New theory about this new arc (still probably wrong because who gets this stuff right?)
Kihara arc for Hamazura and Accelerator while Touma is dealing with Windowless Building. Of course, they'll all end up together at some point this arc and go after Aleister.
If this "Kihara arc" theory is true, my bet is on Yuiitsu's Kihara meme working on at the very least Salome and due to the infection, she goes after Accelerator and Hamazura. It makes sense considering she's already met Accelerator and Hamazura and fucked with them. The largest hole in this theory, which I acknowledge, would be why she'd bother them even with a Kihara infection when it seems like she has everything she wants.
I could see a new Kihara coming out to maybe see what Yuiitsu was all about, but what reason would they have to decide to go after Accelerator and Hamazura's girlfriend? Surely they'd know going after Accelerator would be suicide unless they knew high tier magic could fuck him up and had a high tier magician at their beck and call. I could possibly see them going after Takitsubou out of interest or maybe in hopes to help spread Yuuitsu's plan
>new Kihara wants to use AIM Stalker and the Misaka Network to help Yuiitsu's Kihara meme spread through AIM somehow
Well that would certainly piss Accelerator and Hamazura off
i don't know but what i've literally been waiting for since WWIII is the inevitable meeting between Aiwass and Touma.
thats gonna be one hell of a ride when that goes down and it will most likely happen this next Arc if anywhere, maybe even being the climax of next volume.
I like the idea of a new Kihara that we haven't seen showing up and continuing Yuiitsu's meme plan even if Yuiitsu is dead. It makes perfect sense for her to spread her plan's idea to other Kiharas so that they may maintain it in the event she dies
If this this the case, hopefully people in these threads like this new Kihara so we don't have to put up with "waah waah this character is shiiiiiiiiiit" like we did with the magic gods, Kamisato, his girls and Yuuitsu for however many novels this arc lasts
If a new character provides enough reasons to dislike them then you'll have to put up with said criticism whether you like it or not. Kamisato, his faction, and Yuiitsu all fit the bill.
I don't think they're the best Kamachi has done and it's not like they hold a special place in my heart but I seriously don't think they deserved all the autistic screeching they got.
It was mostly people being butthurt about the magic gods not being all powerful stupidly over the top like othinus was for 6 volumes, that and kamisato going full retard 100% of the time, it got to the point people wanted nothing to do with any of that arc no matter how interesting some of the stuff was, such as Yuiistsu's insane wanting everything to go kihara plan.
Considering Kiharas are already a meme as Aleister has shown us we'll probably see more of them, just not as many as Yuitsu was going for, enough to fill the gaps that have been opened up though.
I can't wait to see the 3 of them in WW3.
There are like four good compositions at best that being the best, so it is completely possible. Raildex soundtrack is pretty lacking overall.
It would be distasteful to not adapt the whole OT. There are no good stopping points one what it is left to adapt, if Index 3 is happening, then S4 or movies should also happen.
Not to mention, they have made us wait 7, possibly 8, fucking years. We deserve it.
Is the 3 protagonist thing even still a thing? Kamachi has almost abandoned Hamazura since NT started outside of a few volumes where's he's just a side character and Accelerator gets about double that small amount of screentime.
It's an interesting possibility and one I thought might happen last arc but it happening this arc is good too. Even if there is no new Kihara, there's still room for the Misaka Network and/or Takitsubou to be targeted. There was a thread in which we basically proved without a shadow of a doubt that the Will of the Misaka Network was bullshit, so I'm expecting that to come up at least
Are we really going to tap dance around this all night like scared kittens or are we going to address the elephant in the room? Index three is going to be a bit of a challenge don't you think when Mikoto'a VA is dead.
It got shifted into Zashiki Warashi.
How are her pants even staying up?
Best guess for how this arc will play out
>Something about Touma's arm will be revealed during a conflict
>Will of the Misaka Network will fuck up the Sisters
>Takitsubo will be messed with
Takitsubo will likely be screwed with by someone fighting Aleister but not on the good guys' side. Possibly a new character, possibly a character from a previous arc, where as Touma's arm mess and Will being a problem for the Sisters will be Aleister's doing
We're all going to be 404 one day. I wonder what it's like to not exist.
I wonder if Yuiitsu coming back to fuck with Takitsubo the end of NT18/early NT19 would cause more rage. Add in a few of Kamisato's girls becoming Kiharas and helping her and you'd have some strong rage
Nobody usually plans on dying. It just sort of happens and it can happen any second if you're lucky but sometimes you just get old and die. I don't think death is taken seriously enough in anime.
Kamachi sinshe will not "compressed" S3
fact Heavy Object Anime only coverage 3 volume of his Novels, (+) He adds Original Stories at the end.
Kamachi very perfectionist in details
He doesn't wanna 'you' miss anything..
Nobuhiro Nakayama sinshe (@Hegame) / Our WB producer told me, Kamachi recall severals episode in HO because:
~forget to put some Orange(s) in Froleytia kotatsu (miss details)
~they want to hide or cut Qwenthur touch Froleytia Boobs scene, to pass PG13
I reply to whatever snippet of it I can decipher. I can tell he's trying at least and it sort of helps that he's got a trip so I don't wonder if several anons have suddenly come down with a stroke
You are literally being baited by mobileposter. When mobileposter isn't being obvious, they'll sometimes latch onto a post or idea and shit up the thread without images. I've seen mobileposter spam a whole thread with "Accel manga isn't canon" with no images and no one taking the bait
Hello mister science man. This whole thing started because that one anon couldn't control his ADHD/Bipolar disorder when I asked why he was being rude. He just exploded for no reason so it's not me baiting anybody.
Presumably a bog standard Kihara or a few, we've been dealing with "unique" Kiharas with Enshuu Yuitsu and Noukan (hell Kagun too if you want) for a while now so I feel like a few ones that play smaller parts in the story are due to show up, ones that manipulate certain aspects of science into unethical forms.
Remind me is Gensei Railgun only?
It is possible that Amata's son isn't a Kihara though seeing as the Kiharas are not related by blood. It might be more interesting to have someone raised by a Kihara who isn't one themselves in fact. Thw unique environment fucking them up and giving them an altered viewpoint, much like Kamisato had a very odd view of what was normal and who to blame for his problems (which is probably Laura's fault, still waiting on that reveal).
I want to know why Accelerator is considered an expert on them. His time with Amata, while it may have given him experience in the Kihara world, shouldn't have made him an expert alone.
That alongside more antagonists doing things like Kagun pulled in NT4, purposefully doing activities outside of Touma's scope of perception because they need people to die for their goals to be fulfilled. The whole meta explanation of the safe zone around Touma was an interesting take in how it was treated as a real phenomenon and not dumb luck and actively worked around.
Hishigata is Amata's son using his mother's name instead of Kihara
Theory time: Accelerator was originally intended as a Kihara safeguard, like Noukan was for immortals. However, his agreement to Sisters, his defeat and connection to Last Order qualified him for the Main Plan
It's too long and the plot is literally one of the most boring in all anime history and most of the characters from what I read are bad. I also can't read it on my phone anywhere. I'd have to sit in my room like a lab rat and read it.
I just don't like that I can't talk about one of my favorite anime series anymore because the only fans left strictly only read the LN. I'm forced to bear the weight of this burden on my heart forever.
But Accelerator wasn't on a rampage when Kihara and his goons attacked. Following your theory, Aleister said "get Last Order and kill Accelerator" when neither were doing anything wrong and then said "oh lol I shouldn't kill Accelerator yet"
so WTF u doing here?
I didn't say when it was that Aleister decided to keep Accelerator. He needed to take LO to use Fuse Kazakiri when Vento showed up in either case. The point is that either Aleister didn't give a shit about Amata because he wasn't anything special, or that even were he a safeguard, once Accelerator got so attached to the sisters he didn't see a need for Amata and allowed Accel to grow fighting him, not giving any support to Amata in either scenario.
That picture is what Othinus would look like without her "magic makeup" btw.
You got the wrong picture mobile poster, this is what Othinus would look like without magic
You stupid idiot! I'd love to do that. I've been waiting for somebody who wants to read it little by little and discuss the chapters. We can have a thread every Saturday for the chapter we finish.
Considering Aleister has a back up plan and treats Accelerator like shit I'm wondering if part of his plan all along isn't to kill Accelerator and use the soul as whatever he needs.
We can't use these threads. There's no way that would work. This stuck up fanbase would spoil things just to spite me and make fun of the fact that we're not caught up. I guarantee it.
He's a mormon. I don't know why I know this.
At some point perhaps, he definitely sees some use out of him though.
Don't pretend you haven't already seen plenty on these threads. Not to mention you'r an admitted wikireader, clearly you couldn't care less.
Okay anon. Let's start where the anime ended. What chapter is that?
>While people are currently discussing
No, bless them, child
>I'm technically not allowed to be on my phone on sundays.
You can start reading from chapter 40, which is incidentally Kongou's introduction.
Do we really have to do this from the start? Just thinking about it gives me anxiety.
I was thinking we start where the series ended and do two chapters at a time and group up every Saturday.
If you actually want to do this we could start a weekly "Railgun Reread" and dump the chapters in a thread and discuss. If you're willing to discuss the actual chapter and not post spam we could have a lot of fun. Might as well throw in the Accelerator manga too. It won't be that bad if we do it together and have fun
I am absolutely fine with this. A fair warning though a lot of characters you go on about liking are either different in manga (namely Kuroko and Kongou) or don't exist (that red head guy that drinks milk)
Chapter one. Do Accelerator after Railgun discussion has chilled. We may go through 2 threads but that doesn't matter. Since this a re-read, I think we shouldn't post new content in these threads. Nothing more than a "hey x is out in this thread over here"
So in other words when you finish posting the chapter and we all want to discuss it your going to start posting Accel?
On second thought I don't think this Railgun catch-up thread is going to really work. Why don't you all do Accel and let me know when it's over instead? That would solve most of the problem.
That's fine anon, I just won't go. It's not even a problem.
Our Railgun Manga
is not fully complete covered all tankōbon (stand alone/paperback volumes) Series
(e.g miss 6 pic's in Railgun Volume 10)
To Read complete series (Omake+Bonus etc) you need read the Japanese RAW
Railgun Manga Japanese RAWs Volume
Vol.3 & 4 http://www.mediafire.com/file/e16kuxnx1vnxluc/To_Aru_Kagaku_no_Railgun_v03-04.zip
For To Aru Majutsu no Index Manga RAW (Gangan)
Chp 76 to 109 (vol 13 to Vol 18)
INDEX 076-109 RAW.ZIP (434.41 MB)
Am I still supposed to believe no one died even after a heat wave followed by peoples rioting in a panic and getting shot by super high pressure water in the face, getting thrown off an overpass in the process, and getting finished off by a railgun shot?
already discuss month ago http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/153309505/
if you ever need the latest RAW, 109 to 115 we are willing to provide (soon)
How do you think secondaries are going to react to New Light?
I've been reading this and while I enjoy the story, the characters and the world I feel like the writing isn't great. Is this just a translation problem?
I notice things like lists that go on way too long and bits of information that gets repeated over and over again, I get it already, Acqua of the back is both a saint and a member of gods right seat, I don't need reminding every other fucking page
AnimeJapan is only a small possibility, I don't think anyone actually counts on it.
Fall festival is definitely the best chance we have.
The other one is Comiket, which is also not much of a chance, but still a possibly.
>Index I was announced in June as OT16 were released (June 4, 2008) and it aired fall of the same year
>Index II was also announced in June in Shonen Gangan (June 7, 2010) and it aired fall of the same year
>October 4, 2015
>Dengeki Bunko Editor: 'No Season 3 Yet' for A Certain Magical Index
>April 27, 2016
>A Certain Magical Index Producer: 3rd Anime Season Is 'Plausible'
>March 13, 2017
>A Certain Magical Index Editor: Please Wait a Little Longer for Season 3
If they crossed roads again sooner then Accel would suffer significant less.
I agree, let's have Saten smash Acqua of the Back with her super bat!
>Implying they even cared in the first place
Clones aren't people. Accel did nothing wrong and has been rewarded with two personal Misaka's for his trouble.
>thinking Accelerator had any but an illusion of a choice
It was a terrible situation for everyone. What good would it do them to not forgive him? Is hating him and making sure he knows he's hated as often as possible going to undo anything? Would it even make the clones "feel" better about it all? Of course not.
Let me guess, you want Mikoto to railgun Othinus to death while Sluten hits her with a metal bat, Uiharu types and shit just cuz and Shirai teleporting her dumb needles
>Mikoto railguning Othinus to death
Fuck yes, edgy cunthinus deserves nothing but suffering. And it's not like it could be worse than what we got from an artistic POV. Nothing could, in fact.
I think Aleister and the Kiharas simulating first the mental stability/instability of the subjects then do the tree diagram. So eventually they find somebody who do the experiment whiteout complain.
And Accel has standards so this maybe not the worst outcome.
That sounds like a pretty edgy post.
>nagaishit being better than source
I still can't believe we are getting a season 3. The past weeks we went from insanity and back to normal discussion like nothing happened. It all feels so surreal.
Had Mugino been the one to do it, every last clone would have died in a such a brutal manner that 10031 would have seemed peaceful. And she would have genuinely enjoyed and not felt sorry for a bit of it.
Mugino would be the first level 5 to die in this case. She would have never stopped the experiments unlike Accelerator, Touma knocking her ass out would do nothing and Mikoto would kill her.
>implying NT after vol 8 doesn't have even more atrocious writing than Nagai fanfics
So you say the Omega world is shit? That's some shit taste buddy.
Besides that I'd mostly agree but the volume where Kamisato gets his arm cut off and NT 17 were relatively good.
Would Mugino kill BROTHERS if she was in the experiment.
Jesus Christ I'm actually getting chills thinking about Mugino taking her time using Meltdowner on a clone. It's made even more nauseating by the fact that, unlike Accelerator, Mugino would have no regrets, desire to stop or fake enjoyment.
Thinking about it Meltdowner would be more than likely to cut of his right arm.
She would die getting devoured by dragons, not a bad deal
>the showdown not thrilling enough to make Mikoto yandere
>however, you has a loli now
I redid the typesetting and redrawing for Railgun chapters 82 and 83
So if you anons decide to do the weekly Railgun Reread and eventually reach those chapters, you can use these pages instead of the old ones
Oh hey, the best chapters of the arc. Thanks.
Are you faggots ready for the Itsuwa Jailbreak arc?
>her face is ruined due to Frendashit
I can't take it bros, does academy city have advanced healing technology?
>new chapters this weekend
>he's going to keep bleeding out
This is what she'll look like after she heals.
So how many chapters until the Index manga gets past the anime?
How plausible is it that Index 3 will be formally announced around the time it surpasses it?
Is S3 actually happening or did you all just finally break?
>In the world of Toaru Majutsu no Index, France has retained its long-held animosity against the United Kingdom, unlike in the real world where that particular animosity has mostly gone.
Kamachi why you do this, I know you enjoy it
>forced to skip two arcs entirely
>one of which is about Himegami, his favorite character
>Finally, after all this time, catch up to the ending point of the anime
>Season 3 gets announced immediately
Just better redrawings and typesetting. Old one is pic related
New one is >>154820848
The eyepatch must be a good conversation starter.
Mikoto would whore out Touma to Gunha maybe nuber 6. With Accel that would be awkward and Kakine is made of semen now.
if she wants tits she would rather call Mugino than Misaki.
I always skip Mikoto's pages and go straight to the parts where he fucks the other girls.
I'm surprised you skipped from Accel all the way to Mugino like that.
Anyway. Compared to the Accel situation, how much worse would it have been if Kakine was chosen to do the killing?
Gunha would probably be the most liked level 5 actually. I imagine Accel would be tsundere towards him in a similar way as he is towards Touma. Same with Misaka more-or-less. We saw in Railgun that Misaki doesn't like dealing with him, but she didn't particularly dislike him. Beetle would like him. Edgy Kakine wouldn't mind him as long as he doesn't get in his way. Mugino would probably dislike him the most, but still not as much as she dislikes Accel, Kakine and Misaka.
Gunha is the most lovable level 5. Then again that's something we all knew already.
>He would probably let Misaka go after getting attacked by her, especially if the clones intervened
>He would think nothing of Touma until his dark matter gets negated
>He either manages to back off and fly or take a full power imagine breaking to the face since Touma doesn't have to worry about instant death as much as with Accelerator
The situation would have new problems if Kakine manages to take to the sky, but all in all wouldn't be too much worse. Hell, Touma might have actually taken less damage.
Even then Misaki could still probably highjack a fuckton of lv 4's to go after her or some shit, mental out is stupid stronk limited primarily by the fact that all of the espers above her are literally immune to it.
Also, she could simply highjack the board of directors without problem and make misaka's life an absolute living hell to live in while in AC, or outside if some stupid ass saints ran into her.
Seriously Mental out is bullshit limited by how little misaki gives a fuck.
>Mental out is bullshit
As you said though, every relevant character is immune to it.
It's strong against fodder, but how is it bullshit?
>how little misaki gives a fuck
What do you mean by that?
as shown in the times shes shown up whether its in the manga or LN's, theres alot of silly shit she can highjack with her ability, and most of the time misaki seems to be fucking around doing clique shit using her powers primarily for menial bullshit.
Also i'm not even sure if Kakine is immune to mental out, he might actually go down like a bitch to it.
Like what? Again she can control a lot of worthless espers, but that's not going to be of much help when up against a truly strong opponent.
Mental Out is great for mind games and keikaku, but it's not good for actual fighting.
Kakine would probably find a way to overcome the brainwashing with some dark matter bullshit.
no cause its not a weapon.
also by the time he would activate it, if he didn't know beforehand about it, it would probably be too late.
Sudden attacks i imagine screws over knight leader severely.
It's only not going to be helpful for people like Accelerator. Control Kuroko, make her ignore her ethics and teleport a stake right into Misaka's chest, bam done. Only needed one level 4 to do it and she can control about a hundred simply or 10 finely.
Not him but
>mind control a teleporter like Awaki or Kuroko
>sneak up on Kakine at some point or catch him when he's sleeping
>teleport something into his brain
would be the most basic application. And honestly, if she threw the majority of Tokiwadai at him, I could see him having some trouble trying to keep track of the sheer amount of shit being thrown at him. This isn't even bringing up possibilities like magicians having immunity or not. If she could control saint or some bullshit, the odds go to her favor.
Now, DM Kakine would wipe the floor with her. But Pre-Beatdown Kakine has the possibility of getting fucked
Different anon but i hold her best use would be actually get dragged into the series, learn magic and she could highjack people to use it so they get the strain of magic bullshit happening.
it would probably put her on footing with accel.
not that its ever gonna happen mind.
Dark matter is weird man.
If Mikoto could at least hold back a saint, Kakine is enough to defeat them. Dark matter is excessively versatile, if Kakine was more creative he could fuck a lot of shit up, but even lacking that he is still a force to be reckoned with. He isn't known as the #2 for nothing
Yeah, if she fights by proxy then sure. I just meant that the direct applications of mental out are versatile but not useful in a fight, hence why it's not a "fighting" power
She could easily gain a lot of influence within AC if she wanted to, but if she can't use a proxy she's fucked.
Breaking news if you can't use your mind control on someone to instantly beat them or get someone else you've controlled to fight them for you, or take their family hostage or any of the other way a non direct power works you're out of luck in a fight. More news at 11
Mikoto was put in a highly advantageous position with preparation. I'd say Kakine might beat a Saint but he'd be on a similar level as fighting a Saint going easy on you like Mikoto did would
>DM Kakine would wipe the floor with her
Why? DM's strength is sheer quantity. Misaki has the same kind of advantage, she can just throw endless level 3 and 4 espers at Kakine until she counters him (or he counters her, could go both ways)
Mikoto hard countered arguably the weakest saint, and still couldnt do anything.
I'm not saying Kakine isn't deserving of his spot, I'm just saying Misaki really shouldn't be underestimated. Her power is inherently variable, and is theoretically just as versatile by commanding so many people with powers. Actually, not even powers. She could just as easily co-op a bunch of snipers.
Simple. For starters, Misaki doesn't actually have an endless supply. She would eventually run out of Level 3-4s. Even if you gave her Magicians and such, she will, inevitably, run out. DM Kakine can truly create endless amount of himself.
And second, is the fact that nobody knows where the fuck the original brain is. Which gets rid of easy strategies like telefragging, snipping, etc.
He comes out of it unscathed in the end with no permanent damage, I don't see how that's not wiping the floor with her just because she threw lots of esper attacks that do nothing at him.
He was able to put up a decent fight against Accelerator. Accelerator could shred all the saints coming at him at the same time too, so being able to manage just this is enough to say that he could beat a saint 1 on 1
DM Kakine is on similar levels of Saintrape such as Accelerator, but Pre Kakine could at least kill one.
How did she? I don't think she ever did, it's only theorized that since Misaka's electromaster powers allow her to keep her own mind intact and Mugino manipulates electrons it might be similar.
What if current Touma is just getting closer to how he used to be fighting-wise, I need these two to meet because I might get some answers.
and he might get a little sister that breaks illusions with him
Yes, but what he wants is to make a bunch of oversized beetles and grow angel wings instead of something that's actually useful.
Leave it to me Touma-oniichan!
>Drives a bus into some random shitter
Exactly. Kakine's power is like a Green Lanterns in that constructs do rely on the creativity and knowledge of the uses
He just makes angel wings and beetles and bugs. You know perhaps that reveals part of his backstory, perhaps he loved to play with bugs as a kid or something.
>like a Green Lanterns
It's much more versatile though.
It doesn't just create material, its possibilities are pretty much infinite. The matter it creates can have absolutely any kind of property imaginable.
>You know perhaps that reveals part of his backstory, perhaps he loved to play with bugs as a kid or something.
He's just chunni. Hercules Beetles are considered cool in japan. Christianity and angels are considered cool and exotic too. He's just trying to be cool.
It does, it's just two special chapters so it's not numbered. Alot of people miss it. It's between chapter 17 and 18. It's on mangapark at least.
I didn't ask, I'm just pointing out that you're wrong.
Get fucked, faggot. Chapter is "a certain two people's job training"
A lot of people in OT lucked out since he was told that he was basically a selfless pariah of the people. If he was told that he was some back alley delinquent that used to be treated like the devil, his manner of helping people might have been a whole lot less wholesome.
If you knew it existed, why didn't you just find it yourself? Now I'm kinda curious as to why people never bring thi manga scene up when they imply the anime ruined Kuroko and she's less annoying in the manga
No in fact it makes all the more sense because if you read the manga first this scene would still be there, and as such the scenes that are new to them, as in the anime only scenes like trying to drug Misaka are clearly what ruined her.