Gohan

>Gohan cucked
>Easily KOed a guy with a full power body slam

???

>>153939196
(You)

he won the match, Daishinkan is an asshole for calling it a tie

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>I-it's just a warm up!
>T-that was totally SSJ2
>He's got his full potential already! He did fine! DONT CALL IT MYSTIC REEEEEEE
>He'll win for sure next time!

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>tie
Still counts, Jobhan strikes again

>>153939196
I was expecting him to job entirely and just give up so that he would feel the need to train, so I am pleasantly surprised.

>>153939196
>no Dragon Ball super in the title
retard

>>153939196
>>153939428
Why are you not even being subtle with your shitposting, kuso-san?

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A reminder our boy Teen Gohan is returning.

>>153939196
He did pretty good for a guy who was poisoned and blinded. Give him a break.

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>>153939368
So is Gohan the Bret Hart of Dragonball characters now?

>>153939438
abandon ship.

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>>153939368
>he won the match

>>153939196
I love how Tori keeps trolling gohan fags.

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>leave toppo to me dad

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>bring 10 fighters
>7 are shitters including gohan

>>153939438
fuck off generalshitter
go ctrl f somewhere else

>>153939461
>02/26/17(Sun)01:03:23 No.153939461
at least Yamcha can even die cool Gohan cant even lose cool

ACTUAL NEW THREAD

>>153939433

>>153939446
problem is, many other fighters are going to have quirks like that.

>>153939368
>(OP)
>(You)
:thinking:

so how long until Gohan is king OP again?

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they shouldent call it a fucking 12 universe tournament if all 12 arent gonna participate. Who writes this shit.

>>153939817
maybe just wait for further plot developments?

regardless stop bumping this thread and move here >>153939433

>>153939484
They have two Future Trunks now. Why not use them?

>>153939368
>>153939300
>>153939441
pathetic denial
eoz can't come soon enough

If theres no saitama cameo in the arc Im going to be disappointed.

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next time on filter ball super

>>153939772
>adding totally pointless averages

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>>153940425
are you complaining about toei adding the averages?

So Goku and Vegeta are about an 8
Beerus is a 10
Whis is a 15
and the average of universes 1, 12, 5 and 8 are 7 or over?

>>153940594
>toei
Leave the thread and come back when you find the point

>>153939772
is that a purple cat race where beerus is from on the clown team? horry shito

>>153939772
universe 6 is gonna have a fem broly?

>>153939196
why would he need to go super sayian? YOU FORGOT AKIRA

Remember in sayian saga when krillin asked if goku could teach him kaioken sometime? He said maybe. Why didn't Goku teach anyone? REEEEEEEE

>>153941020
>Remember in sayian saga when krillin asked if goku could teach him kaioken sometime?
Never happened

>>153940892
don't assume things about mr.akira troiyama

>>153941047
It did in english dub but I guess its all mistranslations

>>153940617

the averages don't mean strength

the averages show the quality of the NINGENS in those universes

>>153941099
>mistranslation
>dub invention
>only anime thing

One of these

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>Finish the episode
>"Oh boy, cue the gohanfags crying
>Go to catalog
>First row
You didn't disappoint.
For actual news, exempting four universes screams "We can't design forty more fighters, so here's an excuse those four universes are spared".

That's worse than anything Super supposedly ruined.

>>153941246
>For actual news, exempting four universes screams "We can't design forty more fighters, so here's an excuse those four universes are spared".
It's obviously so they have room for future arcs.
>U7 wins the tournament and Goku is objectively the strongest non-god fighter in any universe
doesn't leave a whole lot of room to grow.

>>153941246
>actually expecting Toriyama designing 120 new characters
(You)r fault, you're an idiot

>>153941246
>120 characters
yeah what the fuck were you expecting?

>>153939772
>Female Legendary Super Saiyan is likely Cabba's sister, add her to universe 6

>>153939196
he did okay, for a high school teacher. Cell Games Gohan or Mystic Gohan would have finished that fight in 10 seconds though.

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>>153941246
>Gohan gets his fighting spirit back like the EP name said, and beats his opponent but "draws" because Daishinkai is a faggot
>people still shitpost

I seriously don't even get these people but whatever

Super update on this image when

>>153940617
>>153941128
That twist was actually good. What it means supreme kai fault somewhat too. He should have been working to get more ningens created.

>>153939196
That match was great though. He didn't feel cucked at all.

>>153940136
>They have two Future Trunks now
No they don't. They have one that was transported into a special new future.

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>>153941448
you have been away for a long time and daikashin is not a faggot just cos he got his spirit back he should win?

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So Goku basically saved universe 7. If he didn't say anything Zeno was going to destroy them. Apologize.

>>153941622
I never bought the anti-gokufags/gohanfag propaganda

>>153941622
Unintended actions aren't worthy of praise. If freiza hadn't genoicided the sayains Goku would never have proceded to the point he is in now.
THANK FRIEZA FOR SAVING UNIVERSE 7

>>153941660
>>153941668
I wonder how many of bottom universes he would have killed though.

>>153941587
>daikashin is not a faggot just cos he got his spirit back he should win?
English isn't your first language, is it? It seems like you mixed up that whole post's message.

>>153939772
>universe 5 god of destruction
>arak
>alak
>a flip word for alcholic beverages
PINOY PRIDE WOOOOO

>get super dragonballs
>wish for a trillion ningens in your universe
>problem solved

>>153941750
All those with powerlevel avg under 7. There's too many universes anyway and why not keep the better developed ones. Those with truer powers and developments (wether via evolution, magic, technology or spiritual/martial prowess).

>>153941814
A trillion ningens won't raise the average, they would just increase the population of the set. Creating a couple billion krillens would do it.

>>153939196
The writers forgot he doesn't go super saiyan at max power anymore. This is medichlorians levels of bullshit.

>>153941767
did I?
it seems like he said >>153941448
>the episode title is misleading
and because of the quotation marks around draw
>he thinks it wasn't a draw and actually a win
explain pls

>>153941862
Wait its average power level or what? I was under the assumption that it was just based off population size and that would increase your average. So if your universe had million people that were all strong fighters you would still be fucked.

>>153941875
They aren't. This is a warm up set. It's an episode to show that he has trained and can sustain SSJ when not poisoned unlike ROF. The tourny proper will involve his proper power coming into play.
It's a, yes, this time he's back and he's getting a prominent role as a power player on the team. At least buu/piccilo tier (and given he wasn't going as hard as he can he's likely to be sitting between them and the big dogs (goku and vegetta)

>>153941668
As far as we know, Frieza genociding any species with a power level high enough to be a threat to him is the reason Universe 7's power level average is so low in the first place.

>>153941946
If you added new ningens with power to the universe, they'd add to the existing total, still.

The greater the existing amount, the greater the amount needed to raise the average.

>>153941951
It would be ironic if Buu winds up saving the Universe.

>>153941946
Population means nothing to average.
Lets say you have 10 people at pl1. That's an average of one.
If you have 20 people of pl1 that's still an average of 1.
You need to add a decent portion of people with HIGHER powerlevels to change the average. The thing is the more units (people) in the set (universe) the more (quantity) high powerlevels you would need to increase the average.

Zamasu must be rolling in his grave.

>>153941976
Quite possible but unlikely. It would damage their average but the fact is the other averages are significantly higher. Meaning that, on average, the other universes likely have loads of civs more powerful than frieza empire. Meaning that by the virtue of frieza being capable of dominating, U6 was never in the upper echelons in the first place, otherwise someone as weak as frieza would never have been capable of those actions.

>>153942095
>Zeno killing Gods based on the quality of their ningen
>ningen have more value to Zeno than Gods
Zamasu universe should have been allowed to exist so that it could bear witness to what is about to occur

>>153941311
There's also the fact that the numbers wouldn't have worked out with 12 universes. You'd end up with 3 people and someone needing to skip a fight. It'd have to be 8 or 16 to work out.

>>153941020
dub only, also the kaiohken is a very dangerous technique

>>153942219
Ningen are pretty good with techniques though, better than Goku is at creating them and mastering them. All sayains have that wasn't given to them by someone else is massive amounts of raw power and natural beam spam.

>>153941976
Nah Frieza was contained to North Galaxy. Going by the otherworld tournament of the dead looks like Universe 7 is just full of scrubs outside earth.

>>153942283
ningens need to develop their own techniques to protect their own universe

>>153942452
Sealing would have worked had things not gone retarded. Just give them kaioken, okay? They earned it.

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>>153942099
Look again. Universes with a power level averagr of 7 or above are exempt. Frieza had a max power level of 120,000,000. He wiped out the Saiyans for having an average power level of what, 2000? 3000? And it's apparent he and his ancestors had been doing that for a fucking while.

Let's put it this way. You have one hundred worlds. 99 of them have an average power level of 2. The other one has an average power level of 5000. All together, they have an average power level of 519.8. Remove the world with a power level of 5000 however, and suddenly the average power level is 2.

It's essentially what Frieza and his ancestors had been doing for thousands of years. They've been removing all the worlds with a high power level average which could possibly oppose them. Hell, look at Frieza's followers on Namek. It's mentioned even back then that they were outliers on their own worlds, which themselves had high average power levels, which Frieza destroyed, and that Frieza only spared them (Zarbon, Dodoria, the Ginyu force) in exchange for their loyalty. Look at how eager they are to turn against Frieza as soon as they realize someone might be able to stand up to him, though Vegeta is determined to just kill them all at that point still. Everyone fucking hated Frieza, they just didn't have the power to stand up to him. Well, except Ginyu, that guy was a cuck.

Hell, when Beerus wakes up, he mentions that he wants to take care of Frieza. Why? Probably because he's aware of what Frieza was doing and thought "Okay, this has gone on far enough". Maybe that's what maintaining the balance of the Universe was all about in the first place: God of Destruction removing weak and incompetent species, preventing people like Frieza from fucking things up, while the God of Creation creates new worlds to try and bring about some quality. But as Whis has repeatedly said throughout Super, Beerus is lazy. He hasn't been doing his job.

>>153942525
Why don't you look again. If the strongest have, in their natural state, around 7+ there are two possible conclusions.
a) it's probably a scale of how powerful they are relative to each other, rather than using the same metric that some random ningen used in U6
b) the natural state of the universe is quite low by proxy. Including all forms of life like animals and shit even with powerhouse races there's still fucking huge positive skew due to the sheer quantity of low level mortal life.

Reminder: Universe 7's average power rating is low because Supreme Kai didn't train any mortal races and Beerus prefers destroying strong races instead of weak ones

>>153942283
>All sayains have that wasn't given to them by someone else is massive amounts of raw power and natural beam spam
That's because Freeza and Zamasu were right.

Sayains are suhumans. Literally fucking savage monkeys good for only war.

Veggie also had that light ball artificial moon thing, but that was probably given to the sayains y freeza or his henchmen.

>>153942481
ningen are nothing but weaklings. they'd likely not survive kaioh ken

>>153939196
Nah, it was a good match.

It's also a good excuse because now he's gotten used to fighting again, you can assume he'll be evolving during the tournament until he surpasses his previous level.

Also he must have gotten a zenkai

>>153942324
And if they make Broly canon, then the entirety of South Galaxy was annihilated by the giant baby. And we don't know whether there are other Frieza wannabes elsewhere. What's clear though is that Beerus hasn't been doing his job, so if there are any, he hasn't stopped them.

>>153942525
What Beerus should have been doing but clearly didn't do:

>getting rid of Frieza and other assholes like him (Babidi comes to mind) who engage in genocide against high PL populations
>getting rid of cosmic horrors like Buu which go after Gods of Creation and essentially reduce the number of new worlds being created and thus the potential for the appearance of better worlds
>destroying shitty worlds

What he's been doing:

>sleeping
>blowing up worlds for serving him food he doesn't like
>watching anime

That's what Whis has been hinting at this whole time. Universe 7 has been mismanaged and it's at risk of being erased entirely because Zeno (read: the Grand Priest) thinks it sucks.

>>153942622
Actually, the scale used by Zeno/the GP seems to be the same as the one used by Frieza and his army. Remember, a farmer with a shotgun had a PL of 5.

A power level of 7 isn't that much higher than a power level of 3.86, which is what Universe 7 has. But eliminating the top worlds if that universe would certainly send the average down over time.

>>153942712
That's a lot of hot assumptions there mate.

>>153942700
Yeah basically they're all murder monkeys. Thing is humans have both magic and martial techniques. They should be honing that a lot more rather than trying to keep up with Saiyan power output. Shit like the sealing move is powerful as hell.
Chuck some kaiokens in there or even other unqiue abilities (as we've seen shit like that work out alright in U6) and they'd be plenty competative.

>>153942810
>Actually, the scale used by Zeno/the GP seems to be the same as the one used by Frieza and his army
Except it doesn't seem like that at all, especially if it only includes sapients and not animals. That the majority couldn't even break pl7 is ridiculous. It's either working on it's own metric, includes animals or powerful races are rare as fuck and naturally wipe each other out (ala freeza) and or need to be purged by the GoDs.

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>>153941622
Look at his face

>>153942911
That the majority couldn't break 7 is expected, if it includes all mortal life in a universe. Read the whole post, the roles of the GoD and GoC make sense in that context. They're caretakers, with the GoC trying to promote the appearance of high quality worlds, while the GoD acts both to remove hopelessly lame worlds and as a protector against threats like Frieza and Buu. The angel's role seems to be to act as some sort of support and oversight to the Gods, while reporting to Zeno/GP.

>>153942283
Goku is a ningen.

>>153939196
I didn´t expect any more than a tie.
It was still a very entertaining fight though, and hopefully Gohan has the guts to properly prepare for the tournament of power.

>>153939196
I never liked Gohan much, but I think he did pretty good, considering that he'd been a lazy ass faggot who hasn't even trained in forever
I think it was acceptable

Gohan has largely been gay as fuck outside of SSJ2, Mystic, and fucking Videl, but the motherfucker Izuna Dropped, I don't even give a fuck if he tied and got poisoned like a little bitch.

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>>153941343
They literally could have just made a bunch of randoms and then dismissed them after a 30 to 200 second montage of the universes fighting. Think of the 1000 person battle at the start of Revival of F

>>153942632
Reminder: Universe 7's average mortal rating is low because Frieza was too busy slaughtering half the Universe and Beerus authorized the destruction of Planet Vegeta.

>>153943138
Don't forget Buu destroying entire galaxies and killing Kais

>>153943022
Well if I recall correctly, and I may not, Zamasu's kai was talking about ningen as sapient/humaniod. That would take out the animals from the spectrum leaving us with intelligent races. If humans, a terribly weak species at its non-trained baseline are 5 something then the average would be considerably higher on a universal scale.
It might just be that ningen are the only mortals worth cultivating, not that they're the only ones counted, true.

Still though, with the way averages work all you would need is one super powered civ and you'd easily be breaking double digits.

Also, bit of an aside but when are humans going to start altering themselves again. The androids and cell went gangbusters. Sayain-spiritual/martial isn't the only route for becoming powerful. Technology-human and magic-namekian/bobbity have also shown some great returns. It's time to start stepping the operation up a little.

>>153943138
>Beerus authorized

You mean he didn't give a fuck, which is the whole point. Instead of doing his fucking job by removing genocidal megalomaniacs like Frieza and Babidi and destroying cosmic aberrations like Buu, he's been watching anime, sleeping, eating junk food and blowing up planets for serving him greasy food.

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>>153943187
Don't forget Goku murdering the Red Ribbon Army and all of their technological advancements.

>>153943228
RR tech could likely be replicated at anytime now with The Breifs family being as prodigious as they are. There just needs to be the demand and or marketing to start justifying production and roll out of such tech.

>>153943320
Yes, but the mortal rating isn't just power level rating, its all advancements among mortals. Which includes technological. Goku destroying all of that and the Briefs not doing anything basically just got rid of tons of potentialities.

Pretty much every MC and Villain in U7 is to blame for their state right now.

>>153943189
Even if you only include sapients, the average power level likely isn't that high. 5 is a farmer with a shotgun. That's way more powerful than most people already. And Earth isn't notably weak. The only other worlds we know of are Vegeta (the Saiyan world) and Namek (the, uh, namek world). If Earth is average, and outlier worlds are one in a million, removing the outliers will bring the average down quite a bit, but those outliers wouldn't bring it up that much. Hell, if most worlds don't have the technological know-how of Earth, then their PL is even lower.

Either way, it's clear from the short exchange between Shin and Beerus that they haven't been doing their jobs. The Kais should have been promoting the growth of worlds (probably what the Guardian is supposed to be fucking doing instead of just sitting on their lookout and jerking off) while Beerus should have been getting rid of disruptive bullshit.

If Angels are exempt from destruction, then where are the Angels of U13-18? There are no stasis pods anywhere.

>>153943365
>it isn't just power
Prooooove it.
>implying tech doesn't increase power in principle
Wew lad.

Besides if tech counted U7 would be fine due to a fucking time machine.

>>153943365
Actually, it's made clear that the shotgun is factored into the farmer's power level when Raditz scans him, so tech is counted in PL.

>>153943384
Earth doesn't seem to be the average.

>Namek
>Frieza
>Yadrat
>Vegeta

All planets where the average creature seems vastly superior to Earth. The average power level is likely around 300, 3000, or 30000.

>>153943394
They either got relocated to other universes or are staying somewhere until Zeno makes new universes

>>153943394
How do you know that? They could just be in a room we haven't seen before

>>153943438
Still seems weird they haven't been mentioned at all.
>>153943442
Because Zeno's world appears to be a big room/hallway?

>>153943394
1. We just haven't met them. As far as we know, Zeno's bodyguards were angels assigned to those Universes before.
2. Zeno was throwing a tantrum and just blew them up alongside their universes without thinking.

>>153943431
Well the kicker here is those are the average for space faring civs. I am with you on the average is clearly not standard pl or there's a math hitch that's lowering the avg like animals but thing is, there's no reason to go to primitive planets. Without going there narratively, we can make no assumption as to the true average. Earth is like basically the only one shown.

>>153943431
Vegeta and Namek were such massive outliers that the Gods were acutely aware of them and keeping a close eye on them. Yardrat is never visited in canon, only mentioned off-hand by Goku as where he learned the instant transmission. They could very well be as weak as Earthlings. As for Frieza, we never see his world. In fact, he always specifically mentions his family rather than his people. As far as we know, the first world Frieza's ancestor destroyed was his own before going on his conquest, making sure no one would oppose him.

>>153943545
Fair enough.
>>153943552
Also fair, though I'd argue Yadrat having the capability of Instant Transmission means they're fairly good. Or at least have a high level or understanding.

>>153943621
>>153943552
Yadrat having moves would equate to higer value, I would suggest. It's like namekians and magic, you can't do shit you don't have the power to do. While they might get their asses kicked in a fight their power/potential is higher than basic life, easily.
Again, Hit is pretty basic without his abilities

>>153943688
I agree. I mean IT is a weird thing as well. Originally it was something basically like Kai Kai, which its been dialed back due to that and Angels now, but its ultimately still basically the same thing on a lower scale.

>>153941875
He used the Ki leakage that SSJ provides to give him radar vision of where the furfag was.

I think we all forgot the important part here, which is that even in the Dragon Ball universe, furfags are the lowest lifeforms.

Ok guys, you are now a kai of U7 and have 1 year to prepare for the universal tournament. What do you do to theorycraft the strongest possible team of 10? Having buu eat the strongest fighters means you have less powerful guys remaining for your 9 remaining slots. Fusing goku and vegeta has the same issue. Personally id spend a wish on reviving cell and then send him to the hyperbolic time chamber with whis. Maybe ask the dragon to make mass senzu beans or wish someone immortal. What would you do?

>>153943910
Whis has his own hyperbolic time chamber.

>>153943954
Whis might train half assed since his neck isnt on the line as an angel

>>153943138
Why would Beerus be so naive about the other universes?

>>153944053
He's the one who trained Goku and Vegeta, not Beerus.

>>153943138
>>153943187
You guys are retarded. There are evil beings in every universe. As Beerus stated its Supreme Kai and his fault. After all Supreme kai handles creation of ningens.

>>153943910
It's easy
>Ressurect all the Villains and the Saiyans
>Have Buu absorb all of them
>Add Vegito, and Gogeta in the roster
>When their fight comes up have Goku and Vegeta fuse
>Force Gohan to train to his full Potiential
>Have Future Trunks join this tournament
There's no way this team is going to lose

>>153944141
Because he's a lazy fuck?
>>153944169
You mean the same Beerus the knowingly knew Frieza was dominating his Universe and destroying planets left and right, but because he was so lazy and wanted to sleep, he basically let Frieza do his job for him?

Frieza was almost certainly the next candidate for being U7's God of Destruction, because he actually wanted to do the job and relished in it, that is until Goku.

>>153944213
Some argue that fat buu can't absorb anymore.

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>>153943910
>potentially wiped out anyway
>revive cell and Freiza
>ask the Kais of the compass to offer up the best fighter they know as a wild card
>ask bulma to work on ningen fighting tech for a year
>find the dragon balls with Champa but let him use them (remember where they were)
>make a time ring
>grab another goku, vegetta, gohan, picollo, Cell, 17, 18, Buu, Tien and Frieza after years worth of training with Whis' perfect time chamber
>give present bulma past bulma's work in detail and ask her to continue it for a year
>train the new and old in pairs in the time chamber for a further year
>find superdragon balls
>ask dragon to fuse everyone with their coutnerparts (including myself)
>fuse Goku and Goku, fuse Vegetta and Vegetta and so on
>use magic, human, namekian or otherwise to pacify frieza and cell
>have fused cell and fused picillo namekian fuse
>equip all with Breifs RR tier tech
Leave the multiversal tournament to me

>>153944222
>lazy fuck
Yeah but there is literally a Beerus look a like in that other universe as one of fighters. I thought for sure Beerus/Champa race would be from that universe. If not what is their race?

>>153944213
>Revive Cell
>Put him in the Time Chamber for a year
>Have him train

Remember he has zenkai boosts, regeneration, and frieza's DNA. Remember how insanely powerful Frieza jumped in just a month training. Now imagine Cell in the Time Chamber as much as possible within a year.

He'd probably rival Zeno-chan beyond ya know the whole instantly erasing you thing at that point. I honestly doubt even the GoDs and Angels together could stop Cell at that point.

>>153944213
I wish Gohan would hurry up and get on Future Trunks level at least.

>Gohan's fight lasts two episodes!
>Gohan loses the match!
I'm glad the leaked 'spoilers' get it so wrong.

>>153944283
Can't go even further beyond just yet. This is exhibition, save some of that for the actual tournament.

>>153944260
Who knows what their race is considering they're split among two universes.

I assumed originally that every counterpart Universe had opposite Gods that were both related to each other and were just created by Zeno, which is wrong now. Unless its not and there have just been new candidates and replacements as time has went on.

Then again, who was the King of All before Zeno? The King's Calendar isn't the age of the Universe (assuming their Universes are the same age as ours).

>>153944283
No, Trunks took Gohan's ability for rageboost asspulls. Gohan will never be relevant again.

>>153944235
Then use the Dragonballs to give him the ability again
>>153944273
Having Buu absorb him is much better because Buu will absorb all of his power and abilities including regeneration which will basically make Buu unstoppable in the tournament

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>>153943431
>>153943384
>>153943189
>>153943022
>>153942911
You guys are judging too much of this on POWER LEVELS. They are just deciding which of the shitty universes to not erase on the premise of "At least you guys aren't weak pussies too".

Who the hell said universal quality is based on POWER? No one ranks how great countries are in real life by military power anyways but with HDI.

By that logic universe 7 should be shit.

>Angle
Doesn't do his job advising. Cares more about eating food.

>GoD
Doesn't do his job killing tyrants. Sleeps and eats all the time. Doesn't even know what's his real job. Doesn't know he dies if supreme kai dies.

>Kai's
Wiped out by Buu. Stupid tards who mircomanage their shit but don't fix major problems. Sends their king(supreme kai) with some pawns and rooks into the frontline while the queen sleeps behind the pawns.

>universe
Run by tyrants like Freeza with force. Intergalactic police a joke. Development heavily focused on evolutionary strengths and warfare techniques/technologies. Various sentient races already subdued or wiped out by Freeza. A dispotic dictator with nothing in mind but his own power. Basically, universe is literally Kongo tier. Earth literally no better with RR army dictatorship if not for a freak accident.

All peaceful races literally wiped out. Namekians for example don't fight or hurt other life. They only eat plants and drink water, but can fix entire worlds with their dragonballs. Put some Nakekians on a martian base for a year? They can wish it's habitable. What the fuck happened to this race? Wiped the fuck out with their planet. Fortunately, some survived thanks to Goku&Co.

TL;DR Universe 7 is trash from the top down. Democracy and order non-existent only despotic tyrany, people aren't happy, technology outside of warfare is shit (Bulma is literally the universe's leading scientist), good races gets wiped out, etc.

>>153944283
If he doesn't get Rose then I'm going to be disappointed. People want him Blue because "hurr good guy Saiyan" or White because "hurr Ultimate". No, Ultimate is thanks to Kai Ki, he'd be Rose just like Black.
>>153944350
>rageboost asspulls

Sounds like Monkeys in a nutshell.

>>153944235
Why wouldn't he? If anything, turning people into candy is more of an ability that you'd imagine was removed from him.

All Buu needs to do is separate parts of his body (which he logically still should be able to do) and use them to push others into his body with so that they can merge.

There's no reason for Fat Buu to not be able to do that.

>>153944375
No, lets be real.

Universe 7 is there only because Zeno rated him low on purpose to see Goku fight and because of Time Travel shenanigans.

Universe 10 is there thanks to F. Zeno and Zamasu.

The other Universes are there because they're irrelevant.

>>153944375
Military power is a subset of power, hence your clarification. Power can be cultural, economic or political.
Similarly in DB powerlevel caps what a magic user can make happen too. It isn't all about fighitng. Naturally something with a high level is of higher complexity and quality. Instant transmission woudl require an amount of power and so on. It doesn't have to be violent power but power is power is power.

>>153944352
Yes, but Buu plays around a lot and needs Hercule there to tell him what to do. Even Super Buu fucked around a lot and Kid Buu is too mindless to control.

Cell has the ability to become seemingly infinitely strong due to also being an Android. None of the Buus have that capability.

>>153944376
True. Trunks and Gohan are really just saiyans turned up a notch with their rageboost stuff.

>>153944244
Pretty fantastic plan to abuse the time rings. I wonder if fusing with yourself is additive or multiplicative in power since you wouldnt gain any new battle experience or techniques. Imagining a super cell equipped with rr tech is funny

>>153944375
>Bulma is literally the universe's leading scientist
More like multiverse, time travel is a big deal. Thing is though, she's died with slump and his reality warping devices and pseudo daughter.
U7 is fucking killer in scientific advancement and the power levels from it. All it needs to for earth to get space faring and spread that shit.

>>153944499
>Abuse the time rings

You are now aware that this Tournament will end with U7 getting deleted but Whis time ringing them to an alternate timeline where the tournament never happened.

>>153944467
>None of the Buus have that capability.
The Buus could absorb people which increase their strength without needing to train
Cell needs to train in order to reach that level >Even Super Buu fucked around a lot and Kid Buu is too mindless to control
All the DB villains fucked around Buu is nothing new

>>153944499
Cell is pretty tech as it is 2bh, just biotech rather than andriod. Depending on how Bulma decided to go there could either be more biotech or machinetech. RR-tier doesn't mean RR exactly so there's room to grow.
Pretty fantastic digits, m8

>>153942324
>Going by the otherworld tournament of the dead
Going by something that isn't canon?

>>153944543
>getting deleted
Future Trunks time was allowed to exist and basically under the radar until it started interactiing with the mainline and by extension Beerus. You'd be fine and none would be the wiser. Is Zeno doesn't notice Whis doesn't. Just don't let that little snitch in on the plan.

>>153943202
Beerus watches anime?

>>153944557
While true, Buu has limits. Stronger fighters won't always be as cocky as Gohan was and there are less places for him to hide pieces of himself inside that Tournament area, and he can only absorb so many people before something backfires on him.

I mean if we have a year to train before the Tournament, there is no reason to not just use Cell in that case. The dude would be unstoppable without having to resort to absorbing or anything. He'd just stand there laughing. Hell he might pull a Zamasu at that point and start merging with the Universe.

>>153944244
You forgot the last part.
>let buu absorb all of them

>>153944641
>putting freiza, cell and goku inside buu
That would be a bad idea. With all that competition added to his personality his tard handler would be hard pressed to stop him going rogue

Riddle me this. Why was Beerus and the Kais so shocked to find out they were second weakest when they have the GODTUBE?

>>153944674
Godtube basic package only covers your own universe. Besides Zenoielson doesn't release ratings so how would they know their shows were flopping

>>153944671
Don't worry we only need him for the tournament after that we could use the Dragonballs to defuse him

>>153944375
>GoD
Why should he kill tyrants? They blow up planets. They do his job for him. Morality doesn't seem to matter to Zeno, angels, or gods of destruction so its Beerus' job is to destroy planets, regardless of they have good people. He just has to destroy but Beerus doesn't do much destroying since he sleeps too much. So the average quality of his mortals has dropped. Quality over quantity.

>>153944671
That's the biggest issue with that. Cell at least has the tact to not be entirely a dick unlike Frieza or Buu. Buu is too wild. Frieza would at least be reigned in by Beerus even if Freiza surpassed him, but Cell, Cell loves tournaments and shows and extravagant stuff, he'd be all for it. Zeno would probably be in such awe that Cell would be their friend.
>>153944674
Because nobody in U7 does anything. Beerus wasn't even aware of how strong his brother's Universe was. That and its possible that Zeno is judging mortal level on something entirely different than what we're all thinking. He is a child after all. He might honestly just be judging them based on how much fun they are to play chess with.

Which could make sense considering most of U7 has been destroyed by Frieza and Beerus.

>>153944711
Nah fuck that. Just save him for as the pinch hitter. If the rest of the team doesn't steam roll the tourney just have him absorb their knocked out bodies THEN rather than one-man-showing the whole exhibition.

>>153944671
No it wouldnt we create a monster that could kill Whis. Maybe Buu can absorb Beerus and Whis too.

>>153939196
Where is that guy that would hold our hands while cosplaying as Videl if Gohan didn't defeat Zamasu?

Did he an hero already?

>>153944749
>>153944757
It's a last resort if Buu becomes the only fighter not knocked out or killed we have him absorb everything within a mile and btfo everyone in the tournament

>>153944805
Just make sure he doesn't get Satan so that he can talk him down later and make the defusing wish.

>>153944757
Gods cant participate themselves in the tournament, but can only provide support from the sidelines so having him absorb them directly is cheating

>yfw Zeno sees how strong Androids, Saiyans, and Majin are and begins creating them at will across all Universes

>>153944621
When ring outs are a thing, does it count if you rip off Buu's foot or something and throw it to the ground outside the ring?

>>153944909
More like: U7 loses the comp but Zeno doesn't wanna kill Goku. In exchange he tells the Kais and GoDs who lost that they have a century to get their shit together. The Kais obviously start replicating their best work (sayains, buus, andriods and friezas). This leads into the futureverse. It also explains why the Z fighters started teaching their techiques en masse to the broader populace.

>>153944976
Yes, remember tournaments have been lost before by like a tiny part of the shoe or hair touching the ring out area.

>>153940425
Let him be, you fucking idiot. He made a nice chart. Unlike you, he actually contributed.

>tournament of power
>the least powerful universe get to fight

I wish they'd release the bloody dub already.

>>153945042
>implying goku won't request the tourny continue as his prize

>>153945093
The dub has been playing for like 2 months.

>>153943910
>implying Cell would cooperate

That thing was fucking psychotic after it self-destructed and regenerated. Cell would be more likely to try and kill Zeno than do anything useful. Hell, willing to bet he'd think being erased would be better than living in a world where anyone is above him in any way.

>>153945154
>implying Zeno wouldn't seen Cell and thing he was the perfect Cicada stroking his ego

>>153945154
Just pacify him. As a kai you'd have access to loads of magic and short of that a whole universe of unique magics and concoctions. It would be simpe enough to take away his free will. After you do that namekian fuse to piccilo so that he controls the fusion.
2ez.

>>153944169
And the GoD is supposed to handle bullshit like Frieza and Buu, all while removing clearly worthless worlds.

>>153944244
>GP learns you used time travel
>erases everything

Good job, jackass.

>>153945265
Are they really supposed to care about beings like Frieza? He only fucked with other ningens, while Buu went after gods.

>>153945300
They don't fucking check and can't tell unless they do. Further time magic is a shinkai and ningen trick. Whis can't even handle too much of it. If U7 got away with as much as it did with future trunks one more spin won't hurt.

They only got sprung by telling Whis and Beerus, as well as brining over an old Zeno

>>153944609
He does, Whis comments on it a few times. Champa is the same in that regard.

Basically, they're the nerds of the GoDs. Beerus is the thin skeletal nerd while Champa is the chubby nerd.

>>153945377
>Sleeps a lot
>Doesn't do his Job
>Watches anime
Is Beerus /ourguy/?

>>153944671
>Satan is a tard handler

Oh lawdy.

Speaking of Satan, note how he's paying attention to everything Goku says during Gohan's fight. Satan learning to use ki when?

>>153940826
From that picture, it looks more like a rabbit.

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>tfw you will never be born in a universe with a mortal level over 7

>>153945431
You think so? It definitely looks similar to Beerus to me

>>153944724
Because if said tyrants start blowing up the good planets, it fucks with the quality of the universe, and as we now know, that's bad. Real bad. Armageddon bad.

>>153945429
Never. At best he will promote from tard handler to tard trainer and coach buu through harder matches

>>153945445
why is god so cruel

>>153945486
I bet ningen did this!
>tfw no edit of the tangled lights with a perplexed and frustrated Zamasu
It's just too bad

>>153945469
Does it matter? Zeno destroys planets as a game of chess. He also wants to delete entire universes just because. Morality doesn't matter anymore. Gods of Destruction have the job to destroy so that's what they do, simple as that.

>>153944737
>Cell at least has the tact to not be entirely a dick unlike Frieza or Buu.
>willing to kill himself with a whole planet because he's not perfect
>not a dick

Even Frieza and Buu weren't that petty. Oh yes, they blew up planets they were on, but weren't planning to kill themselves.

>>153939368
It's a tie. The rules are you have to make your opponent concede or stop moving. Gohan stopped moving, so doggo won too.

>>153945521
>because he's not perfect
But he was perfect. Goku/Veggie took years to reach SSJ2. Gohan had to suffer an emotional shock to unleash his hidden potential to reach it.

Cell learned it just by fighting with Gohan and zenkai boosting due to saijan dna.

Just tell Bulma to install a morality chip in his ass like they did 16

>>153945327
Remember how, when he woke up, he tells Whis he should really take care of Frieza, to which Whis replies that someone already did it for him, which is what triggered the whole Super storyline in the first place?

It's getting clear that Beerus isn't just supposed to destroy and kill at a whim, that being the GoD is a job. One he's botched and neglected.

>>153945424
You fucking know he is.

>>153944724
>this was why Beerus was surprised that Freiza died

goku fucked with his master plan

>>153945512
>just because

It's been made clear that he erases universes when they're more trouble than they're worth, and that his measuring stick to decide which universes stay and which go is the average power level of mortals in that universe.

>>153945607
I'm talking about when he self-destructed as semi-perfect Cell. It's not even winning in a cheap way, which is what Frieza and Buu did. It's going "If I don't win, nobody does!", it's taking his ball and going home.

>>153945146
What morning cartoon show do I need to satellite jack to watch it?

>>153944724
The problem seems to be that his Universe lacks powerful, good aligned mortals. Most of the powerful people were evil and they got defeated by the same handful of good guys every time.

>>153939196
Gohan-chan is the best boy. He deserves better. This is bullshit. Wasn't he supposed to be the strongest thing ever? What the fuck changed to make him such a fucking jobber?

>>153945759
Wouldn't that mean he'd prefer to destroy the more powerful universes?

>>153945960
Actually, it's the reverse. Frieza and his ancestors were left to blow up any world which had a fairly high average PL to eliminate any potential opposition. You know, like they did to the Saiyans. And were about to do to the Namek.

>>153945986
>He wants to keep the better universes, uses PL as a measuring stick
>"Doesn't that mean he should destroy powerful universes?"

Is this bait?

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>>153945986
Fuck, why erase the universes at all? Just let them be. I see no cause for universal deletion unless some horrible anomaly happens, like if it gets Zamasu'd.

Deleting universes seems especially weird since Zeno apparently created afterlives. Why bother make eternal domains like heaven and hell if you're just going to blink it all out of existence?

>>153939772
Weren't universes suposed to be paired like 1-12 2-11 3-10, etc?
Why are 6 and 7 the only ones with similarly-looking GoDs?

>>153946095
It's not the reverse. The end result was that there are very few powerful, good mortals in Beerus' universe. This is because the evil mortals went on a killing spree and took out all but the most powerful good mortals before being defeated.

>>153946125
More powerful subjects equals more trouble. Any ruler knows that.

>>153945607
>morality chip in his ass like they did 16
What dub bullshit is this?

>>153945975
hardwork>potential

Reminder that Zamasu and Black killed all the gods of every universe in Future Trunks's timeline.

>>153946499
They killed the pleb Kaioshins, not the gods of destruction.

>>153946267
>subjects

I don't think you fully understand what level Zeno functions on.

>>153946209
It's unclear whether Zeno created the Universes, and whether the stories about him destroying them are true. Note how much the GP speaks for Zeno.

I love roshi but why and how

>>153939196
Technically it is a draw. Just like zaraki and ichigo. Both fighters are unable to fight anymore.

>>153946774
Gohan was the last man standing. Should have been his victory.

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>>153939196

Be Cell.
Struggle for decades to reach ultimate perfection.
Beat Son Goku, arguably one of the Greatest Warriors in existence from a Warrior Race.
Utterly crush Vegeta and Trunks.
Only lose when Gohan somehow mysteriously awakens a hidden power that makes him even more powerful then regular Saijins despite being a half breed.
Die.

Get to watch through a magic crystal ball as your former rival slowly turn into a weaking and a cuck.

Realize that the reason you thought you were so great was because your mommy, Dr. Gero, told you how wonderful you were all the time while you were incubating.
Watch as you, the "Perfect Being" consequently become a laughing stock.
So this is hell.
FML

Need some tendies.

>>153945039
>this much butthurt
Who hurt you, anon?

>>153947049
Kid Buu gets to be reincarnated. Freeza gets to be revived. What does Cell get? Nothing. It ain't right.

>>153947214

I have faith they won't leave Cell out to dry

they'll bring him back somehow

>>153947214
Cell gets to rest without being subject to a shitty story like Resurrection F

>>153946731
Everyone agrees that it's stupid. Like, it's nice to bring back older characters and make them relevant again, but Roshi? I'd have picked Videl first. Hell, I'd have picked Yajerobi first.

The winner gets to make a wish with the super dragon balls right? So how likely is it that Goku will wish the erased universes back 'Coz he wants to fight such strong people again'

>>153945429

>Satan learning to use ki when?

Satan's a fallen Angel.

>>153947759
But what about Leo?

>>153947463
or you know, he could just wish a plethora of new galaxies with stronger people

>>153947847
You what? Yes they have

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>>153947271

Cell definately had one of the best soundtracks in the American version. If they brought him back I don't know if they could make music that would do the character justice.

Do you know what Gohan means?

>>153946209
Imagine you're playing 12 simultaneous games of sim city.

Eventually you might get bored, disappointed or frustrated with some of your less interesting/successful cities and just delete them.

That's what Zeno is thinking of doing.

>>153939196
So basically Zen OH's big plan is to edstroy universes who were gonna be destroyed anyway because their gods were lazy fuckass? that's kida right.

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>>153939196
I don't understand why people are shitting on Gohan for this. He joined this tournament on the fly without any training. The purpose of this fight was to rekindle his fighting spirit and his urge to get stronger, which it did.

>>153948332
If it was anything like that bullshit heavy metal that played when Freiza stepped out of the pod in ROF, I'll pass.

>>153948396
That already happened when Freiza fucked him up in ROF.

>>153939196
>That POWER BOMB
easily the coolest finish in Super so far.

>>153948332
I like the version when he returns as Super Perfect Cell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aa3p8Nju_k

>>153948446
But that never went anywhere. And then he was only interested in protecting his family. While that's still the case, now he actually wants to see how strong he can get on his own.

Is it me or did today's ep look pretty good? More than the average DBZ episode at least

>>153948563
Did you not notice in the last episode?

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That Goku and Gohan moment at the end was nice. Regardless of how Toei Goku acts, at least you can tell his son's growth still means something to him.

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>>153946209
have to keep the ningen level high

>>153940594
>Goku can't into math
>His new enemy is math
OH NO

>>153939772
Why did it only occur to me now that all the GoDs are named after booze? Like, Vermouth was obvious, but then

>Beer
>Champagne
>Liquor
>Cider
>Gin
>Arak (flip booze)
>Moscow probably named after the cocktail
>no idea for Ivan and Kitera

>>153948742
Forgot, no idea for Heles either.

>>153946214
Dude how can't you see how Arak looks completely similar to Rhikeel?

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>>153948742

Godfather

One part Amour-etto
One part Scotch
rite?

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>>153948774

Reading these threads is weird when you haven't really watched Super.

>>153948897
Now you know how people who never watched DBZ feel when people talk about it around them.

>>153948742
This has been discussed to death.
Iwan is an anagram of Wine's pronunciation.
Kitera is an anagram of Tequila.

So which universe is the one that killed off 99.9999999999% of its sentient life so as to have a smaller pool of higher quality/power level mortals?

My money's on Universe 1, that kuriboh probably wiped out most of the weaker population via children's cardgames on flying nimbuses.

>>153939196
yeah... but he fucked videl, so what do you got?

>>153948742
Kitera is Tequila
Mosco is Cosmopolitan
Iwan is Wine

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>>153948638

And they complained about getting Buu disqualified because of a scholastic test. Won't they be surprised when diakioshin breaks out the written portion of the tournament!

>>153947355
Why didn't they pick Yamcha?

>>153946648
reminder that we saw zeno delete at least one universe in the future

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>>153948875
>>153948774
Her name is "Jerez" (spanish sherry)

>>153946209
So why is he concerned with Ningen power level?
I mean it's going to be the same for every universe the high level fighters will carry everyone so why does he care if the average mortal is slightly stronger than farmer with shotgun?

>>153949156
>using noncanon toei for proof

>>153939772
Wait, they won't take part in the tournament?
I thought they just won't be erased if they lose.

>>153949249
zeno said the 4 universes with the average strongest mortals wont compete
he wasgoing to erase the weaker universes anyways, this tournament just saved one of them

>>153947759
mind. blown.

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>thinkin of jobbing

Reminded there's a wish for the winning universe after the tournament. And its supposed to be anything since we're talking about superdragonballs.

Can super dragonballs even cancel Zeno's doing?

>>153944699
That's what they get for not subscribing to Godtube Red

>>153945300
Grand Priest and Zeno don't give a fuck about time travel. Zeno literally saw them do it and Grand Priest obviously knows about it with Future Zeno and all

Some of you guys are alright. Don't tune into GodTube tomorrow.

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>all of the GoD's created by Cuckataro were written out of relevancy by Toriyama

kek based tori

>>153949284
What if the Zenos are literally physical manifestations of the Super Dragon Balls? Wouldn't that be a twist.

>>153945868
It's on Adult Swim saturday nights along with Buu Kai

>>153949437
Yeah no them being written out pretty much means they're going to be important in the next arc if Goku doesn't fuck them over and makes a deal with Zeno to include them in the tournament

>>153949284
Yes, they're capable of doing anything. Though Zeno might demand the wish right then and there and restoring the Universes would just piss him off.
>>153949437
>Toyo's Gods are stronger and worthy of non-erasure

>>153949513
>means they're going to be important in the next arc

Keep deluding yourself

>>153949284
Zuno did say the Super Dragon Balls can do ANYTHING without limits.

Also I will be really disappointed if Zarama isn't some kind of super Dragon Clan Namekian

>>153949540
>Zeno says their the strongest universes
>Hurr durr they won't important in the next arc
???

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>no clearing poison by going godly Mystic form
>not even a clean victory, had to be a fucking tie
Jesus Christ, why do they hate Gohan so much? Even when he wins he doesn't really win.

>>153949590
>>153949532
>>153949459
And thats when the losing universes will all agree on merging them into one

>>153949659
The only clean victory Gohan has ever had was Garlic Jr.

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>>153949714
this is actually going to happen isnt it

>Wow, I can't believe all these strong guys are gonna be around me now!

>>153949659
Except he didnt win

He would have died from the poison without a senzu, furfag just got KO'd

>>153949714
Honestly i'd be happy if it turns out like this.

>>153949738
There need to be 7 universes because Dragon Ball

>>153949786
>Mega Dragon Balls, with one ball in every universe
The ride never ends.

>>153949230
>Jerez
>supported by official website

>Helles
>supported by fan assumption

Pick one

>>153949722
>Who's Cell
>Who's Bank robbers

You are now aware that the Chess Game was Zeno playing with U7. He was already in the process of slowly destroying it, so when the Tournament of Power happened, their level was already too low from being destroyed too much.

>>153949835
i'll go with fans that know what they're doing instead of retards who cant even make animation look good, when thats their job.

>>153949867
>I'll trust people who watch the show about something that hasn't yet been shown in the show instead of actual evidence from the official website of the show
??

>>153949836
Cell was anything but a clean victory

>>153949836
>Cell
>Needed Goku's intervention twice
>Needed Vegeta to distract Cell

>>153939772
U7 will probably fight against U4 in the first round since that one has a Toriyama God and against U2 in the second round, since U2 is also Toriyama created and possibly the home to Beerus and Champa.
U11 is obviously final round and will be the one to defeat U6 on its way to the final.

>>153949894
>>153949940
Fine but we all agree that Gohan was able to beat those robbers without any help right?

>>153949836
>Cell
>clean victory

>>153949981
Sure, if you want, but even Videl can do that

>>153949981
>Gohan Vs robbers
>Clean victory
they were distracted by the police and Videl

>>153949867
>I'll go with people who watch/read the series instead just read the official website of the series
OK anon go home

>>153950303
Videl wasn't even in scene until Gohan already defeated the robbers

>>153949513
Exactly. This is how they fix Goku being the allegedly strongest person in the universe. Introduce universes that are filled with far stronger people.

>>153939484
>>153940136
They could get Future Trunks, Goten, Kid Trunks and Freeza if they wanted to. But who do they get instead? Worthless, shitty fodder like Roshi, 18, 17 and Krillin. Christ, that brings the average down horribly.

>>153950950
>Freeza
Literally anyone would be better than Frieza. He's so assmad at Goku that he would not stop trying to kill him

>>153950941
It's band-aid on the power creep, but it's better than nothing.

>average
So are Z fighters so weak, or do they just increase the power level of universe 7 by like 2 points on their own, considering how saiyans shit on everyone else so hard?

>>153951458
That's like 12 people out of trillions.

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What do you think?

>>153951458
it's an average, having everybody with a powerlevel of 1 and only like 10 people with over 1000 isn't going to make the average stop being low

>>153951474
>not Universe 6 vs Universe 7 again because Broliko
One job, one fucking job, anon.


>inb4 she's from U11
Shut up

>>153951474
Imo, each universe should face its paired universe in the first round, or atleast that's how i think it'll go.

>>153951474
Clown universe dude's fighters are literally seen duking it out with Goku in the intro. We know they fight at some point.

>>153951064
Yeah. I would prefer they just find some way to boost guys in U7, but like you said, it's better than nothing.

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Zamasu was right again. Gods not guiding mortals not only made them into uncultured swines, it also leads to Zeno destroying universes that never developed properly.

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Ep title 81-83 and ep 81 preview revealed
no ep on march 12
And before you say it, the mention of U4 is not a mistake.

>>153951562
I just don't think Beerus will be the one to doom Champa.
U11 is going to be the big evil one that dooms Gowasu and Champa.

>>153951702
Gowasu was trying to teach that barbarous ningen were okay to let live because their strength is preferable to having exceptionally weak but peaceful ningen.

A peaceful universe was never an option.

>>153951562
Both universes will pass the first round easily and exchange banter, just for U6 to lose against U11 leading to U7 getting pumped for the final round and their chance to avenge U6.

>>153951458
If you had a billion people at powerlevel 1 and one dude at power level 1 billion. Then the average powerlevel would just be 2. Averages can be misleading. The highest power universe could be a trillion people who are no more or less than 2% of Goku's power, and it would be a higher average than U7.

>>153951968
I'd guess the higher average universes also have a higher top tier, not only more balance, otherwise there'd be no reason to be impressed by Goku's battle just because he's from U7, the 2nd lowest one. The universe's average would be meaningless for a tournament like this.

>>153939772
>Universe 6 & 7 are the only one with the same species of GoD.

Didn't they say all the universes had counterparts? why is Champa/Beerus the exception?

>>153939428
Nice Strawman

>>153951738
Who the fuck makes these titles that literally spell out what happens?

>Star Wars Episode V: Darth Vader is Luke's Farther?!?!
>Harry Potter 6: Dumbledore Dies?!?!
>Lord of the Rings 3: Frodo puts on the Ring and Golum fucking bites off his finger and falls into Mt Doom?!?

>>153952092
Probably another idea that got lost along the way. Toriyama is making that shit up on the fly.

>>153952190
The latest dub episode of super is the worst
"accouncer: will vegetas anger be able to overcome beerus?"
title: "GOku appears!"
literally fucked it all

>>153952092
The story of how two cat brothers became the destruction gods of separate universes is a long one.

>>153952190
Japs just can't into subtlety with titles. LNs are the worst in that regard.

>>153946214
because champa and beerus are brothers. the GoD's dont have to be related

>>153952190

its just a Toei thing

One Piece is the same way

>>153948396
>without any training.

this is wrong though

>>153952300
Perhaps we'll get a movie that details the ascension of Beerus and Champa to godhood some day.

>>153951474

>>153951888
This.

As for Universe 7 matches:
U4 and U2 are created by Toriyama so they are most likely to fight against U7.
Universe 2 could also be the home to Beerus and Champa since it's twin to Universe 11 which also has at least one of their race. This could lead to some tension with Beerus destroying his home.

Also Universe 9 vs 6 for the irony of losing against Saiyans twice.

>>153943127
>all these potential for strong fighters
>Nah lol let's just fodderize half of them xD

Yeah, this is why you're not a famous writer

>>153952668
>Lets just not use them at all

>>153952782
>Implying they're not saving the 7+ universes for a future arc

U7 having low averages can be blamed on Freeza

He disposed of anyone that was strong enough to be a threat.

And Beerus went along with it because he was sleeping.

>>153952938
>Beerus was sleeping

Speaking of which, how long does he generally stay awake for in between his 20 year catnaps?

>>153939196
>gohan cucked
what happened in super with him? I am missing the new episodes

>>153951018
Cell would probably be the absolute best choice among anyone, honestly. He's pretty reasonable and loves a good fight. It'd basically be like having another saiyan.

>>153953038
Cell tried to blow up the planet the moment someone stronger than him appeared
He would go apeshit when he meets beerus and Goku

>>153953038
>An era when Cell would become an Anti-hero

What a time to be alive that would be.

>>153953126
Vegeta did the same shit though. The only distinguishing factor regarding cell was that he was fighting the far more ruthless SSJ2 Gohan. I kinda doubt he would've gone ahead with the whole planet explosion thing as readily if he was fighting Goku.

>>153949867
Be careful, Anon! Don't cut yourself with your own edges.

>>153953126

Cell is also too damn evil and killed too many people. He only cares about his own perfection. Remember this faggot killed Trunks. He will go after 17 and 18 again, along with anyone else he can suck up to become more powerful. He cannot be trusted.

>>153953256
Vegeta has emotions and shit that made him forgivable. He had the background with frieza to make him an anti hero. Cell just murdered people for personal gain right out of the gate.

>>153953038
Fuck Cell. If they were that hard up they'd be better off trying to revive that Cell Jr that tried to run away

>>153953521
>shit that made him forgivable
>crying after you get beat like the little bitch you are
>instantly forgiven
vs
>programmed to consume yet shows he can overcome this genetic brainwashing
>instantly hated
Vegetafags needs to kill themselves.

>>153941513
It's the kais fault for not making higher quality ningens but also beerus fault for dropping the average by letting frieza wipe out all saiyans and dropping the galactic average

>>153953406
>He will go after 17 and 18 again
Fuck, now that I think about it, that should have been the development of the Super 17 arc in GT. Instead of fighting Cell and Freeza in hell, Goku should have only fought Freeza, with Cell appearing on earth later and sneakily absorbing Super 17 after Goku weakened him somehow. Would be ultimate pottery. And probably still shit, but that's GT for you.

Gohan only got down some seconds after he knocked out his opponent, even in real life this would give him the win. The angels are cheaters