Dragon Ball Super

>>154753151
nice

this is actually handled pretty well

>>154753151
What a cheap excuse, the anime at least handled it much better

After watching the episode, Toppo didn't really job. He took Goku's strongest attack head on guarded without losing out, and he revealed he was holding back all along as they finally were going all out. General idea is supposed to be that they were equal I guess.

>>154753555
this. from the live thread people made it seem like he was getting whipped. He even kept up with ssb speed which is pretty incredible.

Beerus is scared of people analyzing Goku. What is weaknesses are there to expose other than he doesn't go all out in the beginning?

>>154753151

Manga in general I thought handled this part of the story better.

Fuuuck the anime.

>powerlevels in the anime make no sense
>manga puts shitton of effort into making powerlevels progress logically and rationally

honestly, I can't enjoy the anime anymore. The manga simply pulls off everything far better and it's clear Toyatoro is a far more intelligent writer than whatever dumbfuck retard is in-charge of the anime.

>Universal Tournament Goku does a better job of being Black than Manga Black does

Toyotaro really, really dropped the ball last chapter.

what the fuck is up with beerus in this episode

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>>154753677
>>154753665

>>154753529
>the anime at least handled it much better
Kek

>>154753665
>logically
>rationally

>SSJ2 Trunks stronger than SSJ3 Goku
>Black being a jobber
>SSB being established as a huge energy drain but Vegeta able to spam it because of the Room of Memes and Asspulls

Bra is cute

>>154753750
he is depressed he is going to be wiped out of existence because of an autistic monkey he should have killed months ago

B-But Toyotaro Goku is smart???????????

What happened to Beerus's face

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The Angels are the Jews of Dragonball aren't they? I bet this dude right here is the fucking King Jew.

>>154753768
>>SSB being established as a huge energy drain but Vegeta able to spam it because of the Room of Memes and Asspulls


>train for a year
>if you make progress it's a meme

>Toppo turned out to be one huge meme

>>154753862
>Vegeta made no progress in the previous three years in the room before U6 tournament

The most cucked tripfag on /a/, everyone.

>>154753825
The new art style is doing a number on everyone's faces. It's fucking with me every time

>>154753995
It was the Fillipino sweatshop episode, that plus Kitano which is shit.

>>154753555
Toppo is way stronger. What the fuck can Goku do to even get stronger in 40 hours? He's already pulling ut SSB + Kaoiken this early in prelims.

>>154753828
When will they announce that he's the next villain? Almost when the tournament ends? Buu saga all over again

>>154753529
Goku forgot to bring the seal tho. stop shilling, shill.

I hope Hit vs Goku is the finale desu

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>Status of Toei shills

>>154754074
Hit is nothing but a donut making jobber now.

>>154754074
>implying hit won't job to Jiren

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This episode was just another advertisement for dragonball xenoverse

>hey goy xenoverse 3 is coming out
>for 60 dollars you can now play as pride troopers
>muh toppo moveset

>>154754074
Hit will get the same treatment as Tien at 23rd

>>154754080
When will assblasted Shillbillies give up?

Who can possibly defeat Jiren the Ayy?

Who is your universe 7 team?
1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. Gohan
4. Trunks
5. Goten
6. Buu
7. Dabura
8. Frieza
9. Cell
10. Captain Ginyu

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WHO HERE /JIRENTHEGRAYY/

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>>154754074
>Hit
>finale
sure anon. keep hoping

>>154754099
and the moves also have shitty one piece names

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>>154754152

>>154754184
Why do they wear masks?

>>154754180
grayy lmao

This arc has no tension as they can have Vegito bail them out.

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Toppo got rekt.

>>154754177
You can't have a team of half dead characters.

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https://u.nya.is/ehxitj.mp4
>y-y-you're just an appetizer

>>154754221
>Fusion being legal in the tournament
Fat chance.

>>154754240
Frieza was revived after a decade, reviving has become retconned. They could find a way.

>>154754064
Nigga super cant even have any fucking villains anymore cause zeno will just point at it and say its annoying and it will get hakai'd. Zamasu and black were causing chaos in the future yet the lil bastard had no clue what was going on but goku had his "oh shit moment" button to end the saga immediately. GT was shit but there was no "oh fuck just kill baby/super android 17/omega shenron button"

The only thing I dislike about SSBKK is that it blows out my headcanon of Kaioken being King Kai's attempt at giving ningen the ability to mimic God Ki. It would explain why Kaioken hurts the user, because even an imperfect copy of God Ki would be too much for ningen to handle without proper training, and explain why SSG and Kaioken look so similar.

>>154753151
>Niggastream
Kill yourself OP

>>154754210
THIS MOVE IS ULTIMATE

>>154753555
>Goku's strongest attack
It's like it's your first time watching anything Dragon Ball. He doesn't go all out unless it's a life or death situation like with Black Goku.

>Goku is "evil"
I dig it.

>Beerus is a fucking pussy
Yep he is. Great to see.

>Whis doesn't give a fuck
Amazing.

This arc hasn't even started and it's already super.

JUSTICE

>>154754073

and here he picked the wrong one

he's just as stupid and what you idiots are doing is splitting hairs

>>154754073
Yeah, he forgot.
Instead of digging into Roshi's personal belonging for a coupon to bring instead like the manga did.

>>154754308
That was his strongest attack, and Whis confirmed he was serious.

That's the tension of this arc, even going all out he was only equal to Toppa.

>>154754308
>Life or Death
Goku doesn't give a fuck about life or death anymore.

>>154754327
I really anticipated Toppo to say that Goku wasn't evil.

>>154754308
>He doesn't go all out
His "all out" here was SSBKK x2

Wow, really powerful. That said, Goku needs new strength or Rose to keep up. 40 hours is too little to train a new technique, it will have to be a new transformation.

>>154754259
It's in 40 hours so since they never mentioned it's legal

>>154754327
I still fight that Whis and Beerus are the best thing to come out of super. They're great for comedic value.

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>>154753151
Your discount titties are no match for my sense of justice, ningen.

>>154753825
Scooby Doo

>40 hours to scour an entire universe for your 10 strongest fighters

>>154754144
Speaking of, I've been watching DB for the first time recently with only 9 eps left. This is how you do a fucking tournament man. Every main fight is hype as shit and it feels like Goku could actually lose. But I am bothered by how long fucking Piccolo is lasting. Fuck man just lose already.

>>154754221
The other universes all have Kaioshin that can supply Potara to their fighters as well though.

>>154754376
>40 hours is too little to train a new technique,
>Hey Whis can me and Vegeta borrow your Room of Asspulls?

>>154754402
>existence is about to be erased
>FUCK IT LET'S GO EAT SHIT

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>>154753151
Leave the Mortal Level to me dad!

>>154754418
"Why scour the universe for the definitive fighters that are 100% stronger than half of our team when we can just choose my friends from Earth lol"

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>>154753825
scooby beerus to go with shaggy angel from universe 9

>>154754376
Goku's continuous multiplication of his god ki will turn him into Godku which is what we saw in the opening

>>154754430
Time Chamber for the 50th time?

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>Bulmas baby being born already
>Vegeta to train in the room of smokey asspulls
>SSG Vegeta will be born only to not be used
>GOHANS RAISING THE MORTAL LEVEL
>grand priest is angel daddy

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>>154753750

So Gohan is going to get a super special snowflake form like Trunks and SSR, right?

>>154754426
Vegito is the strongest because of the rival boost he gets

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>>154754418
>champa goes back to universe 6 and looks for hit species to build the 10 man hit militia

I'm gonna miss hit. Fuck toppo and the gayass pride trooper ginyu force wannabes

>>154753151

>>154754485
>Scooby-Doo Beerus
someone post let's fly high angel

>>154753151
Friggin'?! The fuck niggastream?! It should have been: those shitty cocksuckers took ma fucking black cunt coupon.

>>154754376
Yeah, it's called Arale. GG

>>154753151
I loved how clear it was that the immortal Zamasu had no way to fight anyone alone, while this was very inconsistent in the anime.

>>154753976
>Jiren The Gray
I wonder what was Toriyama thinking when he created him

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Our champ with that fighter knowledge
...or he just reads toriyama interviews

Vegeta wrecking Black was even better in the manga, Toyotaro is back to being /our guy/.

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>>154754376
Goku's drive to perfect SSBKK will bring his Kaioken mastery to a whole new level that will allow him to be at his former SSB level in his base and will not need to use SSB at all in the tournament anymore

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>Bra
>half-saiyan
>royal blood
>conceived by a literal god
>birth is sped up through Whis angel magic

Bra is literally going to be the strongest Saiyan ever and there is nothing you can do about it.

Can someone explain to me where the whole doughnuts thing came from?

>>154754456
To be fair though.

The androids are stronger then Frieza, you know, the guy so strong only Buu and Beerus were stronger then he was.

The guy who was so strong even Beerus was utterly shocked and in disbelief that ANYONE could manage to beat him.

and Tien and Krillin are at least at Ginyu force level. You know, the squad of guys so strong that it was often thought that only Frieza was stronger then them.

To be fair, the whole "Frieza was the strongest FGT in the unvierse" deal makes the universes prospect for strong fighters outside of the ones they already have pretty low.

Only Cell and Dabura were actually stronger then Frieza, and both of them are dead, and evil.

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>>154754619

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Kek, Toppo is a weakling.

Sorry to burst your little small dreams.

The only opponent for Goku will be Jiren.

Son Goku didn't even break a sweat.

He definitely found a form/powers way beyond the level of SSB.

By the looks of it, it has something to do with Kaio-Ken after all.

Maybe he has managed to perfectly fuse both forms, which equals to 40 times Kaio-Ken.

Goku is losing more and more respect for Beerus the stronger he gets.
He is closing the levels, fast.

>>154754632
Xenoverse 2 dub

>>154754585
"this fucker's gonna sell SO many toys"
"shit'll be cash"
"what's a lauch"
"i'm hungry"

>>154754606
it was amazing but one thing the manga lacks is some Black vs Goku time.
I guess we have the anime for that.

>>154754277
Grand Priest is more powerful than he lets on. I have to wonder if Zeno can even erase him.

Besides, all he'd have to do is have some plan to seal the Zenos away or seal their powers and he'd be the most powerful being in the universe.

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That's it. Im getting sick and tired of DBS' inconsistency.
Dragon Ball and DBZ was consistent as fuck. There was never a plothole at all.

But in Super there is a huge one, and by huge I mean HUGE.

Everyone saw the last Tournament between U6 and U7. Including Zeno.
That tournament was dominated by U7 fighters, they DID WON.
Not to mention Beerus is way stronger than Champa.
So you can't say "ningens lost, but the Hakaishin is stronger".

Now how the fuck is Universe 6 is superior to Universe 7???

> If you would say it's TOei's fault, I 'd believe that!

>>154754651
>The androids are stronger then Frieza
No they aren't. If Frieza trained for a couple of seconds he could have surpassed them

>>154754662
Goku was already weakened from the previous fight anyway.

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>Toppo didn't rip SSJ Goku's arm off, even though he was SSB tier
>Toppo didn't crush base Goku into paste, even though he was SSB tier

>>154754530
>Jiren the Gray
more like Jiren the Gay

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>>154754547
>like zoinks beerus looks like the universe is going to be erased, but first lets go to bulmas and get a a triple decker dagwood sandwich

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Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister

>>154754430
>toppo is a grappler
>clearly going to fight against Majin boo who doesnt' care about grapples

>>154754662
Toppo tanked a SSB warp kamehama point blank. He could take out everybody on U7 team besides Goku.

>>154754689
I love this Frieza training meme

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>>154754702
Lets head to the malt shop

>>154754702
ruh roh raggy

>>154754732
>He could take out everybody on U7 team besides Goku
Weight until he meets Vegeta.

>>154754585
(laughs)

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UPDATED

>>154754732
Goku held back.

>>154754760
>Weight
Wait* Sorry, that wasn't intentional.

>>154754760
is vegeta still stronger than goku?

>>154754651
Frieza had the most potential and we saw it in RoF. All the cyborgs were stronger.

>>154754702
kek
>>154754746
thanks anon

>>154754780
No, but he's still most likely as strong or stronger than Toppo because of SSB.

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I'm not going to fight.

>>154754800
I just absolutely love how SSG makes the user younger.

>>154754760
Knowing Vegeta he'd go full retard and try to charge at Toppo head on ala vs. Black and get caught in the lock. He doesn't have kaioken or his asspull magic powers from the manga to save him either.

>>154754800
>vegeta looks slimmer
>makes him 200% more smug
Literally /oursaiyan/

>>154754811
Yeah you are. Don't be a pussy.

>>154754780
Are you retarded? How the hell can Vegeta be stronger than Goku. Not only does Goku have SSBKK but in the Black arc his SSB kamehameha did critical damage while Vegeta's father son galick gun didn't do anything.

Only Goku fanboys say Toppo got wrecked. The fight was even

>>154754697
Pride troopers have no style or cool factor. I also like how hit kind of looks like he wear a trench coat and looks like the "nothing personal" meme. Toppo and buff jaco are shit designs compared to other strong opponents. I mean compare super buu to buff jaco.

>>154754800
>Being this smooth

>>154753768
>not rational because a half saiyan's base form is 4 times stronger than a pure saiyan's
>not rational because jobber memes
>not rational because Vegeta get over a form's weakness
kys

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>>154754811
Stop being a baby

>>154754844
>or his asspull magic powers from the manga to save him either

We shall see...

>>154754849
>He doesn't know that Vegeta will learn a new asspull power up to stay matched with Goku.

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>>154754619
>It's another multiverse fanfiction episode

>>154754857
Goku can go up to Kaioken x10. When they stopped holding back he only did Kaioken x2

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>raises the universe level single handedly
>can casually talk to Beerus
>Vegeta and the grand priest praise him
Don't worry, I got this dad.

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I want backstories of these strongest warriors from other universes.

I want to know what pushed them to become so powerful. I swear to god, if most of these warriors are "just gifted" I'm going to be so mad.

>>154754632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-pUSkxJxgc

>>154754885
>>154754874
>Vegeta's asspull is Trunk's SSB Rage form mixed with God Form

>>154754885
Nah Vegeta is going to fight his new rival one of the teletubbies

>>154754915
>When they stopped holding back he only did Kaioken x2

*citation needed
>B-but I'm pretty sure that's what-
that's not a citation, that's you pulling things out of your ass.

>>154754177
The concievably strongest team they could get would be to form Vegito, then have Shin travel 10 secs into the future before and form another Vegito. Then repeat till you get 10.

>>154753971
Vegeta didn't make progress enough. He wasn't not able to come across SSB's cooldown until the 4th year of SSB training in RoSaT, what's wrong with it?

>>154754926
I want to know why most of them look like jobbers

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>>154753151
>"Oh no, I'm being crushed in this hold and I don't have enough strength to break free even as a Super Saiyan!!"
>"If ONLY I had a form past Super Saiyan 1 that could boost my strength even further..."

>>154754917
>Goku gets defeated early on and is floating through the void
>Gohan is fighting the last fighter with one broken arm
>Goku's mind somehow links with Gohan and they perform Father Son Kamehamemeha as Gohan Achieves SSB2 without every gaining SSB or SSG level and obliterate the entire arena.

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>>154753151

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>>154754732
Well, Toppo will be a good opponent for Vegeta.

Jiren who is a lot stronger than Toppo will be the challenge for Goku to show us the audience his new limit breaking form (which was spoiled in the opening though already..).

Toppo definitely has the tanky body but lacks massively in speed against the SSB form.

>>154755002
Super Saiyan plus Kaioken?

>>154754970
This is probably the dumbest thing i've ever read in a rb thread. Good job Jose.

>>154754970
So, can Potara stack? Can't they just Potaro Vegito, then Potaro Vegito + Gohan then Potara Gotenks with that?

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>>154754693
>Expecting the Super anime to have any sort of reasonable power scaling

>>154755006
kek

>>154754238
>dislocated Goku's arm
>choked the Super Saiyan out of him
>the worst damage he sustains at the end is getting part of his uniform burned off
>he's still able to leave the ring of his own power and isn't limping or badly injured

I really don't get Dragon B/a/ll posters. Does taking damage in a fight count as "jobbing" now?

>Universe 10 needs fighters
>BRINGS BACK GOKU BLACK

BLACK IS BACK

>>154754917
>piccolo gets murdered again
>gohan angers starts playing

>>154755027
>Super Saiyan is yellow
>Kaioken is red
>Goku's color is orange
Get ready for Super Saiyan Orange guys

>>154755061
Could be worse, it could be the manga.

>>154755049
>wanting to dilute the saiyans THAT MUCH
Vegohenks would also look like an abomination

>>154754926
There wont be backstory, after this arc all the strongass opponents that have ssjbkk times 1000 power levels in the non participating universes will all be babby tier faggots, the preview has vegeta fighting a fucking pink tumblr teletubby. The future fighters the next arc will probably be big blob version janemba monaka races that can shoot multiverse busting green kamehamehas cause "dude power levels cool"

>>154754775
needs Jiren the grayy Lmao's name

>>154754970
might as well potara Gohan and Trunks if you want to do bullshit things.

>>154755084
>Goku Black
>willingly helping to save the universe when he killed Gowasu before
>not being perfectly okay with all of the ningens and Supreme Kais being killed

>>154754775
you forgot that universe 10 has
Zamasu and Goku black

>>154755103
But he would probably be pretty strong.

>>154755049
No it can't

>>154754917
He will become SSGohan

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>>154754811
but your baby is born

How the fuck is everybody missing all this Goham foreshadowing they have been doing it all series fucking long its the same shit they teased us with until the end of the Cell arc. This is his arc to shine out of nowhere again only to take a back seat in the next arc

>gowasu hasn't said a single word.
I really what what he's thinking,

>>154755129
But Goku black was fucking shit up in Universe 7.

So why isn't Vegeta's ass pull growing his own tail back and becoming a giant monkey?

how did Zamasu kill Grand Priest anyway

>>154755158
Literally my moms onion

>>154755172
>Gohanfag

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>>154755002
>This type of dumb shit happens so often that i'm numb to it
Will the Super anime ever stop being trash? I wanna like it but it's just fucking terrible compared to the manga.

>>154755178
so? Black(Zamasu) is from U10

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>>154755197

>>154755158
How long until she reaches slut mode?

>>154755084
hopefully it's the badass Black and not the weak jobber cuck Black from the manga

>>154753151
>Tranks

>>154755002
Goku likes fighting at a disadvantage

>>154755002
He did go SSB don't be stupid.

>>154755216
But Black is God of Destruction for Universe 7.

>>154755158
that's a cute boy

>>154755002
>Super Saiyan 1
I'm more bothered by this

>>154755225
hopefully never but in GT 8 years

>>154755180
He didn't apparently, Grand Priest and Zen just didn't give a fuck, I guess.

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My dad works for Dragon Ball, and he told me the plot for the battle royale.
>Most of the U7 team will get a single scene of not-jobbing before jobbing
>The majority of the fighters are cannon fodder who jump Goku at the start and get accidentally blown off the stage when Goku goes SSJ
>At the end, Vegeta and Goku will go up against Jiren and Toppo
>Vegeta and Toppo get KO'd at the same time, either Krillin or Roshi contributes in some small way to Toppo losing before getting knocked off
>Timer runs out, only Goku and Jiren remain, so it goes into sudden death, extending the battle for another episode
>Goku wins, wishes to have the tournament happen every year and nobody is erased
>"wow you arent so evil after all haha" - Toppo while shaking Goku's hand

>>154754445
What even is the mortal level, and how come Goku lowers it while Gohan raises it?

>>154754662
>The only opponent for Goku will be Jiren.
Broly

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>>154755099
>animefag
The manga is mediocre, but it's still a thousand times better than the godawful anime.

>>154755287
Intelligence obviously.

>>154754445
Man, it would be cool if gohan sported piccolo's gi in the tourney.

>>154755278
> thinks its a boy
are u autistic

>>154755280
His regular SSJ1 form is his strongest base level. The others take up too much energy, he's most efficient at SSJ1.

>>154755002
...are you fucking retarded?

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What is up with the openings of nowadays spoiling everything?

It spoiled Jiren, the main stage fight, the big rival of Goku this arc.

It spoiled the participants.

It even spoiled Goku's new form.

>Goku already knows how to break his limit due to kaioken abuse
>was going to show it off
>but fucking King of Jews stopped the fight because the 2 kids were getting way too excited before the tournament even started

Fucking Goku pulling off shit like it is nothing

>>154754099
>Pride Troopers vs Ginyu Forces vs Galactic Patrol dlc
>hidden requirement: Help Jaco while not getting him defeated between the fight of good vs evil
>last hidden requirement: get Great Saiyaman 1 and 2 to appear, don't let them get defeated either and defeat the evil doers

You know it will happen

>>154754049
Goku will scream a lot while going SSBK9001x with no restrictions, will reach the true SSG form, but that original form with pink/red aura with Vegeta's silhouette(no tail obviously) in BoG and thicker eyedlash

>>154755286
>>The majority of the fighters are cannon fodder who jump Goku at the start and get accidentally blown off the stage when Goku goes SSJ

this is so retarded that I'm willing to bet it's exactly what's going to happen

>>154755287
Goku is killing all the strongest people in the universe whilst Gohan is being so strong he is increasing it.

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>>154755099
Not falling for that one

>>154755284
>Hey dad some asshole killed all our kais and GoDs. We're gonna crash here for awhile
>Shit, don't let Zeno-sama find out or he'll obliterate all of existence.

>>154755192
>Goku said "don't worry we got Gohan@
>Goku said Gohan is raising U7's rank and didn't deny he was lowering it when Beerus said so
>Vegeta acknowledged Gohan has the most potential
>Champa acknowledged how strong he was for tanking SBB Goku's mega pitch baseball and Gohan was in base fucking form
>Whis acknowledged his potential during BoG
>Even fucking Gohan himself said he guess he is a saiyan he got fucking pumped from Goku and Toppo fighting

This is the same thing they did in DBZ, they teased Gohan for evey arc until the Cell saga. Future has done the same thing, Gohan has been teased in every arc until now and when nobody expects it we'll see him be the fucking hero U7 deserves

Best boy is back deal with it bitch

>>154755084

hmm bring back zamasu and Black or lose with shit fighters and get erased

the former makes more sense but toriyama is a hack

>>154755296
why did they draw beerus like a dog in this episode?

why is krillin as strong as the red wolfgang bro?

>>154755316
No I mean the fact that they called it Super Saiyan 1

>>154755284
You'd think he'd be a little pissed about all his children being phased out of existence, among all the other stuff.

>>154755307
It seems so but
>Boku: Yeah we have Gohan to raise that mortal level
>who are the Briefs
>who is Kamiccolo

is Zeno autistic?

>>154755296

It's not
It has been proven time and time agains by its utter lack of characterization and rushed pacing coupled with contrived plot and events that mitigate any of the praise it gets.

>>154755361
>replies with an image from a chapter with an inconsistency
You already did anon.
You already did.

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>>154755433

>>154755294
>female Broly

Weaker than the original Broly and at this stage, the legendary Supersaiyan form isn't that much of a concern anymore.

>>154755317
>>154755261

Yes. He did go SSB.

After several minutes of getting his bones crushed and his ribs cracked and screaming out in agony.

I would've accepted if he was weakened a bit from the fight with the furfag and couldn't power up, but obviously he was fucking capable of it since he let himself almost die and get knocked out of SSJ before deciding to actually try and go SSB.

>Kaioken lets go beyond your limit
>limit break x survivor
Are they even trying?

>>154755008
nah Buu is going to go after Toppo. What the heck are you going to do when you fight a guy that is playdoh, regenerates, and you can get turned into a candy bar up close?

>>154755082
After all that's happened to Goku he hasn't broken a sweat and he remains smug. I think Goku was fucking Toppo up, man.

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>>154755395
I wouldn't be so forthright but I hope this is true and my dreams don't turn into memes.

>>154755286
Let's say Goku wishes them back, why wouldn't Zeno just destroy them all again?

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>>154755230
>not the weak jobber cuck Black from the manga
Nice meme

>>154753768
SSJ2 trunks was never ever established as stronger than ssj3 goku. In fact, goku beats trunks much like beerus beat goku on their first battle. With one strike. You're confusing trunk's rage saiyan gary stu transformation with ssj2.

>>154755395
ningen level isn't power level

>>154755454
>the legendary Supersaiyan form isn't that much of a concern
She has 40 hours to constantly raise her power.

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>>154754602
Champa knows that he's screwed. needing ten fighters and all

>>154754775
>adding mortal level which is totally irrelevant
>"Helles"
>"Anato"
>"IWES"
>"Agu"
>Broliko in U11 because an already debunked reasoning

Is... is this what they call... "cancer"?

>>154755462
I'm so happy Kaioken is relevant again. I understand why Toriyama didn't let Goku use it after he got Super Saiyan but still I missed it

>>154755409
This isn't hard to understand, he was just giving some praise to gohan for being intelligent, his intent wasn't telling beerus that Gohan is the most intelligent there is.

>>154755462
Do you think even Zeno-sama will be blown away?

>>154755462
>"Jiren, I will limt break and become the one survivor"
what the fuck were they thinking?

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>>154753151
What are the chances of gohan SSB thanks to the time capsule?

inb4 they are not smart enough to train on it beforehand

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>>154755006
>he keeps trying
Aww so cute

>>154755127
I'm sure he wouldn't be that desperate or hurry to make the plan done, after winning the tournament, he can continue his plan

>>154755580
Super Saiyan Orange is going be an actual thing

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Anyone see Kabba changing forms?

WHITE

HAIRED

VEGITO

>>154753529
The anime has never once handled anything better.

>>154755599
This image makes me itchy for some reason.

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>>154755599
THIS IS THE END FOR YOU,JIREN
I HAVE GONE BEYOND THE LIMIT OF NORMALS SAIYANS

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>>154755361

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"JUSTICE"

>>154755592
>lowering and raising your power level is the same as constantly transforming into a form confirmed for having an activation cost
So, what's with all of the Toybletards lately?

>>154755580
What's Goku's limit break called? OmniGoku?

How are they going to showcase the ten fighters if it's a giant battle royal?

>>154755523
I am so fucking sad for champa. But i think hit has the potential to carry u6 well until he gets sandwiched between goku and jiren

>>154754150
Toppo confirmed for racist. Eh universist.

>>154755661
saved

>>154755621
Cabba will get his arm broken and by humiliated by 18.
Screencap this.

EMOTIONAL DAMAGE

>>154755592
not even the same thing, suck toyo AF super fanfiction more

>>154754215
If you took the mask off, would they die?

>>154755667
>>154755661
nice

>>154755668
He's using Kaioken not changing his power level you dumb fuck.
Besides there was absolutely no established rules about activating blue from red, Shin even said it's the same strategy that Goku used for conserving stamina previously.

Reminder that a white haired SSJ form was spoiled in an ad for keychains and that it spoiled that Vegito would be the one using the form.

Remind that it isn't light yellow, because next to it was shown a regular SSJ3 Goku in the correct yellow SSJ color.

Reminder that SSB was also spoiled before the RoF movie by figures of Goku and Vegeta in the SSB forms.

Reminder that you should screen cap this post so I can tell you faggots off when it comes true.

>>154755678
Omnihameha. Then in the movie he'll get Omnihameha version 5. Then in the director's cut he'll have Omnihameha version 6 instead.

>>154755668
it's a monthly thing that they always come out at this time before going into hiding after us Toeichads humiliate them

>>154755735
>Reminder that a white haired SSJ form was spoiled in an ad for keychains and that it spoiled that Vegito would be the one using the form.
Sauce?

>>154755735
>Reminder that a white haired SSJ form was spoiled in an ad for keychains
/r/ source

>>154755752
>us Toeichads
You're the most humiliating thing here.

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>>154755173
This is what hes thinking anon. Rough edit

WHERE IS THE 720P REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>154754773
Raughs*

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>>154754606
I'm so Fucking glad this shit was Anime only. And some anons dare to say Manga Black was edgier than Anime Black.
Based Tory/Toyo

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>>154755173
ZAMAS

>>154755683
Who says they are going ot get showcased?

If the fighters from U9, and the U7 vs U6 tournament are anything to go by, most of the fighters from the other universes are going to be fodder tier, with each having 1, maybe 2, actually strong opponents

Gowasu is the best character in Super bar none

>>154755634
I found secret footage of Goku breaking his limit in the final battle against Toppo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXeEd93PHLw

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Leave Son Goku to me.

>>154755740
He's make it rain Kamehamehas with Kamehameharain

>>154755668
>>154755708
>I-It doesn't matter if is still more balanced and less draining that using the strongest form all time, transform still use a bit of ki so isn't the same!

I love your tears

>>154755685
Hit will be useless in this tournament.

Time is none existing and I bet he cannot create space either if you interpret his powers the other way.

>>154755755
>>154755764
See previous threads for images.

>>154754458
did toei forget beerus is a cat?

>>154754721
at some point repeating some trivial bullshit 200 times everytime a new thread appears stops being informative and starts being autistic

Why is no one in the hyperbolic time chamber

You have 40 hours, how is no one in their right now, fuck Gohan get your weak ass in there and find your balls again

I know they'll retcon the ending because of the dragon balls, but what will be the justification? Zeno will just allow them all to survive?

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>>154755523

>>154755685
yeah. with U7 and U11 around. Champa doesn't have much of a chance

>>154755668
It's one guy samefagging. Everyone hates the manga so he decided it would le epic to troll by saying the manga was good.

>>154754632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=petqFm94osQ

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>>154755735
Vegito's SSJ hair has always been a light yellow except for when he's powering up. SSJ was always a light yellow up until the Buu saga when they changed it to mustard yellow.

>>154755839

Jiren the grAAAAAAY LMAO

>>154755723
Except kaioken works nothing like toyble said SSB did.
Kaioken can be activated instantly because that's how it's meant to be used, SSB is very explicitly said to take too much energy and using it in quick sucession lowers your power.


>Besides there was absolutely no established rules about activating blue from red, Shin even said it's the same strategy that Goku used for conserving stamina previously.

this doesn't still justify the fact toyble had to retcon the established mechanics he made up for that scene to happen at all.

>>154755740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4CNM89W9k0
I can't for Ayy lmao to get BTFO

>>154755881
Vegeta destroyed it remember

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>>154754702

>>154755923
>SSB is very explicitly said to take too much energy and using it in quick sucession lowers your power.
That statement means jack shit because he's going from God-Red to God-Blue.
Not Ningen (base) into God Super Saiyan in succession.

>>154754849
Galick Gun isn't even Vegeta's strongest move though. Goku used his absolute strongest move outside spirit bomb.

Vegeta's biggest is final flash, big bang, and then galick gun

>>154755862
>literally stated in U6 that transforming once already dropped the power to 1/10th
By the way why didn't Vegeta just use SSG against Hit again?

>>154755934
My left ear thanks you

>>154754585
ayy lmao

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>>154755934
>not posting director's cut version
pleb

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Here's a better but still shit edit of gowasu thinking

>>154755511
Repeating myself, "I guess Toei only invented the drain and Toyotaro copied it, also Toei writers, who invented the thing, decided totally ignore it while Toyotaro is doing stuff with it... right?"
Is that what's happening, according to you? Are you that desperate? This is the first time I ever see a toeishill denying that stuff that we see in both versions are from Toriyama, is funny how far you can go when is about shitting on the manga

>>154755723
>He's using Kaioken not changing his power level you dumb fuck.
He doesn't use Kaioken at all during that fight. He's simply just raising and lowering his power.

>Besides there was absolutely no established rules about activating blue from red
Yeah, Toyble established that Blue wasn't a form that could be activated multiple times in quick succession as a whole. There's nothing stating that Red makes a difference.

>Shin even said it's the same strategy that Goku used for conserving stamina previously
All he says is something along the lines of
>didn't you do that?

>>154755658
me too what the fuck

>>154755961
Whis never said anything about ningen to nothing. He said transforming, period.

why did beerus claim goku has brought the mortal level down?

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>>154755919
calm down mai

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>>154755752
>us Toeichads

>>154756011
>He doesn't use Kaioken at all during that fight.
You're fucking clueless.

>>154755599
What the fuck, this makes me itch really badly.

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Goku is really a fighting maniac, he doesn't care how many universes are destroyed as long as he has a good fight.

>>154756053
Okay then, prove it.

>>154755523
Get some earthlings, get saiyans, get metal man(there is a 2nd one in the opening). Just Hit alone could probably take out more than half alone with his gimmick shit.
Or wait for the other universes to waste energy while trying to take Goku out, while standing still and saving yourself while eating popcorns.

>>154755683
They won't. Most will be out in seconds like fodders.

>>154753151
>it's okay when toyo does it

>>154756022
>He said transforming, period.
Yeah transforming into blue is taxing, but not ever did they first establish that there would be a stamina issue going from Red to Blue.
It was unexplained before and the new mechanics can easily fit within pre-established lore.

>>154755961
Again, stop presenting your shitty speculation as a counterargument.
This is never stated or even implied to be the reason SSB had that weakness.

>>154756108
So basically Toyble retconned his previous assertion.

>>154755661
n1

>>154755968
And stated this chapter that Vegeta trained to be able to transform several times ignoring the cooldown, so?

>By the way why didn't Vegeta just use SSG against Hit again?
Look like you forgot he wanted (in both versions) show Cabba the strongest saiyan form. Mr. muh pride probably thought cooldowned SSB would be enough but it wasn't and Goku won by being smarter.

>>154756089
Fuck off Toppo.

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>>154753151
>Beerus retire as God of destruction
>Make Vegeta the new GoD
>Beerus fight in the tournament of power
>??????
>Profit

>>154756024
He killed Frieza and the ginyu force, only reason I can think of.

>>154756089
That's why I love him.

>>154756089
no shit thats what saiyans are like

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>>154755444

>>154756146
That's shit writing though. Would you be okay if Toyo made SSG stronger than SSB?

>>154756108
And they didn't establish it so you don't get to make bullshit up and pretend this becomes consistent.

You're presenting the absence of counter evidence as proof positive for your claims.

>>154756146
>Look like you forgot he wanted (in both versions) show Cabba the strongest saiyan form
Thing is, rather than being defeated because of the drain in the anime he was defeated purely because of Hit's timeskip.

>>154756108
>but not ever did they first establish that there would be a stamina issue going from Red to Blue
The issue is tranforming into Blue, which Vegeta is doing several times in a row now. And that still doesn't explain why Vegeta didn't go SSG against Hit if he was aware of the weakness.

>the new mechanics can easily fit within pre-established lore
Except it hasn't, as of right now, it's your headcanon.

>>154755880
But I'm autistic...

>>154756117
It's common sense from the new information given this chapter.
No matter how you cut it there's no reason the new rule can't co exist with pre established rule, Red interfacing with Blue is barely explained previously.

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Leave Jiren to me, dad.

guys i heard a new manga is out called Dragonball Super AF

>>154756221
>It's common sense
"Common sense" doesn't account for this clear retcon.

Will Goku even mention about getting Monaka next episode or did they entirely forget about him?

EXHIBITION MATCHS POWER RANKING
1. Buu vs. Basil
2. Gohan vs. Lavender
3. Goku vs. Toppo
4. Goku vs Bergamo

>>154754074
>implying his won't get assblasted by jiren

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>>154756252

>>154756146
>And stated this chapter that Vegeta trained to be able to transform several times ignoring the cooldown, so?
Then why even bother going SSG?

>Mr. muh pride probably thought cooldowned SSB would be enough but it wasn't
He clearly started getting his ass kicked and had enough time to go SSG, he didn't. There is no shame in using a weaker form, in fact, it's a shame having to use your strongest to match the opponent, or in his case, get raped by him

>>154756274
Beerus will probably go
>NO NO NO YOU CAN'T GET HIM OR HE'LL WIPE THEM ALL OUT!

>>154756274
they can always have scoobeerus explain it away

>>154756184
>Would you be okay if Toyo made SSG stronger than SSB?
What?

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>>154755923
>Using Blue in quick succession lowers your power
>Vegeta spent a year in the chamber training to reduce the negative effects of this
>Retards somehow don't understand this
Learn to read you dumb niggers

>>154756305
My guess is that it won't even be brought up, despite Goku believing that he's even stronger. If he asks, just tell him that Monaka isn't strong. He has other universes to fight now.

>>154756096
I was wrong they explained the Invisible/Instant Kaioken technique was later on in the arc.

http://mangaseeonline.us/read-online/Dragon-Ball-chapter-118-index-2-page-14.html

>>154756184
He already fell into the same trap of writing toei did with the kaioken.

The method vegeta used has no evident drawbacks, now there is no real need to transform into blue outside the time they're attacking, unless toyble pulls another shitty explanation out of his ass as to why it isn't possible.

>>154756331
You guys are okay with Toyo suddenly getting rid of what he previously established. Obviously you guys would accept anythign Toyo does

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>Low powerlevel problem
>Bringing Tien, Krillin and Roshi
>Not reviving Golden Frieza, Cell and Dabura
>Frieza
>maybe convince him to revive and after winning just go to another universe without goku
>Cell
>tourney addict
>Dabura
>Can just spit and petrify everyone, easy win