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Why are hot girls attracted to cringey beta retards such as this guy?

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Why are hot girls attracted to cringey beta retards such as this guy?
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>>154854135
They ain't, simple as that.


It's a Anime solely for beta retards who would never have a chance at getting a girl or to self insert as the MC.
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>>154854135
Because almost all main characters these days are beta retards. They dont have any choice
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>>154854135
They aren't.
That's the part that makes people call this shit "wish fulfillment"
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>>154854223
>They ain't, simple as that.
Nice job trying to sound cool on the internet you fucking loser. OP obviously isn't talking about real people.

But to answer the question, wish fulfillment.
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>>154854261
>>154854223
this 100%. this kind of narrative is cringy.
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Maybe he smells amazing and you just cant tell it since theres no aroma tv.
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Plot armored MC can't be beta retard by the nature of his very role.
The comic relief male friend fits more.
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>>154854135
>hot girls
name one
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>>154854440
Rem
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>>154854135
So that cringey beta viewers can self insert more easily.
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>>154854445
>rem
>hot
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>>154854135
Its self insert bait, trash on the level of SAO

The only isekai shit show i mildly liked was konosuba since it never takes itself seriously
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>>154854135
Wish-fulfillment for beta retards.
Though I have to admit, after reading the first novel he's not actually as retarded as, say, Rito from ToLoveRu. He's inexperienced and naive, and I always hate how authors just have a guy who isekai's adjusting just way too well, but that's gotten over with quickly. He is a fucking beta, but that comes with the isekai territory.
I didn't go any further with the story after the first novel and didn't pick up the anime, so hopefully he's less a loser overall over time?
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>>154854135
That guy is only a cringey beta retard when that retarded half elf is involved. Otherwise he's alright
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>>154854522
>konosuba
stopped reading there
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>>154854135
But not neesama!
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>>154854135

From their perspective he executes everything perfectly and puts himself in mortal peril to help others, when in reality it's his 27th try at it and he's only risking pain.
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>>154854399

He canonically stinks like witch
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>>154854699
This. From their perspective, Subaru looks like the most reliable guy you'll ever meet. Except for that one part where he dropped his spaghetti.
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>>154854135
He doesn't look like an ugly neckbeard and he isn't fat, that's already a good start if you ask me.
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>>154854699
That's... honestly an excellent point. Reliability is an extremely desirable trait in a man, especially in a society like the one he finds himself in
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>in shape
>unique (only person in that universe that dresses and acts like he does)
>mysterious (smells like the witch and doesn't know anything about where he is)
>reliable (in their eyes he has saved Emilia, Rem, led the attack on the Whale and defeated 1 archbishop in like 2 months)
>"loser"

really made me think
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>>154854668
Its schlock, but it doesnt pretend to be art, and manages to be occasionally entertaining
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He's good looking
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>>154854135
Emilia is hot but isn't really attracted to Subaru. And Rem is not hot.
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>>154855345
This, people need to look into mirrors more often.
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>>154855088
>autistic splurg
>bitches constantly
>makes a fool of himself in front of everyone
Truly tickles the cranium
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>>154854135
Because they are yasashii.
However, Subaru is also confident as fuck, and that's what chicks dig the most.
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>>154854135
Because it's a fucking cartoon.

/thread
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>>154856427
>makes a fool of himself in front of everyone
He got his punishment.

>autistic splurg
>bitches constantly

when and where?
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>>154856427
Its like you people act like he lashes out at everyone like he did at Emilia that one time.
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>>154856427
>only happened once
>had severe consquences
>Emilia much rejected him
>to redeem himself he had to save her from a fucking nuke

again, for them he's far from a loser
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>>154856839
*pretty much
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>>154855431
>And Rem is not hot.
you must be gay
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>>154854135
I think he's hot.
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>>154854135
How does one shut-in after getting isekai'd is suddenly able and willing to communicate with other people? Those people are still real people just in funny clothes and different place for him.
He might have trained himself at home to stay healthy and doing stuff by himself like sewing, building models, and cooking as well are required for a NEET.
One thing I dislike the most is when MC is talking some stuff using words from our world and people from parallel world are just like "I can't understand a word you're saying but fine I agree with you let's do a thing I didn't understand and I have faith in you"
If some random dude whom you met only yesterday started saying strange words and talking about some stuff that doesn't even exist in your world you'd think that guy is crazy and stop hanging around him.
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>>154856990
He doesn't communicate well with other people. He's sperged out countless times, most notably at that royal meeting.
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>>154856920
Not him but Rem is cute kind and gentle but not hot. Her boobs are just making her more cute.
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>>154856990
Just because you are/were a shut-in doesn't mean you can't communicate with other people. Many shut-ins can communicate perfectly fine but don't do it because they dislike the society.
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>>154854731
It's not perceived by smell though, it's just another way of describing extra-sensory perception.
Anyway not everybody can perceive it.
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>>154856990
Did you forget the part where he dropped his spaghetti
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>>154857124
by how subaru fetishized her in their first meeting she should be sexually attractive
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>>154856920
Rem's attractiveness comes from her being cute not from being hot.
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>>154856990
He thinks of them as game NPC.
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>>154856990
>How does one shut-in after getting isekai'd is suddenly able and willing to communicate with other people?
He became a shut-in for a particular reason. He was too willing to communicate with other people, and they all found him incredibly obnoxious back in Japan. In the fantasy world, they seem to be more tolerant of his bullshit. Probably because they can blame his quirks on being an ignorant foreigner.
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Because he is an immigrant.

All girls crave alien dick.
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>>154854135
Well for one the only one attracted to him is Rem. Who mind you is also equally clingy.

The rest find him want to kill him at worst and tolerate him at best. Except for Otto and his adopted daughterus. Even then, his adoptive daughterus also find him annoying as shit.
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>>154857687
Arent all dads like that though? Embarassing and clingy?
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>>154857364
You can still fuck a cute anon. Being adorable is what makes her hot. But being hot is not what makes her hot.
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>>154857687
It's also pretty clear that Rem's taste in men seems to be the cute and vulnerable type, something probably rooted in her own insecurities and desire to feel needed and useful.
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>>154857879
Well that and a month of Subaru constantly spoiling the living shit out of her. Probably one of a good things about a clingy guy like Subaru is that he'd throw things the equivalent of a festival or convincing an entier mansion to work just to see you smile.
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>>154857687
Funny how Subaru's only friend is a social reject along with two of his daughterus. Otto being chased off because after her got slapped by a girl for being a dick he also told a noble's boyfriend that his woman slept with multiple men and made fun of him. Then there is the social recluse who spends all her time reading and a child soldier.
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>>154854135
Cringey yes but how is Toyota beta?
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>>154857941
Well, of course. Having just one quality she likes wouldn't be enough, or else she'd be spreading her legs for every isekai'd loser who showed up.

Subaru manages to match a good number of traits she admires, and gives her a lot of attention.
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>>154854699
im surprised everyone doesnt want to kiss up to him man or woman
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>>154858104
What happened to Crusch?
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>>154854135
Well to the viewer Subaru comes off beta retard since we see him fail multiple times. But the characters in the show see him as a some Alpha considering that to them he's survive impossible trials on multiple occasions on his first try.
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>>154858470
Other than her arm getting chopped off and her memories erased Crusch respects him as a fellow comrade but will still cut him down regardless when the time comes.
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>>154858227
That's how things basically start going after knowledge of his feats become more widespread.

Now we just have to wait until the other foot drops and people figure out he's got Witch powers.
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>>154857941
Too bad all that effort was a waste when she went up and got wiped from existence.
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>>154858641
Its not a waste. He gets to have some happy memories and a connection to hold onto.
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>>154857741
Not Roswaal
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>>154858641
That's like saying it's not worth it to ever do your best since you'll die someday anyways. He wanted to help her and see her smile and he got it so it's not a waste.
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>>154858822
>Roswaal
>Any semblance of a dad

Roswaal is a child abuser at best
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>>154858556
Funny how he only gained popularity due to the ones who helped him get there being erased. Like Julius and Rem, which Subaru gives all the credit to.

Sucks that the price of fame is throwing one of your comrades under a bus and your girlfirend dying.
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>>154859410
Well, he was already popular for the whale, but you're right that the one who got him there got erased. Kind of a shitty price to pay for getting to be the hero.
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At least Rem and Julius can be brought back
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>>154859711
I'd rather not get my hopes up in a tragedy anon.
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>>154859711
Crusch too.
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>>154854566
He puts genuine effort into not being a loser so yes. Even taking a year off to train to become better than a normal footsoldier. He also aspires to become a better person over time because of a promise he made.
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>>154859984
>He puts genuine effort to be a better person.
Literally every character out there. But sure since he's the MC, the cute girls go to him instead and ignored any other background character that are also puts genuine effort to be a better person.

What an easy life.
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>>154859826
The story gets dark but also uplifting
The the indicator that it's not entirely a crapsack world is that Subaru usually gets rewarded when he's being a good person
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>>154860068
Well good thing that Subaru has only Rem loving him. Other characters have their own loves.
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>>154860069
Subaru kinda doesnt get rewarded. As every reward he got he had a price to pay for it. Despite trying to be a good person he got his magic assholy violated, tortured, dragon aids, friends erased and etc. He sets a goal and acheives it sure but not after paying a really heavy price for it. I wouldnt be suprised that he saves everyone at the cost of getting sealed. Or him being the only one standing in a feild of corpses.
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>>154860150
Pretending to be retarded won't work here, retard.
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>>154860068
Pretty sure the only girl that loves him is Rem. The other women in Re:Zero are either married or have thier own romances to persue. Except for Anastasia. But she's a jew who loves money so.
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>>154860068
Which other character has even been trying to impress any girls, besides Garfiel? And Garfiel does end up having a cute girl like him.

Only problem is that she's probably too cute.
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>>154860068
Mimi and Ram have Gaaf who is also bettering himself so I dont know about that. Then there was Fourier with Crusch as well.
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>>154860253
>Reinhardt and Felt
>Roswaal and Echidna
>Priscilla and Schult

Are ones off the top of my head.
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>>154860253
Betelgeuse and Fortuna
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>>154854135
Satella probably wants him BECAUSE he's a cringey beta retard, meaning he's someone who can be fucked with easily.
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>>154860253
The two kinds competing for Petra's hand in marriage are ones

I forgot thier names though
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>>154860681
Well him and Al i guess. Because Al also got isekai'd into that world and given the same power as Subaru.
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>>154860853
His power is not the same, he can negate events willingly, is limited to an area and can decide who remembers
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>>154860853
Not the same. Al has a small AOE and can set when and where he respawns unlike Subaru.
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>>154854135
Results.
The guy apparently saved some of the bitches, a whole village and even defeated a centuries old, giant monster.

If you only watch the last circle of each loop, you can get what they feel.
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>>154860853
Satella is a slut
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>>154860853
I'd say it's more a power in the same family as Subaru's, but also clearly distinct.
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>>154858849
but anon, its not... otherwise... why the fuck are we here? i thought the default status of every anon was uncaring nihilism....
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>>154860179
But he's getting progressively more respect, friends and allies. I'm confident that he will be reunited with Rem
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>>154860939
Can he respawn two seconds earlier with his hand in enemy's chest?
Al can kill Reinhardt (at least once) since it's not an attack per se. Discuss.
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>>154854135
cause beta drones cannot insert as alpha male
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>>154854345
>denies it's shit for betas by betas
>then claims wish fulfillment
nigga you went full retard
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>>154864429
Reinhard can resurrect
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>>154864717
see
>>154864429
>Al can kill Reinhardt (at least once)
>(at least once)
Nice reading comprehension, my good man.
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They like him because he's hot and also nice and also somehow always turning things too the better. Especially Rem. Rem really likes Subaru.
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>>154854135
>Beta
Was he really?
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>>154864863
>They like him because he's hot
Just Rem-chan.
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>>154864863
Go back to sleep, Rem.
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>>154854135
Fuck you. When you create re:zero thread, write "re:zero" in the post.
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>>154865185
Maybe it's a shitty MCs thread.
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Is Rem considered good-looking in-universe?
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>>154865255
yes but more cute than beautiful
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>>154865041
>Q: Subaru has Rem, but why doesn’t he make a move when she’s that cute? Is he perhaps….
>A: Is he perhaps→incompetent.
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>>154865288
Is there a female character who hasn't been described as beautiful or cute?
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>>154865425
Frederica
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>>154854135
Because betas wont leave us, they'll do anything for us.
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>>154865255
Rem and Ram are both considered quite attractive. I believe there's a story where Ram is stated by the narrative to be about as attractive as Emilia, but not in the same way. And Rem looks like Ram, but a little softer.

So yeah. Rem is very attractive, but more cute than glamorous.
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>>154865185
This isn't a re:zero thread. But I would have been better if it was.
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Well i'm finally caught up to chapter 123 of arc 4 in the translations. Now I'm just twiddling my thumbs.. waiting.

How do people know what happens in the later arcs?
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>>154866466

http://rezero.wikia.com/wiki/Natsuki_Subaru/Synopsis
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>>154866161
If it was a Re:Zero thread, I'd be posting spoilers from the backstory.
All four of the Cultists have showed up. None of them seem to be Al, but there could still be a major twist later on. There's been no clear reason for their actions so far. The toughest one of the bunch just said he wanted to smell burning Onis, because he likes to smell rare things.
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How is this thread /a/ related?
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>>154865546
She was described as beautiful if she hid her teeth, so it applies.
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Because if the guy who gets all the pussy is attractive, intelligent and alpha, then you're watching a shoujo. And if it's supposed to be aimed at males, you'll just get a bunch of cringey beta retards calling the anime shit because they see the attractive, intelligent and alpha gets have all the luck IRL.
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>>154866605
Rem and Ram can't catch a break
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>>154854135

They're not.

They are attracted to sexy fat bald old men with lots of money and huge dicks.
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>>154866923
Well, they're not the only ones. You've got no idea how bad things are. I almost don't even want to spoil it anymore. However, if you want to know how tough the toughest one is, and don't mind some spoilers, he was the instructor for the other guys, singlehandedly slaughtered all of the guards in the Milord estate, and deflected Ram's strongest attack. Then he asked Ram to join him as his new disciple.
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>>154864863
>Rem really likes Subaru.
But he doesn't like Rem, hence why he rejected her to continue pursuing Emilia. And even though it's kind of expected since Rem is neither his first love which is supposed to be the deepest nor the girl he wants to love him back, it still hurts me royally. Oh well, I just hope things wouldn't become awkward between them when they meet again.
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>>154867190
Dude must be high rank. Does he have a special ability too?
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>>154867357
Anon, there are good and bad news
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>>154867357
Subaru rejected Rem even though he loves her. He just ranted about how he hates himself so he doesn't feel like he deserved her yet.
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>>154867405
Good and bad news?

>>154867421
>He just ranted about how he hates himself so he doesn't feel like he deserved her yet.
I sure as hell didn't have that kind of impression of him after watching that episode. Also as far as I know, there was nothing indicating that Subaru has romantic feelings for any girl besides Emilia.
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>>154867581
Cause they cut his inner monologue and his two confessions to Rem after and before the whale fight.
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>>154854135
This particular beta retard saves the day on a weekly basis, and in people's eyes- not because he's an OP piss o' shit, but because he's a smart-ass smartass (though he is actually an OP shit).
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>>154867368
Well, only one guy has a truly special ability. The guy who poisons mana around him, who was born with it. This is the guy who taught the other one explosion magic, and his way of talking makes me think he may have been the actual one to cut Ram's horn. That's if I recall the comment, of wondering if siblings smelled differently when they burned, correctly.
>>154867581
They changed some scenes in the anime. They changed some of them a lot. So, you've got good news and bad news. Here's a bit of the good news.

https://lemonwater123.wordpress.com/2016/09/20/rezero-web-novel-translation-of-rems-proposalconversation-with-subaru-under-the-flugel-tree/
https://lemonwater123.wordpress.com/2016/09/20/rezero-web-novel-translated-scene-of-rem-feigning-her-death/
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>>154867581
Good: he fell hard for Rem, and he loves her as much as Emilia if not more
Bad: while Subaru was fighting Petelgeuse, Rem was attacked by another Bishop and now is in a magical coma that erased her identity to anyone except Subaru. Moreover the checkpoint has moved past. The incidente so he couldn't reverse it by killing himself and still has to find another cure
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>>154867692
We can't forget the picture either. You may notice how different Subaru's expression is from how it was depicted in the anime.
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>>154854135
Only one girl is attracted to him and it's because he made her emotionally dependent on him. Bad example.
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>>154854135
Writers.
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>>154867692
Okay thanks. Those are some very interesting reads. So Subaru loves not one but two girls now? Well that kinda makes him look like a scumbag so I'm not sure what to feel about that. I'm not sure if it'd be a good thing for Rem either but we would see how things go.

>>154867711
>is in a magical coma that erased her identity to anyone except Subaru
> still has to find another cure
What the fuck? Any idea when Rem would be saved or revived?
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>>154867893
Well, she countered by making him emotionally dependent on her. So it's all fair.
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>>154868071
Who is Rem?
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>>154868071
well she went into a coma at the start of arc 4 and supposedly arc 6 is where subaru will(might) save her

p.s. arc 4 is ~130 chapters
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>>154868071

>Rem

Ram?
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>>154868071
>What the fuck? Any idea when Rem would be saved or revived?
Subaru is in the middle of trying to do just that in the latest Arc of the WN, after tracking down his first solid lead. Which is the Sage's tower, which no one else has been able to get into. Not even Reinhardt, who is literally invincible.
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>>154868138
>>154868174
That's not funny anons. Why the fuck did it have to happen again anyway? I thought we were already over that bullshit.
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>>154867581
>there was nothing indicating that Subaru has romantic feelings for any girl besides Emilia

Do you hold someone that way if you don't have romantic feelings for that person? In the original scene hew as about to kiss her
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>>154868290
Well, there are some epilogue chapters you could read. Mine might be a bit outdated.

http://pastebin.com/5fVyEtsC
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_oxWJ1yWNv4S2ZDOWs2NHo1bUE/edit
https://translationchicken.com/2016/09/12/rezero-arc-3-interlude-ii-lets-eat-12/

But let's just say she had an unfortunate disagreement with two prominent members of the clergy, who just showed up to see what all the commotion was about or because their books told them to.
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>>154854135
Did you even watch it?
They aren't.

In fact most of them are powerful people that look down on him
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>>154868597
Did the gospel tell them to go there? I though Glottony wanted to check after his dead pet and Regulus was just there by coincidence
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>>154868667
>Regulus was just there by coincidence
Regulus is basically a shut-in who just likes to stay home all day with his harem. All he said is that he didn't come with Ley, and that he was there for his own business. Chances are that his Gospel sent him to the area for one reason or another.
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>>154868090
Isn't this what love is pretty much all about?
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>>154867368
I'm actually less certain how special their powers are now. I'm not so sure this guy is an actual Witch Cultist, or just some dude they hired to train their troops.
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>>154868787
Assuming Regulus was there because the gospel told him to. What would have happened if he wasn't there? Rem and Crusch would have died and Subaru's story would have ended?
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So, we know what happens when Subaru uses the authority of greed?
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Because who would want to watch a show with a MC who is one of the same 5 generic flavors of Chad that all women in the real world fawn for?

It's all about wish fulfillment, the sniveling loser having close relations with sweet pure girls. It makes you feel good to imagine a world like that.
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>>154868275
>have a blessing that makes any new blessing you need when you need it
>still can lose
Is it some Tolkien/Shakespeare-level mental gymnastics or what?
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>>154868071
Remember the ogre story?

>>154867692
Also kek
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>>154868960
Well, that's the thing. It doesn't invent new blessings for him. He just has access to all of the ones that have ever existed, except any spellcasting ones. Because Reinhardt can't into magic.

Which is probably why he can't get into the tower. His abilities aren't flexible enough. In the end, he's still just a guy who hits shit with a sword until it dies, which is usually in one hit. He has limits.
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>>154868597
>Natsuki Rem
Wait what is this again? Some kind of side story? And since when have Subaru and Rem got married and had kids?

>>154868531
Well I actually had an impression that Rem was somewhat closer than a friend to Subaru, but because he didn't say anything like "I love you" to her, I just assumed that he didn't have any romantic feeling for her.
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>>154869097
>Wait what is this again? Some kind of side story? And since when have Subaru and Rem got married and had kids?
It's a sidestory, which was also included in the LN. It's there to make everything more painful.
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>>154869079
Wait the tower has defences that can withstand his power? Or was it some magic that clouded his senses?
Does it mean that tower's creator was above Satella level (since author claims Reinhard is as strong as she is)?
Is it just mindless Subaru wank?
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>>154869097
Author wrote a What If AU that had Rem accepting Subaru's request to run away.
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Say what you want about the anime but the Whale fight was pretty good. Shit felt like an actual war.

>この戦いは、我らの勝利だ!
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>>154869097

Well, he was about to even in the anime after the loop where Betelgeuse killed her.
But the real confessions he made to her were cut from the anime unfortunately.

We'll likely see them in flashbacks in s2 for some more dramatic impact.
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>>154854135
Calling everything cringey is pretty cringe man.
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>>154869232
After reading first few words I fought it would be some variation of iie, senpai.
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>>154868902
He didn't need to be there plotwise. You could delete him and nothing would change, it was a weird spot to introduce his character too, full of plot convenience.
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>>154869001
>Remember the ogre story?
You mean the story Ram told Subaru in the mansion? Yes. But how is it related to Rem getting erased again?

>>154869219
>What If AU
So is it just a story the author wrote to show what Subaru and Rem would do after they decided to elope? It honestly reads like Rem's ending to me so does it mean her ending would no longer be possible in the main story?
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>>154869510
>it mean her ending would no longer be possible in the main story?
Author wrote it because the demand was big, not because he planned to. He also made Rem a love interest after he wrote the AU which wouldn't make sense if she had no chance.
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I love threads like these
>fucking wish fulfillment garbage
>good thing I'm cooler then other weebs and don't partake in it
You're posting on /a/, you aren't fooling anyone
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>>154869751
>posting on /a/
>a proof of anything
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>>154869510
He chose both. Could it have been foreshadowing to him falling for Rem and Emilia?
Do I have any idea what I'm talking about?
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>>154869510
I think you need a refresher
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>>154870111
I was mostly coming from the "you must be the adulterous type" shit.
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When's the next chapter translation going to come? Christ. Arc 4 feels like it's taking for fucking ever. I'm honestly tired of all this sanctuary bullshit and I just want it to end.
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>>154870277
its on its way out by 2018 we should be done with it
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>>154870030
>>154870111
Oh okay. Seems like I misunderstood what you anons were trying to convey.

>>154869681
But it might happen that she would no longer be Subaru's love interest by the end of the series due to various reasons like dying or them breaking up or something. But anyway do you know where to look for other contents of this series after already finishing the anime? I'm interested in the series right now so I would love to have something to read and understand the story more.
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>>154854135
You answered it yourself
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>>154870535
>But anyway do you know where to look for other contents of this series after already finishing the anime? I'm interested in the series right now so I would love to have something to read and understand the story more.
i got you senpai, say no more

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_wOtTltdwZhHK0UKaV1AelPcA-K70SdWPcY3FTBJGnA/mobilebasic

http://pastebin.com/u3VJggF6

and also download these
http://imgur.com/a/jBrIW
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>>154870535
I don't fucking know what the fucking author was trying to convey. Am I retarded for not getting it?
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>>154870644
Neat! Thanks a bunch anon.
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>>154870752
Ram asked him who he would want to befriend, the Oni who wants to live with the people (Emilia) or the Oni who sacrifices himself for others (Rem). He chose both.
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>>154869510
>It honestly reads like Rem's ending to me so does it mean her ending would no longer be possible in the main story?

Not necessarily. Natsuki Rem was a bad end, they both felt immense guilt about their decision and they didn't really grow as characters.
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>>154857124
Cute and hot are not mutually exclusive, a character can be cute and hot. Which is what Rem is.
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>>154870936
That's what I thought.
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>>154870936
>red Oni
>it wasn't Ram
Really fires up your cortex.
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>>154871131
>Natsuki Rem was a bad end
Is it though? I mean Rem and Subaru seem to be very happy and show no sign of regret or remorse over their decision in the story one anon gave me earlier so I'm not sure if I should call it a bad end.

>Right now, Rem is the happiest in the entire world.
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>>154871426

There's more parts to the story than just that part.
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>>154871426
The rest is dead, Rem lived for a long time insecure and she couldn't develop out of her low self esteem, Subaru also has self esteem problems and never felt like he deserved Rem.

They are happy but it could be a lot better.
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>>154854135

this particular beta retard can savescum until he gets things right

your typical beta retard doubles down on being beta retard when they are criticized
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>>154854445
Who
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>>154854135
Money, security and somebody to pay to raise Chad's kid.
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>>154856990
>How does one shut-in after getting isekai'd is suddenly able and willing to communicate with other people?
Being a shut-in has nothing to do with an inability to communicate. I am one myself I still have a piss easy time talking to people or giving presentations etc. I simply dislike almost everyone I meet so I choose to not interact with them. There are probably quite a few shut-ins who are similar to me in that regard. Then again, I talk a lot to people online (on voice coms etc) so that might actually disqualify me from being an actual shut-in, no idea.
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>>154869681
>He also made Rem a love interest after he wrote the AU which wouldn't make sense if she had no chance.
This is incorrect. The AU was written after the conclusion of Arc 3, and Subaru already confessed to her by that point.

>>154869510
Also, by various official comments, it's clear that the author planned for Rem to be a serious love interest even before publishing the first chapter, so the whole Rem romance is not a reaction to the audience
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>>154854223
DELET
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>>154854135
They aren't. Rem is the only one actually attracted to him and he basically accidentally flipped all her switches and for some reason she finds his appearance attractive. Her sister thinks he's ugly and painful to look at, not to mention an idiot. The little village girl that ends up liking him sort of only saw him rescue her twice and be cool and so he's the first 'cool guy' she's ever met, not to mention the magic fuckery causing her to feel that way.
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>>154869185
>Or was it some magic that clouded his senses?
More or less this. Reinhardt doesn't really have a good defense or way to break the magical illusion fuckery protecting the tower. There are also mabeasts which will kill basically anyone else and miasma everywhere which also doesn't really affect him because of his busted gate. So its just the fact that there are puzzles and illusions and shit.
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>>154869185
There's a warp in space around the tower that you have to bypass by traveling through a sandstorm
The logistics of that shouldn't be impossible (or even hard) for Reinhardt, but he didn't figure out the trick and so couldn't beat the warp
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>>154869185
The tower has some dimensional fuckery in the surroundings that makes it infinitely distant to anyone who tries to reach it by feet.
Reinhard is unable to use magic, and blessing are mostly of defensive or empowering anture, so he doesn't have any mean to get past this obstacle. Subaru managed with Beatrice's help using Shadow magic to outright supppress the magical effect.

Also Reinhard would be on a standstill with Satella for the same reason: while he cannot be defeated, his offensive options are limited to phisical attacs, to which satella is effectively immune. He had the same problem against the Bishop of Greed.
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If you were an anime heroine would you not fall for a guy that risks his life multiple times to save you for no other reason than wanting you to stay safe?
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>>154854135
that's obviously not it since no one likes you, anon
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>>154872574
I feel like the "girl falls in love with her savior" is just a huge meme. Yes, women do like it if their men can protect them but they also want those same men to make them feel a sense of danger simply so they don't get bored. That's why Twilight is so popular, isn't it?
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>>154872775
Happens that to Rem, Subaru stinks like Satan whose followers genocided her people
So he has the vampire appeal going too
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RE Zero EP 1.
>NEET klutz gets transported into different realm and decides to try and cheat the system.
Manga chapter ???
>Basically The Dark Tower but without anything fun.
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>>154865804
Ram was best girl, right?
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>>154866845
Why wasn't Gil fucking every single character again?
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>>154854345
are you retarded
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>>154854345
>>154864508
>>154874571
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>>154854135 (OP)
You're looking at the end result. It's set-up like that because either Japanese men and boys are insecure and see successful guys as a reminder of their failure to conform to society's expectations, or... Japanese businessmen are too stubborn to adapt to the interest of their audience.

The only thing they got right is that guys like sex-appealing stuff.

On a side note, in a survey on why Japanese men don't read yuri, they said there's no male for them to identify with. Like, ... this is not just news to me. It's literally the first time I've heard this happening to men based on just them being men.
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Praise her.
https://mega.nz/#!CcdQjT7Y!i_Bg6gs5KKI9Vq8Gun4TNfXFqGRBF-KhbzpDtP-pZD4
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>>154876786
Holy shit you're alive
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>>154877834
Haha!
You are deceived!
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>>154876786
Thank you
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>>154874362
Oh also Subaru has the souls of archbishops talking to him and can read the gospel officially becoming an archbishop. Which is not a good thing. He also is showing the same symtoms as Betelgeuse before he was maddned.
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>>154873177
Anon not at all. Rem wouldnt have fallen so hard if it werent for the SOL chapters. Plus their personalities fitting well with each other. As they are both mischevous and enjoy violence.
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>>154854135
Because he saved her life, she isn't clinging to him for no reason.
Anyone who calls this wish fulfillment hasn't watched the show.
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>>154872242
Funny how to bypass the tower Subaru has to nearly kill himself by breaking his magic asshole forever barring him from absorbing mana.
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>>154876786
I want to hook the sides of Rem's mouth as I fuck her hard from behind.
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>>154877834
Not all mega links are Summaryanon. This is just a bit of light reading for everyone reading.
>>154878282
I want to see her bite off someone's fingers.
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>>154854499
>>154854522
this exactly
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>>154878250
The things he is willing to go through for his blue meido is really something.
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>>154878849
I'd honestly be surprised if the don't put rings on each other's fingers somewhere along this series considering how much they've went through and sacrificed to be with each other.

Only for Subaru to pull and Wilhelm and Rem to pull a Theresia and have him bury his dead wife.
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How many dicks do you think Subaru could suck at once?
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>>154878057
You forgot to mention he has 2 authorities will do that to you anon
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>>154879489
Darn it the second half was meant for another thread
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>>154879423
At least Ram and Rem's
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I hate how most of the fan base are remfags. I'd like more EMT doujins
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>>154855431
>Emilia is hot but Rem isn't
Anon, you're retarded and have shit taste.
Rem isn't even that hot, but Emilia is even less so.
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>>154879778
They'd all be OOC by default unless she got raped.
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>>154879778
It isn't hard to see her and Subaru fucking is why. probably because they already did.
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>>154876786
anyone got links to the other LNs?
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>>154860253
>[Ram: It doesn’t mean anything special. Besides, even I’ll let my guard down for however much Garf does for me. I just won’t go any further than that. ——Such a fool.]
>You could even call them rare flowers. She knew how difficult the troubles he went through were to make them bloom. How should she respond to so much devotion?
>[Ram: Such a fool.]

He was so close
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>>154880996
He wasn't close at all, Roswaal's dick is probably bigger than the manlet
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>>154858822
Roswaal can't parent even if his life depended on it. Calling him a dad is a disgrace to all dads.
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>>154881355
>Garfiel: “Go back, Ram. This's, my final request. With all the feelings I've ever said for you, my request. So...”
>Ram: “Then, Garf. —Would you abandon all except me?”
>The question is brief, but carries overwhelming pressure.
>Garfiel's expression stiffens. His lips tremble.
>Ram lightly lowers her gaze.
>Ram: “Out of every single thing in this world choose me, look only at me, love only me, devote only to me, be loved only by me, pardoned only by me, sacrifice your everything only to me—are you capable?”
>Garfiel: “I-I...”
>Ram: “I am.”
>Hand to her chest, Ram speaks firm.
>A quiet, but unwavering will. It alone fills her words as she raises her head.
>Ram: “—I am.”
>This was Ram's ultimatum to Garfiel.
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>>154881607
>I love Sanctuary
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>>154881607
And then he says 'I love Sanctuary' the narration says their feelings are platonic at best, she stabs him with her dick and he turns her into confetti.
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>>154854135
he's a nice guy

4u
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>>154881792
>>154881689
People can change.
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>>154881792
That's right. Ram is also clearly into older men. She'd be more suited to Otto.
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>>154881792
He'd probably have had a chance if he wasn't such a massive pussy and was willing to come over to visit every once in awhile.
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>>154882040
As much as I want that to happen its never gonna happen.
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>>154881792
This is why Gaaf is forever a virgin
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>>154874537
Because no other character was on his level. Except for Enkidu.
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>>154882198
Why do people call him Gaaf, but never Gaafiiru?
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>>154882579
Easier to type
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>>154881607
Sucks for you, Mimi already marked her territorry
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>>154881607
>LN cut this
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>>154879073
>the don't put rings on each other's fingers
Wouldn't happen until Emilia wears them first. Reminder that Rem has and always will end up in second place in everything, such as being second wife or second choice, getting second kiss (or maybe never), being second and also the inferior oni, and so on.
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>>154882892
First date, first confession, she also killed him first
Lets see EMT beat that!
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>>154882892
>Wouldn't happen until Emilia wears them first.

I really doubt that, Subaru is already having his feelings for Emilia fading or changing form into something that isn't romantic so. Plus despite having a year of no Rem Subaru still can't stop thinking about his precious potato.
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>>154882934
Don't forget Rem and Subaru also slept together, twice.
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>>154882934
>First date
Doesn't count because Rem doesn't even remember it and it's not a legit date either.

>first confession
Doesn't count because Subaru would have never said it if he hadn't got pranked by Rem. So it's hardly a legit confession.

>also killed him first
Haha no.
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>>154883137
>Haha no.
When did Emilia kill him before Rem did?
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>>154883187
I didn't say Rem has to be in second place after Emilia all the time. In this case, Elsa was the one to kill Subaru first, not Rem.
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>>154883266
Subaru literally says the first two things count, so your head is pretty far up your ass.
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>>154854223
This
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>>154854135

Because all men of that world are musculars, weird mages or bodyguard of some princess.
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Why does the best girl always lose?
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>>154883375
Hey man, some of them are retarded bowl cut midgets.
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>>154883333
Nice digits mate. But even so, it doesn't matter what Subaru thinks, being second is always for the loser.
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>>154883137
He confessed twice though. Once under the Fugel tree and twice after the prank.
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>>154883478
Except when people looked into Subaru's soul and found Rem to be "his heart's girl".
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>>154883478
I am inclined to pull out the Carmilla chapter. As well as a number of other things.
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>>154883538
>>154883570
>Rem is Subaru's heart's girl! He loves Rem more.

Nope. Subaru actually loves two girls equally so Rem might still be in second place as of now.

>He swears that his feelings towards Emilia would not waver from now on either.
It’s just that his feelings for Emilia were a different part of the entirety of his feelings.

>Roswaal: You say that, but wouldn’t her awakening be troublesome for Emilia-sama? Subaru-kun has strong feelings for that girl, no matter how you look at it. In fact, they’re as strong as the feelings he has for you.
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>>154883538
"Girl in his heart" is more accurate.
>>154883478
Subaru already decided that neither of them is second to the other. There's a whole part where he basically just says "Fuck it, they can both be number one".
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>>154883690
Anon, if you're gonna post something at least post the context

>[Roswaal: You say that, but wouldn’t her awakening be troublesome for Emilia-sama? Subaru-kun has strong feelings for that girl, no matter how you look at it. In fact, they’re as strong as the feelings he has for you.]
>[Emilia: Yeah. I think that’s right. Subaru will devote himself to that girl for a while, and he might stop caring about me as well.]
>[Subaru: No. Under no circumstances would that…..]
>happen. It shouldn’t happen.
>He swears that his feelings towards Emilia would not waver from now on either.
>It’s just that his feelings for Emilia were a different part of the entirety of his feelings. Him having strong feelings towards Rem is a fact, and just like Emilia said, if she were to wake up, there was no doubt that he’d become devoted to her.
>However, she says “it’s fine” to Subaru. Then

Take note how he couldn't finish his sentence. But really this topic has been discussed to death and pretty stupid.
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>>154882677
"Garf" is pretty fucking easy to type. "Gaaf" is just not getting how they represent our sounds. It's like referring to "Puck" as "Pack".
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>>154883777
At this point he's just finding excuses to force himself to like Emilia isn't he?
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>>154883828
Well that's obvious but like I said its something that has been talked about through hell and back. Really if anyone argues differently they either lack reading comprehension or are trying to bait in (You)s.
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>>154883378
But Rem isn't losing
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>>154883783
F0ck the Pack!
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>>154883828
I don't think he needs to force himself to like Emilia. She's more or less likable enough, and supposed to be attractive. However, developments do seem to have been going rather slowly, which is likely for a number of good reasons.

I'd more phrase it that he wants to like Emilia more than he maybe actually does.
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>>154883777
>Take note how he couldn't finish his sentence
So? His actions don't indicate anything like Subaru has stopped caring about Emilia at all. So Subaru stuttering for a second doesn't mean much really.
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>>154884075
>Subaru has stopped caring about Emilia at all.
Who said he doesn't care about her at all? However, stuttering usually isn't written in for no reason. Something makes him feel awkward about completing that sentence.
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>>154883828
This is kinda the case.
It is becoming increasingly clear that he loves Rem more but for some reason he's afraid of the prospect.
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>>154884075
This is the guy who can shamelessly say that he loves Emilia and wants to sniff her hair in front of everyone and the potato until her sister literally throws his ass outside, but as soon as you try talking about it seriously he clams up and can't say anything.
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>>154883378
Don't worry anon, Rigal and Spica have to become canon. Getting an oni pregnant once is already hard enough. With how endangered they are, the prospect of having 2 kids is too good to pass up.
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>>154884178
Yeah I love Rem but I'm just disappointed that Subaru might never love her as much as I hope, all because of Emilia. So I'm right now just trying to view things under an Emiliafag's perspective to figure out if Subaru would love Emilia more or less than Rem and see if it could somehow disperse my worry.
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>>154884178
I usually don't go so far myself, but I'll entertain this idea for the moment.

Rem is much scarier in terms of pursuing a relationship. Not because she's a little twisted, but because of what she expects and wants from a relationship. She wants to get married, pop out twelve children, grow old, and die together.

That takes a lot of fucking commitment.

Emilia is a lot safer, since she doesn't know enough to have those kinds of expectations or desires.
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>>154884394
I'm pretty sure he just loves both more or less equally and trying to fish for him liking one or the other more is asking for a headache. It would give him a headache too so he doesn't want to think about it. Something will probably force him to confront it at some point, but who knows what. Or maybe he'll just keep chugging along as he has been and just have two girls.
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>>154884394
You don't really need to worry about that, considering he is willing to impale himself with a chair if need be to see his Oni again I'm sure he's up there. That and the fact he sneaks into her room at night and watches her sleep is a thing.
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Subaru is Ryuuji if Ryuuji kept pursuing his crush Minori instead of following his heart and going for Taiga. Subaru basically did what he had been doing the entire anime; making a mistake.
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>>154884656
Yeah well, he's Subaru, making mistakes is what he does best. And that's how Rigel was born
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>>154883137
Subaru called mabeast incident a date
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>He looked like he was genuinely trying to get used to the job and attempting to get along well with Rem and Ram.
>Rem knitted her brow, looking like she was warding off the emotions bearing down on her at his earnestness.
>The sight of Subaru striving so hard, even when no one acknowledged it, stirred up a throbbing ache in her chest.
>“Subar—”
>“Oh, I forgot the work Ramchi asked me to do! Sorry, I’d better hurry up and take care of that! I’ll hook back up with you right after!”
>Subaru rushed into the hallway faster than she could call out to stop him. Rem withdrew the fingers she’d reached out to him with, looking over her shoulder as if she should discuss her misgivings with her older sister, but—
>“—No, it is not enough to trouble Sister over.”
>Rem walked toward her own work space, trying to wrap up her remaining work and reduce the lingering ache in her chest in the process.
I thought she disliked him in the final loop here, and the anime made it look like she had been giving him murder stares. This isn't what I was expecting at all.
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>>154884656
Or maybe is Taiga that is all spaghetti for Kitamura until she cried like a bitch when she thought she was going to lose Ryuji
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>>154884738
She's always conflicted about it. It takes days of him basically being shady before she'll get mad and do anything about it. Even in the second loop it was half an actual mercy kill because he was already dying and half because his smell was driving her crazy. When she later tells Crusch she never suspected him of being a cultist she isn't lying because it takes time before she resolves herself to that.
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>>154884964
Either works
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>>154884738
After all the author did state that given Rem's personality Subaru is her type. Moreover in the first loop he didn't smell like the Witch so she didn't have reason to hate him
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>>154886045
Well, that wasn't from the first loop. But yeah. It's clear that Subaru's behavior does get her attention.
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>>154854135
self insert
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>>154879073
>That spoiler

Why do all the good relationships have to end tragically? Why do all the really bad ones flourish?
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>>154886578
Because quality and popularity are independent

Then again SubaRem is one of the rare cases in which the best couple is also the most popular so who knows
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>>154884223
There will be an entire race of single-horned demionis
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>>154884223
Rigel and Spica sperms died a long ago.
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>>154888719
Technically, there are still 8 years before Spica's sperm
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Am I crazy, or is Roswaal dicking Ram?
I mean, maybe it's just transfering mana, but I'm pretty sure it's more than subtext.

>>154884738
SEE?
Fucking hell, this is why i should bite the bullet and read the damn novels.None of this is conveyed in the manga or anime.
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>>154888890
The horn is erogenous so there is a sexual undertone even if it's only mana transfer
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>>154888918

He's doing her nonetheless.
It's very much implied, starting as early as in the first few pages of LN2.
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>>154889884
Subaru has that impression because Ram is basically being finger in these sessions, but this also mean it's possibile to have that visible result without actual intercourse
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>>154861392
>i thought the default status of every anon was uncaring nihilism
we are under so many layers of nihilism we don't care anymore and just enjoy the time we got left
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>>154883690
"a different part of the entirety of his feelings" is 100% bullshit rhetoric
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>>154889961
Reminder that he's been doing this since she was eight
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>>154893358
And their uniforms don't have bras and they've been wearing them since he found them
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>>154893673
Roswaal was the one who designed them right? Also I'm pretty sure they wear bras underneath.
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>>154893673

They do wear bra's.
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>>154888817
Man, Spica is cute, but Rigel was the child I wanted to see in canon the most.
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>>154894348
We have Beatrice for that if we don't get a Rigel.
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>>154881488
I love Subaru being Betty's onii-chan/dad so much.
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>>154894443
I wonder how Beako would bond with Rigel...
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>>154893710
I'm pretty sure in that official art of their uniforms pantys were shown but no bra
>>154893889
She takes it off with her uniform


And why do all the doujins have them bra-less under the uniform?
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>>154894638
She'd understand his struggle of getting teased constantly.
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>>154894672
>And why do all the doujins have them bra-less under the uniform?

Because its boner fuel
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>>154894675
I feel lile Rigel would respect her a lot and call her Beako-nee.
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>>154894704
Please don't make me feel happy and excited about things that will never happen.
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>>154894704
>Beako-nee
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>>154894672
>>154894703
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>>154894867
Well shit, they really don't wear bras under that. Does that mean they only wear bras when in nightgowns?
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>>154894867
Does nee-sama wear the same kind of panties as Rem does or kinkier and more erotic ones?
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>>154895041
She wears whatever the BCC (big clown cock) demands
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>>154854223
Came here to post this. It is all a matter of market and this have to happen to satisfy the target
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>>154894902
Well, the funny thing about their uniforms is that they were initially designed for little girls by a lolicon. So, why would they have bras?
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>>154894704
They can be force fed by Rem together!
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>>154894704
>I-I would marry you when I grow up!
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>>154854135

Who cares? Jesus christ.

Take this shit to anime-suki or something.
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Has summaryanon released 123b yet?
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>>154895802
Not yet, so we continue to derail threads like this one until he does.
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>>154895776
But how will I trigger you if I don't post it here?
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>>154895843
>derailing shitpost threads into actual discussion
Is this reverse shitposting?
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>>154872775
That might apply to IRL but if you live in a world where death is way more likely I am not so sure about it.
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>>154897250
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Is this show actually good or is it waifufag bait?
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>>154876786
Don't know why Meili's hair is described as brown here. Nor why it says Rem worked at Roswaal's for "seven years", when the Ordinary Day short story says "almost ten" and the backstory makes her eight at the beginning.

So, this here is pretty solid confirmation. The timeline has, without even the slightest doubt, been retconned. Rem's probably 18 now.
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So is it confirmed that Subaru is an archbishop now?

If so Dark Lord route when?
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>>154897709
In the sense that he's absorbed one or two Authorities of Sin? Yes. However, the dark power, and accompanying madness, haven't grown to the same level yet.
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>>154897709
Well he has fulfilled all the pre-requisites of being one but he isn't there yet. He is unwittingly on the villain route but he is still trying to be a good person still.
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>>154897526
Show is shit, now go away.
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>>154897951
Why do you tell anyone who is interested in the series to fuck off?
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>>154897778
Why do people keep saying he's on the bad route? I don't get it, all he does after Arc 4 is good. The only bad thing I can remember about him is having 2 or 3 authorities and being able to read the Gospel (albeit I don't know when does he get to read one, maybe it's in Arc 4 and I just forgot). Flugel probably also had a shitton of authorities and was probably behind the original witch cult (as foreshadowed by Pete), but we can't exactly called him as being in a villain route, can we?
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>>154898000
That way I don't have to deal with bullshit and blogposting in our threads like last time plus people who are asking if a series is good or not in a thread made for hating on and shitposting about the series is someone who wants people to call the series shit regardless.
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>>154898027
Well Subaru is showing the same symptoms as Betelgeuse for one. The second is his dream state and being able to talk to the dead archbishops he killed and them being able to talk to him. Plus his visions of Satella get clearer. Plus the narration and characters joking around about how "un-protagonist" and "villainous" Subaru is also something to consider.
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>>154898193
You're looking to deep into it. He's not far gone just yet.

Plus, he has no form inside of the "dream like realm", so he can't listen to them, talk or anything.
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>>154898193
His dream state? You mean when the hands appear and clutch his heart?

Also didn't the Satella plot point get resolved when he talked to her in the last loop of Arc 4?

And why would Subaru be villainous and unprotagonist, according to other characters?
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>>154898288
Maybe I am, but it really doesn't doesn't have a good vibe around it. Especially the "my mind tembles" part.
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>>154898288
>so he can't listen to them
He can definitely listen, though you're right that he wasn't able to talk yet.
>>154898315
>His dream state? You mean when the hands appear and clutch his heart?
No. Sometimes Subaru sees Satella when he dies. The last time, it happened after he was merely knocked out, and both Betelgeuse and Regulus were waiting for him there as well. So far, he hasn't experience another period of unconsciousness since then, so we don't know if it'll progress. However, do you really think a plot point like that would be introduced, then completely dropped without anything happening with it?

His powers are regularly referenced to be corrupting any time he uses them, and it'd be shitty writing if that wasn't meant to be taken seriously along with everything else.
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For Subaru to turn villain he has first to show some malicious intent
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>>154898459
So eventually either he has to give up on using all authorities (including RbD) or go nuts.
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Also, do you guys think the witch's scent might be stronger now? Since he now holds 3 authorities instead of just RbD, which was enough to make Rem go nuts. Maybe once she wakes up she immediately goes nuts at his scent. Just a thought.
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>>154898622
He has shown some from time to time, sometimes jokingly and sometimes seriously. Being a tad malicious is also of his character as well.

But if we see something of Subaru being outright malicious then look no further than chapter 37 "First Urge to Murder"
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>>154898639
That's how it seems. Though it apparently he finds it easier and easier for to use the powers every time, something that worries him greatly. I think they also get stronger.

Personally, I suspect the reason why his Authorities are so weak right now is because he's only absorbed scraps of what the original Bishops had. However, the power is usually described in terms which make it sound alive and hungry, like something which feeds on the host to grow.

In short, the greater his power grows, the more of him it's consumed.
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>>154854135
Because wish fulfillment.
That being said subaru did get his shit handed off to him countless times for sperging and trying to act as your typical gary-stu MC, and even after all the shit he's been through he only got EMT and Rem interested in him.
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>>154898678
Well considering that Rem doesn't care about his scent I don't think it will be too bad.

All he needs to do is not click his tongue and cast explosions around her and he'll be fine.
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>>154854135
Can some one post the I'm nuclear webm?
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>>154898794
Well can you blame him for wanting to murder Roswaal for sacrificing his blueberry for his keikaku? He hadn't even used anything but RbD at that point. At most we could consider when he kills Ram when they get close to the sealed Satella, but I doubt that counts since everyone was tripping balls on witch miasma.

>>154898807
If he goes nuts because of overusing IP or Greed, can he recover from its effects by RbDing? I mean, it doesn't seem to be as big as a toll on his sanity as the others.
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>>154898880
Poor Rem, she was only eight years old.
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>>154898082
You can't assume that. Maybe he'll actually like the show despite the amount of stuff that got cut out and edited.
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>>154899127
When was the last time someone actually liked the show? Thought so.

Manga is another story though.
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>>154876786
>“The missing kids, that’s Luca, Petra, Mildo, and them?”
“Y-yes, them… Do you have any idea where they went?”
When the young man answered affirmatively, Subaru clicked his tongue and kicked the ground. His gaze shifted outside the village—toward the wall that separated it from the forest.

>Subaru clicked his tongue next to Rem
>didn't get killed

Welp, seems like Rem has no ptsd
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>>154899215
So it really comes down to explosions of some sort huh?
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So, LN vol 3 states Rem and Ram worked in the mansion for around 7 years.

I don't remember where the 10 years came from, but i think it was typesetter right? Maybe he confused the fact they were 10 years old with them working in the mansion for 10 years?

Cause if they were 10 or so, working 7 years there, would fit perfectly into the timeline.
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>>154899285
Nope. Rem's Very Ordinary Happy Day says "almost ten years". The back story repeats that they're eight years old on multiple occasions.

It's been retconned.
>>154899215
>Welp, seems like Rem has no ptsd
She's probably gotten over it.
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>>154854135
Emilia
>Everyone hates her cause she's a half elf and stuff so they think she's hitler.
Not unbelievable, ok. Subaru isnt unattractive and doesnt treat her like shit.


Rem
>At best, she's cute maid


That's about it. Not really "hot girls"
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>>154898955
>If he goes nuts because of overusing IP or Greed, can he recover from its effects by RbDing?
Well, that's the thing. These powers are different. They seem more tied to his soul than his body. If he resets, the effects follow him back.
>>154899355
Oh, and to back this up
>She had actually been living like this and wearing her maid outfit for almost 10 years.
>10 years----it was the same date and the same time when the oni village went into ruins and she and her sister Ram were found by Roswaal. For Rem, it was literally more than half her lifetime.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17zws_eQfdV4XcFbal-vRZmCB5u6n6E-MhM9Y9JZ1Q6U/edit
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>>154899355
>Someone shouts in a loud voice, and confetti exploded at the same time she heard something that sounded like air bursting. That scene was familiar to her. Ram squinted her eyes. And then──
>[Subaru: Hahaha, how do you like them apples? This surely supris──]
>Right beside Subaru, who who acted triumphant while laughing, an iron sphere came piercing through with tremendous force. The rotating dangerous weapon that had thorns on it just barely missed Subaru, and only the the sound of the twisting chains could be heard loudly throughout the mansion in the morning.
>[Rem: S─sorry, Subaru-kun! There was a sudden loud sound, and I just……!]
>[Subaru: ──]
>Rem brings the iron sphere back to her, as she reflexively tried to counterattack, and she ran up to Subaru, who stiffened up. Subaru feels his body, and after making sure that he was safe, he said
>[Subaru: I─I almost...died...there… right……?]
>[Ram: I forgot to tell you, but if you try out the crackers on Rem, you might even get smashed into pieces by this girl who thought it was a surprise attack.]
>[Subaru: Can you please deal with those sort of time bombs earlier!?]

I don't think she got over it.
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Subaru’s mind was invited to the land ruled by the black shadow once more.
There was nothing. Only his consciousness seemed to hover in space. Subaru dimly realized that he existed.
There was no one. There was nothing. Nothing began. Nothing ended. It was a world of no being at all.
Subaru felt like he had been cast into the sea at night. He let his mind float with the fickle sensation.
Abruptly, a change came over the world of darkness.
In front, directly ahead of Subaru’s mind, someone stood.
The shadow grew vertically. Before he knew it, a human silhouette stood before Subaru.
He couldn’t see its face. The shape was indistinct. But he vaguely thought that it had the shape of a woman.
The shadow wavered and slowly reached out a hand.
For some reason, when her fingers gently grazed his mind, Subaru wanted to weep. The wave of strange emotion washing over him suggested that he had always been waiting for her to do so.
He had an instinctive desire for the wriggling shadow to embrace him, to swallow him whole—and then it stopped. Something had stopped it.
Subaru’s mind realized that there was another shadow, its white fingers embracing him from behind.
Her touch felt soft, and not just warm but hot.
The instant Subaru felt that heat, the shadow before him rapidly faded away.
He faced his front. His heart trembled. He shouted ferociously. But the world of nothingness had no sound.
He was left behind as the shadow became distant, fading, fading away.
Finally, the shadow serenely stretched her fingers out toward Subaru, who was nearly in tears.
“—ve you.”
Even the words he could not hear faded, and the world fell apart.

==============================

This happens after Subaru loses consciousness and Rem hugs him happy that he's alive.

So the fact he saw Satella and Rem pulled him out are confirmed in vol 3.
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>>154899493
Man I hope Mazda doesn't lose it permanently. He's actually likable as a character since he feels like an actual human being, with realistic flaws. Then again, that's not very likely since Tappei wants a good end. It'll take another Zero Kara from Rem for him to get his shit together if he starts pulling a Juice.

Or even better, Rem giving up on him. That would be a neat twist.
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>>154899694
What the fuck? Why wasn't this in the anime?

This seems REALLY important.
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>>154876786
>If his own cowardice could be used as a tool, he’d use that, too.
>“I keep my promises and expect others to keep theirs—I’ll do aerobics with those brats again, you’ll see. That’s why I’m heading in.”

>Subaru keeps promises

kek.
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>>154896201

And the "actual" threads were turned into waifuwars shitposting so yeah.
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>>154854135
Because in a medieval setting where beta gets the natural selection, these kinds of guy is low on supply. Therefore seems high in demand.
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I see female weebs fawn over guys like him or Kirito, and I realize, god fucking damn, at least fujos have better taste in men
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>>154899748
The atmosphere in those threads are too tense now its stupid. I'd like to discuss about the series without people harping on my back like ESL. Plus the obvious baitposts that everyone seems to enjoy replying to that also plauge the threads.
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>>154899694
Why does he get so moved whenever meets Satella? He's always moved to tears when he meets a more corporeal form of hers, in both dream realms and between spawns.
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>>154899832
I'd also want to date a Subaru to be honest. Whenever he isn't around Emilia he is a pretty upstanding guy. Plus he's a good big bro/dad so.

Also fujos really like Subaru so the point is kinda moot.
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>>154899721
I believe it's also mentioned that Subaru is still a bit hopped up on the miasma from a previous loop when he resets at one point, and has to hold himself back from lashing out at Ram. He's a good guy, but the same applies to who half the Witches used to be

Echidna wanted knowledge she could use to save people. Now she has access to all the knowledge in the world, but she doesn't want to use it because she's now more interested in learning than knowing.

Subaru definitely isn't evil, and his intentions are still good for now, but we'll probably start seeing things creep into his mannerisms. Still,that's the kind of power a chuuni like him must have always dreamt about, isn't it? A dark occult power sealed within, slowly driving him to madness that he might eventually lose control of.
>>154899694
>This happens after Subaru loses consciousness and Rem hugs him happy that he's alive.
>So the fact he saw Satella and Rem pulled him out are confirmed in vol 3.
Foreshadowing for how the story ends, of course.
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>>154899694
God fucking dammit spfag lied to us again!

Also this is in the mega for me to read yeah?
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>>154899991
People may say the Rem is best girl but we all know Subaru is the real best girl.
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>>154899989
Most prominent theory is that Subaru and Satella have a past together, which is further reinforced by what she tells him in arc 4, like in pic related.

So when he sees her, or she touches him, he gets the feeling of deep love for her, and is moved to tears. He can't remember why, but somehow unconsciously he is aware.

We still don't know how that's possible though.
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>>154900149
That chapter will forever obliterate my sides. It was so awkward that it was hilarious.
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>>154854135
Jealous?
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>>154900162
Funny thing is Al feels the same way around Satella too. Its all kinds of fucked up but Satella could also be a slut.
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>>154899746
>Subaru keeps promises
He does when they're made with the Blueberry.
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>>154900059
Sure. That's why some generous fellow, who you should definitely show your appreciation for, put it there.There are some weird things with the translation, but I usually mentally edit things anyways.
>>154900059
What did he lie about here? He always mentioned that he was disappointed that the Satella scenes were gone. Did he do something silly like imply that was Emilia pulling him from Satella's shadow?
>It was like that hand had rescued Subaru from a bad dream, as if he were a little kid. No doubt someone had held Rem’s hand on some night when she seemed about to cry. Subaru couldn’t help but be happy, even giddy, that she had done the same for him.
Because, yeah. That other presence is definitely implied to be Rem.
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>>154900162
Which would explain his attraction to Emilia. Then again, it is also explained by his inner thoughts in the LN someone posted in this thread. And that she's his type. The most prominent theory is that he has something to do with Flugel, right?
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>>154900246
Funny thing. Your original post was still right.
>>154900194
>He dies when they're made with the Blueberry.
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>>154900149
>Also, the truth was that Subaru had reached such a high level of perfection with his crossdressing skills that it was sad.
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>>154900232
We don't know if what he felt for Satella was the same. No translations yet. He hesitated to attack, but otherwise the feeling he got was not properly explained in the summaries.
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>>154900232
>Witch of Envy
>Sealed away
>destroyed half the world

She just summons people from the other world and fucks with them cause she's bored. That "love" Subaru and Al feel is just Envy's authority probably.
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>>154900291
She's both his joy and his pain.
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>>154900316
HOLD UP

What if the goons in the witch cult are people who are isekai'd like Subaru?
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>>154900377
What if they are all "failed" attempts?
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>>154899694
>There've been multiple times Rem and Satella appear at the same time.
>Satella cheats by moving Subaru's checkpoint to make Rem's "death" irreversible and permanent.
>Satella and Rem are the only ones that call Subaru Subaru-kun.
At this point, I swear Satella has got to have something to do with the blueberry.
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>>154900377
>>154900401
That's some real scary shit you people are developing
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>>154900490
Petelgeuse was around during Satella's sealing and is a spirit. Nah.
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>>154900525
He said goons not the archbishops. It could still be in the air.
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>>154900525
He also "loves" Satella, so he's like a failed Subaru who couldn't handle the authorities he was given
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>>154900377
Well that would explain why there are so many of them and replenished so quickly.
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>>154900447
I swear to god if the Rem is Satella cracktheory is true somehow I'll eat my own shit.
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>>154900304
I read it, so I'll give you as good a description as I recall. Most of Al's reaction is hatred and fear. He perceives her as a thing that shouldn't be, a blasphemy to all things, transcending life and death. Seeing her image there fills him with rage, and he tries to strike her down. However, his strength fades from him every time he tries, until he's reduced to cowering as she slowly reaches out to caress him.

Now, the interesting part is how he reacts when Priscilla stabs her. He freaks out and gets angry for some reason. She beats him up a bit before he calms down, and he starts telling himself that the Satella he saw was just an illusion. That there was no doubt about that. Absolutely none.
>>154900447
Wait. Multiple times? I mean, I rather doubt Envy would be very fond of Rem, since Rem literally pulled her husbando away and made him sperg out when she called him Subaru-kun. But I didn't know it was multiple times.
>>154900552
So, the ones with the weird shadow melting powers who seem to have a crude form of teleportation, which is a magic impossible for most that not even the Bishops or higher ranking Cultists use?
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I don't think Satella's feelings for Subaru are fake, especially considering his reaction to her.

Al may be something like what he felt for her, and his visions what he wanted her to see in him. So basically the vision he saw, was just Al imagining her being affectionate towards him, but in reality it wasn't the case.
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“>You are too greedy. If you pick up too much, you might end up dropping everything on the floor.”
>“You’re here to make sure that doesn’t happen, Rem.”

How Subaru's "greed" will get solved.
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>>154900656
But Satella looks exactly like Emilia. What the fuck is going on? Every answer we get we end up with more questions
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>>154900662
So what Al felt was pure hatred and disdain, but there's a hint at something more after her illusion is broken, which i figure may be some form of affection.

Interesting.
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>>154900667
Al is absolutely horrified by Satella, and it's implied that it wasn't "just" an illusion, by how much Al has to convince himself that's all it was. He absolutely did not want to see her.
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Because those girls are written by cringy beta retards. How is this even a question? If they were written by women or non autist men they'd probably not want to be within a 20ft vicinity of this fuck.
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>>154900712
Holy shit
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>>154900721
I'd say what he felt was horror. However, there was something more even before the illusion broke. He couldn't actually bring himself to strike her, no matter how many times he tried.
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https://lemonwater123.wordpress.com/2017/03/22/chapter-1-a-fiery-night/
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>>154900712
Deepest lore
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>>154900779
Thank you for keeping us alive while we wait for summary anon
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>>154900779
Thanks Remon.
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>>154900779
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>>154900712
B-B-But Rem was the one to start Subaru's greed?
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Did summaryanon died?
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>>154900779
When did Rem become an amputee?
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>>154900712
Well shit. I never thought of it that way.

>>154900779
Thanks
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>>154900912
You can see her right arm behind her shirt.
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>>154854240
Kinda like life, honestly.
These last four months in the states have firmly dispelled any illusions I had about other people having something figured out that I don't. We've got two groups of people.
>Jackasses
>Jackasses who work 40 hours on minimum and then complain that they only have a few hundred in excess at the end of every month (a car/car loan is an excess unless you live out in the boonies, by the way). We know these as bernouts.
>Jackasses who are too busy working and making green to be proper jackasses.
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>>154900749
How do you explain Kazuma then?
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>>154900779

Bless you, time for suffering
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>>154900944
I was talking about her legs
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>>154900779
>The recurring theme is Rem being constantly left behind
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>>154900779
>Rom knew the village chief and Rem and Ram also saw him

I'm guessing he went there to tell the chief he's not longer looking to fight humans.
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>>154901026
Probably got her leg meats eaten like Otto did.
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>>154900955

>a car/car loan is an excess unless you live out in the boonies, by the way

Completely depends on the city.
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The only girl who's attracted to Subaru is Rem who's as socially inept in romantic relationships as him.
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>>154901026
I-I knew that
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>>154900779
Looking good.
>Ah and I forgot to mention that typesetter anon is transcribing this one too, so thanks to him for that. But just to clear up any possible misunderstandings, I do all the translation myself.
You're welcome. And yes, that's a misunderstanding that shouldn't be spread. I do read a bit while transcribing, but mostly to check for any obvious typos. If I don't do that, I make stupid mistakes with similar looking kanji that I can't necessarily distinguish at first glance.
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>>154900779
So Ram was a sassy sack of sass even when she was a little girl.
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>>154900779
>Rom is in this one

I fucking knew he was one of the giants
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>>154900377
They wouldn't be able to use fire magic unless they got isekai'd very early on in their lives. Subaru's gate went ballistic since he had never used it, and he was 18 years old.
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>>154901096
She managed just fine in teasing him
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>>154901183
That wasn't a secret though. It was pretty goddamn obvious.
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>>154901185
Doesn't Al use medium level earth magic? Are we sure it isn't because he is really shit at magic in the first place?
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>>154901211
Yeah, but I needed confirmation.
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>>154901185
Subaru is just really inept at magic.
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>>154901211
Funny how he is a doting grandpa to the royal bloodline that caused his race's extinction.
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>>154901212
He uses Al Dona that is the strongest earth spell
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>>154901212
Good point, out goes that option. Then if Satella does isekai everyone of those persons, what's her endgame? To be killed? That's why the Witch Cult was created in the first place? How do Betelgeuse and Flugel fit in all this? Why was Emilia so important to them 100 years ago?
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>>154901319
Children changes a man.
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>>154901067
So, would Rem have been married to a giant if her village hadn't got burned down and the onis had befriended the giants?
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>>154896201
Beautiful isn't it? I say we did a pretty bang-up job.
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>>154901443
Don't jinx it.
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>>154900779
Rem really has some shit self-esteem and is socially inept.
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>>154901417
I didn't reach that part yet but seriously? Is this real?
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>>154901515
The Arc 2 LN says she used to be treated like shit before Ram gained proper awareness and control of her power. Some of that may have been retconned, but there you have it.
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>>154854135
Because it's a harem fantasy, duh
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>>154901553
Seems like it
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>>154901553
No, he's just talking out of his ass. Rem is scared of Rom even.
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>>154901621
I didn't read the first chapters as closely as the later ones, so this will be fun to see.
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>>154901684
Ehem, I was joking anon. There's no need to take it too seriously.
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>>154900779
The chief is a fucking dick
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>>154901578
What said she was treated like shit though? I didn't read it, but i assume it would probably be Ram, or Subaru assuming.

If it is Ram she may just be talking shit, because she's an extreme siscon, and if it's Subaru it's probably him imagining what might have been the case.
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Che che che che che
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>>154900779
The demi-human war really fucked up all the other races huh?
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>>154901781
>The older twin was named Ram; the younger, Rem. Both occupied the lowest rungs on the ladder among the tribe.
>Their daily lives were far from pleasant. Even though their lives had been spared, they were still twins. Both were treated as hornless from the beginning and raised inhospitably by their people.
>In spite of their connection by blood, their own parents acted distantly toward them. Their fellow tribesmen did not hide their contempt for the two “abominations.” For both of them, it was the worst childhood imaginable.
>The hostility continued until the demons realized what they were capable of—or more precisely, until the older of the twins became aware of it herself.
>The most accurate term describing Ram during childhood was wonder child. She had talent that exceeded even that of great demons throughout their storied history. Indeed, their entire race was enthralled by the beauty of Ram’s horn, which allowed her to use a vast amount of mana in spite of her youth. Her demeanor was as forthright as the single, pure white horn on her forehead, lacking any hint of becoming drunk on her own might and potential, making it seem natural for their brethren to bow their heads before her.
Rem used to be treated like shit.
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>>154901941
This chapter could just not mention the time when Ram was not fully aware of her capabilities. Once Ram started getting a grasp of her abilities, both her and Rem stopped being treated like shit. Rem wasn't exactly treated like shit by anyone except the chief in this chapter.
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>>154900779
>“……..Rem has to deal with the boring duties, anyway.”
Just a question. Shouldn't Ram be talking about herself here? She's talking about her own boring duties in the surrounding context.
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>>154902018
All I said was that Rem used to be treated like shit. They stopped. She probably still remembers.
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>>154900779
Jesus Christ I've the level of dread just went up ten-fold. I actually feel uneasy reading that.
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>>154901941
It says that they were still treated as outcasts BEFORE she could grasp her own power and use it to aid the village, afterwards they could have lead normal lives.

Also some of it may be getting changed or something? I mean i find it weird that even the parents would thread them badly considering they didn't want them dead.
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>>154902084
That was my point. Rem knows that none of the change in treatment is due to her own merits.
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>>154856990
>How does one shut-in after getting isekai'd is suddenly able and willing to communicate with other people?

If I got a chance to do my life over I'd do the exact opposite of what I did the first time. Naturally that means actually talking to people.
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>>154900779
>[???: Ho…rn]

Why do they need it?
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>>154879844
What? Emilia was way hotter than Ram.
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>>154902173
I bet you its a more efficient way to manipulate or absorb mana hence why they needed it.
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>>154901881
The humans nearly went full genocide so yes.
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>>154902287
Emilia is bland
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>>154902023
"they probably would've been boring duties to Rem, anyway."

It should be Rem. I revised it now. I believe t's talking about how Rem would've felt bored if she came along
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>>154902614
Ram is pushing all the wrong buttons, my goodness.
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>>154854792
>he's basically a normie but not chad
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>>154900662
>Multiple times
Well Subaru even yelled about his RbD ability in front of Rem and made Satella appear so there's that.
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>>154902735
When did that happen?
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>>154902746
in episode 21. I forgot to mention it.
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>“To Master Roswaal, Rem and I are—”
>“Yes, to me, you and Rem are precious, vital, and irreplaceable…”
>As their words piled upon one another, so did their feelings as Roswaal beheld Ram with his yellow eye, pausing for a brief moment…

>“…pawns.”

>So spoke Roswaal to Ram in theatrical style.
>His words did not carry the slightest hint of guilt, for he was stating what he regarded as pure truth.
>And Ram, upon hearing her existence described as that of a pawn…
>“—Yes.”
>…her cheeks reddened as she nodded back.
What the fuck Ram? What the fuck?
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>>154902779
Wasn't that in-front of the White Whale?
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>>154902804
CLOWN COCKED I TELL YOU
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>>154902808
Yes and right next to Rem as well.
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>>154902804
Why isn't Roswaal dead again? Why does Ram love this man?
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>>154902735
Oh. So you basically mean that Subaru inadvertently introduced Satella to Rem on multiple occasions, even during the battle in which he was falling in love with her?
>>154902614
Well, keep up the good work. You seem to have gotten even better at this than when you started.
>>154902836
I'm just uncomfortable with how fine she is with Roswaal calling Rem a pawn.
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>>154902804
Cheeky Onis just can't beat the cock man.
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>>154902879
I'm more uncomfortable that Ram accepts Rem being called and used as a pawn.
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>>154902804
Yeah, Subaru is definitely going to kill Roswaal.
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>>154902879
accepting the exploitation of Rem is probably the worst part, Wtf nee-sama
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>>154902879
Yep. I feel like Rem and Satella have been mentioned together in a same scene quite frequently, coincidentally or not.
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>>154902804
>All these faggots that don't know the joy of being a pawn. And giant clown cocks
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>>154902804
Ram has some real shit taste in men. Dear god.
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>>154902898
And people have the audacity to call Rem "submissive" or a "doormat". Her attitude towards Subaru is at least a hundred times healthier than Ram's towards Roswaal.
>>154902951
That's what I said. Anyhow, it does come up in the same chapter where severed horns and Demon Beasts were discussed. Not sure if you're meant to read any implications into that.
>“As far as I have determined from the corpses that remain, the demon beasts were all hornless.”
>Roswaal exhaled at Ram’s reply. He leaned back against his chair.
>“The demon beasts I mopped up were the same. Howeeever, that makes this something far larger than an issue of mere noxious beasts, does it nooot?”
>“A demon beast with its horn severed will obey the one who severed it. That would mean some fool directed the beasts toward your manor or your lands in general, Master Roswaal.”
Though Meili's hair was also described as being brown. Did the anime retcon that? Was this an earlier draft that was given to the translators?
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>>154902879
>Well, keep up the good work. You seem to have gotten even better at this than when you started.

Thanks that means a lot
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>>154902951
>>154902879
That line coupled with some in Arc 4 really do make it seem like Roswaal planned to use Rem as a pawn in order to perfect Subaru... meaning her getting nom'd by Gluttony was something he expected.
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>>154903143
Yeah fuck that guy
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>>154903143
So, you're saying that the clown raised Rem to be Subaru's waifu, just so he could make him suffer deep loss?
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>>154903143
Roswaal never fails to make me even madder. I really hope he burns alive for all atrocities he's committed.
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>>154903143
Thinking about all the sins the clown has committed so far, I wonder how he would manage to redeem himself.
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He's going to get away with everything, and there's noooooothing you can do aboooout it.
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>>154903237
Nah, that one was Emilia. As Roswaal used her to lure him in and keep him in the faction. Its most likely Roswaal saw a spark Subaru and Rem had and used it to his advantage.
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Real women usually go for the top 20% of men. Then betas blame alphas for not being able to get any ass.
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>>154903237
Nah, the gospel probably only told him to pick them both up as both of them would help him in his objective. Gospels aren't very detailed, right?
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>>154854135

Because he´s the leader of anti-witch revolution, Roswall slayer, and who save the world. Compare how useless is Reinhardt vs Subaru.
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>>154903327
Not perfectly detailed, no. But he did help nurture her insecurities, the very same ones Subaru would later help her with.
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>>154903327
>/pol/ pseudoscience
You have to go back
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>>154903383
Then it might be the Gospel's keikaku unbeknown to Roswaal
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>>154903306
Nah, the clown definitely needed Rem. If it wasn't for Rem, Subaru would have run away eventually after a few loops in Arc 3, Emilia would die, and his chance for reviving Echidna and killing the dragon. Rem was brought into the mansion for that sole moment, probably, but not as far as he knew.

>>154903383
The gospel told him to most probably. I wonder if this Ram and Rem backstory will show the moment when they made their contract over the gospel.
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>>154903383
That doesn't sound good at all.
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>>154903306
What if Rem was the actual one that Roswaal used to bait Subaru and keep him in the faction but Roswaal didn't know about it because he completely forgot about her due to the Gluttony effect, so he went with Emilia instead?
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>>154903383
So you're telling me Roswaal is still winning with his twisted kekaiku?

That both Emilia and Rem were raised in such a way that would keep Subaru in the faction? Because that's really fucked up and upsetting.
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>>154903126
There's only one obvious thing that stuck out, because it made the paragraph look weird.
>Flames even bursted out from the kitchen,

>so heading over there would be suicide. There was no one in the house. That’s what she concluded.
Is the spacing meant to be weird like that? While I'm on this line, "bursted" should just be "burst". Bursted isn't a word.
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>>154903506
I REFUSE
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Roswaal will get away with everything.
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>>154903506
Anon no. My poor heart can't take this kind of trauma.
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Emilia clearly is Roswaal's intended bait given the events in Arc 1
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>>154903520
This Clownman operates on so many layers of keikakus.
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>>154903506
Holy shit would that be a twist
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>>154903520
He didn't raise Emilia to be like this, she already was like this. He only met her 6 months prior to the story. But it's not impossible that he could twist her personality to his liking in those months.

>>154903506
So Emilia was the left jab, and Rem the right hook, or so to say. Falls pretty much in line with my headcanon was. Maybe we'll get an insight on that when Rem gets her name back, Roswaal will remember it, and Ram will see how fucked up he is and won't mind that Subaru ends up killing him.

>>154903609
She was the bait, Rem was to make sure he'd stay around.
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>>154903506
I can begin to understand how chestpain anon feels now
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>>154903609
No, anon. You don't get it.
They both are. It's called redundant planning.
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>>154903546
Fixed it now
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>>154903506
>>154903651
We are under so many layers of kekaiku I can't even think straight anymore

All my perspectives are crashing down upon me
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Given how Roswaal blindly follows the book, isn't it possible that Rem is the Gospel's bait?
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>>154903651
You fucking telling me there is a real chance that Subaru and Rem's relationship was artificially created as well? That its in-genuine? Fuck me.
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>>154903792
That's what we're concluding so far. And Subaru can't get out now with how involved he is with Emilia and Rem as of Arc 6.

Even if all this gospel-fuckery was revealed to both Subaru and Ram, they couldn't pull out now. Even if they killed the clown.

And as Ram won their bet, she can do whatever the fuck she wants with him, so when she discovers he sacrificed his sister for the sake of his ambition, she might very well tell him to go die. And he promptly does, and she gets out of her abusive clown relationship.
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All these hypotheses about Ram being Roswaal's target, so he could keep possessing his descendants was a ruse.
It was for bait for the RbD's wielder all along. It was Rem all along. Rem and Emilia.
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>>154903877
What is real anymore?
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>>154903877
It's more like the book acted like those compatibility algorithms and assured Roz he'd need the blueberry and EMT to hook up Subaru.
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>>154903899
>she might very well tell him to go die
Would she?
>“Rem has…fallen in love with Barusu.”
>“Mm?”
>“It would seem Barusu has…grazed all of Rem’s weak points.”
>Rem was the younger twin sister. As her older sister, Ram was painfully aware of her younger sister’s state of mind. Put another way, she knew all too well that it was not in Rem’s nature to be honest with herself.
>“Rem has, has she? Weeell, perhaps it is not so mysterious. After all, she does not serve me out of loyalty, unlike youuu.”
>Ram remained quiet before her master’s assessment of her younger sister in silent agreement. Unlike Ram, who loyally served Roswaal without asking anything in return, Rem viewed that as a betrayal of the self.
>To Rem, Roswaal was very much “Sister’s patron.” Since her sister was her very purpose in life, Rem’s thought process never extended beyond that. It was that line of thinking that made Rem so reckless and rash when it came to defending her community; take your eyes off her, and she’d eliminate anyone she viewed as a threat to it without a second thought.
>Ram believed Subaru had been saved because he’d gained Rem’s trust before she could assault him.
>Of course, all that being said, Ram still regarded Rem as the cutest little sister in the whole world, someone more important than Ram herself.
>—But if someone asked her if Rem occupied the highest pedestal in her heart, Ram could not simply nod and agree.
>“Regardless of Rem’s feelings, you shall remain firmly in my hands, Ram. Where you go, Rem shall invaaariably follow. You seeee, things shall be as before. Nooothing will change.”
Key line here.
>—But if someone asked her if Rem occupied the highest pedestal in her heart, Ram could not simply nod and agree.
What the fuck nee-sama?
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>>154903792
I wonder if the Gospel also told Roswaal to convince Rem to go with them to the capital in arc 3 so Rem would become an emotional pillar for Subaru later on and make him become Rem's hero and tie his support to Emilia's faction.
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>>154903651
I don't know what to say

Here I was sitting and believing that Rem and Subaru being a couple were something by chance, something that defied fate. Not part of some deliberate kekaiku. May god have mercy on us all.
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>>154904034
Roswaal needed an emotionally vulnerable, yet resilient, Subaru who wouldn't even consider the possibility of giving up or running away, which would have instantly ruined all of his plans.
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It's all part of Satella's twisted plan. Even Roswaal is just a pawn in her fucked up witchery.
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>>154903651
I really, really hope that Ram wakes up to what a shithead Roswaal is once she remembers her sister. If not, then she is as irredeemable as the clown.
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>>154904071
Roz's sleazeball planning is the gift that keeps on giving.
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>>154904071
I'm not sure how much keikaku went into it, as one would think the idea of Subaru falling in love with her in return would go against Roswaal's ideals that he wanted to thrust upon Subaru. So, I think he might not have fully predicted everything about how things turned out.
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>>154904018
On the other hand, wasn't stated that Rem is the only thing she wouldn't let Roswaal have?
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All this possible twisted planning by Roswaal reminds me of Fremy and Adlet from Rokka No Yuusha again

Subaru is fucked by a possible love spell on Emilia and Rem deliberately planned to be together.
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>>154904018
Ram confirmed irredeemable.
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>>154904187
Something like that, yes. In one of the short stories with Emilia, that's in her internal monologues. He still obviously allows Roswaal to manipulate Rem through herself.
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>>154904034
Bullseye.
Nothing he ever does is a coincidence.

>>154904104
>>154904185
And he becomes emotionally vulnerable during Arc 3. The resilience is some Rem slapped into him with her Zero Kara. It's perfect. All that's left is to direct Subaru's focus to Emilia and only Emilia. How does he do it? After Rem sets Subaru on the right path, take her away. Proceed with cornering him at Sanctuary with Elsa fuckery, so he will focus only on Emilia. It's perfect.

>>154904018
I may like someone a lot, but if that someone fucks over another person I cherish, I don't like I'd keep liking them all that much.

>>154904138
Keikakus within keikakus within keikakus. What is this, Bleach?
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>>154904234
>Even Nee-sama can't be trusted

Rem can't handle that much!
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>>154904234
Or more accurately, that while she'd give her mind, body, and soul to Roswaal, she'd never hand over her little sister's fetters to him.
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>>154904256
*I don't think I'd keep liking them all that much
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>>154904172
I need him to stop giving
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>>154904256
>so he will focus only on Emilia
Subaru doesn't do this even in the Echidna route. He might have broken Subaru, but he couldn't make him give up on any of the people he cares about. He couldn't turn him into a heartless bastard who would sacrifice anything and everything for the sake of one person.

He couldn't make him into another Roswaal. He just made him into a suicidal wreck.

I'm not sure Roswaal knew Subaru would actually start loving Rem in return.
>>154904268
Arc 4 would have been fucked up if Rem was there to have everything directly shown to her.
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Fucking hell anons you are just straight up butchering me right now
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>>154904256
The kekaiku that keeps on kekkaikuing
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>>154904256
>>154904441
DEEPEST LORE
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>>154904441
>I'm not sure Roswaal knew Subaru would actually start loving Rem in return.
Possibly. Subaru's reaction might've been too intense than his initial intentions. But it worked, and the fuckery in Arc 4 would have probably set up Subaru as another Roswaal if not for Satella of all people and Otto. His endgoal wasn't the Echidna IF per say, but it was close.
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>>154903506
Stop this at once!

Their love is genuine! GENUINE I TELL YOU!
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>>154904528
I'd say that the moment Subaru falls in love with Rem, and can't decide between her and Emilia, is the moment it becomes impossible for Roswaal to mold him the exact way he desires.
>>154876786
Oh. And it's interesting to note that Oni fingernails lengthen into claws when they go Oni-mode. I was seeing "Oni claws", or kisou, being used while I was transcribing. That's interesting to know.
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>>154904441
But what if he did? What if that's what causes Rem to turn into Envy?

Crack theory time?
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>>154904672
I think Emilia is more envious of Rem than Rem is envious of Emilia.
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>>154904573
Doesn't stop it from being genuine, it just means that the clown probably helped a little with getting then together.

Just remember, this is all speculation.
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>>154904744
I'd say that out of jealousy Rem becomes Sad while Emilia becomes upset
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>>154904744
Hard to be envious when you're potato'd.
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>>154904848
She was never too envious of Emilia after arc 2, on both the short stories and during arc 3.
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>>154904230
Nee-sama and her husband are shit! The only way for nee-sama to redeem herself now is to hook up with Otto the Jew.
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>>154904228
So who is Nashetania and who is Fremy?
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>>154904924
Nashetania is Emilia. Rem is Fremy.
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>>154904924
fREMy, I mean even the name says it
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>>154904573
This. I'm pretty sure if anything Roswaal didn't expect Subaru to love Rem at all. Remember how he talked about unchanging emotions in Arc 4? He thinks people will always stay the same, and he fully expected Subaru to stay entirely in love with Emilia. In fact, he didn't give any shit about Rem which is why he straight up sacrificed her like a pawn.
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>>154904790
True, but the arguments being made are really compelling, that it can actually be passed off as something that might be revealed later on in the arcs. As there is a good bit of evidence to back it up.
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>Ram is such a doormat she'll let Roswaal abuse and use her sister
I didn't know secondhand hate was a thing.
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>>154905012
FUCK
DEEPEST LORE
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>>154905046
The faster the clown dies the better
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>>154905012
This actually holds water because the closest his plan was obliterated was in the "From Zero" speech, if they had gone the Natsuki Rem route. If Rem's feelings had tipped slightly in that moment, Roswaal is fucked.
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>>154905094
Pretty much. If they ran away all of Roswaal's plans would've been straight up fucked. Only because Rem didn't want to run away from her problems, and wanted the same for Subaru, did they choose to stay.
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Thank you anons for giving me one of the most exciting discussions about this series I've had in a month.

If only it was like this everyday. Sucks it will go back to what it once was once ESL comes around.
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>>154905134
I can only imagine what went thru' Roswaal's mind when he realized his RbD vessel had gotten the fuck out of Dodge with the Blueberry in the Natsuki Rem version of things.
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>>154905094
Oh yes. Rem would have agreed to that if she felt that was what Subaru truly wanted in that moment. So yeah. Subaru properly falling for Rem probably wasn't in his plans.
>>154905170
I think we have enough backstory chapters for a new thread, if we need one.
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>>154905274
Probably hunting down and planning on burning Rem's village. Again.
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>>154905274
>pic related
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>>154905316
Man, we only make the big thread when summary anon's translations come out. Tradition and all that.
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>>154905319
Something must have happened to him, then, because I doubt he'd wait so much time to get things back on track.
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>>154905274
Despair, but also despair. Probably let himself die after Emilia died at the hands of the cult.
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>>154905354
*nah,

>>154905361
Maybe he got killed by Puck or Reinhardt?
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>>154905354
Let's just comandeer some other Re:Zero shitposting thread.
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>>154905319
>Roswaal shows up one day after finally tracking them down, unable to make any proper use of his Gospel because of how the timeline shifted.
>Rigel and Spica are the only survivors, embarking on a new quest of retribution against the fucking clown.
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>>154905170
Kind of ironic considering this was a shitposting thread meant to hate on the series.
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>Subaru runs away with Rem
>Roswaal's gospel doesn't tell him anymore what to do
>Roswaal stops breathing
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>>154905012
Well I guess the Gospel was only telling Roswaal to make Subaru become an emotionally vulnerable and resilient guy without paying attention to his feelings for Rem, so perhaps that's why Roswaal couldn't foresee that Rem would come up with her keikaku and make Subaru's feelings change.
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>>154905389
Well there isn't any sadly so. Pus I don't want to go into one where people are praising the series as that'd look like another circlejerk. I guess we wait patiently.
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>>154905425
I'd honestly read that. Rigel and Spica's revenge quest. Maybe there can be more tragedy when they meet their Auntie Ram who survived somehow but is a shell of the woman she used to be.
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