Tales of Zestiria X

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What does this mean?
No livewatch today?

>>154492701
If that's bilibili, he quits streaming few days ago

>>154492727
Well fuck. Is there an alternative?

>>154492739
I'm watching on Niconico

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>>154492797
Oh man, I guess I'll have to wait for the torrent like a pleb again.

>>154492739
http://mov3.co/en/tokyomx/

>>154492921
I just found that link on the archive and it didn't show anything.
And somehow it works now, oh wow.
Thanks anon.

holy shit they're seriously trying to armatize

>everyone gets furry coats
Cute

>>154493006
Is there a point to having these pointless knights around, other than having more people kissing Alisha's ass?

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I-indirect kissu

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>>154493052
That's a pretty good reason though.

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It's happening

The royal guards are Alisha's bodyguards, they have to guard her body from Rose.

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Kitaaaa

>>154493246
No, it's a shitty reason, makes Alisha even more a fucking Mary Sue.

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I.... wow. They're really trying to make up for shafting her in the game huh?

>>154493295
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And thus Alisha's decent into Suedom has been complete. We wasted 22 episodes just to get you here.

It happened

>>154493347
I have feeling Ufotable get the original version of ToZ script.

>>154493313

> tfw armatization makes your hair look stupid

>Lunarre is a good guy now.
Wait what

>>154493347
Yup, too bad Alishafags don't exist.

>>154493372
I seriously doubt it, this is just the fanfic of an Alishafag

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Yamcha'd

>>154493401
So was Symonne, everyone had to bow down to the great Alisha.

>>154493372
Yup probably. Though fujoshits will forever be salty about it

It was already obvious armatization makes you look gay, just look at Sorey whenever he does it.

>>154493313
The costume is nice.

>>154493295
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>>154493330
This is what really should have happen in the game, before baba fuck it all up

this anime is a big fuck you to baba, i'm really happy about this

>Symmone is a dragon now
Wew.

>>154493445
Fujos stopped watching the anime a long time ago, and this actually resembles some Alishafag's fanfic that I saw on the wiki that an Alishafag made up.

Also consdiering how Sorey the MC and the seraphim had to be pushed to sidelines for this to happen, I doubt it. This is just Ufotable pandering.

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I thought Dezel gonna be kill this ep

>>154493608
Judging by that preview he's gonna die next episode, definitely.

>>154493595

M-moe...

Is there a single person who gave a fuck about Lunarre dying here?

>>154493630
What's the point of it though? He's barely been a character in the anime.

>>154493647
Lower than last week's, not surprising.

IT'S UP

How many episodes are left?

>>154493313
Nice office lady skirt there.

>>154493299
>even more a fucking Mary Sue
Well yeah, but does that even matter at this point?

>>154493800
2 episodes.

>>154493800
2, maybe

>>154493820
Just saying anybody who thinks that THIS is what Zestiria was meant to be must be fucking delusional.

>>154493647
Will this be saved if they give the ending of game with long haired Mikleo and Sorey after the timeskip? Of course in case fujos still care.

>>154493968
Not enough time for it, and fujos (and Ednafags and Soreyfags and Mikleofags) have already abandoned the series so nope.

The 2nd cour was produced back when Ufotable thought that Alisha could make them money.

>>154493302
The design is nice I guess.

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>>154493271
The white-ish blonde only looks good on Sorey. It looks bad on both of the girls.

>>154494115
That's because it designed with only Sorey in mind.

>>154494078
Speak for yourself, i'm an ednafags, and i love this anime much more than that garbage game

>>154494198
Then I doubt that you're an Ednafag, considering that you're a-okay with her piss poor screen time.

>>154494259
Nope, try again, unlike you i don't whine like self entitled bitch

>>154494295
Uh huh so tell me what did the anime do better than the game? Give Alisha more screen time?

>>154494259
As opposed to the one trick pony deadpan snarker who forgot her own subplot in the game?

>>154494358
As opposed to a background decoration whose subplot is forgotten in the anime?

>>154494354
Everything, alisha is just a nice little bonus

>>154494387
>eizen and dragon purification is mentioned multiple times
>they actually try to find a way to save him
Compared to
>we should save Eizen
>twenty hours later
>whoops, time to kill him.

>>154494466

>"Well I guess purifying a dragon really is impossible after all"

Two hours later

> "I'm going to purify Maotelus, the biggest, baddest and most malevolence-infested Dragon in history."

So what was the episode about? Saving Eizen? Why is Simmone a dragon now? Why is Lunarre a good guy? Why was a bad guy to begin with? What is even happening in this show?

>>154494466
>we should save Eizen
>twenty hours later
>whoops, time to kill him.
And that's optional, you can just forget about him. Good job game.

>>154494401
And what is this everything?
There's no overarching plot.
There's a lot more pointless bullshit.
The MC is regulated to the sidelines and has zero goals or ambition.
Seraphim are non-entities.
The rules exist purely to give an excuse for Alisha to be there.
There's only been one sideplot about the war, and even that was heavily simplified from the game.

>>154494466
You mean twice (once when Edna shows up and then when Sorey kills.. I mean purifies the dragon) and then never again.

At least in the game you'd fought several dragons before going to Eizen.

>>154494507
Maotelus is an Empyeryon he's always a dragon.

>>154494541
Fanservice and I guess they had to remove Lunarre from the plot somehow.

>>154494553
As opposed to.
>we should save Eizen
>10+episodes later
>We can purify (mercy kill) dragons now so lets go to Eizen
>next episode
>oh nevermind to the North
Yes, that's an great improvement.

>>154494554
>There's no overarching plot.
There never was
>There's a lot more pointless bullshit.
Nope, sorey talk are all bullshit, and we have less of that
>The MC is regulated to the sidelines and has zero goals or ambition.
So how is this supposed to be a negative again? sorey looks and sounds like a fucking tool
>Seraphim are non-entities.
good
>The rules exist purely to give an excuse for Alisha to be there.
your insecurities are showing

The Lord of Calamity announcing he's just about ready to rape the world to death is sort of more important to deal with than a dragon who has been flapping around for a thousand years.

>>154494554
>There's no overarching plot.
>There's a lot more pointless bullshit.
>The MC is regulated to the sidelines and has zero goals or ambition.

There was no overarching plot in Zestiria aside from the general idea of getting rid of malevolence either. Exemplified by Heldalf, who is one of the most boring, disconnected and pointless final bosses in Tales history.

The game also had its fair share of pointless bullshit, and what goals or ambitions did Sorey have in the game that he's now lacking in the show?

I'm not even saying the anime is particularly good, mind you. It's that the game's story was complete shit.

>>154494657
>There never was
The game had an overarching plot. The anime does not. Unless an anime is a Slice of Life having no overarching plot is a bad thing.
>Nope, sorey talk are all bullshit, and we have less of that
>So how is this supposed to be a negative again? sorey looks and sounds like a fucking tool
>So how is this supposed to be a negative again? sorey looks and sounds like a fucking tool
So you're a waifufag who doesn't like Sorey or the seraphim, except for Edna because she's a waifu and likes the anime, solely because it has more Alisha and Rose fanservice. Have I got that right?

>your insecurities are showing
Telling the truth is showing my insecurities? Your logic astounds me anon.

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Is this a deathflag?

>>154494724
To be fair, Eizen is well above Lord of Calamity level. He only became a dragon after devouring a previous Lord of Calamity when the Shepherd failed and there were no other options.

>>154494806
>Heldalf

I actually thought Heldalf's backstory was more interesting than Zesty's main plot to be honest. Yeah, he was hilariously unfitting and disappointing as a final boss but his story was a lot more interesting than the story we got in Zesteria period.

>>154494806
>There was no overarching plot in Zestiria aside from the general idea of getting rid of malevolence either. Exemplified by Heldalf, who is one of the most boring, disconnected and pointless final bosses in Tales history.
Did you even play the game? Just about everything you said is false. The game outright tells you from the very start what you're supposed to do, Sorey was sent to return the blessings of the seraphim to the world, and deal with malevolence. Hedalf was the cause of the war continuing on, as well as the reason continuing for over 20 years as well as the reason why Maotelus became a hellion.

>The game also had its fair share of pointless bullshit, and what goals or ambitions did Sorey have in the game that he's now lacking in the show?
Returning the blessings of the seraphim, defeating Hedalf, curing Maotelus, and also reviving the shepherds. All of these things are missing from the anime. You forget that Sorey was actually doing shit while separated from Alisha, the war was just a side effect of Hedalf's influence.

>I'm not even saying the anime is particularly good, mind you. It's that the game's story was complete shit.
And the anime is even shittier.

>>154494845
>All this projecting
I know you're mad because of your precious sorey got shifted in anime, but jesus, contain your autism

>>154495115
>points out the truth
>y-you're just projecting
whatever you say waifufag.

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Fuck this piece of shit. Dropped.
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>>154495115
Not him and I don't particularly care about game or anime but, isn't MC getting shafted a very valid complaint? I mean, MC are suposed to be, well, MC.

>>154495088
Maltran had also been helping him too with Hyland.

And the manga had Symonne behind Forton if I recall right.

>>154495005
I liked how they did his backstory, but I agree him as a Hellion was hilariously bad as a edgelord. I just wish it got a bit more time and added the manga twist Sorey's dad.

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>>154495005
The problem with Hedalf is that he never got enough attention, the ideas behind the character are legit. He's a glory seeking general who got sent to secure a military strategical area, and acted in that capacity, but powers were at play that he couldn't or didn't care to understand and thus he painted a target on the village and caused it's destruction. This resulted in him being cursed by the village's leader. Said curse causes the him to lose everything and turn into a hellion. He then decides to fuck over the world.

The problem with Hedalf's story is that it's related to Camlann an the only way to properly introduce and develop him is to introduce Camlann earlier.

>>154495172
>Complain about alishafags
>Behave exactly like "alsihafags" when the game came out
>I-it's alishafags i swear
Fujoshi and their double standard, they never learn

>>154495262
Symonne was involved fucking over Rolance in the anime too.

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>>154493330
If we get princesswife-end now then we will have truly won, Alisha-bros!

And it since doesn't explain why Rose's dad figure was engulfed in malevolence flames when we saw that flashback to the betrayal, but it wasn't the prince that killed him.

>>154495088

> Did you even play the game? Just about everything you said is false. The game outright tells you from the very start what you're supposed to do, Sorey was sent to return the blessings of the seraphim to the world, and deal with malevolence. Hedalf was the cause of the war continuing on, as well as the reason continuing for over 20 years as well as the reason why Maotelus became a hellion.

> Returning the blessings of the seraphim, defeating Hedalf, curing Maotelus, and also reviving the shepherds. All of these things are missing from the anime. You forget that Sorey was actually doing shit while separated from Alisha, the war was just a side effect of Hedalf's influence.

All of which is basically fancy ways of saying 'Get rid of the malevolence'. And Heldalf's influence in regards to the war is because he's the Lord of Calamity and therefore has the most malevolence, and he wants to spread more malevolence.

Sorey was 'doing shit' by going to elemental shrines with boring puzzles. The anime doesn't need that. That said Maltran being good all along is a change I think they did because they realized they didn't budget their time well enough.

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Remind me why I should give a shit about this loud faggot again?

>>154495238
Maybe for the game, but for the anime, both alisha and sorey are the MC, it's pretty obvious that the anime will have a different route since episode 0

>>154495344
>The MC is forced to be a side character
>points out that it's not good writing to push him aside
>b-but I only care about the waifu
>yeah that's because you're because you're a waifufag
>h-how dare you say that double standards!!!
Uh huh.

>>154495238
Don't bother arguing with waifufags anon.

>>154495449
>Both alisha and sorey are the MC now
>points out that in anime that sorey and alisha are both the mc
>points out the anime are different from the game that everybody hate
>it's alishafags i swear
>no it's waifufags i swear
>fuck you ufotable for pandering to waifufags
Wew fujoshi just never learn

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>tfw Kamui didn't give you bigger boobs.

>>154495400
>And Heldalf's influence in regards to the war is because he's the Lord of Calamity and therefore has the most malevolence, and he wants to spread more malevolence.
Dude how far did you even get in the game? He had his underlings in both Hyland and Rolance forcing the war to continue for creating more problems. It wasn't just his malevolence causing the problems. There's actually an Iris Gem where you literally see Symonne use her powers to mess with the Rolance army and push them to go to war.

>Sorey was 'doing shit' by going to elemental shrines with boring puzzles. The anime doesn't need that. That said Maltran being good all along is a change I think they did because they realized they didn't budget their time well enough.
Right because blessing other villages like they did for Marlind is something that they didn't need, just like they didn't need Rolance too.
They could have easily integrated it into the plot, they just didn't try.

>>154495400
Heldalf has Maltran on his side using Alisha to antagonize the council so they back that loser Bartlow.

>>154495580
No using said logic Rose would be the MC because she's gotten more focus than Sorey does.

>>154495580
>Sorey doesn't have any personal goals anymore
>Anime creates new rules so that Alisha can have a place
>stops Sorey from purifying Ladylake in season 1 just so that she can come back in season 2.
>Sorey has been pushed to the sidelines.
>creates new characters who exist soelely to kiss Alisha's as
>Even 2ch is complaining about it.
>Y-you fujos are just mad
Uh huh.
Also considering how Sorey has been treated I wouldn't even call the MC anymore.

>>154495437
Problem is that Sorey isn't a MC anymore. Now, I do like that they gave Alisha some more focus, but I think they went the wrong way about it. They ended up focusing to much on her and unfortunately her plot does not have much to do with stopping the Lord of Calamity, Maotelus or the rest of the suposed main plot. They didn't tie it directly to into it so it feels like we have two plots that don't really feel like a bigger thing. The fact that she doesn't have the other characters with her is also a problem since all Alisha's plot has to be about Alisha and Alisha only.

Note that they also fucked that aspect with Sorey, who had the seraphs with him but did almost nothing other than act like a peanut galery or do things that overall amount to nothing.

>>154495417
His change of heart is super forced.

>>154495437
But Sorey isn't the MC anymore, he's had zero character focus, because they've removed Hedalf it's been about Alisha and solely her. Her plot is too far removed from Sorey's.

>>154495449
>The MC is forced to be a side character
The whole party should have MC status anyways in a Tales story, Sorey is involved in everything the waifu's are doing and is always being 'the one' when he's on screen. If you want to complain about something complain about the rest of the seraphim getting as much screen time as Alisha's gal-pals.

>>154495769
Her plot could have been involved if as others pointed out Maltran was still Heldalf's agent, as she's used Alisha her entire life for this.

Just that they could have focused on the part that she did care about Alisha despite forcing her to face reality by stabbing herself in the gut on Alisha's spear. Even friendly Hellions if their buttons are pushed can turn on and try to killl friends even in Berseria. Rokurou even tries to kill murder Laphicet during his battle frenzy for trying to help him, and admits it's nothing personal if his friends kill him or vice versa.

It's funny that for all this forced Berseria lore they shove in they don't focus on the stuff that made sense even for the story.

Hell looking back even the Berseria episodes did this with.
>Lulz randum dragon attack
>Magilou out of literal fucking nowhere

And removed the parts that showed Velvet freed her, and that Oscar's a major fuckup who turns one of his Seraph into a dragon.

>>154495969
>The whole party should have MC status anyways in a Tales story, Sorey is involved in everything the waifu's are doing and is always being 'the one' when he's on screen.
Except that's not what's happening here. It's just Alisha getting all the screen time. Also Sorey has top billing not Alisha, hell she's not even listed second.

Also you're wrong, in a Tales story there is always a central protagonist who gets the most focus of the party. It's never been equal.

>>154495326
It's a problem that the cast kept treating him like a joke everytime he wasn't on screen. Arotrius was not a a grat villain himself but at least he is treated with respect by the narrative. Everyone aknowledges his strenght and knows he is serious business, meanwhile in Zest Heldalf is called kittybeard and made fun of. This makes it harder to believe he is as dangerous as his seems to be.

It's even worse because his first appearence was actually pretty good. Forcefully ending Sorey's Armanization and making everyone shit themselves.

>>154495769

The seraphs felt underdeveloped in the game too because they were ignored because Baba´s VAfu and now they are ignored because of Alisha, shit is fucking hilarious.

I hoped the anime fleshed out more characters like Dezel and Mikleo.

Hell Alisha wasn´t even that interesting, what of waste of time.

>>154495417
He literally had more point in the game than the anime
And he made no sense at all in the game, not even as a plot device, like, you can remove from the game and nothing would change

>tfw Ufo gave up on give a reason to Symmone too so they just turned her in a dragon for no reason at all

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>>154495586
Now why would she get bigger boobs in Kamui Edna?

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For someone who hates Alisha so much some of you sure are obsessed with her.
Not even Alishafags post as much about Alisha as some of the salty butthurt faggots here.

>>154496100
His backstory can be Berseria levels of creepy if we got to see more closeups of his family dying horribly because they are near him or turning into Hellions.

>Heldalf murdered his newborn because it turned into a lizard devilspawn.
Also the complete lack of how much of a shit Lailah is.

>>154496168
Alisha is a shit and that fact needs to be propagated as much as possible for the good of humanity.

>>154495742
>Even 2ch is complaining about it.
That holds no weight here, if anything it makes me think the anime is better than it is given Japan notoriously shit taste.

>>154496100
Except they didn't, in the game they treated him as a legitimate threat all through out the game, whether it was kicking Sorey's ass, keeping the war going, or trying to turn him into a hellion, they always took him seriously, or feeling pity for what happened to him in the past, the narrative itself always treated him with respect.

They called him kittybeard, and yeah the party should have treated him with more fear. The thing is that the game treated him as dangerous and he'd frequently kick your ass, and the characters took him seriously in the main story, but in skits not so much.

>>154496238
Even non-2channers don't care for the anime and its underperforming.

The Meebo, Edna, and Sorey anime merchandise is selling.

At this point i doubt there will be any mention of Maotelus at all

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picked back up

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>>154495742
>Even 2ch is complaining about it.
Lel, not really

go on and read it yourself
>http://shiba.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gamerpg/1488548218/

The reception are mostly good with some anon complaining, overall it's quite similiar to niconico ratings and comments

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Alishit was a fucking mistake.

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>>154496238
Except anon are calling are calling her shit here too. Also even people who don't go on 2ch don't care for the anime. A lot of people have dropped it. Alisha merchandise isn't selling.

The anime is underperforming all across the board.

>>154496349
http://nozomi.2ch.sc/test/read.cgi/gamechara/1489053003/l50

>>154496356
Waifu of financial ruin reconfirmed.

As someone who never played the game, can anyone tell me what's the point of Lunarre and Symmone? I liked the first episode with the both of them appearing and implying something about the now non-existant plot.

I can't believe it but i prefer this ending for Symmone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Em_BMv8F7o&t=133s

>>154496422
They already get rid of baba though

i doubt otaku will still boycotting tales games anymore

>>154496436
In the game Symonne was related to Dezel's character and was the one who fucked over Rolance.

While Lunarre was just there.

>>154496436
They're side characters that have been getting no proper time. Blame Alisha for this disaster.

>>154494597
>Yes, that's an great improvement.

Yes, it is. It means Eizen isn't dying at all. Even if the anime ends and they don't purify him at all, it sets the precedent that he'll be alive in the next game.

>>154496349
You mean teh same Nico Nico where viewership for this anime is getting lower and lower every week?

>>154496099
>Also you're wrong, in a Tales story there is always a central protagonist who gets the most focus of the party. It's never been equal.
In Tales games the main party members holds near-equal importance in the main story, the party itself is the MC in Tales games with one or two characters singled out to be the 'perspective of the tale' and the 'representative of the party'.

When adapting any of them into anime format if you don't treat it as having 6-8 MCs you will fuck it up.

>>154494806
>>The MC is regulated to the sidelines and has zero goals or ambition.

So exactly how it happened in the game around the time where you finish Marlind?

>>154496436
Lunnare had no purpose in the game, he just killed one guy and appeared in a quest related to Rose, thats all, he even survived and simply disapeared from the scene.

Symmone had a major role in starting the war and fucked a lot more with Denzel

>>154496436
Symonne was a nihilist because she destroyed a Cardinal you don't see in the animes village in the past. Was miserable until she met Heldalf who saw a use for her Illusion powers that everyone thought SUCKED. Also had illusion powers.

Lunarre was one of Roses assassins like in the anime, who just went around doing terrible shit for no reason because being an assassin in Rose's Scattered Bones broke him.

>>154496532
Yep, it happens with every airing anime on niconico

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>>154496622
Thanks.

Are they actually gunna be able to wrap up the story this season? The impression I get is that they've de-railed from the game hardcore.

>>154496622
What terrble shit?
The only thing he ever did in the whole game was killing a random Seraph

The only way this shit show can be saved is if MC literally fucks Edna, Lailah or both.

Fuck fujoshits.
Fuck Alishafags.
Fuck Rosefags.

>>154496025
Agreed. They really let the oportunity slip with that one.

>>154496141
Oh, I'm not saying the game did it good. I agree that they felt underdeveloped. The fact that Zaveid is better explored in Berseria than in Zestiria will never be excusable.

In that regard do we know if they had some other plans for him that were scrapped? That part in the game's opening with him holding a gem feels so disconnected from his role in the actual game.

>>154496206
Personally I think everything about him was great, except, the execution.

>>154496268
I was refering to the skits, yeah. It's still a problem though. I can't remeber other game in the franchise where the cast constantly make fun of the bad guy in the skits. Sure, as you say, the main story still treats him with some respect, but the skits still diminish him.

>>154496168
It's fujos, only they are capable of bitching about female characters and 'waifus' this much.

>>154496524
The way it's doing things Eizen would rather be dead. He doesn't like shit.

That or the "purifying" sends them to Heaven since they disappear and that is a fucking shitty place for ahuman lover like Eizen.

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>All these buttblasted Babafags crying and screaming over Alisha armatizing

I-is it just one person sperging out? Just like how Baba used to samefag the shit out of 2ch?

>>154496545
Right because, Judith, Gaius, Natalia, Genis, etc were so as important as Yuri, Ludger, Luke, and Lloyd right? They all had their roles to play but they never received as much focus as the MC in the story.

Don't get me wrong you're right the anime should give them all some focus because the stories are connected, even if they aren't as important.

>>154496524
The anime is not canon, so no, it does not set precedence.

>>154496386
>Also even people who don't go on 2ch don't care for the anime. A lot of people have dropped it.
That's not 'complaining' about it.

>>154496674
In Tales of the Abyss they made fun of Vaan in some of the skits.

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>>154496722
This will never stop being funny

>>154496736
Tbqh Genis could've been the MC.

>>154496665
I recall he set up some kids who stole stuff to survive to die or something. He did some dick move that set Sorey and the gang to try to kill him later

>>154496722
Alisha armatizing isn't even anything particularly special.
Anyone could do it in Berseria and she probably has more resonance than a random exorcist mook in that game.

>>154496722
Nobody actually likes Alisha. Get over it.

I dropped this after the Berseria episodes. So how bad is the anime and how completely different is it from the game?

>>154496800

Fuck off, Baba.

>>154496780

Goddamn lol

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>>154496670
>Fuck Rosefags.
Rude, desu.

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So...
ep. 23: they kill LoC
ep. 24: they save Eizen
Right?!

>>154496390
You know the purpose of character anti thread is to hate on a character you don't like right?

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>>154496800
I like Alisha.
What are you gonna do about it?
Complain about me on the internet?

>>154496722
Considering how shit the sales are for Alisha merchandise, can you even say that? No body really like Alisha anon.

>>154496799
Innominant is what allowed it to happen though.

>>154496870
Nope, Eizen won't be mentioned at all

>>154496871
And the purpose of general anime thread is to like it, and anti anime thread is to hate it.

>>154496870
Give up hope anon.

>>154496870
Eizen isn't related to Rose/Alisha he does't matter.

>>154496778
I can't say I remember that but I will belive you. Still, was it a constant thing or a 'once in a while' thing? Also, was it before or after he fucked the entire cast in the ass?

>>154496799
Not like, random exorcist couldn't really armatize as the process was lethal for them and the mind broken seraph they used

Rose a shit.

>>154496800
Alisha is best

>>154496824
As an anime, it's boring trash overall.

As a spin-off mutation of the game, it's pretty obvious that they tried to undo and downright reverse the whole Rose/Alisha situation but failed to do so in a compelling manner. It's too fucking blatant and downright disgusting. It basically tries to pander and fails at almost every level. It's a shame that they'll only realize towards the end how much of a shit Alisha is.

>>154496824
It's bad
The anime is totally different from the game but it's on same level of atrocious bad

>>154496824

Anime is trying to unfuck Baba's bullshit. Feels more in line with Berseria(game) now, plot points feel tighter but a lot shit isn't addressed, which leaves a lot to be desired if you played the original Zestiria game.

An anon mentioned some time ago the anime was going to retcon shit, and one of the 2 games being shown off at the Tales this June event was going to be a Tales of Zestiria R(Remake), based on the retcons to the story.

>>154496958
Yup, they made fun of his beard and how old he looked, even when they revealed that he was evil. But it never happened often.

>>154496736
MCs are not stand alone in Tales stories, in the same way that MCs are often stand alone in anime. It's a 'lost in translation' between formats.

>>154496964
Yeah so? They have the consent of the Seraph now and they have the special artifact. If anything that only speaks more for her being able to do it.

>>154496824
It's shit, absolute shit. Like Zesitira was bad, but the anime somehow proves that it could be worse.

>>154497063
Wouldn't say it's worse
Just equally bad.
The anime is basically Tales of Zestiria:Alisha route while the game is Rose route

>>154496964
Yeah plus they had set it up so that Armatizing would make them blow up if they were on the verge of becoming dragons. Assholes like Melchior treats everyone but his flowerfus as pawns and disposable pawns. Even Magilou despite wanting her to come back to their side because he still cared in a small part of his black hole of a heart.

>>154497011
>Anime is trying to unfuck Baba's bullshit. Feels more in line with Berseria(game) now, p
But it doesn't, all of the changes that they've made go against Berseria's world building.

>plot points feel tighter
Because it has none

>An anon mentioned some time ago the anime was going to retcon shit,
Tales of the Rays uses the game as the basis for the story, the talk of Tales of Zestiria R are just baseless rumors.

>last episode addressing earth pulses and the like

They really are trying to tie it in with Berseria, aren't they? Makes the theory of a remake game even more plausible.

>>154497109
And the manga is the true route, with Mikleo and Sorey being the focus.

>>154497109
But in the game Rose at least knew when to sit her ass down so that the story could end, Anime Alisha doesn't know when to do that in the anime, and Rose still eats up screen time in the anime too.

>>154495197
Shut up Baba. The only thing "dropped" here is you from the Tales of series.

Played the game but haven't really watched the anime, just want to know if Symone has fucked over Dezel yet?

>>154497019
>But it never happened often.

Good, Van is a pretty good villain.
But, yeah, I think you are jogging my memory here. I still think Heldalf sufred more of it though. But it's been long time since I played Abyss.

A remake of the game would be a fucking massive waste of time, you fucks will realize this when Eizen remains dead/ignored.

>>154497197
They don't even know each other in teh anime.

>>154497197
It's different from the game. Only watch it if you're a filthy Alishafag.

>>154497011
>Feels more in line with Berseria
No it doesn't. In fact it's farther from Berseria than Zestiria the game was, and ignores many lore parts that could make the plot of the X work in the anime.

Like the malevolence stopping bullets for Zaveid's gun because dragons NEVER STOP PRODUCING MALEVOLENCE NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU PURIFY THEM.

Innominat literally had a limitless supply of food because dragons can never be purified regardless of how many people you have. Not without uncovering lost artefacts, like Armatization is based on Siegfried tech.

>>154497127
Nobody will ever convince me that Melchior wasn't involved in Celica's death.
Old cunt is worse than Hitler.

>>154496565
Nope, in the game Sorey says that he's going to Rolance because that's the central for their religion and he needs to continue his duty.

While I've waited a long time to see Alisha armatize, I was expecting something considerably more dramatic. They had such trouble armatizing before but then suddenly they just can. At least Alisha got a 'transformation scene' while Rose didn't.

>>154497173

not only that, they're tying the north and wellspring in mount killaraus from Berseria to the anime's plot. this actually feels like a proper follow-up to Berseria.

The problem I'm seeing is the severe lack of detail. Since they can't just jam the entire cut plot of the game into a few episodes.

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We need Lailah in this thread.

Only Lailah can purify the malevolence brought by Alisha pandering.

>>154497295
I thought it was directly implied for that to be the case since he showed up like 10 seconds after they died?

>>154497352
And then all the Shepards became hellions.

>>154497295
He was.

You didn't think he showed up afterwards to shit talk Artorius, stating he knew how to summon Innominat, seconds after it happened in a middle of nowhere village by chance did you?

This is the same guy who planned Magilou escaping and journeying with Velvet a year in advance, all to mindbreak Velvet with despair.

>>154497352
dumb bimbo

>>154497344
The funny thing is the anime is doing a shit job of tying it into Berseria, considering how much they had to change it's not even following Berseria's rules anymore. It's ironic really.

>>154497344
Mount Killarus doesn't even make sense. Maotelus resides in Artorius Throne because that's where he became an Empyrean.

>>154497444
And that's the final dungeon of the Zestiria game.

>>154497444
Mount Killaraus has the Earthpulse nexus though. They're skipping Mao and putting Malevolence straight into the earth via the Earthpulse.

>>154497233
>>154497255

What the fuck? Good thing I didn't watch this then.

>>154497484
And Innominat's Body floats above it because it's where he lived.

>>154497444
There's an odd thing; in Zesty Michael supposedly moved Maotelus to Artorius' Throne from Pendrago. Why would Maotelus not have been at Art's Throne the whole time?

>>154497502
Malevolence doing that was already a thing. Earthpulse only releases malevolence to corrupt the land during the Advent and we have yet to see signs of any Red Moons releasing malevolence upon the surface.

>>154497502
Even then Artorius's throne is way more important than it. Since didn't the Berseria cast need sacrifices in order to even use it? They're going to change that and it's going to be a departure from Berseria.

Only /v/ waifufags unironically enjoy this shit.

>>154497525
>Innominat's Body
And Best Onee-chan

>>154497444

I don't think they're going to north for Maotelus. Killaraus has the earthpulse spring, which is what I imagine Heldalf is using to gather a shitton of Malevolence from. He will probably go back to Artorious throne for Mao's armatization after whatever the new writing from this campaign happens.

Like I said, Zestiria X is writing Berseria into it's plot. No reason to write off Artorious' Throne just because an addition to the plot.

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>>154497402
>>154497369

>>154497559
Because the kingdom split up in two, and so did the main religion.

>>154497583
They needed the four sacrifices to reawaken the four Empyreans.

>>154497559
It was to be amongst the people and directly receive worship most likely.

Faith=Power amongst Seraphs. Faith can even make a weak Innominat strong.

>>154497559

Zesty the game was littered with plot holes, that's not the only one I can think off the top of my head.

>>154497353
>>154497384
Well, then, fuck him.

>>154497640
And so, how is going to going to Mount Killaraus even going to help with Malevolence when the area has only been shown to be related to the 4 empyeryons and you need a sacrifice for it to even work?

>>154497620
Considering Michael has yet to be shown building the village, lack of backstory for Sorey and Meebo, lack of Maotelus name, lack of Lailahs oath, it's more likely they removed it.

And moving to Mount Killarus doesn't connect it to the plot. Maotelus is already corrupted. It's why the land is actually corrupt.

Malevolence even in earthpulses does >>154497582

>>154497715
Because you dump it into the earthpulse nexus and it does the spreading for you.

>>154497660
it's not a plot hole, it's mentioned in the timeline Maotelus simply moved to Pendrago because of the religion and the country splitting into two. Up until then Pendrago was the center of religion and therefore the center of their religion.

>>154497662
And see those liverspots crinkle with delight as he nears orgasm? Hell no.

>>154496780
Everytime, top kek

>Dropped anime cause somehow it felt like it would be shittier than even the game
>Come to this thread and see that I was entirely right
Feels good, only assblasted waifufags would defend this garbage anyway

>>154497743
You miss the point, you need a sacrifice to make it work, and also it's never shown to be able to have the power to purify the land.

>>154497583
>Since didn't the Berseria cast need sacrifices in order to even use it?
>They're going to change that and it's going to be a departure from Berseria.

Are you sure you played Berseria, my dude? They needed 4 pure sacrifices to reawaken the Emperyan, but they couldn't reach the 4 earthpulse points required for the offering, especially considering Artorious' Throne was sitting right on top of one.

Mount Killaraus had an earth pulse spring of sorts, which exuded a metric ton of mana and was connected directly to the center of the earthpulse, so Velvet essentially jammed all 4 sacrifices against the current of mana, down into the Emperyan's gullet.

>They're going to change that and it's going to be a departure from Berseria.

I don't know how you can possibly precede your entire post with this, without even understanding what it was you were writing about to begin with. It's okay if you don't like the anime, but you can't go writing thing off just because you don't like it.

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Post yfw the anime finale takes place during the Scarlet Night.

>>154497853
>be shittier than even the game

Not possible Baba dickriders pls go.

>>154497853
>assblasted waifufags
Just Alishafags.

>>154497853

baba pls, you're not fooling anyone

>>154497715
Earth pulses are the veins of the Earth, injecting Malevolence directly at a major junction of earth pulses is incredibly efficient.

Velvet fed souls into Mount Killarus because she could inject them into the Empryeans scattered around the world all at one time.

>>154497856
Plus you have to force it down with pure brute force as it flows in reverse.

Velvet's home village made more sense. It flows in the correct path.

>>154497856
>you need a sacrifice to make it work
Heldalf isn't trying to reawaken the Empyreans
>and also it's never shown to be able to have the power to purify the land
Ufo can do whatever they want, like they always do

>>154497916
Kek, thanks for proving me right
Well see you around, I don't actually watch this shit afterall

>>154497295
He planned everything happening in Berseria before Arthur even born, he most likely was alive the first time Innocunt awake.

>>154497801
Fuck his flowers in front of him then

>>154497988
He was only a couple hundred years old I think?

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Ufotable has its priorities clear

>>154493486
Sorey: Fire/Water arts
Alisha: Wind/Earth arts
Rose: Wind/Light/Dark arts?

Fuck you baba, thats how you divide elements

>>154497856
>you need a sacrifice to make it work
No, the sacrifices are just to awake the Empyrieans.

>>154497884
>>154497938
>>154497947
>Are you sure you played Berseria, my dude? They needed 4 pure sacrifices to reawaken the Emperyan, but they couldn't reach the 4 earthpulse points required for the offering, especially considering Artorious' Throne was sitting right on top of one.
I did but I remember them also saying that using Mount Killarus was inefficient because it went against the flow of mana, the best way to use the Earth Pulses would be to go go to Artorious's Throne. In fact the only reason why they couldn't use the Spring is because of Artorius's throne. And how are they going to purify the Earth pulse? It's actually harder for them using that point.

The anime has it to try and connect the location to Berseria but it's a pointless reference.


>>154497959
So then by doing what they want they'll be going against Berseria's lore?

>>154498078
see here>>154498096

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>>154492647

What is happening in this anymore? Was I supposed to feel bad about the weird fox man who died? Why are they only just bringing up this big lion man and goth loli story? Feels rushed as hell. Now she's a dragon?
Why is Sorey so bland? Did he have any backstory in the game?

>>154498038
Probably older, he implied he witnessed Innominant before the game events

>>154498052
The irony is that Alisha and Rose merchandise isn't selling well.

>Did he have any backstory in the game?
Sorey's backstory in the game was the reason why the events even happened. Anime altered everything to focus on Alisha.

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>>154498052
Zestiria: Lailah route when, /a/?

I want to be pandered to.

>>154493486
What's happening here? Alisha is so great that Rose's could not stand?

>>154498137
Sorey in the game had a story, anime is just too focused on Alisha.

>>154498137
This anime only works if you watched the game.

>>154498183
At least Rose's shirt got on sale.

>>154498033
Flower crowns, dress the entire party in flower crowns and give him one as well, placing it on his head gently as you beam your gentlest smile. Mass murder and presenting him with the results, as far as he's concerned.

>>154498198
They are implying Alisha has better resonance than Rose through the whole episode.

>>154498198
Kittybeard's gaseous diarrhea is making Rose feel weak at the knees.

>>154492647
Is it their big day to be gay yet?

>>154498171
No Melchior was 300 Years Old.

King Claudin and him took an oath that lets humans live that long. Melchior was copying Claudin in order to get close to him, and the guy sounds like someone who'd reject what him and his own apprentice Artorius ended up doing.

>>154498242
That's what makes it all so funny, Alisha's shit can't sell, but Rose's used to sell just fine, until the anime that is.

Alisha's manga flopped too.

>>154498096
>And how are they going to purify the Earth pulse?

I don't think Heldalf went to the north to purify the earthpulse, anon.

>>154498137
Sorey had passion and purpose in game. He's a side character in the anime.

As I imagine you're a secondary, I'll just tell you the truth - the anime is a whole nother level into mediocrity because they thought Alisha's meme popularity was legit. It's terrible as a standalone because everyone's a boring piece of shit, and it's terrible as an adaptation because it might as well just be an animated fanfic.

To top it off? It's flopping hard anyway. Remember kids, meme waifus were a mistake

>>154498345
No he's at the North because Ufotable wanted to make a tie in to make a pointless tie into Berseria, even though Artorius's throne would have worked better.

Alisha a shit

>>154498267
Well I guess Dezel possessing Rose doesn't mean anything because Alisha is so great.

Is this how stories going to be written? You shit on other character just to please the waifufags who aren't even buying the BDs.
Alisha is a mistake.

>>154498267
U wot m8?
They were stating the opposite the whole episode with Edna commenting on why it was easier for Rose to do it.

>>154498464
They aren't buying any of her merchandise and they also don't attend Tales Fes.

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>>154498404
I think most of us watching realized it was going to be shit the moment we noticed Lailah's award-winning puns were gone.

>>154498464
Yes, and why are you still here by the way? go cry on twitter

>>154497894
How many episodes are left?
Do they have enough time to even finish the plot?
>post credit scene will take place a unknown amount of time after the ending.
>Seraph Sorey finally meets the first LoC.

>>154498516
He's still here because you keep replying.

>>154498516
Why are you praising Alishit anonymously?

>>154498492
They bought the game tohugh, that's all that matter, more than 70% of tales fan are tales otaku, and with how much zestiria damaged the brand, they need to apologize somehow

first they get rid of baba and make fukaya, which is a cool bro to helm the tales studio
second they just pretend baba didn't even exist to avoid further backlash from fans
third, they change the anime from the original shitty game that everyone and thier mother hates

>>154498452
get rekt baba

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>>154496824
After S1, it went to total shit sadly. It was kind of boring an aimless then but now it's very hard to even care about anyone in it because most characters have no point existing. The game had a similar problem but the anime amplifies it by stripping them of any humor, quirks or lines if they aren't alisha and rose.
Seriously, who did they expect to buy this shit? I don't understand their end game here.

>>154498096

I'm not sure why you're trying to assume Heldalf is trying to purify the wellspring, if anything he's taking the world's seeping malevolence from it. The spring runs opposite of the flow of mana, shooting right from the middle of the nexus. It's why it was such a useful spot for the sacrifice, since they could reach all 4 Emperyan at the same time, instead of having to somehow manage to be in 4 different locations at the same time on the Scarlet Moon, with Velvet being the only party member able to contain their souls for the offering.

Also you should read the entirety of a post before you reply to it. Artorious' Throne was just one earthpulse point capable of reaching one of the Emperyan, there were actually 4 points designated to each.

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>>154498464
>Advertise Alisha as a major character even though they knew damn well she wasn't important
>Alishafags eat her up
>Game comes out, Alisha isn't important
>Alishafags get pissed off and start sending out death threats
>Make a DLC about Alisha
>Alishafags demand it to be for free
>Release it for free
>Alishafags still mad because it doesn't focus on Alisha enough
>make an anime that inflates Alisha's screen time and makes her even more important than Sorey
>Alishafags are happy but don't even buy any merchandise or BDs.

Has there ever been a character to cause a bigger shitstorm?

>>154498493
Yeah, that was the first sign desu wa.

>>154498516
>groveling in literal shit
Why? Does Alisha's penis taste good?

>>154498464
>You shit on other character just to please the waifufags who aren't even buying the BDs.

Pretty much. Zestiria had potential but it seems every entry is going to be a huge blemish aside from berseria. They should put the universe to rest now.

>>154498684
Lightning

>calling alisha a mary sue

is there a justification for this in the new series or people are misusing the term again?

>>154498684
I'm just happy because of the shitstorm baba is finally gone

though i do wish otaku are actually succed on killing baba and his family for real, it's a shame

>>154498444

>their at the north because I wanna bitch and moan about the anime instead of the arguments and evidence presented on this thread

Okay, Baba.

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Alisha should be louder and have access to a time machine.
No but seriously, how big would the shitstorm be if she became a Seraph at the end like Sorey did while Rose still died of old age?

>>154498753
A Mary Sue is a glorified/perfect character with no flaws that the show bends itself for.

So nah, everyone's pretty correct in their usage. Anime Alisha is cancer that spread too far.

It's a weird feeling - when you are unfamiliar with the source material, and yet the adaptation still feels like a complete mess.

>>154498614
Except the people who cared forgived them with Berseria, no one is buying the anime, and it's just making people dislike Alisha now. They're not making money off of the anime and it isn't doing anything for their reputation either.

>first they get rid of baba and make fukaya, which is a cool bro to helm the tales studio
Baba was promoted because of bullshit he pulled and left on his own, and Fukuyama pulled the same thing and as far as I know isn't the head of Tales Studio either.

>second they just pretend baba didn't even exist to avoid further backlash from fans
Fans who are proving themselves to have been in the minority

>third, they change the anime from the original shitty game that everyone and thier mother hates
You mean the same anime that's been flopping and has been losing it's viewership more and more with each passing week?

>>154498839

>Rosefags are this assblasted their girl doesn't sit on the throne alone

I can't honestly tell if Baba is actually in these threads.

>>154498803
>anon points out that the change was pointless
>y-you must be Baba
Retarded Alishafags everyone.

>>154498614
People who bought the game have nothing to do with people who like alishit. She was a flop through and through and I highly doubt she'll even place in the overall talesfest popularity contest and we'll never hear of zest again. And a shitty anime no one cares about or buys isn't a good apology for a bad game. Plus a very small segment of fans actually care about corporate turnovers.

>>154498684
Alishafags actually buy the merchandise and the BDs. The problem is that they're a loud minority so they can't do shit. It's just another example of a corporation misusing the social media, where the loudest and most autistic fans often get confused with the majority, not the first time and neither the last.

>>154498747
Lightning was actually liked on Japan, she was the half of an extremely popular pairing (Hopurai), SE allegedly was happy with the sales of the FFXIII trilogy and they came on a right time because SE needed some quick cash after the FFXIV disaster. Apple and oranges.

>>154498871
>Fukuyama pulled the same thing

Can someone go into detail on this? I heard another person from Namco did something similar to Baba, but I didn't know who.

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almost visible.

>>154498753
Nope they're right in this case, Alisha is a Mary Sue in the anime.

>>154498908
Rose is shit too, doesn't stop Anime Alisha from being just as shit.

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>still no webm
Let's fix this.

>>154498938

>points out the change was useless
>in spite of all the evidence claiming otherwise
>pulls "not an argument" out of his ass

Here you go.

>>154498096
>>154497884
>>154497938

>>154498969
So why did she become a dragon again?

>>154499040
We magical girl anime now.

>>154498908
Two mary sues doesn't make it any better. Although I'd hardly call anime Rose a mary sue. Alisha had people actually worshiping her. She has zero flaws and even Lunarre is now a fanboy for no apparent reason. The fact that she has Rose sucking her clit is just turning the game's problem around onto another character. If you complained about Rose and see no problem with Alisha you're a hypocrite.

>>154498961
Fukuyama got a cosplayer pregnant, and decided to marry her. Because she was fucking him he decided to force her into the game he was working on and the game turned to shit. Turned out she has no talent in voice acting.

>>154498871
Baba was promoted because of bullshit he pulled and left on his own, and Fukuyama pulled the same thing and as far as I know isn't the head of Tales Studio either.
"promoted" and he left because it's a shameful display, he's basically being ignored and left to rot

fukaya is the producer now

>minority
if they're the minority then baba will not lose his position and the shitstorm won't exist

>>154499044
None of that disproves my point anon. The change is still pointless considering what Artorius's throne is. It's a ponitless change.

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>>154499094
You moron, Fujishima, one of Tale's head artists, did that, not Fukuyama.

>>154498908
>he thinks we give a shit about Rose
She's shit too, except now she's nerfed shit.

Game Rose = Anime Alisha and only delusional dipshitfags would say otherwise

>>154499094
Good job mistaking people.

>>154499094
>>154498871
>Fukuyama pulled the same thing and as far as I know isn't the head of Tales Studio either.
>Fukuyama got a cosplayer pregnant, and decided to marry her. Because she was fucking him he decided to force her into the game he was working on and the game turned to shit. Turned out she has no talent in voice acting.

LMAO, confirmed for having no clue, who the fuck this fukuyama guy that you speak of?

the one who got the VA pregnant is the artist for sorey and rose, the one who deleted his twitter because of the backlash from zestiria

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-06-29/20-year-old-cosplayer-announces-marriage-to-51-year-old-oh-my-goddess-author-kousuke-fujishima/.103771

>>154499114
Baba got a studio at Squareenix. I don't see how that is worse than working at bamco.

>>154499183
So we're going to have Inomata and Okamura designs for all future Tales games then?

>>154499214
>dipshitfags

This is pretty good.

>>154499048
She had a despair boner.

>>154498404
>Sorey had passion and purpose in game

Sorey had all the agency in the world before they finished Marlind and went into the war. After that he became a side-character all the way until the second showdown in Landon, where they fight the dragon.

Suddenly, out of the left-fucking-field, Sorey had found his "answer", to a question that wasn't even pondered at all until that point. The way that theme was presented was so fucking jarring. Like they writers went "oh yeah, this is a thing we've been cooking up, may as well just drop here in the middle of this climatic battler".

Like they tried jam an entire goddamned book in that 15 minute scene, except they didn't give any exposition at all.

>>154499114
>if they're the minority then baba will not lose his position and the shitstorm won't exist
If they weren't a minority then the BD and Alisha merchandise wouldn't have tanked. They were just a loud minority.

Baba did a lot of shit to piss people off, starting which his reply about the bugs in the game that they never fixed, and he was probably the one who decided to push Alisha to begin with even though according to the scriptwriters she wasn't ever meant to the heroine, which is what started the mess in the first place.

>>154499272
Fujishima fuck up was in another company so Namco has no reason to hate him.

Fujishima is nega Baba. Instead of putting a VA because he wanted to fuck her, he fucked a VA and then he put her in a game.

>>154499259
It's a new small company under many of square enix subsidiaries, they didin't even know if they will only produced phone games or making a budget rpg games on console

most probably some indie little budget game that no one cares about, good riddance

>>154499272

is that good or bad? I like Okomura designs.

>>154499316
Game Sorey's passion and purpuse went up and down. At the beginning it was, Sorey finding his "answer" was shown at several, first him losing his ability to see seraphim which made him realize that if people can't see seraphim then they won't believe that they exist, he actually points this out in a few skits, then the Iris Gem when they find out about that there used to be more than one shepherd in the past, and then finally when they find out that Maotelus could make it happen. Sorey ponders on it through out the game, he just doesn't yell it on the mountains, he just says it in off hand conversations.

>>154499316
Whoever writes the anime script should be exiled, literal fanfic is better characterized than this flaming garbage

Atleast it's almost over and Zestiria can fade back into the abyss forever

>>154499272
He didn't do anything wrong,the man got lucky with his fame and bagged up a qt. There was a thing with a Compile Heart game where he plugged his wife as a terrible VA, but its a different story.

>>154499339
Nah, alisha are always meant to be heroine, just look at the magazine, merchandise, in shop game , etc

and fun facts: the scriptwritter for zestiria Takashi Hasegawa is not involved in berseria, he's the second most hated tales of staff in japan, they also blame him for zestiria fiasco

i won't be surprised if he also left bamco soon

>>154499517

I'm talking about the game's script, though.

>>154499523
Yeah he did something wrong.
He worked on a Compile Heart game.

>>154498753
People just use the term for a character they don't like. It's silly really.

>>154499529

>Alisha had a fully orchestrated theme
>Sorey had a theme
>Zaveid had a theme
>All 4 seraph had an arranged version their trial dungeon's music as their themes
>Rose didn't have a theme at all

I don't even know what happened there. Did they just run out of money at the end?

Also, Eleanor has an arranged version of Alisha's theme as hers, I don't know if that was intentional story thing or a budgeting problem.

>>154499316
Game-Zestiria's flaw was that it introduced the obligatory elemental dungeon quests as the meat and potatoes without first establishing the characters and their intricacies early on. End result is that the characters became walking bazingas that said witty things but had no substance.

>>154499529
Not according to the character designers and head scriptwriter. Hell her first appearance doesn't call her the heroine. According to Yamamoto she was meant to be normal fag of the group, not on Sorey's level. They probably just pushed her because they wanted otakubucks, but she was always just a regular party member not the heroine.

>and fun facts: the scriptwritter for zestiria Takashi Hasegawa is not involved in berseria, he's the second most hated tales of staff in japan, they also blame him for zestiria fiasco
Zestiria has two script writers the head scriptwriters was Yamamto, Hasegawa only worked on some skits. Yamamto worked on the actual story and on Berseria.

>>154499716
I think it's the other way around the first time you hear the themes they're used to introduce the seraphs.

Alisha is beautiful but her armatization is just more beautiful.

>>154499316
Maotelus sent the Iris Gems to keep Sorey on track because FUCK YOU Lailah you are once again making the Shepherd not do their job.

Plus the Shepherd does go around and help others. King Claudin loved it

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>>154499765
>the characters became walking bazingas

fucking hell

>>154499630
I think you might need to learn what the term means first anon.

>>154499716
Eleanor's theme and Alisha's theme are nothing alike.

>>154498489
That's not it. They said Rose was used to being possessed so in that way it was easier for her but alisha had better resonance

>>154499792
>I think it's the other way around the first time you hear the themes they're used to introduce the seraphs.

Oh I hadn't realized.

>>154499806

Lailah was trying to make Artorious 2.0 in the game.
>lmao u cant help these baby fries with their medicine, u gotta focus on the big fish in Pendrago and Rolance

That shit always rubbed me the wrong way> I'm glad Berseria took a hot, steamy shit on Lailah's ideals.

>>154499863
Post a screenshot, I didn't see that anywhere.

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The things i want to do with her

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>>154499806
>because FUCK YOU Lailah you are once again making the Shepherd not do their job.
Reminder that Lailah did nothing wrong.

>>154498753
It's two turbo mad fujos who spend 24/7 on these threads

>>154499765
>End result is that the characters became walking bazingas that said witty things but had no substance
Wow, and now in the anime they just say nothing at all! Zestiria is amazing.