo are already way stronger than cell

>>155574844
Piccolo might be stronger than Cell now but Krillin is weaker than 18 who doesn't train.

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Why are there 2 dead DBS threads

remember when dbs was exciting ?

>>155571796

What's with the bardock family tree.
Every single time the second son looks exactly the same as the dad.

>>155573179
>>155574413
Eighter and Arale certainly came back from the dead.

>>155575045
Looks like it was made a minute apart, the catalog takes a moment to refresh as well.

wouldnt it make sense for beerus to give goku and vegeta some lessons to unlock more power?

>>155575115
Last week.

>>155554188
They're not Androids, they're Cyborgs. They are still human at the core level, meaning they can train from there.

>>155564478
The problem was that, even if it was the exact same situation, Gohan didn't want to handle it the way he did last time.

In the 3v3 tournament, Gohan was expelling shit tons of Ki to get a grasp as to where Lavender was. Sort of like making a radius where he could see all.

He'd probably need to go Super Saiyan to be able to expell that amount of Ki enough to be able to sense around him. And Krillin capitalized on the blindness before Gohan could do any of that.

He's still a fucking faggot though.

>>155573871
Wrong. Beerus told him to destroy planet vegeta.

>still caring about dbs plot
Everyone is ssb level now. They don't care about any coherent storyline. They'll just retcon whatever so people can fight.

You'll see Krillin beating up Jiren after he mops the floor with Goku. It doesn't have to make sense. As long as Krillin says he has to protect Marron, no one will care and will just eat that shit up.

>>155577571
No one's talking about this at the moment anon.

This thread is so dead.

>>155577783
well we don't have anything to talk about at the moment

>>155577832
Maybe cause you made it too early OP.

>>155577850
I'm not the OP though

>>155577850
I am. I made at the same time as the last one. Somehow it didn't archive while I was sleeping.

>>155573719
Straight from your ass. Both the shitty reasoning and the universe we see being the main one.

>Universe which someone from the future appears and changes the timeline = main universe
>Universe without that = not the main one

That's retarded.

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Is she our girl?

>>155575045
I like this arc so far. It's neat to see AUs where things just went different enough to still be on track with the idea, but with a different take and outcome.

>>155578164
I SAID DELET THIS

>>155578164
Sorry. West Black is going to rape her, too.

>>155578164
>getting fondled by mortals
No.

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>>155578188
AND I SAID FUCK OFF I'M NOT YOUR STUDENT ANYMORE

>>155578164
So who are the hands?

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The 1st moon landing

>>155578164
yes

>>155578293
>mfw Roshi killed them in when he destroyed the moon

>>155578293
RIP in space

>>155578090

Whis explains that Goku and co's universe has been diverted from the original timeline and that Trunks' shouldn't even exist

So from this we can extrapolate that altering time does not happen and most universe follow a straight path
Trunks universe was the one Goku and Co are in now but in the future, but by going back in time and altering it, his time became an orphaned timeline since it shouldn't exist due to the changes Trunks made

>>155578347
>>155578345
Akira said they're flying in the space

>>155578337
What happened?

>>155578374
I find it cool that Trunks now has his own hidden timeline.

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It's really annoying. Everybody knows that U7 beat U6 in the last tournament, yet U6 ranked higher than U7. Even Beerus is more powerful than Champa.

Not to mention Zeno sama saw that too.
>Toei fucked up as usual

>>155578432
no one cares they are all going to die

you are going to die

>>155557291
They actually lampshade this in the manga/anime. When Goku asks Gohan to get mad (to turn into SSJ easily), he tells Gohan to picture Cell in his mind. Gohan says he can't, because he never saw Cell.

>>155572083
He liked killing people. The OVA never said he was conflicted or some shit. Also, he only went after Freeza because he was mad Freeza betrayed the Saiyans.

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>>155578432
U6 didn't bring her last time.

>>155572449
Someone posted this in a prior thread, but they have a few things in common:
- both are outcasts
- both are orphans

>>155578502
Yeah well he's the father of Goku so it all balances out.

>>155578432
A V E R A G E S

>>155578509
If that ends up being true, I think she only woke her power up when Cabba came back. He showed SSJ to the other Saiyans, and everything went south.

>>155578561
So it's U7's fault that U6 now has its own Broly autistically screeching?

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>>155578418

I'm still butthurt as fuck they bring back Future Trunks, a fan favourite in the west and east then stick him on the bus

>your timeline is destroyed
>but lol you can go home
>even though theres no reason to go back since everyone you know is dead
>now theres two of you in this timeline btw
>also lets blow up the time machine

They wrote themselves into a corner trying to have a big climax and they just throw the script in the air and go fuck it, one of the writers must hate really Trunks to go to those lengths to make sure he doesn't come back when it would have been more natural to write him off by having him and Mai take a honeymoon vacation type thing

>>155576610
I thought it was just Beerus knew Frieza was gonna do it, and let it happen anyways.

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>>155565044
I forget, is it "Kaizou Ningen" like Kamen Rider or "Jinzo Ningen" like Kikaider? I think "modified" or "enhanced" would be a better translation of "kaizou"

>>155578678
Sure if you say so. I liked it more he went to a lost timeline with two of them, it's a nice set up for future ideas if they ever wanted. At least he managed to slay a god and got his poor mom back. I'm perfectly happy with Trunks.

>>155578678

The best outcome was to keep Mai and Trunks in the Main timeline, seriously what the fuck were they thinking

>>155578725
Jinzo Ningen.

>>155571796
It's a little too fucking late in the day to try and runback the Saiyan's ENTIRE backstory so we can make room for Gine, being DA GOOD SAIYAN, because she has to be special because she's Goku's mom.

This is literally fanfiction tier writing.

>>155578767
That they just wanted to tell a story and then let Trunks go like they did with the Cell saga?

>>155578725
17 isn't looking at the cat

>>155578509
Cabba became a trans?

>>155578432
>How do averages work???

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>>155578678
Kind of obvious that would happen after they killed Bulma and 99% of all sentient life in that timeline.

>>155572999
It boils my eggs in a vat of piss that Krillin keeps getting to be more relevant and "just as strong as, if not stronger than" Tien, just because he's Goku's friend.

Everything about how Tien gets treated is a fucking disaster

>>155578767
Trunks is too overpowered for the next arc which is the tournament of power which is why they must write him off as the most bullshit way possible.

>>155578830
he's going to be in the UT just calm the hell down who gives a flying fuck that Reclusive Tien isn't immediately thought of

>>155578678
>future is fucked by some androids
>go back to the past to fix the future
>OH SHIT MULTIPLE TIMELINES SON
>so no matter what his future will remain fucked
>'well at least I made another timeline good, might as well celebrate there right?'
>Cell comes and fucks him
>now has to deal with some timeywimey bullshti where the Androids are stronger and Cell is here to ruin everything
>fortunately it works out in the end
>go back to the Future and kill the droids and bugman
>at last the future is safe so long as Trunks is around to protect it
>oh wait no Zamasu is here with Goku Black to kill all ningen
Trunks has a hard life

IT IS I, XICO- I MEAN GOKU BLACK (manga)

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>>155578933
>manga

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>>155578933

>>155578933
Xamasu is named after Xicor in both mediums.

>>155578916
I can practically hear him screaming "OH COME *ON*" the second Black began to happen

At least now there's two of them with a decent transformation to go berserk on whatever else wants to try its luck on his poor doomed future

>>155578740

He wen't to a snapshot of his timeline that Whis had and bubbled, it's interesting as an explanation to the universe and how it's all supposed to work, not to mention Angels abilities
I wouldn't be surprised if the Arch Angel priest or lesser angels does the same with the destroyed universes in this arc

>>155578767

The weirdest thing is they definitely considered it and decided to forego it, ignoring that currently everyone is the show is a baby or an adult raising those babies
I expected at least a couple of SOL episodes of teenage-eaque romance surrounding Mai and Trunks

>>155578798

He had nowhere to go though, that's the problem it was an asspull so they could send him away

>>155578978
Shut the fuck up retard

>>155578978
>He had nowhere to go though, that's the problem it was an asspull so they could send him away

Or they always wanted to send him back to the doubled line so he could try to live a normal life where he left it off. They never wanted to keep Trunks, anon. You did. You are obsessed with him and want him there, always. The writers don't care.

Trunks doesn't love you anon and he's never coming back, and he doesn't WANT to come back.

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GOD AND SAIYAN, INVINCIBLE BODY, X̶I̶C̶O̶R̶ GOKU BLACK (anime)

>>155578972
>inb4 Mai dies to the next threat in Trunks' dystopian adventure
I wouldn't put it past them to remove any chance of happiness for the poor sod.

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Heh....looks like I, Xico- I mean Goku Black (mang) have suffered some EMOTIONAL damage

>>155579116
I bet the Mais will be fine. Let them fuse and shit, Trunks^2 would be near Goku and Vegeta level. Mai^2 because, well, she's got spice so you may as well double it up.

>>155578798

Everyone expected this, with the difference that Trunks would return to his timeline

Now he has no home and will be living as a copy

There's a difference between been Future Trunks and Trunks 2

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>>155579156
Nice shitposting

>>155579179
But they gotta make Trunks suffer anon, and what better way than to kill his waifu (even better if she's pregnant)?

>>155579204
Who cares. This isn't Homestuck. Both Trunks will be overjoyed to have the backup and it'd be cool as fuck to go to a timeline with two of you and your girl, and they can permafuse if they want to make it less awkward and safer.

>>155579255
>permafuse
How?

>>155579292
Don't see why not, since Trunks is on a name basis with the Kais at this point, they couldn't find some way to make it stick without wishes. Maybe it gives Bulma the excuse to reverse engineer the dance and the potara to make something even better.

Use your imagination, anon. It's a timeline now ripe for its own fun stories and ideas.

>>155579357
Just let one Trunks become a time patrol dude

>>155579357
>they couldn't find some way to make it stick without wishes.
or just ask Polunga, who in that timeline is still alive.

>>155579392
That can work too, sure. I'd personally like the idea of a timeline with the four of them tooling around to do stuff. Maybe basic non-perma fusion can just be their default tactic when shit gets difficult.

And it'd be cute as hell to see Mais do the dance to turn into a flashbang shitting snipeshotting tittymonster.

>>155579416
That too, I forgot about that, it opens up even more story ideas.

>>155579466
Super Future Trunks getting to live peacefully(because, really, he got enough shit in his life) while Alternate Future Trunks being dragged in the Time Patrol would make sense.

>>155554188
Its been re-conned, anon, just like everything else in fucking Super.

>>155579558
no the information is quite old, Toriyama mentioned it in a Daizenshuu interview back in the day.

>>155579558
why can't they get upgrades to let them get stronger or train their human half ki

why are you all so hellbent on every single thing staying exactly the same forever with no excitement of a change

>>155552960
Draginbull supper sucks.

>>155579245
Congrats, you somehow made that line make Trunks look like an even bigger cuck

>>155579671
Now I want to see Dragon Bull Supper

20 minutes of every major character available sitting at a massive feast with absolutely no talking, just endless close ups of food porn and them licking, sucking, biting, smacking, and relishing every last single bite

Trailer includes 10 seconds of Bulma slowly licking sauce off her fingers while in the background Goku proves he can in fact swallow an entire pig worth of bacon in one mouthfull

Why is Toei so obsessed with cuckolding?

>Trunks cucks himself
>Mai cucks herself
>Bulma tries to cuck Vegeta with Zamasu
>Literally an entire 2 episodes devoted to Gohan cucking Videl

>>155579729
great macroresponse dude!

>>155578432
Look mom I posted it again!

>>155579809
Sounds like you're the one obsessed with cuckolding.

>>155579809
Because you want to be a cuck, anon, so you look for it in desperation in all media you consume. You've become worthless as human, so you want to become a meme.

>>155579809
>18 cucking Krillin with Tamourine

>>155578978
Well, let's wait to see what will happen in the manga. Maybe the new timeline thing was Toei's doing since theat ending was so rushed in the anime.

>>155579809
That really sound like you're just projecting anon. Why are DB fans so obsessed with cuckolding? Especially when it comes to Videl and 18? Are you really that insecure that you need to project onto a children's cartoon?

>>155579809
>Why is Toei so obsessed with cuckolding?
You're a projecting cuck and you're seeing things that aren't there.

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>>155579809

>>155580074
>>155580067
>>155579855
>>155579850

>>155579245

>>155579818
learned it from you

>>155572946
Because 17 front-flipped him over his shoulder, idiot.

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>>155580201
That was a nice one too! Enjoy your last (You) buddy

>>155580252
?

>>155580067
>Why are DB fans so obsessed with cuckolding?
Shounen kids are obsessed with that word for some reason.

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>pulls down Goku's pants
LEAVE GOKU TO ME!

>>155574292
Pretty sure they're setting up the introduction of a new transformation this arc. Unless the arc doesn't end with the tournament battle (and the Grand Priest turns out to be the actual villain or something), then Jiren needs to be above everything else.

>>155571820
Narutards spread to other shonen after their shit ended and made the threads even worse than they should be.

Hopefully this keeps them occupied for a while. Now all the shonen threads can be shit on their own.

>>155580354
I find it hilarious that what could be one of Goku's ultimate foes is probably another crash-landed alien story, seeing as he's a goddamn Grey.

How strong would Piccolo be if he fused with a Lord Slug-level Namekian?

Would he reach SSG level? Super Namek God?

>>155580477
he'd hit like, dunno, maybe he could beat a SSj1

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>>155578767
>That fucking Gary stu in the Tournament of Power

NO

>>155578165
Goku should barely survive third form Freeza with KK and get stomped by Final Form.

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If anyone is curious, this is Jiren's voice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWXF_yzi60

1:04

>>155579867
Tambourine's been dead for more than 20 years, anon.

>>155580581
I'm wondering if he isn't going to kaioken himself to death to beat him over going SSj on him.

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>>155552960
What is up with no one getting any cool outfit in Super. We will get this BS shirt for CaC in the next Xenoverse game that nobody would wear. The casual clothes in Z or the special ones like Yadrat outfit are dope. But all we are getting is BS tracksuits.

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>>155580610
>Tambourine's been dead for more than 20 years, anon.

Did they give any reason why Frost is stronger than Namek Freeza?

>>155580610
Resurrection of T when?

>>155580692
Frost is probably smart enough to train.

>>155580633
He can only handle up to KKx10. When he did KKx20 on Freeza, his energy tanked

Without Piccolo and the rest to distract Freeza, he's gonna get stomped

>>155580692
unlike friezer
frost actually fights for himself instead of hiding behind underlings like friezer

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>>155571571
Krillin, Gohan and Bulma was truly the greatest dynamic

>>155580764
>Some use Krillin
>Others use Kuririn
>No one calls him by his actual name Kulilin

>>155580723
Hey, alt timeine, let's see where it goes unless this is one where Frieza won and moved on.

>>155580585
>Omae wa taosu (I will defeat you)

Sounds like a no nonsense motherfucker. I'm betting Goku's going to do his Goku thing with this guy and he'll end up being much less reserved just like Hit, screencap this

>>155580802
his real name is bald midget

>>155580812
This is the Freeza universe timeline. So we know the end result lol. What's unknown is how Ginyu gets Cold's body.

>>155580817
>Jiren just punches Goku's teeth out the second he says waku waku

It'd actually be cool to see someone stronger than Goku with none of his battle love just move in to DISMANTLE him.

>>155580855
Oh, it's that one? Then let's see how it ends. It'd be funny if there was a timeline where Frieza won as sole Emperor of the universe, and then shit like Cell, Buu, and Black show up to ruin him, forcing him to actually train and defend his empire with the genie out of the bottle.

>>155580872
Shut up, Vegeta.

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>>155580872
>It's like Luffy vs Blueno
>Jiren just totals Goku without giving him a single chance to do any of his techniques
>He doesn't even give him time to monologue to himself
>The fight ends in less than a minute

My sides would disintegrate.

>>155580817
I just don't want another flanderized justicefag. I've had enough with Zamasu.

>>155580920
No, I want Vegeta to watch and feel totally helpless. I want Jiren to break Vegeta's knees for even daring to try to spew out some Saiyan pride strong than u bullshit in the middle of a erasure war.

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>>155580960

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>>155580960
>Goku attempts to go Super Saiyan Blue
>Jiren just rushes in and just crushes Goku's windpipe and traumatizes his sternum
>If he can't breathe he can't channel his ki, therefore he can't transform

Somebody stop this madman.

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>>155580834
>mfw lanklets are assblasted they'll never score a chick as hot as 18

>>155581029
I want it. I want their Saiyan pride to be cracked. I want every word they try to speak get punched right back into their mouths. I want Goku and Vegeta's entire lives and views challenged by the brutality of hideously powerful people desperate to remain alive at their cost. I want them to feel what it's like to be the hated villain who gets torn apart after trying to bluster. I want Jiren to go against every expectation of banter and loving the fight as a war machine hellbent on seeing them fall to the void mas fast as possible.

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>>155580960
Would be glorious if goku, vegeta and gohan all get taken out with 1 hit each.
Only thing saving buu is his bubblegum body and regeneration

>>155580834
Hagemanlet

>>155581145
Hageko (Bald Child)

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>>155581126
He punches/kicks them all full force in the dick

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>>155581126

>>155581126
xicor pls

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>>155581126

>>155581107
Videl is better

>>155581126
You. I like you.
Fuck Goku and the saiyans, I'm so done with them. Glad we are getting more time for other characters to shine in Dragon Ball.

>>155581257
jobberhan pls

>>155581201
I absolutely must have it. Even if Goku wins in the end like he always will. I must see him hate this fight and everything about it, because it can't go his way. I want him to become enraged, frustrated, beaten, even if it pushes him to yet another transformation. I want him to feel as sick and confused and angry as when Krillin died, but this time, he realizes he's the one being the Frieza.

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>>155580610
Ha! That's exactly what I made you believe

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>>155581257

Mai > Bulma > Videl > Korin >Chichi

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>>155581318

>>155578767

It's possible that Trunks dies in the manga which is why he's written off in the show.

>>155580692
They need a reason? Freeza and Frost aren't the same person. Frost is just stronger, that's all.

>>155581402
Look man if you just want me to go back to posting about West Black knocking up Mai then I will, you can just go ahead and ask. You're being pretty lame just standing there and reactioning.

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>>155581257
Her daughter's better.

>>155581481
Pan is cool, I'd like short hair Z-sword Kaio Videl myself

>>155581394
GO HOME POWERLEVEL GIRL

>>155581472
What?

>>155581472
Both sound boring AF

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>>155581481
A best.

>>155580931
>It's like Luffy vs Blueno

I'm watching it on youtube, Blueno is getting destroyed

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>>155580931
>Goku starts the fight in normal state
>Gets fucking dismantled because Jiren goes full power from the start and doesn't step back to let him transform
>Jiren makes a comment about how fucking stupid doing that is

>>155581565
Don't play stupid with me. You want West Black prancing around in the roses singing about how much she wants to be the strongest and make everyone have her perfect god babies. You wouldn't be standing here emoting like a coward if you didn't.

>>155581619
>Pan with tail

I NEED IT

>>155581390
How does it feel to look on from the afterlife and see your brother/reincarnated father cuckslaved so thoroughly by the man who killed you?

>>155580802
Both Kuririn and Kulilin are in the manga. I think Krillin is a good compromise that doesn't sound stupid in English.

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>>155581643
>Goku attempts to try and invoke the free speech rule and comment on how good a fighter Jiren is
>Jiren just nods and goes back to pushing his shit in

I seriously want this to happen now. I want to see Goku's perspective of fighting completely deconstructed.

>>155581643
I'd love it so much. Immediate 110% power, NEVER let's up for a single second.

>>155581652
Who the fuck is West Black?

>>155581701
>not "Kurilin" from "kuri" and "shaolin"
Come on...

>>155581726
I don't want Jiren to nod. I want him to spit in Goku's face and tell him this isn't a fight.

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>>155581686
There's just something about Saiyan girls with tails. Even though this pic isn't the best example.

>>155581687
>look on from the afterlife
>implying

>>155581743
Fanfic idea that popped up in these threads a little while ago. Takes the whole Lila idea from AF (evil West Kaioushin) and combines it with the Goku Black idea.

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>>155581743

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Reminder that tails are cute

CUTE

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>>155581765
>Vegeta's face when he witnesses all of this

No way is he going to get involved in that shit, knowing the rules of shounen went out the fucking window with that ayy lmao

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Jiren will definitely have a unique power. What will it be?

>ability to accelerate time (his opponents turn old and grey)
>can rewind time up until present day

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>>155581806
>evil West Kaioushin
Alright, I'm interested.

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>>155581789
>>155581848
>tail holding

Holy shit calm down Jirenfags. He didn't even appear in an episode.

>>155581869
he can punch really hard

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>>155580931

>>155581880
Then I was right, and you did want West Black. I knew it. Read last thread then, come-lately. You missed out.

>>155581880
You're going to have to go back several threads. An anon posted all of Toyble's AF manga.

>>155581911
You fail to realize we don't care about Jiren. Jiren is just a vessel, an idea, a tool we want to see used to bring Goku into the cold dead reality of nobody wanting his shonen shit, they want him a corpse, NOW, and every last bit of banter and battlejoy is going to be sucked dry by a humorless hate vampire.

>>155581911
we need the bug spray

>>155581854
I'd love that if for once Vegeta had to play the sensible hero. Like just watch him witness a few go over the side, realize that this is a slaughterhouse for the gods, and have to immediately think of a way to not die because nobody is going to bother buying what he likes to sell.

>>155581797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz3iDBJRq70

>>155581959
>we
No.

>>155581959
Speak for yourself faggot, I just want to see how far this can go, and how much we can meme

>>155582029
And yet, somehow, to your dismay and weak eyes, others have posted in agreement with me! Fancy that.

>>155579809
Well, Toriyama did confirm that Goku is the father of both Trunks and Bra, so...

JIREN THE GRAYYYYY
HE IS AN AYYYYYYYY
HE WILL SAVE THE DAYYYYYYYY
AND SHALL GOKU BEAT HIM? I SAYYYYYY NAYYYYYYY
BUT WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL PROBABLY MAYYYYYYYYYY

>>155582016
But if you kill you're disqualified