Got any thoughts on this? How different is it from the show?

It was garbage. Completely ruined Shinji's character and all of the psychoanalysis scenes that made Eva interesting.

>>154793545
If you like Rei you'll like it

If you like Asuka you probably won't

>>154793947
Good

>>154793545
Don't listen to
>>154793947
>>154794008

both retarded asukafaggots. Manga is good in the beginning, but goes south in the last volumes. It goes nowhere and is a waste of time, copying EoE but leaving out the actual characterization and meaning. It has a reset end.

>>154794108
I just wanted to point out how they really fuck over Asuka as she jobs hard to the MPEVAs instead of putting up a good fight

>>154794223
She jobbed harder against the MP-EVA's EoE, Asuka was far more of a joke in NGE. Manga was nice to Asuka, but of course anime Asuka is a better character, same goes for Shinji, Rei and everyone else except Kaji.

Shipper retards only care about "muh shinji x asuka", a shit tier pairing which shits on Evangelion, you aren't supposed to do this escapist shit retards.

it's better and actually has an ending.

>>154794302
>being this mad over the OTP

>>154794302
>She jobbed harder against the MP-EVA's EoE

How the fuck is getting hit by an unblockable spear jobbing?

Manga Asuka is struggling to beat any of them where EoE Asuka straight up beats all of them until they regenerate

>>154794422
*asides from the first ones she attacked which were a shot for shot recreation

>>154794372
>anime strongly warns about escapism
>OMG LOOKSIE AT MY FANFICTION ABOUT TEENAGERS I USE TO GET AWAY FROM MY OWN LACK OF SEX AND LOVE LIFE

Get a fucking life.

>>154794422
"Jobbing" is the act of fighting hard to show how unbeatable an enemy is. The point was that the MP-EVA's could never be defeated by Asuka. The MP-EVA's were giving her an easy time, toying with her. The harder Asuka fights, the more powerful and dangerous the MP-EVA's come off as.

Asuka never beat them up, they beat her up and rended her flesh in a scene it's director refers to as "gangrape".

I swear you Asuka fans have a sub-zero IQ or something.

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>>154794543
>The point was that the MP-EVA's could never be defeated by Asuka

But she was beating them. All of them

https://youtube.com/watch?v=YNKCZFNAED0

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>>154794814
She wasn't beating them. They could have ganged her any time they wanted, or a single MP-EVA could have used their spear to wreck her. The fact is that she lost, and the MP-EVA's were far out of her league.

What Asuka did in EOE, was to "job hard", as you put it yourself. Harder than in the manga.

Troll harder, guise.

>>154794814
Just like Hillary won the election, right? Delusional retard.

>>154795027
why
it worked

haven't watched anime since 2012 kek

>>154793653

>>154793947

>>154794223

>>154794319

>>154794372

>>154794422

>>154794538

>>154794772

>>154794814
all me btw

>>154793545
wasn't shinji less of a wimp in the manga

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>>154794968
>literally curb stomping MPEVAs
>About to crush the core of the last EVA
>gets hit with plot device fake spear
>runs out of battery
>cannot move
>this is somehow jobbing

Hey she still struggled even into death in EoE, Asuka just let Shinji save her in the mange

Manga Asuka literally sat on her ass while Shinji yelled about how he had to protect her and started 3rd Impact for no real reason

>>154795027
>>154795158
>>154795309
Why are Eva threads so shit

Reifags ruin another thread

>>154795398
EVA threads are shit because of posters like
>>154794814
>>154794772
>>154794422
>>154794372
>>154795885

and you (>>154795398) of course. Why? Because you're unreasonable morons who refuse to spout anything but your own masturbatory fanwank.

First, you complain about manga Asuka "jobbing". It's then pointed out to you that EoE Asuka "jobs" even harder, especially in the series. Then you get butthurt because you prefer your fanfiction over NGE. This is the problem with every EVA thread, people with your mentality.

Let's recap on what "jobbing" is:
"Jobbing" is the act of fighting hard to show how unbeatable an enemy is. If Vegeta or Yamcha, who are undeniably strong, fights a hard fight against a given foe, and is then promptly destroyed by the enemy unleashing his or her true powers, they are jobbing. Their fight served one purpose, to showcase the superiority and strength of the enemy.

This is what happens in EoE. The MP-EVA's initially do not fight Asuka, but just look at her while she is allowed to attack first. Then they attack her one by one, instead of all at once. Asuka does not destroy the enemy's core, she only stabs or maims them. EVA's are known to regenerate, refer to many such scenes in NGE, and the MP-series are the pinnacle of EVA technology at the time. So when the MP-series decide to actually fight Asuka, she loses. When they decide to attack her all at once, or use their weapons, she loses.

Calling the MP-series "plot device fakes" just because they raped your shitty waifu is just a chilish tantrum thrown by a disgusting Asukafag that can't deal with the harsh reality.

The point of the fight was to show that Asuka had no chance of defeating the MP-series. The harder she fights, the more effort she puts in, the stronger, the more potent the MP-series appear. This is why Asuka jobbed HARD in EoE, and if you think about it, that's her entire career right there.

>>154796162
Still better than her suiciding like the doll Rei

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>>154796292
Rewatch NGE some time. Asuka is a doll who attempted suicide. Rei actually succeeded at killing herself and the enemy, and then came back to life five minutes later.

They punch in different weight classes, you can't really compare.

Asuka: Weak doll with no personality of her own, can only get by on the pity of others
Rei: Strong individual with a personality of her own, can develop and get by on her own

that said, Rei is introverted and quiet while Asuka is extroverted and noisy.

>>154796474
Ok, you're just trolling now.
The whole point of Rei is she's a creepy puppet and escapism. Which is why she has to be killed at the end and Asuka is alive.

>>154796474
>Asuka: Weak doll with no personality of her own,

Not the other guy, but this indirect parallel gives both of them great character

Even goes down to the replacability aspect. Asuka feels replaceable and fucks with her

Rei is quite literally replaceable and doesn't care

>>154796614
No, that's fanwank that doesn't even make sense.

- Asuka spends her life refusing to confront her own problems, resorting to escapism to avoid them. She keeps playing at being "the best eva pilot", and that's her entire life. When they take it from her, she collapses.

- Rei spends her life confronting all of her problems, not running from them but tackling them straight on. When someone tells her something she doesn't like or doesn't know about herself, Rei actually considers it instead of brushing it off with a rehearsed self-defense mechanism.

Take the Armisael/Arael scene. Asuka lashes out and throws a tantrum screaming that "it's not true, i dont want to remember". Rei does the opposite, she consider if that is what she really feels, and is then able to turn the tables on the Angel in pointing out that it feels the same way. The result? Asuka has to be saved by Rei, while Rei saves herself and Asuka in ep 23.

This is why Asuka's arc is about descent into madness as a creepy figure of the otaku lolita figure, and EoE puts the "cream on the cake" by having Shinji ejaculate to a doll Asuka who can't move or resist the otaku-standin's sexual abuse.

This is why Rei's arc is about unshackling herself from poor relationship and taking back what the story's oppressive patriarch has taken from her, her legacy as a Goddess.

Basically, if you didn't get that Asuka was a pathetic puppet with no personality of her own, you did not understand Evangelion. Ultimately, Asuka is alive in EoE for the exact same reasons she was alive in NGE, Rei and the rest of the responsible characteres took it upon themselves to save her.

>>154796729
See, you're right. Both different characters, but some people like >>154796614 can't appreciate why.

>>154796918
I like Asuka though as >>154796729 as she is the most human character with Shinji

She is a fucked up person like the rest of the cast, I like them all I can't see how anyone can consider any ONE character in the show as "bad". Like Misato or Rei or Gendo

in sum, nge is a shittier fappable blade runner

>>154797132
They are all equally human. The problem is that some readers and viewers can only understand and accept negative human emotion and behavior as human, despite the fact that we're perfectly capable of the entire damned spectrum.

>>154797233
Rei is clearly not human

>>154797271
Sure she is. The characters are all fictional, and are equally human in that sense - they aren't. They're fictional.

In-universe, she is the prototypical human in mind and conscious, down to a very base - Rei is perhaps the most human out of ALL characters, since her mind's and character's focus is on a question every single human capable of thought or reason has asked themselves, "who and what am I".

In-universe, genetically - definitely not. However I'd argue that hardly matters since the "humans" in NGE are also different from what we consider human in the real world.

I found manga to be more enjoyable for the most part, probably becasue Shinji with outward agression at least made him appear more proactive and less annyoing, though mor clicheish. And Kaworu introduction was done way better.

BTW was that extra chapter with Mari showing up ever eleborated on?

>>154797415
I think Sadamoto said he just wrote it in the manga on a whim without talking to Anno or the other staff

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>>154794319
>has an ending
no one actually thinks this

Why are Reifags the only good contributors in eva threads

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>>154797903

>>154796918
>having 0 assertiveness and bowing down to offenders until you're literally god, like the bullied nerd who finally gets to have his revenge, somehow means you're more authentic than someone who has pride and actual skills like every single non-sperged human
>b-but muh inner potential!! my inner self!!! i'm a little lazy shit but I swear I'm better than chad who is only good at football!
>all this projection

Jesus christ you don't even try to hide your autism and lack of human understanding, please go outside until you're cured of your literal retardation. And don't try to meme your way out of it

>>154800894
Stop responding to the crazy Reifag

>>154800894
What does any of this have to do with the post you replied to? Are you the one projecting?

>>154793545
It's interesting. I pretty much only read it for Sadamoto's art though.

>>154793545
Good!

It made Asuka x Shinji official!

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>>154793545

>>154803449
>Manga that's pro Rei
>"kills" off Rei

>makes Asuka's guide Kaji
>Try to force together Shinji and Asuka last second

This was very confusing at times

>>154793947
Hahahaaaaa

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>>154794302
All Asuka shippers grew up in white trash families, you can't blame their for their standard in romantic relationships.

>>154803449
By that logic it made Kensuke x Shinji official. Retarded shippers.

>>154806393
It's a Reifag falseflagger, don't take them seriously.

>>154806834
Fuck off Asukafag.

>>154806931
Fuck off Reifag

>>154806393
Fuck off fujo

>>154807110
Fuck off retarded crackshipper. Evangelion is not about your fanfuction.

>>154807110
>>154807153
Reifags fuck off

It manages to be worse than rebuild.

Ok, maybe not than 3.33...

>>154807314
Fuck off Reifag

>>154807337
Fuck off Reifag

>>154807153
fanfiction***
But yeah. I almost prefer fujos to faggots like you.

>>154800894
>>154801221
What the fuck are you even talking about? Asukafags are insane.

>>154807983
It's a meme

>>154808081
It's pure asukafag autism is what it is.

"They were toying with her" is a poor interpretation considering that kind of fuzzy logic goes directly against the idea of why the dummy plug was created.

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It had good scenes with Yui, where she's presented as a saint mother who actually loves her son and relies on him, it actually tried to give Kaji backstory, although basing it on survivor's guilt and later projecting that guilt on Shinji was retarded. I also liked some of Rei's antics in it and the ending with Asuka was kind of cute, although it doesn't make it less retarded and pointless, like our whole existence. In general it was shit and isn't worth reading. Shinji and Asuka's troubled relationship is cut out, Rei's intense schizophrenia is cut out, Kaworu is no more, we get Karl (although his behavior is fun and he's literally a textbook case on autism). Manga had funny scenes at the beginning but with the introduction of Asuka, just what did he do to her, that bastard Sadamoto-chan, it becomes a complete nonsensical pile of shit (much like in Rebuild). The art was nice though. In general, it's obvious that Yoshi-chan didn't want to finish it. Not worth reading.

And gee, just look at those assblasting faggots ITT. Eva's fanbase is pure cancer. We got the fujoshi on one side, subtly screaming at LAS shippers about "muh Kaworu", while LAS shippers openly scream at them about "muh Asuka". And on top of that we have our all-time favorite present: the reifag. Jesus, you people never learn.

>>154808184
Maybe the NERV dummyplug system was made for efficient kills, but the MP Evas are a lot stronger and have replica lances, so maybe they're not programmed to kill and dispatch quickly

>>154808222
Who mentioned Kaworu in this thread?

>>154808260
>subtly

>>154808287
What does that even mean.

>>154808323
Go learn some English, ESL-kun

>>154808337
I understand what subtly means, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

>>154807314
btw, seph, you did upload those extra scenes with Anno from Love and Pop? Can you post link?
>>154808375
I mean that this is a constant shipping battle

>>154808241
Efficient piloting isn't really the primary result of the dummy system, just plot armor that lets the Eva get stronger and ignore damage without triggering awakening.

>>154808260
>>154808323
>>154808375
It was never "subtle", as everyone knows this whole "le hetereosexual shonje" crap plus the "fuck off reifag" is Grade A kaworufaggotry on /a/.

>>154808492
Fuck off Reifag

>>154808492
I don't think a Kaworufag would try to argue Shinji is heterosexual.

>>154808548
It's an Asukafag, he admitted it but they still try to pin it on Reifags.

>>154808591
Fuck off Asukafag

>>154808591
They admitted to being a Reifag last month and only falseflag as Asukafags to make them look bad

>>154808222
Its sad that one of the staples of /a/, the eva thread, has degenerated to this level of faggotry

>>154808617
Please

>>154808591
This, and the kaworufags joined in. They should kill themselves.

>>154808635
It was always like this

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>>154808733
Yeah, Reifags were always cancerous

>>154808617
Delusional retard. Fucking no one buys it.

>>154808753
>I am more depressed now than I was when my fucking grandfather died
Reifags are human trash.

>>154808635
Eva thread quality is inversely proportional to the amount of asuka and kaworu fans in them.

Particularly in the 2004-2006 era you could find good threads. 2007 was the year things started going downhill in general for /a/. It turns out Asuka and Kaworu attract the worst types of fans, sort of like furries and My Little Pony fans. Absolutely incurable individuals.

>>154808617
Embarrasing, asukafags and kaworufags are shitposting so much they try to pin it on Reifags now.

>that samefagging reifag
When will the suffering end? It makes me regret to be a human being

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Talking to yourself isn't going to convince anyone

>>154808891
No one is samefagging except you. Kill yourself.

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>>154808753
>oficial canon Gainax/Khara confrmed guro rape porn
Wait, what?

>>154808891
And now he's pretending to be other characterfags, it's getting embarrassing to watch.
Basically ACK of the Eva fanbase.

>>154808905
Fuck off reifag

>>154808617
https://desuarchive.org/c/search/text/reminder%20shinji/
Look at the first post under this.
Look familiar?
You can stop blaming Reifags now.

>>154808937
Yes, we know you're pretending to be an Asukafag. It's not the first time you've done it. Fuck off already.

>>154808960
Why would a Reifag be in the Asuka x Shinji thread?

>>154808937
>He actually found it and repeated it multiple times and is now trying to convince others it's not him
I wouldn't be surprised if he has a special folder with links and images for falseflagging. No one is ever going to believe you, reifag.

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>>154808971
Not the first time Reifags stalked Asuka threads.

>>154808981
Yep, he's posted in Asuka threads and Kaworu threads many times, pretending to be them.
Such a fucking joke.

>>154808893
>that pic
Christ, this is some strong yet well-worded rage

>"it's the asukafags who ruin eva!!"
>"no it's the reifags who ruin it"
>"it's the kaworufags"
consider that maybe idolizing a character, and shaping your perception of the work around them, while also putting other characters down because you see them as a threat to your favorite character in some way, is inherently wrong

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>>154809032
Bless the Annoposter

>>154808960
Here he is saying that Shinji is in love with Asuka. Accept it's an Asukafag already.
https://boards.fireden.net/a/search/image/r6_hZHjns6Jcgy9gjvIUrA/

Are the rebuilds worth watching? I watched NGE and loved every minute of it, but I've heard they're not nearly as good as the original.

I'm afraid they'll sour Evangelion entirely for me or take away some of my enjoyment of the original.

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>>154809092
Just give up already, everyone in these threads knows how you are. You've been outed.

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>>154809121
Yes, 3.33 is the best of the three and Rei Q is the best girl!

>>154809121
>Are the rebuilds worth watching?
No.
Retarded plot, destroyed characters, shit CG.

>>154809135
Fuck off Asukafag, Shinji will never love your waifu. Stop making Reifags look bad.

>>154809121
No
>>154809168
This

>>154809183
Fuck off Reifag has already become a meme
We're way past the point of return
Nothing you do will change this
Every single one of your posts will be ostracized

You are outnumbered.

>>154809183
Fuck off reifag
Kill yourself

>>154809135
What if it's a falseflagging Kaworufag?

>>154809239
What if it's a falseflagging Misatofag?

>>154809121

It depends. Can you accept that the rebuild movies are not adaptations of the show, that the rebuild movies are their own thing separate from other NGE stories so far?

>Yes

Then you'll have a blast. The animation is incredible, the music is the best it's ever been, and you'll get to see familiar arcs told in new light. Just remember, this isn't the show or the manga.

>No

Then you're autistic line 9/10 people on this board and I wish you the best in life.

>>154809239
>>154809255
what if it's all been a ruse the whole time and these posters actually hate eva

>>154809233
Wow that made you so mad. All you care about is shipping, huh?

>>154809282
Then that would be pretty hilarious

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>>154809259
>3.0
>familiar arcs told in new light

>>154809300
>he actually confirms it's him
Kill yourself, reifag

>>154809349
Stop giving it attention or it might start spamming its textwalls again

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>>154809259
>this whole post

>>154809259
>the music is the best it's ever been
>literally reused old tracks from other Gainax anime

>>154809462
Only 1.0 and 2.0 had reused, 3.0 was reprises and new stuff

>>154809507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDunGtlNQVY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVYv4AhK1Io

>>154809605
>エヴァ新劇Q 最新BGMでナディア 37話のBGMを差し替えてみた
>I tried replacing the BGM of Nadia episode 37 with Evangelion Shingekijoban Q

Next time try tricking someone who doesn't know moonrunes, Reifag.

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>>154794814

Sadamoto made some good desisions. Like Kaji backstory, Yui scenes and Toji death. Really no way for Toji to survive

>>154809135
Asukafags accuse Reifags of stalking their threads while stalking Rei threads haha wow.

>>154793545
The one thing everyone forgot to mention about manga is that it's hella more gay.

And Shinji is not gay

>>154810190
I think Shinji is actually closeted in the manga.

>>154809121
they're good as long as you don't think of them as remakes

they drop all the character study stuff but they're still very enjoyable movies on their own

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I was going to post asking why Asuka and Rei had bandages in rebuild but it clicked for me as I was capping.

They both burned themselves practicing making dinner for Shinji but because Rei is a silly autist she hurt herself a lot more, and this makes Asuka realize that Rei is willing to do anything of Shinji and causes her to decide to pilot the Evangelion to give Rei her chance to make him dinner instead of her

>>154810531
>causes her to decide to pilot the Evangelion

wasn't that decided beforehand? I any case, yes of course

>>154810570
Nope, she made her mind up shortly after.

>>154810584
well they froze 02 though, so it wasn't really a choice

>>154810612
no it was. Asuka chose.

>>154810713
I'm pretty certain she does not choose to freeze 02

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>>154810531
Aw that's cute.

>>154810746
And you'd be right.

>>154805075

>Try to force together Shinji and Asuka last second
Just because they met? Are you dumb? Kensuke has more chances with Shinji because Sadamoto confirmed he's gay and has no interest on girls.

Shinji is a confirmed fag in the manga.

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>>154810828
Kensuke won the Shinjibowl.

>>154793545
Is this the manga where you can see Shinji's p0n0s

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>when you realize Gendo's corpse never dissolved

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>>154810965
Nothing to see.

>>154811001
Sadamoto has tiny dick

>>154810978
Holy shit, I don't even remember this exact scene. I thought Gendo getting eaten by 01 was a hallucination or something

What actually killed him? I find it hard to believe Shinji went down to Central Dogma just to bite off half his dad

>>154811153
It was an Oedipus Complex power fantasy. Unlike the tv show ending where he made peace with his father, he symbolically killed him in the movie. While the three Mothers triumvirate (Yui -Shinji's mother- Kaworu/Adam -the Angels' mother- and Rei/Lilith -the lilin mother-) reject him and favor Shinji, becoming one with him. First Yui as Eva dissolved him, then the giant which is the forbidden union of Adam and Lilith.

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>>154811153
I doubt you'd catch it the first time. It's only there for a moment and blends in with the background while you focus on something else.

Who knows who exactly did him in, if it was Yui, or Rei, or Shinji. The Evangelion that bites him looks very different than the one Shinji pilots. The world was a magic manifestion where anything goes though, so I doubt travel time was a factor.

>>154794372
Why do people like this ship anyway? "It's realistic". Yeah because attempted murder is so realistic.

why do people think that at the end of EoE A&S are the only 2 survivors?

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>>154811519
Maybe someday you'll know what human emotions feel like. I'm perpetually amazed how one could not only fail to understand how people think when they are one themselves, but say that you couldn't, you could just figure it out by watching television shows anyway.

People are pretty simple to understand.

>>154811580
Maybe someday you'll know what it's like not to grow up in a white trash family where your dad beat your mom in front of you all the time.

am I the only person who doesn't give a shit about shipping?

>>154811519
It's really dramatic and realistically beautiful

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>>154811656
Yes anon, you're the only one. Do you feel special?

>>154811568
They need a rewatch, because Yui says anyone can come back. IIRC Anno was planning a sequel which had humans coming back and trying to survive in that wasteland but dropped it.

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>>154811700
Asuka was always right.

>>154809092
The dude has problems. Reifags are the best posters while Asukafags and Kaworufags are the worst. They get burrhurt over that and start shitposting and then they blame Reifags. I saw a kaworufag sperg out because some anon said that hitting the gym showers with other men wasnt gay. The the kaworufag went ballistic and started calling him reifag.

Asuka and kaworufags are not sane people.

>Reifags
>Asukafags
>Kaworufags
What about Marifags?

>>154812568
>>154798085

>don't forget to sage Reifag's thread

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>>154793545
Best Kaji

>>154809233
>>154809220
>>154809148
>>154809135
Massive samefaggotry.

>>154812594
>Marifags?
wtf is that?

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>>154812611
Megane fapbait.

>yfw you realize Asuka's first manga appearance is her trying to win a doll from a vending machine

and the dolls are all characters from Nadia

>>154812602
how the hell was he supposed to know about the dummy plug?

>>154812599
Kill yourself already, shitskin.

>>154812699
How was Kaji supposed to know all his bros were gonna get killed?

>>154812633
>new character
>has not done anything unique as a character
You know what would have been cool Rei clones fighting each other

>>154812755
There is only one Rei.

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>>154812755
>Anima bullshit intensifies

>>154812610
Fuck off, reifag

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>>154812610
Fuck off reifag

>>154813284
Nice edit.

>>154813332
>denying this hard.
Fuck off reifag.

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what was the point of this?

>>154810162
Yeah, they're insane.

>>154808398
Check the Mega folder under extras.
>>154810090
Touji dying decreased the climax of Kaworu's death. Kaji backstory was cheesy and edgy as hell. I don't know about Yui's backstory because I could't put up with the manga anymore after Kaworu strangled the cat and then Ritsuko doing the same with Rei. That was simply too retarded.

>>154814041
Kaji backstory gave more worldbuilding, which I liked. And here he wasn't fake deep, just disillusioned.

>>154814213
Too bad the worldbuilding of sadamoto was thrash. He can't write for shit. For a mangaka he is a great illustrator.

It's biggest crime was ruining Gendo

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Reminder that Shinji is canonically heterosexual. He only ever had sexual fantasies about women.

>>154813284
Fuck off Reifag

I loved the manga. It told the story straight, had great moments (Gendo's final speech, Eva-01 fighting the MPs, Kaji's past) and had nice art.

But on another topic, fuck the Eva fanbase: people deem Eva as a vanguardist work of art (which it isn't, it copied a shit ton from Tomino works) while fighting over which fictional character is better than the other.

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Reminder that Asuka is canonically the cutest. She only ever looks adorable.

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>>154793947
What's this then?

>>154815199
All kids are homosexual until society conforms them. Not all, but research says that at least every third child has bi-curious experiences.

>>154815414
Anno intended otherwise

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>>154815414
Did you study specifically interview fictional anime characters? Or were only real humans part of the sample?

>>154810531
Asuka's a lot better off with Rebuild Shinji. He's much more of a selfish cunt than the tv version.

>That scene where Unit 01 tries to rape Shinji before Yui drives it off
What the hell was that all about?

>>154815521
I mean, you don't want to fuck Shinji?

>>154815199
i agree

>>154815465
Is there a typo here?

>>154815711
Yes. I meant "without."

>>154815199
https://boards.fireden.net/a/search/text/reminder%20shinji%20heterosexual/
https://boards.fireden.net/a/search/text/reminder%20shinji%20straight/
Jesus Christ you're pathetic. Stop pulling this shit.

>>154815799
It's the the truth

>>154815856
Are you a German girl?

>>154794008
Nah the manga loss the point of Rei character.
I am ok with rei and shinji getting closer, but the manga do a bad job with thier relationship

>>154815903
>>154815856
>>154815799
Fuck off Reifag

>>154815928
What the fuck are you talking about. One of the only things it got right was their relationship. It made it believable.

>>154815325
>while fighting over which fictional character is better than the other.

What else is there to fight about for 20 years?

>>154812755
> has not done anything unique

She just seems like she was created to fill a characterization void created by the story diverging.

>>154812755
She's there to be Asuka's friend since Hikari wasn't up for the job.

>>154812911
According to the storyboard book, Rei Q is Rei 6.

>>154815996
You could've become a good person in those 20 years.

>>154816190
I tried and failed. Now I argue about this.

>>154816272
Here, here, don't go initiating Fourth Impact on us now.

>>154815346
A gay man with a redhead whom he doesn't even know.

>>154793545
Its basically "What if Shinji actually had a spine"

>>154815199
Kaworu can change into a girl so it doesn't matter.

>>154816434
It does metter, twisted yaoi visions don't have a place in a story about an adolescent boy.

>>154816571
>It does metter
ESLfag detected. You have to go back.

>>154816571
Are you a German girl?

>>154816571
Sexuality is a large part of Eva.

>>154816912
That's right but Shinji is heterosexual, rewatch eoe

>>154816957
Yeah in EOE where he gets spear fucked by Kaworu.

>>154816957
Are you a German girl? You have to answer

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This fucking cancer again ffs.

Is that so hard to ignore and not answer it?
Or is it talking to itself again?

>>154816434
For fuck's sake, Shinji loves Kaworu that's Kaworu, not Kaworu that's a boy, or Kaworu that's a girl.

Kaworu is not even a goddamn Lilim.

But sexually he's definitely attracted to girls.

Shinji is GAAYYYYYYYYYYY
he loves benises:D
But also pussies:/

>>154817033
Shinji percieves Kaworu as a boy, so he loved Kaworu the boy.

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Women and faggots will never understand the relationship between Kaworu and Shinji.

The concept of friendship is lost on them because everything is viewed through the lens of sex. I pity them.

>>154816989
It was a metaphor how Shinji opened his heart for Kaworu. He wasn't a part of Shinji sexual fantasies in instrumentality.

>>154817100
I always see this page posted I wonder where it's from

>>154817093
He literally gives zero fucks about whether Kaworu is a boy or not.

Look at how awkward he was sleeping with Asuka, trying to kiss her, and how he immediately started talking to Kaworu about his daddy issues. It's because he wasn't thinking about his cock inside his ass, but with Asuka he wanted his lips on hers.

>>154817248
Kaworu being a boy is important because he is awkward with girls. He's literally Shinji's ideal self so it can't be a girl.

>>154817136
Shinji Ikari Raising Project.

>>154817295
Exactly, it's important to Shinji as Shinji the heterosexual beta-male.

>>154817100
Stfu faggot, Shinji was friends with Toji and Kensuke, but that shit with Kaworu was full homo.

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>>154793545
The end is the start of the movies

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>>154817341
See how easy it is to weed them out?

>>154817351
End of my dick is start of your ass

>>154817334
No you're not getting it.

>>154817318
thanks

>>154817375
If that's how you are with your friends of the same gender maybe you're the gay one here, not me.

>>154817388
My point was that homosexuality had nothing to do with Shinji loving Kaworu.

But from perspective of Shinji's sexuality, Kaworu being a boy is important as something he wouldn't fuck.

>>154815346
this is CUTE!

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This psychodelic sequence shows pretty sexually explicit imagery, at first we see a lower body of a woman in the same position as Shinji's hallucinations of Asuka, Misato and Rei. While Asuka's and Rei's silhouettes scroll across the screen other images are being displayed; a woman in a towel, most likely Asuka like we seen her in some ep. Sleeping woman-Drunken Misato. A shirtless woman, most likely Misato before putting her yellow shirt. And so on. There's even sleeping Asuka. It may be a hint that Shinji masturbated to unconscious her before.

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>>154817598
But he got fucked by him. And he enjoyed it.

>>154817598
No.
Shinji blushes all the time around Kaworu. In the storyboards Kaworu looking at his face makes his heart beat faster. In the drafts he gets a boner from holding his hand and they kiss.
He is attracted to him.

>>154817857
>he gets a boner
No, he just passed out. And he nasturbated thinking of women in eoe's Storyboards

>>154817857
>he blushed
>he must be cock addicted jizz gargling slut
Sure.

>>154817929
Who said that? I just said he's attracted to Kaworu. Do you blush around your friends all the time?

>>154818018
He wasn't in his sexual fantasies.

>>154818018
I don't see my friends' dicks at any point of time.

F-for various reasons

>>154818061
He doesn't only blush in the bath scene, Kaworu just looking at him makes him blush.

>>154818129
He wasn't sexually attracted to him even in the bath scene

>>154818129
Blushing is not necessarily indicative of romantic stimulation.

>>154818213
What about his heart skipping a beat? Anno already said they had a homoerotic relationship that went beyond friendship. He also called it JUNE-like. JUNE means physical homosexuality.

>>154818372
Source.

>>154818426
JUNE interview. You can google it.

>>154818372
June is a yaoi magazine. It is june like but it has nothing to do with Shinji's actual sexualty. It's a fujobait of it's time.

>>154818639
It's not fujobait, Anno and co said they were suprised at how girls reacted. If they wanted to fujobait it would be more like the manga i.e BL-like.

>>154818372
So, Anno had little to do with writing the episode and he is not responsible for how Kaworu ended up. That was enlightening.

>>154803449
>>154815346
???

Sadamoto: In fact, Shinji and Rei, and Shinji and Asuka, their touch stopped at holding hands. Everytime they hold their hands, it has a different meaning. It is one fun fact about EVA……So I never intend to let the children’s relationship go beyond that. On the contrary, Kaworu is the only one who overstep the boundary, he break the rule.
-All About Kaworu Nagisa, 2008

>>154818789
Yeah, Satsukawa is the main one responsible for the relationships in the show. He also wrote the Asuka-Shinji scenes. He didn't write for Rebuild and that's why it sucks.

>>154818716
Then explain why he wasn't a part of Shinji's sexual fantasies.

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>>154818883
Stop responding to the trolling Reifag

>>154818958
Anon, that is not ESL-kun. Sometimes it's good to have discussion.

>>154818999
Both of them are the Reifag. He's trying to make every thread about shipping, stop responding.

>>154819034
The thread was dead anyway.

>>154818789
Anno did not write most NGE episodes. Writers like Satsukawa were in charge of that.
Anno gives them the concept and they do the nitty gritty dialogue and such.
Nonetheless everyone says it was intended to portray a homoerotic relationship, so there's really no point of debate here.
Kaworu dies at the end of the episode so there's no point in you getting insecure about it.

>A: I thought its the kind of June-ness that Masayuki-san likes.
>M: Oh no no, it was on part Tsurumaki’s doing, this romantic poetry-like stuff its not within my capabilities.
>B: Is it very romantic?
>M: Actually June refers more to the physical kind of homoeroticism.
>B: Ah, I see.
>H: Speaking of this, Masayuki is arguably one of the go to people when it comes to homo anime.
>M: How we come back to this again?
>A: Why, what?
>M: Because ep 24 was my responsibility everyone thinks Kaworu was created by me.
>H: Storyboards, layout, artistic direction, you are practically his biological parents.
>M: It was meant to be Tsurumaki’s responsibility but because he was busy with the storyboards for 22, 23 so we basically switched episodes.
>H: well isn’t that good?
>M: Not at all. (laughs)
>H: Discovering new lands, an awakening of sorts.
>M: I really didn’t do it on purpose.
>H: Finding your real self within your heart.
>M: No, no. I didn’t think much at all and just drew it according to Anno’s script.

>>154819034
Fuck off Reifag stop ruining every thread

>>154819086
Then let it die. Fuck you for responding to bait so easily.
Who the fuck cares what anons here think?
The Japan fanbase and Eva staff all agree with you, you don't need to prove anything to anyone.

>>154819174
Big delusion. Anno himself said Shinji wasn't sexually attracted to Kaworu and how the interviewer responds further proves it

One thing I don't get: if people are so bothered about escapism, why do they watch evangelion, or anime, at all? Is it just a speech they pick up to make them feel superior even though they're basically the same otakus, only aware of their own otaku-ness?

>>154819224
It wasn't bait.
The ESLfag was baiting, but that person thought they had a platonic relationship. I think I convinced him so it's cool. I've been saging anyway.

>>154819293
Not at all. Carnal desire isn't sexual attraction, nonetheless he was talking only about the bath scene.
Calling their relationship homoerotic and more than friends already proves Anno's opinion on the matter.

>>154819305
Evangelion is also fairly escapist. Until EOE.

>>154819305
Yes. It's exactly like you say.

>>154819315
not the same anon, but I really got lost in the string of replies and shitposting. what are your conclusions about the subject?

better pacing and character development

>>154819315
And again I'll repeat
>Who the fuck cares what anons here think?
Just let them think what they want, I'm tired of having to see this conversation every thread.

>>154819372
No, seening someone you're supposedly attracted to should awoken sexuall urge in you see: Shinji to Asuka

>>154819392
Shinji is attracted to Kaworu.

>>154819315
It's most likely a Reifag falseflagging again

>>154819464
Delusion

>le gay memes
*yawn* Again and again, who gives a fuck, honestly? I wish I was able to hug Asuka

>>154820533
Stop bumping your thread Reifag

>>154820594
Stop sucking my dick, anon
Oh wait, you can't, that's right

>>154796918
>Rei spends her life confronting all of her problems, not running from them but tackling them straight on. When someone tells her something she doesn't like or doesn't know about herself, Rei actually considers it instead of brushing it off with a rehearsed self-defense mechanism.
No, she spends her life ignoring whether any of that matters. She just does whatever she's told because she's been thoroughly dehumanized. That's why Shinji is so important to her, he's the first to treat her like an actual person.

>>154793545
At least he didn't pussy out vs the mass produced evas at the end

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>>154810978
Whereas everyone else did, including the dead.

These threads would be so much better if mods would just ban the shitposting Reifag

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>>154817627

>>154821620
Never gonna happen.

>>154820933
>No, she spends her life ignoring whether any of that matters.

You're making stuff up anon.

>>154821849
>>154821620
I think everyone realizes that the shitposting is 100% Asuka and Kaworufag made. Everyone. This is why you're stuck samefagging your own posts while dozens of anons laugh at you and call you insane.

>>154822119
Stop shitting up Eva threads, please ACK.

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>>154822161
The only posts I've made ITT has some on-topic material in them, with the exclusion of this one. I do not care about what shitty fantasies you retarded Asuka and Kaworu fans make up to defend your shitposting because it will not work. At the end of the day, it is only you and only you who actually believes it. You know this yourself.

Accept the truth:
Kaworu fans shitpost massively
Asuka fans shitpost massively

like anons have pointed out, and proved with post references and more, this can not be denied. It is therefore only making Asuka and Kaworu fans look worse by spamming "fuck off reifag" and similarly retarded posts.

>>154809695
best post ITT

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>>154822288
Come on, it's been 3 years already. Haven't you done enough?

>>154822119
>You're making stuff up anon.
She literally doesn't question her existence or needs until Shinji enters her life.

>>154822388
Why don't you ask yourself that question? Even that image you posted has been debunked already. Everyone knows it's Asuka fans on that image for the most part.

>>154822288
I don't think you've mentioned Rebuild recently which is a sign you're improving. Keep at it, anon. I believe in you.

>>154822400
That is also something you're making up. You can't prove what you're saying is true. You're more or less claiming that Asuka has never taken a shit before in all of Evangelion.

Rei's reflected character and deep trauma regarding her own replacability is both evidence and proof that Rei has had these thoughts before.

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>>154822437
>yfw it was all an elaborate plan to cure the Reifag of his Rebuild autism

>>154822724
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with asukafags and kaworufags. How the hell is a "ShinjixRei shipper" also shitting on Shinji x Rei and everyone who dares put them in the same scene? It has to be some sort of paranoid delusion where they see enemies everywhere, or look at the shitposting they and their own group makes and then mentally redistribute the ownership to their enemies.

>>154822469
It's a fictional character, of course I can't prove anything. Our interpretation is based on our own subjective experiences.

Why would you pretend it could be anything but?

>it's talking to itself again

>>154822849
I guess that'd bring us to the next step then, why spread interpretations you know cannot be proven, and contradicts the actual facts of the story? It's simply poor form to make a statement like this >>154822400 as if it were fact.

If we look at Rei's character more, we can even see that >>154820933
isn't true, as Rei does demonstrate that she does not do whatever she's told. Through both action/inaction and her own claims. She does for instance, in episode six say to Shinji that she doesn't pilot the EVA because of Gendo or because she's told.

>>154822982
She says she would jump off a brige and die if Gendo ordered her to

>>154822982
>why spread interpretations you know cannot be proven
Presumably, like you, I enjoy talking about works of fiction.

>>154797399
>Rei is perhaps the most human out of ALL characters
She can't even get periods, she isn't human

>>154823071
Then I guess children and men aren't human then.

>>154823099
If they were women they would.

>>154823037
It'd be more correct to say that you enjoy spreading lies about works of fiction.

>>154823035
She says she'd die if ordered to. Which is true, as Rei will die in battle against the Angels if need be. In fact, Rei doesn't need to be ordered to, she'll do that on her own.

Against Zeruel, Rei sorties without orders, to the surprise of the NERV staff and Gendo who freaks. Against Armisael, despite being ordered to eject, Rei refuses and follows her own course of action, which saves the day but also ends up killing her. The big point people seem to be misunderstanding is that Rei is 100% right here. She CAN die without perishing like for instance Asuka will. Therefore Rei, logically connects the dots and figures that if anyone dies, it has to be her. She can be replaced, after all.

Now, Asuka doesn't know this, and since Asuka has the intelligence of a loaf of bread and the tact of a drunk clown, she lashes out like the hormonal teenage bitch she is.

Asuka herself isn't foreign to dying in battle, refer even early episodes like Magma Diver where she's totally fine with dying apparently.

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>>154823221
As expected of the Reifag, he resorts to adhoms straight away.
The guy wasn't even bashing her.

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>>154823348
You're using "adhom" as if it were a buzzword that carries meaning. If anon more or less acknowledges that he thinks spreading interpretations of works he knows doesn't work is equivalent to a normal talk about works of fiction, then he is indeed admitting to spreading lies.

Have an actual adhom though: Get fucked asukafag autist.

>>154823348
Stop responding to it.
They'll just keep bumping the thread with their inane shitposts.

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>>154823556
>>154823348

This is Asukafag damage control, witness it here first hand people!

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>>154823466
You sure got me Reifag.
Too bad you just insulted a fellow Rei fan, since avatarfagging as a character means you're a fan now.

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>>154823628
By that logic, I'm an Asuka fan, so it checks out.

>>154823221
>It'd be more correct to say that you enjoy spreading lies about works of fiction.
Not at all, nothing I have said is untrue. :o)

>>154794008
It's good that I'm not a degenerate waifu fag.

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>Commander Ikari - do you feel in charge?

At least we can all agree that Shinji is heterosexual

>>154815414
>every third child

Ohh I see what you did there.

>this thread again
>these answers again
>this reifag again
"”Eva" is a story that repeats.
It is a story where the main character witnesses many horrors with his own eyes, but still tries to stand up again.
It is a story of will; a story of moving forward, if only just a little.
It is a story of fear, where someone who must face indefinite solitude fears reaching out to others, but still wants to try.
But that doesn't apply to Eva threads on /a/, they're always shit no matter how often you repeat. Death to reifags." - Hideaki Anno

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>>154826990
>Anno: Everyone understands that it's a fiction, but precisely because it's a fiction you have a pure feeling, you fall for the character to an even greater extent. You assume that an anime character will not betray you. Iku-chan said [to me], "in the last episode, please have Rei Ayanami get married and become pregnant. Just please betray the Ayanami fans. The Rei Ayanami they are thinking of is not real. The real Rei Ayanami gets married, and her belly..."

>Oguro: (laughs) Ah, if Ayanami really existed.

>Anno: He told me something like, "please, make them realize that, If she were real, she would get married, become pregnant, have a child, and grow older." I was thinking, "we don't have to go that far..." (laughs).

>Oguro: (laughs) Iku-chan is a wicked man.

>>154826990
Stop bumping the thread, Reifag

>>154827085
Fuck off, reifag

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シンちゃんはカヲル君のちんこを吸うのが好き、
庵野も賛成しているんだもん。

>>154827296
>>154827085
>>154827071
>>154826990
None of these are Reifags.

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>>154822518
>>154822724
Thank you mods

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>>154794772
>>154793947
Thank you mods.

>>154827432
Fuck off Reifag

>>154827071
Based
Ikuhara

>it's another "/pol/transplant Reitards shit up another thread"
Can't say I'm really surprised with taste that shit.

>>154829340
It's unfortunate, really.