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Explain why he wasn't the best protagonist of 2016.

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Explain why he wasn't the best protagonist of 2016.
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>>154331925
funny how he got bigger eye bags after he realized how useless he is and dying won´t save him from his fate.

Still I liked the story and would like to know what happens next and if he is pride
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>>154331925
Because Konosuba was in 2016 and Toyota doesn't become good until arc 4
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>>154332014
Came here to say just this.
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>>154331925
Is RE:Zero worth watching.
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Literally who?
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>>154332064
Yes
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>>154331925
Because he's literally the same in both the first and the last episode.
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>>154331925
Nice bait.
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>>154331925
Luluco exists
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I want a bf like subaru. I cried in the last ep when he confessed to Emelia :c
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>>154332231
Good job spreading God's words, anon.
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>>154331925
Because Kazuma
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>>154331925
Because pic related exists.
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>>154331991
He is much worse than pride.
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>>154332064
No. This is coming from a fan of the series as well, unless you want a butchered adaptation.
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>>154331925
He didn't choose best girl so he's shit
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>>154332064
Yes, just fucking watch it already.
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>>154331925
Kill yourself, son of a bitch.
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>>154332470
This looks kinda fanfic. I just spent time in the wiki and learned that subaru can controll the powers of defeated arch bishops but that´s it. Just saw the anime there are still some things that bother me

1. Why did emilia first introduce herself to him as the witch?
2. Why is subaru the only one with the power of returning back? Why did the witch gave him this power
3. Wasn´t the big whale also an archbishop kinda thing? Didn´t someone said that?
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>>154332610
>Rem
>Not best girl

Stay forever mad
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>>154332064
It's anime Suicide Squad. Fucking terrible trainwreck but people like it anyways.
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this is why
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>>154332646
It is a fanfic, the reality is possibly much worse, considering he's been teetering on Dark Lord territory for some time now.

>1. Why did emilia first introduce herself to him as the witch?

To scare him away, she though of him as nothing but a bother during the first loops. Plus foreshadowing.

>2. Why is subaru the only one with the power of returning back? Why did the witch gave him this power

Well for one, he isn't the only person who can respawn, Al can as well during arc 3, which was cut from the anime, Satella that slut. While mostly speculation why Satella gave him RbD it ranged from being Subaru is part Fugel to time travel shit.

>3. Wasn´t the big whale also an archbishop kinda thing? Didn´t someone said that?


The White Whale's original owner and creator was Daphene, Witch of Gluttony. Which has recently been under control and become someones pet which was Ley the archbishop who was responsible to Rem's "death" and Crusch's amnesia and her arm getting severed along with Regulus the Archbishop of Greed.


>>154332610
I didn't know Rem wasn't best girl.
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>>154332646
That one is a comic but Subaru being an apostle for two Witches isn't any good either. Nor is the fact that he has Archbishops being his shoulder angels now.
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>>154332802
>Rem's "death" and Crusch's amnesia and her arm getting severed

Why didn't Subaru just reset?
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>>154333092
He did, oh by god he did. But Satella is a bitch.
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>>154331925
He's uggo
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>>154333092
The first thing that he did upon seeing an unconscious and possibly mindwiped Rem was instantly slit his own throat.
And from what I heard he killed himself more then a few times after that trying to reset time.
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>>154333147
Nah, he stopped after the initial suicide after realizing that it was already too late. Though this was not before he tried to stab himself again mind you.

The later suicides were because people were trying to fuck around with Rem's souless body.
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Rezero is shit. This is now an Umaru thread.
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>>154331925
Commit subaru pls
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>>154333346
>OPs shitposting thread gets derailed
>This is now an Umaru thread

Nice recovery OP.
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>>154331925
It was good to finally see someone /a/ could identify with.
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>>154333690
>he didn't watch NHK and Watamote
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>>154332802
Soon
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>>154331925
Because he was fucking cringeworthy to watch. I had to take a break after pic related because it was just too autistic
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Because Rakugo aired in 2016.
Kiku >>> everyone.
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>>154332231
>Cockhungry middle schooler
>best
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>>154331925
Kumiko
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>>154333813
Kill yourself. Even shitbaru is better than that ugly bitch.
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>>154331925
Because he exists.
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>>154332802
May I ask where you are getting all this information from?
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>>154333847
http://pastebin.com/u3VJggF6

Have fun
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>>154332646
>>154332802

It is a fanfic, the reality is possibly much worse, considering he's been teetering on Dark Lord territory for some time now.

>1. Why did emilia first introduce herself to him as the witch?

To scare him away, she though of him as nothing but a bother during the first loops. Plus foreshadowing.

>2. Why is subaru the only one with the power of returning back? Why did the witch gave him this power

Well for one, he isn't the only person who can respawn, Al can as well during arc 3, which was cut from the anime, Satella that slut. While mostly speculation why Satella gave him RbD it ranged from being Subaru is part Fugel to time travel shit.

>3. Wasn´t the big whale also an archbishop kinda thing? Didn´t someone said that?


The White Whale's original owner and creator was Daphene, Witch of Gluttony. Which has recently been under control and become someones pet which was Ley the archbishop who was responsible to Rem's "death" and Crusch's amnesia and her arm getting severed along with Regulus the Archbishop of Greed.
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>>154334090
Why did you copy/paste my post and quote me?
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>>154334199
It is a fanfic, the reality is possibly much worse, considering he's been teetering on Dark Lord territory for some time now.

>1. Why did emilia first introduce herself to him as the witch?

To scare him away, she though of him as nothing but a bother during the first loops. Plus foreshadowing.

>2. Why is subaru the only one with the power of returning back? Why did the witch gave him this power

Well for one, he isn't the only person who can respawn, Al can as well during arc 3, which was cut from the anime, Satella that slut. While mostly speculation why Satella gave him RbD it ranged from being Subaru is part Fugel to time travel shit.

>3. Wasn´t the big whale also an archbishop kinda thing? Didn´t someone said that?


The White Whale's original owner and creator was Daphene, Witch of Gluttony. Which has recently been under control and become someones pet which was Ley the archbishop who was responsible to Rem's "death" and Crusch's amnesia and her arm getting severed along with Regulus the Archbishop of Greed.
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>>154334242
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Because this man was best protagonist
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>>154331925
No. Just started watching it (I know I'm late) but somehow he makes Kazuma from Konosuba look like a genius.
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>>154334465
This. Konosuba was a way better series than Re:Zero was so it makes you wonder why people even like this shit.
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>>154332064
episodes 1 to 3 are very good, 4 to 11 is boring but it's important for character development, from 12 to 25 it gets good again

all around pretty good series
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>>154334542
>Arc 3 of the anime
>Good

Its was more butchered than arc 2.
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>>154334443
Isn't this Lupin from 2015?
But yea, I don't mind seeing more from him.
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>>154331925
He had all the reasons to be.
It's just that the 3rd arc was such a shitshow and got solved in the stupidest way possible while not having Mitsubishi evolve or learn anything new. He just crashes down to the bottom because of being an absolute idiot who thinks he's some sort of VN protag out to win the girl by picking all the "right" options, and when there could have been some interesting deconstruction of his waifufaggotry and the general attitude of wanting to be "the hero", he instead just gets some pats on the back and an offer of pussy from his maid to get his ego back up.
The other 3 arcs are all great but that one is just so fucking bad it brings the main character down as a whole.
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>>154333910
The moment when the man lost a wife but got daughterus instead.

Then he loses his daughters as well
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>>154334973
>He just crashes down to the bottom because of being an absolute idiot who thinks he's some sort of VN protag out to win the girl by picking all the "right" options, and when there could have been some interesting deconstruction of his waifufaggotry and the general attitude of wanting to be "the hero".

This is actually what Subaru's psychology actually was, props.

> he instead just gets some pats on the back and an offer of pussy from his maid to get his ego back up

Well that's because Whitefox didn't include the ending of arc 3, they settled for a "happy ending" because they were too pussy to go for the actual ending of arc 3.
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>>154334990
I trust Tappei will make them happy. Its not like he killed those kids in-front of Subaru's eyes multiple times before, oh wait.
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>>154334509
Because Subaru (and most of the cast) has actual development unlike Kazuma and Re:Zero's entirely story isn't just one giant disconnected gag. I enjoy Konosuba be there isn't all that much to it that makes rise beyond just an entertaining comedy.
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>>154332695
so basically like Code Geass? Picked the fuck up.
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>>154335054
Basically it's a classic Zero to Hero story with it's own twist.
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>>154334990
>Subaru: “Pe, tra?”
>Subaru discovers Petra on the opposite end of the room—nearby the sculpture. She lies on her side face-down and collapsed. Apparently, he had dropped her in the commotion.
>Yet worrying about Frederica, Subaru must follow her words and ensure Petra remains protected.
>He taxes his trembling legs to stand. His feet lead him to the fallen Petra's side. And, he goes to pick her up—
>—When there, buried from her head's rear to her nape, he spots the crooked knife. Blood trickles from her mouth, brain lies spilt from her fractured skull. Fresh bloodshed seeps heavy into her soft chestnut hair. Her gentle, warm hands no longer move.
>Subaru lifts his right arm. He sees a pathetic bundle of flesh missing three fingers and half a forearm. The kukri he had attempted to halt had torn straight through to strike Petra. Now presented with this, Subaru thus had protected not a single thing.
>Subaru: “—aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!”
>Bloody does his ruined throat shriek.


Soon.
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>>154331925
Because he wasn't in YoI.
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>>154335045
What are the odds all 3 are going to meet the same or similar fate as Rem?

Though I'd be kinda redundant to fuck Subaru over with the checkpoint system again.
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>>154334990
Rem is not completely dead yet so don't write her off so soon, she just got erased from existence is all. Even then Subaru has been doing some crazy things to try and bring her back so.
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>>154331925
Because there were better protagonists?
He WILL be one of the best if Re:Zero anime continues, but as it was, he was just good, not exceptional.
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>>154335253
Yeah, until you find out that she pulls a Theresia and Subaru breaks completely.
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>>154335272
Oh no, that's what I'm expecting. Zero to Hero to straight up villain.

I mean, he's already halfway there. With people comparing him to Roswaal, pointing out his face and eyes as well as people pointing out how un-protagonist he is. Her going Theresia will be the prefect hub to break his already fucked up psyche.
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>>154335272
What? Explain
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>>154335406
Have you've ever been forced to kill your own wife anon?
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>>154335532
No. But I don't completely have a grasp on Theresa's whole jigamajig in Arc 5, hence why my confusion.
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>>154335272

>[Subaru: Rem, you really love this. As of now, I’m not so absorbed in Liliana’s song that it overwhelms me, but if I listen to it until the end, then my thoughts might change.]
>[Rem: Yes, they sure will. The sword demon’s way of life is the ideal way for many men and women, even today. Subaru-kun, please come and see me someday just like in the sword demon love song.]
>[Subaru: If the spoilers I heard were true, then wouldn’t that mean Rem and I would kill each other in the end?]


Well I can't deny the foreshadowing is there.
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>>154335595
Well Rem might come back from the dead not okay so to speak
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>>154335634
But did Theresia get straight-out ressurrected, or did her memories and name get wiped by Gluttony, and then when she got back she was an underling to the cult?
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>>154335687
Well if your name and memories get wiped you'd basically not be able to do anything, Theresia is sort of a special case being that her memories came back to her as she was dying and Pandora had a hand in bringing her back.

Rem might be the same considering that Subaru is in a dark tower full of Witch fuckery trying to bring her back right now as well.
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This was the best protag of 2016, too bad he lost.
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>>154331925
>Explain why he wasn't the best protagonist of 2016.

he didn't go for best girl Rem.
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>>154334990
>[Rem: I’m sure it won’t always be fun times. Not everything will go as well as I imagine it. We might have no boys and they might all be daughters instead. Subaru-kun might feel ashamed about his family.]

Coincidence?
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>>154335875
>he didn't go for best girl Rem

Boy, do I have news for you
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>>154335825
I think the situation is too different between the two. But the foreshadowing is there indeed. I could see him losing it temporarily, only to get Zero Kara's or something by Emilia or Beatrice.

>>154335875
But he did, you just weren't shown that because lolWhiteFox.
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>>154335687
>>154335825
Theresia wasn't erased by Gluttony. It's implied that she was killed by a certain Witch. In Arc 5 she just corpse brought back from the dead with little remains as her memories.

It's not comparable to Rem's situation at all either.
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>>154332261
I cried there and during Rem's confession, because he took responsibility for her feelings like a true man, no pity-reciprocation or anything. It was beautiful.
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>>154335903
Nah if Subaru were to completely lose Rem he's completely break. While Beako and the rest of his little girls will hold him at bay for a bit the entire reason he hasn't gone villain yet is Rem. With him being all "to stay Rem's hero" and whatnot. As so losing her would cause him to no longer have the drive to be heroic or virtuous anymore, not like he was very virtuous or heroic already.
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>>154335970
Until you find out his fucked up psychology as to why he said "I love Emilia" to Rem. To become "the man that Rem loves".
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>>154335978
He could not lose it even if she does or goes cray cray, in respect for her love. And decides not to go full dark Lord in order to become the hero Rem wanted him to be.
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>>154336047
With Subaru's hair trigger temper already? I don't think so. The man literally strangles people for shittalking Rem so him overcoming that pit is a big stretch.
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>>154335978
Eh, let's not exaggerate too much. If he loose Rem it will definitely leave scare and be wound that take along to him to recover, but he's not a being hero for sake of it here. Emilia is still other reason for doing all this. Each Arc he becomes more mentally stronger.
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>>154336080
A good setup to get lectured by Emilia, who also lost most of her motivation in Arc 4 when she found out Fortuna was dead, and most of the villagers she wanted to save were as good as dead as well because of the Black Snake. Subaru losing Rem would be very similar to that, in my opinion.
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>>154336189
* a long time to recover
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>>154336191
Actually for anyone other than Fortuna, Geuse and those killed by the Black Snake it's unknown if those frozen by her are dead. So it's not completely hopeless for her there. Beyond Arc 4 also strengthen another reason for to seek the throne aside for personal interest.
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>>154336189
Emilia is also the person who brings the worst out of Subaru so that's a coin toss, plus Emilia isn't really the support for Subaru but rather Subaru is the support for Emilia. This also goes to him being mentally stronger is also as well thanks to Rem, he even accredited it to her going "I'm being strong her sake" in chapter 31. Who what were to happen if the source of his mental fortitude is completely gone and severed? We've seen a bit of that terrifying vision already in the aftermath of world ending after he made Beatrice cry by attacking and verbally abusing her.
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>>154331925
For one, he was worse than literally every other protagonist of 2016.
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>>154336191
Emilia lecturing Subaru is as effective as Subaru keeping his promises to Emilia. You also need to keep continuity in mind, as everything Emilia has done has fallen to deaf ears, not to mention she as of yet still cannot bring herself to criticize Subaru even after six arcs.
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>>154331925
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>>154336295
>>154336343
Wouldn't it just solidify their relationship status? Emilia actually doing something for him instead of being just him bending backwards for her at every turn? Would also serve as character development for her
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>>154336191
Fortuna isn't dead though, Emilia still firmly believes that if she were to unfreeze her village she can have everything back.

If anything it might cause a even bigger rift than the one existing already between the knight and the queen if we are to assume that Sirius is actually Fortuna.
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>>154336394
What similarities are there between Sirius and Fortuna? Just the silver hair and bandaged face, no? Is Sirius even an elf?
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>>154332342
came here to post this
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>>154336453
Long life due to her race, amethyst eyes, hair and her connection to Betelgeuse.
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>>154336385
Not really no, if she couldn't do it in arc 3 or any other arcs what makes you think that it would be possible later on? Plus her character development doesn't seem to be heading that way.
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>>154336394
Even worse considering Subaru already killed her father-figure Bete
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>>154336385
You need to keep in mind that everything Emilia says to Subaru usually fall on deaf ears, nor is Emilia able to criticize him despite how far we are in the series. Emilia can asspull something despite how her character currently is but its up to Subaru who needs to actually open up in order to Zero Kara him in any way. Its more realistic for Beatrice to do such a thing than Emilia as Subaru at least entrusts his life to Beatrice but not Emilia. As Subaru gives her his "determined side" which is to be the rock solid foundation that shows no weaknesses and doesn't need to rely on anything. Its also the side where he acts kinds like a dick.
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>>154332261
>>154335970
>ywn have best girl subaru
why live?
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>>154336013
What.
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He's so ugly.
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i really liked the show, but can someone explain to me the whole dog demon arc?
>he gets infected
>rem goes with him to kill the source
>he retreats, rem stays fighting
>he comes back for her
>they all try to reteat again
the hell? why would rem put her life/sanity on the line for him so early on? her staying was kind of pointless since they retreated again
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>>154334639
Yeah but it continued to 2016 so i count it
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Are you reading manga or novel? I watched the anime and got interested in the story.
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>>154336906
ctrl+f "pastebin".
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>>154336936
ty anon
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>>154336759
It basically boils down to I'd be a repeat of what happened to Ram.
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>>154336759
Other than payment and re-payment, its in her character to atone for her sins. She nearly killed an innocent man so I'd be natural for her to burden all of those troubles by herself and repent.
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>>154331925
Because he isn't COOL
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>>154333829
Reigen definitely isn't the protagonist of MP100.
Still an amazing character though.
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>>154336679
>Nobody made expectations for Subaru. She is the only person who didn’t abandon him and didn’t accept the Subaru who abandoned even himself.
>This is the “curse” that Subaru cast on her.

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>[Rem: You woke up with a smile, told me the words I wanted to hear the most when I wanted to hear them the most, from the person I wanted to hear them from the most.]
>The frequency of the “curse” that Subaru cast on her is spoken from her mouth.
>That “curse” profoundly and gently restrained her heart with the chains called faith, and she was tied by them like this now as well.

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>Because he only continued to show his unattractive side…
>Because Subaru himself cast an everlasting “curse” on her…
>He had an obligation to fulfill that duty.

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>He raises his face, looks forward, and then looks into Rem’s eyes. She calmly and kindly waits for Subaru to let out his answer.
>Because Subaru wanted to be the Natsuki Subaru that she loves…
>[Subaru: ??I love Emilia.]
>[Rem: ??Yes.]
>Rem responds to Subaru’s confession by nodding with a smile that made it seem as if she knew everything.
>And while knowing how cruel he was being to her smile and her kindness

Which is further emphasized

>Did he really have enough merit to him for a girl as well-done as Rem to love him so much?
>Even now he had to wonder it. That said, he was simultaneously thinking that he'd have to become a man who matched up to that merit.
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>>154336189
Anon he'd never recover, if meeting Ley would cause scars that will never heal according to Beatrice.


>[Batenkaitos: The first maid of Roswaal L Mathers’ mansion, wait wait wait. That’s not it.]
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>[Batenkaitos: I am simply a lone, beloved person. The companion of my love, Natsuki Subaru, who will one day be renowned as a hero, Rem…was it?]
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>Gluttony’s tone and smile were all entirely making fun of that lone girl’s feelings.
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>[———]
>[Beatrice: This person…this is the one person that we must not let Subaru meet, I suppose. If Subaru meets this person, then he will be hurt. He would definitely suffer a type of damage that would not be able to be repaired. Thus-]


What makes you think he would recover from having to live with the fact that Rem is dead and there is nothing that could bring her back? Let alone her being killed by his own hands.
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Whether you like Re:Zero or not, I think we can all agree it had the best OST of 2016.

Name a track that beats this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xcmfe2lfeI
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>>154331925
anon people that dislike natuski honda generally are just RE zero haters
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>>154338084
You mean this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkAuDJh0NsA
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>>154338417
fuck off
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>>154333690
>>154333722
Reddit: Zerofag BTFO
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>>154332064
Yes it's the modern Eva
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>>154331925
Like Miyazaki said, he's a main character that panders to otaku individuals. A main character that has no lot in life but his anime toys and merchandise. He might even be a NEET.
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>>154339247
Can I send in the shock troopers to kill you?
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>>154332664
I'm sure that's what he was
>implying
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>>154331925
because he's just like Shinji, except without any of the interesting character traits or reasoning
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>>154337591
Because humans normally move on form those things especially ones that are surrounded by loved ones. Tappei isn't gonna devoled him due to loss.
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>>154331925
Because Mob existed.
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>>154336013
Subaru is far stronger man than breaking for losing a waifu "he have another anyway " so nope

throw everything you did for emilia and everyone you saved just because you can't tap the oni ass anymore

bruh ......
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>>154335978
Subaru is far stronger man than breaking for losing a waifu "he have another anyway " so nope

throw everything you did for emilia and everyone you saved just because you can't tap the oni ass anymore

bruh ......
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>>154338627
Except Subaru was a more realistic character compared to both of them combined. They were bland forceful messages for the sake of being messages. The execution was terrible and every real neet knows about it. Only extreme normalfags would think otherwise.

Ree:Zero on the other hand is a pinnacle of writing and only reddit rejects such as yourself fail to realise this very simple truth.

Re:Zero will be remembered even in 20 as a timeless masterpiece. When people on /a/ speak of classics and somebody fails to recognise Re:Zero, fellow anons will definitely remind that person to lurk at least 2 more years.

Truly what a miracle of a series Re:Zero turned out to be.
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>>154331925
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>>154341083
We'll see. He let every character devolve I don't see it any different from Subaru.
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>>154342944
Subaru quite literally did that in the end of arc 3 so yes there is a chance of him doing it again.
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>>154341083
You can only break a man so much before he snaps. Plus what Tappei says about Subaru in a world without Rem spells something not good for his character. Essesially devolving him anyways.
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I'm still waiting for him to become the knight of Satella, thus cementing his place as the Dark Lord. We need at least one bad loop where he absolutely destroys everything in a fit of hatred and rage.
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>>154342944
He isnt losing "a waifu" he is essensially losing his other half, and arguably his soulmate if the people who looked into Subaru's soul calling Rem "girl in your heart" or " your heart's girl" having any value.
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Why are you fucks still all trolling in here, there's a new chapter out and its super spicy

Ram is ten times the cuck her sister ever was
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>>154331925
Because Bananya exists
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>>154331925
Not enough swords.
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>>154336343
Oh please. He's only broken 2 promises to and one of them out of necessarity which understood forgive him for when she found out the reason. Emilia doesn't care to citizens him unless sje feeks warranted. Subaru has done anything big since they're spat in Arc that needed it. So this just sound like flimsy excuses that don't hold up in the narrative.

>>154336385
Emilia has already her share for him, that's one of things that attracted him to her begin with.
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>>154342944
Now this one, I can say to be factually wrong.
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>>154348401
Nothing that Subaru has done to Emilia has been met with criticizm she even praises him for it. With Emilia saying that the spat in arc 3 wasnt his fault. As well as Subaru being largely the same and even becoming worse with Emilia's influence considering how he was like after the arguement and thier make up in arc 3 with Otto and Rem having to pick up the peices to notice how bad he fucked up.
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>>154336013
I mean, if I'm reading right, I basically thought the same thing without reading the novel at that point.
I was very impressed that he wanted to live up to and surpass the person that she fell in love with.
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>>154343970
my man.
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