isekai

>overlord
>characters die permantrly
>yes
Shaltear????

>>154503142
The chart isn't accurate for Konosuba, Log Horizon, Re:Zero and SAO, I haven't watched the other ones

>>154503142
No where the fuck did you get that from?

>>154503142
Overlord guild NPCs can be revived for money, and world NPCs with items and magic. Only players might be able to die permanently, but that hasn't been an issue yet.

>>154503142
No, and what is this for anyway? To see which is the least shitty isekai?

>>154503142
Where the hell did you get that who's the autist thats waisting his time on this? Anyway no.

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kazuma and aqua have to kill the demon lord.7
Did you even watch these shows?

>>154503512
wasting*

>>154503142
>12 kingdoms
>go back home
Maybe in the beginning.

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>>154503142

Is this focused in the Anime adaptations? Most of these are fugged

>>154503142
Re:Zero has world building and a lot of character development. Not much in the anime though.

Isekais where Mc have sex:
YES:
Sao
Mushoku Tensei
ShieldBro

NO:
Overlord, Konosuba, Log Horizon, Grimgar, NGNL etc

anime for normies

>>154503762
>log horizon
>normies

Why is Digimon Tamers listed?

Maybe Adventure or Frontier would count as Isekai but in Tamers they were on Earth for most of the story.

>>154503748
>Konosuba
Does succubi dream sex count?

>>154503142
An accurate bait chart.

>>154503795
No, the succubus said so, it's just a dream.

>>154503898
But It feels exactly like the real thing

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>>154503934
But it's just a dream

>>154503748
They don't actually have sex in SAO, Kiriot just has a wet dream in his hospital bed.

>>154503142
>SAO
>characters die permanently
>YES
Nigger that was only for 1 arc.

>>154504038
>chapter 16.5

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>>154503142
Drifters is the perfect Isekai.

>>154503934
I'd have wet dreams where I'm having sex, and I feel like it's the real thing, though I'm a virgin.

Does that count?

>>154503142
>Overlord with no world building
>Re:Zero with no character development
>Konosuba with no overpowered MC

>>154503142
Digimon Tamers isn't real isekai. They just happen to travel to another world at some point in the story, it's not a tool for easy exposition with main characters that are easy to self insert into.

Digimon Adventure is a real isekai, Digimon Tamers is not.

what's the point of this chart?

>>154503142
Counting Tamers in is werid, also they went in with a clear objective at their own will. Getting back home was never their main objective.
Re:zero actualy had character developement, it just sucked.

>>154504262
To show us how retarded OP is.

>>154504122
Sorry, that doesn't count.

Dog days should be on the chart, if for no other reason than "alternate worlds are super fun".

>>154504107
Implying getting laid in an MMO counts as scoring

>>154504285
If you're talking anime yeah, it sucks.

>>154503142
>Tsubasa wasn't overpowered.

It is my honest opinion that 12 Kingdoms is one of the best anime ever.

>Konosuba
The only one that's remotely correct is character development, Kazuma's luck and knowledge of making kotatsus is basically a cheat ability

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>overlord
>no world building

maybe the anime, but the novel is nothing BUT world building. season 2 will fix this misunderstanding.

>characters die permanently

stated multiple times IN THE ANIME ressurection is a thing. one is even explicitly shown with shalltear's ressurection from being disentegrated.

>important objective
>explore

conquering the entire world and uniting all the races under a single benevolent, undying leadership isn't important?

>>154505256
Though there's gazef who requested not being revived.

>>154503795
if almosts counted then Kazuma would got laid sex plenty of times

as it is he's the king of coitus interruptus

Could add an "rpg mechanics" too

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ReMonster

World Building - yes
Characters die permanently - yes
Character development - yes
Have an important objective - make a strong community, beat the god dungeons and find out why he died
MC overpowered - relative to the world yes but not compared to the great gods

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>>154505326

thanks for spoilers anon.

he still can technically be revived with a high level rez spells only available to ainz, but the death spell ainz used is too strong for normal NW rez spells. IF ainz were truely evil he could bring him back but he respected him too much to go against the man's dying wish.

F

>>154503142
Does this mean NGMI is the best one on the list? It has nearly all reds just like Re: Zero.

>>154505509
I don't know if this is a bait or your really think this

>>154506533
Nothing is wrong with what I said, people only hate remonster cause they're moralfags.

>>154505541
Overlord play by D&D rules, if you don't want to be revive you reject the spell and don't fucking revive

>>154503142
That bit about character development will have to get adjusted as soon as season 3 hits. Megumin might be the only character that actually develops in that series but its still more than nothing.

missing the best Isekai to date that is Ixion Saga DT

>>154503142
so is escaflowne the best isekai anime ? i was planning to watch it after finishing ashita no joe

>>154506661
The problem isn't the moral, the problem is
>Enslave and Rape is bad
>Enslave and drug until they beg for sex is Ok
You cant say the first and do the second

>>154506917
It has a shit ton of other flaws to be honest.

>>154503142
Grimgar has character development

>>154504065
Also applied kind of applied to GGO, since they were murdered in real life as they were killed in the game.

>>154503666
Sounds like aids

>>154503142
>grimgar character development
>no
What? The what. Did they not pay attention to the series?

>Log Horizon
>MC not over powered

>>154507600
Them being demigods didn't help keeping control of akihabara

>no Nobuna

The Ambition of Oda Nobuna is isekai done right

>no dual parallel
>no those who hunt elves
>no gate

such a shit list of fantasy/game gayness

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>>154503142
All this autism

>>154503142
>Konosuba
>No character development

Read the book nigger.

>No world building
Eh I'll give you that, though parts and hints of it does appear.

>>154507600
Almost all the Main cast and main villains of LH have the same level, also the MC only can show his true power in a party

>>154507600
Literally everyone important is on the same level as MC

>>154503142
You forgot the "is it good" column and it's a NO for every single one.

>>154503142
merry is best girl and will win

>>154503142
Every one of these things is vague and subjective. How do you measure world building or character development? It's a matter of opinion. I think ReZero had more character development than any of three YESs.

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>>154503142
>forgetting el hazard

>>154506661

Re:Monster is just shit though. The author is jerking off in your face about how awesome Rou is. The moment anything remotely inconvenient happens to him it's solved in a couple chapters.

This fight was really hard, it was so dangerous I lost my arm and barely won out- oh there's a dungeon nearby you need me to clear out so humans don't get to the legacy left behind? Oh look, a magic artifact arm. That sure was useful seeing as I lost my arm a couple days back!

The only tension that might exist is seeing which unimportant character might die. The harem sure as fuck won't.

>>154503142
It's too much to shift through and there are a lot of memes like "character development", "waifus", etc. If they didn't take it seriously, why should we even try to fix what's wrong with it?

>>154503142
I wonder what "Worldbuilding" is supposed to mean.
But let's try to be more autistic :
>Konosuba
Contrary to the apparences it actually has a decent amount of worldbuilding, the objective is mainly "achieve a decent lifestyle". Most of what drives the anime is the MC trying to get out of the stables and then trying to get out of debts. It's only in he current arc that he really has achieved that goal.

>Grimgar
It does have character developement (mostly the MC who take on the leader role), and their objective is to survive.

>Log Horizon
The objective is adaptating to the world. Character developement is a thing, so no not "partial".

>Re Zero
lel buzzwords.
It has world building and a lot of character developement. Shit character developement is the focus of an entire arc. And the objective stay the same throughout : protecting Emilia and his friends.

>NGNL
It has worldbuilding.

I haven't watched/the chart is right about the rest.

>>154503142
>12 kingdoms
>go back home
????

>>154509377
>protecting Emilia and his friends
pretty sure that's what he meant with "waifus".
It's actually more accurate, since all those poeple weren't his friends from the start so just wanting to get ass is a much more plausible motive.

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>decide to read deathmarch because fuck it, why not
>MC obliterates an entire army of level 50 lizard men (about 300) with a single attack
>levels up to max level and all stats become maxed out
>gets a whole bunch of skills as a result of his very first battle
>gets 3100 skill points he can use upgrading his already numerous skills
>gets rich instantly from his very first battle
>has infinite purified water
>can see all sorts of useful information using in-game data screens and in-game maps
>casually snipes a fucking dinosaur with a pebble by flicking it off his thumb
>saves a cute girl who will probably fall in love with him for saving her life
>all this is just chapter 1
HOLY FUCK

>>154503142
>LH
>NPC aren't characters

>>154503142
The best two there are 12 Kingdoms and Escaflowne. Not sure which of the two is better though.

>>154503142
Cant believe zero no tsukaima isnt on this

>>154510361

Death March is the kind of series that might as well be a slice of life. It has no tension from the start and continues to be that way throughout. The story boils down to the protagonist knowing he's probably the strongest thing around and just touring the land with his harem enjoying local foods and occasionally solving local problems. Meanwhile his harem are becoming heroes of legend and he's not fucking any of them in true Japanese harem style.

The people who enjoy Death March aren't really there for the power fantasy, probably not even for the limited world building. They are there for the comfy fuzziness of it. It is a very inoffensive, safe series where not much happens.

>>154510728
>yes, yes, yes, yes, no
>still a kusoLN

>>154503142
>Konosuba
>World Building
>No

wtf I love Escaflowne now

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>World building: Yes
>Characters die permanently: Yes
>Character development: Yes
>Have an important objecitive: Stop escapism
>MC overpowered: No

FFTA is the best isekai

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>cute daughterus
Yes

>>154503142
>Escaflowne is on the list but not El-Hazard
Shit list is shit.

>>154505509
>and find out why he died
Yandere imouto figure saw him with another woman and went apeshit on him.

Not hard to figure out.

>No Rayearth
>No Fushigi no Yuugi
>No Nobuna
It's shit.

>>154515912
This kinda happened with motoyasu in shieldbro. But it was a childhood friend and a cute ojou-type girl he met, they took turns stabbing him.

He's now forever afraid of yanderes.

>>154503142
Grimgar have character development, the objective is survive and the MC is a special snowflake that can see lines like shiki

Log horizon have a overpowered MC

Re Zero have character development and the objective is avoid suffering

Overlord character can be resurrected

>>154510909
>They are there for the comfy fuzziness of it. It is a very inoffensive, safe series where not much happens.
Nigga, this shit is offensive to my taste.

>>154503666
So this is what /a/ has become.
No wonder this place become more cancerous each day.

>>154503142
Grimgar has character development. Unless they regress in the novels, but that doesn't really seem pertinent.

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>>154503142

>Rezero
>World Building - Yes, fuckton of side stories about the other factions.
>Characters die permanently - Yes, see Regulus, the witches, any character that dies before time traveling back
>Character development - Yes, Arcs 4-5-6 focus heavily on development, backstories and shit.
>Have an important objective - Defeat/Save Satella, unfreeze Emilia's home, waking up Rem, defeat Echidna, make Emilia become king.
>MC overpowered - If time traveling back with a lot of emotional scars count, then yes, Subaru is overpowered.

>>154503142
>Youjo Senki
>World building - Yes
>Perm death - Yes
>Chara dev - Partial (MC only)
>Obj - beat 'god' in its own game and live a cushy deskjob life in the rear line
>MC OP - Yes

>>154504173
>konosuba mc
>op

>>154509377
>>Konosuba
>Contrary to the apparences it actually has a decent amount of worldbuilding, the objective is mainly "achieve a decent lifestyle". Most of what drives the anime is the MC trying to get out of the stables and then trying to get out of debts. It's only in he current arc that he really has achieved that goal.
The plot will drag him back, won't it?

>>154510909
Loliprincess best girl.

>>154517139
Damegami will always drag him back.
Kuzuma needs to realize that he needs to keep her hedonistic desires satisfied at all times to stop her from dragging him back into the fold.

>>154503748
Who fugged Shieldbro?

>>154510361
Feels like every other chapter of death march is about MC going to the market and buying a gift for a girl as if you buy enough gifts people will like you.

>>154517253
>he needs to keep her hedonistic desires satisfied at all time
Gee, i wonder who could be behind this post.

>>154503748
>NO:
>Overlord
OH COME ON!
Ainz doesn't even have a bone to plant in the first case.

>>154506666
Then explain forced resurrection in the human farms

>>154503666
Double devil trips. Nice.

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>>154503142
>Re:Zero
>Konosuba
>Overlord
>No world building
>No character development

>Grimgar
>No character development

>>154510909
The fact that nothing happens is itself offensive.

If you were going to write a story with boring stock characters about effectively being tourists in an alternative world, ideally you would be putting some kind of actual effort into constructing a compelling and well fleshed-out world to tour and explore. Since without an actual plot all you're left with to create something interesting is the setting itself.

Death march makes no effort in this regard. How am I supposed to give a shit about this guy exploring a new world if the new world sucks?

>>154517471
Obviously Raph.

>>154503142
12 Kingdoms and Escaflowne still outclassing all the other shit.
Sounds about right.

>>154503142
Do you believe everything on the internet, anon?

I have a feeling you do.

You're a piece of shit and don't deserve the carbon that makes up your brain.

I still like overlord

>>154518343
But you don't understand anon, it has beastkin and elves and lizardfolk and heroes and demon kings. It's the most unique and amazing setting ever.

>>154518831
And melty, and Sadina.

>>154516811
>muh luck
>not op

>>154519488
His luck is way less OP that it should be. Dude meets way too much misfortune for someone with such an absurd amount of luck.

>>154504285
This chart is dumb, and you're a dumbass for posting it.

Yes, twelve kingdoms is the best. Youko's goals change, though. She was actually isekai on Earth in the first place.

>>154508341
The MC in LH isn't overpowered in terms of level. He's overpowered in that he's the only one who can even remotely use his brain. His is the only party that starts off knowing what teamwork and game mechanics is. Sure, there are battle guilds who presumably know about this stuff, but they do it off screen. Nobody else the MCs encounter early on know this.

And he's the only one/faction who can figure out the rules of the new world. Like, no one else were able to figure out how to make food taste remotely good, despite already stating that food can taste sweet (which begs the question, why didn't everybody just go for sweetness?). He figured out how to manipulate building ownership and that NPCs are possibly maybe sentient. There's an entire town who are so sociopathic/retarded that they still couldn't figure out that maybe NPCs aren't just mindless drones after spending several weeks/months there.

So yeah, LH MCs are OP. Not in terms of level but due to everyone else being dumb. And the MCs DO have super elite rare P2W or one time only ultra mega hard event items.

>>154519375
I like it too, but filthy secondaries don't lnow that Overlord is 70% world building

>>154519044
Two good series vs absolute garbage.

>>154503142
>Kumo Desuga, Nanika?
> World Building - Yes
>Permanent Death - Yes
>Character Development - Yes
>Important Objective - Yes
>MC Overpowered - No, and then Yes, kinda

>>154519707
Shiroe rushed Operation Hamburgers because he knew that it was mostly dumb luck that they stumbled on the cooking method first and someone was going to discover it independently sooner or later. That's why he didn't bother trying to guard the secret and just sold it off to the guilds for a tidy sum of cash as soon as possible. And all the NPC shops were completely emptied of condiments by everyone right off the bat because they knew at least those had taste to them.

As for the other town, they knew, they just didn't give a fuck. You underestimate the general sociopathy of powertripping cunts.

>>154519835
>then yes, kinda
>kinda
Nigga you can't get more overpowered than being a fucking god.

Inb4 "b-but the other gods are stronger than her", that doesn't matter if they never try to get in her way.

>>154519957
But what about D?

>>154519978
>Implying D would ever fight with anyone seriously
D is the gods of gods that doesn't make Kumo less powerful

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>grimgar
>no character development

>>154503666
What in the fuck...

>>154519978
See
>that doesn't matter if they never try to get in her way.
D literally made one request of her and is completely hands off otherwise.

Shiro doesn't even need to save the world, she just needs to stick around long enough to see whether it'll implode on itself or live to hobble on a while longer. Then she's free to NEET out for real.

So what are the best Isekai? Be it manga or anime. I like the idea of the premise, but the execution is rarely great and tends to be barf inducing after the first few chapters.

Manga
1) Ore to Kawazu-san no Isekai Hourouki
20+ chapters in and it's still good. I might argue that it's the best Isekai right now.

2) Chihou Kishi Hans no Junan
Also 20+ chapters right now. It's been good so far. Not as charming as Ore to Kawazu-san though.

3) Kumo desu ga, nani ka?
So far so good.

4) Knights & Magic
Same as 3). So far so good.

5) Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken
It feels like we're approaching the shark jumping point. So far so good but the Oni are ominously like the humans in Re: Monster.

6) Death March kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyousoukyoku
Started surprisingly good but is rapidly getting taxing.

7) New Gate
Suckfest from the get go.

8) World Creator Customizer
Sucks even harder than New Gate

9) Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari
Like Slime, it feels like we're entering fatigue territory.

10) Re: Monster
Starts off good but god, it's sooooo fucking Chuuni right now.

There's more. I'm legitimately asking for recommendations and I'm just listing a few I've read.

this is dumb
this is a dumb thread
youre all dumb

>>154518074
also
>Overlord
>characters die permanently
Literally anyone he cared to revive has been revived or can still be revived whenever he feels like it, except Gazeff who refused resurrection.

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>>154520217
>Starts off good but god, it's sooooo fucking Chuuni right now.
>NO RAPE ALLOWED, THAT'S IMMORAL AND BAD AND I WON'T TOLERATE IT.
>Just drug them until they're mindbroken to the point of questionable consent, then it's all good.

>>154520217
11) Chef no Nobunaga
At least Chef no Nobunaga makes more sense than Shougeki no Soma. It's about a modern Japanese born chef using his European/World techniques to impress Nobunaga, who has never experienced all these new foods. As opposed to Shougeki no Soma where we're expected buy that home made Japanese soy sauce is the epitome of cuisine or that Singaporean Chicken Rice (which is a common as muck street food) is high cuisine.

>overlord has no world building
Anime only plebs need the gas.

What constitutes as world building?

>>154508909
>forgetting war on geminar
>forgetting mondaiji-tachi
>forgetting zero no tsukaima
>forgetting now and then, here and there
>forgetting haibane renmei

>>154520612
Expanding on and explaining the setting.
Which is why every anon that claims these stories don't worldbuild is retarded.

They worldbuild tons, they just do it badly. Just throw fantasy eroge and JRPG cliches in a blender and press go.

>>154503142
>Overlord has no character development or world building
but that is literally the point of the LN

hell the objective isn't really even to explore
it's a dad desperately making busywork so his kids are entertained

>>154520685
What is OP's justification for putting Grimgar in the green instead of the red?

>>154506917
12 Kingdoms is by the far best isekai. Unfortunately the anime doesn't cover everything. It's still very good though.

>>154520887
"I like this setting because it's grim and realistic for mature viewers like me" vs. "I don't like this setting because it's pandering and has catgirls".

>overlord
>characters die permanently
did you just drop it after the first chapter/episode or something?

>>154520887
Brain problems.

Grimgar barely even counts as isekai anyway, you could have the story be about any group of strangers (amnesia optional) and nothing would really change.

>>154520217
Prototypical examples:
>Digimon Adventure
A classic that goes without saying.
>Escaflowne
A classic that goes without saying.
>El Hazard
A classic that goes without saying.
>Zero no Tsukaima
A classic but the LN is better than the anime.
>Muv-Luv Unlimited/Muv-Luv Alternative
Not a fantasy setting. One of /a/'s favorite VNs.


Archetypicals
>Mushoku Tensei
Helped kickstart the isekai flood in the first place, but a lot of the traps that its copycats fall into aren't present. No JRPG mechanics.

>Oda Nobuna
Genderbend sengoku era fun. Mitsuhide is the best.

>Dog Days
cute

>Arifureta
It's fine to not take it seriously, because even the author wasn't really trying.

>Shield Hero
only the first four volumes

Atypicals
>Re:Zero
No JRPG mechanics, suffering

>Grimgar
No JRPG mechanics, suffering

>The Faraway Paladin
No JRPG mechanics, more like a classical fantasy story than anything to come out of the isekai flood. A prototypical story only masquerading as a modern isekai.

>Youjo Senki
No fantasy, no JRPG, straddling the line between Archetypical and Atypical

>>154520983
Does 12 Kingdoms have a reason why there are multiple worlds in the first place?

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>>154520217
>9) Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari
>Like Slime, it feels like we're entering fatigue territory.
I wouldn't blame you if you dropped it after chapter 32, since that's the end of vol 4 in the LN. Though the manga will definitely continue, and then we'll get best boy L'Arc.

>>154520217
>How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom
A pretty good read, but the LN version is such massive improvement on the WN that the WN is effectively obsolete. It does everything from to rewording awkward/cringy sentences, to fixing plot holes, adding actual characterization that didn't exist before.

>>154521714
>from fedoratipping autist to OH SHIT ANOTHER WORLD

>>154503666
>kissanime
>facebook

well theres your fucking problem

>>154521399
Great, I'll check some of them out.

> Mushoku Tensei
Is this the one where he's reborn as a baby and is currently in a foreign land with a couple freaks? It started off good but I don't dig the foreign land arc.

>>154521474
Shield Bro... Death March... I'm starting to think the only reason I read this stuff is for the whole Slave Maker portions. Once the slaves start acting like equals and craving MC cock, they begin to annoy me in the way that harem-types tend to annoy me.

>>154521872
In shieldbro we stop seeing so much enslavement and tackle on the main theme of the story, which is the waves and stuff. In the WN that's not explored as much, and it even looks rushed when you think about it. Good thing the LN expands upon that by adding an extra arc exploring glass's world, and a few new off-world characters joining naofumi. Happy slave village still happens though.

If you'd like slavery and stuff i'd suggest you read ouroboros records. But i'm not sure if that will still deal with it since the MC is doing alchemy and SCIENCE.

>>154517769
They farmed alive and healed.

>>154517253
Are you saying he needs to give her the D so that she mellows?

>>154520217
>Evil God Average
A really good series where the MC made a poorly worded request to a dickbag god and he made it so that no one can look her in the eyes without cowering in fear. More comedy and less drama, being Arnri-sama is suffering.

It's technically a prequel to the author's other series, but that one's kind of crap, so ignore it.

>Risou no himo seikatsu
A comfy SoL isekai about a guy who gets summoned as a fantasy queen's consort because his genes can strengthen the royal bloodline. Suffers a bit from nothing happening at times, but it's unique for the relationship with the queen developing gradually and realistically over time. Very good characterization.

>Black knight who's stronger than the hero
Female Protagonist. A girl desperately attempts to solve the problems of the fantasy world she was summoned to, because in the future someone is supposed to summon her childhood friend as the Hero, and she knows that if he's summoned, he'll screw up her life again. Very well written, and I enjoyed it quite a bit, but none of the characters other than the MC are really all that memorable.

>Mondaji-tachi
Actually has a manga and anime. Three highschoolers with magical powers are summoned to help a failing clan suck less. Focuses on themed games and contests, and all of the characters are memorable. Starts out pretty meh, but gets much better after the first volume. An absolute gem, a must read in my opinion.

>>154523472

>No Game No Life
A (somewhat incestuous) autistic brother-sister pair are sent to a world were violence is physically impossible and everything is settled through children's games. Coincidentally, the pair is excessively good at all games, including children's ones. They set out to take over the world and challenge the one supreme god to a match, but he's butthurt about losing a chess game and won't accept until they gather all of the fantasy races under their rule. Very similar in themes and characters to Mondaji, but worse-written. Still worth a read if you can stomach the frequent ass-pulls.

>Dungeon Defense
A guy who has severe issues because he was raised by a yandere mother and a perverted Harem king father is transported into a game that he liked to play after he realized that due to an obscure part of the game's lore, immediately after the epilogue everyone involved dies horribly. He's forced into the body of the first boss of the game, a retarded weakling who screwed up at everything he did. He immediately uses his meta-knowledge to advance his position, and attempts to manipulate all of the game's major players to avert the world-ending cataclysm that would happen if the Humans succeed in killing off the Demons. Excellently written, and conceals plot twists right up until they become relevant. A must read. Fair warning though, there are several minor plot points from the first volume that are dropped without explanation in following volumes.

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>>154523472
>Mondaiji-tachi
Damn japs with their shit taste. The anime was absolutely charming, but S2 never.

>>154522108
Thanks for the recommendation. I'll check it out, since I'm into isekai where they bring in SCIENCE.

It's not that I'm into the slave thing. Although being a neckbeard, I can appreciate it.

What other Isekais have MCs as based as Shieldbro?

>>154523472
>Evil God Average
I'll give it a shot. Though doesn't quite sound like it suits me but you never know.

>Risou no himo seikatsu
Read the first chapter of the manga, because I'm a goddamn secondary. Not quite to my taste. But since you say it gets better, I'll give it a shot if I got the time. Some series take time to get into stride.

>Black knight who's stronger than the hero
Sounds good. I think it'll be 2nd or 3rd on my list.

>Mondaji-tachi
I'll give it a try. Sounds familiar.

>>154523513
>No Game No Life
I actually liked the anime. I forgot why though. I think it might have been because he uses reasonably sound logic and real world stuff to get a leg up as opposed to some "puzzle" shows where the MC uses asspulls and logical arguments with huge gaping flaws.

>Dungeon Defense
Sounds familiar. Also sounds like it's right up my alley. Probably gonna be my 1st or 2nd choice to read next.

>>154524903
Charming? Excellente.

>>154503142
Nope. but it is a nice bait.

Also
>Digimon Tamers
>Isekai

Almost got me.

>>154503142

How does one define isekai?
Are RPG mechanics a necessity for the genre, or simply someone going to another world?

>>154521714
I'll give it a shot.

>>154526654
Simply going to another world.
RPG mechanic is just a world building device for lazy authors.

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>>154526744

In that case, pic related is the best one.

>>154520217
>3) Kumo desu ga, nani ka?
I just read the first 14 chapters and it was hilarious, thank you very much.

>>154524903
Was it really? I didn't dislike it or anything, but it didn't appear to be all that good either. It was mostly the balancer that felt very off. The guy (sorry, I don't remember any names) seemed a bit OP while one of the girls had the very problematic skill of Absolute Command. That in itself tends to completely break any story so authors need to nerf it and they all tend to nerf it in the same way: By making enemies immune to it. And that's exactly what happened in the anime, making that girl mostly useless. A shame because I liked most other things about that show.

>>154526793
Approximately 3 people on /a/ watched that show. Which reminds me I need to check for DVD rips again, I only have a random subset as rips right now.
As for brooms: surfing > side saddle > traditional

>>154520217
>Saihate no Paladin/The Faraway Paladin
I'm too lazy to talk about why I enjoyed this so instead I'll just point you at a couple of reviews.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/faraway-paladin/novel-1/.112124
http://suitablefortreatment.mangabookshelf.com/#article/6250

The caveat: DON'T read the fan translation linked on Novelupdates. Get the official translation.

>>154526958
Part of the fun of Mondaiji is the fact that the MC is OP as hell, but he rarely participates in fights to his full extent because he just wants to fuck around and have fun. The girl's mind control power was heavily nerfed on introduction, with the condition that strong people can resist it so it can only be used on mobs. This was remedied by giving her a fuckhuge gundam thing to control with her powers

>>154520217
>How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom
A guy plans on entering the civil service after graduating from his university's School of Economics with a special interest in world history.

But one day he gets summoned to another world to be a hero by a small struggling kingdom, one member of a larger coalition of states which are in a state of war with demonic invaders from another dimension, mainly because they couldn't afford to pay tribute to the Empire and are trying to stave off attempts by surrounding powers to incorporate them into imperial territory or just be carved up by surrounding powers.

So instead of being shipped off as tribute to the Empire and made to fight demons, the MC gets the throne ceded to him, gets engaged to the former crown princess to "legitimize" having the throne, and starts getting to work trying to deal with all the kingdom's problems including food shortages, refugee crisis, economic malaise, rebellions by the duchies against central authority.

Includes bonus references to Machiavelli's The Prince that don't think it was a satire.

>>154526958
Izayoi meets his match. The thing in question, Azi Dahaka, is a motherfucking godly character.

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>>154527053

I wish more people had watched it, it's pretty spectacular.
I went in to it thinking I'd get, like, anime Harry Potter or something but I actually got magical juvenile delinquents.

It's far from a perfect show, but the art direction alone makes it better than everything in the OP image besides perhaps Digimon Tamers which is something of a marvel in itself considering Konaka wrote it.

>>154503142
Fuck off Overlord is like 40% worldbuilding

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>>154526139
>>154503142
>Shieldbro
>Wordbuilding
Some. Expanded upon in the LN and the Spear hero WN.
>Characters die permanently
Yes
>Character development
Yes
>Have an important objective
First it was making ends meet and survive enough to get back home, now it's making a place for raphtalia to live in and then get back home.
>MC Overpowered
Not at the start, He ends up the most powerful and becomes the de facto leader of the 4 heroes but he still can't do much by himself since he's got minimal attack power.

Good night thread

>>154503142
Is digimon really in the isekai transported into a rpg type of show like the rest of those?

>>154503142
accurate for the most part, but grimgar has a lot of character development
also no doesn't always equal bad, it's all relative to the show's intent

>>154503142
Well I remember liking 12 kingdoms back when I watched it and it's the only "all green" one, so probably yeah.

>>154503142

And that is why 12 kingdoms, Escaflowne and Ima, Soko ni Iru Boku are the only good isekai

>>154503142
re-zero at least has character development, you can argue about world building.


but man i can agree with 12 kingdom and escaflowne for ticking all the isekai's green tick.

>>154508626
man fuck you, 12 kingdom and escaflowne was the shit, and still the better isekai till now.

>>154529648
Not, not even remotely.

>>154503142
just put a "shit" banner and a "yes" below it, referring to all

All of it sucks, even Konosuba, which just tries to make you forget it's more wish fulfillment.

>>154503142
>Konosuba
>no character development or world building
Who ever made that chart needs to kill themselves

>>154503142
The Re:Zero row ha only one thing right

>>154503142
What the fuck is this shit. No it's nowhere near accurate.
>>154503666
Fuck off and never come back you spawn of satan. This made me ever so slightly sad.

>>154503142
There is world building in re:zero just that it takes a long time. Only MC has the ability to respawn. Yes subaru did change for the better or worst. Subaru objective is to defeat gluttony and save rem.

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Where is this fit in? 2010s isekai is shit

>>154526654
Isekai literally means "another world". The RPG shit is just a fad within the isekai genre that lazy amateur writers are all jumping on.

>>154503142
>grimgar's important objective
>anything other than MUH MANATA
You have failed.

>>154527089
Vol 2 can't come soon enough

>>154503142
>Re Zero
>no worldbuilding
Just because they don't sit you down for literal lectures on the world doesn't mean there is no worldbuilding.

>>154520217
>I Appear to have been Reincarnated as a Love Interest in an Otome Game
tl;dr the MC becomes the prince who is hidden love interest in otomege. Then as the prince, he tries to wakes up his future aides that is bewitched by the protag (something something about her gene).
The genre is pretty much a romcom with a lot of icha-icha between MC and his fiancee.

>Observation Record of a Self-proclaimed Villainess’ Fiance
It's isekai but, instead having the pov of the girl who is reincarnated, it has pov of her fiance.
It's romcom again.

Well, I'm fond of romcom stories after all.

>>154519707
Minami/Plant Hwayden went through a similar process/progression but the people holding the info were much less benevolent. Minami even had the previous Sage of Miral Lake so they had similar info on world fraction/spirit theory/world-class magic. Enough people across the board were able to develop teachings/overskill as well. Even early on there are people who obviously figured out how to abuse the new world. Hamelin realized they can exploit the exp pots still generating as well as their control of their guild space.

>>154503142
>escaflowne is an isekai
Where's Magic knight rayearth?

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>the story has video game mechanics for no reason

>>154504065
> Forgot GGO (thanks to Death Gun) and Alicization had permadeath too

Re:zero very accurate

>>154532559
>no reason
It's to attract an audience, plain and simple.

>>154503142
Why isn't there a column for "JRPG mechanics"? I feel like this is a pretty important qualifier in the present atmosphere.

>SAO
>isekai

>>154504038
>implying horny teenagers won't have sex as soon as they can
They already broke past the "this is awkward, let's wait longer" phase inside the game, and it's already been two years since they escaped the game.

>>154534006
Alicization is isekai, yeah.

>>154520217
How did Death March start good? It was insufferable from the get go.

>>154535229
He also said Re: Monster is good, and that its only problem is that it's "Chuuni".

>>154535534
Re:Monster does have a decent framework around which a proper story could be written if one was of a mind to do it. It's a barebones log as is, but that means there's a lot of gaps to fill in with detail.

>>154537042
If you only took the first couple chapters, and extrapolated from there, it could be pretty good. But the Rank-up system is retarded, and the way the story progresses is really unnatural.

It has a "decent framework", but you can say that about most stories that are also ass.

>>154537501
If you think about it, the Book of Genesis is a reverse isekai.

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>>154503142
>Overlord
>no world building
>Objective is to explore

How can you explore a world if it isn't built upon?

>>154535229
Perhaps "good" was too generous a term, but it could have been worse. And then it became that.

>>154535534
The first few chapters were arguably good when it was about surviving as a lowly goblin and it had nice art. But by the time he became an ogre, it's just becomes trashier and trashier.

>>154503142
>MC Overpowered
>Re: Zero
>No
Are you even trying, anon?

>>154532473
Is Hamelin that sweatshop guild? That's the one that bothered me most. Bear in mind that I'm an anime secondary, but as far as the way it was presented in the anime, it was majorly retarded.

Those guys were presumably at least lower mid level and yet, were somehow confused/frustrated when a noob can't tank mobs that were probably 5 to 10 levels higher than them. Control of guild space is just plain dumb in the sense that it's a lazy plot contrivance. It would have been acceptable if people/readers/watchers just admitted that the game (as presented in the anime) they were in was majorly broken/buggy, but the fans were pretty cancerous when the show was on.

>>154523513
>Coincidentally, the pair is excessively good at all games, including children's ones
Not really coincidentally, since the god summoned them precisely because they are so good with games

>but he's butthurt about losing a chess game and won't accept until they gather all of the fantasy races under their rule.
He's not butthurt, those are just the rules that have to followed to challenge the god. The siblings were summoned because the god think they may be able to acquire all the pieces so that he finally can have a worthy opponent

>>154537865
Right from the get go he had one of those retarded skill stealer cheats that every shitty isekai MC seems to have, except the way it's justified is even dumber. Even as a goblin, right off the bat he was far, far ahead of the curve because of his dumb cheat skill.

>>154538788
The power to imitate the abilities of others is hardly a novelty. Even Naruto used it.

>>154538372
I think the issue during that farming scene was mister higher level was drawing more hate/aggro since he was disproportionately stronger than the noob tank. The teacher system(which allowed high level players to temporarily drop their level) was not a popular system at all and you wouldn't expect scum to have been helping noobs in their past life.

Control of guild space was never a real issue rife with abuse though in Elder tales the game, since any attempt at abuse you can ring up an admin/gm and log out while you wait for support to deal with it. Consequences only manifested in Elder tale the world where these fail-safes were not only gone, but location control got expanded to almost any zone/building.

>>154539036
>The power to imitate the abilities of others is hardly a novelty
Hence
>that every shitty Isekai MC seems to have

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>>154503142
Please put Ixion Saga in the next one, thanks.

re:zero is a shit anime hands down, worst ending I've witnessed in my life.

Anybody get irrationally upset when a isekai MC starts talking about "cheats"?

I don't mind if they talk about a power or a blessing or whatnot, and bonus points if this Chosen One ability fits into the framework of the world. But the use of "cheat" as a terminology legitimately triggers me.

>>154503142
Novelupdate.com
Try searching by tag.

>>154503142
I feel like most of this was aimed at insulting things /a/ likes.

>>154539400
"Cheat" is the japenese way of saying that something is blatantly OP.

If you want to blame someone, blame the translators for translating it literally rather than using western terms for it.

>>154503748
slave harem
divine young armament
isekai skill taker
I think polygamy tag at novelupdate usually has MC that has sex because involving marriage. Not all of them though.

>>154539465
Is there a better way to translate チート than cheat?

For once the Japanese are actually using a loan word correctly.

>>154539465
They should toy with this cheat and make them get big heads, gender swaps, and tourettes.

>>154539465
So a better translation would be OMG HAX then.

>>154539527
h@xx0rz

>>154539527
Isn't it wasei-eigo since no one would normally use cheat for such a thing (as in boon/blessing /power)

>>154539621
It typically refer to a particularly broken power, though, hence "cheat-like ability", not just any power. Especially in the context of FUCKING JRPG MECHANICS

>>154503748
>Mc have sex
Arifureta
Utawarerumono

>>154539621
Just think of it like the word "broken".
Normally you wouldn't use "broken" to describe a real life skill
>what the fuck his soccer skills are totally broken
But if your average western video game nerd was teleported to a fantasy world that ran on MMO mechanics you can sure as hell expect them to say something like
>what the fuck is this ability. "All stat parameters are multiplied by ten for sixty seconds?" This shit is broken

Someone reading Tales of the reincarnated lord?

>>154503142
>MC Overpowered
It should have Yes/No/Broken.

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>>154539400
>it's an isekai novel with an inordinately long title
>that includes isekai
>and cheat
>and harem
>and dorei
>and ends with ?!

>>154503142
Overlord
World building: yes
Characters die permanently: no
Character development: only for NWers and MC, the NPCs are all shallow and one dimensional characters
Have an important objective: conquer the world and explore
MC overpowered: yes

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>>154540134
>the NPCs are all shallow and one dimensional characters

>>154540134
Havnt you read the latest volumes?

All the maids are gettin their turns hugging Ainz´s bones from day to day

Albedo also recently got some development from a few angles. Even more recent Shalltear.

I think we only need the Elves and most of NPC have gotten atleast a few sub arcs. And by the looks of things thats coming right up

>>154503142
I like to argue that Kazuma gets plenty of development

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No mentions on this one? Politics and cooking shows.

>>154540489
Saberfaces not allowed.

>>154506533
obviously bait

I mean he put "yes" next to "world-building"

>>154520641
I don't know Haibane Renmei is pushing it.

>>154503142
For 12 Kingdoms, "go back home" is valid only for the first book. And Youko and every "Wizard" are overpowered to some degree.
Also, Shushou best girl.

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>>154540489
It was mentioned over here
>>154521714
>>154528013

I'm glad the official translators weren't forced to call it TALES OF REALISTIC BRAVE though.

Hey /a/ would you waifu a girl that insults you put your former waifu through a miscarriage, and had you flogged with a salt-laced paddle?

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>>154540489
WN version sucked.

>>154532559
I don't mind the mechanics on principle

to bad most authors just use so they don't have to make an appropriate battle system and as a vehicle to make the MC OP

>grimgar
>no character development
the chart is utter crap for that horrid misjudgement alone. It's as though whoever made it didn't watch it.

>>154503142
Tamers isn't much of an Isekai most of the series takes place in the regular world

but all that applies to Adventure anyway (except the die permanently thing but only in the first two arcs)

>>154540080
I am a cheat harem slave from another world?!

>>154540489
Possibly one of the most gratingly retarded MCs ever.

>>154541091
I read it

>>154541132
it's all about a loli catgirl slave getting transferred to our world and wants to go back home to reunite with her master she pretty much gets adopted by her master's family

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Alright /a/.
Which isekai heroine archetype do you like the best?
>The feisty adventurer girl
>The innkeeper's daughter
>The beastkin slave girl
>The pure elf girl
>The loli vampire that's really 1000 years old
>The fearsome dragon who took the form of a cute girl
>The standoffish female knight
>The haughty duke's daughter
>The sheltered princess of the kingdom
>The misunderstood demon girl (who might be the demon lord)
>The Japanese childhood friend who came along for the ride

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>>154532559
I was really liking this manga and thought it had a lot of promise, right up until this exact page.

>>154541268
No you idiot, it's about a normal japanese guy who is stopped one day by two handsome men in fantasy clothing.

It turns out that he was the favored concubine of a country's queen, but lost his memory and was sent to another world in a magical accident. They bring him back to the kingdom, but even through magical means, they can't recover his memory.

However, as he meets the all of the other concubines(M), and befriends them all, he has the strangest feeling that his original disappearance wasn't really an accident.

>>154541648
Your mother

>>154540672
>This is what I think.

Why the fuck is this line in like every fucking LN/WN at some point. Do the japs who read this garbage really need to be told that something was an inner monologue?

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>>154541730
I got just the thing for you fampai.

>>154541771
Even if you say that, it can't be helped.

>>154540672
>neat with this power i can do all this paperwork
Okay you got me, ill read it.

>>154541818
If I don't proceed with things in a way I won't regret, I won't be able to forgive myself.

>>154510361
Leveling most be easy as shit then. Most games would only level you up several times if you are level 50 killing that many things.

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>>154541876
Enjoy the Saberface who acts like a semi-serious Saber and the Dark Elf EMIYA who acts like a semi-gag comedy Saber.

>>154542062
If it has silly shit like putting an 3 all-nighters and seeing beautiful women as more labor instead after the fact i sure will.

>>154540519
That's exactly what I was thinking.

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>>154542112
remember to gib them shekels if you like it, it's voting with your wallet for the literal opposite of all the things that everyone hates about Yen Press

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>>154541771
This is what I think.

No matter how you look at it, the average skill level of these writers is low. In that case, isn't it true that most amateurs have a tendency to use overly literal description in their prose? In the end, perhaps it's a matter of overreliance on stock phrases that is the source of the problem. However, one must be careful not to make hasty generalizations. There's still so much we don't know about this other country, so caution would be best used while assessing their cultural value. Un, after all, it's not good too be too judgemental!

At least, that's what I think.

>>154541898
You bastard, what did you say, haaah? I won't forget this!

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>>154542371
It's only natural.

>>154542407
Koura, bozu. Aren't you getting a bit full of yourself? Did your parents not raise you right?

>>154542371
Why do nips love sentence conjunctions so much.

>>154542435
>>154542371
you lost me

>>154542471
...Aah, really? Anon-kun is kind.

>>154542808
Anon-kun is Anon-kun, after all.

>>154542066
Actually he killed many other enemies with his spell.
One of them was a Dragon God or something.

>>154542371
here's the real problem

the genre is written by amateur web novelist from the internet

>>154543124
Amateur web novelists are no worse at writing than your average LN writer.

>>154542066
The prologue actually has someone complaining that the game incredibly horribly balanced.

The 3 use meteor attack was the project manager's "lol, we don't have enough time before release to balance it" bid.

>>154543124
Some of /a/'s more well liked shit recent times were web novels from the internet. GATE, Overlord, Gifting, ReZero, Mushoku Tensei, Shieldbro for example. Hell, Faraway Paladin gets nothing but praise and that started as a web novel.

>>154543150
web novelists ARE your average LN writer

at least these days

>>154543287
How has the Japanese publishing industry degenerated this far in such a short period of time?

>>154543494
no need for time or money when you can just pick some random fucker on a fantasy writer site and call it a day.

like how our media post twitter feeds and call it news

>>154543494
They are just following the money. Supply and demand. It would not be a problem if there weren't so many Japanese readers of web novels who were willing to shell out cash for published versions of amateur web fiction, providing the publisher with almost guaranteed sales for publishing some popular amateur webfic instead of taking the trouble to run a contest, solicit entries, select winners, and market the winners.

>>154543494
Remember, when Kawahara Reki won a LN contest and gained a publishing deal that way i.e. the traditional route, Accel World was his entry. On the other hand, Sword Art Online was just an amateur webnovel he did as a hobby that they asked him if they could publish as well, as a side deal bundled with Accel World.

Now was it the orthodox contest winning novel that brought in the big bucks or was it the piece of shit pandering web trash?

>>154543817

Trick question; they're both pandering trash.

Why isn't the US publishing industry making big bucks off of pandering trash web novels like Japan is?

>>154543884
What is Fifty Shades of Grey?

>>154543884
but they do publish webcomics

>tfw still a volume of Megatokyo in the house

>>154543929
>from the people who saw twilight

>>154543929
Still a better love story than SAO.

>>154503320

Adventuring party folks

>>154543884
Trash novels don't have as big of a market in the US since in the US people drive to work. In Japan they take the train.

>>154503142

I know we all hate Re:Zero and all but there's a fair bit if world building and more than zero character development

>>154503142
I'm not sure about this... I think Subaru can be considered as overpowered

>>154515936
Came here to say this.

>>154503762

>Beta MC loser gets super powers + all the bitches genre

>For normies

>>154541648
>The loli vampire that's really 1000 years old
>The fearsome dragon who took the form of a cute girl
These two.

>didn't use my trip to make this thread
>I'm still getting replies from that facebook image because of isekai fags
posting too fast was a mistake

>>154510909
Arisa and Mia sucks

>>154503898
Okay, say I order a steak. It's juicy, tender, and cooked to perfection.
Now let's say I order another steak, and it's the same steak, but this time I eat it in my dream.

Get what I'm saying?

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>>154547464
Ignorance is bliss.

>>154504108
Honestly, it and konosuba are my favorite isekais of the decade so far. Even though drifters is straight normie-core it was right up there with konosuba in terms of how fun it was to watch
can't wait for a season 2

>>154546664
Will your speedposting enable you to become one with the speedforce?

>>154522562
Well fuck me then

>>154547520
>normie-core

kill yourself

>>154541651
The second chapter really bothers me. MC is a fucking selfish psychopath who treats the world like his MMO game, massacring races for the sake of obtaining their cool skill set.
>Oh, I might have disrupted the ecosystem, oh well, I hope to be used by a cute girl soon!

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I would imagine Dungeon Defense being a lot more popular if it wasn't Korean as its actually a well written story for once.

If you're not reading it already you're doing yourselves a disfavor.

>>154543884
Americans don't read as much as Japan.

>>154503142
Grimgar has character development.

>>154548031
>The game that was boasted as the absolute hardest strategy game, 『Dungeon Attack』.

How is this any different from other series that tack on game mechanics to hand-waving shit that they don't want to explain?

>>154548671
At least finish the first chapter before you talk shit, you dumbfaggot

>>154548671
It's not really game-like at all.

The beginning tries to do some weird psuedo-dungeon keeper shit but the author decides that it's stupid and drops it really quickly

>>154548671
>game mechanics
But there aren't any.
There's supposed to be some weird game-like ability the main character has, but it's only really come into play a few times, and it's never really the focus.

>>154548399
Agree with that

>>154549101
I liked in the second and third books where it was used more as a thematic piece to add to the mood than as anything worthwhile as a tool.

Still, it could be happily dropped from the story without much changing at all.

>>154547607
probably

>>154503142
Hack is not even isekai, they aren't even trapped there. The characters log out often.

>>154550306
"Isekai" means "other world", in this case "a game" counts as "another world", albeit virtual.

>>154550368
Not really, but that's up to everone else's interpretations.

>>154550306

The whole plot of .hack is that one of the characters is stuck in the game world.

>>154520217
I expected the Slime Manga to be about MC using smarts to do crazy shit with his slime quirks and battling adventurers, not him being fucking OP.

REeeeeeeee: Monster is wish fullfilment at max gas with weird morality dodging. It went shit when MC started getting OP.

>>154551897
Befriending a OP dragon then eating it and using his excess magical power to empower minions is a strange way to be op however.