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What's your opinions on officially translated manga? Localized anime has a bad rep around here for a lot of reasons, but for those of us who can't read moon official releases can offer better translations and higher quality images if you are willing to fork over the money, especially when you're looking at older series. Do you have certain publishers that you like/trust more than others? Or do you buy only Japanese tanks or nothing?
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>>154331207
Seven Seas a best tho

/a/ won't reply because they're tsundere as fuck for these kind of manga, they secretly buy it.
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>>154331207
Seven Seas and Vertical are good. Fuck YP
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>>154331207
>official releases can offer better translations
Not if they're Viz. Yen Press is a hit or miss; when they fuck up, they fuck up very badly.
Any publisher that goes heavy on localization should be doused with gasoline and burnt on a pyre.
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Well, I live in France so of fucking course things are a bit different here, but I like having my books translated, especially if the translation is good.

In the recent yers, there was a wave of new editions for some manga that had shitty translation and I have to say that's a blessing.

Most translations here are godly, and a fuckton of works is translated so I consider myself lucky.

Of course we have some shit ones, but it depends more on the translator than the editor.
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Fucking Mirai Nikki will never be finished. That'll teach me to buy anything.
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>>154331207
It'd be fine and dandy if localizers could finish a fucking series. RIP Kekkai Sensen.
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>>154331749
>Most translations here are godly, and a fuckton of works is translated
I always hear that frogs do a decent job with their dubbing and translating, is there a reason why?
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>>154331207
Well I get plenty of stuff in my own language and it has worked out fine for the most part.
Except with Vagabond, they stopped doing that at volume 9 because shitbags weren't buying it. I guess I should get it in English. Those big volumes okay?
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>>154331816
Well we have a long story of comics here so that might help, people might be more used to it.
Also looks like we're the second country in terms of manga industry, after Japan of course, so that may be a push for quality since lots and lots of stuff is translated.

However on dubbing (talking about anime, otherwise, movies and games are often good or great) it's often shitty, I think that's because cartoons are looked down upon because
>cartoons for children; they're too dumb to care about quality anyway
The problem also happens for american cartoons when they're localized here, but seems less important, I guess that's because anime is seen as more niche.
We still have some good dubs though, I remember that I prefered french dub of Air Gear anime than the sub. Also that shit aired in midday uncensored what the hell

However we still have some gems, like Wakfu, or the Dofus animated movie, which are just wow, but they're french productions so of course the producer would care.
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>>154331816
Because we are used to.
Any and all cultural product that is to be published in France must have a french translation of some sort, meaning we've had all our movies and TV translated, etc.
Another big element that came into play is that comic books have always been quite popular since WW2 and that resulted in a certain quality standard among french and belgian publishers ; when manga and anime started to surface in the 80s, said standard was quickly applied in order not to create a divide within the readership (it didn't really work) and most importantly in order to capitalize on what was (rightfuly) seen as a market with huge potential growth when our more traditionnal comic books were losing traction due to the concurrence of TV.
That doesn't mean we don't have our stinkers here and there, as well as many failed collections, series stopped mid-run due to poor sales, etc.

But yeah overall we're well-served. The translations are alright (although there is often some cringeworthy stuff when it comes to swearing since the editors will be cautious not to use "shit" for a series meant for teenagers because reasons), the printing is usually okay depending on the editor, and we get some fairly unknown stuff translated at a loss because apparently some people in there have ethics.
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If I buy a localized manga does any of that money get back to the manga-ka?
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>>154332096
Depends on the editor, some have contract where the author gets paid once, some have contract where the author is payed by the sold (actually printed) volume.
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>>154332096
Depends on the terms of the contracts between the local publisher and the japanese publisher.
In some cases, specific contracts are signer to translate and publish one author in particular in which case yes he/she does get things from it (usually the author got an initial contractual sum, and starts to recieve royalties once a certain amount of books sold is reached)
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>>154331656
>>154331687
Shame neither seem to publish much I'd want to put on my shelf. Maybe Blame and Franken Fran.

Any thoughts on Dark Horse?
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>>154332377
Berserk needs to be collected in bigger volumes.
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Vertical, Fantagraphics, and Drawn & Quarterly are the best
Kodansha and Seven Seas are hit and miss (fucking translations or releases sometimes)
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>>154332431
Having large hardbound deluxe editions of berserk with 3 volumes in one would be great. Something like what viz did with uzumaki.
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>>154332431
>bigger volumes for something with very detailed art
Be careful what you wish for
>t. fell for the bigger volume meme with Planetes' reprint only to find blur every 20 pages and horrendous bleed in coloured pages
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Seven Seas shills here a lot and picks up stuff from here
Yen Press DMCA all they can
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>>154332522
>blur every 20 pages and horrendous bleed in coloured pages
Is this legal?
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I only own the Azumanga Daioh omnibus. Pretty good though, they kept all the Japanese jokes rather than making them more localized like the original volumes here
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>>154332543
Is that the new yen press omnibus or the old adv manga one?
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/co/ has a shelf & recent purchases thread almost 24/7, how come /a/ doesn't do these kinds of things? Do most weebs just not buy things?
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>Love Lab will never ever be officially localized
>they still DMCA two years ago and wiped every existing scan from the web
What was that about?
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>>154332541
I threatened the publisher with legal action, they told be to get a life and I woke up the next day with my waifu's severed head in my bed.
And that kids, is why you don't buy shit made by Panini Comics or any other italian publisher.
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>>154332616
>/co/
>weebs
You don't belong here.
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>>154332616
"buyfags" and buyfag general autism
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>>154332650
Sure I do, I'm a weeb with so much manga on my shelves I'm running out of space and need a bigger shelf.
>>154332662
Always thought that was just figurines.
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>>154332616
Buyfags on /a/ buy figures and stuff like that but not books because
>many /a/nons have god-awful local publishers
>elitists and shitposters will mock bookfags for "not buying in original japanese" (despite the industrial standards in Japan being pretty fucking low in terms of product quality)
>most recent stuff not being translated before a couple years and /a/ has a very short attention span
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>>154332680
>so much manga on my shelves I'm running out of space and need a bigger shelf
Post a picture faggot.
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>>154332583
Mine's Yen Press but I wouldn't say it's new as I've had it for almost 10 years
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>>154332701
Don't have a camera, but here's the shit I've got.
>42 volumes of Dragon Ball
>81 volumes of One Piece
>9 volumes of Vagabond
>4 volumes of Planetes
>9 volumes of Black Lagoon
>4 hardcover volumes of Gundam the Origin
>Uzumaki hardcover
>Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind slipcase
>the 3 Phantom Blood hardcovers
>2 volumes of All You Need is Kill
>8 volumes of Otoyomegatari
>10 volumes of Emma
>Everything & Something
>7 volumes of Berserk
>12 volumes of Attack on Titan + the 2 Levi spin-off volumes
>12 volumes of Mirai Nikki + 2 spin-off volumes
>13 volumes of Deadman Wonderland
>5 volumes of Resident Evil manhwa
>4 volumes of 12beast
>3 volumes of Steins;Gate
>6 volumes of Madoka
>Takehiko Inoue's watercolor artbook
>One Piece color walk 1
>Wanted, Oda's short story collection
And that's my manga, western stuff not included.
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I've got some older stuff like Tezuka and Mizuki's Showa, and I've been keeping up with those Jojonium releases, and a bit of Furuya.
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>>154332801
Entry level/10
>Resident Evil manhwa
Get out of here.
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>>154332801
>more than 200
>a lot
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>>154332801
>>5 volumes of Resident Evil manhwa
But why though?
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>>154332852
>>154332861
I'm sorry I'll try harder.
>>154332869
I liked the art. A lot of the shit I buy is just so I can say I'm supporting the industry here.
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>slow as fuck to release
>Overpriced
>Shitty translations
>Mostly terrible shit shows get licenced.
>>154332801
Back to /co/ with your shit-tier taste.
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>>154332900
>Back to /co/
But anon, I'm already there.
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>>154331207
Can't buy it because I'm not from the US
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>>154332912
>inb4 crossboarders calling crossboarders crossboarders
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>>154332929
>inb4 Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo
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>>154332917
Does your country not import things?
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>>154331207
If the translation's good, then who cares?

That's a big if though.
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>>154332962
Tatanka?
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>>154333054
I probably shouldn't have immediately known what you were referencing.
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>Spending hundreds of food stamps on shounenshit.
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>>154333086
As opposed to what? Food? Pfft. You could stand to lose some weight.
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>>154333075
Your such a otaku,my man!
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>>154333108
>otaku
>for understanding a reference to an American movie
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>>154331207
I own all the Naruto Manga Box Sets. They're good.
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>>154333108
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>>154331207
>Cover not perfectly aligned
Why does this bother me so much? How hard would it have been to make a template and keep it constant?
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>>154333171
This happens a lot and it never stops hurting. It's like if you had a drawer and one of them as a little more open than the others but you can't close it, ever.
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American manga translations are killing manga.
If something gets released in america they block it for the whole world.
How many titles have been taken down from online manga readers and lost forever because of ameritard licensing?
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I only own the CCS omnibus, it's actually nice but for some stupid reason the spines are not all aligned the asme way.
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>>154333228
>omnibus
>spines are not all aligned
Shouldn't an omnibus just have the one spine?
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Only own Mobilesuit Gundam The origin because I am a filthy pleb that cant stand paperbacks.
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>>154333251
They're sexy as hell in a neat row, aren't they?
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>>154331840
The viz bigs are good quality.

alil heavy on the hands to hold but good quality.
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>>154333344
Manga that make a picture when you line up the spines are wonderful.
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>>154333305
They indeed are.
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>>154333344
fixed sorry.
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>>154333344
Then I'll be getting them. I'll have to add Rurouni Kenshin and FMA on the shopping list too now that I think about it.
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>>154333393
>gunfags
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>>154333432
Sorry, but my dog died couple years ago so I couldnt get her feet into the picture ;__;
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>>154333393
I wish I gave a shit about gundam. These are pretty.
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>>154333405
>punpun spines have text in different heights


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>154333405
I like those Evas.
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>>154333465
Do you not give a shit because you think it's bad or because you've never tried it?
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>>154333485
I don't give a shit because I just don't like mecha as a genre. Some people just don't like certain things.
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>>154333523
So in other words you don't give a shit because you never tried it.
You should, though. It's a great story about a pointless, futile war and child soldiers
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This is an airplane from furaffinity
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>>154333466
I think the pun pun spins look good, i know some people don't like it though.

>>154333483
Me to bud, me to.
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>>154333553
Okay?
>>154333555
>5cm/s is a manga
Oh god no now I have to get it.
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>>154333553
neat
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>>154332632
Your waifu was a horse? That just aint right.
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>>154333601
I suppose he's a Cereafag.
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>>154331207
Polish translations makes me cringe so much. It's impossible to finish anything in one sitting, because you have to take breaks from cringe. Anyone with semi-decent knowledge of English will read those translations instead. Worst thing, weebs actually buy it, because there's no other option for these fucks - if they can't learn English, then they cannot even dream about learning Japanese. In general, learning japanese in Poland is hard, there's almost none decent learning material. The flow of cancer in Polish fandom is something exceptional. From cancer, for cancer.
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do you guys ever get deep into a series and you don't like it anymore, but you're too stubborn to cut your losses and keep buying volumes anyway?
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>>154333712
What's so terrible about the Polish translations?
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>>154333726
Happened to me with Dragon Ball.
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>>154332096
According the President of J-Novel club, all LN authors get a percentage of the sales of both Japanese and localized volumes.
I'm guessing it's the same for manga.
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>>154333726
Nope i always make sure I'm going to enjoy it. Look into every series i buy.

Spending my hard earned pennies.
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>>154333726
My taste is bad enough, that I'll probably never come to hate something so much I want to get rid of it, if I did like it at first well enough to buy. Even really shitty endings are things I can tolerate if I liked it for a good amount of time. But, I'd never buy anything because I'm poor and I d things cheaply. Not going to blow very much money on something I can more easily get for free, although I might buy a few that I really like someday.
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>>154333726
Back when I was a less proficient weeaboo who bought all the manga I bought I started reading Natsume Yuujinchou. I still like it a lot, but I don't love it or it's viz release, and I read all my other manga as scanlations now. I would be perfectly happy reading natsume that way too, except now I'm 20 volumes in and I just can't stop. I don't want to leave something half done. I secretly pray she'll end the series so I can stop buying them.
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>>154331771
That's what you get for liking bad manga
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>>154333728
Almost everything sounds edgy. Like, weeaboo edgy. Or it's just plain weird for say something like that in Polish, it sounds artificial. I guess there might be better translations around nowadays, 10 years ago, mangas were niche as fuck. Impossible to find outside bigger cities. Another thing, good amount of translations are niche even in Japan itself. They just pick whatever is cheap to translate, I guess, and they go with that. I don't think there's Berserk translation at all, while you can find Thorgal everywhere. As I said, it probably changed a bit nowadays - last time I checked my local shop, they had Pluto and Girls und Panzer manga, not bad.
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>>154332096
Not directly. Western publishers typically pay a lump sum to license a property, and uses the profit from selling translations to license more properties.
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>>154333950
Huh, my bad, they made Berserk translation two years ago. Things really did change for better then.
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>>154333950
>weeaboo edgy
I'd ask for examples but I don't into Polish.
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I can't place my ire in words, but here's an example:
>Scan group: Stop hanging around and let's go!
>Viz: Stop lollygagging!

I had to look up lollygagging since I had no idea what it fucking meant. Learned something that day, but what the fuck? What region of murica does this originate from?
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>>154334092
feels good to be an english native
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>>154334092
Anon you fucking idiot. Lollygagging is a god-tier phrase.
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>>154334092
eurotrash
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>>154334092
Lollygagging is definitely a brit word, but anyone from america would know what it meant.
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>>154333726
Nope. Bought into Gantz, and stopped buying exactly where I dropped the series. Fuck everything about phase 3.
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>>154333950
>I don't think there's Berserk translation at all, while you can find Thorgal everywhere
Apples and Oranges tho.
And what's wrong with Thorgal?
other than Kriss, that is
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>>154333466
Black Lagoon is the fucking worst when it comes to mismatched spines.
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>>154334318
My glorious Finnish versions are completely even. Shame no volume 10 ever.
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>>154334380
Kurosagi Corpse Delivery Service is the biggest "fuck you" series I own. Two years since the last english volume came out, the series has since been rereleased in omnibus format, translations are multiple volumes behind now, and there are only scanlations for half of the English translated volumes online. Being a western fan of it is fucking suffering.
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>>154334092
I want to gag a loli
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>>154334512
>pronouncing loli the same as lolly
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>>154333726
Bleach. I mean, I wasn't buying the volumes, but I was following the manga week after week online. I was with it all the way to the end.

And...I kinda wish that I had stopped reading after they defeated Aizen and locked him up. It would have been better that way.

I didn't lose any money on it. But I still got burned.
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>>154334523
How do you pronounce lolly?
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>>154334575
Like in lollipop.
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>>154334595
How do you pronounce loli?
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>>154334660
Like Lolita.
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>>154334660
low-lie
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Official translations are fine. The problem is selling them. I live in the Philippines, yet I wish American translations are sold there. Problem is, they're not marketed enough for there to be a demand. Same with anime.

It's for those reasons above that I now understand why pirating and fan translations exist. Not a problem for both in my country, but is so in the United States. I've seen "please buy official translations to support the author." I wish I could do so, but in the Philippines, not so.
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>>154334747
If something isn't translated into my language, I just buy the English version online.
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>>154334747
Flipfag here.

Fully Booked or any Half-Competent bookstores allow you to order via them. I've gotten lots of Manga English releases by just ordering through them.

Better yet, just order the damn books yourself via whatever online service you're comfortable with. This can go for the English Releases or even the original Tankoubons if you can into moonrunes.
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>>154334777
>>154334803
>buying manga online with exorbitant prices
Stop, you are playing into the jews hands.
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>>154334924
The original release price of the volume I bought was 19 USD. (Lucifer and Biscuit Hammer Vol 9-10 Compilation)

What I ended up paying was the equivalent of 20.5 USD. Service charge of the store already included.

Now if you're the type that frets over a fucking dollar and fifty cents, then you might want to consider reevaluating who to call a Jew. Alternatively, stop being such a goddamn poorfag.
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>>154334924
Exorbitant? I think not. Manga is fucking cheap compared to the western crap I buy.
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>>154335016
>>154335031
>shipping is equally cheap to every part of the world
idiots
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>>154335047
But manga is STILL fucking cheap compared to the western crap I buy, the shipping costs don't change that.
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>>154335062
You do realize 20 bucks is a monthly wage in most countries?
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>>154335074
Maybe you should become more successful then.
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>>154332431
>collected in bigger volumes
>>154332514
And getting a triple thick binded book that is harder to read while missing the cover art of the next two volumes included?
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>>154335088
Don't make us nuke your sorry ass.
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>>154335108
Good luck nuking me, I'm behind seven proxies.
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>>154334380
>Shame no volume 10 ever
Why is that? Even the slow ass German version got Volume 10 already.
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>>154335128
Guess it just doesn't sell enough for it to be worth the effort.
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>>154335074
>20 bucks is a monthly wage in most countries
>monthly

For part timers? Maybe.

But a full time job with that salary? What the fuck is "most countries" to you? Countries in Africa or those death workshop factories in China?
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>>154331207
I guess it's okay as long as your local publisher puts in real effort.
The first and the last time I tried buying manga was when one of our huge publishers tried to test the market by selling imported Tokyopop editions of a few series. Managed to nab 7 volumes of Saiyuki, at a price that was not friendly to my wallet, especially given I was a relatively poor university student at a time. Gave up when I realized they will not restock what i wanted and have at that point started expanding their inventory with, I wouldn't say garbage, but definitely something I'd be sorry giving money for. I've checked again last year, they got a little better, but are still horribly behind.

99% of manga I've read would have never found its way to me if it weren't for scanlations.
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>>154335207
>99% of manga I've read would have never found its way to me if it weren't for scanlations.
This pretty much.
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>>154335201
He's just fishing for replies.
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>>154335252
But why? What does he do with all those (You)s?
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>>154335074
>20 bucks
>monthly

Go back to the sweatshop Pajeet.
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>>154333393
WHY IS VOLUME 6 BEORE VOLUME 4 STOP FUCKING TRIGGERING ME YOU FAGGOT
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>>154335201
>For part timers? Maybe.

Son, even a shitty dead end part time job can net you at hundred bucks a month.
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>>154333405
are the vinland saga hardcovers hard to read?
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>>154335265
Invests them. In the future, (You) will be the only currency worth anything.
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Muh mangoes. Need a better potato.

>>154333726
I fire to the side at times. I've bought series hoping the author's other, more interesting works would be picked up.

There's also buying into certain themes hoping publishers would give them more love. Please buy 4koma and military moe.
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>>154335635
I'm saving this so I can look at it on those cold lonely nights.
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Due to shit taste and too much money/free time, I actually do have a few.
I don´t really have anything to compare the translations to, though, so no idea if they are bad or not.
Just sometimes I feel like the translator did not really get what the original was trying to say due to not knowing where the story might be headed.
I think this could be the biggest problem with official translations in general.
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>>154335635
>Twin Spica 5, 9, 11
I take it you collected that series after it went out of print.
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>>154335850
those berserk volumes look sweet.
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>>154335850
>Berzerk vol. 16
>Kentaro
>Miura

>Berzerk vol. 17
>Kentaro Miura

>Berzerl vol. 18
>Kentaro
>Miura

WHY
WHY
WHYYYYYY
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>>154335635
>Sumomomo Momomo
Is that any good?
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>>154335859
Well spotted.

It's a bit of an adventure. But it's how I got Cromartie and School Rumble.
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>>154335891
They are okay. A two-for-one deal, it was the only way to get some of the earlier ones because the single ones are long sold out here.
Problem is that Vol. 38 is out since last month or so, but my autism won´t let me buy it and makes me wait for Vol. 19 of this MAX series, which could probably take two or three years if they even gonna do one.
Some of them have some issues with text being hard to read / very small, but from what I noticed this got fixed around Vol 10.
Funny thing about the German version is that they still call her Kjaskar or something like this. Then again, they were the Band of the Falcons (Die Falken) from the very beginning

>>154335944
Yeah it sucks, guess it has to do with the different thickness of them. They started with just one line on the first but then just went random.
The whole thing has a very old school layout in general with the weird advertisment in star form and all.
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>they're all different
It hurts.
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>>154336029
If you like Magi.

The anime was a bit memetic back in the day.

Tenten Koganei best girl, even if Sanae is fine too.

Otherwise a time killer and not terribly exciting.
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>>154336069
still can't believe i own an english translated version of monogatari, this shit was crazy talk 6 years ago
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>>154336095
>6 years ago was 6 years ago
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>>154336095
Yeah it's great that it happened. Especially since Nisio's editor is actually heavily involved.
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>>154336095
now if only the full metal panic license would get saved, dumbass tokyopop, how does a company that did nothing right last as long as they did?
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>>154336215
Struck gold early and rode the manga wave of the early 00s. They were the first to discover and properly exploit the huge untapped market for non-cape comics in the US. Still alive in Germany.

>>154332377
Prepare your wallet for Dragon Half.
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>>154331207

Trillions time better than cancer scanlators and their watermarks, lol rants xD, happy birthday faggot-kun!, happy anniversary, note page: that was funny, "man, I really hate this series I dont know why I am doing this", etc.

Only exception is the scum of Keith Giffen and tokyopop. Those deserve worse torture than scan faggots.
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>>154331983
Just remembered that air gear things, good times that were.
Also all the arguments you've used are true, the fact that France is the 2nd consumer of mangas helped the editor to translate
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>>154335635
>military moe
I do solely for more Strike Witches TLs. Maybe someone will even pick up and finish the novels someday.

Someday.
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Can be a little stiff and too literal sometimes, but most of the time blows scanlations out of the water because half seem to border on fanfic rather than an actual translation.
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>>154335635
>sumomomo momomo

waste potential
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Part of my 2650 volume collection. Everything in boxes is manga.
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>>154336688
Do you collect Japanese manga too or is it all just english?
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>>154336688
Most of it seems to be trash.
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>>154336688
you could start a manga store
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>>154336688
>2650 volume collection
I am not worthy.
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>>154336688
There's a Judge Dredd manga?
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>>154336713
Mostly English. I have Japanese edition of hokuto no ken, because being a man is enough to understand it

>>154336768
Its all start with 6 volumes of Hyper Police 8 years ago

>>154336782
Its a comic, but its so good

Will move this year to new apartment were I will have custom bookshelf and display for plastic butts
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>>154336782
Looks like just the collected volumes of the british comics.
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>>154331207
No idea about the US but in France it's decent, TL notes and everything.
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>>154333657
But she's a centaur.
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>>154334179
There's nothing wrong with Thorgal. I meant, those series have similar premise. Very good drawing, darker fantasy themes, and so on. If people in Poland enjoy Thorgal so much, it's pretty logical they would enjoy Berserk too. Yet we had our polish Berserk only two years ago.

>>154334082
I tried looking for some. Yep, still cringey as fuck. People just don't speak edgy teen stuff like that. Yea, translation is good in general, don't get me wrong. But, uhh... They should really, really work on editing.
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>>154336918
Thorgal and Berzerk are pretty similar now that you mention it.
Except Thorgal survived the death of its writer and Berzerk isn't surviving his lifetime.
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>>154331656
>Seven Seas
They either butchered or ignored a bunch of little jokes in D-frag.

>>154331816
Because they actually care since there's actual significant fanbase there. Similar deal with Asian territories like Taiwan.
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>>154331207
Spanish translations are awful.
I'd rather learn moonglyphs than supporting the tl mafia.
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>>154336918
Okay, just one thing I found online in 5 minutes.

From Polish:
> Let's go, Soul Eater!
> Awwight!
> Ooo! You had changed into a scythe! How fancy <3
> Your soul belong to us! With it, we will finally change Soul into ,,Death Scythe"!
> You know what? I like this scythe! I think I will take it! <3
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What are your favorite manga about witches? English not required.
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>>154334318
>that bend
You need to get sturdier shelves.
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>>154333171
It could have been worse.
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>>154334318
>spear Honda
>Kazuno
>Asama
Good taste, anon.
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>>154331656
>Seven Seas a best tho
Sarcasm?
They're not Toykyo Pop tier, but fuck their low quality pandering asses.

>>154334426
I feel your pain.
I stopped buying manga all together a few years ago for space and money concerns. Work has been poor lately. Also I've been buying manga since the 90's, and now some of the stuff I own is full blown, 'Why do I own this? When did I buy this?'

The last time I took an image of my main book shelves was 2013, and they haven't changed much since then.
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>>154335047
Did you know that bookdepository exists and that the shipping is free?
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>>154338068
No, it's not.
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>>154336465
Get your friends to buy everything Strike Witches, GuP and Arpeggio.
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The original spines and covers almost always look much better than the localised versions. Translated versions also seem to take out colour page pretty often too. For collecting, originals are much better.
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Anyone have those nice looking Jojo ones? Man I want them but they're like $17 a pop!
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>>154339799
Deal with it.
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>>154339799
>tfw out-of-print stuff you want is 60 yurobucks per volume now
hold my beer I'm gonna do a flip from that bridge
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>>154331207
why westerner print uneven?
are you messing with customers?
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>>154341303
It's Dark Horse's gimmick.

The other publishers are more consistent.
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>>154336688
>Judge Dredd
Muh nigga
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>>154331816

Because they actually buy manga.

Unlike in burgerland, where a worrying number of people don't even know their favorite manga are in English (I still remember people chimping out when Viz told Mangastream to stop scanlating Jump, many not even knowing what Viz was).
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>>154331207

I buy the English tanks for my favorite manga.

I wish they'd find a way to make them cheaper, though. 10 bucks a fucking book when I can get the JP one in Japan for 3 is fucking bullshit.
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>>154331708

>Not if they're Viz.

Doesn't Viz get a lot of their translators from the scanlation scene? I know the guy doing My Hero Academia used to be a part of Powermanga.

Why are those translators "great" and "better than the official" when they're doing it for free, but "garbage" when they're actually getting paid for it?
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>>154332632
Stop being such a drama queen. I have hundreds of manga published by Panini, including the first number of Planetes, and I never came across something like that. The only thing that came close was a Death Note volume with some missing pages, which I agree is unacceptable, but it literally happened once in like 7 years of collecting manga.
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>>154342259
Because /a/ wants to pretend it's still 2004, that streaming still means you won't get over 460p, that publishers only have two guys who can speak japanese and 8 with an automatic translator, that official releases are still printed on yellow paper, etc.
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>>154342383
I was just kidding but honestly, the resized versions of Planetes are really not good.
The original print was really good but the two "deluxe" editions are really not good.
>1100 pages in one hardcover volume
pls no
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>>154336688

You could make a found a fucking library with that.
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>>154331207
Even worse than official dubs, which are already shit.
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>Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou will never be officially translated

Drives me mad lads.
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>>154342738

Save money.

Learn Japanese.

Make your own mini publishing company for obscure manga.

Be the hero /a/ needs, but doesn't deserve.
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>>154334318
Odd that you don't have the Berserk figures in front of your volumes of Berserk.
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>>154339799
$17 a pop is perfectly reasonable.
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>>154337190
I don't get it.
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>>154331207
I don't bother with official translations anymore. I can deal with liberal translations like pic related, but Yen Press and Kodansha have both done really annoying shit like romaji sound effects or bad name translations (e.g. Johann into Joan).
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>>154337834
That Ayako is looking pretty sexy by the size of it, how is it?
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I've purchased 2 volumes of manga in my life, and it was only because the scans available were fucking horrible and I couldn't stand reading them. last two volumes of Sundome. I was even tempted to try my hand at scanning, but I've never done it before and I didn't really feel like chopping up my first manga purchase

also been tempted by the Lupin and Spice and Wolf manga
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>>154344718
no scan
no respect
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>>154334318
God, I need to start getting me some copies of Dorohedoro
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>>154344756
I know I'm a little bitch

I just checked and volume 7 on madokami is a scan of the yen press version and volume 8 has the same translation, but is a little rough around the edges. If I recall correctly then the only scan available when I bought these was way worse than that.
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>>154339799
yeah man, they're fucking sweet, i bought most of them with a 3 for 2 offer so it wasn't that bad. also i don't like hardcovers but these were pretty easy to read
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>>154331207
>they changed the spines on the newly printed volumes
>can't find old versions for <$40
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>>154331708
>Not if they're Viz.
As long as they don't censor shit they're fine. Way better than Yen Piss.
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>>154337766
I would honestly buy BBB if it wasn't for this fuckery
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Just got the first two volumes of Galko, looking forward to PunPun this month. I'm hoping they localize DDD Destruction because I've been really enjoying it.
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>tfw want to buy loads of manga
>poor part time fag so can't afford too much
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>>154346132
It builds up over time, trust me.
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>>154345449
>tfw you have all the volumes in their originally printed form, bought for release price, some still in adult-content wrap because you reread the series in digital form to keep the books pristine.

I'm going to make a pretty penny one day.
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>>154346155
well I'm onto volume 9 of Berserk and Volume 2 of Vinland saga but I really want to get Vagabond, 20th century boys, monster, Akira and perhaps Gundam.
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Who supported based Fujita's break into the US market here? Unfortunately has some typos but as long as it opens the possibility for more of his works getting noticed in the English license circles I don't mind too much.
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>>154346312
It's too bad that volume 38 will be the new spines.
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>>154333466
Isnt that intentional though? I only got 3 of them but they go down the same height each time so im guessing the last volume is supposed to have the text at the bottom.
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Does anyone know if theres a chance of Jormungand volume 6 getting printed again because the only place i can find it being sold is on Amazon for 200$
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>>154346704
Doing my part on the froglander front
>the Ghost and the Lady coming up in april
My body will be ready.
Karakuri Circus was stopped mid-publication because people stopped caring, I'm not letting this happen again.
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>>154347562
My local shop has one copy.
https://www.staffars.se/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=19402
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>>154346704
Bought both of those, great stuff. Hopefully they bring more Fujita. Unfortunately UshiTora or Karakuri will never come to the States because they're too long... Hopefully they bring Springald like >>154347638
Also that's the saddest story I've heard (today). Hearing Moyashimon is getting scanned again yesterday reminded me that it was cancelled in the States.
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>>154347993
UshiTora could have been released as 11 3-in-1s, if they had started last year to ride the anime.
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>>154332377
Killed off Kurosagi Corpse Delivery Service just a few volumes before it would have ended.
Hate 'em.
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>>154331207
i have only a handful of titles but if a series interest me much or/and scanlations aren't that far ahead then i'll try to buy it instead of reading it online
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>>154347754
Thanks a lot m8. Now i'll finally be able to get the rest of the volumes too
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>>154331207
I will be dead before Berserk gets hardcover copies with more than 160 pages.
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>>154342259
Viz occasionally outsources translators from translation companies to do their manga, if anything it causes even more mistakes because they're unfamiliar with what they're working on.
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>>154331708
Viz is fine, outside of a few glaring exceptions
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I didn't know why Tokyopop closed until I managed to score all of their english GTO on ebay. There were places in at least 2 or 3 of the first few volumes where the text didnt line up with the speech bubbles in the slightest, or was straight up unreadable.
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>>154346704
I was surprised they did this, the license must have been cheap or something. Just annoyed they skipped over the first story in the series though.
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>>154350721
>straight up unreadable.
I remember having a lot of trouble reading GTO when I bought some volumes, the text was too small for my crappy eyesight.
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>>154350794
It got better as the volumes went by, but I remember having to skip pages in the early volumes. Ill see if I can find some of the volumes.
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>>154346704
If Ushio or Karakuri Circus get licensed I will jump for joy.
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Dark Horse has to know what they're fucking doing when they change the spine designs. Have they ever released any sort of comment on this or do they really just not give a fuck
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>>154331207
The only problem I've had with my country's localized manga is the translation of Prison School. They removed Gakuto's formal way of speaking altogether for no apparent reason.
Apart from that, the translations are usually good.
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>>154351421
Every time I look at the spines of my Rayearth omnibuses I want to cry. I didn't know that was a regular thing with Dark Horse.
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Is there such a thing as a decent quality, cheap, not too big bookshelf for a small apartment. Last time I bought one it was $30 from Walmart and the top shelf started to bend immediately after putting a few books on it
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>>154350858
>so this... is the power of english TL editors...
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>>154350721
Never had a problem with any of my Tokyopop stuff. They went bankrupt because they were still blowing tons of money on buying new licences and clogging store shelves when the manga bubble burst.
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>>154351750
>Should we translate the sound effects?
>nah lmao
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I dont suppose knows a better way to place these because i've got like 20-ish more volumes of various sizes ordered and i am running out of space.
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>>154349099
>06 04 03 02 01 05
>2 3 1
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>>154351869
Forgot the picture
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>>154351862
>Don't bother cleaning up the text boxes bro

>>154351816
Yeah, I am nitpicking, it was only really like this in the early volumes of GTO. It still shouldn't have happened at all though.
>What even is QA?
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>>154331207
I only read scanlations and buy the manga / doujins in Japanese. It's good way to keep up with the language anyways.
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>>154351916
You need a better bookcase.

IKEA Billy (with 1-2 extra shelves) is pretty much made with manga in mind.
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>>154351421
>>154351609
Most of my books from other publishers are pretty good with spines but I bought the first 2 volumes of Kekkai Sensen and I was already crying.
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>>154351999
I was going to but it was a bit too tall to fit in the car. The one i have is about the same size though, its just that the 2 lower shelves are filled with other shit and i also dont want to risk my cat climbing in there.
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>Vol. 2+ covers and spines glow in the dark
>Vol. 1 doesn't
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>>154351609
That's why I only bought part one.
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>>154351716
You should try a flea market or looking in some mom & pop antique/trading shops, those usually have decent handmade bookshelfs. I was able to get lucky and buy one for $15 at an estate auction.
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>>154344494
Good quality book, Vertical never disappoints.
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>>154352557
It looks like they need to step up their spine game
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>>154351926
I wouldn't call that nitpicking, the quality is subpar. Even speedscans look better than this garbage, typesetting wise. Tokyopop was a mistake.
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Must read manga with good art?

Currently reading Berserk & Vinland Saga.
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>>154347210

Yeah, but can't have everything I guess.
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>>154334318
>full span wrapping rather than by case wrapping
Why do people do this

Moreover, why does it trigger me every fuckin time
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>>154351916
How's Ninja Slayer?
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>>154353936
Pretty good but the timeline is all over the place since they're drawing parts people have voted for.
Im honestly not sure how it works exactly
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>>154333466
I think it's supposed to look like a shooting star once it's finished.
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Have about ~200 volumes worth of stuff. This shelf has a bit less than half of it, rest is things I don't care as much about and they're currently just stuffed into another shelf. I don't have much room so I'm quite picky about what I get physically these days.
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>>154356825
>Fakku
>>
>Aria still not done
>tfw no moon after 6 years
I hate myself, why can't I just sit down and learn moon? I can do it with maths and CS. Fuck. /int/ help me.
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>>154357502
Have you ever seen Fakku books live? The quality is pretty damn good. Better than the vast majority of manga you can buy in English. I was legit amazed with the first one I got, which is what made me want more.
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>>154333726
Yes, happened to me with Claymore.
At least I got Teresa at the end.
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>>154356825
>Fakku
Fuck off Daiz.
At least I'm grateful that they're doing unscensored works and they're getting ripped.
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>>154333726
>start buying Deadman Wonderland as it is released
>stop at volume 4 because of other stuff and other expenses
>cue to several years later
>think about picking it back up
>try to read it again
>interest : lost
In one hand, it had a lot to do with already knowing it, in the other hand I'm not that fond of the tone anymore.
Does it get good later on or does it go stale?
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>>154358104
DW is mediocre. By all means finish it since it's not that long.
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>>154356825
> I'm quite picky about what I get physically
>filling your shelf with most of Fakku's releases
No; you're clearly not picky at all.
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>>154331207
What are the rarest manga you own /a/?

Mine is definitely The Walking Man Hardcover.

Generally going for over $1000 right now. Probably followed by The Strange Tale of Panorama Island.
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I live in Japan so my collection's pretty haphazard - I buy and resell things just to save space all the time. It's hard to build up a huge collection when you live in a 25 sq m apartment.

>>154332698
>the industrial standards in Japan being pretty fucking low in terms of product quality
The reason for that is that comics are still considered disposable material here in Japan - Jump is printed on recycled paper, only bunko or kanzenban get HQ paper similar to the US.

I think America should adopt a lower quality/price model, and put out a deluxe edition later (like how American comics typically have tpbs and omnibus editions now).
[And as a brief aside, the comic industry as a whole should also move towards releasing monthlies with non-glossy paper at half the price if publishers want to survive on more than movie deals]

But the US has had this trend since the early 90s when digital coloring blew up that would be hard to reverse now. But they definitely should.
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>>154356825
https://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=2232285
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>>154342442
Are you talking about the Dark Horse version of Planetes since they seem to be fine for me although I just bought mine so it might just be a difference in printing edition
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>>154359116
The physical release of the first 4 volumes of the Amazon Kindle-only US English translation of the Doraemon manga.

One literally cannot get these unless they know someone in Singapore that can ship or somehow find the English copies (and not the local language ones) in the wild somewhere else in SEA.
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>>154359168
>he reason for that is that comics are still considered disposable material here in Japan
The main reason though I'd say is that the overall business model of putting out a lot of material targeting small audiences to capitalize on all markets instead of betting on the success of one central product is only viable if you keep production costs as low as possible to offer an affordable product to the consumers.
As opposed to the american industry that is on the opposite end and relies far too much on central titles and volatile products on the side that often result in a loss.
>But the US has had this trend since the early 90s when digital coloring blew up that would be hard to reverse now.
Digital colouring is the cancer that is killing comic books everywhere. It looks like ass, and I have honestly only seen one person use it in an interesting way that wouldn't be possible with other tools
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>>154358822
Yeah I guess I'm better off finishing it. It's not well known nor sought after so even if I sold it I'd just get a couple bucks.
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>>154359116
>Generally going for over $1000 right now.
Hate to burst your bubble, but you're a /co/mrade so I won't go easy on you - there's one on eBay selling for $30 right now.

The rarest reprint collection I owned was Incal (the Humanoids deluxe size that had a limited print run), which I sold for $600. And that was unusually high. $1000 is unheard of for reprints.

>>154359478
This is interesting; I've definitely never seen it in Japan.
I'm translating some odd titles on the side that I'd love to get published in English, but I also rather just scanlate and dump them for free. I think the English-speaking market of SEA has a lot of buying potential especially though, even if they are usually poor.
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>>154359591
But muh $3.99 monthlies I can finish in less than five minutes.

The industry needs to return to late 80s Baxter print paper, similar to TDKR or the Akira translations Marvel put out. Keep four color dots in the monthlies, save the digital coloring for the deluxe editions (although that sort of un-uniformity) would probably cause its own share of complaints among the autist collectors, it's the only way to revive the industry.

There are other reasons why manga is successful in Japan - $3 Jump with the extra costs covered by 50 pages of ads, a secondhand market that lets readers easily jump into long series, anime/merch tie-ins and a lack of social stigma that makes it an acceptable hobby, generally, etc.
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This is my humble manga collection.
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>>154359116
>tfw no rare mangos
Rarest I have would be the full original print of Planetes (it's not really rare, the print was not that small but it's high in demand since all the other upscaled french reprints are ass) or Leiji Matsumoto's Ring of the Nibelungen (only 4 volumes out of 7, not very common but only fly for 50€ per volume or so)

>>154359809
Another big saving grace for the comic book industry in Japan is that instead of putting itself into competition with television, both became complementary. This is where euros and burgers have failed (it's especially visible in french-belgian comics, the drop in popularity coincides so closely to the arrival of cable TV, it's not even funny), although the tendency might be reverting in the USA (but with all the big money involved and subsidiary companies shenanigans, it probably won't trickle down to the comic books and only bloat the movie-making-machine even furether)
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>>154359809
The comic industry is dying?
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>>154360213
The US comic industry is in a weird spot and it will have to change because it isn't really viable as it is. Comic books are still in a weird spot when it comes to digital releases because in one hand the offer is there from publisher but does not interest anyone, on the other hand there is some pirating and the banality of free music and movies made a lot of people reluctant towards paying for media overall.
As if the archaic business model (made sense when you had three guys to pay every month to write 20 pages with sloppy colouring, not so much when the art is taking so much time everyone is either resorting to cheap tricks or struggling with deadlines) the batshit-insane ingerence of "diversity comissions" pushing their racial and gender quotas, replacing characters with "totally the same except black/woman/disabled/fat/alloftheabove" to please an audience that doesn't even buy their products did not help at all.
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>>154356825
The quality of original japanese H-manga is insane. Overall books are better and much better paper quality than any shounen or seinen manga you would buy,
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>>154360213
I hope you're not bating me, but yeah, of course it is.

The affiliated industries are keeping it on life support, and a few publishers have managed to transition to digital media, but if you compare the numbers to the corporate bloat of the 90s, or the proliferation of small/indie publishers in the 80s, the comic book industry is largely failing.

Anyways, my reading pile next to my bed, along with an unpictured Lupin (which I really wanna find time to translate, since Tokyopop's out of print edition were essentially guess subs trying to make it sound like an Austin Powers movie).
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>>154360452
>mfw H doesn't get published in large enough numbers so independent/self-published cannot be cheap and print on brown paper
>mfw they have no choice but deliver a quality product because the shitty raw material doesn't come in small enough quantities
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I regret buying most of this. Some of them were hand-me-downs like Black Cat and Chrono Crusade. Others were partly Borders dying and me getting their shitty leftovers.

I apologize in advance for that unpainted portion of the wall, my incomplete series, and my tastes not appealing to everyone(having nothing).
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>>154360503
>The affiliated industries are keeping it on life support, and a few publishers have managed to transition to digital media
A lot of people that support the already dying industry refuse to buy digital "media" and would boycott if there was a major shift to digital like there was with PC games.
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>>154360515
I didn't realize they didn't have a choice. When I get off work I'll take some pics of my favorite porn mangos.
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>>154360548
How does it feel knowing HxH will never be complete?
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>>154360696
Not so bad. I will always have autism over incomplete series, but it can't be worse than waiting 10 years for the Ant arc to finish up with scribbles. Those know true suffering.
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>>154359116
The same two, I guess. Maybe Black Jack as well? I don't think anything else I own is that rare.
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>>154360607
It's not that they don't have a choice, it's that often it's preferable for them to have for a lower price a smaller quantity of books printed on good paper rather than the minimum quantity required for a mass printing on cheap paper. Keep in mind hentai has very small distribution networks that couldn't handle larger quantities anyway.
or maybe it's just tougher paper so the books are hotglue-proof and since no circle writes fast enough to make you buy a new mango every time you're done wanking, they want it to last longer
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>>154360565
I would refuse, I'm a big supporter of the print industry and feel a huge disconnect with a physical media being read through a digital medium - that sort of discomfort hardly exists with videogames since the media/medium is essentially the same regardless (the rise of mp3s definitely made that transition easier for vidya too, although they're only tangentially related).

Remember when Marvel included digital codes for its books, if you purchased the physical copies? They might still do it, I don't know, but I do know that when I was still in the US, no one actually used them - people even tried 'selling' them on eBay at reduced rates, but there was just no reason to buy them except out of novelty or by those trying to adapt to a new system.

When those 50 year old collectors who go and buy fifty titles a month from their LCS die out or give up, the market's definitely going to have to shift.
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>>154360954
>I would refuse
I would too, I forgot to put "such as myself" in my post. Personal opinion, but I feel the same way about games and music. Luckily, pretty much all music I listen to has an actual CD I can buy. Can't say the same for games I want to play so I just end up pirating or not playing at all.
Like you already implied, the fact that the comic book industry isn't digitized as much as other entertainment isn't a reason for the industry decline at all.
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>>154359627
Do you have a link to the ebay listing you mentioned? I don't see it.
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>>154361262
Anon please, it's the first listing that comes up if you search for 'the walking man jiro'.
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>>154361475
Yeah. I see it now. Swear it wasn't showing up though. I usually use bookfinder to find the lowest prices on books but I don't think it checks ebay listings.

Either way that's a great price for it, if anyone is looking for it, they should jump on that. It's the only one I see that low by the way, and yeah I doubt people are actually going to pay $1000 for it but I haven't seen it go low in a while.

Ebay always seems to be the best place to get these kind of things if you're patient.
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Speaking of bookcases, what does everyone think of the Ikea Gersby? It's pretty cheap and I don't really have enough manga to fill it all up yet
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>>154357502
I need to see the raw
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>>154362763
https://exhentai.org/g/810969/93aa619594/
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>>154332622
>love lab will never get a second season
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>>154362390
Manga look best on a white shelf, so I'm sure it would be good. Giver you room to build your collection.
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>>154341687
Why do you have two of the same volume of bride's story?
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>>154333523
>I don't give a shit because I just don't like mecha as a genre.
Ah, these people are truly the worst. It's always newfags who have no experience with the genre but decided they unequivocally dislike everything that features robots. I bet he likes Evangelion.
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>>154334426
Why is One Punch Man in that picture?
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>>154363157
People have like different things, anon.
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>>154364535
Disliking what you have no experience with is insanity.
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>>154359809
I'd do away with the color altogether.

Have BW anthology bricks with many but small pages (I think B5 is the right paper size) printed on toilet paper in physical non-comic-shops. Much like the Donald Duck collections of Germany or Scandinavia. Put in coupons and crossword puzzles and anything to keep people from collecting them.

Comics shops and online can then deal with the luxury colored collections of individual series.
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>>154363157
i like mecha, but there's literally only a handful of /m/ manga. most are released to promote an upcoming anime, the medium where the genre is best.
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>>154367438
>but there's literally only a handful of /m/ manga
In English? Yeah. In Japanese? No.
>anime, the medium where the genre is best.
Oh fuck off newfag. I can already guess you're a self proclaimed realfag.
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>>154367471
this is the officially trnaslated manga thread, no? of course i expect there to be more untranslated works, i'd kill for tetsujin
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