This is objectively the best One Piece villain.

CP9 was better

>>154538632
Arlong

>>154538656
Nah. Lucci had a better fight, but he wasn't a better villain.

>>154538693
Kek.

Bon Clay. Is it already to call him a villiang though?

>>154538632
He's just another Moriah who got New World PTSD

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Ahem...

>>154538778
>Moriah
I keep forgetting about that guy

Buggy, come on.

>>154538878
>blocks your path

>>154538991
>Buggy
>Villain

>>154538632
Where the hell did he get that scar anyway.

>>154538743
Lucci was one of the few villains who really wanted Luffy dead though. Most of them just thought of Luffy as a minor nuisance to their plans, and after they left him to die they didn't care anymore.
Lucci was also one of the few villains who didn't depend on his DF to fight. He was already a very skilled killer on his own.

>>154540809
That was the last best fight before doflamingo.

I dunno why people haven't mentioned him yet like he's lame or something. He was s pretty crazy formidable opponent who basically had lots of power and control in the world compared to crocodile. He was honestly no completely pushover; he was pretty crazy powerful really.

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Hes not even close to Doflamingo who is by far the most fleshed out and best character in that entire series. Pity that his crew was complete dog shit, even when compared to Baroque Works who put up way more of a fight. Dressrosa was just a badly written arc but that doesnt change anything about the fact that the arcs so called "villain" will probably not be topped by anything in One Piece. Sure as hell doesnt look like Big Mom or Kaido will ever get enough actual backstory and general involvement to ever make them even remotely as interesting.

>>154543491
> Pity that his crew was complete dog shit
You didn't like Sugar, anon?

>>154543491
>haven't seen the anime in years
>can barely remember what main cast sounds like
>somehow perfectly remember Doflamingo's laugh
>every doffy picture reminds me of it

Most memorable laugh alongside Shu~rorororo.

>>154538632
This post really ZEHAHAHA'd my DREAMS

>>154538632
>this is objectively the least stinky pile of turd

>>154538632
That's not Kuro

>>154538632
Spandam was better as a character, but damn if Crocodile wasn't good. All those close defeats.

>>154538930
Because he was completely forgettable. He did virtually nothing other than wake and pilot Oz for a short while.

>>154543491
Doflamingo wasn't fleshed out at all, he was just inexplicably an asshole even before any of the bad shit happened. The only one who was fleshed out was his brother.

>>154544447
It's Kuro 2.0.

>>154538632
>>154538693
>>154538743
>>154538778
>>154538878
Magellan you fucking plebs

>>154545202
He's not a villain, he was just doing his job.

>>154543920
Sugar should have had a bunch of elderly fat men in suits as her subordinates, whom she would have called her daddies.

>>154545202
It's this. Magellan btfo'd BB's entire crew and Luffy.

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>>154544196
Someone called?

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>All this plebs

>>154543491
Literally just empty hype.

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where are my bros?

>>154539824
if i had to guess i'd say whitebeard

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Akainu, of course. The justice.

>>154545202
>Magellan
>Villain

>>154549595
makes sense why he'd have a grudge on him

>>154549795
ODA, WHERE'S MY NIGGA ZOLO?

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>>154543491
This. Even if you thought Dressrosa was a drawn out piece of shit (it was,) Doffy was and is the best villain One Piece has ever seen.

He was everything Crocodile aspired to be - and won. Years before the series even starts.
He manipulated not just a whole country, but the entire world and World Government into loving him.
We STILL don't know the "secret" that allowed him to freely manipulate the upper echelons of the untouchables. Doffy won, and we watched him during his victory lap.

Plus, the sheer hatred he inspired through his puppetry tactics was beautiful.

>>154550477
Way to spoil the moment by adding as many !!! as possible in Doffy's solemn remarks

I'm guessing Mangastream though Viz isn't innocent either

>>154550477
Crocodile had a fairly well thought out plan with lots of insurances, meanwhile Doflamingo had the most retarded strategy ever that worked because no one in the country could use more than one braincell. That any of his schemes ever succeeded just boils down to the fact he knows the secret and other people being dumb.

>>154546989
Caesar is fucking great. I really hope he becomes part of the crew.

>>154549795
I fucking love characters like Akainu.

>>154551054
I doubt it.
Luffy's the one who decides who joins the crew, and its fairly clear Caesar is in his eyes the absolute worst type of individual.
He'd have to pull some serious redemption shit in order to even have a chance to get on.

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>>154549795
>Akainu
>Villain

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>>154550773
Doffy also relied on a character with a power that's too silly and too powerful.

>>154551330
Not a villain per say, but he is an asshole.

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>>154545202
>villain

>>154551483
>>154551330
At least the pirates don't hide behind JUSTICE, they just admit they're assholes.

>>154538930
What a shitty arc

>>154551546
>Magellan
>Asshole
The dude was doing his job, literally did nothing wrong

>>154551546
Don't lump me with the Akainu sucker
The only thing Magellan has ever done is his job

>>154543491
He was just Cocrodile 2.0

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>>154551608
>Thriller Bark
>Shitty

>>154551631
>>154551664
Pretty much everyone that worked in Impel Down was an asshole. It's one thing to keep dangerous pirates locked up, it's another when you spend all day torturing them.

>>154551747
Magellan didn't though

>>154551747
>Horrible and irremediable people gets tortured
>This is somehow a bad thing

>>154551773
He ran the place so it all falls at his feet.

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>>154538632
*teleports behind you*

>>154538632
you never explained why you think he is objectively the best

top 10 best villains from top to bottom:
>crocodile
>blackbeard
>doflamingo
>rob lucci
>enel
>akainu
>shiki
>zephyr
>arlong
>celestial dragons

prove me wrong

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>>154552563
*blocks your attack*

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>>154538778
Nah dude, Moria was just another Crocodile.
Big difference

>>154552995
>Shiki
>Zephyr
There you go, you just proved yourself wrong.

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Why is he so perfect?

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No contest.

>>154553931
He's a big guy

>>154538632
He's the best major arc villain.
I like some of the goofier villains a lot, like Buggy and Foxy, but they're not really filling the same narrative roles as guys like Enel or Crocodile and hardly qualify as serious antagonists. Teach is one of the most interesting characters in the series but he hasn't really show his stuff yet, and it's hard to fairly rate someone purely on the speculation and hype surrounding them.

Lucci and Akainu are boring motherfuckers though, no idea why they're so popular.

>>154553959
Will big Croc join the Straw Hat crew?

>>154543491
>Pity that his crew was complete dog shit, even when compared to Baroque Works who put up way more of a fight.

Which is a big miss. A perfect opportunity for the whole straw hat crew to have had an intense 1v1 fight against the executives like they've had with BW and CP9, but no instead most of them had fights with literally who characters, who I didn't give a flying toss about. The only executive fight that I enjoyed was Franky vs Senor Pink.

>>154554044
The Fleet are pretty obviously going to be major characters in the future. Dressrosa was a way to introduce and tease them, so it served that purpose well. Bartolomeo and Don Sai's fights in particular were pretty enjoyable.

Kyros' battle with Diamante was such a god damn waste of time though, and Robin should have fought Trebol instead of that weird backseat fighting thing he did with Doflamingo.

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>>154551747
was Magellan ever seen torturing anyone?
Shiryu was the sadistic cunt and he even jailed him for it
(i'm not 100% sure of what i'm saying tho, i need a reread)

plus he had by far the best sidekick of the series

>>154554126
Magellan did casually poison some prisoners, but they were Level 6 guys on death row that he had permission to execute at any time.

It's more about the fact he ran the prison and casually allowed so much torture to happen. The only floor that's not hell on Earth was Level 6, oddly enough.

>Tfw One Piece turned into shit after timeskip
Timeskips are a mistake

>>154551747
If they didnt want to end up tortured in pseudo-hell then maybe they shouldn't have been murderous thieving psychopaths
Fuck outta here with your "M-muh honorable pirates" bullshit

>>154554268
Punk Hazard was decent if a little long. Zou and Whole Cake Island have been great.
Fishman Island and Dressrosa had a bundle of issues though.

>>154554209
but the torture is provided by the prison design itself (with the needles, the heat, the cold, etc) it's not like he designed it or had the power to change things
not like he even thought there was anything to change, he trusted the WG 100%, but still i wouldn't hold him responsible for the torturing going on in ID

>>154554209
Probably because nobody's supposed to know level 6 exists and can't have any torture equipment therefore.
Impel Down is waaaaay to strict a place to not keep tabs on exactly what goes in and what comes out, what's being used, what's in storage, etc.
Any torture equipment would have to be recorded, but because level 6 is secret it couldn't show where it was located, and thus have to be listed as "missing", and I can't imagine the panic that would ensue if even so much as a fork went missing at someplace with as high a rep to keep as Impel Down.

Not to mention anybody worthy of being placed there probably wouldn't be fazed much by torture equipment, so even if it was possible to get torture equipment in there unnoticed it would hardly have any effect. The risk would simply be too great for very little payoff.

On another note, the prisoners above are tortured so that people can feel safe, what's the point of torturing what they can't see or even know about then?

>>154554422
>I can't imagine the panic that would ensue if even so much as a fork went missing at someplace with as high a rep to keep as Impel Down.

Level 5.5 shows that stuff goes missing all the time.

>>154553915
Zephyr did nothing wrong

>>154554422
>>154554512
What this guy said. So much stuff went missing the people that worked at Impel Down just chalked it up to stuff being stolen by actual demons, or ghosts or something like that I can't remember exactly what. Even now with Bon running level 5.5 they still have no idea it exist.

Impel Down is effective (mostly) at monitoring what comes in and what comes out. As to what happens inside, they are largely careless. Levels 1 and 2 are good examples of this. They didn't even realize Buggy was cheating the system of poison needles thanks to his ability, and the fact that level 2 prisoners don't have to stay in their cells because of the beast means someone who has a low bounty but is really a big threat (ie; Blackbeard) can simply be tossed onto level 2 and then beat the shit out of the animals and make his escape.

In short, Impel Down is really a horribly run prison because of how unorganized they really are. Should have just been sea stone cuffs for all, and maybe a dip every now and then in boiling water to keep the prisoners in line.

>>154554646
Impel Downs given the luxury of assuming its inescapable because of the calm belt and gates of justice. No one prisoner can hope to get past that alone, Shiki aside.

But once they let the scenario snowball into a prison-wise riot thanks to their lack of proper surveillance, complete with Fishmen and various ability users, it became a whole different story. It's something they should have naturally been prepared for but they never even conceived it as possible.

>>154554646
They believed they were actually being demoned away into real hell.

The level 2 prisoners were confined, they just refused to leave their cells even when provided the keys because of the monsters on the floor.

Presumably CoO can help them sort prisoners with anomalous strength into their proper jail cells.

>>154553915
except both of those movies are written by oda and fit within one piece's story line

even if you don't consider them canon that doesn't change the fact that they're better written villains if you don't watch the movies because they aren't canon then its your loss, those movies are the shit

>>154555017
Oda didn't write Film Z.
He did conceive Zephyr's character though.

>>154554324
>punk hazard
>decent

>>154554268
amen

>>154554422
impel down is less "modern high security facility" and more "brazilian prison pit"

as long as nobody gets out they really don't give a shit

>>154555104
Punk Hazard had like 10 too many chapters of pointless running in the facility, but the rest of it is perfectly fine. Good cast of antagonists, Law's reintroduction is strong, the setting was memorable, the bodyswapping and Kinemon antics were pretty amusing, good character moments for Chopper and Nami.

Not that it's a great arc or anything, it definitely has problems, but if you're reading it in a volume format its problems aren't as damning as they were reading it serially. The hate for it is excessive.

Who else liked his 4kids dub voice?

>>154545202
Magellan is an antagonist, not a villain.

>>154554044
>but no instead most of them had fights with literally who characters, who I didn't give a flying toss
The point of the arc passed over your head

>>154551054
Gangster Gastino is going to join.

>>154555324
I like the 4kids opening
Yohoho he took a bite of gum-gum

>>154554016
Final Arc when Spiders Cafe teams up with Straw Hat Fleet

>>154555324

If there was anything redeemable about the 4kids dub of One Piece, it was Crocodile's VA.

>>154555324
It's the same as Zoro's 4kids dub. They're the only voices that are tolerable to listen to and actually suit the characters, but it's a shame they had terrible voice directors to work with and given awful lines to read.

>>154554268
The manga is still enjoyable. Can't say the same about the anime.

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>>154554268
>Implying
I'm having tons of fun in WCI, Bege-Luffy-gastino alliance is one of the best things that happened in this manga

>>154554268

Fishman Island was shit

Punk Hazard had some good stuff bogged down by a LOT of shit

Dressrosa was good but holy shit was it too long

Zou and the current arc are great so far.

>>154555748
Agree, the timeskip is graduably getting better

>>154555714
Man, Pedro's looking HOT

Which is the most powerful paramencia?

>>154555905
The Gura-Gura i though that was stated in the manga

>>154555905
Doku Doku, I figure

>>154555905
Quake Quake

>>154555905

THERE ARE NO POWERFUL FRUITS ONLY POWERFUL USERS XD

Seriously, though, either Whitebeard's or Magellan's, although I've always been fond of the versatility of Doffy's.

>>154555996
Magellan's is Logia I thought.

>>154556023
Magellan can't turn into poison. He just coats himself in it like Mr. 3.

>>154555905
Sugars

Even if you are completely incompetent you can put together a bunch of toys to make fighters that can give Cavendish trouble.

>>154556056
Don't forget that it has eternal youth as a casual side effect.
Sugars fruit is the biggest plot device.

Who is your favorite member of Big Mom's pirate crew?

>>154556056
I'll be honest the memory erasing aspect is by far the more terrifying part of her ability.
Think about it, she could make everyone forget one of the fucking Yonkou ever existed if she just touched them.

>>154556181
Smoothie
I wish she would juice my dick

>>154556181
I really like Mont-d'Or and Brulee.

Amande, Diesel and Randolph have fantastic designs but they're non-entities. None of the sweet commanders have been impressive yet, though I guess we haven't seen Smoothie fight.

>>154556181

That delinquent looking kid who showed up like 10 chapters ago

>>154556254
It is, but even if you don't have any grand ambitions the fruit basically makes you win at life.

>>154555905
>>154555953
>>154555962
>>154555966
>>154555996
>>154556056

I'd make the case that Paw-Paw is the best paramecia, it's powerful and versatile as fuck.

>>154556181
Mont d'Or and Tamago

>>154555905
The most destructive is Gura Gura fruit.

The most versatile is either Paw Paw or Ito Ito.

The most broken is Hobi Hobi.

>>154556458
I don't get the fruits that are based on man-made shit like toys or sweets.
Feels like they should be a bit more primal than that considering they're naturally occurring fruits.

>>154556527
plato was right

>>154556527
Maybe Devil Fruits are the reason those things exist?

>>154543491
Why didn't he make a smaller bird cage around Luffy???

>>154538632
Agreed. He was never equalled. Same for his seiyu's performance. DAT baritone voice.

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>>154543491
But they were a nice couple. They probably fucked once or twice when Crocodile was still a woman.

>>154557127
>when Crocodile was still a woman.
I completely forgot about Ivankov talking about that "secret".
If Croc being genderbent was horrific enough to him to shut him up and make him cooperate with his worst enemy that's actually hilarious.
Imagine if Mr. 2 ever found that out while Baroque works was still a thing.

>>154557459
I think the reason why Mister 2 never left 'his' side was because he knew.

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Blackbeard is great. I want to join his crew and sail around being a pirate.

>>154548438
He said best. Not worst.

>>154557127
Dofla's pissed off to see クロ子still obsessed by Shirohige plus refusing to join him was hilarious. Maybe he should have brought flowers if he wanted that bad to propose.

>>154557689
Watch your mouth! Skypiea was a 10/10 arc!

>>154557689
how is he worst he succeeded in his plan he is on the moon

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>>154557127
She was my first and only waifu.

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>>154557641
I love the design of his crew, one of my favourites for sure

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>>154557831
Outstanding taste.

>>154557635
So the question is was Crocodile originally a girl before he got Ivankov to turn him willing or no into a guy or was he a guy, then pissed off Ivankov, got turned into a woman, and had to go take drastic measures to change back?

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>>154538632
That's not Hody.

>>154558089
literaly Arlong on steroid

>>154558089
Hody is worst villain.

>>154558285
You know, there have been so many villains in One Piece that I'm sure there must have been a worse villain than Hody, but damned if I can think of one off hand.

>>154558341
I'd put Akainu as a contender.
His shining moment is one of the weakest plot scenes ever made and in general he's just an asshole with no real reason or redeeming qualities outside the norm of marines vs pirates.

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>>154558569
>Akainu
>villain

>>154558569
>he's just an asshole with no real reason
I though he made his reason pretty clear, pirates are scum and should be eradicated

>>154538632
One Piece is objectively a shitty series.

>>154558569
He hasn't been fleshed out yet, Oda's definitely planned at least some nuances to him.

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>>154558825

>>154538632
Agreed. He was great.

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>>154538632
This anime is weeb trash

>>154558202
>>154558285
Hody is lierally the exact opposite of Arlong.
Arlong was part of a chain of racism and hatred.
The humans feared him and hated him, so he feared and hated them back, feeling himself with a belief of his own racial superiority to justify his hate.

Hody, in the other hand, saw that chain and used it achieve his objectives. He fanned the fire while Arlong simply basked in it.

Fisherman Island is underrated

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>>154558726
Sup Buggy.

>>154559542
The best part of FI is Tigers backstory
>those parallels between Koala's and Nami's relationship with Arlong

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>>154538656
Seconding the CP9. Dark Justice and a shadowy bureau of not-CIA was such a cool concept.

>>154555748
Haven't made it to Zou yet, but one thing I've noticed about the timeskip is that its become less crew and character focused. CP9 was about Robin, Arlong was about Nami, Alabasta was about Vivi who the audience had time to grow attached to as a crew member for multiple arcs. Punk Hazard and Fishman Island? Nothing. The new Sanji-centered arc brought back my interest in One Piece.

I just want Croco's voice, just it.

>>154556181
Opera.

>>154559542
>so he feared and hated them back

Arlong did not fear the humans or hate them at all.
He thought himself better than them and wanted to enslave a village and the whole East Blue

>>154557782
it was but Enel was the least interesting antagonist.
He was just "I'm a god, I will destroy everything" That's all he was, an evil mindless antagonist. Not saying it's a bad thing because his sheer madness was what made Skypea great because it put the stakes so high.
My only complaint about Skypea was that absolutely no one died (minus the nameless priest who was obliterated in front of Nami at the begining) despite the risks in the whole arc

>>154549795
>The justice.

>Het let me just burn a ship filled with innocent civilians just in case a person that can read poneglyphs is on board
>even though our buster call was organized so that only civilians having nothing to do with the archaeologists to be safely evacuated in the ship

Akainu's some horse shit

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>>154551330
>Akainu
>not a villain

>>154552563
he was shit

>>154538632
Hancock is the best Villain

>>154542754
>last best fight before doflamingo
>implying

>>154551054
Not happening, he already joined Capone.

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>>154564073
He was great. Along with Arlong he helped to codify what a "real pirate," what Nami hated pirates for, was in contrast to Luffys harmless crew.

>Me beaten by a PRETEND pirate?

He's great, I love him. Too bad it seems like there's not much in the way of good merch of him, though.

Best character of the manga.

>>154555324
Plenty of the voices for the 4kids were fine. It's just the terrible dialogue those voices had to read.

I still find myself sometimes reading Sanjis lines with a brooklyn accent.

>>154563034
It takes a real hero to do what's right for the world, even if it makes you hated.

>>154545202
but he is objectively the good guy. He bares no ill will towards citizens only criminals.

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>>154538632
>underpowered jobber
>best

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since one piece is mostly about water

why was there never a guy like crocodile except who can turn into water?

>>154554361
You know they did go out of their way to force people to walk on needles and they did keep those fires on lvl 4 going and they did do all those other tortures you failed to mention for whatever reason.
Face it, Magellan was a piece of shit so big he spend most of his time on the can because he knew he belonged there.

>>154538632
>some weakass faggot who had a logia type power but somehwo lost to someone who had no haki
>best one piece villain

>>154559121
Then why is it so popular worldwide?

>>154569058
Because one of the primary concepts introduced with devil fruits was a weakness related to water.

>>154569197
seawater, that is. Rain doesn't render characters useless.

>>154569197
It's seawater. If normal water could harm them, then they would already be dead if they're not drinking water.

>>154562966
And yet the ship almost did have a little girl that could do just that, and who knows there could have been some archeologists that were at home when it all happened so they could easily have followed the civilians to the ship. The whole operation was bullshit anyway and most likely than not killing everyone was the command from the start.

>>154564073
you're shit

>>154548438
Best villain right here. Would have been on par still to this day in the series if he didn't encounter his one weakness.

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>>154557459
>>154557127
indiscernible gender with the childhood picture and lack of full face picture in flashback confirms female status.

>>154557895
good taste, anon