Kumo Desu ga, Nani ka? 15-2

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Commando Kumo

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Mahou Kumo

>>154721124
Love her new knee socks legs.

Ok LN fags
Is this where it jumps the shark?

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7 deadly kumos

>>154721347
Nah, it's a bit after she finishes this zone.

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>>154721347
Also, the shark jumping really happens once she leaves the labyrinth. Not that bad ti

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Also, nobody TL's the LN so this is more based off what comes from the WN. The LN has better pacing.

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You think the next adaptation will involve an evil mc? Minus Overlord. We already have sort of a neutral mc here.

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>>154721124

>>154721456
>plain multiplier on prof and exp received
stupid spider should have got that before the monkey fight

>>154721986
Maybe appraisal wasn't high enough level to check the skill list yet or she didn't have enough skill points.

Do you think if I asked the spider for sex she'd say yes?

>>154722054
No, Shiro is pure.

>>154722085
Just a quick threadjob?

When is she going to become a demi-human? Gotta drop the mango until then.

>>154722054
she would faint and you could impregnate her while she is unconcious

>>154721235

stupid sexy spider

>>154722156
See you in 3 years, anon.

>>154722413
I wonder where I'll be in my 30s.

>>154721481
Talese more like neutral evil or law-full evil

>>154721124
reaction image goldmine

>>154721373
Would have thought she'd go for gluttony, or sloth.

>>154722661
Gluttony is taken, but she gets sloth later.

>>154721147
>praying to Appraisal-sama
All is as it should be.

>>154722661
I think the other seven sins and seven virtue skills cost like 5000-10 000, it's only pride that's this cheap. But it does give 2 levels of taboo.

>>154721407
I didn't have a problem with that, sure by that time she was pretty strong but compared to other characters in the world she was still mid tier at best. The shark jumping for me was when she did the underground facility thing. That's when she just stopped adventuring and the whole thing became a grand strategy novel.

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>>154722608
Talese works within the confines of the law, so he's somewhat lawful evil in that aspect. Ultimately, it's his selfish desire that inevitably makes him a neutral evil to which he is willing to sacrifice both law and anyone else if he has to. He is selfish, but has some conduct in his work.

is there a summary of what happens after she got all edgy? I lost interest at taboo 10

I also only read her chapters

>>154724309
No. Just read it. Or do you want a short summary?

>>154723962
i keep seeing this shit in these threads, the fuck is it called?
>inb4 google
fuck off

>>154725742
a short summary would be nice

unless that short summary is "go read it"

>>154721124
Shouldn't the side story chapters start soon? I wonder how they will handle them.

>>154725753
Ouroboros something something. Dont remember.
Check novelupdates for full name.

>>154725785
Taboo lv 10 gave her the knowledge of the current status of the world, how fucked up its current condition is, and how it will self destruct soon if someone doesn't do something.

Kumoko then goes on to try to get power as much as possible to save the world from self destructing or at least save the reincarnators

She then learns of her origin that she's actually not a human originally, but an actual spider in the classroom, got a fight with the current demon lord, gains the demon lord and the current world's administrator cooperation, achieved Godhood, and made a plan to stop the BBEG that fucks up the world in the first place.

You can say that the first part of the novel is how Kumoko survive in the harsh world, and the second part is after Godhood, where she now moves in the shadow making plans and keikakuing like some kind of cute white batman

>>154724309
There is no outside summary, but she gets better. read the demon king side chapters.

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>>154725935
>she's not actually a human girl

that's disappointing

guess it's not dungeon survival for long huh

>>154725950
like I said, I skipped all the side chapters because I wasn't really interested in them

anyway thanks, I'll read them if I have free time

>>154726005
Wanna hear her origin story?
So, the BBEG wants to achieve Godhood, manipulated the previous Demon lord and Hero at the time to direct their attack to the God that administrates their world. That God is currently living as a JK, and that attack destroys the classroom where she was attending.

The God is fine, but feels bad for her classmates and teacher that got killed, so she reincarnates all of them to the other world where the BBEG is. She then realize 1 more soul, which belongs to a spider in the corner of the classroom. The God then also reincarnates the spider, injecting the God's memory as a JK, and thus Kumoko is born.

>>154726105
I have no idea what those abbreviations mean anon

>>154726128
Sorry, I thought those are common knowledge around here. At least you know what JK means right?

BBEG is Big Bad Evil Guy. It's a commonly used abbreviations in /tg/.

>>154726176
no I do not

>>154726105
You make D sound too benevolent. She tricked the spider into thinking she was a JK to be her decoy so she could fuck off and NEET out a while longer while her subordinates were fooled by her ruse.

>>154726235
>lurking /a/
>doesn't know what JK is
>>>out

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>>154726269
yeah I don't come here much if you can't tell

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>>154726289

>>154726005
>like I said, I skipped all the side chapters because I wasn't really interested in them
They're not side chapters. Fucking hell. You're not supposed to skip those. You have to read them

>>154726005
You're not supposed to skip those. Those are not side chapters. They are important part of the Storytelling, Once you get to a certain parts they reveal a huge plot twist

>>154724309
wasn't she only depressed for like, 3 chapters? 'edgy' has completely lost its meaning

>>154721124
Kumo a cute.

>>154721473
Much thanks.

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Mahou Shojo Arachni

>>154727156
This panel better lead into Maou Shoujo..

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>>154721301
is that a ghost buster reference?

>>154721347
>Is this where it jumps the shark?

Damn
I was hoping it wouldn't

But, from getting Pride and all its' god-stuff, I'm guessing she leads some sort of unholy war against the system admin?

>>154726311
Fucking knife ears, is that an original character?

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>>154727273
>all this LN talk about how it jumps the shark and stops being about spider dungeon crawling

What a shame. I'm really enjoying this manga, even if the menu system is kind of clunky.

>>154727332
Probably Potty

>>154726247
She was not happy about finding out her entire existence was a cruel joke to allow a shitty goddess to skive off actually doing her job for a few weeks.

>>154727535
There's still a while to go. I'm probably going to drop it for a while after she changes form, too, and pick it up again for a bulk read. I prefer cute spooder to stay full spooder.

>>154721124
Truly a great character design. I was slightly disappointed with the last one, but the mangaka's on point again.

I'm glad that she tried to humanize Natsume, but it felt more like an excuse than character development. I also felt like the title implied Shun talking to Sariel, so I felt let down the chapter wasn't about that./spoiler]

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stupid sexy spider, wearing stockings and long gloves at the same time on each arm

I don't know what you all have against the "shark jump" the series is a comedy through and through and I don't think what happens later takes away from how funny the series consistently manages to be.

I think the main reason people stopped reading there was because of the large streak of chapters from other characters perspectives that were admittedly not as funny but were necessary to make sure the story could still move forward without falling into the stagnation trap that most of these stories end up in.

That said, the newer chapters from those other perspectives are now much more consistently entertaining mostly due to the dramatic irony of our mostly mute but very opinionated Kumoko.

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>>154727847
>even her magical girl avatar evolved

>>154727901
>she took her top off in the evolved form
lewd.

>>154727864
Peronally, I just dislike how many jumps to other characters happen, it's all very fascinating but I care about Shiro, not chapters and chapters of bloody side characters.

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>>154727864
Coming from someone who loves the changes in the narrative after she turns into a god I can see why most people would be ancy with it.

First, the story feels a bit aimless after the introduction of Sophia. it takes quite a few chapters to connect with her, and during that time the reader is wondering 'when do I get back to that giant cliff'. It takes a very long time to reach Elf Village again, and that impatience might make the chapters seem less fun (personally, I wanted at least 50 or more chapters than we got dealing with Sophia's relationship to Shiro before the war, but hopefully that's alleviated in the LN). Shiro's voice being largely absent for a while doesn't help either, because she is the best source of comedy for the series.

Second, there are far too many people who skip the side chapters because the main chapters seem better. If you don't have the side chapters, then you never realize how well crafted the series are and don't get excited for the reveals.

Lastly, there is far less action in the second half compared to the first. While Oni vs Oni is the best battle in the series, battles do not happen nearly as frequently as they did in the dungeon, and may of the battles are just there to illustrate how powerful Shiro's side is. I'm really looking forward to what happens now that Sue has Greed. Will she be able to steal Shiro's god power?

>>154727941
I agree that everything between the Elf Village Battle and Oni vs Oni is a massive slog, but it did need to happen to set the stage for the next part of the story without devolving into mindless fluff.

And after that it does go back to the same old antics of our Friendly Neibourhood Spidergirl that we all know and love. The one thing that I do really miss from the early dungeon days though is all the weird inside jokes that she had with her own skills and the multiple personality thing though because they were all great. Praise Appraisal-sama!

>>154727563
Potty's clone most likely, but I don't remember him seeing arachne.

>>154727208
Totally. Good call. Same stupid blank look + O face.

>>154722759
Cost changes from person to person though. Who knows if pride would have been cheap for anyone else. After all She got to buy skills before anyone else

>>154727273
>>154727535
I don't feel that it jumps the shark but it does take a sudden veer in tone/goals.

Here's my advice to take the change well. Right now it's a weird spider dungeon crawler with gamer skills right? That makes no sense. We both know gamer skills don't make sense. We also know in many stories we just need to suspend disbelief about this and move on. Don't suspend disbelieve. Why on earth are there gamer skills? What's this system? What's really going on?

Enjoy the story as it goes on but ask yourself those questions. If you do that it shouldn't feel shark jumpy.

As for spider dungeon crawling. Once she gets strong enough there's a limit to how long the story could stay that way if there's powerlevels and leveling up. Eventually she'd either become/usurp "last boss" or the story would have to go in a different direction.

>>154727707
Well she monologues internally then externally says only a single sentence. To the confusion and aggravation of others.

I'm personally really hoping that during all her internal monologues (way later in the story) she does it in spider form.


>>154727864
I'm inclined to agree with you and I'm unsure where the shark jump is in other's minds. I feel like the character jumps are a bigger deal. They actually explain what's going on which is rare for a story line this. As I said above in the spoiler section, I think the later parts of the story can transfer very well to a manga format.

>>154728321
Honestly if the mangaka decides to keep drawing her in cute spooder form most of the time, whether it's just inner monologue or otherwise, I might not drop it. Spooder for life.

>>154726311
God damn it, those spider eyes are creepy

I want to be fucked by it

>>154721260
>god
Being D?

>>154721433
>now Ive done it!
>IM DONE FOR GOOD
anime when?

At least the author is massively extending the amount of time she's an Arachne in the LN.

Though that begs the question of when she's going to ascend then. She's in god form during the battle at the elf village still so she has to do it before that.

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>>154728206
>Don't suspend disbelief. Why on earth are there gamer skills? What's this system? What's really going on?
>Don't suspend disbelief

Well damn, that's what I've been doing the entire time. To be honest I've only read about two or three other Isekai but I figured skill systems were inherent to most of them.

>>154729486
To be honest there's still no really good reason for the entire thing to operate like a stereotypical RPG other than a certain evil god's personal preference.

ELF GENOCIDE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE

>>154729804
>no more elf waifus
What a sad world to live in.

>>154729804
it's not genocide if they're not human

>>154729858
>no more extra crispy elf babies
That's even worse

>>154729858
Kumo just has to run breeding programs with sensei to bring back the elf race, this time under her control.

>>154729804
Potimas was best boy and should have won.

>>154730618
RIP great granddaddy.

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>>154729956

>>154729969
>>154729956
>>154730785
Elves >>>>>>> power gap >>>>>>>> humans

>>154729486
Sometimes it's just a dude who's got more magic power than god or just former knowledge. It's not always menus

Like... the one with the fat neet who dies and comes back to seduce big-boobed prepubescent girls
The one with the doctor who reincarnates in no-medicine times as someone who can create any material he knows the molecular composition of

But I'd say menus abound

Overlord is basically "Guy inhabits his DnD character", but menus still exist because DnD was an MMO

>>154730825
Human skeletons vs elf skeletons
Who wins?

>>154730994
>Overlord S2 announced
>meanwhile still no Kumo anime
Why?

Does she end up as an anthromorphic spider milf

>>154731148
>milf
Technically.

>>154731046
Because Overlord is the better series.

>>154731148
She has babies if that's what you mean. Virgin births so she's still pure.

>>154731046
Kumo doesn't have enough material out 'formally' in the form of LNs.

>>154728089
In my opinion the hero story felt like a joke dragged for too long. I mean we have the adventures of Kumoko as she slaps the shit out of dragons and monsters of the unknown and then suddenly we have to read about shitty some sort of shitty, insipid "main character" and his equally shitty harem that are only there to look cute and, like, that's it. Heck I was rooting for that student (?) that turns evil and tried to fight the elf teacher before she slaps his shit with her eye powers. That's how big the gap between the main and the hero story are when it comes to enjoyment.

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>>154732148
Shun is supposed to be insufferable, I'm pretty sure.
>STILL doesn't tap this duchess ass

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>>154730994
>>154730994
>Sometimes it's just a dude who's got more magic power than god or just former knowledge
I think this is why I usually don't find Isekai too appealing.

But one of my favorite ones was the one that was technically every Isekai rolled into one and every hero had access to the online help forum. I really liked how self aware the series was and I was kind of bummed out that the manga ended so abruptly.

>>154731046
Because Climb needs to be on TV

I guess
For some reason
Besides your god hating you

I hope they speed through lizards

>>154731046
How would they even make a Kumo adaptation? 12 episodes of a spider walking around in a cave with no dialogue at all would be a very strange anime.

>>154732284
>>154732148
The joke is that Shun is your typical beta-ass isekai hero with a harem and total moralfag outlook.

The punchline is that he eventually gets totally BTFO by Kumo but some may feel the windup was too long for it to be worth it.

>>154732537
It would just be shittonnes of voiceover. But I feel like the speed that the lines get read out would kill the pacing of the comedy.

>>154732537
She talks to herself. Ain't that enough?

If they really need to sell merch they can whore out Katia and D.

>>154732594
He's about to get his shit pushed insix ways to Sunday by Sue.
Duchess will content herself with the Babies laying eggs in her.

>>154732639
The Sue development was totally out of nowhere. What can she even do at this point? She can only wreck Shun's shit if the OP part of the cast lets her.

>>154732686
>totally out of nowhere
Sue has always been portrayed as an utterly ridiculous genius who would've easily ruled the fucking world if the Reincarnators and Admins weren't a thing. Even her name's a play on a Sue-type character.

>what can she even do
She has Greed. Do we know what Greed even does? And while someone like Shiro is probably not going to get btfo by it all we might be switching persepctives or something. Or who knows, maybe Sue is going to become a god.

>>154732850
Didn't spider brain used to have greed? Or was that envy?

To novelfags, is the Taboo shit explained yet?

Has Shun and Shiro met yet in the main story? I haven't kept up for a few months.

>>154732921
Long, long ago.

>>154732894
>spider brain
Who now?
No, Sue has Greed.

>>154732921
>to novelfags
WN or LN? I dunno about the LN but we're far fucking past that in the WN

>>154721456
>Kumo won't ever cast lust hell on you

>>154732921
Taboo just dumps "the truth of the world" into your brain.

Which is, the world is fucked because Shinra pumped the lifestream dry in the distant past and caused the planet to rot away which is why the gods put the System in place to forcibly reincarnate people on the same world over and over to collect energy from their souls to rehabilitate the planet but it's not working and the world is on the brink of dying again because the shithead god in charge is a terrible sysadmin. Also some miscellaneous info about how the system and gods work I guess.

So will Kumo get detection? What does she need to be able to use it, more INT?

>>154733492
Heresy immunity, I think it's called.

>>154733560
Last question then: I think I'm finally convinced to read the novel, should I read the WN or the LN? I imagine the LN is better but I could be wrong, how many chapters out for them, and if possible where can I get it?

>>154733627
Unless you know Japanese the LN is a no go, nobody is translating it.

It does diverge somewhat sharply from the WN in the latest novel, probably for the better. It also consistently whitewashes Kumo and retcons her more morally grey actions though.

>>154733627
The LN isn't translated, and you'd have to buy it from Japan if you want to read it. Just check novelupdates to find links to the WN TL.

>>154733682
>>154733685

Thank you.

>>154732392
I love 4chan isekai

>>154733767
I don't get the appeal, it's profoundly boring for me.

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>It's gonna take 500 years until she turns into a real Spider-Girl/God

>>154733953
>we will never get to see her (literally) eat out Sophia

>>154731046
Because myth&roid can make only so many albums for isekai OP/EDs

>>154733682
>It also consistently whitewashes Kumo
R-reeeeee

>>154732850
Greed is probably the most hax power if someone smart was using it. I bet there are tons of skills out there not available to humans that can be stolen through greed (think Dragon Barrier or Shiro's Corrosion Attack). Also, since Greed is meant to screw with gods, I have a feeling Sue will kill one of Shiro's surveillance spiders and steal some of her power.

>>154735433
All of the skills are ridiculously hax
Also when the fuck will duchess-chan get reamed by Shun? Will he ever stop being beta?

>>154721347
No the WN jumps the shark, the LN fixes that.
she doesn't go god mode and is still an arachne

>>154731046
Not enough novels out yet to make it worthwhile, maybe next year.

>Natsume's story ends as "tis all a dream"
wew

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>>154733810
The message board concept is pretty interesting and each story/thread has a little twist to it.

But if you can't stand the art or aren't prepared to read chapters full of thread text then the manga can be a slog to read through.

>>154735785
It's not the art nor the amount of text, it's just that most of the text is boring dribble.

I mean I don't want to knock it too hard since you like it just fine, it's just my personal opinion.

>>154735985
>it's just that most of the text is boring dribble
That's fair, I almost dropped it in the middle of the first chapter because the conversation was boring me out of my mind.

>>154735785
wtf is this
Are they literally shitposting on 2ch for isekai-jin?

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>>154725753
Ouroboros Record.

>>154736307
What else would you do on a 2ch for isekai-jin?

>>154732392
This aspect is where Chinese novel surpassed Japanese novels by a lot. When we read Chinese novel you actually feel there's a power Gap and progression of power

>>154738426
From chinese, I think I read just two, Release that witch and Sovereign of three realms.

They're better than normal isekais since norpg, but they have their own repeated flaws.
RTW has magic tools like quantum cutter and superpaint appearing in all too convenient moments.
SOTR's biggest problem for the 400 or so translated chapters is that it's endless string of {>who is this nobody that messes with my plans; >a worm two tiers below me will be easily trampled; >HOWEVER; >word comes to defeated's superior; >repeat}

>>154739036
It wasn't too convenient. Both were just advancements of there already existing powers..

All of their powers are actually based on their perception of the world and how they view it.

>>154738426
Don't you have a chink thread to shill in?

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>>154739136
>chink thread
Those exist?

>>154738426
You mean going god mode in even less time the the jap ones? wew.

>>154721355
>unidentifiable variables
Mystery hax, yas. The bit about Detection was a nice reversal too, even if it never came up until now.

>>154738426

Meh. Power progression is boring as shit when it's just shouted ability names and flowery titles.

Chinese novels do way too much "telling" and not nearly enough "showing". Most of the time when the MC overcomes an obstacle or rival it's because hurr his cultivation increased by leaps and bounds due to a combination of his hard working character and the cheat object he has access too.

The power progression feels super empty because there's literally no tension to anything and the author usually loudly announces what's going to happen before it does.

>>154739985
>You mean going god mode in even less time the the jap ones? wew.
No.
It almost always takes longer. Unlike Japs who were God mode from the very beginning or some kind of stupid retarded cheat for no apparent reason

>>154740551
I disagree with your opinion though. I feel the opposite.
Then again it also depends on what type of Chinese novel. The type i like reading is good ones related to magic and the likes instead of pure martial arts

>>154741395
Man, they just keep going god mode at a different tier.

>start as trash
>become a cultivator
>God mode at first tier, can fight people in second tier
>advance to second tier
>Godmode second tier
>advance to third tier

And then it just goes on until they're at the top of the food chain.

>>154741944
>>154741395
Depends on the story

Overlord has him inhabiting an end-game plus years-of-grindan MMO character in a low level area
He's godmode compared to the level 10 area he's in, but his fight with Shalltear wasn't a curbstomp (other than PREP-TIME planning)

Spider becomes godmode, but she was a small fry