Welcome to the NHK

>>154074508
desu i wouldnt even open the door for somone that i dont know or the delivery guy (who i know)

Genshiken > Welcome to the NHK

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>>154075050
what's your fav genshiken character (pic related)

>>154075266
Best girl is Saki, but Ogiue is a close second. Best guy Madarame. Favourite character I'm not sure between Saki and Madarame. Genshiken Second Season really dragged his arc out way longer than it needed.

>>154074508
How can you save me when the chemtrails have already gotten to me and you and everyone.

It's been years since I watched it
But doesn't MC get hooked to anime too quickly? First episode he's mad at the neighbor's for playing the same anime song repeatedly, third episode he's already trying to take underwear pictures of underage girls. Am I remembering it wrong?

Either wsy it was quite hilarious at times, might need to rewatch

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>>154074508
Others have come to save me, but all have failed. What makes you think you're so special?

>>154075392
In the LN his friend gives him some porn as "references" and he spends the next week or two completely filling his hard drive with cp. I'm not sure it has anything to do with anime.

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>>154075337
she likes madarame why this is happening
still disappointed after their confession i though ... fuck

>>154075050
Nah.

And they're not even remotely similar anyway, Welcome to NHK only uses Otaku Culture in some arcs due to it's influence on hikkis, and the escapism it provides to Satou and Yamazaki, but it's not the focus. Genshiken on the other hand is about celebrating and exploring Otaku culture.

>>154075563
Have you read Spotted Flower? You'll get your Madarame x Saki ship fulfilled in that manga.

>>154075618
yes yes i took a look
but what i don't like the gap how things worked that should be included in genshiken
but that was great to see naked saki in the official manga

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>>154074508
Sorry only tomoko can save me.

>>154075690
Some goy told me that NHK would be similiar to Tomoko, but it really wasn't. The style and tone is much different.
Also, NHK is a little more plot driven, but gets into a direction that is super predictable. It's just stale in comparision to Tomoko

>>154075677
Well it's an alternate "ending" so to say. In the Genshiken canon they didn't break up, it's only in the Spotted Flower version that this ship won. I'm not sure I want to see how Saki and Kohsaka broke up though, because I have a feeling it's just going to be awkward and not add anything to the story. But the latest chapter (Kohsaka coming to visit Saki after she gave birth) makes it seem like it's going to happen.

>>154074508
I am beyond saving. My brain has rewired itself to crave isolation. Being around people makes me anxious and irritated.

>>154074508
Let her in and then everyone except me gets saved because hikkis are doomed unless they starve, which was the moral of the show.

>>154075546
Well more like he gave in to degeneracy way too quickly, and then needed to be "saved"

>>154075717
you expected thorough bad end?

and thought watamote is even a little comparable ??

Read the manga and learn to absolutely hate Misaki. Fuck that cunt.

>>154075050
Isn't everyone a fag now or something? Best characters were the cosplay couple because they didn't give a fuck and just ended up having hot cosplay sex. I can't believe that boring series is even still going.

>>154075717
NHK can't really be compared to much else. I can only think of one or two manga that focus on the hikki/NEET thing and NHK is also the only one with an artstyle that I like.

>>154077328
The entire fucking plot is predictable cuz the characters are walking stereotypes.

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>>154075717
unlike welcome to nhk watamote shows if your life is hell right now. you can make it better if you try your hardest your life can turn around like tomoko did with her life.

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>>154075717
NHK is about broken people trying to fix themselves only to find out that the slippery slope is real and its way too late to change
Watamote is about an awkward girl still in her prime trying to fit in
Hell even genshiken is more like watamote than NHK

watamote will leave you feeling somewhat sad but happy rooting for tomoko, NHK is a really bitter reality check

>>154078066
In the manga/LN, I really didn't expect Satou's senpai or Yamazaki to do a lot of the things they did. Yamazaki becoming a gambling, sex monger and the senpai continuing her drug addiction and continuing to pursue an affair with Satou isn't stereotypical at all.

The whole "I'm pregnant now, bye!" in the anime compared to "I'm still high as fuck and want to fuck you" is pretty different. Read the manga at the least.

>>154074508

Why someone want to be a Hikikomori ?

>>154079380
Just lurk /r9k/ for a while. You'll understand it pretty well.

>>154074508
>>154074508
Welcome to the NHk hit way to close to home, it is one of the few anime I couldn't finish. Everything from being a drop out to sleeping on the floor between all the clutter, basically just falling asleep where you are sitting and sitting where you fall asleep. Panicking when someone is at the door, getting mad at my neighbors being loud but not wanting to leave my room to confront them. Right down to him not being an otaku, but more just using some entertainment media to stop himself from straight up staring at a wall for hours on end.

Ya, been there, done that, dragged myself out of that hole, not going to sit through something to remind me of that period of my life.

Of course the only difference is that I didn't have a kawaii girl turn up at my door to "save me".

>>154079635
Read the manga and get more bummed.

>>154079268
The manga is trash compared to the LN and Anime, it went in a completely different direction and shat on the main themes, complete with full on "happy end" for everyone.

>>154079821
>getting bummed by Satou landing a good job in the field he wanted, having a healthy relationship with Misaki and Yamazaki landing a 10/10 wife.

What the fuck, how can that make you bummed.

>>154079856
But the manga didn't have a happy end at all. Satou was still hikki, he just moved back with his parents and cut his hair. Misaki won because she got to keep him like that for as long as she wants.

>>154080051
Manga ending had him working as a a freelancer, Yamazaki even asks him for the scenario for their new game, there is nothing that implies that he's a hikki either, he just lives with his parents.

Everyone else is happy as fuck too.

>>154079909
Because it is a fantasy only made possible by what might as well be referred to as mrs mahou shoujo showing up and fixing shit. Real life Satous tend to remain exactly where he is at the start without outside influence, and usually there is no outside influence.

Christ I only managed to fix things because the council kicked me out for a couple of days so they could remove asbestos (building was decades old). I was forced to find accommodation elsewhere for that period, getting out of my hole got the ball rolling. I then applied for a job, started living somewhere else and re-enrolled for a study (one by one, not all at once, had I done everything at once I would have likely just ended up back where I was).
I am now doing pretty ok. I still am extremely socially anxious and overthink everything to the point where I am just frozen in place not doing one thing or another. I don't feel like these are things I will ever be able to fix, they have simply become part of who I am. I can't stop being those things any less than someone can be asked to stop being "them", or you being you. This is what the anime basically shows as well with its depiction of it only becoming fixable when you introduce a laughable scenario in which a girl makes it her missions to come save you.

>>154080166
Reminder that "freelance" is a euphemism for "unemployed". Literally anyone can claim they are freelancing at any time. Heck, I decided 5 seconds ago that I am a freelance photographer and there is nothing anyone can do or say to make that untrue. Thing is I still ain't earning shit through it.
Satou wasn't creating a living out of his "work", not by the end of the manga anyway.

>>154080361
Anon, I do understand how you can empathize with the story, I wasn't a hikki myself but being someone who usually went directly from college to my apartment (where I rented a room), and hearing the same laughs that Satou used to hear, I almost got to the point of breaking, so the story did affect me on a personal level too.

My post was about how can the manga make you feel more bummed than the anime or the LN, since it had a happier ending than both of them.

>>154080447
Pretty much this. Telling people I freelanced was my way of telling people I was being productive a few years ago. All I was doing was computer repair and clearing maybe $120 a month.

And Satou was a terrible writer. I'm sure Yamazaki's new game would have ended up as much of a flop as their hentai game. The ending is basically "the cycle continues". He still had empty promises between him and Misaki, didn't have a real job and was just making excuses like "see, I'm working now!" It's fair to say that everything would just happen again, his senpai would show up in his life high as balls again trying to fuck him, he wouldn't go through with it, Misaki would show up again to fuck with him and then Satou would run away again to jerk off and get drunk with Yamazaki.

>>154080447
>Satou wasn't creating a living out of his "work", not by the end of the manga anyway.
Does that matter though? It's still a happy ending if he stops being a hikki that doesn't want to work and is instead simply an unemployed person looking for a job, that's a complete improvement to his life.

And he is doing something with Yamazaki, as he asks him for his scenario.

How is the LN, worth a read If I've already finished both anime and manga? I really missed NHK and I can't seem to find anything resembles it, except the option reading LN.

>>154080570
Nice headcanon.

The manga was shown in a positive light, there is no reason to think there is a repeating cycle.

>>154080596
If you want to read the same story again but with no artwork then go for it. If you really want more hikki/depression tier manga and anime, there's a lot more out there. But you aren't going to find something to fill the void of NHK since it's pretty much just a series about how you're not alone in your hikki ways, but you're still fucked up.

>>154080653
>If you really want more hikki/depression tier manga and anime, there's a lot more out there
like what? (not known ones)

>>154080596
>missing NHK
You have either not gone through a life like it or are simply a self loathing sadist.

I honest to god do not know how anybody watched it could find the experience enjoyable. If you can not relate to sat ou the show would strike me as completely boring/mundane, if you can relate then it would surely have to hit home to the point of it becoming unenjoyable.

>>154080721
You don't enjoy the introspection and inspiration to make your life better?

When my life is being shit I always rewatch the show to remind me that I can do better, even if it's a small step at a time.

Also you don't have to be a hikki to empathize with it, there are plenty of different personal issues represented in NHK.

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>>154080602
Two pages from this he says he won't be a slave to the conspiracy anymore just because Misaki runs up to him. Satou might have stopped being a full on hikki, which he really stopped being all that shut in the moment he found Yamazaki next door, but he's useless. He hasn't really found anything to find determination in but himself, and "himself" isn't something worth putting determination into. He never has any kind of thing to keep him pushing on in life except for his own delusions.

The anime has him getting a real job because he's so starving he can't survive. In the manga this never happens and he still can't find the will to actually work. He could just work at a ramen shop for all his parents care but he continues to find any excuse to keep himself shut in his room.

>>154080697
Make a thread on >>>/wsr/ and I'll give you some. :^)

>>154074508
I became a neet years ago while I was in the middle of watching this, I sometimes wonder if it had some sort of subcouncious influence on me.

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>>154080721
Well said anon, I liked it alot but I won't through it again

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>>154075050

Reminder that the actual moral of the story was never trust women.

>>154080984
Probably. I rewatched the anime and read the manga again about 3 weekends ago and I've been in a funk ever since. While reading them I didn't feel much, but ever since I've just been a bit of a mess. I haven't even been thinking about it.

That's the story telling medium for you I guess.

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>>154080653
I'll give it a try then, thanks. I can''t really think of any manga/anime that its' story focus on hikki/depression stuff though, do you have suggestions?

>>154080721
>he doesn't enjoy witnessing satou's crushing depression and paranoia gets even worse and worse while his self-loathing goes deeper

It made me really uncomfortable in a lot of scenes, episode 13 or 16, or that chapter where Satou's mom enters his room while he jacks off the 2D porn while a tub of ice stuck in his nose and naked. Satou and Yamazaki is considerably reletable for me and that's why I love seeing them in a miserable position, it makes me feel like I'm not alone in this shitty ride and can have some sort of connection with someone when, even if it's nothing more than just a pipe dream.

>>154081053
I still kick myself every time he doesn't hook up with his senpai. I had a situation almost exactly like his with her and I'm still kicking myself.

>>154080839
>He hasn't really found anything to find determination in but himself, and "himself" isn't something worth putting determination into.
Isn't that something for him to decide though? He calls himself a brave soldier, and he decides for himself to improve his life and fall in love with Misaki, of his own free will, that's commendable. You don't need anything to find determination in, you have to do it yourself, that's a huge point in the story, that the first step to improve is actually wanting to do it yourself, not depending on some magical girl to fix your life.

>He never has any kind of thing to keep him pushing on in life except for his own delusions.
He has goals now though.

> In the manga this never happens and he still can't find the will to actually work. He could just work at a ramen shop for all his parents care but he continues to find any excuse to keep himself shut in his room.
In the manga he says at the end that he's looking for a job, and the ending is clearly presented as a happy one, with Satou having dear memories of his friends and living with his parents again, he's not even shown shut in his room, as he goes out of it right at the end when his mother calls him.

I think you're pushing your own negativity here, the ending was pretty uplifting.

>>154081091
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>>154081053
Moral of the story was a generation of new Japanese adults needed control of some sort. It's a universal message. Some people just can't handle the world alone. Yamazaki burns bridges to give him leverage so he knows there's no turning back. Hitomi needs her husband to make promises because she can't make things up herself. That's why his marriage proposal made her feel like life was worth it again. Even Satou after his mom calls, he says 'why aren't you more suspicious.' or something. It's like a kid breaking something because he wants to be spanked. He needs somebody to control him but at the same time wants to be his own person.

It's closer to Paranoia Agent rather than other NEET shows. PA takes apart kawaii culture and looks at why people need escapism. it's too bad its popularity has reduced the show to 'misaki pls sav me' and 'dude neets lmao'

>>154081356
That's all well and good but it doesn't change the fact Misaki was a shitty person.