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>Rin is a deity of prostitutes Why?

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>Rin is a deity of prostitutes

Why?
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>>154265516
You know why.
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>>154265516

She lets old men fuck her ass for money.
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>>154265516
I'm glad Rider is a refined lady.
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>>154265736
DIRTY
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>>154265516
Why did they do this to my waifu, why not whore out Sakura instead? I still can't believe it.
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Because "pure" moeblobs are dreadfully boring and cliche.
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>implying anything besides the original VN and F/HA is canon
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>>154268634
Because Sakura is pure and devoted, unlike Rin.
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>>154265516
You got to wonder about any society that has it's goddes of prostitutes also be a war god.
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Rin is a virgin and only butthurt manchildren say otherwise.
>Using an H doujin by a third party as evidence for your claims
Pathetic, but this is to be expected. After all, the only way you could hate perfection like Rin is if you were envious, dumb, and poor.
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>>154270236
>using a H scene that's been replaced in all other official materials as evidence
She always behaved like a slut. Any virginity she ever had was purely by coincidence.
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>>154269990
The whole magic semen thing makes no fucking sense. It was said in the VN several times that Saber had a huge amount of reserves of magical energy, that's how she managed to fight for so long without Shirou giving her magic. And Shirou has a rather small amount of magical energy compared to Tohsaka and specially Saber. So how is his semen supposed to give Saber any significant amount of mana? It would be like spitting in an empty pool.
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>>154270443
>The whole magic semen thing makes no fucking sense
It makes a lot of sense, if you stop for even a minute to consider the relationship between bodily fluids and magic in both western and eastern occult tradition.

Consider tibetan Buddhism where the yogi fucks a woman without ejaculating to drain her of her life energy and elevate his status towards a "perfected" androgynous being in that moment to come closer to enlightenment.
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>>154265516
Say it with me:
TOHSAKA
RIN
PLEASES
OLD
MEN
FOR
MONEY
OOOOOOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
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>>154270443
That plot point was made to ensure H scenes with all the heroines so its pretty lame.
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>>154270563
I didn't explain myself well. I'm fine with semen giving mana to another person, but I would consider that the amount of mana given would be dependant on the guy. Shirou has nowhere near enough magical energy to give Saber a considerable amount. Plus, after the ritual he doesn't appear tired of anything, even though he just got squezzed dry. His semen seems to have magical energy on its own, completely unrelated to the man. Hell, it would need to have more mana than Shirou himself for it to work.
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>>154270991
>His semen seems to have magical energy on its own, completely unrelated to the man
That's essentially how it works in occultism. Semen and blood are mana reserves you can't draw on.
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>>154270443
If you really want an explanation, it's because Saber's contract was fucked up and she needed a mana jumpstart to activate her reactor.
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>>154266034
She's a soul sucking gorgon you crazy bastard.
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>>154265516
Because Type-Moon can't think of anymore half-decent character designs.
They pretty much spent themselves after their interpretation of Jeannee, and even that was just sort of retreading Saber.
They can't stop recycling.
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>>154270236

that doujin is so famous you can basically see it as canon.
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>>154272141
She can suck my soul all she wants
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>>154270664

saber of all people has nothing to laugh. she appeared in the same hentai.
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>>154270664

Everyone does.
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>>154265516

IS THERE HENTAI OF HER IN THAT OUTFIT

PLEASE
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>>154265516
So they can break their "No Gods" rule and put a popular non Servant in their mobage at the same time.
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>>154272304
She's very new, I'd give it a few months for the next Comiket.
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>>154265516
The smile looks bad drawn
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>>154272888

I've already seen plenty of material for Scathatch.

This Rin version begs for lewds!
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>>154270991
I always thought Shirou's shit magic capacity wasn't so much shit magic capacity as much as his own inability to make use of it, especially when he keeps bypassing what should be his limits, and the fact additional fact Archer actually has pretty amazing reserves.
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>>154273223
Scath has been out for awhile on FGO anon, Istarin hasn't. Patience, kouhai.
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>>154265516

rin is the type of character to sell her body for money
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>>154273273
>Patience

how can i be patient? just look at her character design!
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Was Gilgamesh supposed to be physically weak or inept at fighting?
Take away his armor and his spammed weapons and some fit high school kid could beat him.
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>>154272304
>>154272304
Just search Ishtar on sadpanda and you'll also get her blonde sister.
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>>154273271
Archer isn't supposed to have the same abilities as Shirou, though. He was elevated to Guardian status upon death and given a massive power boost. If I recall it's even explicitly stated that he's much stronger than he was in life.
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>>154275505
>Take away his armor and spammed weapons
No one except Shirou can take away his weapons. Gil will dumpster everyone and anyone except Shirou, which he could have dumpstered, but didn't want to admit he was a serious threat until it was too late.
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>>154278080
How did he become such a badass before having any weapons?
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>>154278122
>Half god half human
Wonder how.
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>>154278142
But he got beat on a (more or less) equal playing field to a teenager.
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>>154278191
The only reason he was beaten was because he didn't take Shirou seriously until he had already lost. Gil would have dumpstered Shirou in an actual sword fight had he bothered to do so, but he didn't.
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>>154278259
So even after wiping out his trump card he still held back his superior strength and skill?
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>>154278489
>Wiping out his trump card
By the time Gil decided to pull Ea it was already over.
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Was Caster from a time were mages didn't have to get fit to cast magic?
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>>154265516
because her grade for Pleasing Old Men For Money was so high (SSS++) that they only way Takeuchi could canon explain that was to make her Ishtar's avatar.
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Why did Gilgamesh lose his boner for Saber in UBW?
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>>154279132
He was going to make his move after he killed the Faker. Fakers are total mood-killers.
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>>154265633

When will they fuck?
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>Taiga is the familiar of an Aztec god of war and chaos

I guess that makes sense.
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>>154280189

She looks a bit like Gil there. That haughty look.
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>>154272141
Better than pleasing old men for money.
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>>154280513

No Rider will just ride whoever she can. Including Rin.
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>>154276521
>Only one doujin and it's not even that good
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>>154280189
It's sad that this is the most relevant Taiga will probably ever be.
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>>154283618
Remember that time Taiga saved the world?
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>>154283686
Those two have so much sexual tension for one another they need to fuck to get it out of their systems.
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>>154283721
Yeah. Three times in one evening.
And yet she still gets nothing.
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>>154283771

When?
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>>154275505
I remember they mentioned in the VN that he wasn't that good at actual sword fighting, or at least nowhere near as good as Seibah.
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>>154283801
Drama CD where she's looking for the person who stole her friends wine, and then she teams up with Waver to help find a lost puppy's owner.
Over the course of that evening she stops an earthquake from hitting the city, prevents an ancient sea monster for awakening, and averts a meteor from hitting the Earth.
They also find the puppy's owner.
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>>154284020

Wait, she teamed with Waver? That was not in Zero, either the Anime or the LN.
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>>154284076
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU5yrcY36XA
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>>154284158
I forgot the art for it.
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>>154284191
I've got a question about Taiga. it's mentioned that she speaks English fluently, is it ever explain why she learned that? Was it to benefit her Yakuza family?
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>>154272141
Confirmed for not reading the lore.
Whether she lay with Poseidon of her own will or not, it was still Athena being an autistic purityfag who turned Medusa into a monster.
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>>154284327
That's what that drama CD ends with. Taiga is telling Saber why she learned English and it was because Waver "couldn't speak Japanese" so Alex had to translate between the two. Even though he wipes her memory of their meeting, some part of it stuck in her subconscious.
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>>154284493
I thought she tagged along with Waver because she could already speak some English and could translate for him.
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>>154283857
>Rin: "Hm... well. He was certainly strong. He has so many Noble Phantasms, so he's powerful, right? But I'm wondering how it really is. I felt that there was not much difference between him and Berserker."
>Shirou: "No, he himself is about as strong as Saber or Berserker, if not weaker.
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>>154284550
Nah, she tags along because Alex agrees to help look for the wine thief, not realizing at first that it's him.
And I don't think Taiga has much to do with the family busnes.
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>>154265516
Actually, Ishtar is the goddess of fertility, love, war, sex, and power. Who happens to have sacred prostitution going on at her temples.
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>>154284728
*business.
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>>154284740

I want Gudako to rape her.
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>>154279132
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>>154284784

That is fucking great.
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>>154284775
Gudako wouldn't touch her, unless she has good stats
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>>154284845

Gudako fucks all the pretty girls. Rapes them too if they're unwilling. She'll create the greatest lesbian harem in history by the time she's done.
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>>154284893
Gudako only cares about usefulness and rolling the gacha
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>>154265633
Luvia fucks rich Arab men though.
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>>154285047
Arabs are white so it's fine.
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>>154285047

She only fucks Rin.
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>>154270991
>>154270443
The way I saw it, since sperm is essentially the source of human life, it would have life energy thus giving mana to women who make use of mana.

This is why its so hard for magus women to get pregnant, they usually just absorb sperm as energy.
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>>154269722
The whole point of the franchise is that nothing is canon, not even the original VN.
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>>154285926
The rules F/GO established apply to the entire Type-Moon franchise, however. This is why Narita's Fate/ spin-off has been on indefinite hiatus since Nasu retconned it.
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>>154284784
Shinji is the true villain of Fate
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>>154283739

Rin gets weak in the knees from her little sister callling her onee-chan. It might just be she is into incest.
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>>154286048
Strange Fake is on hiatus? But the next volume has a release date on Amazon - in April.

Please explain what you mean by 'retconned' in this case, though. I'm not in the loop.
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>>154285047
Does that mean she'd fuck Gil?
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>>154286186
And she went wet for Saber, straight up admitted she was into girls when she had her finger's up Saber's cunt, and said that she thought Rider was very attractive and admitted to perving her boobs.

There's a word for all that.
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>>154265516
She's still herself.
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>>154268634

You didn't read the dictionary entries for both sisters did you? There is irony in which goddesses they get paired with. You even hear them say this in game all the time. The Tohsaka sisters are BOTH devils.

Its just Sakura is maternal at her core, while Rin is more domineering. So Parvati and Ishtar fit.

Parvati has many, many aspects, and her maternal love is also shown to have a flip side that she beats down niggas when they mess with her household, aka Kali and Durga.

Nasu has even said that Sakura has similarities to Hariti. Look her up. I'm a Sakurabro and I can say it somewhat fits as a possibilty for her.

Expect Nasu to go full crazy for Parvati.
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>>154286338
>Goes to tell EMIYA to fuck off for being happy
>Tsundere for Gil
Nah.
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How much longer do you think it will be before we get a full-fledged Heroic Spirit version of Rin? That disgusting pig from Capsule Servant doesn't count.
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>>154265516
The evil half is a slut and fused with the uesless Goddess Ishtar, who craves Gil dick even when she has Guda/ko.

Ereshkigal is the pure half of Rin that loves Guda/ko and won't kill them after sex like Ishtar would because Goddess of Love & War will always murder them.
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>>154286420
To be fair that's all the bad traits of Rin that made Ishtar 30% less of a craxy bitch. She's still a bitch, but less of one.

Easy to see why Enkidu tries to murder her over te Demon Pillars in Solomon.
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>>154286598

So did Ereshkigal inherit regular Rin's bisexuality?
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>>154286667
She's happy with anyone because she's never had lovers before. Ishtarin inherited her depraved parts of being bisexual.
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>>154286844

Ishtar inherited the 'fuck anything with a dick', while Eresh got 'I don't care if you have a dick or a vag, if I like you I'll fuck you'
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>>154286598

Ereshkigal fucking when
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She's got a good doujin too
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>>154286929
Not true. Throw enough money at her and Ishtarin will fuck anyone.

>>154286939
Same time we get Holmes and Agravain. Hopefully.
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>>154287066
Ishtar wouldn't touch any woman though. They do nothing for her sexually. She needs to be filled up by a dick. Any dick.
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>>154287112
When she's desperate enough she'll have no choice. Couldn't even keep her Bull of Heaven satisfied and he ran off.
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Ishtar NP Interlude fucking when.
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>>154286210
Not that guy, but Nasu/Sakurai established DAAs and Servants can't exist in the same timeline.
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>>154287781
But that would make Carnival Phantasm non-canon.
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>>154287781
What's the reasoning behind that?
And does that mean that the series is essentially canceled, or simply an alternate universe, or what? I was rather enjoying the novel ideas that Narita brought; it would be a shame to see the work go uncompleted.
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>>154287781
That's not a retcon. Dead Apostles still exist, just not organized hence no Dead Apostle Ancestors.
There are no DAA in SF.
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>>154287985
It refers to their powerlevel as well; Dead Apostles in worlds where Servants exist are incredibly weak because the human foundation value is higher, so the DAAs as a group of powerful Apostles never comes to exist. SF has Richard and Old Man fighting DAAs in their backstories and and a powerful Dead Apostle as one of the Masters.
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>>154270991
>>154271072
>>154273271
>>154285839
You all suck the reason HE couldn't give Saber mana was because the contract was fucked up so the only way for him to insert Mana into her was through his semen. Shirou has decent mana reserves and no being made into a shitty CG did not make him better.
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>>154265516
Because Nasu doesn't like purity and if its pure he enjoys corrupting it.
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>>154287963
Because Servants are pro history and DAAs are anti history.
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>>154288464
He can never corrupt the paragon of purity that is Gilgamesh.
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>>154288546
Who cares man, I think the reason this franchise still holds a flare in me is because of nostalgia. The moment FGO came out and he retconned half his own shit was the moment I gave as much of a fuck as he does when writing the world.
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>>154265516
Jin
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>>154288768
Hate shit like this. You go in thinking "Of I found something with a decent artstyle for once". Then two pages in it's faceless fatguys or some other terrible shit.
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>>154288964
you should have read the afterwords.

fatman is an actual Type in disguise.
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>>154288516
What does that mean?
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>>154265516

10/10 design. She went from mid-high tier to being the hottest Nasuverse girl by far.
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>>154289048
Conceptual Nasu bullshit.

Basically vampires are stronger when humanity is weaker, and vice versa. The idea of Dead Apostle Ancestors only exist in worlds where vampires are particularly strong, while Heroic Spirit summoning rituals only function in worlds where humanity is particularly strong.
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How much for a Rin FJ?
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>>154272304
There is pic related, thats about it
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>>154290191
Eternal servitude.
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>>154290322
I am fine with Rin serving me eternally for a FJ.
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>>154290322
Sign me up
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>>154290367
She'll serve you a massive ration of femdom
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>>154290191

Gems if you're an old man. Free if you're a hot girl.
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>>154290450
Ishtar has no need for gems, and she isn't into girls. The only currency she'll accept is Gil.
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>>154287112
Even the worms Sakura has?
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>>154290504
How much would this Gil get me?
I have a few other Gils I can exchange.
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>>154290579
I was talking about Final Fantasy money, fucking weeb.
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>>154290203
That's just the front cover of a collection of Naturalton's FGO foot fetish pics though, it's not Rin-centric, is it?
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>>154290538
Depends on the gender of the worms
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gingaer nip kid fucking high level mages and heroic spirits and you are here browsing a eating dorito, why?
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>>154265516
Is Ishtarin considered a virgin?
It's likely that Ishtar has at least some sexual experience even in the Nasuverse, but Rin's body still has an intact hymen waiting to be wrenched open by Shirou's wet weapon.
So, what is it?
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>>154290639
>it's not Rin-centric, is it?
nope
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>>154290860
She's a virgin that knows how to please men, just like Saber and Illya.
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>>154290860
Rin's virginity will always belong to Gilgamesh
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>>154290860
>waiting to be wrenched open by Gudao's wet weapon
FTFY.
As for your question, everyone seems to want to stay away from her so...maybe?
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>>154290860
>Rin
>virgin
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>>154290911
>His compatibility with large-spender Rin was the greatest, but that was the secret just between you and me.
POTTERY?
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>>154290955
In most timelines she is. Was it confirmed that Ishtarin is the Rin from UBW?
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>>154290631
> How you dare you assume the context of the fate franchise in a fate franchise thread.
That's a bold move Cotton, let's see if it pays off for him.
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>>154291027
She gives no fucks about EMIYA so probably not.
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>>154291094
Then she's either Rin before the prologue or Prisma Rin.
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>>154290911

What about her homo virginity?
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>>154279132
This, among other things, is why i thought UBW was terrible.

I'll rewatch UBW 2006 before before I ever rewatch UBW.

> VN is best

Not gonna read it lol
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>>154291164

>UBW 2006

I meant FSN 2006, DEEN.
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>>154291143
She lost it to Saber in Fate and UBW Good, and to Luvia in UBW True and HF.
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>>154290860
The people that summoned Isthar literally stole Rin's body from a parallel universe and used it to reach Ishtar. This Ishtar isn't exactly the original, but a mixed new personality born from Rin and Ishtar. The point is that the body is all Rin, and Rin is a virgin.

What makes me sad is that at some point in time, Tohsaka Rin completely vanished from existence just to be used as the host for the goddess Ishtar. That's pretty sad.
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>>154291345
>She has enough experience to be considered a Goddess of sex but she's a virgin because she got herself a new body
Guess Shirou getting a puppet body means he regained his virginity in HF True. And Gil being incarnated after Zero makes him a virgin too.
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>>154291532
mfw Touko can make Sakura pure again
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>>154286338
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>>154291532
>Zouken has gained and lost countless virginities in his numerous cycles of changing his body and raping his family members.
He's the purest and sluttiest character at the same time.
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>>154291712
>losers couple
fitting
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>>154291712
The doujins are canon meme has gone too far.
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>>154291767
>make Gil suffer couple
FTFY
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>>154291599
But she already is pure.
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>>154291532
>>154291599
>>154291755
Wouldn't that make all Servants, except Medb, virgins because their Servant body is new?
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>>154291345
>The people that summoned Isthar literally stole Rin's body from a parallel universe and used it to reach Ishtar.
What? How convoluted can this mess be?
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>>154291887
You need people related to the Holy Grail to use them and pseudo-servants. That's why you have El-Melloi II as the host for Zhuge Liang.

It's not random.
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>>154291887
How can you get far enough into this franchise to understand that statement, yet not know the answer to that question?
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>>154292003
Because I am mad. I thought Nasu had a better reason making Rin into Ishtar but its all shitty fanservice.
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>>154291138
Rin mentions developing a crush on Shirou's after that high jump scene before the events of FSN
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>>154291847
kek
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>>154291094
So now they retconned Rin to have never met Emiya so Gil can have his way with her?
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>>154292111
Of course it's fanservice. They could have always just use the old Ishtar design there is and give a design to Zhuge Liang, but no, they made them pseudo-servants just for fanservice and that's great.
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>>154292777
Gilgamesh hates Ishtar more than you can imagine.
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>>154292777
That's not it.

It's symbolic to Gil using his big dick to steal Rin away from Shirou.
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>>154292777
>replaced the shitty faker with the original
About damn time. What the fuck is Rin doing with all those Shirou incarnations and blonde cunts when she has the highest compatibility with the King of motherfucking heros?
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>>154265633
I want Luvia servant, I would roll every money for her.
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>>154272304
>>154290203
There is a doujin already, search in sadpanda, really. Feature Ishtar and her sister.

The cover is lewd I cannot post it now.
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>>154292942
There are no Goddesses of hyenas. At best she would get to be some Indian cow Goddess, assuming there's one.
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So why is Shirou a negro now?

Was there any explanation?
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>>154292657
>Wriggle, wriggle, wriggle.
Jesus fucking Christ Nasu
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>>154265516
Ishtar did nothing wrong.
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>>154293061

Would you be happier with something involving mollusks?
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>>154293093

>t. Sakura
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>>154291345
Wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey.

It's probably not even that big of a deal if Kuro joining you after the Prisma event is an indication.
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>>154293093
Didn't she kill Enkidu?
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>>154293135
As long as they aren't dick or pussy mollusks, yes.
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>>154293029
Do you know how charcoal works?
Shirou's burned himself out so much that he's basically become charcoal. He is, essentially, slowly losing all of his memories and personality and becoming just a weapon.

There's a bit where he's talking to you about how he can't remember anything, and feels like crying, but doesn't know why.
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>>154292903
Well she's a deity, and deities need to exploit some kind of loophole to become Servants in the first place. Except for Stheno, Euryale, and young Medusa, because they're shitters.

Even Quetzalcoatl technically got summoned through an avatar he had possessed in the past.
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>>154293220
So Mind of Steel is actually the true route then?
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>>154293223

Quetz's soul inhabits the tiger strap on Taiga's shinai. That's why the sword is so bloodthirsty. Calling it now, screencap this shit.
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>>154293179
Depends on the myth. In some versions Ishtar has nothing to do with Enkidu's death. The other gods were just being dicks.
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>>154293325
That would be funny bit Taiga is a different Mesoamerican deity. A relatively minor one.
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>>154292941
>highest
highest what?
You are talking of compatibility between Gil's cock and Rin's pussy?
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>>154293028

She'd be Freya. Think of it, a Scandinavian being the host for the Scandinavian Goddess.
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>>154292657
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>>154293315
No, that's not it.

The material has yet to be fully translated (as far as I know), but the primary line of logic was that Shirou was hunting some cult bitch and he had to murder a fuckton of people in order to get at her, which caused [something] to happen. So it's not super-related to the results of the 5th HGW.
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>>154293393
Luvia is not Scandinavian, she's a midget and has brown eyes. While the Tohsakas added some purity to their disgusting jap genealogy, the Edelfelts ruined theirs. They are worse than the Matou slav-jap scum.
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>>154293523

Finland is part of Scandinavia, and the fact that she's blonde argues that she's not ethnically finnish, but a Fennoswede. Are you claiming Sweden isn't Scandinavian?
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>>154293523
>>154293542
Nasu will retcon everything to make it happen, believe guys.
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>>154293439
>mfw Shirou mistakenly penetrated a dickworm's urethra.
Sakura's pussy still has room after recieving Shirou's engorged meat rod in the sex scenes Nasu/Takeuchi wrote.
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>>154293600
Did he shove his dick into her heart? Because that's where the only remaining worm is by the time they have sex.
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>>154293542
>Brown eyes
>5'2
>overweight
Her dad is a faceless fat jap and you know it.
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>>154293658
You're talking about HF. In that one he fucks her pussy and he says it has loads of room.
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>>154293327
Well its the case for this version, otherwise Gil wouldn't hate her so much.
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>>154293712
Actually, she just drinks his blood.
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>>154293774
Looks like you read the censored version. You missed a lot of character development bro.
Spoiler alert: in the true version, Shinji actually deserves to get killed.
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>>154293890
Protecting her virginity is a good reason to kill Shinji.
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>>154293658
Looks like Kirei missed a few sneaky ones.
Or maybe he had the decency to refrain from manipulating her pussy.
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>>154293967

That was before the Worms were removed right?
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>>154293967
>pot of meat
Doesn't sound like a worm.

>>154294000
Kotomine removes all worms but one in her heart on day 9, and then Dark Sakura removes it herself later.
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Guys, I can't keep my pet tsunderes from making out and telling each other that it's not like they're in love or anything. How do I keep them from trying to bang while I've got company over and stuff? Would a spritz bottle do?
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>>154294096
>Not joining in
What are you, gay?
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>>154294123
I'm a monogamous kind of girl.
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>>154294056
Pussies don't wriggle around randomly, Anon. You should try sticking your dick in one. When you do, you'll notice they can only squeeze your dick or queef on it.
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>>154294135
>Monogamous
>Posts Saber

We've actually seen those two fuck before.
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>>154294163
>what is the girl shifting their legs
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>>154294206
>wriggle: twist and turn with quick writhing movements.
When you find a girl that can do that with her pussy walls, call me. I don't mind sharing.
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>>154294298
Sakura Matou (worm-free).
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>>154294333
I can't fuck your headcanon characters, Anon.
I can't even fuck the canon Sakura that obviously still has worms in her pussy.
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>>154293939
>Protecting her virginity
What virginity?
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>>154294445
Her heart's virginity
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>>154294413
>the canon Sakura that obviously still has worms in her pussy.
So, pre-day 9 Sakura?
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>>154294445

Her anal virginity
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>>154294495
No, post day 9 Sakura. Pre day 9 Sakura has worms all over her body, not only her pussy and heart.
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>>154294589
Kotomine says they're gone from everywhere but her heart, and we know Kotomine doesn't lie.
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>>154294638
>and we know Kotomine doesn't lie
Hahahaha
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>>154294681
He's a man of God anon.
He actually never lies. He'll omit details yes, but he'll never give you information that is incorrect.
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>>154294830
this is a bad meme
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>>154291164
It's almost like you want people to know you're a faggot.
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>>154294881
Alright, give me an example of a time he knowingly gives out factually incorrect information.
Not merely portions of truth suited to meet his needs, but complete and total falsehood.
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>>154294976
>Does that mean Kotomine was one of the Masters in the last war, and that he retired because he refused to fight in spite of obtaining the Holy Grail…!?
>…Kotomine. You didn't fight?
>I did until halfway.
He fought till the very end and won the fucking war.
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>>154295155
That wasn't a lie. He stopped properly fighting in the war and was only interested in fighting Kiritsugu to see if there was someone like him. Once again, it's only a lie through omission.
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>>154296055
Yeah don't forget that he never told his assassins to attack anyone nor did he tell Gil to do anything.
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>>154296232
>tell Gil to do anything
You are wrong to imply that that would be possible
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>>154296055
>>154296232
Oh wait I got it now.
When Kirei said "until halfway", he meant "as a master". It was halfway when he actually lost assassin, not the one where he pretended to go after Tokiomi. Technically after that, he was just a priest/magus stalking one of the masters.
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>>154286186
Are you serious?
>>154286268
Rin sounds like some kinda huge pervert.

I thought Sakura was the pervert when people said she was getting turned on looking at Rin on the ground breathing ragged after getting tossed around by her.

The hell is up with these sisters?
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>>154292903
Anyone have Ishtar's quotes?
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>>154296602
Being sexually attracted to girls as well as boys isn't called perverted. It's called bisexual.

Sakura's far more of a pervert than Rin.
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>>154296676
So does this mean all those doujins with Shirou/Rin/Sakura are now canon? That's some hardcore debauchery right there, Tokiomi would be rolling in his grave seeing at what kinda deviants his daughters became
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>>154292777
Yeah its disgusting. You can see how much waifufaggots have degraded by accepting this mess, Type moonfags swallow anything Nasu shits out with pleasure. Have you seen the newest Emiya?
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>>154296651
http://fategrandorder.wikia.com/wiki/Sub:Ishtar/Dialogue
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>>154296722
Remove Shirou and you'd have it right since everything they've been listing off was girl on girl.

Shirou should go back to the kitchen.
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>>154296780
I think Shirou is absolutely needed for them to get even more freaky, there's no way, with all of their perversion, that they'd lewd each other, but I swear I remember Sakura being pretty hetero in the game. Even her other scene was an illusion compared to Rin in the shack.
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>>154296839
There's no denying Rin's the one who is really into girls.
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>>154296839
>I think Shirou is absolutely needed for them to get even more freaky.

Back to FFN with you foul demon. Take you're SINO harem xover fics and begone.
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>>154296866
then why is Sakura considered to be the more perverted of the two?
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>>154265516
Deity of -sacred- prostitutes, anon, also war and stars. There is exactly zero shame in being Ishtar.
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>This body has quite an affinity for me. When she's not even a maiden in service to the gods, that's quite an accomplishment. Well, of the people around that Holy Grail thing, I just chose the one with the most compatible nature, so I guess that goes without saying.

Wew, Rin's got the nature.
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>>154296932
You are right, Rin is even more perverted. Rin > Sakura in everything
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>>154296932
It's just a forced meme perpetuated by victim-blaming /pol/fags.
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>>154296932
Because people look at Sakura and assume Lust Worms = She's a slut.

Then they somehow declare Rin a pure maiden dispite the LN clearly showing her to be seriously thirsty all on her own. Still not sure i can work out the logic behind it desu.
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>>154288408
>he had decent mana reserves

then why did he make a contract with rin?
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>>154297051
Rin is the purest and the sluttiest. She beats Sakura in everything.
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>>154297120
>>154293220
jackass
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>>154297120
>literally Pucci with a gun
Have we gone too far?
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>>154297157
Because he just recently awakened his true circuits? RMs are not something just anyone can summon.
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>>154297161
She's the purest in that she hasn't had sex before the VN begins, but she's the sluttiest in that she
s got more options that most. She fan fall for Shirou, or go gay for Saber or Rider, or end up in a threesome with Shirou and Saber, or end up in a runaway-train relationship with Luvia. She doesn't have the single end that Sakura has of either happiness with Shirou or misery without.
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>>154297200
his projections were amalgamations of his RM since the beginning. control shouldn't have been a thing for him. he rebuilt his circuits repeatedly too.
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>>154297120
CRRRAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWLLLLLLLING IIINNNNNNNNNNNN MY SKIIINNNNNNNNNNN!!!

Seriously thats all i hear when i look at that. Hell he's almost as edgy as Kiritsugu "I cheated on my wife because she made me happy" Emiya.
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>>154297227
>Having options makes you a slut

Being a more desirable girl doesn't make you a slut. That logic would make Shirou a slut.
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>>154278553
shirou could parry Ea using highjump.
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>>154297304
>control shouldn't have been a thing for him. he rebuilt his circuits repeatedly too.
No he didn't he only made nerves his circuits in the beginning but then he awakened his true circuits.
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>>154297407
Not this meme again
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>>154297373
She shows interest in several characters and acts like a huge flirt in general. That's what being a slut is all about.
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>>154297497
>Gilgamesh saw in awe the amazing leap the teenage boy took through his vortex aerating reality
>"i-it can't be...."

>"building up your strength makes you stronger."

>the demigod is slashed in two and the world is saved

--UBW end--

imagine
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>>154297539
>Flirty character who doesn't open her legs to just anyone but the greatest people in history
>Girl who has taken a million dick worms isn't
Are you serious?
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>>154297640
>girl who sees no issue with flirting with others while she has a boyfriend
>rape victim
Only one of these is a slut.
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Does anyone here have a link to the F/SN VN? Preferably the one with the H-Scenes in it.
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>>154297640
Its only slutty if you want the ridiculous amounts of sex.

I'm pretty sure sakura would have preferred to avoid a dickworming man.
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>>154297690
>>154297712
>She is a victim so she didn't enjoy it
Right, thats why she never said no to Shinji even though she easily could?
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>>154297690
>girl who sees no issue with raping her sister while she has a boyfriend
>virgin who doesn't even know how an erect dick is supposed to look
Only one of these is a slut.
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>>154265516
That's really strange. I thought that the next season is ongoing, but I can't find it on mal.
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>>154297782
She pitied him for being so pathetic, and chances are Zouken wouldn't let her say no.

>>154297795
Yeah. Rin.
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>>154297837
>secondary learns Sakura is an incestuous cheating whore
>n-no! Rin is the slut because I say so!
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>>154297837
>She pitied him for being so pathetic
So because she pitied him she opens her legs, wouldn't that be a top tier slut?

>and chances are Zouken wouldn't let her say no.
Never even mentioned in the VN.
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>>154297890
This is an new and fascinating angle to the eternal Tohsaka debate.

Technically Sakura cucked Shirou by raping her own sister right in front of him, which would make her the most unfaithful of the heroines, and the one with the most depraved fetish (worm sex doesn't count because it was rape, even if she enjoyed it).
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>>154297976
>(worm sex doesn't count because it was rape, even if she enjoyed it)
She still fucked Shinji and enjoyed it. She was about to give in to his dick at the end of HF but the shadow stopped her from being a slut.
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>>154297890
The only "rape" Sakura inflicts on Rin is sending her to a shadow dimension to let her go through the same things as her. That's revenge, not incest. The scene where Sakura thinks Rin looks kind of erotic for a moment is just her capturing her with her mud, not sex. You'd know that if you had read the VN.

>>154297928
>she opens her legs
No, he raped her.
>Never even mentioned in the VN.
Zouken certainly didn't have any issues with it.
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>>154298032
>That's revenge, not incest
Those are not mutually exclusive, moron. It's revenge, by incest.
She's using her magic to fuck her sister against her will, therefore it's incestuous rape.
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>>154298032
>Zouken certainly didn't have any issues with it.
Why the fuck would he?

>No, he raped her.
Because you say so? She never said no, only time that it would count as rape would be in HF where she ended up killing him for it.
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>>154298150
She's not fucking her sister, she's sending her to an alternate dimension where Rin goes through what Sakura did. Read the VN.
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>>154298018
>the shadow stopped her from being a slut.
>mfw the fucking shadow is purer than wormwhore
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>>154298167
>t. Shinji
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>>154298181
>All evils of the world purer than Sakura

Priceless
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>>154288715
FGO retcons very little that is revealed in FSN, or even Tsukihime.

Like I guess Gil isn't strongest servant anymore, or that there are other ways to summon servants (but we had hints of that since FSN anyway).
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>>154297782
Yeah that's a good point but in anime compare the amount of times a girls has said no and stopped the attacker or even tried to do anything at all and the amount of times they suddenly lost the ability to move and accepted it.
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>>154265516
>Why?
Because using a unique character would not create as many sales due to dilution. But by re-using Rin, many of the existing Rin fans will buy the Ishtar merchandise just to have a complete collection.

It also helps continue the sales of Rin licenses which is independent of merchandise sales. If it was a unique char, it wouldn't be strong enough to sell licenses on its own. And it wouldn't serve the purpose of supporting Rin licensing.
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>>154298018
>>154298181
>>154298225
>samefagging this hard
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>>154298178
>she's sending her to an alternate dimension where Rin goes through what Sakura did
And Sakura was raped through all her childhood, therefore Rin is being raped inside the pocket dimension. How dense can you be?
Sakura even gets pleasure from raping Rin
>Fufu, I might lose myself since it's so good
Sakura is beyond the concept of "slut", she's the polar opposite of Taiga's absolute purity.
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>>154298263
Those girls at least say no. Sakura is kind of stupid too because she let herself be abused by him even though she could easily beat his ass. Zouken is one thing but Shinji is another. Sakura is a Magus and Shinji is from a dead magus line.
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>>154298322
Seriously?
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>>154298322
You suck
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>>154298323
>Rin is being raped inside the pocket dimension.
Not by Sakura, but by the Shinji/Zouken of the pocket dimension.
>>Fufu, I might lose myself since it's so good
The very next sentence makes it obvious she's talking about Rin as a meal.
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>>154298327
Fair enough lad.
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>>154297551
But Shirou always fails highjump.
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>>154298389
>by the Shinji/Zouken of the pocket dimension
Who you just made up and were never mentioned.
Imaginary Numbers was never established to be able to create alternate realities or illusions, just pocket dimensions to store shit in.
>The very next sentence makes it obvious she's talking about Rin as a meal
In a metaphorical way. She didn't actually eat her, or that would be rape and fucking vore on top of it. How depraved do you want her to be?
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>>154298542

Highjump wins all the maiden's hearts.
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>>154297551
>>Gilgamesh saw in awe the amazing leap the teenage boy took through his vortex aerating reality
>>"i-it can't be...."
This part is amazing
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>>154298559
what layer of shitposting are you on? do you not know how her mud works? jesus christ. next you're gonna say she raped gilgamesh because his will was too strong to absorb conventionally, ruining his purity.
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>>154298559
>Who you just made up and were never mentioned.
Sakura says she made Rin go through the same things as her. That's what it would mean.
>She didn't actually eat her
Did you forget what the shadow does? As Shirou himself notes, by the way, she's so far gone by that point that she's more Angra Mainyu than Sakura.
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>>154298631
>do you not know how her mud works?
You don't, he is right it doesn't make copies of people. Best it can do is rape Rin by tentacle.
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Shinji...I don't get why he gets all the hate on /jp/. FSN is just written to make him out as the bad guy, when really he's no worse than any of the 'protagonists' and a better person than most of them.

What are the main complaints? He raped Sakura and stole Rider to use in the war?

Okay, let's get this straight. He never fucking raped Sakura. He never did it. He never did it. He never did it. He never did it. He fucked Sakura.

Let me ask you this. WHO IN THE GAME DIDN'T FUCK SAKURA? You can't even name one fucking character who hasn't plugged her loose cunt! She is the kind of bitch who will act like she doesn't want it when she really does. She'll say No! while having multiple orgasms. Shinji knew this, he's a fucking ladies man. He knows what filthy whores like Sakura want.

And there's this other big bitch you guys have with him. He supposedly stole Rider and used her in the war for his own greed.

Objection! He was worried about his one and only precious sister. Is keeping your loved ones from a brutal war so wrong? When Shirou does the same thing to Saber it's like 'oh he's so manly', but when Shinji does it it's wrong? He just wanted to protect Sakura. He probably was going to use his Holy Grail wish to tighten her cunt back up or cure her syphilis or something.

The story was written to make that faggot Shirou look good. Objectively, Shinji is a far better character than Shirou. At least he has the balls to take action decisively instead of dicking around like Shirou, and if he weren't stuck with the weak ass servant Rider and no plothax he probably would have won the war.
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>>154298866

Old copypasta is old.
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>>154298603
Ahahaha, losers.

All that effort only for Sakura to take the place as wife.
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>>154298967
Rin and Luvia will win each other instead.
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Is it even possible to have a Fate thread on /a/ anymore without Rinfags and Sakurafags ruining it?

They fucking hate each other more than Aoko and Touko do.
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>>154298967
?
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>>154299243
I don't hate Sakura but she is a slut, same with Rin she is a virgin and a slut. The waifufags are the problem.
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>>154288964
Fat old men are the best type of men desu.
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>>154266054
DEEDS
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>>154297551
?
I don't remember that part in the visual novel
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>>154300866
WITH
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>>154300866
Done
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>>154301784
at an affordable price
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>>154298603
What chapter of 2wei is that from?
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>>154299044
I want Luvimesh/Giluvia to be a thing.
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>>154265516
OLD
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>lets take one of our most popular female characters
>whose smart, modest, and somewhat bashful
>and transform her into the Mesopotamian goddess of sex
>Ishtar Rin

BRAVO TYPE/MOON
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>>154306510
Close, but not quite.
> Lets take natural talented slut
> And combine her with a Mesopotamian slut diety with a comparably haughty and possessive personality.
Once more, but without the ironic detachment.
Good Work Type/Moon.
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Which one would you fuck?
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>>154284893
>Gudako fucks all the pretty girls.
That's just an ooc gag meme comic. She's fucking guys in White Day. Already fucked Dantes and she's going to do David, Arjuna, Gawain, Arjuna and others.

Like how Riyo forces Olga when nobody gave a ratass about her. Both Gudas forgot she existed after she died while they still cry over Roman.
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>>154286598
>Ereshkigal is the pure half of Rin
She fused with Rin's niece (who features in Extra), not the same Rin at all. Stop this meme.
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>>154297120
He's not so bad without the lips. It's even a broken version of his Zero Model armor.
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>>154265516
nasuverse =/= myth

king athur wasn't a girl and gilgamesh is not white
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>>154307197
it's not extra Rin you stupid shit of EOP, both Isthar and Eresh use Rin body
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>>154279132
because in FATe Kirei did all the work, in UBW he died so Gilgamash needed do the work this time even than he still wanted her see the talk after Answer
>>154284645
NP =/= swordfighting, the VN even stated that he sux at swordfighting.
>>154307197
>Ishtar & Ereshkigal - their liveliness made the scenario longer. Ishtar is the only one able to operate freely as a Servant above ground, Ereshkigal is just a spirit. Outside of the underworld she needs to use Ishtar's body to move about. Though for the nightly talks, even if Ereshkigal weren't there, Ishtar would've engaged in similar conversation. Ishtar is the refreshing part of Rin with a sense of responsibility, Ereshkigal is the high achieving part of Rin which takes love seriously.

from nasus Blog, the story explained it better
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Where is Luvia from? Norway?
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>>154308523
The state of Ohohojousama.
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>>154308618
It's not gay, that's just a bromance kiss.
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>>154306510
Type Moon is just getting better and better!
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>>154297120
Eyes go from Hazel to Gray to Hazel again? Seriously what is going on with his magic, half the time it mutates him into someone completely new. Is this the power of UBW?
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>>154309092
It's not gay if it is with your bro.
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>>154308618
PUREST LOVE
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>love, war, sex, and power.
Is there a better combo?
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>>154309700
Medea+Souichirou
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>>154309700
> love war sex and Power

Feel like have heard that somewhere before. Like a song or something, was it a band name?
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>>154272266
that's Luvia
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>>154307262
>Unlimited lost works
Wut?
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>>154309977
TL note; Unlimited lost works means この体は、きっと喪失感で出来ていた.
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>>154294135
Sauce?
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>>154269990
>start going through VN wondering when tohsakha becomes a slut
>Get here just now
REEE someone please get her off of my wife saber
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>>154310319
Rin can't help liking all genders
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>>154309977
He has no memories.
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>>154310413
Thats some chuuni as shit. If he had no memories why does he remember the Unlimited ___ works?
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>>154310544
He confronted a woman whose pursuit broke him (very implied to be Kiara who has the ability to soulfuck people).
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>>154311034
I thought Kiara disliked Tsundere men.
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>>154270443
Because It's the grail which supply servants. (Just making berserker moving without grail hurt ilya). But they need an anchor (the mana sent by the magus). The greater the mana they send, the greater the grail fill them.
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>>154311122
Kiara loves everyone.
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>>154311129
Is Kiara one of Nasu's weirdo sexual characters that make no sense like Caren?
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>>154311231
Play Extra CCC Yes.
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>>154311231
>Rani :: Yes. Our theory is that she is an internationally wanted digital criminal. She is a former leader of a certain virtual religious cult. That cult no longer exists, but... It, well…all of them, men and women, adored her so much they killed themselves. People who fell deeply in love, people who were addicted to maltreating her, people who were dependent on conversation with her, people who hated her to death, people who lost themselves in carnality…all kinds of things.

>Rani :: All with the same result. Suicide. Even offline, people who got involved with her would almost invariably commit suicide.

>Rin :: And among those, even virtual police investigators and intelligence operatives from the Western European Plutocracy got taken in. What’s really incredible is that it seems that intelligence operative died in order to save her from her adherents who were going to kill her. …according to the records, it looks like the operative was her lover.

>Leo :: According to Julius, that individual was antisocial, and not the type to pursue women.
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>>154311231
>Rani :: …Kiara Sesshouin’s mental structure is impossible for me to understand. She is far too incomprehensible. She saved many people. But those people trampled her good intentions underfoot. She was betrayed by human beings countless times. Yet still, she never abandoned her resolve to give them salvation. Or no, it would be more correct to say…she just didn’t mind being betrayed. It sounds good, to have fortitude of spirit, but in her case it’s been taken too far. It may be odd coming from me, but…that really is nothing other than being a machine without emotion.

>Rin :: Right. It’s almost like being obsessed with superheroes? I’ve even heard her called “the last prophet.” It’s clear that she was the one suffering the most. But, it’s also the fact of the situation that she was the cause of mass suicide and hostilities. Consequently, with the sponsorship of the Western European Plutocracy, she became wanted worldwide. There are people who defended her, but…the Plutocracy had the backing of the Holy Church. Those guys hadn’t managed to turn out a single prophet in all these years, after all. I’d guess that they couldn’t overlook being passed over while some woman in the Orient showed up and got treated like a prophet.

>Leo :: That would be Miss Tohsaka’s personal prejudice. After all, the Church also acknowledges Kiara Sesshouin as a modern prophet. The problem is that the one who issued that opinion was a certain Cardinal…one of the candidates for the next Pope, you see. The Holy Church didn’t decide to apprehend Kiara because she was an eyesore. They acknowledged her as the greatest enemy to the preservation of their own faith.
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>>154298559
>Imaginary Numbers was never established to be able to create alternate realities or illusions, just pocket dimensions to store shit in.

Well, there are parts of HF where it shows she was able to make exact copies of herself (she says that she had made ones to meet Shirou at the entrance if he had run away in Femme Fatale). All the bad ends where Shirou is taken in by the Shadow are where he walks in darkness for hours never getting anywhere. Its literally another dimension where anything can happen.

Look up the word Mandala, and see why Sakura is being hooked to Parvati. Dark Sakura's move and a scene in the virtual novel is called "Layer of the Cursed Womb, Mandala". None of this seems to be coincidence. Its not a fluke Nasu always says she has the powers of a final boss, he just happens to not let her use most of them. Imaginary Numbers is pretty broke, because it has origins in the birth of all things.

I wouldn't be surprised if Nasu made her origin "Birth" or "Mother Earth" or something trippy like that.
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>>154272141
>She's a dick sucking gorgon you crazy bastard.
And...fixed.
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>>154306704

Did you not see Super Dere Rin scene in Hollow? The regular Rin thought she was talking to Sakura because of the unashamed way of speaking about love she used.

The Tohsaka Sisters are just full of love, that is all their is to it. Both sides of fans, both for Sakura and Rin, need to just accept Nasu meant for both of them to be paralles of each other. Neither is a slut, they are just love.

I thought everyone knew this.
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>>154286186
I refuse to believe this. I played that whole damn novel and never once saw Rin act like this with Sakura.
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>>154313369

Not that anon, but I think happens either in the middle of HF or in Hollow Ataraxia.
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>>154313369
Did you make sure to do every event? I can't remember if you only need to do story events only or if you have to do every side story as well but it's a super secret event that only appears after doing all the others.
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>>154313369

Well there was also the fact she gets mad at Shirou for Sakura making meals for him in the Fate route, and this is Rin knowing how kind Shirou is.

Then you have another scene in Hollow where she gets mad at Shirou for imagining Sakura in a maid outfit, when she is beaming at imagining Shirou and Rider.

The signs are numerous if you pay attention. But hey, it might just be overprotectiveness.
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>>154313705

>Shirou and Rider

Meant Saber and Rider.
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>>154307559

It's more complicated than that. The Throne of Heroes exists outside of time and space, similar to the Akashic Records. It contains heroes from all possible universes and timelines. And the multiverse is infinite (or close enough to not matter).

This is why the hero you summon tends to resemble you. There are nigh-infinite copies of every possible hero, so the Grail simply selects one similar to the summoner.

Theoretically, you could have a war between 7 versions of the same hero if they are a fit for each different class.
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>>154298967
they still have punished oniichan
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>>154313705
Even in the prologue, there's mentions of Rin watching the Archery club from afar (which continues/starts after Shirou leaves, so we know he isn't the motivation), and Rin's "she'd be sad if Shirou dies" when she decides to rebuild his heart.

Even UBW gives us Rin watching the Matou household and then asking Shirou how he thinks an adopted child would feel.

Rin's not exactly subtle about wanting to be closer to Sakura, but rules of the adoption prohibits her forma ctually doign anyhting.
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>>154314052

Didn't that Shirou really like Sakura too? Wasn't that subtle with him holding her scarf like a treasure when she was killed.

Hiroyama's assistant even made a Kiritsugu/Iri parody of Sakura/Shirou, where ghost Sakura holds Shirou from behind in an embrace and has a good quote from FSN of hers. Its shipped on the down low.
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>>154313705
Though on a reread of the scene, Shirou expects Rin to get mad, but she's to busy deciding that Sakura's to nver find out about the maid uniform since she might just happily dress up for Shirou.

And then implies she's possibly up for it in th future herself anyway.
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I still don't get the mind of steel ending. Sakura's dead in that route,Kotomine's all smiles and everyone keeps saying that because of Sakura's death Rin is going to go insane.

Through, if they do the true ending of heaven's feel, I hope we see that little plan Rin had be put in action just to meet Lluvia again.
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>>154314915
Sakura was a potential restraining bolt on AM, so her death means AM's birth is more likely, bringing him closer to his answer. At the same time, Rina nd SHirou suffer immensely due to it, so there's the pleasure of watching that as well. And then Rin goes insane for the same reasons as Shirou - she's sacrificed to much to be the ideal magus, that she can't back out at this point, and ideal magus would desire the Holy Grail to complete the ritual.
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>>154275505
Both, it was stated several times in the VN, in the Fate route he tried to go melee with Saber and was forced to go for Ea because he stated his armor wouldn't be able to take more blows from Saber

>>154278191
Almost sure this is due to limitations placed on him by by being of the archer class. Just like Heracles, in the legends Heracles uses the Hydra bow, a mace, the nemean lion's skin, super strong, adept at fighting techniques and stealthy.

A saber Heracles probably has a mace or sword, fighting techniques and the nemean skin for protection, an archer one the hydra bow, an assassin one his techniques, cunning and stealth aspects.

it's probably what happened to Gil, had GoB and the armor so his stats were nerfed, he probably lacked technique because IIRC the only thing that ever matched him was Enkidou
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English version never

/Extra CCC translation never never
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>>154315161
It hurts. After playing Extella and reading Foxtail, I need to know what happens in CCC. I pinned my hopes on the Extra anime but it looks like Last Encore will probably just animate the events leading up to Extella.
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>>154269990
>vn has sex scenes

i feel like i should've known
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>>154317768
How does it feel to be the epitome of a secondary?
Just knowing people like you exists makes me think that the normalfags haven't merely won, but are actively gassing anyone with more than a passing knowledge or interest in any given hobby.

That's the world we're going towards; a world where nobody is a specialist because everyone thinks they are one.
Fuck me sideways, by the time I'm dead anyone who's watched anything by DEEN or A-1 will think they're entitled to be considered an expert on east Asian ethnography.
I'm not expert on all things Type-Moon but fuck, at least I trying and comprehensively understand the things I enjoy.
If anyone out there still understands pic related, you're doing a good job.
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>>154318251
I've played the VNs and still don't get it.
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>>154291847
>>154293439
Dumb wormposters.
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>>154316736
you have to learn japanese
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>>154310377
>Rin in pantyhose
>But not in thigh highs
I am so conflicted about this.
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>>154312421
>It’s clear that she was the one suffering the most. But, it’s also the fact of the situation that she was the cause of mass suicide and hostilities. Consequently, with the sponsorship of the Western European Plutocracy, she became wanted worldwide.

Wait, did Nasu and Nisio trade ideas? Because this is sounding like the thing Nisio is having Hanekawa go through in the current novels. A girl who became a modern day saint.

I don't like this, I don't like this at all.
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>>154320986
Nah I think Hanekawa is more like Gaen.
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>>154312130
>>154312382
>>154312421
She seems like a stronger version of Caren. Nasu really has some weird fetishes in women.
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>>154290150
What happens to Zelretch then?
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>>154322169
Still exists, just presumably isn't as strong.

Though since he probably leans more on his True Magic than his vampire abilities regardless of the world line it probably doesn't do much.

Vampires still exist, even vampires that are DAAs in other worlds. They just aren't DAAs.
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>>154265516
To justify male Rin crossdressing to please old men.
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>>154322271
Then, I ask again: is there any actual announcement or declaration or anything that says SF is on hiatus? I've tried looking into it - in both languages - and all I've gotten is the word here.
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>>154322617
In order for it to go on hiatus, there needs to be some kind of set schedule in the first place. And there isn't.
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>>154322710
Might you know what the last actual release was, then? Since we don't even have raw scans of the manga (which I'd translate if we had, by-the-by).
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>>154265516
Because being a deity of sex is neither bad nor shameful.
Fuck Christianity and the last 2000 years of history.
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>>154322271
So it's just the concept of DAAs as powerful Dead Apostles serving as a ruling council that doesn't exist. There are vampires who are long lived and powerful, but not as powerful as they could be if it was a world without Heroic Spirits. Does this mean there are multiple Zelretch's across all universes and using the Second Magic to move from universe to universe is just a transference of consciousness, or is there a single Zelretch that exists in all timelines? God, fuck you Nasu. This shit was already confusing enough. Just write an encyclopedia already.
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>>154323002
>So it's just the concept of DAAs as powerful Dead Apostles serving as a ruling council that doesn't exist. There are vampires who are long lived and powerful, but not as powerful as they could be if it was a world without Heroic Spirits.
That's my understanding of it, yes.

>Does this mean there are multiple Zelretch's across all universes and using the Second Magic to move from universe to universe is just a transference of consciousness, or is there a single Zelretch that exists in all timelines?
That's been a question hanging over Zelretch's existence since he was first introduced.
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>>154315016

Nigger are you retarded? AM can only be born through Sakura. Killing her removes the grail vessel AM is manifesting through.
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>>154322595
What about young women?
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>>154265516
Because her body is too sexual.
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>>154320986
Kiara had an organized cult.

>>154321391
She's more like Shirou, but evil like Kotomine, with sex thrown in. She has some of Illya too (she was abandoned by her father). It's pretty obvious why Shirou was fucked if he crossed paths and why he became obsessed with her.
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>>154323075
Killing Sakura won't solve the problem of the great grail. Sakura's shadow was a symptom, not the cause.
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>>154321391
Nasu's "weird" fetishes are better than the vanilla shit he puts out.

>>154324183
Emiya Alter isn't canon.
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>>154324973
>Emiya Alter isn't canon.
Why do you say that? Is it because you just don't like him?
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>>154325009
inb4
>GO isn't canon!
>nothing is canon but the VN!
>lol u shitheads not even the VN is canon that's why nasu said don't think about it
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>>154325063
>true
>true
>true
Your point?
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>>154325009
Emiya becoming a Servant is bullshitty enough. An evil "anti-hero" Emiya has no chance of getting to the throne of heroes according to Nasu's own rules.
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>>154325103
>Your point?
Stopping a pointless argument from happening because its repetition serves no purpose. If you know these things, you don't talk about "canon". If you see someone claim that something is or isn't canon, you know why they have that belief, so they can be ignored without consequence.
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>>154325184
There are a ton of Servants in FGO that aren't Heroic Spirits. The terms are not 100% interchangable. We don't really know that much about Emiya Alter's history yet, so we can't even say for certain his existence as a Servant does or doesn't make sense.

One of the other new Servants in the newest FGO chapter is explicitly two of a weaker class of spirit fused together, something closer to urban legends than real legends.
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>>154324183
>She's more like Shirou, but evil like Kotomine, with sex thrown in. She has some of Illya too (she was abandoned by her father). It's pretty obvious why Shirou was fucked if he crossed paths and why he became obsessed with her.
Are you talking about Caren or Kiara?
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So I keep hearing that Nero is a mary sue and Extra has become The Nero Game The Neroing Featuring Nero from the Fate Extra series and everyone else matters jackshit and Tamamo in special gets BTFO by Nero because Nero da bes and Tamamo sucks because she's not Nero.

Is this true or am I being rused?
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>>154325421
It's exaggerated but Nero really has been wanked to rather obnoxious level.
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>>154293220
being a nigger sounds deep
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>>154325421
>>154325457
What did they give Nero?
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>>154314915
Rin will go crazy of grief from seeing her sister die like a dog while she just stood there and was unable to do anything despite what her true feelings were telling her. She went full Tokiomi despite it being her very nature but she has sunk far to low to try to climb out.

Shirou will go full Kiritsusu and we all know how Kiritsugu ended.

All this while Kotomine actually knows what's going behind the curtains, how everything could have been avoided but the worst case scenario for everyone happened and there's nothing left but total destruction but for one single survivor.

And then Kotomine will jump in while the "winner" finally breaks from all the despair and then Angry Manjew is born and the "winner" wishes for everything to be unfucked Angry Manjew will fuck everything 100 times over because Angry Manjew.

Why wouldn't Kotomine be all smiles?
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>>154322595

I-is that milf Rin and shota Shirou?

Is there more?
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>>154325831
Its female GO mc and male GO mc crossdressing during a party. Male mc get's fucked by an old man.
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>>154325969

Oh, its shit then.
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>>154325718
damn,son
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>>154290631

mythologically, Ishtar wanted Gilgamesh and he turned her down because doing her was a death flag
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>>154286216

to cuck IshtaRin, definitely.
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>>154326393
>doing her was a death flag

Why?
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>>154327207
Because she's a crazy obsessed possessive cunt.
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>>154284784
That makes sense
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>>154322595
>>154325831
>>154325969
Ma, I don't know who the artist of that picture is but I love his art.

I think he's the one doing all this gay-ass Rin x Luvia stuff too.

>>154285637

I don't know how he does it but his art is quite erotic somehow. Maybe it is the glossy look.
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>>154327313
>gay-ass Rin x Luvia stuff

You take that back.
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>>154296941
There are was no virgins in her time literally.
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>>154327382
It's quite certainly full of homosexual undertones. But, I am not complaining, in fact, I welcome it and desire for more. Imagining the hatesex between those two gets me going like crazy, I got a boner just from posting this.
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>>154327207

Gilgamesh mentioned a bunch of previous cases of men sleeping with her and ending up dead because of her in his rejection, but the only one we've found is the story of Tammuz.
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>>154327680
>ending up dead because of her

Elaborate.
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>>154327313
He's not. That artist draws BL usually.
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>>154327806

Well most of the incidences Gilgamesh cites are lost to history. Basically Ishtar was banished to the underworld and forced Tammuz to take her place when she needed to find someone to take her place.
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>>154325401
Kiara. She's even compared to an autistic machine and hero of justice. How she was betrayed by the people she wanted to save.
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>>154325103
>VN
>canon

Kek, only Fate route.

>>154325184
He's a Counter Guardian and he's far more useful than jobber Emiya. He did blow up a asteroid that was going to destroy the planet with Saber Alter taking care of the debris. hilariously, he's more heroic despite how his mind broke and he forgot shit.
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>>154327971

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammuz_(deity)#Dumuzid_and_Inanna
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>>154328147

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishtar#Ishtar_in_the_Epic_of_Gilgamesh
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>>154328053
But Caren is also an autistic machine that gives herself to please anyone. I think Nasu just recycled her into Kiara.
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>>154319292
But Rin fucks worms and more now
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>>154325678
Two routes (while Tamamo and Altera get one), with her having the "good" ending, which entails denying Tamamo her own version of her Master and reducing her to the rank of second wife and making her literally useless in the continuing war. Nero also briefly becomes an avatar of Venus and is instrumental in destroying the big bad evil mcguffin.

Did I mention all her retainers are fiercely loyal, whereas almost every single one of Tamamo's had betrayal in mind?

Nero is also portrayed as the "legitimate" conqueror and emperor, whereas Tamamo literally acts like a queen bitch, a status she calls "harlot mode"...

If there's a sequel, here's to hoping they balance that out.
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>Rin will always be sluttier than wormslut
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>>154331860
far too smug
pls nerf
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>>154327382
But it's the good kind of gay.
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>>154293439
>infested by worms since young
>tight
?????
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>>154334007
It's right there in the VN, secondary.
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>>154328314
Not to this level and you know it.
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>>154330680
>Nero
>loyal retainers
Gawain and EMIYA are only there for Hakuno. The rest doesn't care. Gawain was going to drop everything and go back serving Arturia when she showed up but she ordered him to serve Hakuno.
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>>154334109
Gilgamesh is where its at. Altera > Tamamo > Nero
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>>154334156
Altera existence brings down her side.
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>>154334007
So it goes
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>>154324481
>Killing Sakura won't solve the problem of the great grail
It solves it at least until the next war, though.
The servants souls are stored inside the vessel, without it you can't summon AM even if the Greater Grail still stands.
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>>154334007
>>154334032
More specifically, she squeezes very tightly.
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>>154335957
Nice try, but here's the real scene.
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>>154336149
>realta nua
Ah, worm-kun. There you are.
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>>154333274
But Tohsaka Rin pleases old men for money. Ohoho.
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So how does Tsukihime being directly related to Fate/stay night correlate with the fact about DAAs and servants?

Does that mean the DAAs in Tsukihime are weak as fuck?
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>>154338253
No, it means Nasu keeps his world very seperated. Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai characters are ridiculously strong and more rapy compared to Fate/Stay Night characters. There's a reason why everything is canon and non-canon in this universe.
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>>154338376
canon or non-canon, Tsukihime and Fate/stay night share the same timeline, you missed that important part.
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>>154288768
8 was the best by far
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>>154265633
TELL ME WHY
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>>154338253
Tsukihime doesn't exist alongside Fate.
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>>154338557

Is the Nasuverse based on the World of Darkness?
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>>154265516
If Tohsaka had as many dicks sticking out of her as she's had stuck in her, she'd look like a porcupine
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>>154285072
Persians are white. Arabs are not.
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>>154335733

Why would you prolong the cause and just add more bodies to the already steep pile by ignoring the cause and attacking a proxy is what that other guy is saying. Logic states you would go for the source, which is the ritual itself, because it solves both issues.
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>>154342718
The proxy is defending the source you fucking dumbass. Leaving the proxy to feed the source with human souls because you can't do much to it is also fucking stupid. From a machines perspective killing Sakura and saving 50 people is still better because it leaves you plenty of time to deal with the source as it can do nothing now. At least read the VN before commenting.
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>>154342927

You sound like the one that hasn't read the VN. Because the only time that the Greater Grail was ever "defended" was at the end of the route.

Essentially, the only reason they didn't have Archer bombard the Greater grail was because they weren't sure, and Rin herself said she was certain the Shadow was a malfunction of the grail the first time they met it, and was formulating the idea of using her father's old documents to find ways to counteract it, but foregoes that train of thought which would have saved a lot of trouble something you would know if you paid attention to the game.

Ilya literally struggles with maintaining her stance of proceeding with the ritual despite knowing the grail is cursed throughout the route, how did you not figure out that there was an alternative to killing Sakura? Or all the hints Ilya was dropping prior to things going to hell.

In essence, Sakura's death would be meaningless, and actually needlessly cruel. So what you would be doing is helping to bury the truth and essentially helping Kirei with his suffering boner. Why did you think Kirei bothered to conceal where it was and what was really inside Sakura for so long?

Literally the dilemma of the route was being kept in the dark about things. I bet you were the type to actually listen to Zouken and think that killing her was actually giving Sakura peace or something.
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>>154340963
>Tsukihime doesn't exist alongside Fate

What is this meme?
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>>154344059
Are you fucking kidding me? The shadow will protect itself because it wants to born and Zouken wants it to be born. Glad you ignored the ending part of the VN that explained why they couldn't just go to the grail and destroy it just to make your retarded point fit into your narrative. You wrote all that for literally no reason because it's all wrong.
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>>154340963
Wait for Berserker Arc
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>>154344428

Nothing of the sort was said in the route that they couldn't have gone to the cavern had they known about it, absolutely nothing.

The Shadow hadn't developed to the point that it would "protect" itself in that manner. We even have a scene where its explained that Sakura was effectively holding it back, which was why it was only manifesting when she was unconscious or using remote viewing which sent her consciousness outside her body. See the scene "Chess".

I don't know where you got that it would somehow protect the Greater Grail before the womb had even started manifesting. If that had been the case, when Kerry had put explsitives under Mount Enzo, he would have been attacked by something, but guess what, he wasn't.

Now admit that you don't know the story and are either trolling or want to desperately hold onto some headcanon to hold up why Sakura had to die.
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>>154344886
>The Shadow hadn't developed to the point that it would "protect" itself in that manner.
I stopped reading there. You have absolutely no fucking idea what the fuck you are talking about. Zouken was controlling the shadow. Go read the VN again you need it, and stop writing so much I am not reading half your fanfiction when its all wrong.
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>>154327876
go fuck yourself fujo
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>>154344954

Zouken "controlled" the Shadow by sending it to places where it could eat things and then hightailed it. He literally says that himself in the scene I mentioned when he was talking with Hassan about getting Sakura to fully become the Shadow.

Christ, I have never seen someone lack this amount of knowledge.

And lets say he does wait for them under Mount Enzo in the cavern, he can't make the Shadow manifest without Sakura being unconscious, which is the fucking point, and he himself has no control over what it does, he just directs its feeding and sets it loose. If the gang knows that Sakura is the projector, they can just keep or awakre or she can stay awkae herself. And if its a little further in the route, Ilya can give advice about it if they have a plan.

The entire route hinders on Sakura's mental state breaking down by gaining more souls as the Lesser Grail, Ilya keeping quiet and Zouken/Kotomine trolling, and becoming more attached to Angra Mainyu while the heroes know nothing. If you can find out the truth while things are relatively calm, then its GG. Zouken can't just make the Shadow appear and use it to defend against the Servants whenever he wants, which again, he says himself, if you bothered to read.

So now, you have no leg to stand on in the argument, does anyone else care to try to take this moron's place? Hopefully the rest of you aren't as silly as he is.
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>>154345500
>he can't make the Shadow manifest without Sakura being unconscious
Hahaha nope. Read the scene at the forest again, Sakura doesn't need to be unconscious and Zouken doesn't even need to be in the mountain since he is always inside Sakura, all their plans get leaked. Try again after you read the VN.
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>>154345615

This has to be bait.

Did you not read what i said before? She has to be either unconscious or her consciousness has to be outside her body, as when she sent her "eyes" to Rider to watch over Shirou when he went to the forest.

Those subtle touches are what everyone seems to miss in HF. I hope the anime actually clears this stuff up, obvious as it should be.

And I said it doesn't matter if Zouken knows the plan is leaked, he can do nothing about it unless he directly confronts the cast which would screw him over, and can't just make Sakura project the Shadow on command. Which again, he says himself. Did you forget the first time Rin and Shirou see the Shadow Zouken is scared shitless?
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>>154345843
>or her consciousness has to be outside her body
Not really the shadow was eating up Berserker before she started using Rider's eyes. Also how the fuck did you come up with Sakura sending her consciousness to Rider, that would make Rider be Sakura which she was not. Half the things you are telling me seem like fanfiction, Magus can look through the eyes of their servant they don't send consciousness.
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>>154346229

Its remote viewing, its the ability to see using another's eyes, she watches Shirou from Rider stalking him in the forest. But when she does so, her body is vacant, so its in a state of unconsciousness. I meant to say she was using Rider's vision in the same way Kirei can see things from Cu's vision and learned about Zabaniya.

You notice that it literally says she comes back to her body when the shock of Shirou's arm being burnt away hits her as she sees it from Rider's point of view. The scene literally says that.

Are you sure you paid attention? Because it sounds like you skimmed a lot. I've seen people say they know the VN front and back, but can't remember crucial facts.
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