Where were you when Baba got BTFO?
>Sorey and kittybeard fight in vulcano crater
>Maotelus is there too for reasons getting corrupted like in the game >the fight get so intense they awake and set Velvet free again
Right after the Velvet x Phi /ss/ doujins.
Not giving a fuck and enjoying the pretty Ufotable show
Shallow? Well, yes. But I think something must be good if the anime just flopped and didn't lead to murder and terrorism threats like the game.
I mean, I've never watched recent Ufo stuff for the plot. I've watched it for how good it looks,
Given how often I read complaints about dropped storylines and character interpretations from the game here I'm pretty sure there are some obsessive Zestyfags in these threads.
What a fucking trainwreck. Might as well bring Velvet back at this point, otherwise what's even the point of mentioning her in the first place? At least it'd make the season finale entertaining.
Why would fujoshits be mad when they left the thread after first cour's flop? There hasn't been annoying homoposting in forever either.
The anime is just shit, m8. Only Dipshitfags and secondaries are defending it. They shafted best girl Edna's smug for a boring shit heroine and the rest of the plot collapsed.
Zestiria wasn't great but it at least had some decent skits. Anime makes it so unrecognizable, it's shit as a standalone AND adaptation. It's impressive.
Alishas already 10/10 design doubled this episode.
> Lailah not punny
> Edna not smug
> Sorey not anything
> Huge story focus on boring princess
> Huge story focus on producer waifu.
> We solving everything with fire now
> Purifying dragons
When did literally everything go so wrong?
>implying Sorey was anything at all even in the game
He was as generic as you could get for a JRPG protagonist and pulling that off in a Tales game of all things is a fucking feat.
So, what the fuck is supposed to be his role in the story after all?
Call me old-fashioned, but I'm always a fan of the upgraded design of characters whenever they get a new super power. Especially when they look more godlike-ish.
Just as long as its kept to a very bare minimum though. Unlike most shounen, which just power up every two weeks in some dumbass fashion.
How can she be so perfect?
Will we get an Alisha end? I hope so.
To be fair, their animation isn't all that. ToZ the X isn't that well animated, more than 90% of what you see on the screen is CGI.
This show really proves that Ufo's best time is over. KnK will never come back again, the majority of the team that made Fate Zero good has left the studio. We've gotten to the point that, after God Eater and ToZ, when Ufo announces a show you beter prepare to be let down
I wonder if Lunarre wasn't originally supposed to be a way to prove that Hellions weren't mindless beasts and all the plot threads about that got dropped due to the bullshit going on during production.
After God Eater my faith in them making a good Heaven's Feel anime/ova/movie
what is it going to be again?is thin.
I'll have to go read through it again afterwards to wash away the disappointment.
He had to set aside his personal goals for more important things. He might have had a good character arc and development if Zesteria had actually brought this up, but in the end it was more like he completely forgot about them. Even Rays managed to make Sorey's chapter about this.
I dislike KyoAni after 2010 because it's all moe and filters. The only studio to use CGI good until this day is Khara, prove me wrong. Also CGI is not animation, hence why Ufo is getting shit on these days
>velvet is the new top tier waifu/onee-san apparently
A Lord of Calamity is prime wife material. How did it come to this?
Tell me this isn't an African Rhino in the wild, animated by Ufo. You're lying
>just wanted recognition
>finally does something useful
>no one will ever know
You know, this might have been nice if he didn't spend the rest of the show being a giggling nutjob jerking off to chaos.
the problem is it looks fake. Remember the first episode of Toz were Sorey is looking at the ruins? It looked like he was floating. All the cities aren't even animated, it's all fake. Overall the CGI is overly present, and it doens't add to the viewing experience
Wait a minute, did Alisha really armatized? with who? Anyway, I call this bullshit. Somehow the anime managed to be even worse than the game and here I thought I could give it a chance.
>inb4 shut up Baba
I'm not Baba dumbtards, stop with your paranoia.
Now I'm back to /v/.
Yeah Sorey actually brings up the fact that Sorey's putting his dreams on hold multiple times. For instance when Sorey waifufags Mikleo and he pisses off. He tells Lailah what his dream was and that he didn't want to force Mikleo to follow him.
You check it yourself, these are Zero character designers
One of them is even working as key animator on Zesteria.
Am I remembering right about this guy?
He like kills the guys Rose's group and they fight him and kill him at night
I can't decide if Alisha in an office lady skirt is hot or silly.
He doesn't kill anyone and survives and fucks off to do some ominous cackle at the end of the DLC that leads nowhere.
Lunarre was just as pointless in the game as he was in the anime.
>best seraph and best human girl armatize into one goddess
Thank you, based Ufo.
Your tears are delicious.
>Rose wants to turn Alisha into the perfect wife
Baba wants to suck his own cock.
>He wants to make a straight-forward fantasy RPG, by going back to the roots of fantasy and it is something he’s currently designing. A world that features the likes from Norse mythology, dwarves, elves, and all kinds of different races.
>The “Baba-esque” sense you see in the growth of characters and strong messages, which we’ve all seen in the Tales of series, is something he doesn’t want to change.
They had the choice to go to Rayfalke and fight him but decided to go deal with Heldalf first. Considering there are only 2 episodes left I doubt we'll get something besides a still shot during the epilogue while the ending plays.
How'd he get BTFO when they made her a complete retard in the anime? Like I can't even remember another moralfag character who would get herself and other people killed just so they don't kill.
He's a cuck.
All the guys in Berseria were pretty cool, amazing that even the little boy was top tier.
But Rose hit the jackpot. She got an actual story and character development she never had, half of a season of screentime, still got her Armatus and scored a crown princess as her girlfriend.
She's a winner.
Why is the Lord of Calamity such a degenerate?
>had no qualms looking at Phi's naked body that time they got body swapped.
I love her kamui outfit. Can't wait until she gets more fanart of her form
No baba here, just your regular ol' /u/fag
Why not pick the superior couple?
I'm pretty sure they can all get along.
There have been small changes all around but the biggest diversion I'd say it's after the battle in Glaivend Basin.
They fought Tiamat in Ladylake instead, Maltran might not be a Hellion, Dezel and Mayvin are not dead, the temples and Iris Gems aren't a thing, Symmone is now a dragon, Alisha+Edna and Rose+Dezel Kamui and it's up in the air if Eizen will be saved and Sorey goes to sleep.
How do you think this guy fucks?
I bet it's tender and full of loving emotion
Lord of Calamity is a title that is passed down from generation to generation.
Play Berseria. The Abyss named Velvet The Lord of Calamity to make her public enemy #1 and put a face to every bad thing that happens. She rolled with that nickname and helped spread it so people would stay away from her. Later on they named every big bad the same on purpose.
I really hope Komatsu will not feature in this April 30th BD event. Her character a shit in the game and made even shittier in the anime by becoming Alisha's lap dog. It would've have been easier to not include Rose from the start and everyone could worship Alisha without feeling awkward.
Looks like "is this picture real or fake" real freak woman with the freakishly skinny midsection
Also as a real leg man her legs are bland as fuck
Now she has a nice looking leg, just look at that calf, and delicious tomboy proportions
To be fair, by that point she'd already set fire to Oscar's face, set fire to a city, killed every living thing at an Abbey fortress, and inadvertently made another city fall to Malevolence.
Why didn't you protect his smile?
Don't forget fucking over everyone in Titania. Unless that's what you mean by "an Abbey fortress." If you're talking about Vortigern with that, she didn't do much except blow open the gates and a ship up.
The reason why every account of her was screwed up was pretty good, if I remember right,
the Bloodwings were intentionally spreading misinformation.
Did sorey inherited Lailah's thicc thighs?
I'm pretty sure most Rosefags would rather the game be like the anime just so their waifu wouldn't have gotten all the hate. I bet Kamui Rose would have a figure if the game followed a story similar to the anime.
I was wondering when he'd actually do something.
The anime was created to spite game Rose. No good business would come out if it's done out of spite. Case in point, Alisha became the Mary Sue and the story is terrible, plus the BDs are selling like shits. I guess Alishafags are still happy with her getting all the love and Kamui and all.
It's obvious Edna is the fujos favorite but it's still amazing Rose can sell more than Alisha despite the former became the poster girl for everything wrong on Zestiria and the Japanese videogame industry in general. Probably not that Rose is liked but Alisha is so goddamn boring after the dust settle down
It's not too surprising if you think about it, design wise Edna hits on all the right spots or them, doesn't breach her role and piss people off. It's hard to truly tell if people even still hate Rose anymore considering how she basically trumps Alisha in the merchandise department and she has had two well received retellings thus far where people reacted more positively to her character. I remember Rose getting a lot of hate for her design being too plain. Alisha on the other hand seems popular but all her merchandise thus far has flopped, it could be because she was never truly popular to begin with but only seemed that way because of the memetic obsession of her fans, or that people started to become neutral or even disliked her later on because like you said hey realized that she's boring.
The game was a financial success the only thing it flopped in was it's reputation. And even then the problems aren't about Alisha despite what Alishafags claim, the real problem with Zestiria's story was Rose never getting called out for her bullshit and then stealing the spotlight from Sorey. Plus the characters weren't ever allowed to grow because of it.
Then the problem with the equipment system, camera and gameplay, plus the skits being locked to inns instead of happening through out the journey.
Plus the real controversy the buggy final battle that made the game unplayable.
If Rose wasn't a sociopath, the gameplay was fun, the camera just fine, and the other characters allowed to have character development then you it wouldn't hear anything about Alisha.
Based off of what? The only Zestiria adaptation that sold well AND was well received was the manga. The anime despite the Alisha pandering or rather because of the Alisha pandering is a flop. And even then I think that at this point in time Bamco would rather wash their hands clean of Alisha and Rose.
Hahahaha this is bananas
This proves Baba won't be touching the franchise never fucking again.
Feels good man
Apparently so, but the people that Bamco was hoping to fuck out of more money by selling the entire character as add on and treat her as a source of revenue for the game(along with it being horribly written, horrid gameplay, much of the game being cut out and resold to the audinece and it being 250% gay in every single way)backfired huge and alienated basically all of the audience.
The only people left are the retards who buy into the bullshit about THE VA FOR ROSE IS BABA'S FUCK SLUT ITS HIS AND HER FAULT
And even going so far as to throw the va for rose under the bus with the fans...goddamn.
In the end no one likes either fucking one of them, the brand is permanently damaged. It's even fucking worse then the FF brand and they had a money making machine with the right kind of THING that sold in the west if the did it well and that they only had to not fuck it up.
Tales is fucked forever and everyone knows it.
And Edna selling better by being the generic stand in for the female audience who wants to fuck/get's protected/fucked by random generic Chad Thundercock badboy is a foregone conclusion.
>The game was a financial success
It costs literal dimes to make and they went out of their way to pull the scummiest tactics to squeeze more money out of that turd possible and they shilled it endlessly.
It would be almost impossible for it to not make money back.
Of course it was successful.
The problem is that they overplayed their hand.
It absolutely ruined the Tales brand and nothing they will ever put out will ever be as successful as even their most mediocre to trash efforts ever again.
They hurt their own brand that badly.
You're both wrong and right at the same time. Yes people who believe in the Baba meme at this point in time are retards. Yes Zestiria has problems with the gameplay, however the one the problems that it doesn't have are Sorey, Mikleo and Edna. Believe it or not Sorey merchandise by itself outsells Berseria, and Mikleo himself is ridiculously popular as well and well received, case in point the manga focuses on the both of them and is considered to be better than the game and the anime. Alishafags may be loud but they're also really small in number hence why Berseria's sales didn't slow down.
You're right that no one likes either Rose or Alisha, but the brand is doing better now, no thanks to Rose or Alisha.
She finally achieved her place in Sorey's party in this episode. I'm happy for her.
So instead of actually doing something for Symmone and Lunarre, they just turn her into a dragon and kill(?) him
I feel like they planed for the these characters to get more development but it didn't happen, ever
Why is Symmone with them for no reason? I think we mssed a ouple episodes but whatever I guess, more screentime for Alisha and Rose, can't let her have any development
Symmone turning into the dragon makes sense based on her devotion so that should've been in the game instead of it being some random sepraph turning into one when you fight him at the battlefield, it would've made her way more useful and important to the story
Lunarre has random development of wanting to be good for no reason, he didn't do a single thing this whole anime, he fought sorey once, was chased by him, and then just fucked off doing nothing with him watching in the background, he was the most non important, neutral party in this whole, why even have him here in the first place if you're not gonna do anything with him
Bad episode because it feels like we've skipped a lot and everything seems like cookie cutter placement of ideas and story direction
1.Did you forget the "250% gay" thing I was talking about? They sold it to the fujos and wanted to otaku to pay for alisha. The former worked, but the latter fucked it all up. And the rest of the audience who didn't want homosex, sexless women, to buy the game play and wanted an at least DECENT game got fucked but good.
2.Berseria sold only because it was one of the few jrpgs on the ps4 and that's it. It sold WORSE then it could have if the Zestria debacle hadn't happened and if it was..you know..actually good.
The brand is limping to a grave right now. They need at least 3 more GOOD games and to completely bury this clusterfuck to move on and salvage their IP.
There is no saving Zestiria is there.
Berseria was good and Orfelia
if it existsmight salvage a few things from the mess, but every major project directly related to zestiria seems to just trip over its dick and land on a bed of knives.
>1.Did you forget the "250% gay" thing I was talking about?
Yeah and? Yuri never had a female love interest and Bamco pairs him up with Flynn all the time. In fact it's a running meme about Yuri is attracted to Flynn. And I've actually heard little complaints about it other than, "Mikleo should be a girl since he's halfway there already and it'd save everyone a lot of trouble". Otaku don't care about gayshit as long as they get pandered to with female characters wearing skimpy clothing, but Rose was shit and so was Alisha. Only dumbasses who wanted ot self insert cared about Sorey not wanting to get his dick wet in a girl. Only autists got upset about it.
>2.Berseria sold only because it was one of the few jrpgs on the ps4 and that's it. It sold WORSE then it could have if the Zestria debacle hadn't happened and if it was..you know..actually good.
It came out right before Persona 5 and FFXV, and the sales still haven't haven't slowed down even half a year later. Ergo Zestiria didn't effect it to the opposite really, Berseria after a while just made people go back to look at how it fits in with Zesitira.
>The brand is limping to a grave right now. They need at least 3 more GOOD games and to completely bury this clusterfuck to move on and salvage their IP.
It's last game sold well, their mobage games are all doing well, merchandise sales are up, they have a successful concert a few months ago, etc. They're doing just fine. stop being a drama queen.
>Yeah and? Yuri never had a female love interest and Bamco pairs him up with Flynn all the time. In fact it's a running meme about Yuri is attracted to Flynn. And I've actually heard little complaints about it other than, "Mikleo should be a girl since he's halfway there already and it'd save everyone a lot of trouble". Otaku don't care about gayshit as long as they get pandered to with female characters wearing skimpy clothing, but Rose was shit and so was Alisha. Only dumbasses who wanted ot self insert cared about Sorey not wanting to get his dick wet in a girl. Only autists got upset about it.
Yuri is a fag to the fujo audience and everyone knows it. It's pure gay bait period.
The women in Zestria were fucking below average in all respects across the board and the only one that was even worth half a yank was taken out to be resold.
The otaku DID fucking hate how unbelievably gay it was you waste of spunk. More then that, they fucking detested how bad the game was.
You live on a completely different planet from the rest of us.
>It came out right before Persona 5 and FFXV, and the sales still haven't haven't slowed down even half a year later...
So yeah...it came out before any major JRPG titles and it's only selling because of that. That's all.
I've not seen any big sales numbers for it anywhere and I've not seen Bamco go out of their way to claim that it's a massive success at all.
>It's last game sold well,
>their mobage games are all doing well,
Selling on fucking nostalgia, with no upfront costs.
>merchandise sales are up
Not that I've seen.
>they have a successful concert a few months ago,
Who gives a shit?
>They're doing just fine. stop being a drama queen.
I stand by what I said.
They have three games and to bury these last two games before they can even hope to get to where they were before.