THE GREAT DEBATE

>>155245173
2022

1999 > manga > 2011

ova's are the best

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>>155245828
>ova's
>'s
i'm sorry guys

1999 had better atmosphere, but 2011 had better humor.
I would say the best viewing experience is watching 1999 till it ends and continue it on with the 2011 series.

>>155245173
I wasn't a fan of either.

>>155245897
This. 1999's Yorknew arc is perfect. Just listen to that sick moody OP.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TRs6cMZkQY

Anyone with a semblance of cinematic sensibility agrees 1999 is superior.

>>155246174
Any explanation as to why?

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1999, no contest.
https://youtu.be/x7y44OEt1VU

>>155246523
who is that handsome man

>>155246731
What are you talking about? With her delicate and frail disposition, she's more suited to be a princess than a martial artist.

>>155245368
this

>>155245173
1999 was actually even better than the manga itself. Back then everything looked so damn serious.

>>155245173
1999 kuroro vs zoldyck scene >manga>1999 op2>1999 anime >>>>>>>>shit>>2011anime

>>155245173
Left, right looks like you took a children's comic and turned it into a war crime.

>>155245173
Correct way to watch/read Hunter x Hunter
Start with 99 anime, go on till Yorkshin is over, then move on to the manga for Greed Island, then move to 2011 anime for the Chimera Ants arc and get back to the manga for the elections arc and stay there, You're welcome.

>>155245173
Manga, both the nostalgia fags and anime fags are cancerous.

>>155248028
Mangafag here, 99 is way better than the manga start and doesn't skip things like the 2011 version.

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>>155245173

1999 Hunter Exam = 2011 Hunter Exam

1999 Zoldyck Family > 2011 Zoldyck Family

1999 Heavens Arena < 2011 Heavens Arena

1999 Yorkshin >>>> 2011 Yorkshin

>>155245173
Both were garbage because the source material is.

>>155245368
2011>199>manga

>>155248179
99 Hunter Exam was way better than 2011 Hunter Exam.

You really need to rewatch the early parts of 2011 again. It was fucking awful.

Everything else I agree with you.

Also 2011 GI >>>>> GI & GI Final OVA

99 is better.
I actually watched it before I started reading the manga.
I had no idea that battleship island was filler at the time.
That's how good of a show it is.

>>155246216
Probably listened to that way too much, it just fits so well and the visuals are very nice and fitting

>>155248245
Not even, shit taster

>>155248251
>99 Hunter Exam was way better than 2011 Hunter Exam.

They were both equally awful, 99 Hunter Exam had that disgusting filler on the blimp and heavy censorship, so it's definitely not better than 2011.

1999 was magical.

2011 was not bad.

Pray > Ohayou > Taiyou wa Yoru mo Kagayaku > Believe in Tomorrow > Departure 3 > Departure 1 > Pale Ale > Departure 4 > Departure 2

>>155245368
Manga > 2011 > 1999

>>155248251
The only good thing about GI ova is the second opening which is catchy as fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gV5ARAuNq4

>>155248638
As I'm >>155248554

I much prefer the first GI OVA opening. Believe in Tomorrow is still a good song though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDd_I481ShA

Can we all agree
1999 Chimera ant arc>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2011 chimer ant arc

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Yu You Hakusho >>>>>>>>>>>> Hunter x Hunter

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>>155248106
>99 is way better than the manga

>>155248778
>Yu Yu
Fucking autocorrect.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THE 1999 SERIES

I'M SORRY

I'M A FAN OF THE MANGA AND 2011 ANIME THOUGH

>>155248758
1999 Chimera Ant arc was bomb.

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>>155248778
If we're talking about the characters, then yes.

>Togashi liked Kuwabara so much that he put him in HxH with a different name and power.

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>tfw no Chimera arc directed by Furuhashi
>tfw no Chimera arc cel animated
>tfw no Chimera arc animated by Akira Matsushima

>>155248778
Finally, something everyone can agree to unanimously.

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>>155249028
Cry more tears 99 fags.

>>155249136
Woah there dude, careful on those edges

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>>155246770

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>>155245173
2011>1999
For all the 2011 is shit talk 1999 fans can't seem to stomach their preferred version barely having relevancy compared 2011 these days so they'll just shriek autistically about it being a kids show despite 1999 being the more censored, and shill it nonstop.

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>>155248778
>>155248937
Kuwabara is best girl.

>>155249857
>censored
That's not why we like it. More violence doesn't mean shit. The direction, choreography, cinematography and atmosphere are why I like 1999. There's too much damn explanation in 2011 for my tastes, and the animation is a step down.

And my first exposure to HxH was 2011, so no pulling that nostalgia card.

>>155248937
you forgot to mention that he fused him with Yusuke.

>>155245173
1999 by far had more plot depth and engrossed the viewer. Also much better soundtrack, art and mystery.

>>155250068
Top looks way better and adds character, bottom looks like generic 90's stock images of crushing something.

>>155250258
>Top
>Generic "This kid isn't normal" presentation, has an ominous look devoid of any subtlety
>Bottom
>"Looks like I won the game."
>Destroys the heart while keeping the playful demeanor

>>155250068
Top looks better due to the sinister expression and that non nonchalant heart pouch holding.

>>155249857
Seriously, your only argument is namecalling and buzzwords? At least we know the shitposter is in the house, beware.

>>155245173
2011 is a gift to all lovers of shota.

In the [Current Year], generals are at least shitposting in the related sense.
Now with the new demographic of 4chan, if anything, generals would at least make some structure.

I'd rather take circlejerks than slowly turning into /v/.

>>155245267
Kek

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There are people who will defend this.

>>155245173
I like all of the adaptations. There's more than one way to tell a story, anon.

>>155245173
1999. Fight me.

>>155250068
top: "heh nothin personnel"
bottom: just treats it like a normal every day thing

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>>155250886

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>>155245173
1999. Everything about it is stunning.

>>155250969
Yes, nen system went to shit very early in the series, we know it, now we went full Dragon Ball thanks to that.

>>155251143
>revealing not only illiteracy but retardation as well

It's okay anon

>>155250886
He mad his plot armour elastic.

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>>155251143
Is that so?

I like both for different reasons
I do not really think one is better than the other

>>155245173

Despise the filler episodes 1999 have the superior narrative pacing, tone and OST.

Both the aftermath of Gon taking the plate from Hisoka and Gon's duel with Hanzo are several times more intense on the 99 version.

Yorkshin arc is also thousand times better independently of the source material.

For the parts 99 did not adapt the souless 2011 adaptation is acceptable if only because it aired without hiatuses. It doesn't really make justice to the manga dramatically though...

>>155245173
Manga => 99 >> 2011

How can anyone put 2011 over 99, when 99 has a ridiculously superior direction, soundtrack, atmosphere, etc etc?

Just look at this
https://youtu.be/udR6RdFpSVk?t=4m38s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgswrxtbfYs
2011 is incredibly soulless.

>>155250938
Nobody will fight you, people hating on 99 is just a meme.

>>155250006

How is Knuckles some Yusuke/Kuwabara portmanteau i keep hearing memes about?

>>155245368
/thread

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>>155250434
>this a debate on /a/, take this seriously!
What the point? 2011 already won the popularity contest by a being a proper adaption with superior pacing and most the anime watchers aren't watching for artistic value, only to be entertained.

2011 was fucking dogshit.

>>155251660
Outside from looks and initial impressions, Knuckle is a different character from Kuwabara.

I don't see how Yusuke is somehow fused with him. Ging already has Yusuke's delinquency and belligerent nature down.

>>155245368
So much this.

2011 is better and you normie fags that think otherwise are just edgy teens.

My only real problem with 2011 is the cut out Kite moments in the beginning.

>>155248554
>pale ale that low
I haven't even watched 99 but I love that shit.

>>155248554
I'll also put pray at #1, but they all are very good.

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they took the 1999 version and turned it into a pokemon spinoff. Fuck madhouse.
What the fuck is this shit?

>>155248778
Is the anime better or should i read the manga?

>>155253768
Manga the best but the art get worst as it goes on, while anime are honestly worth the watch despite there issues.

As an adaption, 1999 is the better production.

The animation, the music, the colouring and tone etc... all blow 2011 away.

>>155253768
Read the manga as any reasonable person would. Then treat yourself to the anime afterwards.

>>155245173
2011 version obviously

Literally nothing wrong with it and the art looks way crisper then the 1999 one

Only reason why people even like the 1999 is due to nostalgia and not entertainment

>>155253768
Watch the anime. Dubbed. No im not kidding. I never thought I'd say this but the dub is superior to the sub AND the manga

99 has cringy art and animation much more often than 2011 does, I think 2011 is a more consistent high quality production. Watch hisoka fighting leorio and gon and kurapika in the hunter exam in the 99 version if you really want to see how shitty 99 can be.

>>155245173
2011

>>155251185
It is though

Gon is gonna end up recovering his nen so this whole sacrifice means nothing

Why does togashi fail as a weekly artists?

His manga literally looks like dogshit untill it gets volume scans

During the chrollo vs hisoka fight nigga couldn't even draw simple gore properly

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2011's characters designs tend to be more accurate to the manga, but '99 had better direction. I prefer '99.

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>>155256734
The shit that had me bugging was that Hisoka looked good for the first time in since ever while Danchou nose looked fucking busted in every close ups shoot. Why is it so impossible for him to draw two of the best characters correctly?

whats going on with this series? i just checked into the manga on mangafox and it hasn't caught up with the 2011 anime?

>>155245267
you might be on to something.

>>155253731
hyperbole

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>>155245173
It's not really a question. 1999 is better in pretty much every way.

I've binge watched the whole 2011 series in just a few days and it was incredible. However, I'm bummed that so many arks may/will never be finished.
--Kurapika's revenge
--The fate of the Spider clan
--Kirua and his familly of assassin
--Gon VS Isoka
--The remaining 5000 nen-weilding ants
--How the Hunter leage will evolve
--Gon and his dad adventuring
--Ect...
Yeah, I know, read the manga, but I want to see it animated.

1999 aired in a local tv and was the first anime I got into, so it takes a special place in my heart.

The castilian spanish dub was very good

Most of the 2011 voice actors are better than the 99 ones. I prefer 99 Hisoka though because he sounds creepy and not completely right in the head while the 2011 voice makes him sound like a more generic villain. I am glad they brought him back to voice Pariston.

>>155250886
the properties of
GUM
and
RUBBER

>>155258623
>read the manga
anon, there's not enough manga of it to even begin to answer any of your questions

>>155256696
No, it doesn't.

You're still retarded

>>155257096
Though indeed 2011 looked closer to Togashi's more recent style, they're still way off in the early arcs, way to angular... 99 was more close to early Togashi style. But the style was variable depending on the animation team

>>155258559
Fuck off with your shitty filler episode Kurapikafag

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>>155260999
Fuck off killuafag
checked

>>155245173
>>155245368
For shounens it's always going to be manga. Their adaptations are just glorified ads.

>>155261058
but what if I like both Killua and Kurapika

>>155245173
better adaptation? I suppose 2011
better show? 1999

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>>155261738
99 had better character designs, actual backgrounds, and overall better art.
99 also has the haunting hum which accompanied nen aura. Nen itself was also depicted as a subtle film-strip which surrounded the character rather than DBZ-esque aura. Shit was pimp.
But fucking hell the art in 1999 is just so good. 2011 just gives you basic computer derived shit.

>>155245173
2011, anyone who says otherwise is a hipster faggot

>>155250886
>hisoka is a parody of luffy

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Really though, the art direction in 1999 was spectacular.

>>155262414
is that actual fucking japanese
shouldn't those signs be written in hunter language why is that japanese

>>155262496
right. why do the characters speak japanese.
fuck this lazy show

>>155262496
I noticed that right away, but I'll let it go

Still art is better in 2011, but animation sequences, liquid movement and direction is better in 1999

>>155250397
>playful demeanor
The shot/pic just before he crushes the heart makes him look like a fucking psychopath

>adaption
When will this meme end?

>>155262003
I don't know how people can say it is better unless they're underage.

>>155258882
I like Daisuke Namikawa as 2011 Hisoka. I enjoyed both voice actor's performances.

>>155263496
that's weird. For someone to have even engaged 99 means they are more than likely atleast 20. I'd posit that 2011 purists would mostly be underage-whatever that means

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1999 definitely had better art but it also looks unnecessarily dark when it doesn't need to because the colors were kinda muddy at times. Had a better soundtrack as well. Gave the characters a good amount of development, though most of that was achieved through filler. In fact, there was a lot of filler, maybe even a bit too much sometimes. Just take the entire boat section of the hunter exam for example. You don't really notice most of the filler though unless you read the manga first. At least this filler adds something. Hunter exam and yorknew were great, heaven's arena was okay, greed island can go suck a dick.

2011 obviously has better animation and everything looks cleaner but the art direction was pretty boring. Soundtrack is good but you can't just fucking throw the exact same OP at me for 149 episodes straight goddamnit. Characters were alright, some got the development they needed, some completely suffered, an example for this would be Leorio. There was some filler as well but it's barely even noticeable, it mostly just follows the manga. Hunter exam, yorknew and late CA were great, heaven's arena, early CA and election arc were okay, middle CA and greed island were a fucking mess.

I like most of the 2011 seiyuu more but 99 Hisoka just had this creepy vibe going for him.
Personally I prefer 2011 because I like it when something stays as true to the source material as possible, even though for the most part 99 is better, at least in terms of atmosphere.

>>155248778
Hunter x Hunter is miles better, Togashi improved on most aspects including world building, powerlevels and learned how to weave each arc into the bigger picture.

>>155265422
I liked the smoothness of 2011 Hisoka.

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>>155259490
Woah....

>>155264030
I'm pretty sure he was talking about 2011

>>155250966
They're both extremely "heh nothin personnel".

Though I do think the handing the heart back to him is a little more amusing.

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>>155265422
I dont like the character designs of 2011, but indeed the animation was pretty stable and good. Especially Gon vs Hisoka. But 99 had some amazing sakuga moments that were better than 2011 like the Uvo fight or the classic chain webm... Unfortunately we probably wont get a clean scan of the films of 99 in bluray...

>>155257096
Image 18 was when I knew '99 was superior. You see it for just a split second, but it's a great way to bypass the censors and add a neat sense of animation and detail to a scene.

>>155263092
He's giving a normal look, IE a playful one. It was all a game to him. 2011 misses the point entirely.

as someone whos only ever watched the 2011 version can someone tell me why i should watch the 99 version. to me it already loses points for looking bleaker and has a more monotone atmosphere plus characters design looks weaker. someone change my mind. if it helps im halfway through watching yu yu hakusho right now which i really like

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>>155269627
Because '99 doesn't cover as much story as 2011, it has time to put stronger emphasis on different story beats (i.e. Yorkshin, see the Nobunaga and Machi stakeout for an example). At the very least, it's good for a fresh perspective.

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>>155265422
>1999 definitely had better art but it also looks unnecessarily dark when it doesn't need to because the colors were kinda muddy at times
That isn't intentional, it's the fault of the shitty DVD rip.

>>155248778
Objectively correct. I miss YYH

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>>155248778
HxH > Level E >>> YYH
This is objective and not disputable.

>>155271492
>Level L >>> YYH
Nah.

>>155245173
I enjoyed 2011 more, especially for the Chimera Ant Saga.
I put it off for the longest time but when I finally finished it I ended up crying for a whole 5 minutes. The Performance from Gon's Voice actress that arc was top tier to me, the tone felt great and everything looked amazing to me.

>>155269866
That pic is always crazy to me
How can so much detail be lost?

>>155272818
xgen digibeta into shitty compressed dvds.

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>>155251914
>Trying to justify his lack of arguments with appeal to popularity
>Thinking that entertainment is a objective value that you can measure instead of being entirely based on perspective/preference.
>It's fine to shitpost because I'm on /a/!
>non anime image
It's time to kill yourself.

>>155250886
Well, we've seen it before.

>>155273234
I swear I've seen VHS transfers of stuff that retained more detail and more accurate colors than this

I wonder if they will release 99 HxH in Blu-ray someday or do they just not care anymore because of the '11 version

>>155273377
I dont think people in general care about 99. Telecine costs alot of money and i dont think its done in old shows unless they are really popular, if the films are kept that is. Reminder that nge got its bluray 1 year ago

>>155273447
Well I've seen less popular shows get Blu-ray releases

2011

>>155273531
If im not mistaken, Viz has the rights to the show, so dont get your hopes up

>>155245173
Does it even fucking matter?

>>155273804
>Viz
No

I'm talking about a Japanese release
I don't know which jap company has the rights(might be Nippon Animation since the animated it) but they would be the ones to release it in the jap market

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>>155273254
>acknowledges that the debate is ultimately pointless because the modern anime watcher just end up watching 2011 and claim it be the better version
>k-kill yourself
You first.

>>155275028
>>acknowledges that the debate is ultimately pointless because the modern anime watcher just end up watching 2011 and claim it be the better version
What the fuck is this? Are you implying that we should not have discussion just because the popular opinion is X? Are you clinically retarded? Going by your logic, no discussion about X being better or worse than Y should ever happen because you know, there will always be a popular opinion that most people agree.

See those discussions about FMA 2003 vs brotherhood? Well, fuck those 2003 fans trying to give legit arguments as to why their favorite version is better, most anime watchers just watch brotherhood, so it's pointless! Since we are at it, why do we even discuss obscure things at all? People will just watch popular things like Death Note and Attack on Titan, so it's pointless to talk about any obscure anime!

Also, you should kill yourself, yes. It's painfully obvious that you are a crossboarder and a newfag. The attempt to shut down discussion by appealing to popularity and non anime reaction images make it obvious.

>>155255330
>>155253768
kuwabara's voice is pure sex in the dub

>>155273377
Berserk '97 got blu rays after the new adaptations came out, so it's still possible.

I will never get tired of these kinda threads
I love seeing oldschool 99fags teaching a lesson to 11newfags about animation

>>155276725
Yeah and Berserk is nowhere near as popular as HxH either

>>155269534
Just watch the scene just after the pic you posted, before he crushes his heart. Look how he smiles. It's not playful demeanor, purely sadistic

>>155245173
Who cares? You can't polish a turd and ultimately thats what any hxh adaption is.

>Create one of the biggest shounen of all time
>Bungle you next series so badly that a blatant ripoff (naruto) becomes infinitely more popular than you
>Get so bored with your own story you go on massive hiatus all the time and submit webcomic-tier art whenever you bother to shit out some chapters
>Still keep a fanbase due to a combination of sunk cost fallacy, hipster cred and homolust, which combined with your previous success and jump being desperate for hits somehow keeps you from being canceled

I'd feel bad for fans of this series if they weren't largely smug cunts that believe the only reason someone couldn't appriciate their manga for preteen boys about fighting is that they're too low IQ to understand its majesty

>>155261394
Actually, shonen's are less of ads than most anime, since they at least adapt the entire work. There's only really a handful of good anime that are full adaptations of finished novels or manga.

Compared to most adaptations, especially LN adaptations, shonen anime are artistic visions.

>>155245173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw8Io09FeL4
Old anime is better minus the Greed Island OVA.
The best way to view is to go with 1999 up until the start of GI and then switch over.

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>>155276254
>begin this angry that 1999 is irrelevant outside of HxH threads on /a/
>cries about lack of discussion yet none of his post actually adds anything to the 1999 vs 2011 debate its damn self
>screams about buzzwords only to later use them
>still nitpicking about images
By the gods ((You)) are a colossal faggot.

>marysue x marysue

>>155278841
>"m-m-muh popularity"
Who gives a fucking shit?
Is Bleach better than Shaman King because it's popular? Fuck NO! The latter utterly shits on the former in every way imaginable

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>>155278841
>Create one of the biggest shounen of all time
>Bungle you next series so badly that a blatant ripoff (naruto) becomes infinitely more popular than you
>Get so bored with your own story you go on massive hiatus all the time and submit webcomic-tier art whenever you bother to shit out some chapters
>Still keep a fanbase due to a combination of sunk cost fallacy, hipster cred and homolust, which combined with your previous success and jump being desperate for hits somehow keeps you from being canceled

The longer HxH is on hiatus the more I see it for what is truly is.

>>155278200
That wasn't me.
And killing is a common thing for Killua, why not have fun with it?

>>155281932
Gon hates Bisky?
I know there's more than one MC.

>>155281932
Make one for Level E now.

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>99 fags at it again

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>>155282818

>>155279686
>>begin this angry that 1999 is irrelevant outside of HxH threads on /a/
I'm not angry and I really don't care about HxH since I never even watched the 99 version, I was just lurking in this thread when I saw your massive display of mental retardation.
>>cries about lack of discussion yet none of his post actually adds anything to the 1999 vs 2011 debate its damn self
I'm not crying about the lack of discussion, I'm calling you out on your bullshit. You claimed that discussion shouldn't happen just because the X opinion is popular, that's retarded and I'm calling you on it, simply.
>>screams about buzzwords only to later use them
When did I screamed about buzzwords? Your brain is so damaged that you can't even read? Apes, I swear.
>>still nitpicking about images
Not nitpicking, your attitude and use of images just make it clear that you are new.

Just keep the goalposts and backpaddle coming though, I love shitting on turbo retards like yourself.

>>155282818
>>155282856
that guy is actually right though

>>155282818
>>155282856
This guy is 100% correct

>>155253768
Watch the anime.

It's there any good place to discuss Hunter x Hunter anymore? I feel sad that I got into it so late.

>>155265496
Bull fucking shit. Yu Yu Hakusho shits on Hunter x Hunter.
Better characters, better story, better atmosphere, you name it.
>But m-m-muh world building!
Fuck off.

>>155285211
there never was

>>155285242
The characters were the only good thing in YYH, other than Chapter Black the story was boring as shit

>>155285534
>The characters were the only good thing in YYH
What else is there?

>>155285534
>implying The Dark Tournament wasn't hype as fuck
Eat shit.

>>155285658
Well maybe I'm just weird, but I like to have good characters AND a good story. Despite liking the characters I felt bored to tears for the majority of YYH.

>>155285722
Because it wasn't

>>155285788
Yes you are weird.

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Killua is cute!

>>155286154
Wrong.

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>>155286218
>recycled char designs

More appropriate.

>tournament arc

Every shounen

>unreliable edgelord

KEK, true

>>155286339
Recycled how?

>>155285825
Is that why most anime is shit?

>>155287888
yep