UQ Holder! 134 (2017) (Digital) (danke-Empire)

Can someone dump it please?

>>154356523
Why? Just download it and read it.

>>154356588
I'm on mobile so I can't.

>>154356662
Fucking hell, dude.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.kervala.comicsreader&hl=en

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Is she the best or is she THE best?

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More Kirie.

In the final chapters of Negima, when we see the future of the Sleeping Asuna timeline, Touta is nowhere to be seen, and Eva is content to move on to another timeline without him.

This is proof that Touta ends up with Kirie.

>It's a Kirie chapter

Gross

>>154357219
That is proof that at that time, Akamatsu wasn't thinking about making a sequel.

>>154357241
>first stage: denial

Eva gets cucked again. No Springfield dick for you.

Man nobody gives a fuck about this series anymore.

>>154357992
Going on hiatus for several months in a row was a bad choice.

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Starting dump

What are the chances of a Tota and Fate arc? I want to see what Fate does while UQ is having adventures

>>154358129
Even prior to the hiatus the threads were very small.

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>>154358445
Threads were definitively more lively back then.

Honestly, there was little to discuss too. Everyone wants to get to the damn tourney and Akamatsu kept going through more and more harem hijinks arcs. The stupid water race was specially painful to sit through.

>>154358521
The chapters are better now but even during that dreadful mini arc the threads were about 100 posts

>>154357099
>>154357133
absolute trash mary sue by the very definition of mary sue, not just by not liking her

Can i read this manga without having read negima?

>>154358811
the ties to negima you actually see are minor until recently, you'll be really lost for the recent stuff though

Man even Naru wasn't thisfar in denial. Just man up already Kirie.

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>>154358811
Yes, but you'll get confused by a lot of characters who show up. Earlier stuff is pretty standalone with references here and there, but the last 30-40 chapters have been Negima-focused.
Negima's first quarter is difficult to get through, but after that it gets very enjoyable.

people still read this shit?

>>154358996
>>still
Did it get bad or was it never good?

>>154358996
People still read Fairy Tail so yes.

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>>154359031
It's a very average manga, but I'd say its worth reading. It highpoint was very enjoyable, but it's lowpoint was nearly unbearable.

>>154359076
It's definitely nowhere near as good as Negima.

>>154358996
it's finally giving some negima closure

>>154359031
it was always mediocre at best but oh so perfect kyrie solving every problem turned it into absolute garbage for a while

>>154359127
I wish Kirie got paired with Santa like Natsumi was with Kotaro.

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>>154359092
I completely agree, and even though I'm a huge Negimafag, I've enjoyed UQ for the most part, even if it has flaws. The only part of UQ I don't really like is timetravel asspull because Ken is lazy, and the year long harem arc with 2 new girls no one liked.

Eva > Kirie > Mizore > Honoka = Isana > Cutlass > Karin > Shinobu

>>154359187
The action in the series is top tier but the romance is subpar. I wish Ken would push the harem shit away and just focus on the kickass fight scenes.

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>>154359187
>The only part of UQ I don't really like is timetravel asspull because Ken is lazy, and the year long harem arc with 2 new girls no one liked.

Pretty much this. I find UQ entertaining when it focuses on the UQ characters with some Negima sprinkled here and there, it becomes insufferable when it goes full haremshit and full Negima too.

I don't really dislike Kyrie but I agree with the people complaining about her here. She's a black hole whenever she's on screen. Just look at this damn chapter, it's the damn conclusion to vs Negi and 3/4 of the chapter is kyaaaa Kirie confessed except not really and she blushed and loves Tota so much waaaaaaaaai doki doki.

>>154359217
Exactly this.

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>>154359217
>The action in the series is top tier but the romance is subpar. I wish Ken would push the harem shit away and just focus on the kickass fight scenes.
I agree, Ken can save time and integrity if he turned it into a pure action manga, like the last 10 volumes of Negima. I really like the world-building and mystery of UQ Holder, but harem hi-jinks gets in the way too often and makes it lose hype. We already know which girl is going to win, so I hope Ken focuses on other characters' growth and relationships.

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And that's it lads.

I pray to all possible gods that tournament arc is next but we all know that's never gonna happen.

>>154358784
>>154358808
>>154358835
>>154358862
>>154358901
>>154358934
>>154358971
MUH nutbladder. Ken is setting her up big time.

>>154356425
Wow this shit is still going?

>>154359286
The harem hijinx worked a lot better in Negima and not this series... I don't mind the girls in this series but a lot of them just suddenly started liking Touta. Only Kuromaru is believable in this scenario.

>>154359310
>not chained to Negi Ialda-sama
I hope this means she will join Touta's harem. Touta is missing a brown semen demon after all.

>>154359092
Yeah, it's kind of a shadow desperately trying to be "like the real one". Or at least that's the impression this one is giving me.

>>154359441
It is evident that Ken is trying to recapture the magic sometimes. UQ is much better when it tries to be its own thing. It doesn't need hijinx, just action.

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>>154359404
My main issue with the girls in this series is that they're all 3-A characters wrapped into one. The only female character who isn't a composite of a Negima character is Dana, who hasn't had an appearance in 100 chapters.

>>154359441
>desperately trying to be "like the real one"
this is recent and is because it's finally giving us a negima ending, most of the run it was doing it's own thing

>>154359200
I don't know who's half of the girls on your post. I really don't know what Akamatsu thinks he's doing with so much substance-less fluff.

>>154359493
Hijinks would be fine if they were more than just haremshit hijinks. Something that's really missing here is fluff and interactions between all the characters. It's really tiring how whenever there's time for a SoL thingy it's about how much one character wants Tota's cock.

>>154359513
I think Karin is basically Motoko but other than that I agree.

>>154358966
Back when Evangeline was awesome in everything. Good times.

>>154359584
Touta is just not as charming or interesting as Negi.

>>154359614
I don't particularly dislike Tota, but rather, the situations he's put into. He's an okay character when he's in his element but haremshit situations are simply not it.

>>154359200
>Eva > Kirie > Mizore > Honoka = Isana > Cutlass > Karin > Shinobu
translation
>Yukihime > Kirie > ?? > ? = ? > ? > ? > ?

I have no idea whose girl is who based on just the names, which is funny considering that I could probably name you the entirety of Negima's class.

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Here's the main drawing for Ken's exhibit, since it's coming up soon.

>>154359671
Hey, Karin's alright.

>>154359614
It's the "genki" thing. Think about it, just how many times have we seen the
>genki headrushing protagonist with self-healing powers
?

At least Negi was kinda original with being extremely young and a mage in training with no healing or bullshit powers of sorts.

>>154359708
Negi had to earn Magia Erebea and Touta was just gifted it.

>>154359708
>Negi
>No bullshit powers of sorts
C'mon son.

>>154359750
Like what exactly?

>>154359740
And Negi was gifted with super duper hax magic genius intelligence and Touta can't cast even the most basic stuff.

Besides, it's not like if Touta can perfectly use Erebea. There's a reason he's been working his ass training all the time.

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>10-16 more days until UQ's first announcement trailer
Lets hope it's not shit like Negima's anime
it'd be nice to have a bit more traffic in UQ threads

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>>154359750
Not at the start. What made Negi endearing to me as a character was reading him follow with the full "mage" progression, starting from humble origins with shit like Magic Missile then moving to better spells and then ultimately haxx'ing reality itself.

Touta was just like okay. He's a vampire so he's already strong I guess, can't die and self regenerates... there's no growth or sense of danger when he fights. I don't really look forward to him getting on the haxx tier since he started almost on it already.

>>154359796
But even through most of the series he wasn't a master mage by any degree.

>>154359816
Can't wait for all the idiots that inevitably come whenever there's an anime adaption.

Besides, let's not kid ourselves, the threads will end up becoming mostly about Negima and Negima vs UQ arguments.

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>>154359671
The only girls who matter are Eva, Kirin, and maybe Karin anyways. The rest are side heroines existing for fanservice.

>>154359796
>And Negi was gifted with super duper hax magic genius intelligence and Touta can't cast even the most basic stuff.
No. Negi studied a lot more than children of his age because of the trauma when his sister+village got petrified, that's why he can cast more powerful spells than normal. And even then when Negi fights that mid-level Count Monster or whatever he can barely hold on only because of all the effort he made into learning advanced spells.

>>154359898
You mean "Yukihime", Eva is nowhere to be seen.

>>154358971
cock block

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Does anyone know if the revised versions of Negima that are being released have new content, or if it's just a reprint? I have no clue, and haven't seen anyone talk about them.

I did like the touch of Asuna sticking with Negi too. Touta better tie Kirie with a rope or something before she also follows suit.

>>154359997
"Revised" ? You mean just reprinted

>This fucking argument again
Nagi was gifted, Negi was also gifted. But somehow when Touta has hax is wrong. Despite the fact that his hax is actually fucking him up and he's been training like mad to learn how to use it and is nowhere close to mastering it.

When it's a fact that everyone and their mom that matters in Negima is hax as fuck and we've always dealt with people who are the tip top of the bestest best ever.

But it's wrong when Touta does it.

>>154359997
if he had as big a falling out with the publisher as rumors say I doubt he'd make new stuff for them

>>154360042
see >>154359933
You're ignoring Negi and Anya's backstory entirely.
Is Negi really intelligent? Sure. Did Negi work his ass off to study more advanced magic than normal kids his age did? Also sure.

Touta was gifted with it, literally born on "epic level" tier template. That's why it feels wrong with him.

>>154359959
I dislike Yukihime, but it's fair to say we have a decent of Eva in the past 40 or so chapters though.

>>154360041
Everywhere I've read, they've called them revised copies.

>>154360042
>Nagi was gifted
And?
>Negi was also gifted
He was still inexperienced and got fucked he just wasn't a weakling.
>>>154360042
>But somehow when Touta has hax is wrong
Touta was literally born to be this perfect amalgamation of Negi and Asuna and already has late Negi's techniques at the start of the manga, its like how Naruto has the most powerful evil monster inside of him but is a complete fucking idiot so shit comes easy for him despite that, Negi actually had to work for his title given who his father was and shit wasn't just given to him while Touta already has everything he just needs to master them hence why he already made someone strong like Karin look like a weakling in a couple of months.

>>154360156
And the epic level powers he was born with weren't enough, let's throw some vampire powers on as well.

>>154360236
The difference between Touta and Negi is abundantly clear. Negi was born with a gift but had to train his ass off to be even half as good as his predecessor.

Touta was born with a gift and flukes his way into understanding it. Touta has a decent (if overused for shonen heroes) personality but the application of his powers really hurts him.

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>>154360042
>kid genius
>sweats his ass off on books
>and can still only really cast Magic Missile at the start of the story
>gets roflstomped by mid-tier shmucks because after all he is just a kid

v.s.

>born a vampire
>born with self-regeneration
>high daywalker
>can use Magic Cancel
>can use Magia Erebea
>overall immortal

It's so fucking obvious that Kirie already won.

The other girls can't even compete.

>>154360477
>Story was supposed to be about Eva finding happiness
>She gets blue balled by three generations of Springfields

>>154360673
The best part about this is the left 6 kisses Negi is totally surprised. The latter three are just him totally cool with it.

>>154360673
>ken never showed the 3+ gay kisses on screen
Does he hate fujos?

>>154360741
Latter six, rather.

>>154360741
No, the best part about this is that he's supposed to be their teacher and tutor still.

>>154358934
Touta, you mad man.

>>154356425
Thanks OP.

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Good times.

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>>154361337
UQ is basically diet Negima...

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>>154361337
Best duo.

>>154361563
Yeah this is one of the things UQ holder is desperately lacking: relationships OUTSIDE the MC.

It seemed like we were heading there with either friendship or romance on Kyrie and Santa, but that got dropped completely and now Kyrie is another one of the girls after Touta.

In Negima, we had multiple relationships between the girls, like Yue/Nodoka, Kaede/Tatsumiya, etc.

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>>154361670
>It seemed like we were heading there with either friendship or romance on Kyrie and Santa, but that got dropped completely and now Kyrie is another one of the girls after Touta.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that remembers that Kirie and Santa were on track for being paired together throughout the school and Dana arc, then got scrapped during the harem arc. Sad too, because they meshed well together. He'll probably get with Karin by the end of the manga.

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Say what you want, Negi trumps Touta as a MC 10:1.

>>154361767
I was really hoping that Kirie/Santa was going to be this manga's Natsumi/Kotaro. That couple was great.

Part of me at least secretly hopes that maybe Sayo and Santa meet up....

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Does this look like the face of mercy to you?

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>>154361987
No, this is

>>154358686
rude

Also Fate needs to chill out.

>>154358743
>>154361987
>Jack exaggerating his looks
>Albireo seems unsure
>Yue doesn't give a shit
>Nodoka looks nervous
>Cutlass only one that looks the part

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>>154362101
Fate isn't going to calm down until he gets his boyfriend back from his mom.

>>154359416
She's not going to join his harem faggot.

>>154362325
Man why doesn't Ken dabble in incest?

>>154362344
Because she's a nigger and has done nothing that'll make Touta forgive her.

>>154362344
She's a cunt and unlikable.

>>154362373
She'll be joining UQ or Fate's team, guaranteed, after a bit of persuasion. She won't be a part of Touta's harem, though.

>>154362391
So is Kirie. And Karin.

>>154362344
>what is Negi and Asuna

>>154362473
We don't know how blood related they are and even then they never hooked up.

>>154358427
so next time they will also need to fight asuna?

In RPG terms

Touta (base) = level 40
Touta (ME) = level 65
Yue/Nodoka = level 75
Eva (base) = level 80 (nerfed)
Eva (ME) = level 90 (nerfed)
Rakan/Albireo = level 90
Fate = level 95
Eva (full power) = 100
Asuna = level 120
Negi (ME) = 130
Kirie = 5 cats


Touta has a long way to go

>>154362422
Kirie and Karin are still better than her.

Cutlass should get her ass completely beaten before she even thinks about changing sides.
>endangers innocent people
>tortures the MC
>makes a guro page with Kirie
I don't see how anybody finds her likable other than her being a girl and brown.

>>154362659
I don't see how anyone finds Kirie likeable but that's just me.

>Finally confesses
>Goes back to being an uber bitch even after Touta is being a gentleman to her

>>154362644
I'd say jack fucking rakan's level changes to around that of whatever he's facing at the time, rather than a set one

>>154362422
I think anon is complaining that Cutlass is a terrorist who went around blowing up people.

Karin and Kirie don't seem to be doing that. Granted Karin is literally Judas.

Thanks for Ichi-F.

>>154356425
you think someone could upload chapters 132 and 133 since the previous ones were a bit small?

>>154358743
Since when do they have long range telepathy? They couldn't do that without a pactio back in Negima.

Except for Cosmo Entelechia, because that group says fuck the rules.

>>154360477
I'm still hoping for Kuroumaru end.

>>154356425
God bless you OP, I thought rips for this series had become a lost cause.

>>154364122
Nah, it's been a thing for high tiers to have telepathy. Rakan had it, too, back in Negima.

>>154359187
>UQ nowhere as good as Negima
>I completely agree, even though I'm a huge Negimafag
>even though I'm a huge Negimafag
>Thread goes on to jacking off to Negima and shitting on utter trash garbage that is UQ and if you like it you're not considered as a living being but just a pathetic pile of shittiest scum garbage
Can't wait when Negima cast shows up again and UQ got shitted on more and more.

>>154359179
Thank god Touta finally understands he needs to hear Fate's side of things, too. I was worried he'd shrug off seeing him break down in front of Negi since he loves to hate the guy.

>>154364245
>Holding anyone to Rakan's standard.

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>latter half of MW arc and so on in Negima was garbage
>people are somehow surprised UQ quality goes down the more Negima there is

>>154364245
I remember they had short range shit, but going across the city seems new.

>>154364448
>in Negima was garbage
Found the subhuman

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>>154364448
UQ has been getting more interesting though, ever since it invested in Negima. UQ started off strong, too. It's just that Ken isn't good with trying to continue Negima, while trying to tell a new story, that's why he made it much more Negima-focused. Last 20 chapters have been the most interesting ones since Dana's arc.

>>154362174

>you will never live in a pocket dimension playing videogames with loli-eva

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>>154364498
>Negimafag unable to acknowledge anything slightly bad about Negima

Checks out. MW arc dragged on far too long and the stronger Negi got the more bland his character was (he got better again once the arc ended). And don't even try to argue that shitty Sports Fest was good in any way.

>>154360156
>>154360236
>>154360390
If Yukihime wasn't already training him as she was raising him he'll be also be splattered all over the terrain constantly because he'd just be a strong zombie if he didn't have any kind of underlying martial training.

However that'd also likely be more interesting, reminiscent of early Yakumo in 3x3 Eyes. Hyper regen and immortality in a protag is at its best it when it is used in a way to dramatically turn the tables when you're down(or the underdog) or when it's the only thing letting them slugging it out as equals.

>>154360390
>The difference between Touta and Negi is abundantly clear. Negi was born with a gift but had to train his ass off to be even half as good as his predecessor.

That actually can be said for the both of them. Negi studied hard at magic school, Touta gets put through physical training by Yukihime. When they both hit the big wall of reality they they're constantly forced into even more training.

We're all just really put off by Touta's special template and his more typical shounen character approach and not much else to make him more interesting. Otherwise he's just being put on the same track but faster because he's being put in view of a more epic scale much earlier. He'd look more deserving if he was explicitly better trained than the 'stealth preparation training in normal life' Yukihime raised him with.

>>154364753
Look, I like UQ but you just can't deny that it wasn't entertaining , hell even comparing to Negima is a sin worth impaling.
Also this>>154364762
Touta being special chosen one is the shittiest turn off Ken ever create, Negi is so much better like in every way and he should be the main protagonist again in UQ.

>>154359147
What the fuck is Santa doing?

>>154361880
>Kirie/Santa

That was a thing? When did that happen?

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>>154364833
>comparing to Negima is a sin worth impaling
Negima is one of my favorite manga but even I'm not such a Negima cocksucker.

You seem to misunderstand my point, anyway. People like to imply Ken got worse with UQ, but he was already stumbling with the latter end of Negima. Starting with a fresh concept in UQ allowed him to get back up again for a while, but he slowly fell back into his bad writing habits.

The worst part is it happened to a cast that many people were still not attached to (which Ken is also to blame for, I don't know why he's given so little focus to UQ members), so it comes off as worse than when Negima did it. The cherry on top is Ken making the story more Negima centric, pushing the UQs aside and hurting them even more instead of trying to fix the hole he's dug. Instead of climbing out he just started digging sideways.

My point is let's not act like Ken only started getting worse with UQ.

>>154363980
I'll probably do the tankoubans and subsequent chapters tomorrow (9 March).

>>154364174
If you mean rips in general, CR rips have been regularly uploaded to the goddess.

>>154365431
if that's you danke thanks again for doing whatcha do

>>154365250
We honestly should've seen this coming after the second Mahora Festival arc at the end of Negima, yeah.

Say what you want about the MW arc, the return to Earth and most of what happened sucked dick and slipped back into early Negima flaws.

I guess the established base and the fight with the editors made people take it easy on Ken then.

>>154365431
Thing is last two chapters were met with dead threads where no one could find rips, or they just reposted LQ ones from manga reader sites.

>>154358459
>I don't know what to do so I'll just let the next gen do it instead
Isn't that the mistake that Ala Rubra made, creating the mess that Negi had to deal with?

>>154365791
>yfw it repeats
>Ken starts a third sequel manga of youngsters cleaning up UQ's mess

>>154356425
I want Negi, not generic shounen protagonist.

>>154362644
Touta already gave Negi a few good punches. If Rakan hadn't interrupted I think that Touta had a good chance at winning in a 1 on 1.

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>>154359200
Kuroumaru > *

>>154356425
Thanks

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>>154359187
Ayaka is the best

>>154359816
Is it Shaft like the Negima OVAs?

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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2017-03-08/negima-school-rumble-get-new-1-shot-manga-on-march-15/.113135

At least we are getting a new chapter of Negima next week.

>>154369513
oh shit thank you for posting this

>>154360673
>Ako kissing the boy who broke her heart
Man, I felt so bad for her when she found out the truth. I hope she found happiness because she didn't deserve that shit.

Cutlass did nothing wrong. No bully.

Was there ever a dump of chapter 133? None of the usual sources put it out that I could find.

>>154370163
it's up on sekrit club

>>154370163
It's up on kissmanga

>>154359441
Fitting for a show who's protagonist is a clone of the protag of the proceeding series

>>154362174
I fucking miss Solomon's Key. That was a good game, and it has never shown up on anything modern.

>>154369513
Wait
Is this 2 new oneshots, 1 for school rumble and 1 for Negima?
Or is it a oneshot combo of the two?

Those are probably my 2 favorite manga ever but they are so fucking different. I don't understand.

>>154370624
sounds like 1 for each

>>154370836
Uh no? it's a oneshot crossover.
Even if you don't understand japanese there's no way you couldn't know that by seeing the image.

>>154371272
it says
>revealed on Wednesday that Ken Akamatsu's Negima! Magister Negi Magi and Jin Kobayashi's School Rumble manga will both get one-shot stories in the magazine's next issue on March 15.
both and stories implies two

>>154371272
This. Creating additional stories wouldn't make sense for completed series.

Can someone translate this? >>154369513

>>154371272
Nips love to put X whenever they're promoting multiple works on one platform. The X don't necessarily always mean crossover.

>>154359686
The hell is this...?

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>>154358901
>>154358934
Kirie is olev

>>154359686

Is that fucking number 30

>>154359686
Kill Naru.

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>>154359686
fixed

>>154373134
I'd lick Eva's armpits

>>154359092
>Nostalgiafag
Nobody who picked up UQH first says that.

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>>154359529
The early chapters were really good and original. It got shitty when it began jerking off negifags.

>>154365791
What should Ala Rubra have done then, just let the Lifemaker trap Mundus Magica in Cosmo Entelecheia?

>>154360390
Um retard, he's trained for entire months/years through a bunch of faux-Room of Spirit & Time shit.

I agree that it doesn't do a good job at demonstrating time lapse (particularly because Touta is eternally in a 14 year-old body), but that doesn't mean he didn't work his ass off according to the canon

>>154373134
I'll never understand why Ken ditched Eva's 10/10 looks and personality and replaced her with "Yukihime".

>>154361815
>blushing
>submissive
>likely sitting on a strap-on
>"a good MC"

I swear you faggots are just enabling the nips.

>>154358996
I fell off after he trained with the pure vampire, and right around when they introduced that dark haired chick who was going to join the harem.

Just came back for this thread and I have no clue what's going on anymore. Did it finally embrace Negi's harem scheme or are we on the road to OTP with Kirie?

>>154374794
So self-inserts/shippers don't feel cucked.

Imagine the backlash if the sequel to Nisekoi was that loser girl falling in love again and getting knocked up.

>>154374880
But cucked for what? She's still head over heels for Negi, all he obtained why negating lots of potential of an Eva-centric story and just made her a shitty grannie side character.

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>>154374829
>people not accepting it'll be Yukihime in the end no matter what
>not remembering the prologue

It's like you all don't understand how shounen manga narratives/narratives in general work.

>>154374978
>95% of these girls got fucked by faceless old men and/or died

>>154374978
Who?

>>154374917
>Touta was her first love
>deeply cares for him
>has kissed him
>will end up with him.

Take a wild fucking guess.

>>154374978
I don't even care. It's harem trash of "who will be the real main girl". I stuck with UQ for that long because it actually stuck to combat. The writing was on the wall that it would eventualy devolve into negima harem shenanigans but man was it at least more interesting than that for a several dozen chapters.

Touta should just split himself up again, while distinguishing each of himself with condiment shirts to solve this whole harem issue

>>154375084
Harem issue can be solved with a tiered plan
>marry the foremost mortal girl
>string others along until she dies
>repeat

>>154375077
It should've been a kryptid hunting manga where he seeks out and saves various immortals around the world and brings them back to the island for asylum.

But of course Ken had to escalate shit and make it an existential power level jerk off.

>>154374563
So in what ways is UQ better? The sales and popularity speak for themselves.

>>154374723
He was still gifted Magia Erebea and Magic Cancel. Negi had crazy magic potential but even after studying for years he only had the basics down.

>>154375011
Just like UQs entire cast.

>>154375461
Kirie is pure
Mizore is like 10 years old
Shinobu is pure
Karin is pure

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>>154375040
>>Touta was her first love

>>154375639
Sometimes I miss when I was really young and had no sense of cohesive writing and spotting forced character retcons for the sake of popularity boost.

>>154375375
>The sales and popularity speak for themselves.
>autists thinking they understand the market
>autists thinking popularity on /a/ reflects the popularity among the target demographic (and main consumer) of 13-15yr old boys

>>154375639
Don't reply to bait.

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>>154375639
>>154375877
I don't think it's good writing either but it doesn't make it any less true, or you any less of someone in denial for claiming it isn't.

>>154375421
Yeah but that's because that plot hadn't been initiated yet. There was no conflict. Shounen characters only get more powerful through conflict.

>>154358445
Because the Dana arc was fucking excellent and the whiplash between it and a solid year+ of fucking harem hijinks has killed the fanbase on here since nobody wants it.

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>>154359310
>naked mass murder brocon magician with tan
If she got a cyborg body I would sit on her.

Kirie is a cute!

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Chisame wasn't the main girl. She wasn't relevant until the second quarter of Negima, either. But somehow she won. It will happen the same with Kirie.

It's the same shit, after all.

>>154376546
>chisame
>winner

>>154376093
>the Dana arc was fucking excellent
I don't know, anon. I didn't quite like how Eva was turned into a whiny little girl.

>>154376546
But Chisame was a 10/10 character. That's the difference.

>>154375846
Well then gee anon why does nobody give a shit about this series? The last chapter wasn't dumped or uploaded for a week after its release.

>>154376093
It wasn't really, if anything it started the endless Kirie focus.

>>154376972
Inferior MC, boring girls, nobody really enjoys stories that start directly at high-level tier spells and fights.
People like the underdog, seeing the little shit rise up in power, seeing the MC suffer defeat several times before beating an average level enemy by an inch.

If the story literally starts with immortals doing super duper incomprehensible shit from the get go nobody's really gonna connect with it.

>>154359127
>it's finally giving some negima closure
This is the only reason I have it bookmarked. I WILL read it one day but maybe after I'm sure Negima gets proper closure: Negi beating the Lifemaker; saving his father.
Negima was my perfect manga... proper build up, foreshadowing, and it got killed by editors. Never not mad

>>154359816
They should remake the Negima, with what Ken wanted the ending to be.

>>154377475
Hope you realize that there was no need for Negima to end like that even with the editors trouble.
Ken could have easily ended Negima on a cliffhanger and then resume with Negima 2: Darkness or something under his own conditions. It was his fault to give it a completely rushed ending and then move with UQ Holder and a whole new cast.

>>154364448
People were wrong about Magic World though. Rereading it, it's almost pure gold. School Festival might be slightly better but it's really good. It's just weekly + Hiatus (hiati?) + and trolls made it seem longer than it was.

>>154376093
Bullshit it was.

That arc fucking obliterated Evangeline's character.

>>154377545
>Ken could have easily ended Negima on a cliffhanger and then resume with Negima 2: Darkness or something under his own conditions. It was his fault to give it a completely rushed ending and then move with UQ Holder and a whole new cast.
Nah, from what I read multiple times, he couldn't do such a thing because of licensing. So Negima 2 wasn't a possibility. It had to be unique series.

But you might be right, I'm getting secondary sources as I don't read Japanese.

>>154359063

At least FT has good fanservice.

>>154358784
>>154358808
Why is Tota so lewd?

>>154364498

He's right.

MW arc started great and had some good moments but overall it was trash compared to earlier arcs.

>>154377752
Bullshit. The one with the Count is the worst. Or perhaps post-magic world arcs.

>>154377824

Count was few chapters. That was not even an arc.

MW dragged out and never delivered. And fights became boring DBZ shit.

I just want my tournament arc...

How many years it's been since it was shown there was gonna be a tournament?

The only really would-be bad thing about it is that there's no hype final boss like Rakan this time. Maybe Dana but that would perhaps be a bit too bullshit but then again Rakan was bullshit too.

>>154377209
That would be a new point if it were a brand new story but UQ is a Negima sequel no matter how you splice it. You have to rise-up the new characters to the level of the previous ones yes or yes quickly because otherwise how in hell they will compete with them considering you are juggling between the new storyline and the remnants of the old one. Even now that's by most one of the main things of UQ so far, for the new kids to git gud.

For all the complaining about Touta being a gary stu who has everything handed to him and doesn't train, where the latter is factually false, he's still a total shitter who gets shat on by everyone and their mom despite all the training he has gotten so far and his "gifts".

>>154377934
>And fights became boring DBZ shit.
Only once they were at the final battles. But yea, it got a bit overboard.


>never delivered
Seriously? Fate came back, we got answers for Chao and Nagi and loads of backstory, Asuna's backstory, Negi's mother, etc

>>154377972
>That would be a new point if it were a brand new story but UQ is a Negima sequel no matter how you splice it.

More like a spinoff really. That's how you call it when a story takes place in the same setting but with an entirely new cast. Hell even Evangeline got completely changed for this, it can't be called a sequel no matter how it's spliced.

>>154378122
>>154377972
>Splice
Why are you people using this word?

>>154378122
Perhaps it may have started that way but it is a sequel now.

>>154378166
Because she's sexy and uncanny valley

>>154359310
JUST WHAT I WAS WAITING FOR, MORE HAREM HIJINKS. BUT THIS TIME MONTHLY, EVEN BETTER

>2017
>still no good scans beyond the early volumes for Negima

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Is best girl still stuck as some shitty cyborg hag?

>>154378212
No idea where you got this. Wasn't there something like AQS or another few people who did versions of it?

Want shit quality? Look up GTO scans

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I miss her.

>>154378500
She's alive and still keeps her usual form.

A far better fate compared to 98% of the girls.

>>154378583
Too bad she's tied up to whatever the annoying blonde brat name is. What a pointless character.

>>154378634
Chachamaru is Ayaka's secretary, she has nothing to do with Mizore.

>>154377714
That's literally it's only good point and even then when you're subjected to so much of it, it becomes white noise.

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How do we fix UQ Holder, gentlemen? Can it be saved?

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>>154378745

This is better than what UQ gave us in years.

>>154379015
No

UQ should be retconned for a proper Negima ending

>>154374634
it got shitty well before that when kirie started effortlessly solving all the problems, making the rest of the team pointless

>>154379015
Sure can. Just have Touta immolate himself to drive the Lifemaker out and then resume the story with Negi becoming MC yet again with an awesome arc where he goes to meet and regroup with all his past pupils to finish the fight for good this time and give everyone proper closure.
Maybe make Touta a grave or something with that stupid "boys and girls be ambitious" line in the end.

>>154379049
If you're going to make a point try using somebody other than the worst character in the series.

>>154379131
>>154379391
Yes

>>154358901
>>154371873
>>154358934
Why is loli Chisame so perfect?

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>>154380043
Please, she's 7/10 at best compared to the real one.

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>>154380081

>>154376840
>>154377601
Stop being retards, that was a younger Eva. You're literally calling something akin to a childhood flashback "ruining her character."

>>154379131
It's literally part of Negima's ending already.like 50 years after this point in the story, Asuna will wake up, and Eva and Chao will take her back to the past creating the epilogue timeline.

>>154378064
>Asuna's back story

Fucking barely. Ken wrote her out for 100 chapters and gave us half a chapter of back story that didn't even fully explain things, nor what her relation to Arika was.

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Posting ilegal best ass.

>>154374634
Why is that nigga from Shokugeki in the manga?

>>154380443
We're talking of "Yukihime" too, idiot.

>>154380081
Until Ken confirms Chisame transferred her mind to the net and is still "alive", I'll take what I'm given.

>>154358971
>loli setsuna has the wings
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH THEM

UQ feels like Digimon 02 where the new characters are similar to the old ones but simply aren't as good.

>>154381599
Giving wings to both of them would've made for a nice touch to imply KonoSetsu having kids together, but NAAAAAH

wasted potential everywhere

>>154381599
>>154381706
It's cloning. It's pretty obvious her family has been cloning. Especially since they were involved in Touta's creation.

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Will Mana ever get a proper fight again, with her Demonfolk form? They hyped her to be Fate-level in power, but the battle was off-screen and cut short due to publishing disputes. Will there be any hope in UQ?

>>154362037
Do you remember the chapter number for this page?

>>154380783
Don't try to move the goal post. You were responding to a post specifically about the Dana arc.

>>154359179
>tfw Fate's progress has been fucking amazing but we've only gotten to see the start and end of it.

Negi opened up Fate with his punches and now Fate is at the point where even Touta is able to converse with him freely.
Truly Fate has changed.

>>154362037
Nope, sorry

>>154356425
Finally! Danke, marry me!

>>154382520
>They hyped her to be Fate-level in power
No. She says in UQH that Negi was like, 100 times stronger than her. She is not Fate level.

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>>154358971
>white white white white white

Remember when Ken used to put lots of stuff and attention to details in every panel?

>>154384234
She fought Poyo to a standstill in Demonfolk form, which Negi said was around Fate's level of power. She's probably not as strong as current Fate in Demonfolk form anymore, but she still had a lot of hype to her. Not to mention Fate and Kitty aren't nearly as strong as Negi anymore, too.

>>154384330
White is more shounen. All the shounen battle manga do it. Children no like dark colour.

>>154384330
It's called having more assistants to do that.

>>154371873
That she is, totally should just win Touta's love and get it over with.

>>154384488
Yeah, I guess that gets at the heart of the matter

>>154383030
Which made Eva become a little lesser vampire bitch compare do the "true race". Fucking obliterated her character from Negima when she was supposedly this top end vampire.

>>154385238
What is character progression? And, if you used your head a little, you could conclude, that her playing the big almighty vampire, is exactly because of Dana.

>>154385440
Which is even more character destroying.

>>154385519
That is generally what prequels/flashbacks do. There would be no point in a character that has not developed one bit since the birth of the Universe.

>>154385602
Prequels/flashback give some insight on a character's past, they don't shit all over the iconic elements and strong traits that define it by retconning everything into nothing.

>>154385681
Nothing was retconned. Rather we got Eva's motivations and origins explained. She would not have become that haughty and sadistic, if not for Danas influence and being shamed by her. How are you dumb enough to not understand the simple concept of causality?

>>154385834
Which destroyed the basis of her character.
It's like being given Solid Snake backstory and discover that originally he was a G.I Joe cosplayer who got bullied a little bit too much by his friends and went psycho delusional.

>>154385906
So, basically, what you are saying is "I don't like deep characters"?

>>154385906
To be honest, it's hard to believe Eva would start that she was in Negima. Every time we saw her backstory in the original series, we knew that she didn't start on the top, so her having a teacher makes sense.

>>154385681
You just sound asspained Ken introduced someone stronger than Eva, even though we already knew from Negima Eva was turned and not born a vampire. Of course pure blooded vampires would be more powerful than her.

Eva's strength came from 600 years of experience and training. The Eva in the Dana arc started out at fucking 16 years old. Of course she was different and wasn't making a show of her strength. It did not retcon her power, it only retconned her relationship with Touta.

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Dana training Fate and Eva arc when?

>>154386069
What would be the point? Giving Fate more power to save the universe can only end poorly since he still wants to Cosmos Entelechia the world if shit gets too real.

>>154386121
>What would be the point?
So Fate and Kitty won't get their ass pounded in .03 seconds?

>>154385971
>deep
>everything that made her special turns out to be shit instead
kek

>>154386159
It makes sense that they would lose like that but that was an obvious move to remove them from the fight. Eva is still nerfed too.

>>154386159
Fate and Eva just need to work together. You can't have two Dark-type characters when we've already proved that Light types and the middle ground types like Negi are already superior.

>>154386268
> Eva is still nerfed too.
Eva is still on 70 year old Fate's tier, who is still massively powerful, it's not a huge nerf. And she's only nerfed because she became rusty over the years, so getting them both training makes sense. Fate is obviously going to aid Touta and Kitty in the final battle with Negi, might as well not make them completely useless this time around.

>>154386232
I think you need to acquire some better taste and a brain transplant.

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>>154385989
But it actually doesn't. What we knew from Negima was that she lived a life of constant strife being hunted and fighting for her life against armies. That's how she acquired power, knowledge and in turn confidence until she became so powerful as to shit on gods with a single spell laughing like the awesome loli vampire she is.

Then UQH holder came and it turns out she's nothing special, got shat on constantly by better vampires both in the past and current present and pretty much all her confidence is faking out being like Dana.
It destroyed her character as a whole, no longer people feel this huge detachment with "Yukihime".

>>154386324
I don't know what Fate and Kitty could of even done, when working together. Negi just slaughtered them in less than half of a second. The only reason Touta wasn't KO'd with them is because his Magia Ereba absorbed Negi's lightning.
They'll need some sort of powerup to do something to Negi.

>>154379015
Remove Eva.

>>154386333
>Evangeline needing training

This feels so wrong it's unbelievable it got a pass

>>154386366
And she still did that, it's not like Dana suddenly gave her everything or invalidated the years she spent being hunted (it was basically the climax for the flashback arc on her you know). Hell, her having a master helps put how she taught Negi into perspective too.

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>>154386333
>And she's only nerfed because she became rusty over the years
No. We don't know why she is weaker but it's not due to rustiness. It's because she is nerfed that he has a chance of beating her.

>>154386373
Bruh, power of Friendship is a proven thing in Negima.
Nagi was incredible but as Eva points out, a lot of his hilariousness also came from his allies.
You get Fate and Eva to actually work together and you could easily use moves to redirect lightning.
At the very least, even if you can't dodge it and you somehow can't set up a way to null it, Eva should be able to absorb it. She herself has Magia Erebea.

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>>154386456
>Even Eva's teaching to Negi is no longer her own, just passing on what "Master Dana" did first

>>154386366
>got shat on constantly by better vampires both in the past and current present
What? She is special, a legendary and powerful mage.

>>154386540
And a completely nothing compared to the "true vampires" now.

>>154386467
>No. We don't know why she is weaker but it's not due to rustiness.
There's no explenation actually given, but considering she settled down for a while after Negi left, it's fair to assume she's gotten rusty, while Fate has done nothing but get more powerful over the years.
> It's because she is nerfed that he has a chance of beating her.
Of course Fate has a better chance of beating her after improving for 50+ years, while she was managing UQ and taking care of Touta.
Still doesn't change that Negi would of slaughtered her even if she wasn't weaker, considering he was able to hold his own against her at 11 years old.

>>154386600
She's been sitting down for decades at Mahora and that didn't touch her powers, why would a few years now suddenly be different?

>>154386629
Her powers were locked away, she wasn't lounging away because she wanted to. She's been doing nothing for at least 10+ years, while Fate has been improving since the end of Negima. It's not unreasonable to think that Fate has nearly caught up to her, after training while she's done nothing. Hell, Fate was able to fight with Nagi and match him in strength when he first born.

>>154386586
Yeah, you're just asspained Ken introduced people stronger than her.

>>154387403
When you fuck over your own established lore and character defining traits? Of course, that's what bad writing is.

Remember when Eva one shotted a massive demon and then all of CE? Do you think Yukihime could do that?

>>154387706
Yes, her magic is still ridiculously powerful, and the demon couldn't do shit against her ice, which she still uses. Although, she probably can't one shot CE, if we're including Fate, who caught up to her pretty fast.

>>154387763
It was a rethorical question to imply that she's no longer the awesome character she used to be.

>>154387965
I genuinely don't see much of an issue with people being stronger than her now, especially since it's only a handful of characters
>Negi
>Dana
>Fate
>Imma
and that's literally it so far. It shouldn't be surprising to you that Negi surpassed her considering how fast he was able to grow, and it isn't really a stretch to say Fate got to her level, too. She somehow isn't as 'awesome' because 2 characters caught up to her?

>>154388132
It's not people being stronger, is her main treat of being "the biggest, baddest ubervamp there is" being retconned into "fun little shit" status now.

>>154388132
I'm not as against it as the other guy but dana implies a whole class of vampires stronger than her as well

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>>154390849
We have no idea what happened to Eva, but yes, she was nerfed, we just don't know the mechanism.

She was nerfed in Negima too, but there we knew about the curse that was nerfing her.

>>154391034
>>154390849
Did not mean to respond to that post, sorry anon.

also if you think about what eva was capable of, a whole group of vampires capable of way more than her really should have had nothing to stop them from taking over, especially in the past when humanity was less prepared

>>154391055
np

>>154391388
>a whole group of vampires capable of way more than her really should have had nothing to stop them from taking over, especially in the past when humanity was less prepared
This was already explained. Some elite vampires are older than humanity themselves, and it's extremely looked down upon in their society to tamper with humans. Vampires have no want or need to take over humanity. This was explained during Dana's first appearance.

>>154391456
Boooooooooooring

>>154391456
ah I forgot about that my bad, I'll have to go reread that but was it explained why? in most fiction it's because humanity could wipe the vampires out if they really put their minds to it so the vampires don't want to rile them up, but here there's like no chance of that

>>154391695
There's no real reason, besides they only like to meddle with their own affairs. The only pure breed who interacts with humanity is Dana, and her interaction is very minimal. All we know about pure-breeds from Fate rambling on about Dana.

>>154375846
>target demographic (and main consumer) of 13-15yr old boys
It's not making that huge a splash among those people in Japan either though.

>>154374634
>The early chapters were really good and original
No they weren't if you've read quite a fair number of action shounen. It's not terrible, but it's more average to above average.

>>154391456
That's still stupid as fuck when literally everything about Evangeline in Negima portrayed her as the biggest and baddest person on the block. The only people who were comparable or stronger than her were Rakan, Nagi, and The Lifemaker, who's essentially god.

Having an entire CLASS of people be so hilariously far above her as to treat her like a child is poor writing. There was nothing so much as hinting that people like Eva, Nagi, and Rakan were anything but some of the strongest fighters to ever come around. For 355 chapters.

Is it even physically possible to have a thread primarily discussing the current chapter and not going back to the circle jerk of arguing over the same points? These threads all feel largely the same after the first couple dozen posts following the chapter dump.

>>154392405
No.

>>154391929
>That's still stupid as fuck when literally everything about Evangeline in Negima portrayed her as the biggest and baddest person on the block.
Yes, but that was 70 years ago, before a lot of the lower tier characters got more powerful
>The only people who were comparable or stronger than her were Rakan, Nagi, and The Lifemaker, who's essentially god.
Rakan can't beat Kitty, and that was confirmed by Ken - he couldn't even beat Fate or Negi by the end of the manga. Nagi could at one point, but definitely not by the end of Negima, where Negi was able to beat him solo. And the Lifemaker's power level depends on her host.
Now the only ones ahead of her are Negi who beat Nagi w/the Lifemaker, Fate who trained 70 years straight, Imma who was always her equal, and Dana, who is her superior.

>Having an entire CLASS of people be so hilariously far above her as to treat her like a child is poor writing.
There's only one person in that high class who actually interacts with the human world, and it's rare she does at that. The vampires are essentially living corpses with no drive.

> There was nothing so much as hinting that people like Eva, Nagi, and Rakan were anything but some of the strongest fighters to ever come around. For 355 chapters.
There was no need to mention high vampires since they don't deal with humans, so it doesn't really contradict.
You just don't like that Kitty is no longer the top dog in Negima/UQ, anymore.

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There's not much to discuss with the current chapter, besides speculating at the moment, and hyping up brown imouto