Why can't modern anime girls match the charm of 80s anime girls?

they can
I love plenty of anime girls from the 80s but nostalgia threads of this extreme are bad, OP
It's okay to like things that are less than 30 years old, no need to take a dump on modern writers and modern series just because they exist now and not in some rose-tinted past

Because you live in the past. Move on, idiot.

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because we got bigger titties now. Like, look at those things. Massive.

Not enough DARRING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VgtkkojHYQ

>>155132166
also I stopped taking my meds cold turkey last week and am going through withdrawal, sorry for being a dick
Lum is cute, though I probably like Shinobu better

>>155132170
>modern anime fans are sperglords
What a shock.

>>155132166
Modern anime girls have pimples all over their face and body in an effort to gloss their skin. Looks quite nasty; no such thing on 80s girls though.
Modern anime girls have wildly disproportionate assets. 80s girls have more well-rounded, delicious designs.

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>>155132051
I'm in love with Lum's cute cheeks!

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>>155132303
This.

>>155133797
>tries to defend the argument that 80s girls are the only good ones
>posts a cute character clearly drawn after the 80s

Nice self-sabotage, senpai.

I don't agree fully but it's clear that many designs are incredibly derivative at this point, whereas many designs in the 80's obviously were new and fresh

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>>155132303
>wildly disproportionate assets
This I can understand. Almost every other girl in anime has basketball-sized breasts these days. Not that I don't like girls with huge boobs, but it's definitely overstayed its welcome.

>>155132303
>pimples all over their face and body in an effort to gloss their skin
As in pic related?

>>155134359
I think the basketball tits goes back to the 90s, though, and was more prominent back then if anything.
90s anime was the sleaziest, actually.

>>155132051
That's what I want to know OP, they don't even reach the 90's charm and just sits at the 2000's.

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>Probably because we have memes now.

Miyazaki said something that relates to this topic but fags on /a/ don't respect him anymore. Pretty much old man Miyazaki said that today's anime is made by those that don't have enough life experience.
Kinda like how a hentai doujin can be way over the top if the artist is a virgin.

>>155133956
I use images based on how useful they are for the situation.
>took the bait
>he actually replied
>just end me already.
Not happening.

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>>155132051
Anime then
>Crazy bitch people with shit taste like
Anime 20 years ago
>Crazy bitch people with shit taste like (Naru)
Anime right now
>Crazy bitch people with shit taste like (Gorilla)

What the FUCK happened???

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>>155134359

>>155132051
No talent left.

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>>155132051
In light of my addiction to future funk...I finally deiced to give this a view...a few episodes. and it's absolutely infuriating to watch.

Ataru is the biggest closet case I've ever seen. A highly turned fuck-machine that would birth him many warrior children lands right in his lap...and he just squirms and runs away? 100% Faggot.

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>>155132051
>"la 80s kids amirite"

Nah. Anime girls (girls) have only gotten better. If I can choose to be stuck in a dimension of 80s/older anime girls or anime girls from the 90s onwards, I wouldn't choose the 80s.

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Better drawn butts, for one.

>>155132051
I just dont know, man. 80s anime girls just were so much more

>>155137726
Shit taste. 80s anime girls were the best

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>>155137901
>>155137922
This. Give me 80s or give me death.

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>>155132051

Can't compete with 90's girls, sorry.

>>155132051
Because you're a delusional nostalgiafaggot.

>>155136478
Kill yourself.
There's good animators and good writers who don't deserve to have their work shit on because idiots are wearing their nostalgia goggles too tight.

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>ITT pleblets getting assblasted because they can't enjoy nice things

Fuck off you turbo-autists cunts

Also Shampoo >> 90% of these post-modern crap any day of the week

>>155138020
>90s manga
>2000s anime

ahhhhh this is confusing are they 90s or are they 00s ahhhhhh

>>155138146
We do enjoy nice things, dumbass, which is why we enjoy anime from every decade. You're the ones who talk out of your god damn asses and say that nothing from the past three decades is worth anything.

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>>155138122
>Good writers
Oh yea, in a contaminated industry who literally makes copy pasta of copy pastas every single day is better than what it was in over 20 years ago because the animation looks nicer

Shut the fuck up you ignorant retard, the industry of music, movies and series has gone to shit with the years, and you honestly think anime is different? if you aren't a functional autist just take your hand off your dick and look at the generic garbage being shitted out today to the master pieces at 30 years ago

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>>155137947
Dangaioh is a treat, though I don't know that Roll was what I'd call a "coward". Then again, I'm not surprised considering both Obari and Hirano worked on it.

>>155138207
look
at
fucking
anime
charts
from
the
1980s
and
1990s
you
god
damn
fucking
idiot

how god damn fucking stupid can one god damn person be
you are a shitty fucking god damn person without a god damn brain anywhere in your fucking skull
HURRR THE 80S WERE SO CREATIVE I LOVE WATCHING RESKINNED 20 MECHA SHOWS A YEAR

fuck off and kill yourself, you ignorant piece of dog shit, you probably haven't had a worthwhile thought in your entire god damn life

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>>155138267
Type like a human being next time sperglord

You seriously trying to tell me there is post-modern anime on the same level as Sailor Moon, Ranma 1/2, Sakura Card Captors, Urusei Yatsura and Love Hina for example? fucking hell even K-ON is cult tier if we compare to the blu-ray of the season shit they are shitting out their arse nowadays

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>>155137947
It was so much better in the 80s before they invented moe.

Pictured: typical "moeblob" from average mid 2000s Kyoani anime.

>>155138381
>hating on Nene or BGC
I'm not the one crying about moe, since Mia Alice from Dangaioh was pretty moe anyhow (not that that's a bad thing), but do me and others a favor and just stop posting forever.

>>155138351
>you end up with a place full of plebs who value their "feelings" towards a show more than anything
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize I wasn't allowed to enjoy myself. Faggot. Art issubjective and anyone who thinks otherwise is a small minded and big headed idiot.

>>155138351
Yes, you worthless fucking sack of dog shit, I am. If Cardcaptor God Damn Sakura (what a boring fucking show) and Ranma 1/2 (vapid, brain-rotting gutter trash) are the best you can fucking do, then you clearly don't know a god damn thing about 2000s or 2010s anime and the many good shows these decades have produced. You're just regurgitating things others have said because you're a braindead retard who's never had an original fucking thought in your life.

>>155138381

You shut your whore mouth about Nene

>>155138207
If you look back at 80s and 90s anime that didn't quite make it to the states or got cheap dubs slapped on them you'll realize it's about as derivative as it is now. Everyone was trying to be the next Bubblegum Crisis or Gundam or what have you. It was certainly more fun and less obvious but it's certainly there.

Also the lack of quality control meant there were much higher highs but much MUCH lower lows. I'd say anime now is more mediocre to bad and we're less likely to get absolute dog shit terrible, unwatchable material.

>>155138381
Also Nene is very different from your average K-ON shite and BGC is miles different from your average SoL chruned out by Kyoanus. The poster you're complaining about is right in that the OVA boom of the 80's allowed for much more creative freedom than the market of today. Lurk more.

>>155138450

I'm not sure but I think you just got b8ed

>>155138436
>Enjoying yourself =/= shitting on everyone who actually tries to discuss something

Also Idolcrap will always be crap, moe can be saved, but the whole concept of Idol is tumor by default

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Great, another "why aren't people enjoying things the way I want them too!" thread.

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>>155138381
>no moeblob
Those were the times man

>>155138517
That's one hell of strawman on OP if I ever saw one.

>>155138506
I agree, fuck macross.

>>155137429
>100% Faggot.
You don't know what a faggot is.

>>155138566
Are you really going to try and conflate SDF Macross and DYRL with something like im@s?

>>155138122
>and good writers
kek, you are an idiot.

>>155138506
No, I'm not just going to bow my head and agree that everything I like is trash if you don;t approve of it. If I like something, it's fucking good in my book, and I don't give a shit what you think. You can suck my cock dude, life is too short to waste trying decide whether or not I should feel guilty for enjoying a certain aspect of Mongolian motion pictures. I can find philosophical of analytical pieces interesting, but if I want to watch moe idol anime, I'm going to fucking enjoy it. Go find something you enjoy doing and stop wasting your time telling other people not to enjoy what they're doing.

>>155138598
Well of course, seeing as you specifically said the concept of idol.

>>155138610
>kek
Kill yourself.

>>155138506
>who actually tries to discuss something

Yes this post >>155138207 is clearly the product of an openminded person who's willing to listen to others, and isn't an opinionated, pompous twat who throws his opinions around as fact

>>155138450
It's no surprise modern anime appeals to mentally ill sperglords like yourself.

>>155138629
>seeing as you specifically said
That wasn't me. I just think you're mentally deficient trying to compare Iori to Minmay, so to speak.

>>155132051
Lum is GOAT. Just not fair comparing most of the generic tsundere and retarded blobs of today

>>155138610
yes you fucking ignorant piece of filth, there are in fact shows from these eight years that have had good writing

Please do everyone a favor and kill yourself, the world would honestly be a better place if you were dead.

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>>155138618
>this much damage control
Shut the fuck up brainlet, go jerk off to fucking nico nico you slave, you are shaking right now

>>155138671
After you take your ritalin.

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>>155138676
Whatever you say, fag. I don't care if I'm a slave if the cool aid tastes good. I'm not interested in being the most sophisticated weeb on the planet, I just want to have fun and jack off.

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>>155138685
Isn't Ritalin for ADD

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>>155138020
Pleb detected.

>>155138732
You can say whatever you want, but I don't have to agree with you, faggot.
>implying I don't like love live and Eva at the same time
You really are a fucking tool aren't you?

Old anime had far better writers.
Old anime was far more daring and imaginative.
Old anime had far more detailed art.

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Just what is it about 80's fags that makes them so delusional, bitter and unable to live with any opinions that aren't a hugbox safespace echo chamber?

>>155138732
I want to punch you in the god damn face, you worthless piece of fucking shit. A lot of nostalgiafags in this thread are fucking idiots, and there's nothing wrong with calling them fucking idiots. Getting angry over opposing opinions isn't crying for a safespace, it's human god damn nature. You're a worthless piece of fucking trash that won't ever amount to anything. You're a sad, pathetic, broken little shell of a man, and you might as well just put a bullet in your fucking head because life isn't getting any better for you from here.

>>155138742
It's for many symptoms, including spastics with anger issues >>155138671.

>>155138793
I don't know anon. Once he felt threatened he just started sperging out blindly screaming at everyone who disagreed with him like some kind of retard.

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>>155138732
>putting an instant classic like Love Live on the same fucking level as utter dogshit like Eva
Kill yourself.

>>155138793
the same applies to any form of nostalgia
people can't let go

>>155138824
I'm under a lot of stress and have a short fuse right now. I'm normally known for my patience and understanding.

>>155138791
Even modern anime's strongest genre, slice of life, is completely outclassed by the 80s equivalents like Maison Ikkoku.

Idiots will try to argue a case for K-On, but it's really just garbage that panders to retards.

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Actually love Urusei Yatsura so much, it just screams the 80s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_RvyphjH4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzDlQcGt1dw

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Fucking hell, just what happened in this thread?

>>155138732
Oh, yeah, taste isn't subjective, it's got to specifically be the exact brand of taste YOU have for it to be correct. Of course, why would the individual preferences of people who are differing in mind even be tolerated when such a wise and prestigious man as yourself exists? It's not like all humans are simply projecting their own specific mind onto canvas when they create art.

>>155138791
>Old anime had far better writers.
You look at all of the shows that aired in a given year of the 80s or 90s and tell me how many stand up. It's very easy to cherry pick and forget the bad ones.
>Old anime was far more daring and imaginative.
Define daring and imaginative. Not a challenge, I just want to see what your metric for daring and imaginative is before I present modern examples.
>Old anime had far more detailed art.
Sure, if you're an OVA or movie.

>>155138881
I said that I would enjoy what I enjoyed regardless of his opinion. He couldn't comprehend it and lost his mind. That anybody would not submit before his powerful intellect and internationally indisputable taste in anime was, of course, inconceivable.

>>155138881
Nostalgiafags happened.

Anybody who declares anything after a given date to be automatically terrible and will blindly reject anything you present to them is not going to be a very mature or reasonable person.

>>155138927
I don't even know why some people get so upset because other people enjoy things. If you don't like it, then it just isn't for you. It's not some great crime against art if something doesn't appeal to a certain person.

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>>155138919
I don't know which nostalgiafag you are, but I don't like when people try to control the conversation too much. If you shut me down and try to deprive me from having a voice, then I just have to make my voice louder to take back some control. Ease up and stop being a control freak and you'll find I'm a pretty reasonable person.

>>155138962
You've got to feel superior over something, like you're more special than the common plebeian for thinking something, even if that subject is really trivial and subjective.

>>155138927
It is not an issue of date, but of paradigm, something that shifted during a certain period in time.

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>this thread

>>155138988
I'm not the nostalgiafag, I'm the Love Live fag. This is a fucking text based anonymous website, no one can prevent you from speaking, they can only choose whether or not to pay attention to you. I'm talking about the nostalgiafag who got upset when I said I would enjoy things whether he thought they were good enough. You fucking idiot.

>>155138866
>Idiots will try to argue a case for K-On, but it's really just garbage that panders to retards.
This is true, but K-On itself is very low tier as far as slice-of-life goes. If you compare good modern SoL they are just as good, and in many cases better, than what came before.

>>155139065
Oh, okay. I lost track because I switched over from my laptop to phone and lost my (You)s.
>>155138207 was what really set me off. I still have PTSD from Iraq and get angry easily.

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>he can't enjoy anime of all genres from all decades
Fucking plebs. Whether it's moe slice of life or manly hot blooded action series, I can enjoy them all, if they're enjoyable.

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>>155139142
Holy shit, look at this madman.

>>155139142
Bullshit. How many yaoi anime have you enjoyed recently?

You = BTFO

>>155139228
Anon, I swing both ways. Unfortunately, as with yuri, there's rarely any confirmed yaoi anime, but there is some good yaoi bait like Yuri on Ice before the retards got to it, and free wa spretty good.
>implying Initial D isn't borderline yaoi

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>>155139142
You and I are friends now.

>>155132051
because beating nostalgia is very difficult

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>>155132051
who can compete?

>>155139284
Initial D is the love story between a man and his ride.

>>155138146
Shampoo is a modified version of Lum.

>>155138267
>tfw someone took the time to type this post out like that

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>>155139494
That guy is an annoying faggot, but it's not like that takes any extra time to do, and at least he didn't greentext as if he just came outta /b/.

>>155139494
See >>155139141
I still respond to any kind of aggression, even just smug snarkiness, with some of the habits I developed during my tours in the early and mid 2000s. It doesn't take too long to do much of anything when you're overloaded with adrenaline.

Yes, I know I overreacted. I've calmed down.

>>155139526
1990 anime that I think look nice and would want to see:

>Samurai Pizza Cats (a given)
>Mahou no Angel Sweet Mint
>RPG Densetsu Hepoi

That's... about it. Not the most stellar of years.

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>>155139602
Why those 3?

>>155139644
Samurai Pizza Cats is a classic loved by all.
Mahou no Angel Sweet Mint because I'm a big mahou shoujo person. I want to watch all of them all the way back to Sally the Witch.
RPG Densetsu Hepoi because it looks like an RPG parody or something. I'm a big JRPG fan, and it would be an interesting history lesson since NES RPGs and such weren't even 'retro' yet in 1990, but were perfectly modern.

>>155139526

Weird that Nadia's missing.

I love that 80s punk girl thing, especially if she's soft on the inside for a guy.

>>155138912
You look at the best shows and films that aired during that era, then realize there has been literally nothing on the last 10 years that even compares. Yes, the 80s had some shit, but modern anime never came close to reaching its heights.

>Define daring and imaginative. Not a challenge, I just want to see what your metric for daring and imaginative is before I present modern examples.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdhIu94m6JI

That's an episode of an episodic TV comedy. It's also an example of something modern anime production teams don't have the creativity or the guts to pull off.

>Sure, if you're an OVA or movie.
Refer to the Youtube link.

Also since when do OVAs and Films not count? You're just excluding them to fit your argument.

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80s anime girls were all sluts though, how could that be superior?

>>155139776
>then realize there has been literally nothing on the last 10 years that even compares. Yes, the 80s had some shit, but modern anime never came close to reaching its heights.

I disagree, but what's really the point in discussing something with a person who speaks in such an authoritarian tone? Clearly you've figured everything out already and there's nothing more to be said.

>>155139776
If anybody presents a counter-example you'll either move the goalposts or blindly reject it though. You're having a one-sided argument.

>>155139776
>Also since when do OVAs and Films not count?
How new are you? They have always been considered incomparable because movies and OVAs are different products with different purposes, even more so in eras-gone-by. But even today they still have more dollar-per-minute in their production and much slower turn-around, making them a class of their own. Featherweight vs. heavyweight

>>155139690
I've never watched Samurai Pizza Cats, but I've always assumed it's just a shitty meme anime people like to compared to Teenage Ninja Turtles.

RPG Densetsu Hepoi is just a typical kids cartoon set in a Dragon Quest like world with demi human & living inanimate objects like castles & shit.

>>155139839
I haven't ever watched it either; my fondness for it is based entirely on the NES game. And even if it isn't a parody, a Dragon Quest-style series where the most recent entry was Dragon Quest IV sounds pretty interesting. I did watch the first few episodes of the 1989 Dragon Quest anime a long time ago and liked it well enough.

>>155139839

I see large furry boobs. I like how with some kid anime, it's always a roulette for which will be full of sexuality.

Because the following always happens

>great design
>shitty character

>pretty good, potentially great character
>meh design, poor shading, bland colors

>>155138870
Best OP and ED. My nigga

>>155139835
You're comparing eras, retard. OVAs were more present in the 80s, so they count, just like modern anime's higher volume of above average TV shows.

>>155139820
>>155139830
I noticed both of you chose to cry about replies I haven't yet made instead of actually posting counterexamples you claim to have.

What's the matter? Are you too ashamed to admit it's K-On? The absolute heights of the 80s and 90s include anime like Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Magnetic Rose, Beautiful Dreamer, Cowboy Bebop etc, and you think there have been anime in the last 10 years that match their quality and creativity?

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>>155138870
Maison Ikkoku is even more 80s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkwOPVoLrnA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65VN58rVCsQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX6znJQYx6c

Modern anime girls don't even get my hyped anymore.

>>155140044
>just like modern anime's higher volume of above average TV shows.

Eh? Above average? I thought you didn't care for 2010s anime at all?

No, it's not K-On. Shinsekai Yori for example is a series that can absolutely stand head and toes with some of the best 80s and 90s series.

I'm almost 30, though. I know a stubborn hardhead when I see one. I know when speaking to someone is a waste of time, and apparently the other guy does too.

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>>155140086
But anon, how is that possible. By the time Maison Ikkoku finished in 1988, we were getting close to the 90s. Shouldn't a series like Urusei Yatsura, which belongs to the early and middle decade, have much more 80s power?

>>155140109
>I thought you didn't care for 2010s anime at all?
Perhaps you should read properly then.

>Shinsekai Yori
Good show.

>that can absolutely stand head and toes with some of the best 80s and 90s series.
Nah. You've got nothing to back that up either. That show had some serious pacing issues, especially early on, including one episode consisting entirely of monotonous exposition. Also the visuals were lacking, and nowhere fucking near the level of the better looking shows from the 80s.

While we're on the 80's topic, why is it that almost every 80's anime on nyaa.se is separated into raws and english subs-only?

>>155140158
Well, at least there's more nuance to your posts than "old good, new bad."

Sorry, though - I legitimately don't have the time to engage in a debate. I go to work in four hours and would like to get in a nap before then.

>>155140155
early 80s is the 70s. mid-late 80s to early 90s is the 80s. mid-late 90s to early 00s is the 90s. so on and so forth is the way i see it

man everything was better when all anime were the same edgy fantasy/cyberpunk shows why did everything go so wrong nowadays

>>155140155
The mangas were written around the same time.

Also, try watching Maison Ikkoku. Urusei Yatsura can't achieve true 80s mastery because too much sci-fi whackiness is mixed in. Maison Ikkoku on the other hand has a grounded, realistic setting, and the production team did absolutely everything they could to bring the most out of the 1980s japan setting, both in music and in visuals (most of the staff actually came from the Urusei Yatsura team).

You well and truly know Maison Ikkoku is the most 80s anime ever when music like this starts playing while the characters are in the cafe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilu9yb07aQQ

>>155140268
>man everything was better when all anime were the same edgy fantasy/cyberpunk shows
All this proves is that your grasp on 80s anime is as superficial as it gets. Such is the nature of you retards.

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>>155140109
>Shinsekai Yori for example is a series that can absolutely stand head and toes with some of the best 80s and 90s series.

>>155140274
Oh, I did watch Maison Ikkoku, back in 2008. Liked it a lot. And yeah, Urusei Yatsura and Maison Ikkoku were concurrent for most of their run. I think they both ended in 1987.

I guess I wrongly conflated cultural developments with personal life stuff. ie for the 2000s, 2003 would be much more in the thick of things than 2009. In 2003, the 2010s felt so far away that it seemed they might as well not ever exist. In 2009 the new decade would be right around the corner, and the 2000s felt like they were almost gone since there were only months left by that point. I kind of went by that logic and figured 1981 would be much more comfortably, squarely 80s than 1988.

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>>155132051
There are exceptions but
>80s anime girls were characters
>modern anime girls are by-the-numbers archetypes created for mass appeal according to the lowest common denominators

>>155141330
This is an opinion influenced heavily by facts and is by no means utterly retarded.