The great debate.

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The winners are their girls. Shiki and Shirou simply get along and suffer together as harem MCs

Saitama

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Shiki > Shirou
Arc > Seiba
Akiha > Rin

Simple as that.

They would probably just team up and have homosex.

>>154383141
He gets BTFO by Shiki

>>154382814
If you actually want an answer don't ask on 4chan.

>>154382814
Kamijou Touma, an ordinary high school boy that you could find anywhere, could beat both of them

>>154382814
Shiki beats Shirou by an inch then dies himself from power overload, rendering his victory null.

>>154383146
This.

>>154387880
This pretty much. Either of them working at full power for too long will end up killing themselves.

>>154387820
>Shiki stabs him
>Touma dies

Wow so powerful 10/10

>>154382814
If you want a serious answer, then it depends on the version of Shirou.

Fate Shirou gets BTFO with ease by Shiki, UBW Shiki wins if he can activate the reality marble since Shiki will overload himself fending off the sword spam or cutting the reality marble and HF Shirou is near Servant-level physically thanks to Archer's arm so could probably take him on with just Kanshou and Bakuya.

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>>154388265

Shiki vs. Shirou
"If powers are at max and we ignore the point of self-destruction caused from overflow then Shiki will win. No matter how much Shirou makes swords, Shiki will keep 'killing' them. It's a different story if it's possible to use a 'Mana Burst' like Excalibur."

>>154388771
Missing where I mentioned that he could in fact just kill UBW, I said that he likely couldn't do it without overloading himself or at least falling unconscious, which just leaves Shirou open to finish the job. If it was Ryougi then that's an entierly different story.

>>154389017
That's ignoring the point of self destruction though, which is Shiki's major flaw. Shiki would just overload his brain from killing so many swords.

>>154389192
Reality marble are different thing, but an object like sword are just like cutting a chair, they're both just an object.

Nothing overload about that.
The eyes aren't straining harder everytime he kills something, it overloads only if he tries hard to look for the lines.

>>154388265
>overload himself fending off the sword spam
Except we don't know how many swords will it take to overload his brain by cutting them.

>or cutting the reality marble
No, nothing has been said about whether he will overload his brain by cutting the reality marble itself.

>>154388265
>versions of Shirou
nigga don't even go there

The Shiki from Ciels route who drank Arcuieds blood could take them all

>>154389505
He strains himself simply comprehending the lines on concrete walls, never mind concepts such as reality marbles. The main difference is comprehension, comprehending the death of a chair would be far easier than comprehending the death of a reality marble. He has to connect to a circuit which is the same of what he has wishes to see the death of, which is why viewing the lines of simple walls gives him a massive headache.

>>154389529
That's a good point regarding how long he'd last aganst the sword spam. My view is that Shirou would last long enough with the spam to shut Shiki down, since simply seeing the lines and points of objects he views as "not alive" (walls, chairs etc) already strains him he wouldn't last long enough to kill Shirou. Or like I said he fucks himself by killing UBW but rendering himself useless afterwards.

Is Shiki fast enough to cut the barrages of UBW? Remember, his Nanaya abilities only manifest when dealing with monsters. Shirou is a human (sword).

>>154390081
Assuming it's Nanaya or Shiki when he is Satsukinji (which is after Tsukihime when his eyes are too powerful for the glasses to work) then I assume he would be able to cut the barrage. It just comes down to wether Shirou's mana gives out from UBW or Shiki's brain overloads first.

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>>154390081
He cut Arc into 17 pieces in less than a second.

Related question because Fate thread.
Are the anime adaptations good or should I just play the VN?

Can Shiki cut servants?

>>154390385
Play the VN, is not even debatable.

You enjoy the anime even more than if you watch it first

>>154390385
Zero is a very good adaptation, 2014 is hit or miss at times but it's good and you get enough of the proper information from it, though the animes have a tendency to do a shit job of portraying Shirou and it doesn't end in this one. If you're new, I'd watch them and then if you're still interested download the VN.

>>154390441
Doubtful, Nasu himself said even Ryougi could only barely fight a Servant defensively and she's a few levels higher than Shiki, including her eyes.

Going by FGO canon, Shiki loses because his timeline ceases to exist after the human order prunes it, while Shirou at least is still alive because Fate path will always survive.

>>154390378
>True Ancestor
>Not a monster

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I'm more of a "nothin personnel" kinda guy

>>154390642
>FGO
>Canon

Pick one

Gilgamesh vs Types. Go.

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>>154390848

>>154387820
Both of them would beat the shit out of Touma.

>>154390984
Touma has precog and invisible thing though.

>>154390945
Normal dude with a gun can kill them
Gilgamesh probably has a gun somewhere in his arsenal
There

>>154390848
this guy gets it

>>154390385
Play the VN.

Zero is a prequel but it was written afterwards so it is meant to be touched after reading the VN.

Here, I'll even spoonfed you because I'm in a good mood today.

https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=427133
http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/4745-Fate-Stay-Night-Realta-Nua-PC-version-Mirror-Moon-TL-insertion-project

Make sure to find a walk trough and go through every bad end whenever you can before progressing, you unlock stuff by going through the bad ends.

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>>154391112
>Touma has precog
So does Shiki. Kind of.