Dragon Ball Super

>no Black vs Goku in the manga
>instead we get Black vs Vegeta THREE TIMES

Is that Lava Vegetto?

>>154698895
Mangacucks will defend this.

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>>154698864

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>>154698912
Stop posting that

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>>154698951
Reminder this anon forgot this
https://u.nya.is/ehxitj.mp4

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>>154698951
delet this

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>>154698864
>>154698912

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>>154698895
> Trunks doesn't join Goku to fight Zamasu/Black
> Goku and Vegeta return to Trunks and Shin about to kick the bucket
> Trunks doesn't use Mafuba. Goku does.
> Trunks doesn't have SS Ikari

Why is Trunks so worthless in the manga?

So plot summary of the new chapter?
When's the translation out?

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>>154699036
>He started posting it again
YAMEROOOOOOOO

>>154698951
Anime black:
>Classy zamasu but affected by his saiyans genes making him craving for power without going full retard

Manga black:
>CRAWLING IN MY SKIN

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>>154699011
>y-y-you're just an appetizer

>>154698971
Motherfucker looks like Lupin

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>>154699076
>>154698994
Hi.

>>154699011
>One page of smug goku
>Become only edgy after

Does toyotaro make black's arc that shit in purpose?

>>154699036
Toei

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>>154699083
>CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
mmm

>Toyotaro will fix the mafuba they said

So now we know it was a gag Toriyama wanted and was in the outline

>B-BUT EVERYTHING I DON'T LIKE IS TOEI

Is the entire chapter not out yet? Not even scans?

>>154699060
>B-b-but trunks is a good bait
>He watch and comment very well

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>>154698864
>>154698912
>>154699036

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I like how from the leaked scans there is no hype to Merged Zamasu's birth, it just kind of happens

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>>154699060
He helped Goku and Vegeta return safely to the past, just because he isn't powered by asspulls like anime doesn't mean he's worthless. Plus ths arc isn't over yet.

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>https://youtu.be/Zv1sBwFyCh0
Can someone explain how Goku Black knew who Vegeta was?

He never met him prior to this.

>implying Jobgitcuck will be in the manga

>>154699076
Anime is better, story is still shit, QUALITY but at least it give memes, ost and some scene are enjoyable.

Manga has nothing and story is still shit.

>>154699219
When all fails just excuse it on GodTube.

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That's it. Im getting sick and tired of DBS' inconsistency.
Dragon Ball and DBZ was consistent as fuck. There was never a plothole at all.

But in Super there is a huge one, and by huge I mean HUGE.

Everyone saw the last Tournament between U6 and U7. Including Zeno.
That tournament was dominated by U7 fighters, they DID WON.
Not to mention Beerus is way stronger than Champa.
So you can't say "ningens lost, but the Hakaishin is stronger".

Now how the fuck is Universe 6 is superior to Universe 7???

> If you would say it's TOei's fault, I 'd believe that!

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>>154698912
>>154698864
>>154699036
>>154699184

>>154699065
- Vegeta uses SSG (not SSB) to fight SSR Black. Is winning easily.

- Vegeta uses SSG and SSB one after the other to increase efficiency (Toyo forgot Chapter 13)

- Goku remembers the Mafuba Seal, but confuses it with a pervy gift card

- Goku uses Mafuba (not Trunks/Mai). Fails.

- Fusion Zamasu appears

>>154699244
I like how this keeps getting longer and longer
One day it will become a full copypasta, keep it up anon

>>154699240
But in the anime wasn't Gowasu watching Godtube? Not Zamasu like the manga.

>>154699219
Zamasu asked Zuno to tell him everything about Goku.

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Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister

When will Goku die?

>>154699207
>Arc isn't over
>As if goku will not do Genkidama seems toyotaro has only consistency
>Trunk will borrow a genkidama that any shit tier character can do
>Somehow that make him a worthy warrior

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>be me
>tired of toei's shit with the anime
>recommended the manga by some anons
>said to be several times better than the anime
>signmethefuckup.jpg
>gets around to reading it
>it's even worse than the anime
>rushed story
>shit choreography in fights
>too many "homages" to the old manga because the artist is a hack who lacks creativity
>bland characters

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>>154699060
>anime Trunks had bad Fairy Tail tier writing backing him up and he still failed.

>>154699207
> He did one thing almost anyone else could do
> Not worthless

>>154699289
But how would he know what Vegeta looks like

>>154699277
perhaps he rewatched some of Vegeta's fight after he caught interest when watching it with Gowasu. Anime is full of inconsistencies you gotta fill in the blank yourself.

>>154699207
You said a lot of times that arc isn't over and IT'S STILL SHIT.

>>154699350
Zuno specified that he was a manlet with a fivehead.

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Does Loli Angel have a name yet?

>>154699315
FOR FUCKS SAKE STOP THIS SHIT
EVERY SINGLE GODAMN THREAD

>>154699339
>Toyotaro somehow manage to make trunks boring and as worthy as an ants.

>>154699348
>almost anyone else could do
What did Toei Trunks do? Apart from getting an asspull power up and still get reked?

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>>154699267
>Vegeta uses SSG and SSB one after the other to increase efficiency (Toyo forgot Chapter 13)

So no more punishment for using SSB in succession?

> Goku remembers the Mafuba Seal, but confuses it with a pervy gift card

...

>assblasted toeishills' shitposting

Every fucking month, every fucking chapter.

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Reminder.

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Reminder

>>154699267
>>154699441
>So no more punishment for using SSB in succession?
Who's to say that Vegeta didn't master SSB in the Time Chamber he was just in?

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look how great Mary sure Trunks is

>>154699503
Then why the FUCK would he switch between SSG and SSB, you fucking retard? He'd just keep SSB active all the time.

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>>154699441
yeah turns out the mafuba being a gag was something Toriyama wanted and not muh Toei

>>154699439
Fight for everyone's life, be a hero, try to interact with other character, show more emotion.

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>>154699489
>that cringe post

>>154699503
Then what good is SSG?

>>154699439
Fight against Future Zamasu.
Fought Black alongside SSB Goku.
Used the Mafuba.
Used SS Ikari to hold off Black/Zamasu while Goku/Vegeta return to the past.

Manga!Trunks hadn't done shit.

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>>154699533
Mary sue*

So suddenly /a/ now loves all the asspulls Trunks had in the anime? Despite you all constantly calling him Mary Sue, now you love it and the manga now sucks for not having it?

hahaha you fucking hypocritical sheep

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>>154699533

>>154699445
Because it's shit, what to expect?

Mangacucks will literally eat toyotaro's shit as long as it's coherent and canon.

>>154699439
Kill the love shack.

>>154699503
Did you just make that up right now?

>>154699582
People only started calling Trunks a mary sue when he killed Fusion Zamasu.

>>154699535
>>154699557
Perhaps SSB drains tons of stamina which is why he uses it the second he attacks.

It would be like SSJ2 Goku using SSJ3 for his attacks.

>>154699489
>Proud of showing a reddit-tier pic

And I prefer the manga, please go be a toeishills instead.

>>154699636
>It would be like SSJ2 Goku using SSJ3 for his attacks.
This never happened.

>>154699636
Which Goku doesn't do, because merely activating SS3 fucks him up real good. Should be the same case here, but it's not.

>>154699533
Even if it's mary sue i'do rather him Doing something at least than being a fucking worthless sideline character

http://vocaroo.com/i/s01CxOSfdHDN
can /a/ rate my tribute to gt you guys where to caught up arguing yesterday

>>154699631
That's a lie, it started with SSRage, then him mastering the Mafuba in mere minutes

>>154699533
His fight against zamasu and black close to their niggen-tier house was great and well animated though.

Keep being a mangacuck if you want.

>>154699668
>because merely activating SS3
Well maybe Vegeta can activate it whenever without consequences anymore but it drains stamina quick so he can't use it for long.

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Manga vs Anime Trunks

Useless Trunks or Mary Sue Trunks?

>>154699698
Your headcanon, then?

>>154699760
Hence why I said "maybe" At least i'm not stating shit when the chapter isn't even out yet.

>>154699722
>Manga vs Anime
Anime.

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I like both anime and manga and Super in general

>>154699722
I'd rather have more characters being relevant even if the execution is a bit sloppy rather than it continuing being the Goku and Vegeta show, so Mary Sue Trunks easy.

>>154699441
>>154699535
>>154699557
all this retarded faggots complaining over a few leaks without translations and not waiting for the full chapter to be released

>>154699722
They should just rename the "Future Trunks arc" to "Vegeta in the Future arc" because Trunks is as useful as Buu was during the Champa Arc

>>154699582
Mangacucks were the one calling him this way because they weren't happy seeing other saiyan being more powerful than Goku and Vegeta.

Also, rather having a Mary Sue than a worthless character.

Wait a minute where are those anime fucks coming from?

>>154699794
Fuck off.

>>154699815
Toei headquarters

What happened to the mangacucks??? They were so active shitposting yesterday,but now after the leaks they are all quite

>>154699577
>Fight against Future Zamasu.
Happen in the manga too.

>Fought Black alongside SSB Goku.
He lost anyway, besides everyone can do that with Toei's bad writing
>Used the Mafuba.
More bad writing and he still failed
>Used SS Ikari to hold off Black/Zamasu while Goku/Vegeta return to the past.
And? Black and Zamasu got stopped by tears gas everyone could that, besides apparently Black and Zamasu let Trunks go free because next time we see him he's resting bed.

Anime!Future Trunks x U16 Bra is my OTP.

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>>154699794

>>154699675
kys/10

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>>154699833
>they are all quite
>quite
(you) (you) (you)

>>154699441
>Goku remembers the Mafuba Seal, but confuses it with a pervy gift card
I'm certain Toriyama's outline just said something like 'Goku forgets the mafuba's seal', and Toei and Toyotaro did their versions of it. Isn't it funny how Mangafags keep claiming Toei is turning Goku into a retard and then keep mum whenever the same developments occur in the manga?

>>154699722
Trunks doing things > Trunks as an audience member

>>154699722
>Mary Sue Trunks
He did jack shit. The mission was a failure and his universe was deleted. Aren't Mary Sues perfect winners who always save the day?

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>>154699845
I'm already drawing porn of it

I bet those retarded people working at Toei already have forgotten the rule they set up themselves.
Goku using SSB and Kaioken again against Bergamo is as stupid as they can get.

>>154699829

Kek but what happened? They weren't there a week ago or did I miss something?

>>154699722
What is better?

Vegeta and Goku's arc or Trunks giving everything he has to save the remaining humans's arc?

Personally, I've seen enough of Goku and Vegeta's cock.

God I can't wait for Trunks to take out Zamasu so these desperate Toei shills can stop reaching.

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>Toriyama keeps wanking normal Super Saiyan
>Toyotaro and Toei keep wanking Super Saiyan 2
>Toei keeps wanking Kaioken
>Toyotaro keeps wanking Super Saiyan God
>Super Saiyan Blue is the strongest transformation

WHERE

THE FUCK

IS THE LOVE FOR SUPER SAIYAN 3

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>>154699910
>They weren't there a week ago or did I miss something?
Because there was no episode to shill last week

The Super anime is not canon or do you also think GT is canon?

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>>154699928
>God I can't wait for Trunks to take out Zamasu so these desperate Toei shills can stop reaching.
>Trunks KOing Zamasu outta nowhere even though he was useless this whole saga

>>154699938
DB Heroes and Dimps in general
They love it, they also love SSJ4

>>154699891
This.

Not only Manga trunks do nothing, but he will lost his universe without even caring about it.

He reacted more to Gowasu's injury than ningen's death.

I mean shit.

>hurr durr I hate Goku and Vegeta
>the main characters
Then go watch/read a different series retard

>>154699938
useless transformation that served no purpose.

Biggest mistake in Dragon Ball.

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>>154699924
I really appreciated the anime having a resistance in the future, because, even if they couldn't really accomplish much, this arc above all others is the one where the normal humans have to show they can do something besides die and be resurrected later. There's no reason to feel emotionally involved in the manga's version of the arc, where Black and Zamasu are undercharacterized and incredibly generic, where Trunks does nothing, and where we don't see humanity doing anything before being offscreened. It's a fucking waste.

So it's official?

Toyotaro isn't /ourguy/ anymore right?

>>154699408
Yes, she does.

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>>154699938
Dragon Ball Multiverse, my friend

>>154700021
He was never /myguy/.

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>>154699970
>he was useless this whole saga
Where did this stupid meme come from?

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>>154699938
Super Saiyan 3 causes a greater loss in stamina for a living body than going Super Saiyan Blue more than once in a row.

>>154699839
>Happen in the manga too.
To a much lesser extent. But fine.

> He lost anyway
So? At least he fought and was involved. Toyo decided to have Vegeta fight instead of Trunks.

> More bad writing and he still failed
Mafuba was on both anime and manga. And I prefer Trunks/Mai using it instead of "Save us Goku"

> Black and Zamasu got stopped by tears gas
Literally has nothing to do with SS Ikari. Point is Trunks actually did shit.

Also gods, or god in a mortal body =/= immune to temporary blindness. Didn't Solar Flare still work in the Cell Arc? Or the whole *shoot blast, dust cloud everywhere, did I beat him?* happen throughout DBZ?

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>>154700030
>Zeno isn't an all-encompassing black hole.
Super is shit.

>>154699988
>but he will lost his universe without even caring about it.
And Goku was smiling and having a good time right afterwards. The end to that climax was so strange. We've just witnessed the biggest loss of life ever in the Dragon Ball series and the characters couldn't care less. The fuck?

>>154699722
The ending may have been bad but aside from that
>Anime Trunks>>>>Manga Trunks
All day

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>>154700040
Taiyoken*

>>154700015
This basically, and we're even miore dissapointed when we see how wasted manga's potential is.

When I see how trunks reacted to his mother death in the manga, I though that " he we go guys, this arc will be coherent, emotionnal and epic"

Then......when you see how trunks "react" to human's death like it was nothing.....

Without even quoting the other flaws of the manga version

You have 5 seconds to defend a battle royal instead of every match being a 4 v 4.

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>>154700040
It's because he couldn't waste Black and Zamasu in one punch.

>>154700131
the ending itself wasn't even bad, they just executed it badly
there really should have been an extra episode and then the whole arc would have been a solid 9/10

>>154698864
i love how reddit calls the new chapter a asspull or fanfiction or that the anime is more canon

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>>154700040
It came from him being jobbed several times. It came from him almost being killed. It came from him being a bystander in his own saga.

>>154700162
Why 4 v 4?

>>154699794
What's wrong with this guy??,i think he looks pretty damn cool

Will Goku even mention getting Monaka or did he forget about him?

>>154700039
#notmyguy

>>154700030
Vegeto is too much edgy in DBM like fuck.
The plot is also still cringy.

>>154700187
So just like the Cell Saga then?

>>154700021
He was until way back before he made Goku vs Hit a bore-fest.

Now I enjoy both the anime and manga despite their flaws

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>>154700163
>It came from him being jobbed several times.
So like the anime then?

>>154700220
The Cell Saga wasn't called the "Future Trunks Saga", anon.

>>154700189
I thought the teams were 8, forgot it was 10, my bad. 5 v 5.

>>154700040
>Training years and years to be a bait
>Somehow it's a achievement
>Such a great comeback.

>>154700248
Yes, which strikes me as weird since Toeidiots never the criticise the anime for this flaw.

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>>154700248

>>154700248
>>154700314
It's clear "F.Trunks jobs" was part of Toriyama's outline

>Manga Black is literally a retarded version of Xicor

So why did Dimps randomly decide to include Bojack in DLC Pack 3?
>Bojack over Dabura
jej

>>154699938
I feel like it had the same problem of Golden Freeza. Not enough time was spent training with it to build up the proper stamina. It could probably be a powerhouse with proper training.

Not that it matters anymore. Blue is stronger so why waste time with it.

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>>154700248
>>154700314
Because unlike in the manga, Trunks put up a fight against both Zamasu AND Black as well as even MERGED ZAMASU.

>>154700364
>the manga is being written and drawn by Xicor's creator

really makes you think...

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>>154700364
>Xicor
Who?

>>154698994
>frogposting

right back at you

>>154698940
Don't try too hard

>>154699928
Being a worthless side character and then appearing out of nowhere just to kill the main villain,that Doesn't fix anything ,He should been relevant throu the whole arc. But he wasn't

>>154700366
because XV2's gimmick is to have movie villains interfering during canon arcs

so yeah, Bojack is gonna randomly appear in the Zamasu arc in XV2

I know, it was fucked up, never said anime's ending was perfect.

I liked their idea of making such an end but it was badly handled, at least, trunks reacted.

Why should he care in the manga now seems humans are nothing to him?

THAT IS COHERENT FOR YOU.

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>>154700390
Which make no sense. Made Black look weak and the anime as a whole trash.

>>154700248
Jobbed isn't a good argument since everyone jobbed.

In the anime, he put a fight a try to be more than a BYSTANDER.

In the manga, why even bringing trunks back?

>>154699083
Toeishills

calling anything they possibly can "edgy" because they have no valid argument, only buzzwords

read the manga pedro

>>154699989
> Goku and Vegeta
>the main characters
That's the manga thou

>>154700484
>we shouldn't have had the best fight in Super so far because MUH POWERLEVELS

literally kys yourself

>>154699083
Quite the opposite.

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>>154700484
>Made Black look weak
Except it didn't because Black took out Vegeta, Goku, and nearly killed Trunks hadn't Goku and Vegeta returned.

Who cares if the power scaling was fucked? It was WAY more enjoyable.

try again.

>>154700484
Never perfect but at least he tried.
Maybe it was surprise's effect, like piccolo kicking frieza out of nowhere.

As if toyotaro isn't able to give coherent power up to a human-saiyan as trunks but since he's autistic...

>>154699348
You could get a job but you don't. People with jobs aren't worthless just because they did something you could but chose not to.

They have worth because they chose to do it, while you are worthless because you do nothing.

Does anybody think Monaka will even be mentioned in the next two episodes?

>>154698912
>>154699036
>>154699184
>>154699257
>some shitty chinese knockoff is better animated than Super

HAHA holy shit it's pathetic Toei, they need to get their shit together.

>>154700675
More enjoyable than manga version.

Really make you think.

>you now realize that mangacucks call Toyotaro "/ourguy/" because he is just as autistic as them

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>>154700724
That explain everything.

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>>154700550
>a full powered Kamehameha from Super Saiyan Rose Black
>nearly killed Trunks
>nearly
Like I said weak.

>>154700176
It's bad cause they didn't explaing anything..i guess they can still introduced a new ova based on the maju buu saga events or where They can explained how Trunks achieved the SSR So i'm not losing my hopes on that

>>154700420
>the manga is literally a fanfiction

huh...

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>>154699938
its really hard being a ssj3fag

Honestly, how will mangafags ever recover from this disaster of a chapter?

>>154700763
and they didn't explain anything because they had to rush and fit everything in just two episodes
which I wonder what the fuck the reason even was considering we got like ten episodes of filler before the new arc

>>154700762
>Full powered kamehaeha

Nice headcanon.

>>154700162
Strategy is much more important than power level in a BatteRoyal and the weak characters Like Roshi will have much more chances to shine

>>154700824
By shouting really loud until the next episode comes out.

>>154700162
I can't defend it.

It's just a reason to put a lot of bland character.

>>154700824
God animefags are desperate, the full chapter isn't even out yet and they're shitposting like crazy.

>>154701012
How can you be this retarded.

>Gowasu is injured
>Trunks show how worthless he is again
>Everyone job
>GOKU AND VEGETA SAVE THE DAY.

What can happen between?

Where is the chapter REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>154701098
>>Trunks show how worthless he's again
Who cares he'll have his moment when he splits Zamasu in half later on.
Are you really upset he didn't learn Mafuuba on Piccolo's youtube channel?

>>154701098
Animefags. Explain you're grievances with the manga and why it's bad.

Maybe they did a quick ritual on Vegeta before heading back to the future timeline.

Is that so hard to believe?

>>154700650
Hopefully not. We already have Satan for scenarios and jokes about a weak guy pretending to be strong. Do we really need Nipples Satan around?

>>154701210
>Somehow he kill the final boss without achieve a thing
>Was never been a threat to Black and Zamasu but get the final boss somehow

How can you explain that? Humans are dead, no connection at all.

>>154701098
>>154701179
Ha!

>>154701179
>irony the post

>>154701012
They really are. They call themselves intelligent, but I've only seen them start fights, be deliberately ignorant and blatantly call out the manga on having the same flaws as the anime (even if it is to a minor extent). At this point it's just reaching

>>154701224
>Didn't read the thread at all

That's why you like toyotaro, because you can be a speedreader with him.

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How did Vegeta get SSJB?

>>154701349

manlet rage

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>>154701340
Proving >>154701326 right I see.

>>154701349

Access to god ki by training with the upper tier Gods.

That's been explained already

>>154700856
My guess is that they knew that they couldn't hold the quality of the ep 66 for another episode they just decided to make the final episode to look as good as possible,and fit eveything into that one,i mean For one side i'm glad that they let the best toei animator to handle the vegetto fight,But at the same time the episode ended up looking rushed

>>154701318
He try at least.

Manga trunks doesn't even try anymore, he know that anything he will do achieve nothing.

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So it's safe to assume Toyo isn't including SS Ikari Trunks?

Why? In favor SSG Vegeta? Or just not wanting Trunks to do anything?

>>154701389
in what chapter?

>>154701387
>What is reading

You need to be at least 18 to browse on 4chan

>>154701414

Because it was complete bullshit. Trucks had no business getting that much of a power boost.

>muh glowing sword

Fuck off

>>154701414
Because he's an autistic fanfic-tier writer.

Too retarded to explain a coherent power-up (like gowasu unlocking his potential).

>>154701479
It's better to be a bystander so?

It's better to have a story more boring so?

>>154701414
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/

I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.
Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.

Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!
SSIkari could very well be something he unlocks at the climax of the arc against Zamasu as well as the Spirit Sword.
We won't know til next or last chapter.

>>154701453
Clearly. I suggest you run along now, and follow your own advice.

>SSG needs ritual
no it doesn't. It's safe to say any Saiyan with god ki can achieve this form

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>>154701414
Toyo hates fun.

Instead of SSB Kaioken and SS Ikari, he'd rather have SSG again.

Why are people obsessed with wanting Trunks to one shot Zamasus? He specifically used the time machine because he was helpless.

>>154701608
What if all you need to do is participate in the ritual as one of six?

>trunks getting owned
Clearly. Black and Zamasu are on entirely different levels, if he got owned it was rightly just

>>154701566
See >>154701300

Why would he unlock it now?

To save a universe he doesn't even care about?

To avenge humans he doesn't even care about?

>>154701650
I don't think it's that. I think an angels training can get you god ki. The ritual is probably a shortcut

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Can't wait for next month.

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Reminder that Manga Black a shit.

>>154701271
But to Goku he's even stronger than any of them, so wouldn't he mention to get him and Beerus would pretend to ask him?

>>154701645
BUT VEGETA REMINDING HIM TO BE MORE THAN THAT.

In the anime, he get it, in the manga, he would have killed himself if DB was a seinen.

>>154701645
This, SSAsspull was dumb, one year of Black killing humans, kills Bulma, appears to kill Mai, nothing. Zamasu calls Trunks a name, suddenly asspull powerup.

>>154701733
both are shit and dead

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>>154701733
This so fucking much.

>>154701790
>Black being sadistic
>Zamasu attacking trunks personally by making feel like he's responsible of everything
>Somehow it's bad.

Are you guys ready for Vegeta SSG doing the Genkidama and defeating merged Zamasu

>>154701414
Toyotaro is autism.

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>>154701733
Anon. The only difference between the two is that Black in the anime has a goddamn broken Zenkai. Of course he's going to be smug, especially when the bastard became SSB level by fighting Goku. He has no reason to feel afraid as he will overcome the opposition
Manga Black makes sense. Since when can switching bodies suddenly give you this almighty ability to become stronger everytime you take damage? Why didn't the same happen with captain ginyu?

>>154701733
I'M XICOR!

THE HEIR OF MY FATHER SAN GOKU!!!!!

>>154701608
>It's safe to say any Saiyan with god ki can achieve this form
On what basis? Only Toyotaro's fanfiction portray it as a form any Saiyan can achieve.

>>154701892
>Manga Black makes sense.
Is this the only rebuttal mangafags have? kek
>doesn't have to be good... as long as it makes sense!

>>154701892
Where did you see black being happy of his opponent strenght in the manga?

Fucking speedreader.

>>154701892
Don't use logic against Toeishills. Their broken zenkai is all that they have left, take that away from them and they'll literally break down in tears.

>>154701892
retard

Did the manga show Black kill Chi-chi and Goten?

>>154701934
>On what basis?
God Ki.
Super Saiyan Blue is a derivative of Super Saiyan God in that they use Super Saiyan as well as God ki. What happens if they depower from the Super Saiyan and keep the God Ki? Super Saiyan God.

Toyotaro is my waifu

>>154701975
>MUH COHERENT
>PLEASE TOYOTARO LET ME SUCK YOUR COCK
>YOU'RE PERFECT, NO FLAWS AT ALL.

>>154699686
Goku figured it out in minutes. It just took him all night to get the aim down because it was funny and because nobody was holding the pot

>>154701996
Nope.
Goku never fought Black either.
Black immediately fused with Zamasu cuz he was scared.

>>154702018
>broken down into tears
Thanks for proving my point.

>>154701995
>I-I have no counter argument!

>>154701935
>implying something that makes no sense can be good
Sasuga Toeishills. Dunno who's worse, them or Perdos.

>>154702013
Except that's totally wrong, God Ki without Super Saiyan is Saiyan Beyond God.

>>154701996
Nope, black don't do anything to make the main character being more involved against him.

He's as much shit as xicor was.

>>154701935
But it IS good, becuase it does make sense

The anime is bad, because it doesnt make sense

>>154702017
No he's not he's our guy.

>>154702032
Well that's disappointing

>>154702060
>what is abstract art
>what is experimental animation/music/movies
>what is life

>>154701957
Why would Black be happy about his opponents strength? He wants to exterminate all mortals, why would he praise the strength of one? In my eyes he's just mocking and belittling them.
>>154702069
On what basis? I ask respectfully.

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>>154701917
I actually like Xicor's character DESIGN despite the edginess and lack of anything Kai-related, but literally everything else about him is shit.

>>154702040
No i'm laughing, you're literally so much blinded that you can't even criticize a thing from your god.

Thanks to show us how mangacucks are.

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Toyotaro here

How did /a/ like the Goku and Vegeta show latest Dragon Ball Super manga chapter?

Am I /yourguy/ now?

>>154702032
So no Goku's rage??...damn That's boring

>>154702122
Official word published in V-Jump.

>>154702060
It's only mangacuck who are butthurt by inconsistencies.

You guys can eat shit as long as it's coherent and canon.

>>154702151
Your tears are delicious, still rambling instead of debating the actual subject, kek.

>>154702179
>>154702105
Yep, sorry anons. Toyotaro rushed through everything and made Black a bitch and Goku useless.

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>>154701733
HOW CAN MANGAFAGS EVEN COMPETE?

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>>154702151
Hypocrite that you are, for you are doing the same worshipping for the anime, the thing you deride Toyofans for.

>>154702167
Don't worry, continue to write shit, mangacucks will eat it without complaining.

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>>154702220
>HOW CAN MANGAFAGS EVEN COMPETE?
Simple, they can't.

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>>154699207
That's the DB fanbase to you. They apparently already know exactly what will happen in the next chapters just by looking at a few leaked pages.

>>154701733
Anime balck is literally CRAWLING IN MY SKINN

>>154702112
>alll these inadequate examples to justify Toei being lazy and doing shitty writing.
That damage control.
>>154702201
All i see is Toeishills trying to force that broken zenkai asspulled scythe Black is well written. Somebody clearly is assblasted.

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>>154702220
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VhMCBiWKAI

Needs the music

>>154701733
>anime black a superior
Nope only good for memes

>>154702268
>>154702220
I can't even tell if this is bait or not anymore

>>154702195
>>154702122

Saiyan Beyond God is a DBH-exclusive term

>>154702253
Ending badly handled in future trunks's arc
QUALITY
Inconsistencies with timeline
Trunks's shitty first fight with SSRAGE

>You toeichad can't criticize

Try again.

>>154702296
It's probably just one person with a ton of proxies. I remember at the start of this manga vs anime shit there was this one guy autistically screeching about how anons were Toyopedro's and the like.

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ANIME BLACK SO KEWL

>>154701733
>>154701733
I think the reason so many people are mad about manga Black Goku Is because the DB fandom is mostly black people, for some reason they like Edgy Goku and dislike the manga because niggers people dont like to read.

>>154702319
Of course it is... the anime sucks

Noone can honestly think its good

Super in general is pretty garbo, the manga at least makes it not horrible

>>154702359
Ok. You realise the flaws the anime, you are a very good boy. Still that doesn't mean you need to autistically screech about the manga's flaws

>>154702319
>Showing good animated scenes
>Somehow it's bait

Mangacucks are that retarded, they need time to admit it.

>>154702375
>Why human try to be useful?
>Why this isn't Goku and Vegeta's show?

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Can we have a thread without Anime / Manga bickering by any chance? You can focus fire on me and call me a faggot for doing the whole smugpup thing but it'd be nice if people just chilled out for a while.

It's clear that neither side will listen to each other or concede so at least you can at least agree on the fact I'm a furfag who should go kill myself - I'm ok with that... it's just we haven't had a thread for a long time without the whole discussion degrading into 2 factions no longer even arguing about whether the anime or manga is better but just stating opinions and calling the other side retarded / le spic meme. It honestly make me a little sad because I've seen you guys have completely decent discussions otherwise. I mean today alone has been over 3000 posts and 6 threads of the same toeishill / toyocuck assblasting, there HAS to be something else right?

>>154702467
standing around isn't hard to animate, what those little clips showcase is how good Anime Black's demeanor is. Animation wise it's stagnant.

>>154702406
>They hate the manga so they're niggers
>Such a great argument
>Mangacuck are /pol/tard

That explain everything.

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>>154702375

>>154699315
>Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
I know the guy who runs Kanzenshuu gets triggered by this (even though Gokou is the romanization used on all the JP merchandising) and at one point had "Gokou" filtered on his forum, so that it automatically corrects it to "Goku". I don't know why spelling variations trigger weebs so much.

>>154702467
Listen, humans doing ANYTHING to people as strong as Black and Zamasu is a logical fallacy in itself. It would be understandable if it was a laser, but it was a damn sniper rifle.

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>>154702520
Only if you draw some good Rikeeru which is better than Smugpup.

>>154702407
>Both are shit
>At least the anime is entertaining

Fixed it.

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>>154702531
>Toei a shit
>posts two people who can sense energy being fooled by a blanket and a prop and Trunks wasting his ambush attacking an immortal

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>>154701693
To stop Zamasu and Black. Back in chapter 18, it's obvious that they already know their universe is ruined when Mai asked Trunks after waking up WHY did he even come back to the future.

>>154702593
Better than tea gas

>>154702520
Hurry up and draw your own manga already so we can shitpost and call each other retarded over it.

>>154702579
Made by Bulma.

Isn't she's like the smartest human on earth?

Did you even watch the episode?

>>154702583
But thats obectively false

>>154702593
>being this retarded
That's the point Black and Zamasu though the Saiyans were hiding their Ki. It was actually pretty smart, too bad Toei can't take notes.

>>154702642
Listen, regardless of what she did to it it would have to be a fucking jacked bullet to even harm a god. That bullet had the power of levelling several mountains if it could manage that

>>154702582
I'm honestly surprised nobody has jumped onto the train with Liqueel yet. It's mostly why I've refrained from making up a personality and headcanon for him because he's not going to be appearing or relevant any time soon, is already a GoD and is exempt from taking part in the tournament as either a combatant or a spectating GoD.

I mean it's a friggin shirtless foxman some kindof furry artist should've latched onto him by now by I guess I was wrong.

>>154699811
You're so full of shit you hypocritical fuck.

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>>154702583
>At least the anime is entertaining
Damn right, the anime is hella entertaining

>>154702406
I prefer the manga and i'm black, so?

>>154702718
Rikeeru is simply too godlike.

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How did you mangacucks enjoy Not!Xicor ? Because this is all you got, you won't be seeing him again since he fused with zamasu

Meanwhile, us who enjoyed the anime got the god at his best

>pic related

>>154702764
It means you're my brutha from anutha mutha.

Fucking idiots making retarded assumptions when the chapter isn't even translated yet. Hell, the full chapter isn't even out yet, we only have a few images and people act like they know everything that happened. Fuck you all.

>>154702598
>Admit that trunks ignore the remaining humans in purpose

So not only he's useless but also a bastard?

>>154702520
Smugpup, you believe too much in ningen, ningen will only continue to fight over trivial matters, you serve a foolish cause. This is why ningen must be erased.

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>>154699811
A Mary Sue is just as bad as a useless character.

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>>154702798
>smug ouchie
>alpha anything
top kek

He really needs to break that schematic way of thinking that everything has to make sense and everything has to be perfectly explained, db was never like that, not only there's no mystery there's no what-if it's also making the story boring

>>154702856
kekekeke

>>154702764
It means you are white inside

>>154702864
Acknowledged, but it cannot be ridiculous as the Super Anime has been. How can you have Black trashing Trunks and then him trashing Black when he's Rose? The inconsistency was a little much

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>>154702531
gotta love Mai fooling them with mannequins and sheets

>>154702924
Nope.

Didn't expect to see race bait in /a/ though.

We are all weebs anyway.

>>154702520
I don't have a furfag folder,so it will be appreciated If you can post more furfags

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>>154702829
Even if I'm proved wrong over and over again, even if "ningen" look at me and treat me with disgust and dismiss me like I'm an idiot, even if they won't stop the anime / manga / tori-toyo-toei infighting, I still see them as decent people who I would want to stand by. Fictional or not, that's just how I feel.

It might be part of my autism to feel that way, but that's just how it is. Ningen are for protecting no matter how many times even if they never accept me.

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>>154703048
He's going to be one of the first to job, isn't he?

>>154703039
I'd only post it if it's Dragon Ball related and not lewd. I don't have much saved on my computer outside of my own drawings though.

>>154703085
Probably, wouldn't change me as a person though, playing around with a completely fabricated "smugpup" persona has been kinda fun.

>>154702833
At least, he do things and entertain.

It's DB, why being that much butthurt about inconsistencies?

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>>154703063

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmU9e67EfmI

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New episode when?

>>154702798
You're forgeting this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Eg3YG8xOw

So is SSG stronger than SSB in the manga?

>>154703260
New episode is tomorrow at just a bit later than the time right now.

>>154703122
>I'd only post it if it's Dragon Ball related and not lewd
go ahead

>>154703310
No. Vegeta is basically trolling Black by transforming into Super Saiyan Blue for a fraction of a second and then reverting back to make it seem like Vegeta is kicking his ass in a weaker form

>>154703337
reminder that Japan wasn' effected by Daylight Savings day.

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>>154703048
Disgusting furfag scum, even worse than ningen scum. I'm just going to laugh at you when the ningens of this thread continue to call each other retards, cucks and shills over whether they like the anime, manga or hate both more. You're going to die a failure and nobody is going to remember you.

>>154703415
>transforming into Super Saiyan Blue for a fraction of a second and then reverting back
In which case his reserves should be fucked up according to Toyotaro's shitty Hit fight.

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>>154703408
I have this saved Konkichi giving a kid a lollipop, but there really isn't much else apart from the few smugpup drawings I have. I don't save anything of the U9 trio because I quite simply don't like them.

>>154703544
Not really. He's still using god power while in Super Saiyan God, Super Saiyan is literally Super Saiyan plus God Ki. I'd say reverting back from God to normal ki is what causes the reserve depletion

>>154703544
Wrong back then Vegeta went from Ningen Ki in base form into God Ki in succession.

Here he activates God Ki (Red form) once and then further expends it as short bursts of blue.
This doesn't contradict any previously established rule he created himself.

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>>154703611
It doesn't matter what you say, it matters what Whis says.

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Also this image of basil getting BTFO was a great reaction image so I saved it, otherwise I'm working on duo-toning the sketch I did earlier to see what it would look like if colored in.

>>154703686]
Blue is not a transformation that be done over and over again in succession from base form.

Vegeta is going from God (red) to God (blue) for fraction of a second. He is clearly aware of the limitations and have devised a way to work around it.

>>154703784
>from base form.
That's not what Whis is saying, he's saying Blue eats up stamina. He's saying Blue is a higher 3. He's saying You can't go in and out of Blue willy-nilly. He's saying that one can't go in and out of Blue, especially into a form Vegeta can't achieve.

>>154699412
sauce

>>154703840
That's merely your assumption created from the lack of information for this given situation.
You can easily pinpoint Vegeta's fatal mistake on transforming from Ningen Ki into God Ki in hindsight.

>>154703475
Ah right yes I'm in a different part of the world so I'm not affected by Daylights savings.

>>154703840
Remember, Blue is God Ki + Super Saiyan. If he's already using God Ki that already overcomes the initial hurdle of having to bring it out. Likely each red to blue flicker would cost as much energy as transforming into a Super Saiyan