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LEAKS HAVE ARRIVED
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>>154669567
FINALLY
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>>154669567
Is that the last page?
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>>154669625
Yep
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>>154669567
Awesome, leaks coming out earlier than I expected.
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>>154669656
How much longer is this arc gonna last?
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What if they used the Mafuba on Black in the Manga
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>SSR Black jobbed to SSG Vegeta
How will Blackfags ever recover?
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>>154669567
Does DB Fusion have stuff from DBS in it?
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>>154669625
Yep, just like we predicted.
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>>154669694
Just wait for one month
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>>154669567
They are both in God ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QK3IBW3e9c
Are we going to get SSG Vegito and SSB Vegito, IN THE SAME ARC!?
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Soon
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>>154669738
Yep. Vegeta has Super Saiyan God confirmed.
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>>154669711
What do you mean?
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>>154669756
To job.
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>>154669750
>SSG Vegito is possible

omfg I can't contain the hype
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>>154669769
fuck

*do you think
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What the fuck it actually happened.
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Remember when we thought this arc was going to end in December
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>>154669756
Cell Fags need to stop
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>>154669567
Are there more pics?
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goku is a fight junkie, and with Vegeta being GoD he could stop destroying other universes and can fifght Vegeta and train with him, and Vegeta on the other side would finally be stronger than Goku and can guars his family because he is a 'family man' now.
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>>154669877
He'll be fine
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>>154669843
Remember when they said it was going to be rushed?
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>>154669567
>>154669827
Well, shit. Now I have to update this now just need a good panel of him in SSG state send over the link.
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>>154669877
ZAMASU REALLY DID IT
HE PUT A HOLE THROUGH GOWASU TO STOP HIM FROM DRINKING TEA
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>>154669843
I'm glad Toyo is taking his time with this arc. The anime already fucked it up by rushing the ending so much, now it's the last chance to make it great.
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C A N O N
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>>154669934
You also need a good panel of SS2 Black
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>>154669877
did he died?
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>>154669973
>Manga
>Canon
Kek.
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>>154669884
At the end of the black arc, I'm sure a fully powered Vegeta was stronger than goku. Plus he kept training with whis. They are either on par with each other or vegeta is slightly stronger
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>>154670026
>>>>>>>>?
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>>154670026
(You)
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>>154670026
here's your (You) but only one
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Any more leaks? I'm really curious how Vegeta got SSG.
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>>154670026
come back to me when the anime gets dialogue and redrawn panels by Toriyama himself.
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>best form comes back again
>also Vegeta confirmed user

Our fucking guy
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>SSG is PURE God Ki
>SSGSS is a mix of God Ki and normal Ki
>So see it this way
>SSG = God
>SSGSS = Half God or DemiGod
>----
>God Ki is stronger than Normal Ki so id see why they would go for the boost theyd get from God ki than they would a mix and fight in SSG instead of SSGSS.
SSG Vegeta? THE FUCK HAPPENED?
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At the pace that Toyo is going, I don't see this ending until May.
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>Vegeta also has acess to plain SSG.
Hey this might make up for Toyo doing the Jobeta thing so straightly.
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>>154669711
quite a bit.
from the moves to the U6 arc and future trunks arc.
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>>154670058
Probably just like he got SSGSS, via godly training with a fucking angel.
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Bets on how badly Black was humiliated?
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send the link to the chapter.
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>>154670102
Ssgss is still pure God ki, that's why no one can feel them except other gods
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>>154669567
>SSG Vegeta
How did he manage to transform into the godly looking transformation?
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>>154669567
>>154670102
or maybe he trained hard enough to only need ssj god to beat the shit our of black
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>>154670082
>Toyo is so bad at his job that Toriyama has to babysit him and hold his hand just to make sure he gets things right
Wow, how pathetic.
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>>154670029
Shit I copied my post from other thread which was dead...
I wanted to ask what do you think couls vegeta become a GoD? It wouls be a nice epilouge for the whole DB, Goku always having someone to fight, and Vegeta finally being stronger than goku and combined with his pride, ruthlessness and sense of justice he would be quite good.

Opinions?
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>>154669750
>SSG Vegito

MY DICK
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>>154670168
That's Toei that needs all the help they can get:

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/


Speaking of the manga, I want to ask you two about how you put the manga together. I hear Toriyama-sensei checks the storyboards for each chapter.
Toriyama: That’s right.


Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotaro-sensei‘s manga as reference.
Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!
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>>154670102
>pushing headcanon when is almost time of new info
Anon can't you wait a bit? Your (not that bad) headcanon could be proved wrong soon
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>>154670128
But he already did that to get SSB, wouldn't SSG be exclusive to those who did that "being surrounded by 5 Saiyans" thing?
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send me the chapter link damn it
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One of these may soon be official.
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>>154669567
/our guy/ delivering dat good God form shit.
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>>154670082
>Toriyama an authority on Dragon Ball
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>>154670102
Hurr. Did you forget it was established in the fight with Hit in the manga that SSJB >>> SSJG?
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>>154670168
Except Toriyama is fucking happy with how he and Toyo work and Toriyama doesn't care about the anime even when is so fucking bad that he openly complains about it
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>>154670187
I think that would be a fitting ending to the show. I feel like vegetas been shit on enough times in his life, he deserves it
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>>154670102
What is SSG Vegitio doesn't defuse right away and the portara work like normal until they drop out of it?
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>>154670282
Yes Shueisha/Jump is the franchise rights owner that run Dragon Ball Room and they answer to Toriyama. Toei has been put in their place.
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>>154669567
>The Prince of all saiyans finally became a God
Leave Merged Zamasu, to us.
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>>154670254
Yeah the one that is not Gogeta
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>yfw Toyo has Goku and Vegeta fuse into Gogeta just to spite those Vegitofagots
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>>154670082
I don't know what's funnier, fags like you taking this too seriously when Toriyama only corrects Toyotaro's jokes or designs because he gives zero fucks about the rest or the fags that defend the shitty anime.
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>>154670254
>yfw SSG Vegetto doesn't have the drainage problem or has a much longer duration at least
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Does Goku and Vegeta being god indicate that they succeeded in sealing Future Zamasu, so they decided to tag team on Black? Black would then unseal Zamasu?

MAH DICK
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>>154670349
>shitty anime.
yes the anime is shit.
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>>154670293
>All this damage control
Why are you getting so defensive? It's fine to admit Toyo is a hack. We've known this since AF.
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>>154670223
>But he already did that to get SSB
So? Goku trained in the Other World to get SS3 and that's what he did for SS2 as well

>wouldn't SSG be exclusive to those who did that "being surrounded by 5 Saiyans" thing?
Why? Goku get the godly ki form for minutes with the ritual and a year later he can do the same at will, why not Vegeta?

being surrounded by five pure hearted saiyans = temporal SSG
actual godly training with an angel = permanent? SSG
SSG + SS = SSGSS
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so lets see
Goku has Super saiyan 1-3, SSG, SSGSS
Vegeta has super saiyan 1-2, SSG, SSGSS
the only thing Vegeta is missing is super saiyan 3 to tie with Goku in terms of super saiyan transformations,
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>>154670383
Like the Super franchise. Toyo should had continued the AF manga.
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What the fuck happened with SSR Black?
Did I skip several chapters?
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please for the love of kami send over the link.
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>>154670417
>being proven wrong
>"D-damage control! Why are you getting so defensive..?"
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>>154670342
Please god let this happen. I need a good laugh.
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>>154670443
>Toyo should had continued the AF manga.
Yeah, it's just as canon as the Super manga anyway, so no harm done.
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How did Vegeta get SSG? Did he impregnate Dende 5 times while in the time chamber, and use the Namekian-Saiyan hybrid bastard children for the ritual?
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>>154670428
Super saiyan 3 was a mistake
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>>154670428
>SS3
Who cares? Vegeta doesn't need SSG or SSGSS to be SS3 tier
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>>154670365
SSG has no drawbacks right? It used to be short term but Goku and Vegeta mastered it. And Toyo never said it has the flaw that SSB has.
This would mean it wouldn't be harmful to Fusion
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>>154670482
>Proven wrong
>By links that have been debunked a million times before in a million different threads
Sure, whatever you say man.
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>>154670342
If that happens i'll start praising toyo.
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>>154670419
what exactly is the difference between what you call "godly training" and regular traning? I can understand Goku getting SSB with all that "controlling your godly ki" stuff, but the way they made Vegeta magically get SSB too was always retarded. What's the point of introducing SSG if you can get a stronger transformation just by doing some intensive training with some gods?
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>>154670342
It would hurt, but only a little bit
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>>154670573
>links that have been debunked a million times before in a million different threads
Hum your ass seems to be a good source... I'm convinced
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>>154670573
>By links that have been debunked
top kek
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>>154670598
One is controlled Ki
One is Uncontrolled Ki
SSGSS utilizes focus and level headedness. that moment with SSGSS Goku throwing a fit only fucked this up. But even then, he wuickly regained his cool.
SSG however, is just a form of a saiyan having the powers of a god.
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>>154669934
Where is Gohan's Super Saiyan 2 form? Where is Trunk's Ultra Super Saiyan form?
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>>154670282
He is only an authority when he is writing the outline, he isn't when he is bullshitting and retconning pointless shit on interviews and being a general retard.

>>154670293
The problem with such hyperbolic statements is that it raises the expectations too high for the manga.

One would expect DBS to have similar quality to the original in art and story but it doesn't.

Toyble's art and a paneling are subpar and they show how little he understands basic shot composition.

Toriyama spouting bullshit like saying he is his sucessor only highlights his own stupidity as toyble's amateurish work demonstrate he has learned NOTHING from toriyama at all.
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Hey anons I got a premonition hear me thi...

No no don't go hear me this

>Imagine ssg vegito vs fused zamasu and then when he gets its purple deformed powerup vegito does turn blue to stomp the shit out of zamasu and our guy retcons the time limit on potaras
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>>154669567

>reading the manga when the anime is ahead

Literally the only reason anyone would read manga is to get spoilers earlier.
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>>154670714
>SS2 Gohan
Long forgotten
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>>154670598
>what exactly is the difference between what you call "godly training" and regular traning?
Who knows? Whis is an angel, a literal master of gods. If Goku and Vegeta learn how to transform themselves into gods via Whis' training, isn't that supposed to be understanding as they did because is an special training? It's like you wonder why Piccolo Jr arc Goku is so based compared to kid Goku after be trained for God's assistant

>What's the point of introducing SSG if you can get a stronger transformation just by doing some intensive training with some gods?
SSG was introduced for BoG, before create RoF, SSGSS and DBS.
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>>154670714
>Goh/a/n
>SS2
Pick one.
The jobber has not gone ss2 in super. Ever.
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>>154670807
I don't like the anime and I don't mind waiting a month for a new chapter.
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>>154669567
guess the leaks have started. hope for more soon
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>>154670342
>tfw Toyo has Goku and Vegeta fusion dance just to give us differently clothed Vegito
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>>154670807
Maybe because the manga is different from the anime?
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>>154669934

you are fucking retard

its sad how wrong that picture is
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>>154670767
(You)
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>>154669567
>that art
looks ass
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>>154670977
>you are fucking retard
You should learn proper grammar first.
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>>154670932
>he even call himself "Vegetto" again
>literally Vegetto with metamor clothes
>Gogeta retconned out of the existence even as Goku and Vegeta Metamor fusion

PLEASE
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>>154670977
>you are fucking retard
Oh, the irony.
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>>154670767
>Toriyama spouting bullshit like saying he is his sucessor only highlights his own stupidity as toyble's amateurish work demonstrate he has learned NOTHING from toriyama at all.

Eh, Toyotaro's pannel composition might not be quite up to Toriyama's standards, but they're certainly way above average. His battles flow better than the ones of most manga running on the current Shounen Jump.
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>>154670777
That would be nice but that also diminishes the possibility of that wicked 2-1 punch FZamasu did on Goku and Vegeta in drawn format.
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>>154670342
>yfw SSG Vegetto has Saiyan armor on
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Please guys. This isn't funny anymore send over the link.
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>>154670977
>you are fucking retard
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>>154670777
Nice digits
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>>154669567
best form
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>checks the Koren site
>no Koren raws to be seen
fucking lazy Koreans
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>>154671018
>>154671036
>>154671122

(you)

/typed too fast obviously
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Wait a fucking second, does this mean that since Manga Super had SSG Vegeta, that the anime could have SSG Vegeta appear. even though he already has Blue?
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>>154671219
Sure thing, Jose.
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>>154671219
>/typed
Just fuck off, spic
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I'm finally pleased... time to go now... but I'll back.
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>>154671233
Nope. Toyo uses SSG as a replacement for SSB Kaioken.
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>>154669756
I fucking wish
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>>154671233
Huh no? Anime have god ki in base forms, manga have base god forms. SSG Vegeta is just base Vegeta in the anime (but you can't know when he's using god ki which is a bit confusing)
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>>154671379
>>154671327
Oh, thats a bit dissapointing but oh well.
Blue Veggie still looks good
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>>154671327
That's wrong, though.
Also "replacement" isn't even the word
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>>154670026
>>154670282
((((you)))
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>>154671408
How is it wrong?
In the anime, Goku uses SSB Kaioken on Hit. In the manga, it's SSG
In the anime, Goku uses SSB Kaioken on Zamasu. In the manga, it's SSG
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>>154671327
Nope.
SSB is just really powerful in the manga.
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>>154671480
What are you talking about? I'm talking about scenes you dolt.
SSB Kaioken scenes in the anime are SSG scenes in the manga.
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>>154671408
More like he does make blue looks stronger, by using more the God base so it doesn't have to create deviantart tier modes like ssbkk
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>>154671480
>jobbed to a SSJ2
Yeah, """"really"""" powerful right there.
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>>154671524
See >>154671508
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>>154671524
>More like he does make blue looks stronger
It looks real strong here alright >>154671533
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>>154671533
Why does he have a regular SS hair?
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>>154671508
There was no ssbkk against normal zamasu
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>>154671408
Maybe he should have used "counterpart".
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>>154671533
I love Black's face in these panels. Toyo really captured the look you have when you're making a comeback on someone who was beating your ass
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>>154671565
That does just means black was that strong not that the blue was weak
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>>154671470
>In the anime, Goku uses SSB Kaioken on Hit. In the manga, it's SSG

SSG in the manga is unable to break Hit's timestop when he goes at full power, and it's SSB that does it, so its role wasn't the same as Kaioken SSB in the anime at all.

>>154671508
>SSB Kaioken scenes in the anime are SSG scenes in the manga.

Not really. The full power Kamehameha and Hit dodging it at the last second happens with SSB in the manga, not SSG.
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>>154671593
In the anime it means Hit was just that strong not that SSB is weak. What now faggot?
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>>154671470
That doesn't mean SSG was a SSBKK equivalent. SSBKK equivalent is SSB's cooldown.

>Toriyama outline: Vegeta is humillated by Hit but Goku isn't since he's 10 times stronger when he fights Hit (and he know about the timeskip)

>Toyotaro version: Goku is 10 times stronger than Vegeta because Vegeta's power was drained by a bad usage of his SSB transformation
>Toei version: Goku is 10 times stronger than Vegeta because fuck it Kaiokek x10

Toyotaro used SSG because is interesting, is useful and isn't in the anime (so makes the manga more appealing), but SSG wasn't SSBKK equivalent.
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Where are these scans coming from?
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So where the fuck was Buu during Resurrection of F
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>>154671533
1 He's SS
2 Just like Buu jobbed to SS Vegetto? Transformations are multipliers you idiot, and base Black is already SS3 tier
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>>154671639
The powerlevels in the anime where more like a roller coaster of inconsitency, just because hit didn't jobbed to blue that doesn't means blue wasn't pushing his shit in either way
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>>154671736
I think he was sleeping.
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>>154671689
>Toyotaro used SSG because is interesting
SSG is literally the worst shit to come out of this new Dragon Ball.
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>>154671775
>talking shit about best form
kys
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>>154671775
Wew kys
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>>154671704
THIS. I want the links NOW.
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>>154671841
>glorified Kaiokek
>best anything
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>>154671841
whats puts me off is the eyes. he looks so fucking unhinged
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>>154671890
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>154671841
>>154671852
>worst recolor
>better than anything but SSJ3 hair
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>>154671841
I enjoy Rose better, not because I'm a black fag but because it's a good colour.
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>>154671741
That only makes their usage of SSJG retarded then because the multiplier between SSB and SSJ3 is supposed to be enormous.

SSJ1 black is already stronger than SSB Vegeta and a hypothetical SSJ3 of his would be 8x stronger, nevermind Rose which is his version of SSB.
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>>154671890
Literally every canon SS form comes from KK

>SSB is SS but blue
>SS is KKx10 but yellow
>KKx10 is KK but with spiky hair
>SSG is KK but with a different shade
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>>154671929
Like a good Saiyan should be.
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JUST
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>>154671935
Well, Rosé is second best form
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>Kanzenshuu assblasted about SSG Vegeta
>pic related
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>>154672016
PINK
E
R
F
E
C
T
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>>154671959
Shinjin's ki makes SS forms work different, it was already established in the manga so multipliers aren't necessarily the same as the regular ones
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>all these faggots ignoring the best super saiyan form
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>>154669567
Why is Goku not in Blue? Is Vegeta in SSG and not Blue too?
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>>154670928

>>154672032
>Kanzenshuu assblasted
worth it than
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>>154672095
>it was already established in the manga
>this blatant lying
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>>154669827

This actually looks good
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>>154672160
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>tfw waiting for a based anon to share the link to full chapter raws
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>>154672095
>Shinjin's ki makes SS forms work differen
Except this isn't true at all and if that's the case the events so far only demonstrate they amplify the multiplier instead of making it lower like you're trying to imply.
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>>154672213
>instead of turning blue, they turn pink!
Boy, does that sound stupid.
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>>154672221
I can't properly scan the pages yet
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>>154672117
Can Lava SSBKK Goku beat Beerus?
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>T-Toyo w-will be ahead I s-swear
>SSBKK is n-no longer c-canon and will never a-appear again in the anime
>H-Hit is t.trash in the manga to make SSB look s.strong
>SSBKK breaks the p-power scaling by a SSJ beating a SSB t-totally doesn't
>G-Goku is a retard in the anime, w-what, Goku hasn't even k-kissed Chi Chi in the m-manga you say?
>V-Vegeta is not a j-jobber, oh wait he had SSG the whole time so he was retarded for not using it on Hit and using a downgraded SSB instead
Is there anyone more cucked than Toyocucks?
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>>154672289
Sadly lava ki can't mix wth god ki or it kills the user
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>>154672117
why does this even exist? is it because broly died in lava once?
also
>that One Piece lava
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>>154672351
it exists because lava is cool
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Reminder.
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>>154672213
>changes colors of SSB
>that somehow means it changes the multipliers of SSJ in the mind of a Toyoshill
Wew
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>>154672213
>Only highlighted difference is that they're pink
>no mention of difference in power or alleged multipliers
You're reaching.
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>>154672261
>Except this isn't true at all
See >>154672213

>if that's the case the events so far only demonstrate they amplify the multiplier instead of making it lower like you're trying to imply.
How? SSB Vegeta lose to SS Black, then he trains for a year in RoSaT and beat SSR Black. How is that stronger?
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>>154670932
>implying Vegito isn't simply an inferior vegeta
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>>154672448
/gogeta
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>>154672378
I'll admit Goku Black's personality in the manga is quite lackluster, but the manga makes up for it with a better artwork than the anime will ever have.
Manga Black is better just for the artwork alone.
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>>154672440

Its just as bullshit as the anime. At least with the manga Black wasn't in BASE casually tanking SSB Vegeta's punches.
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>>154672477
>better artwork
*traced
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>>154672351
>Magma Goku, or Magu Goku is is Son-Goku created using the power of Magma. He came into existance when he fought the Villains in Hell. Stressed, Goku was overpowered and thrown into a volcano, and there, he absorbed Lava and heat, which turned him into Magma Goku. Unlike his more serious counterpart (Light Goku) and His calmer counterpart (Ice Goku), he is very impatient and does not take jokes easily.
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Anyone got the list of which Ep to get into after you've watched the first movie?
Should I not bother with all that and just read the manga?
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>>154672323
Well you can defend Vegeta by saying it was his pride that kept him from using it.
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>>154672532
>Should I not bother with all that and just read the manga?
Honestly, this. But if you still want to watch the anime anyway, then start at episode 28 (and you can skip episodes 68-76 if you're not interested in filler).
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>>154671841
>best form
Pic related
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>>154672378
They're both good, shut up.
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>>154672532
do you want extremely shitty animation and pointless filler but a less rushed feeling or you just want the canon story without any bullshit added and decent art?
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>>154672561
You can't because his character already developed past his petty pride.
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>>154672032
Huh? They're mostly praising it outside of one Toeishill
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>>154672583
>skip episodes 68-76 if you're not interested in filler
Hit and Goku rematch took place in the middle of those episodes.

Reminder there will not be a rematch in the Universe Survival Arc because it's a Battle Royale and Hit can't use his Assassin techniques there because killing is prohibited.
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>God Vegeta
fucking yes, but also why
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>>154672606
>the canon story without any bullshit added
>one entire episode wasted in Mario Kart
The manga is trash, just face it.
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>>154672620
Old habits die hard.
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>>154672649
Who cares, he's gonna job to ayyylmao anyways.
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>>154672585
WRONG
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>>154672698
>>one entire episode wasted in Mario Kart
Stop lying, it was 3 pages of a 40 page chapter
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>>154672704
Reminder that Vegeta literally dindu nuffin and all the shenanigans in Super is basically Goku's fault
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>>154672740
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>>154672323
>>Toyo wwill be ahead I swear
He's ahead, anon. It's called "production", which doesn't mean "publication".

>SSBKK is no longer canon
"No longer"? How anyone would say that? SSBKK never was canon. Maybe are you just shitposting?

>Hit is ttrash in the manga
We know you toeishills think he's because you can't enjoy him if he's not a inconsistent powerhouse but we dont' care about that, dude.

>a SSJ beating a SSB totally doesn't
Explain how it do. Do you think SS Vegetto being way stronger than SS3 Gotenks is inconsistent too? Are you too stupid to understand how multipliers work?

>Goku is a retard in the anime
He's. So? Not being interested in romance means you're a retard? You're probably not interested as well, then.

>he was retarded for not using it on Hit
He was too much prideful, yes, that's Vegeta character. If you want to call it "retarded", yeah, he has been a retarded by a long time, so?

>Is there anyone more cucked than Toyocucks?
Oh, the sweet irony... anyway, it was an good bait but I'm not interested on reply to (You) again. 6/10
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>>154672698
>wasted
What Toyo established in 3 pages of "Slice of Life" moments had more impact than Toei's bullshit by far.
In those mere panels it not only contrasted the depression mood and tone of the arc but established important character development between Vegeta and his two sons. Kid Trunks worked together with Adult Trunks and called him "big brother", there was barely any real development in the anime besides some off screen 1 on 1.
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>>154672770
It's a real Kakakomeback isn't it?
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>>154672388
>>154672391
Means that saiyan transformations works different with shinjin ki, which is exactly what I said it was stablished. Different multipliers aren't mentioned but are possible based on what manga said.
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>>154672813
depressing mood & tone of the arc*
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>>154669567
>Dragon Ball Super thread
>no one's trolling gohanfags
What went wrong?
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>>154672783
it's up to you to find a better form. good luck

http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Random
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I don't read the manga, why is SSG even a thing anymore when Blue exists?
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Are these all the scans so far? No more for the night?
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>before universe survival arc
>goku decides his team needs improvement
>pulls all the human fighters that can't exactly improve exponentially like saiyans to King Kai's world
>teaches Master Roshi, Tien, Krillin, kaioken
>better yet, teaches vegeta, gohan, and piccolo how to do it too
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>>154672508
>he doesn't know what tracing means
Enjoy this example
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>>154672378
Anime Black wasn't beaten by Vegeta, he turned the fight around. Based Black never lost a fight.
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>>154672958
Toeishills will never recover.
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>>154672903
Blue is more intensive to jump into. It's more conducive to conserve energy by going SSJ god then going straight to Blue.
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>>154672903
because it is a more linear power leveling instead of the deviant art tier kaioken bullshit
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>>154672963
I dont care if its an asspull its finally nice to see Z characters use shit beyond PEW PEW PEW PEW.
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>>154672788
>He's ahead
>source: my ass

>SSBKK never was canon.
>still appears in the canon source, the anime, that is ahead
I thought the argument was that Toyocuck would be ahead and guiding the anime in the Universe Survival Arc, but SSBKK appeared again. What happened?

>think he's
>jobbed to SSG meaning weaker than Golden Frieza
Literally shit tier and made the entire U6 Arc a waste of time.

>Explain how it do
The same way SSBKK does. It literally doesn't.

>Not being interested in romance
Goku in the manga still thinks kissing is disgusting like a 5 years old thinks.

>He was too much prideful
>Prideful about using a WEAKER form
Yeah nice headcanon Toyoshill
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>>154672698
>one entire episode
You're a really bad liar

also
>wasted
fucking Zbabies I swear
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>>154672863
>Means that saiyan transformations
Not it doesn't, only SSB does and it's only a change in color. Multipliers are not changed. Nice headcanon though.
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>>154672897
they've suffered enough
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How come nobody is complaining about this:
It's already bean established that Universe 7 is superior to Universe 6 because they beat them at the tournament (which was supervised by Zeno sama himself), and U7's Hakaishin is stronger than U6's Hakaishin.
Now what kind of mental gymnastic should I use to reach a conclusion that U6 is above U7.
>Toei animations as it's finest
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>>154673003
>but SSBKK appeared again. What happened?
Just because Shueisha and the gang is quality controlling the anime doesn't mean they're going retcon shit to match the manga's continuity.
They specifically stated to enjoy the differences between mediums. That's how they sell the magazines and anime, it's a genius marketing strategy.

Traditionally the manga would spoil the anime, but in this case they can capitalise on double the "new" content without spoiling the other.
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>>154670342
>mfw
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>>154672980
>deviant art tier kaioken bullshit
A 5 years old could draw SSG by just coloring Goku hair red.
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>>154672903
Anime use "saiyan beyond god" state, manga use SSG. It's the same but SSG isn't confusing since you can say if they are using god power or not
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>>154672958
Do I really have to post it? Do you really want me to embarrass you in front of everyone here?
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>>154669567
what an underwhelming intro for merged zamasu
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>SSBKK appears in the (non canon) continuity in which SSBKK exist
>"OMG KAIOKEN IS CANON NOW TOYOKEKS ASSBLASTED"

Are toeishills the most delusional people ever?
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>>154672899
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Future_Trunks_Majin_Buu_Story
>Future Trunks Majin Buu Story
>The story starts off with Super Majin Buu Destroying Cities Turning humans into chocolate future trunks comes and trys to save the people . Super Majin Buu Then Attacks Future Trunks getting punched dozens of times by Majin Buu he almost gets killed. Bulma seeing a bomb ran over to where Trunks Was And Trunks Said He Needed To Go To New Namek To Get A Wish From The Dragon.Bulma Now Knowing Where New Namek Was Created A Space Ship and Trunks went to New Namek. They Revived every one they saw Bardockig Vegeta buu used a volley of energy blast as soon as they arrived but luckly picollo save all of them and stalled. all of them went to capsule corp and n noticed a time machine trunks explaining what happend and now having a new time machine went to the past and got goten gohan trunks and vegeta, and goku. During the time yamcha and tien got absorbed by buu including the humans again so it was only up to the z fighters. but since Majin Buus power is so great none of them can beat buu. so goku brought some potara earings and went to supreme kais world to get some more while that happend .Future Trunks and the other fighters went to Kami's Lookout to go train.FutureTien and Yamcha Went To Kamis Lookout But Got Stopped By Majin Buu.Tien an Yamcha Stood In Fear Until They Saw Buu Attack Them Majin Buu Punched Tien.Yamcha Tried To Kick Majin Buu.
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>>154673159
I will miss the halo
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>>154673081
>retcon shit to match the manga's continuity
Except Toyoshills said this was exactly what was going to happen and that SSBKK would never ever appear again because it wasn't canon. Too bad SSBKK is far more liked than that trash SSG and retconning it would mean selling less.
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>>154673031
>it's only a change in color. Multipliers are not changed
Say who?

>nice headcanon though
Same here, yours isn't bad.
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>>154673092
Simple is good.
I'd much rather have a simple God ki form than to rely on a convoluted multiplier that shouldn't even exist because of stamina issues.
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>>154673159
Ssshh, don't ruin the moment. It's all poor mangafags will have for months before jumping to shitpost about anime quality.
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>>154672903
The manga tries to make the power levels a little more coherent and easily measurable. SSB is meant to be insanely powerful and they treat it as such so rather than SSG just being a useless transformation they make it actually useable and really strong because it is really strong, it's supposed to be better than SSJ3. The anime phased out SSG too quick for fucking shenanigans.
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>>154673163
>"non canon"
>is ahead
>far ahead
>so ahead Toyocuck will never ever be ahead again
kek
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>>154673159
>>154673232
delet this
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>>154673185
>Yamcha Tried To Kick Majin Buu.
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Could the mangafags please neck themselves so the Mortal rating of our universe gets better?
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>>154673204
The author, who made it clear the change is only in the color of SSB.
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>>154673294
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>>154673159
Toyble isn't a good artist, we've gone over this many times.
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>>154670342
>spite
actually it would be great and make the 1h time limit bullshit non canon toei fanfiction
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>>154673141
OK let me guess... you think that Toyotaro traces and your undeniable and decisive proof is that Toyotaro's panels for end of Boo arc looks like Toriyama's panels... for the same exact moment.
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>a human made this
>a real person thought this was good enough to share
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>>154673205
>Simple is good.
Nice meme, but simple is actually boring and lazy.

>convoluted multiplier
SSJ beats SSB in the manga.
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>>154673321
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>>154673254
>is ahead in publication
>which means is canon

Take your (You) and never come back here
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>>154673240
>The manga tries to make the power levels a little more coherent and easily measurable.
>by making a regular SSJ beat a SSB
Nice try Toyoshill

>SSB is meant to be insanely powerful
So powerful it loses to SSJ, figures.
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>>154673339
>SSJ beats SSB in the manga.
Goku Black has God Ki in base form.
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>>154673308
Yeah, literally never happened.

"hey, when a shinjin goes SSGSS he turns pink instead blue" =/= "that's the only difference it have with a regular saiyan"
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>>154673339

Black was tanking SSB Vegeta in base in the anime
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>>154673240
>The anime phased out SSG too quick for fucking shenanigans
More like because literally nobody with a brain liked that shit transformation, so they got rid of it fast like everyone wanted.
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>>154673205
>Simple is good.
So you love SSG, then
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>>154673321
delete
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>>154673487
Who doesn't?
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>>154672958
What a great homage from Toei
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>>154673444
It happened, actually, notice how he didn't make any comment on the power of SSB, just color.

"hey, when a shinjin goes SSGSS he turns pink instead blue" =/= "all SSJ multipliers are now different because the hair color of 1 changed"
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>>154673510

I'M PISSED! KISAMAAA!!!!
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>>154673336
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>>154673339
>>154673391
>SSJ beats SSB in the manga.
And a SS beats Boo+Mystic Gohan (who is already stronger than SS3 Gotenks who is already stronger than SS3 Goku even using regular SS) in the original manga (and DBZ anime), so?
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>>154673453
Tanking =/= beating the shit out of

Besides, the point is the manga is as bad as the anime when it comes to powerlevels.
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>>154673444
But that doesn't validate your position at all dumbass.
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>>154673549
>It happened, actually,
... are you mentally damaged, anon? I mean... just what the fuck are you pretending?
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>>154673574
Potara Fusion is stated to be Goku's powerlevel multiplied by Vegeta's powerlevel. Of course it is as strong as it is. Meanwhile Black is just, Zamasu with Goku's body.
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>>154669567
I love toyotaro but the 40pages are getting to him. The art is looking worse and worse each new chapter.
Also why is vegeta and goku in ssg?
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>>154673565
>I still don't get what the fuck tracing means
You're pathetic.
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>>154673636
>this is coming from the idiot who is arguing a change in color means all multipliers changed
Wow I feel insulted, not.
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>>154673562
calm down trunksu
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>mangafags start all the arguments
They said as animefags are all through this thread desperate to start fights
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>>154670455
Yes that shit happened two chapters ago
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>>154673659
>The art is looking worse and worse each new chapter.
What are you talking about?
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>>154673636
Are you?
You're a fucktard if you actually think the form having pink hair is enough to prove your worthless conjecture of it being weaker somehow justifying powerscaling issues in the manga.
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>>154673665
ok anon, enjoy your homages
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>>154673721
I'd say the same for the anime, but you just can't enjoy an homage of this QUALITY.
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>>154673647
Vegetto base is insanely strong so his SS form can beat a SS3 with a dickslap. Black base is insanely strong so his SS form can beat a SSB. That's all.

>Black is just, Zamasu with Goku's body.
So? Blame Toriyama for write a character that can beat SS3 Goku in base form in both mediums (and casually tank SSB Vegeta's punches in the anime, but that's Toei stuff)
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>>154673721
NO

THAT'S NOT TRACING
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Super Saiyan gets stronger the more powered a base is. I don't think idiots fucking get the memo, but if Black got a zenkai it's reasonable that he'd get a powerup. In addition, Zenkai power up increases are no laughing joke at high levels, Cell went from just above Super Saiyan to Super Saiyan 2 level using a zenkai. You could only imagine what Black could get
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>>154673777
That's not tracing, that's a perfect homage.
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>>154672221
Compare how much empathy toyotaro did for the choreographies/art for chapters that were 20 pages long and with those who are 40. Toyotaro is rushing it up a bit and is clearly noticable. The last page of the new chapter looks like one of his dbhero comics
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>>154673672
>a change in color MEANS all multipliers changed
I literally never said that, anon. Looks like you don't even know how to read.

>>154673709
>you actually think the form having pink hair is enough to PROVE
See above.
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>>154673777
>>154673721
>>154673565

B-b-but it's a homage

Toyble can draw much more epic fights with great coreography unlike shitty toei.
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>>154673756
>he thinks SSB is only x50 times SSJ3
Fucking Vegito is more than 50 times a SSJ3 and he is not SSG tier.
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>>154672963
Trunks was able to knock him out with a Galick Gun, for a good five minutes that is in the anime. If he didn't have to worry about Zamasu, he would have beaten Black
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>>154672378
Isn't that Super Saiyan Rose Black being compared to Super Saiyan 2 Black?
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>>154673837
>The last page of the new chapter looks like one of his dbhero comics
It looks fine, maybe you're just surprised by a new SSG + uniform combo.
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>>154673777
OK it's already annoying. Do you really think THAT's tracing? Are you purposely ignoring what tracing actually means? Is that your level of denial?
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>>154673665
>he's resorting to splitting hairs
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>people don't know both the manga and anime are fucking awful
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>>154673838
No evidence to the contrary, then the assumption is that it works as it should then.
Concession accepted.
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>>154673721
?
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>>154673659
>The art is looking worse and worse each new chapter.
Shitty quality bait, not even toeishills believe such a thing
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>>154673838
>I literally never said that
Well that just means the multipliers stay the same then.
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>>154673917
This desu.

>my shit is more aesthetically pleasing than your shit, just look at the homage it's paying to the great shits of the past!
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>>154673852
What the fuck are you talking about pal?
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>>154673959
>that shitty introduction to Merged Zamasu
>not bad
Wew
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>>154672963
>Black wields a scythe
>Death wields a scythe
>The plague was depicted in art as skeletons wielding scythes
>A common term for the plague was the Black Plague
>mfw we already survived Zamasu's rage
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>>154673959
Agreed, especially facial expressions looking more and more on model.
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>>154669567
Is that Vegeta in Super Saiyan God form?
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>>154673959
>Oooh... How magnificient...
Zamasu is a fucking faggot.
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>>154673917
>being a middle man faggot
Pick a side or gtfo.
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>>154673959
from this
to
this
>>154669567

thanks for proving his point dumbass.
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>>154674047
>being this desperate for conflict
Get help.
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>>154673927
>No evidence to the contrary
Except that SSB Vegeta will beat SSR Black.

>n-no that's an inconsistency because I can ignore a logic based on already established shit!

>Concession accepted.
>concessionfag
wew

>>154673961
How your reading comprehension work?
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>>154673983
One shitty introduction, and I agree it's shitty, doesn't invalidate all the other good
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>>154673959
>muh buzzwords
Fuck off retard I enjoy the manga a lot I am just afraid that toyotaro is focusing too much on story telling and explaining stuff then actually polishing fights and art. Compare beerus/champa - goku/frost -vegeta/kabba against goku/zamasu which looked pretty fucking sad of a fight and vegeta vs ssr black which was average at best
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>>154670102
Isnt SSG just a SSJ with all his emotions under control. so he doesnt leak ki?
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>>154673983
>chapter not even out yet
>one page
>shittalking
yeah, sure.
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>>154670254
so thats why this fucker was so fucking OP

goku got power from PAN, GOHAN, GOTEN, TRUNKS and then when he fused with vegeta he got SSG god SSJ4
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A billion years late, but Trunks learnt the Galick Ho from Vegeta in the Hyperbolic Time Room. No asspull, Super and Toei are perfect.
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>>154674118
>Vegeta vs Black
>average at best
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>>154674187
Wrong the commercial break cards specifically illustrate Trunks getting taught for the first time.
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Whis training gives you god ki theory debunked.
Vegeta did the ritual thank you toyo be blessed.
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>>154674131
This.

There are only 2 leaked pages so far and you guys are already jumping to conclusions. Fucking retards.
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>>154669567
>SSG

Why does Toyotaro keep forcing this? It's objectively weaker than SSGSS, the proper forward movement would be SSGSS Kaioken, not reverting to a weaker one-time transformation that Gokus body absorbed.

This is fucking fan fiction Heroes-tier bullshit and I hate Toyotaro for forcing it again.
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>>154673838
I get what you're saying, bruh. Sorry for all the fuckwits here who can't read. It neither proves nor disprove either of those positions, but it does confirm that they're different because of Kaioshin ki
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>>154674270
>SSGSS
We say SSB around these parts
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>>154673325
This
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>>154674115
You're backpedaling on your arguments, give up.

You said that one panel established shinjin ki works different on SSJ forms, you accepted that it doesn't. the fucking end

If SSB vegeta beats SSR then its an inconsistency because SSR being weaker multiplier was never established.
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Do you think Toyotaro will come up with a better reason for the Vegito defuse than retconning the Potara?
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>>154674270
No wonder Beat spams it in Heroes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evw_t_2J5J8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pypIQZbWHQ
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>>154674209
>meme pic
>no argument
I rest my case you faggot
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>>154674310
No.
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>>154674270
Think of the aura as flames, they have difference qualities
SSG = steady consistent flame with laser like focus
SSB = gas burner on full blast that chugs through stamina.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqmdRps_j00

C'mon anons, manga and animefags both have to agree that this scene was awesome

>Dat music
>Dat VA
>Dat echo
>Dat halo

So far the manga page doesn't live up to that
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>>154670342
Gogeta is a Toei creation. Fuck off spic.
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>>154674270
>This is fucking fan fiction Heroes-tier bullshit and I hate Toyotaro for forcing it again
"Beyond God" in base form in the real culprit here not SSG.
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>>154674295
>Not letting him call it what he wants to call it
There's nothing wrong with calling SSB super saiyan god super saiyan.
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>>154674229
>Humans can't obtain God ki
This sayian exclusive bullshit needs to stop
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>>154671929
theory is that the god ki started to heal his dead injury, making him a true sayian
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>>154674310
Depends if it's in Toriyama's outline

>>154674341
I mean, we'll need to see the full fusion scene in the man before we can properly judge it. Though I must admit, this is a pretty nice scene (and Miki is great).
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>>154674369
>Beyond God" in base form in the real culprit here not SSG.
Not really since that concept comes from toryiama himself.
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>>154674229
The opposite. Ritual is a temporal way to get god ki, angel training is the right way.
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>>154674229
You say it as if anyone expected humans to actually become relevant.
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>>154674341
Zamasu's VA was so good.
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>>154674437
>Not really since that concept comes from toryiama himself.
So? Toriyama himself also said SSJ2 and 3 won't be coming back but look at what we hav now?
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>>154674270
>transformation that Gokus body absorbed
Not happened in the manga, you idiot. SSG in the manga and god ki base in the anime are the same thing.
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>>154674444
>Ritual is a temporal way to get god ki
Wrong not in the manga. Also ssg is only obtainable through the ritual
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GOWASU NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>154674341
>We still don't have Blacks' OST
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>>154674457
Are they back though? They dont play any big part in the story besides being used as a warm up stage or for trunks
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>>154674286
Thank you. Glad to see that some anons aren't retarded.
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>>154674457
Toriyama doesn't care about inconsistencies or he is not nearly as involved in the manga as toyble would suggest.
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>>154674508
>warm up stage or for trunks
That's precisely the problem, there is no consistency to gauge how much innate God Ki powerup the base form has gotten.
He used SSJ2 against Goku Black and Zamasu but how do we really calculate how much of a base power boost he was expending during those fights? There isn't.
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>>154674444
>Goku upset he couldn't reach the realm of the gods on his own power
>Vegeta did
>This is now undone
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>>154674489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJEZi1jkssk
We have this for now
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>>154674330
If Toyotaro can properly explain the differences I'd be okay with it, but it feels so arbitrary.
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>>154674564
It's the definitive version where he is much more involved than FUJTV and Toei's anime.
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>>154674573
Why are you talking about the anime?
Toryiama supervises the manga
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>>154674450
Imagine how much better the Black arc would be if Zamasu was a woman.
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Manga scan anon, I have a question if you're still here. Did Bulma travel to the future with them or was that all Toei?
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>>154674582
Pretty decent, desu.
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>>154674463
The movie is canon above both the manga and the anime you shitnigger
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>>154674605
I'm talking about how even if absorbing God Ki into a base form once was Toriyama's concept, I much prefer the way God Ki is handled in the current manga than RoF.
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>>154674613
It wouldn't be better, just cuter
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>>154674595
Then it's either that toriyama doesn't supervise the story as much as he says or he simply is retarded and can't implement the shit he says in interviews into factual canon.
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>>154674302
>you accepted that it doesn't
Are you just delirious now..?

>SSR being weaker multiplier was never established
Except is established in the fight, as was established that Mystic Gohan is stronger than SS3 Goku when he fought super Buu even before Goten and Trunks said he's stronger than SS3 Gotenks
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Where you got the leaks from? 2chan?
Why only post 1st and last page?
Who the fuck does that gives us the context bruh. I wanna see if vegeta ssg is miraculously stronger then ssr black and how goku fucked up mafuba.
Also still no love for trunks
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>>154674707
Trunks doesn't deserve love
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>>154674649
No it isn't, the movies are Toei fleshing out the plot outline with their own details.
The manga has it's own continuity that Toriyama is heavily involved in now. He even stated it's "better that way" when Toyo adds his own ideas.
Finally, let's all not forget that Goku went SSG all by himself in the movie even after absorbing God Ki into base.
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>>154674465
>ssg is ONLY obtainable through the ritual
Say who? Not Shenlong, clearly.
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>>154674707
Trunks wasn't doing much at this point in the anime either (asspull aside).
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>>154674465
Nice headcanon
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>>154674707
This, wtf. WHERE'S THE LEAKS!??!
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>>154674707
>Also still no love for trunks
Trunks is merely a bystander in the manga. The gap is too big for him to do anything relevant besides being a solar flare merchant
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>>154674746
>Movie is written by Toriyama
>Manga is written by not-Toriyama but overseen by him
>Anime is written by not-Toriyama with only his outlines

fuck off. The word of the author trumps all you stupid spic.
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>>154674649
>Toriyama and Toei make a movie
>then Toriyama and his chosen successor retell what happen in their manga series

>movie version is canon above manga series
Nah, shut up.
>>
This thread is pure torture now. Anon only releases two pages, so I freak out in excitement everytime I see a black and white image posted, only to see it's a scan from a previous chapter

I can't go to sleep because I'm expecting anon to return with more leaks
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>>154674749
Still whis training does not give one god ki but we do know that the ritual makes one sayians turn ssg so its very likely that vegeta did the ritual anyway we going to find out once we got full leaks
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>>154674743
He deserves all the love.
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>>154674749
In my opinion the ritual pose for the anime was better
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>>154674707
No, it means Vegeta is strong enough to handle Rose with SSG, he won't waste his Blue power until it's necessary.
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https://youtu.be/TvU1p5rLBBE?t=30s
how is this line so fucking good?
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>>154674866
>Movie is written by Toriyama
Movie script was initially written by someone else that Toriyama changed.
The interview reveals there's plot elements that preexisted his intervention such as 6 saiyans coming together etc.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/bog-official-movie-guide-akira-toriyama/
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>>154674883
He got those pages from somewhere else.
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>>154674838
>solar flare merchant
Fucking kek
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I'M GOING TO STOP YOU BLACK! WITH MY NEW SSJ FORM!
If I were to name it... Yes.. Super Saiyajin Mint, I'M SO FUCKING FRESH RIGHT NOW

NOW DIEEEE HAAAAAAAAH!
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>>154674952
WHERE
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>>154674866
>The word of the author trumps all you stupid spic
Movies are Toei's products with Toriyama bare script. He is much more involved in the manga now as "the continuation of his story"
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>>154674905
whis training does not give one god ki
Again, say who? They don't want rely on other ones, they want to be strong by their own effort. Vegeta AND Goku training to go SSG at will with Whis and then unlocking SSGSS (via control SSG and SS) is more reasonable
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>>154674989
So in toriyama's vision, RoF's ending wasn't even meant to be shown.
got that.
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>>154674883
The worst thing of all is reading anon's dumb assumptions when we don't even have the whole chapter leaked yet.
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>>154674910
Mangafag here

I'm agree. Toyotaro is only following movie's pose, though
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>>154675047
No it's covered by the 3 chapter manga and movie.
It definitely wasn't meant to be turned into filler hell like the anime that's for sure.
Besides, how can you be so flabbergasted by Toriyama, the king of retcons?
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>>154675044
Nice headcanon
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>>154675052
Every single month we go through the same cycle.
>2-3 scans are leaked
>People freak out
>People instantly start bashing it over false assumptions
>The false assumptions get widespread
>Translation comes out and guess what, the manga is good!
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>>154674932
>Kiaoken
>What?
I know tfs gets a bad rap here but I can't help but giggle.
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>>154675047
I'm mad Toyotaro never did the whole story
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>>154675219
Come on anon...
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>>154675219
This is last month's cover tho
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>>154675219
>pic related taken from toyotaro's instagram of last month's issue
Anon.
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>>154675137
And it's always so annoying. God, this fanbase is terrible.
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>>154675246
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>>154675047
RoF isn't supposed to be part of DBS, anon. Not even BoG was. First arc created by Toriyama for the new series was Champa arc, but Toyotaro did a new version of BoG to establish manga is in a new continuity (no "Beyond God" form). Once established it, there's no point on retell RoF with SSG Goku instead base Goku fighting Freeza.
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>>154675308
Is that a fucking trap card with levels? What the fuck is yugioh now? I'm just getting the hang of pendulums, slow down.
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>>154675108
OK take your (You)
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>>154674123
Thats SSGSS
See
>>154670704
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>Sun is a Z brawler of the elite class. He was once thought to be the most weakest ever Saiyan until his transformation. He tried to go SSJ so hard that he exploded and turned into the Sun. All parts of his body were burned in the process except his arms and legs. Because of this he can still fight. He is so larger that that other planets actually get caught in his orbit. This is how he destroys planets. He had an epic battle with Goblu after Earth fell into Sun's orbit.
>Traits and Facts
>>Sun is the brightest star in ever.
>>Sun can be picked up by Goku and used as a spirit bomb.
>>Sun became a multimillionaire through Adsense.
>>Sun once wrote a mean blog entry about Goku and got sued for cyberbullying.
>>His favorite quote is "I'LL KILL YOU YOU PSYCOB**CH!"
>>It is a misconception that Sun's hair burnt during his accident. He decided to cut it.
>>Aarron's favorite color is 4.
Is there even a video game character that could even TOUCH Sun?
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Sun
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>>154675474
>>154674123
>- Isn't X just [headcanon]?
>+No, that's Y, see [headcanon]
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How fucking AWESOME would your life be if you got to wake up every morning and literally write the story of Dragon Ball with your sensei Toriyama Akira by your side?
Toyotaro is literally living the dream.
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>be me
>tired of toei's shit with the anime
>recommended the manga by some anons
>said to be several times better than the anime
>signmethefuckup.jpg
>gets around to reading it
>it's even worse than the anime
>rushed story
>shit choreography in fights
>too many "homages" to the old manga because the artist is a hack who lacks creativity
>bland characters
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>>154675654
I like to imagine Toyotaro and Toriyama go out for drinks and Toriyama treats him like the son he wish he had.
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>>154675690
Nice pasta
(You)/10
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>>154675690
>this bait pasta again
Stop please
It's enough already with 18fag
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>>154675735
The Shueisha team at Dragon Ball Room is confirmed to go out to drink together and it's part of Japanese business traditions, I bet that actually goes down.
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>>154675735
Nah, that's too much but if you read the interviews you can see how these two really are a good couple with some same tastes and shit.
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>>154675614
Dark Gohan could without even trying
>Dark Gohan Is Majin Goku's Son And Also A Half Saiyan . His Story Begins When His Father Majin Goku Fought Vegeta and after the fight Majin Goku Meets A Women Who Likes Him and They Had A Baby, and The Baby Was Dark Gohan. When He Was Born His Father Realized He Got Darkness From Himself Before He Met His Wife. So Over The Years He Tried To Convert His Son Into Good But It Was No Use He Was Still Evil So Dark Gohan Left. So Gohan Trained By Himself Until He Met A Person Named Broly . He Trained Under Him and Broly Became His Mentor and Thought Him The Ways of The Super Sayian. After A Few Years Goku Finally Decided To Look For His Son. He Found Him By Sensing His Power But Then When He Came Closer His Mentor Broly Came Towards Him And Punched Him Then They Started To Fight and Gohan Came Looking For Broly When He Saw His Dad Fighting Him.And In a Blink He Saw HIs Dad Defeat Broly and He Said To Himself Wow My Dad Is Strong. And He Went To His Dad But He Was Still Kinda Evil But He Could Control It Because Broly Taught Him To.
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>>154675814
>>154675735
>>154675654
Well shit, I gotta practice my drawing if I want to take over Hajime no Ippo then. We live in a world of infinite possibilities.
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>>154675735
Toriyama has like 3 sons you stupid shitnigger
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>>154675928
But they aren't Toyotaro tho.
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>>154675917
>We live in a world of infinite possibilities.
You don't live in Japan world, you're a filthy gaijin and you will never be part of their world.
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>>154675960
>You don't live in Japan world, you're a filthy gaijin and you will never be part of their world.
This
japanese arent as open minded as western cucks especially in the manga business
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>cucks on toyotaro's instagram comment section
This is what happens when your page is found by the fandom.
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>>154675960
That makes sense. Well if I can't make a fictional character punch people I can certainly do it myself.
>>
So if the reason Goku and Vegeta unfused was because of the earrings having their power used up because of his strength or whatever.

Why didn't Zamasu and Black split?
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>>154676047
I used to follow him back when he only had 137 followers and he responded to me. :3
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>>154676094
Their born into godhood? Who cares though?
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>>154676130
Source
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>>154675381
Traps that turn into monsters existed for ages, they just had the stats in the description instead.
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>>154676130
When did you ask?
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>>154676086
That's the spirit, anon!
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>>154676094
Reasons. Gowasu said a potara fusion between mortals only lasts 1 hour. The thing is at least Goku should be considered a god now, unless being a god in DB means being a kaioshin or GoD.
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>>154674573
Pretty simple isn't it? Goku already explained how it worked in RoF, Super Saiyan Blue is Super Saiyan using God Ki.

Goku is not using God Ki when he uses any Super Saiyan form except for Blue and God.
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>>154676169
Sorry, I mean WHAT did you ask?
>autism
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>>154676175
actual god =/= god ki user
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>>154675381
Ningen that's a fusion monster
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why cant you guys stop being babies and just like both i dont get it dragon ball threads are embarrassing
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>>154676161
Wait, I might be retarded because that could be a fusion card but the colour is fucked up.
>turn into monsters existed for ages, they just had the stats in the description instead.
I know, I never have a warrior deck without dimension reflector in it,
>>
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Evil_Goku_(Goku%27s_Counterpart)

Really makes you think.
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>>154676246
Every fucking board has this split flame war mentality stop making it sound its just here
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>>154676225
see>>154676256
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>>154676181
I'm talking about how the anime has it convoluted like depicting base form rivalling SSG. It was rare but it was a plot point supposedly when Goku was fighting toe to toe with the newly improved Freeza.
Besides that, it's been a mess trying to gauge how much boost he has really gotten when paired with SSJ2 or 3.
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>>154676293
>tfw you chill in the bnha and youjo senki threads where everybody loves both manga and anime.
It's relaxing.
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>>154673685
What? SSR Black only lasted two chapters?
That's a shame.
Black is one of the very few redeeming factors of DBS.
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Quick shit resume of the chapter :
>Goku and vegeta come back
>vegeta goes straight to black and notices he is in his base
>smirks
>black turns ssr - you want another ass whoopin?
>vegeta turn ssg this will suffice
>vegeta wins
>black-but how is this possible you're not even blue
>vegeta tells him about the negative side effect of ssgss
>goku on his side tries to catch zamasu with the mafuba bit fails miserably
>zamasu and black fuse
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>not even fucking DBH cares about Gogeta anymore
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>>154676506
Actual source or shut up
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>>154676213
He is the Super Saiyan God you fucking plebnigger
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>>154676506
I wonder what Trunks will contribute against pre-merged Zamasu.
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>>154670282
>person who creates the series and controls the base content isn't an authority on it

boy, you sure showed me anon. Thank you for letting me know that you are the authority
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>>154676506
Sounds like shit. Will this be the death knell for Toyotaro?
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>>154676538
He's a saiyan with god ki, which is called Super Saiyan God, but he's not a real god.
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>>154676544
Vegetto will appear and Trunks will use the opportunity to fusion dance with him.
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>>154676554
It belongs to the fans now.
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>>154676469
Arent you that faggot anon who boasted about his tiny biceps and claimed to be brazilian?
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>>154676506
Oh man Black fanboys would rage out if they made Black lose due to not knowing how the form works.

Though it wouldn't make sense. Black had a full day to rest before using SSB again, so he shouldn't be affected.
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>>154676571
No, with god ki it is SSGSS. They explicitly say he becomes a god in BoG, both the manga, anime and movie
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>>154676591
so Lava Goku confirmed?
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>>154676610
We dont know how long the delay is
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>>154676591
so that is why it's has been so shit
the fans can suck mike hawk
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>>154676649
They said successively. A full day of rest in between is not successive.
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>>154675381
It's a fusion
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>>154674325
>meme pic

go look up what a meme actually is before you use it. You can't just try to copy everyone else and expect to know how to use it right.

This is how people spot newfags.
>>
>>154676672
When you have sex your testosterone levels drop for certain amount of time and need 3/4 days of rest until your balls are refilled to max again of course you can ejaculate in succession but less and less will come out.
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>>154676721
>you now realise SSG ki is made up of the essence of the unborn.
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>>154676594
Ken Sama was the one boasting.
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>>154676721
Sex and masturbation is actually bad for your muscles
>>
Why does it matter that Vegeta can go ssg when he already has a transformation stronger than it
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>>154676853
conserving energy while staying useful
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>>154670168
Toyofags don't know the true role of Toyotaro in DBS and future projects
>Toriyama tired of drawing yet he wants to continue to put new stories for Dragon Ball
>Here, a young pathetic tracer that loves nothing but Dragon Ball
>In that way Toriyama still contributes stories while Toyotaro draws for him
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>>154670122
or June
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>>154676879
All great Jedi masters were also once a mere padawan.
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>>154676870
But he's been doing this all of Super, even if he has been jobbing most of the time.
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>>154676631
Because you can consider him "god" since his ki is godly, but he's not part of any pantheon
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>>154676916
This
Why didnt he used ssg against hit.
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>>154676934
They explicitly say he is a god, fuck off
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>>154669567
OK, So in the manga, SSG is the base God state and can be accessed any time provided goku and vegeta are in physical condition to do so. SSB is simply Using their inate SSJ transformation while in God mode.

Why didn't vegeta go into SSG until now?
Why did the anime skip this detail entirely and made it seem that they were unable to go into SSG?
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We converted geekdom
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>>154676955
Which doesn't contradict what I said.
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>>154670995
Kek, so you have noa rgument to say
>>154671046
>His battles flow better than the ones of most manga running on the current Shounen Jump.
Oh anon...
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>>154676974
>Why did the anime skip this detail entirely and made it seem that they were unable to go into SSG?

Different continuities. Anime is based on the previous one (movies') so their base forms are their god forms.
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>>154676974
>Why did the anime skip this detail entirely and made it seem that they were unable to go into SSG?
Toriyama was unclear on this plot point because he earlier wrote that they don't need to go into SSG form anymore.
This later got elaborated into two different directions for the two mediums.
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>>154676976
>cake
Fatfuck mentality right their
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>>154676934
Actually, it's possible SSG is part of the saiyan's own pantheon, much like SSJ itself is a legend.
>>
So Geekdom lurks these threads, since these threads are where the scans originated.
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>>154677038
>Revival of F manga
>canon
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>>154677103
Everybody who is a real dragon ball fan on the internet lurks here.
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>>154677108
Say who?
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>>154677103
Nope he got it from the original source : twitter
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>>154671841
Its great but it was cucked by SBB thanks to RoF and Toriyama not giving a fuck about past tecniques
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>>154677078
>saiyan's own pantheon
saiyan religion pantheon =/= ACTUAL pantheon
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>>154677127
>Everybody who is a real dragon ball fan on the internet lurks here.
>Nigger and spics containment
>real dragon ball fan
Chose one
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>>154677132
Twitter wasn't the original source. It was posted here first, then anons posted the 2 scans on twitter

Nobody knows where that anon got those 2 scans from, they're crazy early
>>
Goku smirking, doing a backflip and going SSB making everyone shit their pants is honestly one of the best moments in the anime for me. Will goku ever get his shit slap or will he continue getting more and more smug until he just turns into an evil prick?
>>
>>154677168
Why do people force /pol/ memes here
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>"You should rejoice that you are able to look upon this form, ningen. This is the birth of the sole god in all the universes...Zamasu."

That's what Zamasu says in the manga after he fuses.
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>>154672323
Honestly it shows the weak parts on Toriyama base script
Neither modern Toei nor a fan with zero creativity like Toyotaro can fix that
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>>154677274
agreed.
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>>154677171
Look at the time it was posted on twitter.
(Europe)
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>>154677303
Which is first?
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>>154677335
Yes they had the leaks at 5pm yesterday euro time
>>
hi
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>>154669567
New thread
>>154677317
>>154677317
>>154677317
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>>154677160
what do you mean actual pantheon?

just because zeno is nigh omnipotent doesn't mean his pantheon is the universal pantheon everyone believes in. Humans only believe in kamisama watching over them and then when they die they go to king yama for judgement. They don't know who beerus is, who zeno is.

Pantheons are a ningen invention, not something zeno and the angels have control over. And considering that ningens can attain power to rival these so called Gods, i'm betting these deities and ningens are equals, just that the deities have a headstart on the power scale.
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>>154677130
>Toei Yardrats in Friezas Soldiers
>Garlic Jr. race in Frieza Soldiers
>Gregory appears on King Kai's planet

BTFO
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>>154677370
>yesterday euro time
But isn't today the 16th?
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>>154673240
>The anime phased out SSG too quick for fucking shenanigans.
More like Toryama phased out SSG when he wrote RoF
There's a reason SSB stills exists in both manga and anime while SSG just exists in Toyotaro take on the story
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>>154677430
Its already 6 am in europe also the 17th
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>>154670807
I watched the anime, went back and read the manga. Manga is far superior.
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>>154677532
But the screenshot only has the language as reference, it doesn't actually have the timezone written.
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>>154677578
The time the tweet was posted has a time and a date and it was send before it even leaked on 4chan
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>>154677416
What the fuck are you talking about, kid?
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>>154677408
I'm talking about the actual gods who rule the universe. SSG isn't part of those gods, is just a glorified transformation as "Kami" is a glorified guardian of Earth
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>>154675360
>Beliving this
Toyotaro didn't adapted RoF plot because he already made the movie adaption. Unlike BoG where such thing didn't existed so he added the new scenes that acted as a sort of prologue for BoG then adapted the movie on its own way
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>>154675892

Dammit I hate and love these so much...
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>>154675956
Of course, fortunately for Toriyama they aren't Toyotaro
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>>154676915
And not all the padawans became great jedi masters
Don't delude yourself anon, there are better artists and tracers than Toyotaro, see dragongarowlee
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>>154677971
>see dragongarowlee
>the biggest tracer
top kek, see >>154673832
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>>154677493
Except SSG exist as "Beyond God". It's exactly the same thing but SSG isn't confusing because you know when they are using god tier power and their regular SS forms aren't god power fuelled
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>>154676366
Just consider it like this, Goku w/o God Ki is not much stronger than Goku was before the ritual and he has trained mostly his God Ki since then so his God Base and SSB forms are thousands of times stronger than that of his Non-God forms.
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>>154678100
"Beyond God" is something pretty much exclusive to the movie. It was supposed to replace SSJ1, 2 and 3 according to Toriyama, and now look what Super does: there are SSJ1 and 2 every single episode.
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>>154676510
Gogeta is for the GT side of things, like SSJ4.
Heroes switched between Super and GT stuff.

GT gets Gogeta and Super gets Vegito.
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>>154672903
Why is SSJ even a thing when you have SSJ2/3?
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>>154670925
Dank meme bro.
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