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What's with the whole blonde hair blue eyes thing anyway with the conveniently human looking xenos anyway? Bitch I've been rocking the Aryan style and you don't see me crying home about it.
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First for 18 for best waifu.
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What are you expecting for tonight's fight?
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>>154725168
safe bets? safe bets
toppo apologizes to son goku
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>>154725246
>Justice apologizing to evil
No way.
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>>154725270
We'll see
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SSG is for handsome
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>>154725108
>mfw my waifu didn't win
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>>154725365
Well I guess liking 18 is just more mainstream. Not sure about that smugpup though that seems more funny than anything else. Better than having gary stu in #1.
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>>154725365
at least your waifu was an option
I had to pick others
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>>154725406
Whis is not a waifu though he was in the husbandos.
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>>154725108
When was this? Who is smugpup? Vegeta?
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>>154725422
never said whis is my waifu/husbando
Did I now? He is really expressive
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>>154725427

Smugpup is pretty much the go to blank slate for those who don't like supporting the current cast of Dragon Ball Super. He's a character that appears for less than a second in the opening scene.
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>>154725427
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That's it. Im getting sick and tired of DBS' inconsistency.
Dragon Ball and DBZ was consistent as fuck. There was never a plothole at all.

But in Super there is a huge one, and by huge I mean HUGE.

Everyone saw the last Tournament between U6 and U7. Including Zeno.
That tournament was dominated by U7 fighters, they DID WON.
Not to mention Beerus is way stronger than Champa.
So you can't say "ningens lost, but the Hakaishin is stronger".

Now how the fuck is Universe 6 is superior to Universe 7???

> If you would say it's TOei's fault, I 'd believe that!
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>>154725554
But he will never be as cool as Liqueel/Rikeeru.
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>>154725554
I don't so much dislike the characters of Dragon Ball Super, but I voted Smugpup because the loyalists towards the other characters eventually boil down to shitposting against each other and calling each other faggots or retards.

Smugpup just represented that neutral area of DBS General threads.
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>>154725626
What this anon said. But the lighthearted non-canon silliness of the character won me over. It's a nice break from the anime / manga shitfest that plagues these threads.
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There was the manga like sketch of smugpup the guy who draws him did the other day did anyone save that drawing?
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Soon
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>>154725168
More of this
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>>154725619
i dont know about others but this meme is the best thing in a long time
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Is anyone else hoping for Super Saiyan Rage to make an appearance in the manga purely because this is the last chance we'll ever get for an explanation of what the fuck it even is supposed to be??

Even if it's just one fucking sentence of explanation, I just want something.
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>>154726073
Very excited to see the climax and how this arc ends.
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>>154724999
>implying db takes place in asia
Goku isn't even 0.01% asian. Neither is Bulma. Blonde hair was done by Launch decades ago.
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>>154726201
Launch was the first Super Saiyan
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>>154718500
>It was Toriyama who fucked up back in the Cell saga.

toyofags everyone, toyo changed it in the manga not toriyama, the anime doesn't have the bullshit too, geekdoom proved you toyofags already wrong
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>>154726263
>YouTube shit
You don't belong here, retard.
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>>154726263

>Toyocuck / Toeishill ragewar posting.

Go away, we're all tired of you and the opposing side's shit.
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>>154726263
>toyo changed it in the manga not toriyama
toriyama has direct supervision over the manga, nothing gets past him my man
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>>154726263
I know you're trying to start that annoying anime vs manga shit again, but that guy is right. Read the last chapter of the Cell saga and you will see Trunks waiting 3 years for the time machine to recharge, instead of the 8 months he waited earlier in the saga.

Now fuck off back to youtube, faggot.
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>>154726263
Geekdom was proven wrong you dumb fucking newfag.
Daizenshuu's dates were retconned but it was a small price to pay to keep new content consistent with the old manga.
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>>154724999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ah19kT4zqZg
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>>154726847
Subararsheeeit
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>>154726073
Knowing Toyo, he will get SSG instead.
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>>154726920
knowing simple logic, he should've gotten SSG instantly via ritual

same with gohan in this tournament of power arc
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>>154725626
>>154725554
That wasn't exactly a poll for favorite character though. It was a husbando poll, so you should vote for the character you want to fug.
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>>154726944
Knowing DB, they could just retcon/make up a new way to get SSG.
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>>154726978

What's wrong with fugging the smug?
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>>154727030
Well given most of the options would probably murder you, I thinking fugging the smug or being fugged by the smug is one of the more valid options.

Probably one of the only candidates on the list outside of Shu who's either underage or a midget who wouldn't outright kill you.
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>>154726978
A really poorly-done poll, btw. Didn't have popular husbandos, like Piccolo and Black but had weird options like Toppo.

A husbando poll should be done by a fag or a woman.
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>>154725744
Here
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>>154727104

I don't think you can fug a slug
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>>154727298
Piccolo could just grow a dick like he grew a fifth finger in the manga.

You just have to be creative, anon.
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>>154727325
>He screams in pain as it explodes out covered in green goop.
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>>154727506
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I want to throat-fuck Whis!
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>>154727574
Dude wtf that's gay as fuck! The fuck you doin that nasty shit for yo?!
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>>154727574
I want to teabag Zamasu!
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>>154727656
Aww damn nigga, fucks the matter with you?
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>>154727168

I want to cuddle and stroke smugpup behind the ears in bed furiously.
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>>154727656
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>you can only get SSG via ritual
>Vegeta gets it in the ROSAT

>SS Black wrecked SSB Vegeta
>SSG Vegeta wins against SSR Black by switching between SSB and SSG

>SSB takes 90% of your power if you turn it off and on again
>Vegeta does exactly that and still wins

>Toyocucks will defend this
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What the fuck? What's with all these faggot homos all of a sudden?! Go the fuck away back to your containment board.
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>no Goku vs Black in the manga
>instead we get Vegeta vs Black three times

>Toyocucks will defend this
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>>154727924
Too late, you've been infected
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>mangafags calling anyone who remotely likes any aspect of the anime toeishills
>animefags calling anyone who prefers parts of the manga to the anime toyocucks
>nonstop shitposting for several weeks
>absolutely ningen

>Smugpup will defend this
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>>154728013
Not one bit. I fucking hate gay fags and now there's people talking about cucks? I mean what the fuck happened to this place. What the fuck is wrong with you all? Have some self respect and pride for fucks sake.
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>>154728015
/ourpup/
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Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister
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>Toyotaro manages to keep best form (aka SSG) and make it work with SSB as two actual useful forms you must use it properly to win, forcing Goku and Vegeta to be more strategic

>"T-Toyble is obsessed with SSG!"

Are some brains too simple to handle more than the "new SS2 - now it's blue instead spikier!" that SSB is in the anime?
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Super Buu
look in his eyes and spook yourselves
look at his mannerisms. I would rather die to kid buu
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>>154728210
>best form
>the cheapest form
>the form you could give to literally any Saiyan alive but you don't

Why didn't they perform the ritual on Trunks?

Totally
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>>154728107
That's how things are around here, newfriend.
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>>154728347
>Hey there gorgeous would you like a taste of my chocolate sundae surprise?
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>>154725108
> no black

What? Not even a blackfag but thay's surprising, or he's considered the same as Zamasu?
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Why dd they choose Toyotaro? Why?
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>>154726073
The explanation is just Toei.
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>>154728293
Surprisingly enough most, almost all of the hardcore homophobic people I used to know who used to chant death to all fags turned out to be the most disgustingly flamboyant homofags who turn hardcore SJW as well, or threw their money at something and joined a gay hating group made up to try make the gay go away (some of them still turned out to be gay after doing this).

When I see you hating on them like this you just remind me of them.
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>>154728349
>no SSG Goku, SSG Vegeta, SSG Goten, SSG Trunks and SSG Gohan fighting Beerus at BoG
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>>154728347

regular fat Majin Buu is by far the scariest of them all

they neutered him in Super
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>>154728399
The husbando poll was shit. The anon who created it didn't know what he was doing.
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>>154728399
Goku and Zamasu were already on the poll list
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>>154727656
I want to teabag Zamasu's tea and watch him drink it afterwards.
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>>154728439
>muh homophobia
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>>154728661
Sad thing is I can't tell what's more pathetic. Most probably the oversensitive SJWs they've become.

Spend half their lives getting pissy at people they don't want to associate with. Spend the second half of their lives getting pissy at people who refuse to associate with them.
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>>154728655
Black should be there though, he is a way more popular husbando than just Zamasu and sexier than Goku.
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>>154728734
They're literally the same person you autist, why does it matter?
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>>154728763
Zamasu's personality with Goku's body, anon. Of course it's different.
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>>154728779
It's like how Ginyu!Bra is hotter than regular Bra in that shitty fanfiction.
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>>154728838
Like how Smunks is infinitely more awesome then Trunks?
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>>154726073
>>154726151
No foreshadowing at all. Probably won't happen.

Trunks will probably kill Zamasu with Goku's spirit bomb, a la saiyan arc with Krilin
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So do any of you remember that time when Lupin disguised himself as Vegeta bsck on the Namek Saga?
I liked that episode.
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Reminder that Zamasu is hot
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>>154728139
I wish you the most painful lung cancer
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>>154729303
And I wish you a nice day.
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>>154725325
WHY IS SSG VEGETA SO CUTE?
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>>154729157
das rite
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>>154729373
Smugpupfag is that you again wishing good will on people for no reason?
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Translation?
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>>154729459
they're saying "pink" a lot, so I'm guessing it has something to do with Rosé's name
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>>154729454
... N-No?

>>154729459
Eh? Pink!? Why are you that color?

Your taste in style couldn't comprehend. This form is called... SUPER SAIAYN ROSÉ.

The fuck is Rosé? Isn't that pink?

Yeah it's pink
That's pink
Hey
This Pink bastard
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>>154729459
>goku: wh-what was that?
>black: i said... you're waifu a shit
>goku: DELET THIS!
>vegeta: that bastard
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>>154729549
Lies this one is the good accurate translation>>154729565
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Leave the tournament to me.
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>>154729757
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>>154729667
But anon, DELET THIS is こを消すI MEAN YES... Accurate Translation, this, YES, much more accurate than my own.
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where can i see the new chapter
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>>154727574
Whis actually turned me gay or atleast bi. Have fapped to him many times
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>>154730011
In Japan after you purchase it from a retail outlet.
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When is Piccolo gonna get the red eyed Namekian form?
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>>154730077
When enough medicine is prescribed
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>>154730108
thanks doc
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>>154726073
I don't want that shitty asspull in the manga.
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>>154730046
Thats fuckin gay dude, Vados is where it's at
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>>154730187
Supreme taste.
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>>154729802
neat.
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>>154730069
FUCK YOU CUNT
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>>154729398
Something something ningen
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>>154729549
why is a furfag translate for us?! why is this waste of oxygen allowed to read japanese but we cant. life is so fucking unfair
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>>154730352
What's stopping you from learning Japanese, anon?
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>>154730408
He's a furfag :^)
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>>154730408
>>154730423
fuck you retards, have fun bowind gdown to your dog fucker
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>>154730352

Hey it's not too hard to get started, look up a list of Katakana and Hiragana and memorize one row at a time and you'll be on your way with the basics - If you want I can link you to sites to get you started, I mean I lived over in Japan for a while so I guess I have an unfair advantage.
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>>154730458
The fuck are tallking about? I just asked you why you aren't learning Japanese.
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>>154730458
Im not even close to a furfag, but anyone and anything against "mangafags vs animefags" can stay.
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ill be laughing when goku stamps on your shitty retard dogs face into pieces goku is a hero faggotpup is not
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What was going through Vegeta's head here?
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>>154730657
"Trunks, if you can hear what I'm thinking, you're a good boy and I'm proud of you"
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>>154730011
We don't have the full chapter yet.
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>>154730657
>thank god this isn't my son
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>>154730657
>>154730688
>>154730715
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>>154730187
This, also U10 and U11 angles.
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>>154730657
More importantly, what was going through Goku's head?
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What did they mean by this?
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>>154730657
I wish Kakarot would hold me like that.
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>>154730800
"Is this Gohan? I haven't seen him for so long, Oh wow Gohan, that reminds me of dinner, I'm hungry now"
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>>154730657
>this kid saved my life how many times now?
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post qt 3.14 zamasu
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WHERE'S THE CHAPTER?!!?!!
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>>154730840
"Man all this thinking of food is making me hungry for fighting, if only I could eat punches, then life would be good. Mmm punches. I wonder if in another Universe, fighting is food, maybe I should ask Zen-O if he can make a Universal Fighting tournament so I can eat fighting."
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>>154730800
"You disappoint me."
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Can I have lavagoku.jpg pls
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>>154731073

Oh god I actually read that out in my head in Goku's voice, and it worked. I can actually imagine Goku thinking like this,
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>>154731073
>>154730840
No wonder Zamasu was right
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>>154730917
I bet Vegeta wants to fuck Gohan. Not even Goku praises Gohan that much.
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>FOOOOAR GOOOHAAAANNN
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>>154731308
It seems to run in the vegetable family.
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>>154731308
>I bet Vegeta wants to fuck Gohan
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>>154731368
Everytime.
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Unless Goku uses it in the new arc, the Mafuba was a stupid idea
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>>154731617
It's how they'll seal the angels and zeno right before end of Z
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>>154730639
If smugpup is here to defend my smile, I will be there to defend his. Don't you worry.
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>>154725107
Black was transformed in the manga while in the anime he was in base and distracted, and that one bullet wasn't any bullet
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>>154730917
>He's even lost his gi!
>"Hey Gohan help me with this"
>"Ok"
>pic related

I'm sick of Gohan's lies
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>>154731949
He lost his Picolo Gi, so he take his father's GI
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>/a/ and smugpup
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>degenerate furfags
yiff in hfil
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>>154731988
He just needs his own
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>>154731949
>>154731988
Can't Piccolo just create clothes with magic?
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>>154732221
Am I the only one who liked the tracksuit?
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I dunno what to feel about the Black Saga between Anime and Manga

Yes, the fucking anime had horrible pacing, animation or power level inconsistencies, but at least Black was menacing, smug and Trunks (even though he became a Gary Stu) was actually useful and destroy the "Goku wins lol" trope

On the other side, the manga Is better paced, Goku Is not a fucking retard and the power levels are coherent, but Black acting like a salty bitch when losing, Trunks being irrelevant and the saga becoming "Goku and Vegeta win lol" makes it disappointing.
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>>154732341
>Black was menacing
Top kek
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>>154732399
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>>154732399
>Krillin actually hit that
how
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>>154732448
They got blacked but not at that moment
If there isn't a manga version of pic related, then there should be
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>>154732498
That's the sad thing. Toriyama isn't good enough to write how Krillin managed it so we'll never know.
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>>154730764
It's so cute when Trunks did the Final Flash, makes me shiver.
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>>154732341
>but Black acting like a salty bitch when losing,
You mean like this?
https://u.nya.is/ehxitj.mp4
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Fuck man toyotaro dropped the ball on this one ffs.
I overlooked the mess that was the nonsensical powerscaling during black ssj vs vegeta ssj2/blue but this shit right here makes no sense.
Vegeta switching from red to blue every time he attacks goes against what he established about the form's drawback.
Other things that piss me off is that he doesnt bother making good choreography anymore and that goku never managed to face black at all.
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>>154731476
Delete this.
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Besides Goku's sacrifice vs Cell, Is there a better death than this?

https://youtu.be/tctMHBOObxo

He died like a fucking God.
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>>154732672
But that's Galick Gun, not Final Flash
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>>154732717
Oh shit, sorry
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>>154732498
survivor's guilt and the dragon balls.
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>>154732498
>>154732660
She was kinda interested at the start when they fought and she liked him after he got rid of her bomb.

But in reality, Toriyama can't write women and she became subservient to the first strong man as soon as she stopped fighting.
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>>154732707
>Frieza almost shitting himself because he thought Bardock was going SSJ
based
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>>154732312
I liked it too.
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>>1547323417
>Black was menacing
Black and Zamasu are incompetent as fuck in the anime.


>Trunks beign irrelevant

>saves Goku from being killed and his body stolen by Zamasu
>saves everyone's lifes blinding Zamasu and Black (no fucking gas)
>saves Goku and Vegeta again fighting Zamasu and Black being only SS3 tier (helped by his based waifu)
>manages to survive against Rosé Black (without asspulls, I mean) and will defeat merged Zamasu using the Genki-sword

>irrelevant


>Black acting like a salty bitch when losing
I don't get this one. Black being angry is bad? Also that was in the anime too >>154732700
>inb4 but he recovered
Yeah, with another asspull in filler. Zamasu is almost sealed and Black is defeated by Vegeta, that's canon, Black becoming stronger again and mixting Bleach and Naruto to fight Vegeta again is filler.

>the saga becoming "Goku and Vegeta win lol"
That's the same in both versions, that's Toriyama outline.
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>>154732701
I know how you feel I only followed super because at least we had one medium who isnt total shite with the manga but toyotaro is pushing so much of his own shit into it its kinda garbage.
Anime was a shitshow from the start but now the manga disappoints too in a monthly basis thats not good. I might drop the whole super crap
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So animefags only loves Black so much because is a ridiculous powerhouse? Makes sense, it was the same with Hit.
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>>154732906
But I don't like Hit, his head looks like a dick and he makes donuts
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I'm rooting for smugpup because I like rooting for the underdog
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Time for toyokeks to go back to irrelevancy tonight when Based Toei delivers another exciting episode
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>>154732940
>he doesnt like dicks and donuts
MODS
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>>154732364
that db gals line
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>>154732795
>he thought Bardock was going SSJ
>not going Brilliant Scientist God
apply yourself.
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>>154732906
No, because he was smug,even when losing never lost his edge,manga black looks worried scaried when he isn't dominating
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>>154732701
Toyo's obsession with ssg is ruining the manga I understood it when he used it against hit which was a brilliant way of using it and made more sense than kaioken x10.
But vegeta's way of using really makes no sense and like you said contradicts itself. Also agree as well that the fights in the manga have been boring lately
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>>154732975

Yeah I'm looking forwards to tonight for Kamen Rider Ex-AID
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>>154732975
Anime is trash and only meme wise bearable. Manga was supposed to be the shining hope but toyo is slowly becoming a fucking AF hack
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>Toyotaro is obsessed with use useful stuff

Is this the new toeishill meme?
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>>154732940
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>>154733065
Thats what happens when you employ a faggot that did a fanfic about fucking GT
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>>154732448
I fucking love this scene
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>>154733080
I am a manga fan but stop sucking the guy's dick so much . Vegeta's use of ssg and ssb combination makes no sense and contradicts with what whis said not to mention toyo's powerscale is fucking garbage since chapter 19
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>>154732498
>How
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>>154732701
>>154732880
>>154733006
Wait until it's translated before you bash it based on your incorrect headcanon you stupid fucks.
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>>154733004
>he was smug
As manga-Black.

>even when losing never lost his edge
He was Vegeta bitch, Toriyama wants Black to be Vegeta's bitch, doesn't matter how much you cry about it.

>Black looks worried when he isn't dominating
So manga-Black is like... anyone with a brain? If you are in problems you are in problems, pretend like you aren't would not help you.
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>>154732906
I love how Toyotaro found a logical way to have Black keep increasing in strength and not contradict the statements made during the Ginyu fight.

I mean the fanbase has always been talking about how the Saiyans should just exploit the hell out of Zenkai and now we have a villain who does exactly that. Way more interesting than Anime Black where he arbitrarily just becomes stronger whenever he begins to lose.
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>>154733164
>Vegeta's use of ssg and ssb combination makes no sense and contradicts with what whis said not to mention toyo's powerscale is fucking garbage since chapter 19
You don't know this you fucking idiot.
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>>154733236
The same was said when vegeta beat black so easily. I remember tons of people usimg headcanon like "black wasn't even trying durr" no toyo is becoming more and more shit and cant write for shit
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Soon
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>everyone forgetting that Vegeta went to the Room of Plot & Convenience last chapter
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>>154733261
>So manga-Black is like... anyone with a brain? If you are in problems you are in problems, pretend like you aren't would not help you.
>This character trait is uncommon therefore no one can have it
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>>154733298
>Black/Zamasu will never be your master and call you ningen everytime
>Instead Bojack will be master
What a ningen
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>>154733280
Some leaks have been translated I am just going with what we know and so far toyo contradicts itself. If yhere was a valid explanation to it why wasnt there a leak of it? Because there probably is none
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>>154733164
>I am a manga fan
Yeah, sure you are

>Vegeta's use of ssg and ssb combination makes no sense and contradicts with what whis said
>*Vegeta's use of SSG and SSB combination makes no sense because contradicts with what Whis said
FTFY
Toyotaro forgot SSB cooldown, I know, so? Is the manga ruined because Toyotaro finally make a mistake? I guess such a thing as a good DB series don't exist, then.

>not to mention toyo's powerscale is fucking garbage since chapter 19
Why?
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>>154726350
He just checks the paneling sometimes, holy fuck Toyofags denial is strong
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>>154733261
>He was Vegeta bitch, Toriyama wants Black to be Vegeta's bitch, doesn't matter how much you cry about it.
THIS
Also anime black never lost his cool or sperged out when vegeta beat him in the anime not to mention in the manga vegeta is 2-1 against black
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>>154732982
hnnnngh
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>>154732364
>>154732399
Why go and give her autisticly huge cow tits?
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>>154733401
>The author forgets a central plot point in a fight that completely destroyed Vegeta and allowed Goku to win
>Who cares?
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>>154732399

>>154732498
>how
thank Toriyama for that

>Speaking of women who fight, there is No. 18.

>Toriyama:Ah, that’s right. No. 18 becomes Kuririn’s wife in the end.

>Nozawa:Ah, I was surprised at that, too! All the voice actors wondered, “Why did she choose Kuririn?” (laughs)

>Toriyama:Kuririn was originally supposed to be just a minor role, so to have him become Goku’s best friend in the blink of an eye…

>Koyama:Well, he is the strongest Earthling male.

>Toriyama:You’re right, he is the strongest among the Earthlings. But in spite of that, he tends to end up in a bad way, so I thought, “once in a while, I have to let him be happy,” and had him get married. (laughs)
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>>154733438
>Also anime black never lost his cool
Why do animefags always lie?
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>not knowing SSG refills your energy with base god ki so SSGSS can drain it.
scrubs
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>>154727950
Not to mention the abscene of that 2tag battle with Goku and Trunks vs Goku Black and Zamasu, that shit was glorious
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>>154733401
>Toyotaro forgot SSB cooldown, I know, so? Is the manga ruined because Toyotaro finally make a mistake?
The guy has been making mistakes every two chapters now thats way too fucking much. Yes mistakes takes away from enjoying something sry that I like stuff that isnt braindead why do you think people hate the anime? Because its retarded as fuck and I hoped the manga wouldnt end up like that
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>Still discussing a fucking chapter that isn't out, not even translated

DB fanbase was always autistic, but this is too much
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>>154733297
But that's what happened, he wanted another zenkai. Are you literally retarded? Chapter 19 apparently was inconsistent and toeshills screamed like autist but chapter 20 shut them up
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>>154728210
You can't say its the best form when Toriyama itself put it in the trash in the same movie where it appeared
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>>154733504
>Discussing something new
>HOW DARE YOU
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>>154733489
Nice headcanon paco
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>>154733321
Nobody said such a thing.
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>>154733452
Because the figure line is like that
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>>154733438
>Anime Black never lost his cool or sperged except when he lost his cool or sperged when Vegeta beat
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Why are they so bad at dancing?

https://youtu.be/yL2xCKXOGH4
https://youtu.be/kUc3L-nCnGU
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>>154733527
>discussing things with no fucking context or translation

Yes, fucking autistic
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>>154733573
In the anime, Black is smug even when he's being beaten, yet this is somehow bad because it's not something anyone would do. Ok
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>>154733598
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>>154733506
Thos doesnt proof anything also use viz translation of chapter 20. Nice nitpicking though.
Black was never surpressing his power
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>>154733438
>in the manga vegeta is 2-1 against black

Actually, it's 2-2
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>>154732399
>>154732982
>>154733443
soon
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>>154733651
>Thos doesnt proof anything

Damage control already? Ok, I'll take the W
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>>154733662
No its not black only beat vegeta once in the manga
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>>154733453
>Who cares
Nice job putting words in my mouth, toeishill. Toyotaro make a mistake, which is a shame, but not the end of the world. I wonder why you don't say the same to the anime.

>a CENTRAL PLOT POINT in a fight that COMPLETELY DESTROYED Vegeta
And nice job exaggerating a cooldown and a losing in a deportive tournament.
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>>154733619
you're not looking at the right place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKz9V_8FpKQ
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>>154733702
If it weren't for the head, I would've thought that was a Chun-Li figure.
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>>154733706
>When you used all your power last episode and you have no ki left

Same thing happened with the animators
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>>154733725
2

Black beat the shit out of Vegeta one time, Trunks gave him a senzu and lost again
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>>154733619
>>154733747
They are ningens that's why
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>>154733410
Nice lie, toeishill.
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>>154733719
>I'll take the W
> no argument
> youtube tier response
Discuss like an adult or fuck off to fb you underage dumbfuck.
Show me in the manga where black was surpressing himself in the fight against vegeta I am waiting. The only thing you showed me is that black used zenkai. Wow big fucking deal. The zenkai itself makes little sense since blacks jumps from ssj to ssgss
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>>154729157
Reminder that zamasu is a shit villain and only fags like you like him
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>>154733740
It may not have completely destroyed Vegeta, but it's definitely one of the big factors for his loss; and yes it IS central, because Goku overcame that problem with the use of SSG.

>Nice job putting words in my mouth
>>154733401
>>I know, so?
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>>154733500
>The guy has been making mistakes every two chapters
Oh come on anon, It's not funny when your lies are that obvious.
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>>154733784
Sorry forgot this
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>>154733804
>zamasu
>shit villain
Pick one
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Did we do it lads? Did we finally run these toyokeks off from this board ?
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>>154733489
Nice headcanon
>>154733504
Herms already translated the main points of the chapter, Toyotaro is fucking up
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>>154733843
>he thinks Zamasu is a good villain
top kek
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>>154733838
It must be nice to have your head filled with so much headcanon
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>>154733848
Both the anime and manga are shite.
Only difference is that manga is worth dicsussing
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>>154733756
>Same thing happened with the animators
Everytime.
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>>154732221
Doesn't he have his own, black gi?
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>>154733874
>he doesn't
Spotted the ningen
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>>154733905
>t. Toyoshill
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More "calm" Black

https://u.nya.is/kcmplb.mp4

https://u.nya.is/jgjfuy.mp4
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>>154733626
I didn't say that and Black wasn't smug when Vegeta raped his ass.
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>>154733443
My dick.
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>Full chapter isn't out
>"Main points"
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>>154733750
>If it weren't for the head, I would've thought that was a Chun-Li figure.
Chi Chi just can't compare with Chun in thighs
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>>154733298
Fuck man, why did the Goku Black model in Xenoverse have to be skinny?

Blue is skinnier than Base Goku too.
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Ok guys lets end this shit.
Wait for the fucking chapter to drop out with translation. If there is still no explanation to it then yes toyo fucked up until then shut your fucking mouths.
Also today is episode day so focus oj that
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>>154728107
>this much homophobia
Sounds like someone's a closet homolusting queer.
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>>154726073
Trunks should kill himself in the manga.

He's that worthless.
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Toyotaro is a very shit writer and his involvement in this franchise was a mistake. He continues to bring in fan fiction-tier shit and he fails in story and character development.
>he made fem!broly
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>>154733839
How come he didn't get a zenkai?
explain this toyocucks.
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>>154734026
This is the worst argument in this kind of discussion
>I hate gays
>That means you're one !
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>>154726847
The anime has meme.

Manga doesn't.

Anime>Manga.
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>>154732701
So will Goku be at 10% power against toppo since he justed used it against Bergamo or will the anime ignore it and make him use SSB kaioken x 20
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>>154733800
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579
>What I receive from Toriyama is literally words on paper, without drawings or anything. So when I'm reading it, I have to fill in the blanks as far as the specifics are concerned. I think of what kinds of expressions the characters wear, which way they're looking when they say a certain line. Many times, Toriyama-sensei doesn't give me specific feedback on the details that I fill in, so I put a lot of thought into those aspects, knowing that my interpretation is what the readers will see.

>I would love to have Toriyama just sit next to me so I could ask him questions all the time, but unfortunately, I can't!
Take into account this is the latest info we got from how the manga is developed
Seriously, Toyofags are in a laughable damage control
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>>154733937
But that's not an image of the ground
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>>154733506
>But that's what happened,

Only in your headcanon, you stupid fuck.
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>>154734034
>Toyotaro is a very shit writer
Yet still better than Toei, not like that's a hard thing to achieve.
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>>154734070
Anime doesnt have that rule
Manga only
How retarded are you?
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>>154732410
>Useful humans is wrong
>Implying surprise never worked in DB

How is crybaby black more menacing?
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>>154734071
HOW WILL TOYOKEKS EVEN RECOVER?
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>>154734054
Nah, it actually makes perfect sense, you're just really, really stupid.
>>
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579

>Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review, and then he'll give me input and suggest changes. When I'm working with Toriyama, there are many portions he gives me props for coming up with, but he is very particular about other things and always points them out for me to correct. And when he corrects me, I think “Wow, I guess I don't completely understand the way he looks at things,” so his corrections and feedback are incredibly accurate and helpful. It's a lot of fun to be able to get closer to his way of thinking
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>>154734071
Why is Toriyama a lazy piece of shit?
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>>154732448
This is what the manga miss.

An enjoyable black.
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>>154734034
Problem is not toyo but that toryiama is his editor. Toryiama himself doesnt know his own shit so he lets toyo pass a lot
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>>154734135
>defending a God tier threat getting stop by tear gas
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>154733827
>it's definitely one of the big factors for his loss
Yeah that's why I'm saying you are overacting because lose a match in a tournament isn't "destroy" Vegeta.

>Goku overcame that problem with the use of SSG.
That's wrong, though. Goku only use SSB once, he doesn't needed anything to overcame the cooldown, he use SSG to cheat Hit, force him to use all his power and then break the technique again by go stronger again with SSB.

>I know, so?
How "so?" means "I'm totally ignoring the thing"? I'm just not acting autist. It was inconsistent? Yeah, and that's not enough to go that sperg
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>>154732700
>Implying being a crybaby more and more often is better.
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>>154734155
It really doesn't.
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>>154734195
>Having a high power somehow means biological reactions don't affect you anymore
So Vegeta and co can't be drowned,suffocated,etc ?
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>>154734037
It's already explained in the chap, toeidog.
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>Superfags fighting each other again
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>>154734159
Toriyama is based and not a piece of shit
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>>154734034
It was no surprise that, he was just picked up as a Toei, Toriyama and now Dragon Ball room slavecuck. Puristsfags can take as "official" the details that happens in both anime and manga, while ignore the filler shit Toei and Cuckotaro adds
>>154734111
Nah, Toyotaro is worse than Philippine Toei in the writing aspect, he is a fan of the work but it's not creative when it comes to interesting ideas
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>>154734034
This.
Sorry, but the pacing in the manga and the story presentation is simply terrible.
If you enjoy it because you hate Toei's anime or because of the artwork that is fine, but don't come here pretending it is some perfect masterpiece for it is BS.
The fights are simply lackluster and no hype at all, Toyotaro cannot even begin to touch the talent of Toriyama's shadow.
They should just take some DNA samples of Toriyama to clone him at some point in the future.
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>>154732848
It's not the same retard.

We see more character doing more thing in the anime.

Beside kaioshin, only goku and vegeta are relevant.

Trunks being a bait is shit for a COMEBACK.
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>>154733875
>no argument
OK
>>
Cringy faggots really do need to leave.
I dont always aggree with muhammad but whej it comes to gay kafirs then yes they must be eradicated
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>>154728484
We didn't even get Fat Buu in te filler. Feels bad man.
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>>154732906
We like hin because is an actual character with believable motivations.
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>>154734210
this
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>>154733802
>Goku jumps from Ginyu tier to final form Freeza
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>>154734111
I agree with you, but it still doesn't change the fact the manga isn't really good.
It is worse than just bad, it is boring. Being better than the anime helps nothing.
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>>154734168
But Toyotaro has another editor besides of Toriyama, if Dragon Ball room gave a fuck about the manga then it would be weekly with a more consistent plot
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>>154734230
He barely fucking helps with the anime/manga
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I want proxyfags to leave.
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>>154734236
>Nah, Toyotaro is worse than Philippine Toei in the writing aspec
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You wish.
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>>154733925
>https://u.nya.is/kcmplb.mp4
While, in the manga..
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>>154734316
Exactly
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>>154734250
>Clone Toriyama
It'd just be a lazy fuck too.
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>>154733261
It was a good start, then went shit.

Black was appealing, he's not smug anymore now, just a COOL SAVAGE

Same for trunks, teasing his power (SSJ2>SSJ3) but still shit.
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>>154734302
Are you fuckijg stupid? He went from 90.000 to 3million frieza 50% was 60.000.000 ssj to ssgss is a whole other jump and complete fucking retarded
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>>154734281
>muh kamis
>lost a sparing match
>kill all ningens like a little bitch
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>>154732410
>tfw I could stop Black and Zamasu from killing Goku and friends with tear gas
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>>154734335
I would want to but its a fact, again the actual official plot are the details shared by both anime and manga. SSB+Kaioken are not canon, neither SSG Vegeta
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>>154734223
But anon, they're able to react faster than the speed of light. Technically they should have been able to throw the gas bombs to space and kill everyone who was around the perimeter faster than a blink of an eye.
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Wish they have an arc where 18 and the Humans would be relevant again.
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>Toriyama outline: Kibito and Shin defuse

>Toyotaro: Well, BoG arc is a good moment to introduce Champa as a misterious Beerus-like deity so I'll make Champa raid Beerus' universe (taking advantage of that Beerus is busy fighting) searching for the DBs with Vados. Then, Kibitoshin and the old Kaioshin discover they are talking about the "Wish Jewels" so they realize that they are talking about DBs and teleport to Namek to take them. Champa and Vados visit the Kaioshin in their planet so this will make the mistery more interesting (who is this god called Champa? Another Hakaishin? Fans will truly theorize!) and finally Kibitoshin use the DBs to defuse, which disperse the DBs around New Namek again

>Toei: Kibitoshin? Y-YEAH, I DIDN'T FORGOT IT..! Well... hum... Kibito and Shin just appear in Champa's tournament and say "we defused with namekian DBs lol"

Toyotaro is a very shit writer
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>>154733800
>Implying toriyama is a genius

Really?

Try to imagine DB without toriyama's editor.
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>>154732660
>>154732783
From Daizenshuu 7:


How did Kuririn and #18 get married?

"A lot happened in that seven-year period. #18 had never met someone like Kuririn, so honest and unsophisticated. You could say that she gradually came to fall for him. At least, in my head that's the sort of love story that I thought would do it. For Bulma and Vegeta too, I guess. However, I definitely wouldn't draw that in the manga. It'd just be embarrassing. I leave that kind of lovey-dovey stuff to my friend Masakazu Katsura ."

In other words, just what he did with Senbei and Midori.
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>>154734431
Its a story for children.
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>>154734302
> being this retarded
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>>154734362
>ssgss
I want the spics to leave.
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>Trunks survived, but how?

>Toyotaro: There's some useful characters overthere, you know. Based Shin and Gowasu use their time rings and teleport powers and they save Trunks and Mai from an insured death
>Toei: lol who cares he just did it now see this gag with future Yajirobe

Toyotaro is a very shit writer
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>>154733620
>what is being able to read Japanese
Get out you fucking idiot.
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>>154734460
Isn't SSGSS from the Funi dub?
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>>154734460
No argument paco
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>>154734468
>Trunks survived,but how?
>Toyotaro: Gowasu and Shin being useful
>Toei: Yajirobe, Mai and the resistance being useful
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>manga Black-Zamasu
>Black: Shit, a Kaioshin discovered our plan
>Zamasu: If they report to Zeno we are fucked, better end this shit and go to another planet
>Black: Yeah, time to go serious
>when Shin and Gowasu react all remaining humans are already dead

>anime Black-Zamasu
>a fucking year trying to destroy the humanity seriously
>dozens of humans still alive and not only in the city (see #8 and more humans living in mountains)
>defeated by gas
>they need to fuse each other and with the entire universe to finally kill all humans

Toyotaro is a very shit writer
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>>154734454
I know, Zenkai is the most retarded thing from Dragon Ball, Toriyama is a hack sometimes
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>>154734344
How did trunks went from this....
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>>154733410
He literally redraws things he doesn't like.
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>>154734496
And why are you following the funi dub? Even so, there's a new name for it you retard.
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>/a/ FULLY hates Toyo now
About time.
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>>154734210
I'm sorry you lack intelligence. There's no other reason someone would hate a group of people simply because they prefer a different set of genitals.
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>>154734071
How the fuck this contradict anything? This is embarrassing for you, toeishill.
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>>154734385
Leave anime Black and Zamasu to me!
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>>154734362
>ssj to ssgss is a whole other jump and complete fucking retarded

Then again, people are ok with Trunks going from SS2 tier to SSB?
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>>154734519
...to this?
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>it's another Toeishill/Toyocuck thread

I hope all of you die.
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>>154734515
>sometimes
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>Vegeta trains in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber
>somehow unlocks Super Saiyan God
>beats the shit out of Black by rapidly switching between SSG and SSB without Black noticing

Toyotoro's AF
>Vegeta trains in Dr. Briefs' time room
>somehow unlocks Legendary Super Saiyan
>beats the shit out of Xicor by rapidly switching between SS3, SS4, and LSS without Xicor noticing

I like the manga and the anime, but this is a blatant rehash from Toyo's AF, and just plain lazy desu
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>>154734470
Can you translate us the full chapter, please?
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>>154734600
>>154734519

Why did he even bother?
Teasing him for that?
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>>154734515
>I know, Zenkai in super is retarded, Toyotaro is a hack
Ftfy
> inb4 anime was more shit
>Unironically caring about the anime trash
Anon pls
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>>154734515
>Toriyama is a hack
Only ningens believe such thing
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>>154734563
Nah, there's just one or two autists shitposting in this thread
>>154734629
Don't fight it, anon. It will literally happen in every single thread now because Hackiyama wants to be a lazy piece of shit and let a mangaka and an anime production studio do the work for him.
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>>154734223
No but being (at least) above Namek-Goku means fucking clouds can't touch you because kiai so a tear gas cloud isn't a problem
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>There are people that haven't read Dr. Slump and don't know how Toriyama truly is
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>>154734600
He explains that even at full power he couldn't beat Black
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>>154734575
So I guess people who hate Christians are Christians themselves? There's no other reason someone would hate a group of people simply because they prefer a different god.
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>>154734575
stop spreading and creating diseases kthxs
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>>154734600
>Trunks survived against Black and Zamasu, but how?
>Toei: He overcame his limits and got a new transformation after trying to stay useful in fights but failing due to the power differences
>Toyotaro: lol who cares he just got destroyed; it's the Goku and Vegeta show remember?
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>gets asspull powerup
>to still loses
Top kek
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>>154734416
Character were already moving FTL in DB.
How is it an argument for you?
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>>154734637
>GT Krilin didn't become the new Turtle Master

Still mad about this
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Anime Gowasu:
>senile old dude who shows Zamasu a race of ningen that just confirms his prejudices and shows no redeeming characteristics that would motivate Zamasu to see ningen differently
>says that justice is balancing good and evil and tells Zamasu to accept evil in the world and brew him more tea

Manga Gowasu:
>is more willing to take notice of the fact that in a thousand years from the present, the babari develop writing and music. Zamasu just ignores these developments.
>Gowasu tries to point out to Zamasu how the Babari stopped fighting when their religious shaman showed up, confirming that Gowasu was right about the Babari actually progressing from a degenerate state of being to a higher and more spiritual one. Again, Zamasu doesn't see this or just ignores it.
>Gowasu tells Zamasu that he understands his desire for justice, but points out that a desire for justice in the world can easily become fastidiousness
>Rather than trying to convince Zamasu to tolerate evil in the universe because of something about balance, he tries to convince Zamasu that the path to peace is best achieved by developing a sense of tolerance and knowing how to rule with a gentle and forgiving hand
>He also tells Zamasu that he must learn his place in the divine order. Even if a race like the Babari prove to be a problem, it is the Gods of Destruction's job to pass the judgement on them, not the Kais.
>When Zamasu asks then why he's been given this great power if he's not allowed to use it to punish unworthy ningen, Gowasu states that he should see it as a test designed to help him to better himself morally.

tl;dr Manga Gowasu actually behaves more like a Supreme Kai who has the experience of millenia of doing his job and following the rules to positive results
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>>154734591
Stop comparing the manga to the anime
Manga is supposed to be te voice of reason.
Nobody gives a fuck about the anime clusterfuck.
Toyo fucking up is not good because he is the closest to toryiama's original story
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>>154734637
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>>154734718
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>>154734643
>missing the point this hard
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>>154734721
That actually supports my argument. The SECOND they hear a noise or see something being thrown at them should be enough time to completely understand the situation before it even happens

But nope, the anime is like
>see bomb being thrown
>keep watching till it happens
>oh no!!
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>>154734256
>Goku and Vegeta are relevant, people who saved Goku and Vegeta's ass aren't
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>>154734376

And the funny thing is those are legit traits of the character in both versions, except one can glue them together in a very compelling way and the other doesn't.

Manga black and zamasu are trash whose personality is only shown when it's necessary for the plot to advance.

>>154734513
Stale pasta again?
It's like you faggots don't understand this only makes it so no one wants to listen to any of your non-arguments.
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>>154734070
Probably ignore it because it is a retarded and lame rule Toyotaro probably included there because "muh logic and reason in a science fantasy setting". I don't know if that is worse than the anime with the random powerups(aka asspulls) for Future Trunks or not. WHY THE FUCK IS IT SO HARD FOR THEM TO MAKE A SIMPLE FIGHTING STORY WITH NO BULLSHIT OR TRYHARD STUFF IN IT? Maybe Toyotaro could actually accomplish it if he stopped adding unnecessary stuff like the Super Saiyan God forms. What does that accomplish for the enjoyment of the series? Absolutely nothing, but what can I say for the anime? STOP MAKING VEGETA JOB, TOEI. STOP MAKING GOHAN JOB. STOP MAKING PICCOLO JOB. STOP MAKING EVERYBODY JOB. I DON'T WANT TO SEE PEOPLE JUST JOBBING FOR SOME RANDOM POWERUP OR ZENO-SAMA TO SAVE THE DAY. I don't give a fuck when Bra will be born, I don't give a fuck about Kart racing, I want fights. GOOD FIGHTS. ALL I WANT. IS IT SO HARD? Fuck this series, it is the another side of GT's coin.
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>>154734468
Why even bother going to another timeline in the manga?

Why bringing trunks back here?

You can just drop trunks, mai and the other, just keep vegeta and goku then it's the same shit.
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>>154734600
just his real place in this arc.
Better question is why Trunks and Shin are still alive.
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>>154734694
Anyone who hates Christians simply because they are Christians is a fucking retard on par with the retardation of someone who hates someone else for liking a different set of genitals.

>>154734695
Please mature or kill yourself.
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>>154734661
>Vegeta was on par with first form Freeza
>Zenkai
>Still weaker than final form Freeza using 1%

>Goku can't beat Ginyu without Kaioken
>Zenkai
>Can fight against final form Freeza using 1%, without kaioken

>Not retarded
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>>154734513
>Thinking going to another planet will somehow help them to escape from zeno

Do you have a brain?
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>>154734637
Why do people assume Vegeta unlocked SSG in the Time Chamber?

Wouldn't it be logical to think he had it the entire time but never really needed it?
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>>154734563
>samefag is /a/ now

Not how it works but ok
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>>154734823
>Freeza using 1%
You do know that was a dub-only line, right?
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>>154734431
No need for that when one of the first teasers for the anime showed Champa. Surely Toyotaro knows makes better fanservice scenes for the fans than Toei (see Kibito and Zamasu sparring) but he is shit when it comes to explain his lackluster original ideas, just see >>154734637

>>154734578
It shows that Toriyama just checks the paneling sometimes, yet he doesn't check the filler Toyotaro adds to its version
It's a daily reminder that no, manga is neither a definitive version of the Dragon Ball Super project, if it were the main focus of Shueisha then it would run in WSJ instead of V Jump (a magazine that just serves to promote shit)
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>>154734600
That's what happen when you fight a SSB tier fighter in the logic version
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>>154734513

It's basically an excuse to kill all ningens.

For what purpose?

To make an emotionless ending with less involved characters.

Toyotaro is such coward who can't handle it.
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>>154734713
>Toei: He overcame his limits and got a new transformation after trying to stay useful in fights but failing due to the power differences

So "lol who cares he just got destroyed"
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>ctrl+F
>"/ourguy/"
>0 results
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>>154734907
Thank god
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>>154734763
That means "No"?
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>tfw if Toriyama wrote the Super manga it would be even worse
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>>154734823
> tryin to justify the jump from ssj to rose?
Wew lad. It would have been ok if he knew ssg but nope ssj straight up to rose.
Its literally like trunks ikari in the anime absolutely fucking pathetic
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Gentlemen, it's obvious.

Only the general events of Super are canon because of Toriyama's outline for arcs, as in the basic synopsis.

Toei and Toyotaro's versions are just interpretations of those events, we'll never get Toriyama's version because he doesn't give a fuck.
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>>154734932
>still missing the point and trying to save face
I accept your hilarious concession.
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>>154734689
So only goku and vegeta can get stronger then?

Why did he even lose pages to make trunks SSJ2 more powerful than goku SSJ3?

For what purpose?

In the anime, we see him at least getting motivated by Vegeta to surpass him and Goku without being a wasted scene.
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Anyone have that pic comparing Black's scythe to Bra from DBM?
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>>154734946
I think 90s Toriyama would have made a decent Super manga.
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>>154734873
Still retarded, anon

Vegeta couldn't do shit to Freeza, Goku was able to fight him before he used his 50%
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>>154734887
And the problem is present in the manga as well in the form of SSJ black defeating SSB vegeta.

Zenkai's don't justify a form that doesn't use god ki being capable of beating one that does.
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>>154734887
>Goku get literally asspul against beerus
>It's ok when Goku and Vegeta does it.
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>>154734637
>somehow unlocks Super Saiyan God
He was already SSG, are you stupid or something? SSB is SSG's Super Saiyan
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>>154734959
Too bad, I can't find the full chapter translated anywhere
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>>154734718
Geez, he's the only one who jobbed in the arc right?

At least he progress.
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>>154734949
>saying that Zenkai is a retarded concept
>"tryin to justify the jump from ssj to rose"

Anon are you ok
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>>154734713
>Toei: Asspull form but still loses like a bitch and you don't even see it
ftfy
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>>154734773
Did you even pay attention to DB?

A lot of scene shouldn't have happened in both version if we listen to you.

>How did yajirobe cut vegeta's tail.
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>>154735038
Not really he still failed in the end despite all the asspulls and Fairy Tail tier writing.
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>>154734950
And per default the anime version is the one considered "canon" since its material is used on merchandise and videogames
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>>154734802
>Why even bother going to another timeline in the manga?
To save Trunks..?

>Why bringing trunks back here?
Do you mean the Kaioshin planet? They are safe there, Black never searched for the U7 Kaioshin planet because Beerus was already dead.
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>>154735075
>comparing Yajirobe who trained with God to regular humans
Toei shills be reaching.
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>>154735075
>>How did yajirobe cut vegeta's tail.
Yajirobe is one of the strongest beings on Earth and being a Great Ape greatly reduces your speed.
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>>154735057
> not knowing how greentext works
You are fucking retarded and just for you imma explain It to you again.
Zenkai is retarded but not as retarded as in super. Black going from ssj to rose is like trunks going to ikari. Which both make absolutely no sense.
Toryiama zenkai were never this big of a multiplier.
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Based on the reception from a few other boards and social media:
This chapter has had mainly negative responses with most viewing Toyo as a hack.
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>>154735105
So you said that

>Trunks manga is better because he admit that he's a failure from the start

Don't worry, you got your trunks who don't give a shit about his own universe

>Caring more about gowasu than the remaining humans.

The ending was actually a great idea but badly handled in the anime, if only toyotaro was competent enough to handle it.
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>>154734845
To not be found, do you have a brain? If we talk about "escape" then there's no escape, do you think they must visit Zeno to drink tea or something?
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>>154735172
>The ending was actually a great idea
HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
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>>154735163
>This chapter has had mainly negative responses with most viewing Toyo as a hack.
The translations aren't even out. Everyone who is calling him a hack are literally autistic.
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>>154735121
I mean that trunks presence doesn't change shit in the manga.
Why didn't toyotaro just drop this arc just like he did with ROF?
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>>154735198

You have shit taste sorry.
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>>154735258
Doesn't mean much coming from you.
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>>154735215
>Gowasu is fucked up
>Trunks job against
>Kaioshin get fucked
>Goku and Vegeta save the day
>Trunks just watch
>Potala happen

What could happen between?
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>>154734725
t. Salagir
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>>154735215
Most of the translations were already leaked by translators. It's done, anon.
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>>154735315
There are still tons of pages missing.
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>>154734880
>one of the first teasers for the anime showed Champa so Kibito and Shin reintroduction can be forced as fuck
?

>Toyotaro knows makes better fanservice
What the fuck are you talking about? SS Asspull and SSB Kaiokek are Toei fanservice

>he's shit when it comes to explain his ideas, just see how he easily and clearly explain his ideas
???
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>>154735335
Not really. Most of the important ones were leaked.

Toyo is finished.
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>>154735262
We can't defend the animation, we never did but you seems to forget it.

Story is still more interesting and emotional in the anime, more involved character, better characterization of Trunks, better motivation...Etc
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>>154734907
you ruined it.
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>>154735368
Nah, I rather wait for the entire chapter to come out with official translations before I judge.
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toyotaro did nothing wrong, he'll make GT forms canon at this pace;
Super Saiyan 4 max natural potential saiyan Gohan and Xicor soon :^)
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>>154735392
Mangastream isn't official translations.
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>>154735369
In the anime, we feel more the fact that it's trunks's arc, to the beginning until the end.

Manga's beginning was promising but went shit when they arrive in trunks timeline.
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>>154735411
I'm not talking about niggerstream.
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>>154734991
>SS2 tier dude fighting and kicking a SSB tier one is present in the manga as well in the form of a SSB tier guy defeating a SSB tier one
how

>Zenkai's don't justify a form that doesn't use god ki being capable of beating one that does.
God ki isn't a insta-win button. You already forgot Freeza, Hit and Jiren?
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>>154735409
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This is the end of an era for a Toyokeks.

Soon these threads will be anime centric and we don't have to worry about autism from Toyokeks.
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>>154735172
It had a good concept but I also think it lacked proper execution, mostly by how rushed it was, if the final episodes had been at least three time their length and focused a bit more on the aftermath of their timeline being erased it would have been perfect.

Power of frienship sword asspull isn't really aggravating though, it gets subverted next episode when a powered up zamasu who got cut in half by said sword kills all of trunks' friends.
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>>154735436
Of course, we believe you.
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>>154735499
t. Toei
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>>154734111
>Yet still better than Toei, not like that's a hard thing to achieve.
SSB-Kaioken x10, I am still so fucking disappointed. None of the mistakes Toyo makes in the manga will ever can close to the disaster that was goku vs hit.
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>>154735504
This, i wished this have at least 3 episode to make this ending better.

This is why I hoped that toyotaro will do that, he gived me hope when we see trunks crying about his mother's death.

Seeing him be stronger than SSJ3 goku, it was great.

But then went shit when they arrive in his timeline.
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>>154734880
>Toriyama just checks the paneling sometimes
>he doesn't check the filler Toyotaro adds to its version
OK I'm being totally honest here, your reading comprehension is hilarious.
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From one contrived written overpowered character to another
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>>154724999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYRiRl5744w
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>>154735304
Anon please, Salagir doesn't care about Krilin

The only thing DBM krilin did was beat Salza

>Look, there's Krilin, and he did something! Anyway, let's go back to Vegetto and Bra
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>>154735467
>anime black and Zamasu is the closest we will get to Xicor and his mom
hold me bros
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>>154735499
Nah threads will be left empty. The manga was the only thing that kept me interesting I followed the anime because of memes but its horrible in quality.
Manga however is not doing so good I admit but I wait until the new chapter drops out to voice my opinion on it
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>>154735582
Anime Goku vs Hit was trash, no nostalgia bait can change that.
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>>154734037
Wasnt it explained that Goku and Vegeta can not get anymore boosts with Zenkai cause they reached their limit.
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>>154735629
>Implying manga black isn't XICOR
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>>154735369
I just love the QUALITY.
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>>154735613
Krillin was a Turtle Master in DBM.
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>>154735001
>Goku
>lore, new form, god power

>Trunks
>just stops a SSR Black's hit that was supposed to be received by SSB Goku... as SS2
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>>154735223
Do you know he will defeat Zamasu, right?

>like he did with RoF
Because RoF wasn't supposed to be part of DBS and he already did chapters based on the movie?
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>>154735613
>Babidi's emerging Multiverse army won't kill Vegetto and Bra.
why live
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>>154735681
Trunks is a fucking saiyan and human at the same time.

Did you forget it?

Why is gohan the only one allowed to get power-up in desperate situation?
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>>154735717
>those casual outfits
I want to see them again.
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well the Anime is better than the manga proof right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMri6c2SgUM
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>>154735409
Do you know that Xicor fanfiction isn't Toyotaro's, right toeishill? It was from a random dude in internet and Toyotaro only did the doujin, the drawings
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>>154735758
This chapter ruined the manga reputstion
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Huh, I don't know what's happening here

Anyway, drawfag here, I'm still working on the young Roshi and Baba I did some days ago

Is the anon who asked this still here?
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>>154735663
Then how come black is getting zenkais at all?

It's literally Goku's body at its physical peak.
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I can't wait till the full chapter is here so everyone can just shut up
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>>154735717
How?

By borrowing Goku's Genkidama?

Not a great achievement after being a bait.

Not epic after being threatless to black and zamasu through the entire arc.
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>>154735758
Funny how people switched side over one fucking chapter that isnt released and a leak mistake.
Fuck people seriously
I hate
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>>154735744
>Trunks is a fucking saiyan and human at the same time, so he can go from SS2 tier to SSR in seconds before Toei remember he's supposed to be shit compared to a SSB until he absorbs the spirit bomb
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>>154735758
The comment section is full of Toyocucks.
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>>154735825
It will get worse actually.
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>>154735806
Not him but looks great
Can you make a loli Gine after you end this one?
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>>154735676
But he's not relevant

That universe is pure shit

>Tien gave up against muh epic Buu
>Yamcha gave up because he wanted to fuck 18
>Krilin lost to fucking Tapion

Too bad, I wanted to see those three do something for once
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>>154735806
Well I don't know about that anon, but can you draw porn of young Baba? Thanks bby
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>>154735825
What will you do when you get proven wrong? Still suck on toyo's dick?
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>>154735848
It was just a moment, then he just fight zamasu.

It implies that the surprise element was a factor in this scene.
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>>154735780
>toriyama is such a hack he copies fanfiction like multiverse and AF
gross
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>>154735755
Toyotaro's art isn't only better but more logical
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>>154735889
>toei makes dozens of mistakes
>s-s-still better than toyo!!! haha toyocucks!!!

>toyo makes one mistake
>its over!!!!!! not our guy anymore haha!!!
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>>154735958
>Dozens of mistakes
Such as?
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>>154735876
Sure, I can try

>>154735883
Anon stop, that's too lewd
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>>154735958
> implying I am a toeifag
Stop
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>>154735958
>One mistake
>This meme

You guys shit on the anime at every fucking episode.


Why shouldn't the manga get the same treatment?
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>>154735936
Goku stop this, you're supposed to be retarded, not hot
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>>154735831
I'm pretty sure the Genki Dama stuff was from Toei (see how the energy sword in DB Fusions added right before the anime episode is just a big energy sword different looking from the anime one and without the part where it absorbs a Genki Dama - They probably knew an energy sword was coming from Toriyama's outline, but didn't know how exactly the anime would implement it).

Trunks will get an energy sword, but it won't be related to the Genki Dama.

Maybe it'll be an exclusive form that conveniently comes with the energy sword?

>Not epic after being threatless to black and zamasu through the entire arc.
That's how most big arc ending transformations in the original Z worked though. Goku was never anywhere close to matching Freeza before going SSJ and Gohan also didn't do anything to Cell before SSJ2.
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>>154735983
Come on, just an upskirt shot. She can wear panties, if you want. I would rather she not, though.
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>>154735936
Toyo's art is better than Toei but definetly not Toriyama.
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>>154735907
>It was just a moment
That's the problem, isn't some kind of power up at all, is just Toei being inconsistent as every week.

>then he just fight zamasu
And this is also crap because Zamasu fights SSB Goku as well, when his fight with SS2 Trunks and his previous fight with SS2 Goku makes clear that he's just SS2 tier in the anime.

>It implies that the surprise element was a factor in this scene
HAHAHAHAHA sure, dude. That's not a surprise works, read the manga if you want an actual surprising attack (I don't only mean DBS manga but the original manga too).
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>>154736006
>Why shouldn't the manga get the same treatment?
Because it's not nearly as bad as the anime?
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>Gets an asspull powerup
>Still loses
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>>154736085
>Implying that more boring arc=better
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>>154736070
>and his previous fight with SS2 Goku makes clear that he's just SS2 tier in the anime.
Goku immediately states that Future Zamasu feels on a completely different level from past Zamasu the first time he faces him. The inconsistency were the other scenes where he's shown on SSJ2 Trunks' level.
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>>154735831
>threatless to black and zamasu through the entire arc
I don't even want to search for the pics, just see this thread to watch how even SSA Trunks is SSR Black bitch. Toriyama's outline is Trunks being weak until he defeats Zamasu and not even filler asspulls can dodge that.
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>>154736141
>more boring
But it isn't
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>>154729157
Not in the manga.
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Did Toyotaro say how many pages we're getting this time.
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>>154736017
>no Genki-dama
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>>154736135
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>>154736172
>Toriyama=good writing

At least he wasn't a bystander but fight with goku and vegeta, he wasn't just a audience member waiting the final moment.

Beside being a bait, he's useless.
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>>154736223
Why do most GoD's completely lack muscle?
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>>154732981
>he likes donuts
Xenoverse 2 dub was a mistake
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Super is trash and will be remembered as gt 2.0
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>>154736171
So SS2 Trunks power still being bullshit then

also
>Zamasu only needs training for 17 years for go from SS2 tier to SSB tier
>needs Goku's body
That's bullshit too
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>>154736191
It is.

Gowasu is the only who seems to be involved in this arc.

Really make you think.
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>>154736308
You have the power to destroy galaxies with a finger

Why giving a fuck about training your body?
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>>154736342
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>>154735758
How can those who prefer the manga argue against him?

He's full of great argument.
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>>154736383
There are tons of really weak people with tons of muscle.

I agree that muscle and power doesn't really connect in Dragon Ball but I find it really odd that only one of the GoD's has muscle.
Toriyama used to love muscle back in the 90s
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>>154736289
>besides save Goku and Vegeta lifes several times, he's useless
Yeah no

Also he saved Goku traveling in time and Goku, Vegeta and Mai using the Solar flare, not just being a bait.
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>>154736420
Manga may have fucked up but the anime is so shit its not even up for debate.
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>>154734563
It's a samefag. Not only that he's incredibly autistic using childish dialogue like "cuck" or "pedro" or "kek"
Best treat him like a child. There was a poster doing just that and that got him to shut up for a bit
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>>154736420
>More dislike since the video was posted here >Butthurt toyofags.
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>>154736457
Don't bother Toei shills consider you worthless unless you're as strong as Goku and Vegeta not matter how helpful you've been.
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>>154736191
But it is.

There is nothing about the Black arc that is genuinely interesting in the manga.

Black and Zamasu in the manga are a joke, their actions are contrived, their motivations aren't believable and they're so detached from the main cast of heroes seeing them getting their ass beat is not nearly as good as it is in the anime.

Zamasu and Black in the anime feel like real characters who have their own motivations and traits aside from ones that are convenient to the plot.

They are more visceral against the main heroes, killing loved ones in front of them make all of their encounters feel more personal and engaging than they are in the manga.
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>>154736174
Anon, I am so proud of how hard you've worked. I might be running out of gold stars to give, you've been super duper good
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>>154736483
At least it's entertaining, has some great fight, more emotionals scenes; a more involved trunks, goku and vegeta.

Toyotaro has only a non-retarded goku for him right now.
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>>154736556
>Zamasu and Black in the anime feel like real characters
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>154736524
Aww look at this little boy trying to act all grown up. Have a chocolate bar, it might lighten your mood
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>this thread has 93 posters
sure it does
Proxyfags still need to leave
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>>154736516
>ONLY ONE GUYS CAN HATE THE MANGA
>BELIEVE ME.

>>154736555
Anyone can do this.
How does it make trunks appereance more meaningful?
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>>154736586
>Toyotaro has only a non-retarded goku for him right now.
>Champa vs beerus
Manga> anime
U6 arc
Manga> anime
Kaiokek makes no fucking sense and hit still being stronger neither
Trunks arc
Both are shite
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>>154736597
Well we see them more often, we see their backstory, how did it happen, they do more than just following their plans, are more connected to the mains characters...Etc
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>>154736651
Do you need a timeout? Being a bad boy is not acceptable
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>>154736651
>Anyone can do this.
And anyone can get beat up just like Trunks despite all his asspulls.
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>Bergamo getting his shit kicked by a SSJ
>suddenly almost reflects a SSBKKx10 kamehameha
Defend this, Toeishills.
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>>154736625
Please watch a video entirely before disliking it.
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>>154736556
>Black and Zamasu in the manga are a joke
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
A fucking shame they can't be defeated by tear gas huh toeishill?
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>>154736736
could take the hit because he was using gokus power to get stronger
>>
Only reason toeishills think toyo is done is because some mangachads are disappointed with this months chapter once the full translation comes out to clear this misconception up this will be a manga thread again
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>>154736707
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPzu61CmNFw

Sure, any character who aren't god can take Black and Zamasu both in the same time.
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>>154736780
That doesn't justify how he was able to take on a SSBKKx10 kamehameha.

That scene would have been fine if Goku went SSJ2 which should have been enough.
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>>154733298
he never did that in the manga another prrof that the manga is shit
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>>154736750
I will, little boy. Now go eat your lunch
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>>154736765
>>154736597
Oh man, someone is cherrypicking parts of my post, not adressing or even bringing up any counterargument.

how will I ever recover?
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>>154736826
it was just SSBKK, not SSBKKx10
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>>154736736
Goku wanted a more powerful fighter.

Didn't you get it?

>>154736765
They're careless against humans.
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>>154736869
Oh okay, completely forget about my complaints then because that makes much more sense.
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>>154736852
By going to your room. You've been very naughty on the internet
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>>154736826
It was only SSBKK, and Goku definitely wasn't trying to kill him.
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>>154736736
His energy can't be felt, has a special ability that absorbs energy and increases it

Suspension of disbelief = not broken.

try again.
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>>154736901
i'm not forgetting about your complaints, just correcting you on that aspect
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>>154736935
>>154736935
>>154736935
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>>154736805
>any character who aren't god can take Black and Zamasu both in the same time.
With Toei's shit writing yeah. I mean Future Mai survive several encounters with him. Also pic related
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>>154736788
> implying toyo didnt fuck up
Hahahaha. Toyo is a hack he forgot that trunks is goku ss3 tier and that black base was that as well. Vegeta beats black shit makes no sense but safe face next chapter by correcting himself by saying that black was just baiting for zenkai. This chapter he forgets again a lore that he made up during u6. His fans going to point it out again and will correct himself in the following chapter
/a/ goes full toyo is /our/ guy when in fact he is a hack
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>>154736851
>>154736907
>Literally no argument
>None
>Literally zero
How can one man be SO mad? Just accept that Toyo fucked up, it's not hard. Or at least present something that could pass as an argument.
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>>154736918
I still don't understand how Goku got pushed back in that form.
>>154736921
>His energy can't be felt, has a special ability that absorbs energy and increases it
That literally should not put him on par with anything involving God Ki. Bergamo during that beam battle should have been SSJ2 level at the most.
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>>154736962
He wasn't even trying against her retard.
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>>154737010
Nice damage control
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>>154736962
>I mean Future Mai survive several encounters with him
Plot armor?
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>>154736980
Not those guys but don't send a video to cover for an argument. Present it yourself or give a tl;dr
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>>154736967
>trunks is goku ss3 tier and that black base was that as well
Looks like you forgot Vegeta already surpassed SS3 Goku in BoG

I'm not disagree about current chapter, Toyo forgot SSB's cooldown, a shame. It's his first inconsistency, though.
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>>154730046
Dick status: MUH
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>>154734034
>he made fem!broly
>muh serious and manly shounen
>in before muh waifufags are ruining everything
and thats a bad thing because?
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>>154736420
His arguments are actually very weak imo.

I like the anime better but not for any of the reasons he brought up.
Mostly because the characters and the events are far more engaging than they are in the manga, the manga focuses too much of DBZ fight logic instead of the characters themselves.

His argument revolves around highlighting the differences/inconsistencies in powerscaling between versions as if that was the only element of the show one can enjoy (only if you're powerlevell retard maybe).

Problem with a lot of shitty powerscaling arguments is that they're beyond retarded when the series has never had realistic power escalation, in fact there are so many powerup devices in the show you could handwave any moment of a character growing exponentially in power as them doing some off-screen training .

We have a time dilation chamber that allows you to train in one year
We are supposed to believe frieza could train up to god level in 4 months.
We are supposed to believe black can use zenkais and bridge the gap between SSJ and Blue.

Arguments about illogical scaling are asinine and anyone who engages in them needs to kill themselves.
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>>154737309
Because Fem!Broly is hated.
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>>154737005
According to who?

Your interpretation is irrelevant, to begin with the true gap between SSJ and SSB is completely unknown, his power doubles the energy of every strike he receives and adds it to his own.

We don't know how much energy he is absorbing all we know is that it is doubling it and storing it for himself.

it simply becomes a problem of energy per second.

the amplified energy accumulated over time of a super saiyan can match the max output of SSB for an instant.
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>>154737366
Not to mention the power levels shit was brougth during Saiyan saga and Frieza saga then it was dropped in the beginning of the Android saga
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>>154725108
How did a furfag win? Did someone proxyfag this?
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>>154736191
>using an universally hated shitty lazy and boring transformation somehow makes an Arc good
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>>154736308
Have you noticed how SSJG makes the user thiner? That's what god ki makes to your body
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>>154737849
Yup, a bunch of furfags decided to proxy because they got fucking attached to some one-off fodder lol
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Has anyone else noticed that this tournament literally has exactly the same rules as Super Smash Brothers, an arena that is almost like Final Destination and a contestant that is literally Fox and Marth fused together into a single character?

One of the competing Universes is literally Universe 20XX and they're sending their most overpowered fighters combined for this kind of game.
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>>154738381
Doubtful, Smugpup seems to be popular around here for multiple reasons.
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>>154738438
i hope this arc gives us a Smash bros DBZ game
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>>154737217
But vegeta didnt fought black in base but in ssj. So him outclassing him so easily still doesnt make sense until chapter 20 was released and toyo saved face
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>>154738438
Well they're fucking serious and they've been training for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFT8ti5JIp41
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