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What's the point of putting the GoDs of U1, U12, U5 and U8 in the OP like this if their universes are not going to participate?
You can bet your ass Zeno is gonna change his mind and have every universe compete regardless of rating
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How can U7 be the second-weakest when it's already clearly established that they beat U6? Did Toei make a mistake?
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>>153939433
They will still watch the tournament at the very least.
>>153939450
It's the average of whole universes, not the roster.
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>>153939450
The power rankings for universes are specifically said to be averages of its mortal populations.
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>>153939433
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>>153939450
>this fucking bait again

stop
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>top kek fight choreography?
>what's that?
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Reminder.
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>>153939450
It's based on averages, son. Look at humans. If Goku hadn't been around, Earth would've been destroyed by a low-tier saiyan.

It just means the average ningen in U7 is pathetic, and not that Goku is weaker than the top fighters of other universes.
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>>153939530
Looks fine. Fuck off and go watch Your Name again.
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>>153939450
Hit is significantly stronger than Goku and co. so Toei was right.
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>>153939530
I don't see anything wrong there anon
Thanks for the webm anyway
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>>153939450
Suck my d-d-d--dddddick.
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>>153939478
>gohan third
>buu last
what did he mean by this?
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>>153939520
He's talking about manga Goku dumbass.
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>>153939531
>Gohan is standing at the end of the fight.
>Wait for him to fall and then call it a tie.

Ending's bullshit but this episode was otherwise great for /ourboygohan/
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Hey Beerus, hey Kaioshin. Know what might help? Telling the U7 roster to get stronger. You have Whis: make use of him. Everyone except Buu or above level opponents will job to shit fighters like those three furfags.

This is a good opportunity and motivation for Krillin and co. to be trained and actually get stronger.
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>>153939530
>Toyocucks this desperate
That looks good Pedro
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>>153939433
Are they exempt from the tournament, or just exempt from being erased if they lose?
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>>153939478
Fuck that. I wanted Kurama to participate.
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I just thought

when Fajita and Nappster were attacking Earth, why didn't the Bald Gang stock up on senzus instead like a bunch of bugs to raid?
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>>153939613
Animation only looks good because Shueisha is in charge now.
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>>153939573
I was just posting a reaction image, dumbass.
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>>153939553
Hit and Goku are both outliers, and Goku is now stronger than Hit. In fact, the moment Goku managed to beat Hit, all his fascination and interest in Hit disappeared, while Hit himself was still interested in hanging out with Goku because he makes for a good rival.

Poor cucked Hit.
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>>153939596
Grand Priest knows that if he makes it a tie, then he can justify having a third match for Zen-oh to watch to determine if universe 9 loses or at least draws with universe 7.
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>>153939650
>moving the goalpost this blatantly

jej
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>>153939596
Gohan should have taken the fucking bean, his fault he lost. I guess the also could have just snapped lavenders neck when he nothing personalled up behind him.
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jfc db fandom is the most retarded there is
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>>153939530
They don't have Toriyama's manga to follow now, so the fights aren't as good.
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>>153939671
Im not him.
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>>153939450
Firstly because it's based on averages, not on the power of only the strongest in that universe.

Secondly, I get the feeling this will actually come up and the joke will be that U6 is rated 3.19 or 3.20, basically higher ranked but only by an unbelievably small amount.For extra funny it could turn out that Beerus bringing back the Earth of U6 is what made them rise those few points to be higher ranked, meaning that it's Beerus' own fault that he lost to Champa in universe rankings.
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>>153939596
Well, he has enough motivation to keep training and becoming stronger and also didn't entirely job, so that's cool.
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>>153939652
It's shit, retard.
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>>153939530
Toyochad here, what's wrong with that? This episode was impressive in DBS standards.
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>Toppo doesn't know what a SSJ is
>Brolyne isn't from U11
>Brolyne isn't a Pride Trooper

Aw
Well the memes were fun while they lasted
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>>153939622
They're banned from particiapting cuz they're too good.
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>>153939727
Sweet I didn't know Kano was in this.
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drawfag here again. made my time drawing one of the upcoming fighters
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>>153939719
No, you a shit.
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>>153939725
>This episode was impressive in DBS standards

Of course it is, they are following Toyotaro's storyboards now
That fight was originally drawn by him
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I miss him
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>>153939450
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>>153939478
>Ivan not participating
>Liquer not participating
fuck me
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>>153939749
have they not payed attention to Gokus retard strength?
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>>153939752
Nice work.
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>>153939727
Everyone that thought she was with them is stupid as fuck.
>hurr durr they're all wearing red so ofc their together
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>>153939778
You've not seen those 4 universes anon.
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>>153939778
A V E R A G E

This isn't about the individuals, this is about the collective
>powerlevelfags can't into basic statistics
pottery
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>>153939778
They dont want the good universes wiped out for a shithole like universe 7 or 9.
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you think Shin and Beerus are regretting meeting Goku
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>>153939752
Hey it's Teletubby.
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>4 universes not participating
>many more future arcs involving them confirmed
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>>153939769
at least U7 are not the worst
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>Not wanting to fuck cute boi
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>>153939450

It's not based on power level shit. It's about overall universal quality.

Just fucking look at what U7 has had to endure:

-Intergalactic power hungry evil emperor Frieza, eradicating civilizations, enslaving planets, and selling them.
-Androids more powerful than the above intergalactic threat
-Fucking magic/mystical creature Majin Buu created solely for destruction that nearly wiped out the Kais of U7.
-Some purple water thing that can completely replace and replicate people, potentially even a god (that filler arc where Goku fought evil SSJ Blurple Vegeta).
-A God of Destruction that takes centuries long naps and destroys planets not for balance, but out of spite because of shitty food (this lowers Universal quality quite a lot I bet)

U7 really is a fucking shit hole.
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>>153939808
>implying those 4 universes have Goku-tier fighters.
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>tfw probably wont get to see the strongest fighters because they wont be participating
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>>153939808
no no I havent I assume they are crazy powerful but cmon be honest. The stronger the opponent Goku somehow "powers" up to some new level while vegeta shakes his forehead and says something like DAMN KAKAROT ALWAYS AHEAD OF ME
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>>153939752
forgot, I had a nsfw version of this I didnt do yet.
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>all these retards that skipped maths class in school
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>>153939846
This.

Don't forget a Kaioshin who just sits about and talks about letting the ningen get stronger on their own.
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>>153939828
gotta love how the angels don't care at all
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>>153939846
so your saying U7 is the Africa of universes?
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>>153939828
Yeah, and assuming the ranking is linear U7 is almost twice as good as U9 is.

U9 is literally the scummy backwater of the multiverse. Rated less than 2 out of 10. Though it's honestly not really a surprise what with them having such an unscrupulous Kai and such a pacifist GoD (I mean, he seems like a nice guy and all but a God of Destruction needs to be able to destroy shit that holds his universe back and I get the feeling Dwarf-boy doesn't have the spine for doing that).
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>>153939891
Their asses aren't on the line.
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>>153939764
>That fight was originally drawn by him
Nah if that were true the fight might have been good, instead of 2fast4U punch spam for the most of it.
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>>153939846
Beerus is the worst god of destruction
Sidra's universe is the lowest solely because of his benevolent nature but at least he would have taken care of the Buu threat
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So the paired universes have thrived the best (1&12 and 5&8). Can single universe survive if it's sister universe is erased?
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>>153939917
I want a flashback on how the dwarf became a GoD.
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>>153939940
shit wrong pic
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>Zamasu killed all the ningen
>Zeno can't calculate the average power level because divided by zero
>Goku was the one who told Zeno to kill Zamasu
Zamasu is the hero we need. Fuck Goku.
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>>153939940
D-don't bully Beerus.
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>>153939974
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>>153939433
>Champa confirmed more competent than Beerus
KEK
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>>153939891

>>153939917
>U9 is literally the scummy backwater of the multiverse.
>he seems like a nice guy and all but a God of Destruction needs to be able to destroy shit that holds his universe back

you are probably right about both
I expect them to not survive the first round
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>>153939826
>next arcs are about Goku and the gang travelling to the other universes to meat strong guys
then we write from there
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>>153939927
again, I see nothing wrong in that webm and yes the Dragon Ball Room is literally both the manga and anime teams working together

haven't you considered that maybe Toyotaro is good at drawing but not at animating?
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Honestly, Beerus was quite a shitty God of Destruction. That might change after meeting Goku. He's already changed quite a bit.
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Really makes you ponder...
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>>153940012
Makes sense, really.
>Champa: If you guys don't perform I will destroy you!
>Beerus: Yo Goku and Whish! Go sort this thing out for me.
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>>153940019
>>you are probably right about both
>I expect them to not survive the first round
There's still the second wolf next to Basil in the opening. I wouldn't be surprised to see a rematch between U7 and U9. Maybe he's the Hit of U9.
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>for all we know Earth is housing the strongest fighters in U7!
>people like Roshi are way stronger than almost everyone else in U7!
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>>153939900

U7 is indeed the Africa of universes, and Saiyans are its nignogs.
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>>153940108
Also instead of destroying Frieza, he let Frieza do his thing and made deals with him.
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>>153940019
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the U9 Kai ended up trying to assassinate the Zenos and got his whole universe erased before the tournament even started.

At the very least I am expecting some seriously underhanded shenanigans from him and his fighters if U9 even makes it to the tournament.
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>>153940115
Nah, Smugpup is probably from Universe 4
U4 and U9 are twin universes so they have the same races
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>>153940019
>>153940099
Th-thanks Goku.
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>>153939478
>Vegeta
>Piccolo
>Android 18
>Android 17
>Majin Buu
Sure are a lot of formerly genocidal villains on team Universe 7.
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>>153940180
Did you even watch the episode? Lowest universes would have been erased anyway. This way the top10 dudes can save the rest of the countless masses.
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>>153940133
fug Zamasu really didnt do anything wrong
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>>153940130
That fag was pleb tier who lost to mere energy.
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>>153940099
It's like Beerus just realized who's really the more important one
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When will you accept Zamasu as your lord and savior?
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>>153940207
Most of the U7 fighters were bad guys at one point in the series.

Only exceptions are Goku, Gohan, Roshi and Krillin.
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>Supreme Kai is an asshole
>God of Destruction doesn't destroy shit
>the dynamic that lets universes grow in ''quality'' is just not there because of this
>angel looks high all the time
>the three strongest mortals are furries

U9 is literally the worst
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>>153940216

I can already imagine it.

You know how in the manga, Future Zamasu and Goku Black are all "Hey, we should probably head elsewhere before we attract the attention of the Omni-King"?

I bet if Omni-King had found them, he would have been all "This is great! I was already going to delete this universe! Please go ahead and destroy it for me!"
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They actually sort of jutified Goku's actions with the tournament - at least now they have a fighting chance
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>>153940252
>Goku
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>Bergamo is going to make Goku out to be a bad guy
>Universe 9 is the lowest quality Universe
>Bergamo is fighting the greatest fighter of Universe 7, a Universe above his in quality whom is also a God
>Bergamo is a Canine
>yfw Bergamo is the literal Underdog
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>HE'LL WIN FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT
>HE'LL LOSE KEK KEK KEK
>He draws

Shitposters on both sides blown the fuck out by old man Toriyama.
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What is this expression trying to comvey?
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>>153940279
Yeah, they did. Instead, Goku will be seen as a hero.

Fucking hell.
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>>153940291
Fair point. Okay, so we're down to 3 of the 10 fighters from U7 actually always being good guys.
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>>153940299
I'm unironically cheering for Bergam. Too bad it looks like he's being toyed with in the preview.
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>>153940257
>>the three strongest mortals are furries
When was mentioned they were their strongest? Maybe they just wanted to recruit quickly 3 fighters and then they got the furries
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>>153940304
Come on anon, it was a victory technically
Lavenda is the one who passed out first and Gohan only did because of the bullshit poison which would have affected Goku or Vegeta too, Grand Priest is just an ass
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Posting v27
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>>153940306
The pain of being poisoned inside.
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>>153940279
God dammit. Should have known they'd maintain the status quo.
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>>153940304
Based Toriyama
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>>153940340
>Goku doesn't even have the courtesy to go SSJ3
I wonder if these are actually the strongest in U9 or if the Supreme Jew just did a lousy job scouting for talent.
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>>153940251
You realize if Zamasu would have had his way the u10 would have been under the axe? Mortal level 0. Meanwhile Gowasu knew what was going on and let the brutish mortals brute on because it made the universe stronger. Zamasu was shit and wrong in every sense.
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>>153940348
Rou said so in episode 79

>meet the strongest fighters of universe 9!
>''trio de danger!''
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>>153939727

Pride Troopers are probably ayyys from other universes who are jumping ship to U11 to save themselves. Calling it now.
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>>153940340
>Toppo seems to be angry at Goku in episode spoilers and wants to fight him
>Universe 9 isn't being destroyed yet
>yfw the Pride Troopers decide to aid Universe 9 and train Bergamo and Bergamo is seen as the Underdog Hero of all Universes against the Heretical Saiyan God who doomed them all
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>>153939727
Holy shit! They have Varian Wrynn?
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>>153940396
episode 82 is titled ''Righteous Warrior Toppo Bursts In!''

Toppo is gonna help Bergamo
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>>153940396
How in the hell is ayy lmao gonna fit in? Toppo seems to cover everything you need for this arc, yet he has no presence in the OP. Did Toriyama do a last minute edit?
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If someone uses the dragon balls to wish for immortality can someone else use them to wish for that person to be mortal again?
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Am i the only one who find this guys annoying as hell and wish they did a better job with the character instead of it this piece of shit kawaii shit?
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Omni King is pretty based. Too many shitters out there so lets just wipe them out thanks for the idea Goku, i'll let the only one of you guys have a chance to remain.
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>>153940351
>grand priest is an ass because he didn't give my favourite character a win
he barely managed to make it a tie
That's it case closed go home shitters
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>>153939433
Real question is instead of taking some weak-ass humans, why not go to the afterlife and have the team be

>Goku
>Vegeta
>Gohan
>Freiza
>Buu
>Piccolo
>Cell
>Dabura
>Broly
>Time Breaker Bardock

How it is now it's like they want to lose
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How to solve the Zeno predicament: Show him Godtube.

Zeno will never do his 'job' again.
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>>153940419
>>153940451
I guess Toppo is gonna get defeated by Goku here after he tries to intervene, which makes Ayy Lmao mad.
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>>153940306
Hubris
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>>153940451
Begamo will be Goku's underdog rival but Ayy Lmao will be the Ace fighter of Universe 11 after their Leader is DQed/killed because of Goku, Ayy Lmao and Bergamo are going to team up to stop Goku.
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>>153940451
Maybe it turns out Ayy Lmao is the strongest but he wasn't interested in becoming a god
I don't know anon, how about you just wait and see?
What's with this fanbase being so quick at jumping to conclusions?
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>>153940491
>No future Trunks
Nigga was stronger than Vegito.
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>>153940466
actually if anything he is more horrifying.

Its like seeing a kid stab a stuffed rabbit with a smile on his face.
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>>153939807
She's obviously a U6 Saiyan but there's no reason she couldn't live in U11
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>>153940491
Broly and Time Breaker Bardock are non-canon.

Thank god for that.
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>>153940451
Ayy Lmao will be that universe's trump card.

He's not there because they want him to be a secret until the tournament starts properly. Either that or he's really busy/uncooperative and only decides to even be a part of it at all because the entire universe depends on it. I mean, everyone keeps assuming he's going to be a nice guy but what if Ayy Lmao is basically the Hit of that universe instead?
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>>153940515
Its called 'speculation' Anon, it is a thing that fans of certain things like Animation or Music tend to do to hype things up and make said things more interesting and worth it to look forward to.
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>>153940365
Mortals are trash, genocide would only raise the average, especially if they are killing humans who are weak as fuck.
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>>153940491
>Broly
>Time Breaker Bardock

I swear these lists get more retarded as time passes
There was one I saw that had shit like Tagome
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>>153940541
Ok and I literally just gave you something to speculate about
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>>153939433
because they're gonna be watching and making snide commentary
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>>153940592
...Yes? you also questioned why people were speculating which is what I just answered.
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>>153940559
Nah lets add in Turles to the mix.

OH and Dr.Wheelo too.
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>>153940551
Did you watch the latest episode? No matter of your gods and whatnots, if your mortal level was shit, Zeno was going to axe you. Goku gave everyone a fighting chance.
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Here is how i would have done it - have the Omniking tell Goku that he was planning to erase Universe 7 and then Goku suggest the tournament to Omniking saying that if Universe 7 wins then they will not be erased. Omni agrees.
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>>153939967
There's something really comfy about the "character sneezes when someone else mentions them" cliche
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>>153939450
>>153939701
it could be that the saiyans of cabba's universe all discovering super saiyan power while being a populated race could effect their level. Legendary Super Saiyan Girl could have been a recent discovery since universe 6
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I like Beerus.
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>People saying U6 is only better of U7 because of some literally who saiyans and hit.

its like you forgot Botamo or Magetta would curbstomp everyone in u7 in a legit fight.
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>>153940677
>0:53 of this video
https://youtu.be/dYyPBGmCRwQ
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So can Gohan still get a zenkai boost or is he already god mode but just rusty with his mystic form?
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>>153940491
the androids are stronger than piccolo and there's two of them. Dabura is low quality and Broly and Bardock aren't canon. Freeza and Cell are all you really got and they're dead and would have to be wished back first.
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>>153939450

Goku and Vegeta swept U6, however U6 had stronger overall fighters. Beside Goku/Vegeta/Buu, no one could have done anything about Magetta.
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>>153940632
And if you kill weak mortals like zamasu your average rises. If you killed everyone but the saiyan race your average would be high as fuck.
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So is first place the only ones who get to survive, or will second and third be spared as well? Because I like Champa and Gowasu, and don't want to see them get obliterated.
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>>153940700
Gohan needs to train so he stops being a weak faggot.
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>>153940692
Did the Swedish one call him a gobshite?
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>U6 is better than U7, even though U7 beat U6
Justify this
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>>153940690
I don't know about Magetta but how the fuck are they going to deal with Botamo?
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>>153940758
Hit threw the match.
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>>153940692
>LET IT DURR LET IT DURR
What a beautiful language
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>>153940700
gohan is never getting god ki
at the very most he gets back his elder kai potential powers back
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>>153940736
If you kill every mortal your average is 0.
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>>153940758
U6 has a better average you double ningen
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>>153940766
stop responding to bait
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>>153939864
This kills the hype until next tourney.
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>>153940491
>Goku
>Vegeta
>Future Trunks
>Freiza
>Gohan
>Buu
>Piccolo
>Cell
>Android 17
>Android 18

This would probably be the ideal team. No one cares about Dabura so while he's stronger than the androids, there's no point putting him in.
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Toriyama and Toyotaro are fucking retarded you guys, here's how U7's team should be like

>Arale
>Cell Jr
>Appule
>Generic Frieza Soldier
>Saibaman
>Mr Satan
>Monaka
>Pilaf
>Sorbet and his ring laser
>farmer with shotgun

there you go, fool-proof unbeatable team
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>>153940497
I want to see Goku fight him. I think goku should be king of kings
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>>153939433
too laugh at poor ningens
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The rankings are based on the average mortal and it makes sense
>The PTO wiped out a shit ton of planets
>Freiza wiped out the Saiyans reducing the average by a lot
>Buu destroyed an entire Galaxy also reducing the average
U7 should be glad that their universe isn't a lot lower
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>>153940828
>yfw U9 is only as strong as it is because the GoD doesn't destroy more because the kaioshin is too much of an asshole to help foster development
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This episode basically confirmed that the angels of the 6 destroyed universes are still alive in some way.

I wonder what they look like, and what they even do without their gods.
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>>153940780

I'm sure angry Gohan can somehow achieve God mode but yes it won't happen in Super.
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>>153940816
isnt Goku strong enough already? Are you trying to make him Xenos version of Jesus?
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>>153940692
my sides
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>>153940828
What make you think that the other universes doesnt had bad guys doing the same or worst?
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beerus should put the monaka suit on and enter as a contestant while puar becomes the duplicate again
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>>153940815
I'd watch it just for Arale, she should have her own series.
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Post your tourney predictions
>U7 vs U2
>U6 vs U3
>U10 vs U4
>U9 vs U11
Those are my guesses for the first round.
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>>153940868
grand priest absorb their power
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>>153940861
How did Sidra become a GoD?
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>>153940896
>supreme kaio sama is gonna freak!
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>>153940758

Did you not remember how U7 beat U6? Hit threw his match with monaka

Also that was 5 of the best fighters from each universe, not the average of all the mortals from each
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>>153940878
Well either the other universes have a lot more warrior races or they just use the Dragon balls to fix everything the bad guy destroys
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>>153940815
Well yeah THE CHAMP is literally unbeatable. You could give him 9 Gokus and he'd still find a way to win even if goku dies to regular lasers.
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>>153940828
Killing few planets of even a whole galaxy shouldn't even dent the average in universe scale. There is (estimated to be) 200 billion to 2 trillion galaxies in the universe. Unless life is extremely rare occurance but I doubt that is the case in DB universe as there is literal gods creating and watching over the universe.
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>>153940758
AVERAGES MOTHERFUCKER! DO YOU UNDERSTAND THEM!

But to be serious here, U7 only won the tournament because Goku and Vegeta carried their asses through the whole thing.

U6's fighters were stronger on average in that tournament but U7 had Goku and Vegeta who were both really strong while U6 only had Hit for their really OP guys.
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>>153940896
I think it will be U6 vs U9 actually
We'll see Hit literally breezing through the furries
Also Lavenda vs Frost needs to happen
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>>153940894
(You)
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>>153940257
this
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>>153940912
maybe he mellowed out after realising his kai was a dick?
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>Expect a jobbing episode
>Or an asspull victory
>Fight has Gohan actually being decent throughout despite being un-trained for ages
>Bullshit tie

>Shin and Beerus are fucking way too cute together

Pleasantly fucking surprised from what i thought would be the obvioous shit episode between Buu and Goku's next one.
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>>153940690
U7 has the metalmen race too though
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>>153940937
Did you forget that the PTO have been doing that shit for decades?
Also Buu destroyed so many planets that he got bored and moved to the other world so he can kill the Kais
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>>153940870
Honestly, Whis should train all the participants. What can the below-Gohan tier fighters that they have on their team even do?
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>>153940491
Because all that matters is one person winning, so it'll come down to the strongest anyways, who is going to be Goku or Vegeta. The rest is just to pad out the roster.
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what universe was cleopatra again?
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Next ep is going to be boring and dragged out and not just goku kicking the furry's teeth in like in the intro, isn't it
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>>153940874
I really dont see a limit for him. The saiyan race always gets stronger for every fight they have. If im not mistaken. So i mean why not? I think goku can get so Strong he kills the king of kings. I mean he almost beat the god of destruction
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>>153940870
goku did the ritual
we did not see how vegeta achieved god ki other than training with whis

Hard work and not feelings are required it seems
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>>153939478
>fucking Tien and Roshi
>FUCKING KRILLIN

>No Cell or Frieza

It's like they want to get erased
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GOHAN RETURNS
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>>153940931
Goku can now beat Hit, and also, Goku threw the match first because muh "I wanna see your full power."
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>>153940870
but you will be taking away what made goku so special, so far nobody but Goku achieve this transformation, Vegeta probably cheated his way with Whis' help
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>>153940948
I wish I could make jokes with you people.
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>>153940937
The main problem U7 has is that their God of Destruction just does whatever he wants instead of only destroying those who would be detrimental to the universe and their Kai is inexperienced and not active enough in creating and guiding the progress of the life that does exist (U7's Supreme Kai is kind of a slacker really, just doesn't do that much probably due to the role being forced upon him).

Basically, it's Beerus and Kaioshin's fault for not doing their jobs well enough.
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>>153941017
stop posting
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>>153940997
Yep
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>>153941017
Frieza was okay with killing himself to kill Goku & company what makes you think he would give a fuck about being erased when he returns again
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What's his deal? How will Toriyama write the strongest warrior out of the story?
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Beerus and Shin is the character dynamic I never even realized I would enjoy, I hope there's more throughout the tourney
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>>153941040
Yes, but after this tournament, will they pick up the slack or nah?
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>>153941039
it wasn't a good joke
even then, it's hard to tell who's genuinely stupid or just joking on this website
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>>153941001

>we did not see how vegeta achieved god ki other than training with whis

Which is already weird since it's supposed to be achieved by being in a calm state like mystic
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>>153941065
>implying the writers can't make up a reason
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>>153941071
Yeah, it's pretty amazing.

Maybe this interaction will also change the both of them for the better, allowing them to synchronize more and do their jobs far better than they used to.
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>yfw these guys are in one of the top Universes that are allowed to skip the Tournament
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>>153940977
>>153940937
Don't forgot that if the movies are canon you have
>Turles destroying planets to make tree of might fruits
>Broly destroying an entire galaxy
>Lord slug freezing a shit ton of planets to death
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>>153940780
Ultimate Super Saiyan Rage False God Super Saiyan Gohan, also known Super Saiyan White Gohan, will be achieved this tournament and bottle everyone to pull out the win for U7
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>>153941087
Yeah, if Gohan wanted, he could go with Whis and get SSB. Of all fighters, he would obviously have the best aptitude.
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>>153941096
Nigga SSj4 is weaker than God. They would get obliterated by Hit or Black
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>>153941102
why not call it Super mystic gohan?
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>>153941111
oh fuck nice quads
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>>153941096
>GT is universe 1
How mad would you be?
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I wish they had done the entire series with this art style
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>>153940815
>farmer with shotgun
Kek.
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So now goku and everyone from the earth can fuck up with beerus because if he destroy the earth his universe will be the oke with the lower ranking?
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>>153941096
not canon
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>>153941130

because "mystic gohan" is already a fan term
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>>153941130
>>153941182
It's CANON name is ULTIMATE Super Saiyan Gohan thank you very much
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>Pilaf and co. are old in GT
So I guess that means they'll get to undo their wish in Super
Please don't reply that this isn't canon. It very well could be depending on how Super ends.
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>>153940815
You know this team could win the tournament because gag strength>Powerlevel in DB super
Arale alone could btfo the entire tournament
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will there be a sad scene with beerus and champa after u6 gets destroyed?
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>>153941102
>gohan despierta el super saiyajin blanco
why do the commons like oc donut steel characters
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>>153941190
GT isn't canon dumbass
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>>153941189
Super ultimate super saiyan
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>>153941190

It's not canon. And why would you WANT it to be?
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>>153941096
wew, ss4 looks really dumb with the fur drawn realistically like that
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Isn't it suspicious how the Grand Priest constantly speaks for Zeno?
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>>153941155
GT is still used heavily in the video games, I wouldn't be surprised if Toriyama tied it into Super or atleast cameo the GT series in some type of way.
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>>153941242
it looked really dumb either way it was never cool it was never fun it was never special
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>>153940466
I think it's fitting. He's a child that's willing to destroy/create anything on a whim.
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>>153941196
Can one universe survive if it's sister universe is wiped? The earlier universes that Zeno destroyed were paired together. And all the exempt universes were also paired universes.
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>>153940491
>Not bringing Future Trunks, who is strong enough to fight Goku Black. Also, they have TWO of them.
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>>153940912
The Angel tricked him in defeating the previous GoD and then said something like "Dude, now you are new god and your life is linked to greatest asshole in this universe"
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>>153941286
only if toriyama puts them in the manga it becomes canon, in the meantime they are just filler only to have more content in the videogames. They probably get a redesign
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>>153939900
>>153940133
If U7 were Africa, they'd be higher than they are.
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UNIVERSE POWER LEVELS
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>>153941147
I would be hyped if this was Universe 1s starting lineup
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>>153940451
>>153940502
>>153940515
>>153940539
Toppo will step out of line and get deleted by Zeno or the Grand Priest. Of course this will anger ayy lmao and they'll blame Goku for it.
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They are seriously too fucking cute together.
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>>153941286
>GT is still used heavily in the video games

Oh yeah, like how all of GT is just in parallel quests in XV2?
Or how in order to unlock the Shadow Dragons you need to gather the dragon balls four times?
SSJ4 is what is actually ''heavily used'' because its design is over the top and whoever works on stuff like Heroes/Xenoverse/Fusion/Dokkan likes to go over the top
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>>153941100
Let's say Broly, Buu, Turles and Lord Slug each destroys single GALAXY PER SECOND with no downtime on traveling or resting or anything. Non-stop galactic destruction. It would take only 38 thousand to 380 thousand years for them to wipe out the galaxy.
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Why are they inserting powerlevels again?
Like powerlevels were shown to be useless in old DBZ
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>>153941434
is toei intentionally putting these two together to provoke doujins?
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>>153941453
Wipe out the universe, not the galaxy. My bad, I suck dicks
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>>153939478
I can't help but notice that the non-participating universes are the ones with lazily designed characters (aside from fox GoD, he's kind of cool).
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>>153941474
quality average =/= power-levels

on average other universes have better races than Universe 7, regardless of how strong Goku is
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>>153941453
I thought there were only 4 galaxies in dragonball cosmology
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>>153941410
>No Goten ssj4

Is there a more jabroni saiyan?
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>4 universes excluded

I really thought this would be Super's last arc but now, maybe not. Just how long is this ride?
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>>153941453
>single GALAXY PER SECOND
Aren't their four galaxies in the DB universe
Also don't forget Buu and the PTO wiping out planets and races
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>>153939530
It's basically on par with the better DBZ episodes.
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>>153941517
150 episode minimum
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>>153941517
Until it stops making money
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>>153940365
>Mortal level 0.
zamasu did that in U7 not U10
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>>153941501
nah, they always just divided the universe in four sections
north kai watches over the north section of the universe etc...
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>>153941517
until Goku becomes powerful enough that Beerus fights him seriously.
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>>153941517
Nigga this shit is going to last probably as long as One Piece or more, I am pretty sure DB and One piece are the only things Toei has that are making $$$$ worldwide
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>>153939612
Have Elder Kai give them all the Mystic treatment, and then send them to Whis bootcamp.
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>Universes are worth ranked on the power level of its mortal populations
>Gohan publishes a fucking book telling the whole planet on how to master your ki
>Earth becomes the roster of the strongest race, invading timelines for shit and giggles

Not the hero we deserve, but the Hero we need.
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>>153941611
If the strongest a human can get is Krillin-tier then someone like Piccolo would erase all of them from existance in seconds
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>>153941453
>Underestimating Broly's maximum power
He would probably destroy the entire universe by the time he gets to his second year
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>>153941633

Son, do you know Xenoverse ? The average human slaps Berrus for breakfast.
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why didn't they give goku a senzu bean to cure his heart disease
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>>153941279
Yeah, there are some theories that he's the one actually responsible for the destruction of the universes
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>>153941674
cuz reasons
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>>153941633
Krillin is one of the strongest in the entire universes so if all the humans got to Krillin-tier
The universe powerlevel would probably be about 2000
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>>153941663
>A fucking video game
>which is also garbage compared to the PS2 ones
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>>153941674
Fucking speedread-
Wait, you don't even read Dragon Ball.
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>>153939681
He wanted a proper zenkai boost.

And he did won the match. Grand Priest is only here to entertain, show must go on.
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reminder that GT is canon
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>>153941555
>last probably as long as One Piece or more

This. Super is completely based on the Muliverse fan fiction series and we see how long that shit is.
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>>153940758
>Hit threw the match
>Auta Magetta and Botamo were defeated by ring out
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>>153941111
checked
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>>153941703
*lost
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>>153939851
>the fact that U7 has two goku tiered fighters, and a majin buu
I mean, holy jeeze. It's pretty obvious the only comparable team will be u11.
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>>153941700
Maybe, but unlike the PS2 games, he's the closest to canon.
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>>153940815
>Sorbet and his ring laser

He unironically fucked SSB Goku's shit tho
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>>153941703
>proper zenkai boost.
Why didn't Beerus resurrect the Saiyans and proceed to beat all of them to near death then have Whis use his magic to heal them and then repeat it until they got to over 7 in the powerlevel rankings
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>>153941700
I disagree, Xenoverse 2 has the best gameplay of any DB game ever
They only need to nerf stamina break
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>>153941753
Nigga Botamo and Magetta can easily beat Goku or vegeta. hit can probably straight up murder them (inb4 but goku vs hit rematch but manga yada yada
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>>153941561
Hell, just unlock potential would probably be enough.
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>>153941797
>hit can probably straight up murder them

Once you figure out Hits' hax power he's garbage.
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>>153941611
Then you'd have the Saiyan problem all over again. Humans with superpowers like that would just kill each other off and one planet isn't going to tip an average for a universe that much.

Universe 7 is already a chaotic universe and Frieza's family and empire falling apart, the Saiyan's getting wiped out and the vast number of other people Freeza killed lowered the universe's average.

Not to mention defeating Majin Buu.

If the goal was to keep a universe tough then Beerus failed miserably because saves planets based on how good their food is.
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>>153941797
Botama and Magetta can't do shit to Goku and Vegeta.

Hit has also been overcome by Goku.
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With a Supreme Kai, a Grand Supreme Kai, a God of Destruction, an Angel and literal God, why the hell did King Kai even exist in the first place?
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>>153939450
Its basically saying that they have lest ningens. If you have a trillion more ningens that outpowers some guy like Goku.
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>>153941836
>Once you figure out Hits' hax power he's garbage.

You forget the part where Hit can just powerup everytime his opponent seems stronger than him. Literally a free Zenkai without killing himself by just being around someone stronger. He is like Super 17
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>>153941674
They flat out say senzus don't cure diseases. The senzu would just make recover his health until top condition, and the virus would attack again.
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>>153941797
Maybe pre-zamasu you'd have a point about hit, but not anymore.
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>>153940279
That was an unsurprising bullshit cop out. Apparently they realized this was making Goku look like a dick and had to pull something out of their ass ala plotarmor.
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>>153941872
the king kais are minor deities, they are there to make the job of the supreme kai easier
also Zamasu used to be the north kai of U10 so that's kinda funny to compare him with U7's north king kai
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>>153941674
>>153941692
Friendly reminder the autistic retards in these threads haven't watched DB in years
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>>153941872
The Kais manage the galaxies, because they're too small for the Kaioshin to bother with. If you remember, King Kai said he never even saw a Kaioshin before.
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>>153941872
Honestly, it seems like the kaios are mostly an afterlife thing.
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>>153941783
- He's lazy.

- The universe selection is already done.

- It would take too much time.

- A planet of lazy fighters that jerk off beaming weak population to death.

The saiyans are a no-good race. The only reason the survivors are decent is Goku is an autist and Vegeta wants to be noticed.

The strong offspring is basically a collateral bonus, at this point.
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>>153941902
You can't write and animate and voice several episodes in under 3 weeks. This is all planned in advance.
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>>153940207
Only Future Trunks version of 17 and 18 were genocidal. These two were still villains, but never genocidal.
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>>153941756
Is this Black reacting to Time Breaker Bardock on his Godtube channel?
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>>153941902
You do realize that the plot of this arc is already all written, right?
It's not like they change things on a whim, they are following an outline
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Is it just me or did DBS get really good with this arc.
The stakes have never been higher, the fights are entertaining, and the animation isn´t even that bad!
I love it!
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>U7 wins the tournament
>They wish that everyone that died or got erased gets resurrected
>All the previous villains get resurrected including the Saiyans
>the Universes turn into a chaotic mess as everyone is alive again
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>>153939681
No point to it. He's not fighting for extinction yet. What should matter to him right now is to get stronger, not to win an exhibition match.
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>>153941952
If so, I completely understands his anti-ningen final solution.
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>>153941971
Did they already say what the tournament prize was? I think it can't be a wish from the Super Dragon Balls, because Zamasu destroyed those.
Also they only exist in Universes 6 and 7.
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>>153941663
>Xenoverse
>Fusions
>slapping Berrus for breakfast
As much as I'd like this, everytime we fight them we get some "THEY'RE HOLDING BACK 99% OF THEIR POWER, LOL I WASN'T TRYING" garbage. We'll probably still be in shill mode for them for the next few games.
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>>153940720
Buu you retard and maybe gohan and golden frieza.
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>>153941968
>The stakes have never been higher
>The Universe is at stake literally every Arc

What did he mean by this?
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>>153941971
Epic fanfic, where's the rest?
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>>153942014
They've said several times the prize is not getting erased
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>>153941971
If u6 is dead then the super dragonballs are gone. How the fuck would you wish them back? Namek dragonballs don't have that level of power.
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>>153941841
Dude, I don't write the wanking background of either the games or the series.

It's obvious DB universe is stupid. At this point, they must found stronger opponents, without adressing the fact that a saiyan is able to destroy his solar system by sneezing.
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>smile and optimism: gone
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>>153941968
Super got really good when the unironically best villain this franchise ever had got introduced
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>>153939815
But did he mean the average inhabitants or the average power of the inhabitants?
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>>153941941
>The saiyans are a no-good race
Vegeta is the new king just have him beat the Saiyans untill enough of them reach Super Saiyan level then kill the rest
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>Beerus triggered as fuck for U7 being the second lowest
>asleep all the time, destroys planets on a whim or lousy food
>blames his fucboi Kai

U7 GoD a shit.
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>>153939478
keep in mind basil and lavenda might not be in the roster if U9 consider better fighters
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>>153941968
last arc was fantastic
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>>153939820
Why? Goku is the only reason their Universe has a chance to exist. If it weren't because of him U7 would've been deleted long ago, only U1, U5, U8 and U12 would remain.
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who?
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>>153942088
average power of the inhabitants

niggers on average statistically commit more crimes in murrica, but does that make every black person a criminal?
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>>153942088
Power.
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>>153942096
At the same time the Supreme Kai should have given the weaker planets some sort of training to defend themselves against a galactic empire but didn't
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>>153942020
Yup, but hey, everytime the character fights a boosted villain, there's no bullshit on holding back.

Hell, just fightinh Beerus without being erased at the end prooves the powerlevel of the human race.
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Beerus and Supreme Kai shouldn't have been lazy fucks and worked on making the universe stronger.
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>>153942024
>What did he mean by this?
I think even Kid Buu and Zamasu would have taken a long time to destroy the entire universe.

Not to mention that Zeno isn´t just going to destroy universe 7, but a bunch of others as well, with just the flick of a finger at that.
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>>153942127
goku mother
>>>/vg/
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>>153942096
Well Shin could've done better work tbqh. He shouldn't have allowed Frieza to destroy all the strongest beings in the universe for instance
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>>153942051
They already collected them for the tournament, so even if U6 is erased, they can use the balls one last time to bring back the universes.
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>>153942064
>Kaioshin, being a God of Creation, learns to cook
>He is pretty fucking good
>Adventures where Shin and Beerus constantly bicker.
>Shin always makes a meal at the end of the episode

It'll happen.
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>>153942080
Well, I think Zamasu makes a better impression in the manga.
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>Universes are ranked on power level of mortal populations
It's funny because "farmer with a shotgun" is 5.

If 3 is the average, do the math. Surprisingly it's probably not the Earth holding the universe back.
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>>153942148
Zamasu has to be the biggest retard in the universe having a plan of killing all ningen in his universe and giving his universe's average non-god power level rating a 0.

He was doomed to fail no matter what.
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>>153942093
Honestly, destroying planet Vegeta is why Freezer should have been send to heaven. But he did it out of fear for his ass, not for the general good, plus he's a sadistic bitch, so here we go.
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>>153942134
The Kais and Kaioshin don't bother with the affairs of mortals. King Kai said during both the Saiyan and Freeza sagas that he shouldn't have played favorites, and only helped the Earthlings because he thought Goku was worthy (remember he taught him Kaioken and Spirit Bomb).

Kaioshin intervened in the Majin Boo affair because:
- he killed other Kaioshins
- he was going to destroy everything

Freeza was just a galactic tyrant. He wouldn't kill everyone.
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>>153941968
Still shit compared to Z.
There were only two decent fights in DBS:
Goku vs Hit and
Zamasu vs Vegito
In 80 fucking episodes
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>>153942096
Both of them should've done better work. They're both at fault for the shitty average. Beerus for sleeping, destroying planets on a whim and making deals with genocidal shitbags like Frieza, instead of 'hakai'ing them.

While the Kaioshin should've done more to have a hand in ningen development, allowing them to unlock their potential, etcetera.

Both should've also done a better job at communicating and synchronizing their activities, which they might possibly do now. They are communicating now, and they've both been made aware of what a shit job they've been doing.
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>>153942080
>Meme villain
>Best

Uh, sure
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>>153942185
Zeno has his own ranking system that far surpasses the powerlevels of the scouters, I would guess.
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>>153942096
Don't forget
>Let's Buu destroy galaxies and kill Kais without even lifting a finger
>Get's surprised when his universe is almost the weakest one
Beerus a shit who decided to make him a God of destructio?
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>>153942179
Anime Zamasu was already good but Manga Zamasu is even better
>abusing zenkai boosts with someone who can constantly heal you
Fucking based
I just wish he used the fucking ki sword already since it's his fucking singnature move
Also manga Zamasu doesn't Shinichiro Miki's 10/10 voice-acting
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>>153942064
Look at that cheeky bastard whis. He knew the entire time too.
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>>153942198

Isn't Kaioshin a noob since the actual U7 Supreme Kai was either the fat guy absorbed by Buu or the geezer trapped in a sword?
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>>153942185
Maybe Grand Priest is using different scale. Also humans are not so weak - just look at tenkaichi budokai - there were fighters on par with young Goku and Kuririn there.
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>>153942127
>Her marriage to Bardock was a happy one
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>>153942201
I enjoyed the last two fights with the furries.
They were short and crisp.
DB villains shouldn´t overstay their welcome.
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>>153940157
No, that won't happen. I think they'll job against another Universe that will later fight against U7. With the 4 Universes excluded, we have now a perfect amount of 8 Universes fighting.
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>>153942246
From the time Boo was sealed by Bibidi to the start of Dragon Ball, it's 5 million years or something.
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But this mustache is canon, right?
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>>153939433
Just got donw watching buu fuck up Basil shit.

Next episode has chokehan fighting lavender and i'm curious if they actually have him any stronger than he was when he got 1 shoted by Frieza in revival of F.

Also, DBZ super still looks like shit most of the time animation wise.
Hell, some of the shots they showed from gohan for the episode looked like hot ass.
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>>153942129
Yes.
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>>153940207
You forgot Goku. And no, I'm not about the memes, but before he hit his head he was supposed to be a genocide on his own. He simply went to the light force before he started killing.
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So what stops other universes to evacuate to U1, U12, U5 and U8 now?
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>>153942231
He and Vados probably see it as a good wake-up call to Beerus and Champa. They've now been made aware of the shit job they've been doing, as well as the Kaioshin.

So now they can actually up their act. Already, Beerus and Kaioshin have been communicating more than ever before, and they seem to get along fairly well, so this might actually be a turning point for U7 as a universe, and maybe U6, too.
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>>153942278
>Sayians are supposed to age slower
>Vegeta literally looks like a 50 year old men while being 60

GT was such a mess
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>>153942064
I love how close they've gotten. Shin doesn't even shirk in fear when Beerus snarls at him.
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>>153940157
Don't worry it will turn out that the furries were actually the weakest and there was a much stronger guy who didn't come because he was lazy or something
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>>153942281
>dbz super
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>>153940257
Well, those furfags will literally yiff in non-existance, so it's fine either way.
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>>153942281
>DBZ super
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>>153942328
>>153942339
He's a mobilefag, it can't be helped.
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>>153942064
I like that these two are developing a chemistry.
They are both equally responsible for the balance of the universe afterall.
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>>153942185
I'm guessing they're operating on a ten point scale, considering the exempt universes have an average of at least seven.
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>>153942302
Nothing
It's probably what's going to happen if they don't wish the universes back
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>>153940937
I don't think universes in Dragon Ball are as big as the universes in real life.
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>>153942350
>everyone I don't like is a mobilefag!
this is getting embarrassing
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>rating universes only by how powerful their inhabitants are
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>>153942302
Multiversal travel can only be done by Angels
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>>153942170
Fuck that, I want a show with Gowasu and Rumoosh
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>>153942281
>DBZ super
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>>153940351
Actually, Grand Priest knows that Zen-Oh will start acting spoiled if there's no third match, that's why he called it a draw. That's the pottery of the episode, Gohan actually won, but he wasn't declared winner.
The asshole behind all this is Zen-Oh. HE was the one who wanted to erase the Universes to begin with. It feels as if the GP simply wants to save his family and doesn't give a fuck about the rest. It's not ideal, but at least he's a good dad.
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>>153942397
actually the supreme kais too can do it
they can teleport literally anywhere they wish
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>>153939952
The tournament's structure suggests so.
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>>153942185
>Average universe power level
Hercule is a 22 during the Buu saga if that puts non-ki based martial artists into perspective.
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I´m glad that this isn´t just going to be the "Goku and Vegeta"-Show anymore.
They should´ve included more from the entire cast from the start.
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>>153942393
Daily reminder that it's all Chi-chi fault. Average would much higher if Gohan and Goten would reach SSJB. But no >muh study was more important
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>>153942391
Then clean that grammar up, faggot. The thread isn't going anywhere.
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>>153942410
>people said Zeno represents the viewers
>Zeno/viewers want to see Goku fight
>Zeno/viewers want to see Gohan not win
>Grand Priest represents Toriyama who has to accomodate to the viewers

P O T T E R Y
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>>153942281

>DBZ Super
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>>153942431
>I´m glad that this isn´t just going to be the "Goku and Vegeta"-Show anymore.
It never was.
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>>153942427
Cite sources
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>>153942431
it will be towards the end
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>>153942431
>>153942457
Zamasu saga was Future Trunks' show tbqh
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>>153942398
why not both?
and elder kai should be there too
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>>153942397
Kaioshins can do it too. Remember when Whis told Goku it was faster to reach Zen-oh's palace if he went with Kaioshin. That's because Angels are very fast, but they can't teleport.
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>>153942278
I bet there was such a shitstorm in Japan when GT started, and people saw what they did with Vegeta's design (on top of everything else wrong with GT, that is). Clearly, enough people were bothered by it to make him shave the mustache later on.
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>Angels get spared

Fucking nepotism man
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>>153942451
What do the angels represent then?
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>>153942434
Yes, two extremely powerful fighters will raise the rating created by billions upon billions of weak ningen.

Averages, learn about them.
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>>153942434
chichi is your typical asian mother who wants their son to be someone important aka a doctor, she gives 0 fucks about earth safety since that is not part of the curriculum
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>>153940515
A few weeks ago they were saying that the clown was a crib robber. Their stupidity never ceases to amaze me.
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>>153942467
>goku has children
>has never kissed
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>>153942458
This, don't know how accurate it is, pretty much just googled and went with whatever sounded about right, it makes sense he'd be 4 times stronger than an ordinary human though:

http://dragonball.neoseeker.com/wiki/Official_Power_Levels
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>>153942488
I want to punch this fag Whis so hard now
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>>153942475
>Zamasu saga was Future Trunks' show tbqh
More like Future Trunks Bullshit Genkidama show
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>>153942484
I read somewhere that Toriyama's own daughter said Vegeta with a mustache was terrible. That's why it's Bra that lays the verbal smackdown on Vegeta.
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>>153942129
oh you're here too huh, /pol/?
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>>153942517
why? angels can always find a new GoD, Zeno just need to create a new universe and done. Angles aren't expendable as everyone below them are
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>>153942498
It would. SSJB is like 100 quadrillion - two beings with that kind of power would certainly make a difference
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>inb4 U10 has the highest rating among those under 7.00
>inb4 U10's rating is 6.99
>Gowasu really is the most competent Supreme Kai
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>>153942434
More like Frieza is biggest offender, the one who destroyed almost all saiyans.
They could go on about their business otherwise, raping whatever they find and making stronger babies.
Maybe then, the average would be kinda higher.
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>>153942129
le parenthesis you parenthesis
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>>153942434
Imagine this:
Goku's PL is 1 billion.
There are 7 billion "common" people on Earth. Their PL is 5.
What is the average of 7 billion people with the PL of 5, plus one guy with the PL of 1 billion? It's nowhere near 1 billion.
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>>153942517
>Has been hanging around with Beerus for fuck-knows-how-long
>Doesn't seem to give a shit at the risk of their death
I actually feel bad for Beerus, which is strange considering I view the shit he's done on almost the same level as Frieza.
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>tfw Eugenics could have saved U7 from destruction
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>tournament deciding fate of the universe
>invite turtle hermit
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>>153942517
how can ningen even compete?
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>>153942584
DELET
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>>153942553
>/pol/

My opinions are literally the opposite of that board's, citing statistics isn't racist. It is when you use them to make a generalized statement without even trying to research the reason why statistics are the way they are (in this case: shitty ghetto culture)
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>>153940711
Are you for fucking real? Piccolo became a lot stronger than the androids when he fused with Kami. Dabura is Cell level, that means, quite stronger than the androids.
Unless they overpower both 17 and 18 like fuck, they are weaker than Piccolo and Dabura for sure.
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>>153942555
Not who you're talking with but (most) humans mourn even their 'lowly' pets.
This is some twisted shit.
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>>153942610
Beerus's change and development has been pretty amazing. I love him.
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>>153942625
>statistics
Right, because we know that applies to all people of a particular group.
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>>153942127
>No OVA about Gine and Bardock
>Will never see Bardock's team teasing him as Gine keeps following him around like a lost puppy
>Will never see Bardock constantly pull her ass out of the fire because poor fighter or not, she's a comrade, and he'll never turn his back on his comrades
>Will never have Bardock carry a baby Raditz in his arms
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>>153940491
>>153940810
PLfags don't even know how to spell Frieza.
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>>153942555
He literally gives zero fucks about Beerus and Kais dying. He literally knows them for millions years. What the fuck is wrong with him?
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>>153942508
>virgins from /a/ think you need to kiss a woman to make her pregnant
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>>153942393
They are rated not only by that but the QoL in the overall.

Basically, Zamasu was kinda right, Kaioshin shouldn't be that passive when it comes to watch over the universe.
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>>153942625
>>153942676
Don't turn this into a /pol/ thread
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>>153942278
Super's are better. They come with BEARDS.
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>>153942508
>Goku was actually raped by Chi-Chi
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>>153942508
Chi-chi raped him. You know it's true
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>>153942610
I wanna hug Egyptian Housecat of Destruction now.

I mean, knowing Whis, it's not so much that he doesn't care, but that he does believe U7 can win, and that at the same time, the realization that Beerus did a shit job might be a wake-up call for him.
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>>153940828
Why should they be glad? It would make no difference. Even if their average were to be 0.1, they'd still have Goku, Vegeta, Buu and Gohan fighting for survival.
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>>153942647
>>153942689

they are angles, they been living longer than the universe itself perhaps. From their perspective, they've seen so many life lost they probably unflinched by something so common to happen in front of them, is just a casualty
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>>153942676
I have literally just told you about the difference of group average and individuals of a group
Let's use this for Universe 7 for example: you have a few individuals who are really strong like Goku... but what about all the other mortals of the universe?
On average, due to the incompetence of Shin and Beerus, Universe 7 has shitty fighters.
All the universes above U7 simply have tons of people who are around Goku's level
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>4 universes are not participating despite what the teaser preview showed
>Ayyy changed to toppo
>Gokus actions justified once again
This shit was rewritten last second wasn't it?
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>>153942709
>>153942710
RAPEMIND
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>>153942491
Muh dick
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>>153942701
Tell that to the faggots bringing up real-world issues. Then again, the average shit in DB threads now isn't any better.

>>153942729
I wasn't the anon you replied to originally.
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REMINDER THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN ZENO CREATE ANYTHING, ONLY DESTROY. HE IS THE ULTIMATE GOD OF DESTRUCTION.

DAISHINKAN IS HIS ATTENDANT

ZALAMA IS THE REAL GOD OF CREATION (who actually created dragonballs)
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>>153942733
of course, goku can't be seen as the bad guy
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>>153942686
>Implying bardock cares about Raditz
Raditz was a failure and that's why Bardock acts like he doesn't exist
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>>153939433

Wait a minute. Is Zeno implying that physically weak races don't deserve to live?
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>>153940870
It depends on what the writers want. If Vegeta achieved it and Trunks developed god ki, there's no reason why Gohan couldn't at least use god ki as well. It's very easy to justify, you put him in a corner and make him be the one who decides the fate of U7 in one of the matches, he powers up because he has to protect his family. There.
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>>153942758
>ZALAMA
Who?
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>>153942729
>All the universes above U7 simply have tons of people who are around Goku's level
I doubt it. More so, they have more planets with mortals that are more powerful than, say, humans, who couldn't even take care of Raditz.

Yes, other universe have Goku-tier fighters, that's logical, but those are just as much outliers as Goku is.
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>>153942589
So basically, rape is the answer to universe survival.
Pretty deep.
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>>153942775
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>>153942775
Do you have any problem with that whiteboi?
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>>153942775
bingo bongo poopy poo, here's your (you)
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>>153942729
>All the universes above U7 simply have tons of people who are around Goku's level

Not really since the rating also takes QoL in acooount, they might arround SS level though.
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>>153942775
Races of lesser development.
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>>153942723
Perhaps the Angels are just tired. Remember that they don't sleep so they're literally awake for millions upon millions of years, or at least til their GoD is kill. Maybe this thing is a whole set up so they can finally be put to rest.
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>>153942733
>>153942760
QFT.
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>>153942806
>niggerstream strikes again
WE
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>>153942729
Or to make a real world example without bringing politics shit
You have a few humans who were amazing geniuses, like Einstein.
But when you look at it these truly great humans you'll notice how they represent the literal 0.00001% of the entire human population
Goku is a prodigy but he is the 0.00001% of his universe

>>153942795
Yeah you worded it better
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>>153942733
The dragon Ball room didn't want goku be seen as a bad guy or wrong so they just excluded the 4 universes and put the blame on the child again. That and it serves as an easy way out if they decide to continue the series

But yes it was definitely rewritten from Toriyamas original drafts
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>>153942758
Zalama? Amalaz? Lazama? Azalam?
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>oh so actually, there are fewer but more powerful fighters in U7 exactly because it's such a crappy place, so they had to struggle to thrive..I see.. I guess I'll have to eliminate all the universes with a higher average ningen power level, then!
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>>153942775
Zeno is literally Hitler.
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>>153942758
seriously why didn't anybody realize this sooner? or is zalama going to be just a scrub god? where is his place in hierarchy?
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>>153942872
SALAMI
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>>153942760
>>153942830
>>153942864
Why don't we just wait and see?
Especially if you look at the premise for the next episode and episode title for the episode after
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>>153942829
or just tired to be babysitters, too, guess the earth's food was just a temporary pleasure for Whis

>>153942830
QFT?
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>>153942872
LASAGNA?
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>>153942758
I'd be on board with that
>the absolute god who created everything in Dragon Ball is a dragon
it would be pottery
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>>153942508

Goku is a good boy who has sex with ChiChi with a hole in the sheets so they don't have to look at each other.
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>>153942775
RIP Zamasu
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>>153942890
I would hope so because this pretty much kills the hype
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>>153942890
It's easier to shitpost and meme than it is to use rational thought. Kids will be kids.
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>>153942897
Quoted for truth.
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>universe average power level
>someone decided the db fanbase didn't have enough random numbers to be autistic over
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>>153942935
nigga from what it looks like the next two episodes are gonna be about Goku having a chance not to have universes being erased and wasting it because muh saiyan fight instincts
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>>153939891
>Whis literally laughs in Beerus' face
>"Enjoy your tournament, you fucking ningens."
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So will Beerus and Kaioshin do a better job after this tournament, or will they get away having learned nothing?
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>>153939771
>>153939771
>Helles gonna fuckin' die ;-;

Better get the most out of it...
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MORTAL LEVEL DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH POWER LEVEL YOU STUPID FUCKS
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>>153942971
>power level
It's ningen level, which is clearly different somehow. If "regular farmer" is 5, I don't think 4 universes would be exempted from fighting just for having an average PL over 7.
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>>153942935
>somehow it's not hype anymore because goku isn't the badguy like in your head

It was pretty fucking clear that everyone interpreting this as the goku gone bad arc was reaching.

Hell I expected a rush of "look goku such an asshole he won't even help his son!"
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>>153941081
>it's hard to tell who's genuinely stupid or just joking on this website
There's much truth to this words.
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I thought the Mortal Level rating meant races that simply weren't good quality high in all aspects, not just fighting but also other advancements such as culture or technologies.

As in, even though U7 Saiyans were supposedly one of the more dangerous races in the universe, because they were so primitive, their strength wouldn't really matter but might even be detrimental to the mortal rating.
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>>153942984
I think Whis sees it more as a lesson for Beerus. He's been saying all along that Beerus is doing a shitty job, and every time, Beerus just laughed it away or told him to shut up.

So if he has to find out like this, maybe this kind of threat will actually give him the motivation to do his job right.
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why are there gods of destruction in universes where life is low
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>>153943039
So it's basically the Zamasu rating?
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>tournament of power
>more like tournament of the losers, am I right?
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>>153942775
I think its more about Supreme kais and gods of destruction are lazy FUCKS who didn't do their jobs compared to the other ones.
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Gohan match was meh but the afterward banters were top kek.
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>>153943040
>"Enjoy your dead brother, you fucking ningen."
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>>153941190
Ok. I won't. So let's change subject. How's the weather whenever you live?
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>>153942887
He was Zeno's dad
Daishinkan killed him because his son is easier to control
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>they are still falling for this shit
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>>153943066
It can't be a tournament of losers if you're not there, Yamcha.
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>>153943039
that's why Chichi was right with Gohan and will be with Goten

Chichi haters BTFO
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>>153941242
Pink Panther SSJ never looked great to begin with.
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>>153943033
Not even the goku bit. I mean the dumb 4 universe exclusion
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>>153940306
the face of being in a scene that will be redrawn on dvd because the dumb ass interns drew in their own style instead of using the style sheet.
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>>153943039
>Tournament of POWER
>Surely it means they are testing everything but POWER
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>>153943089
True, that's still pretty shitty,
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>>153942935
>Goku isn't an epic villain like in my theories, this kills the hype :(
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>>153942789
Creator of the super dragon balls, said to be a dragon god.
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The 4 univeres aren't going to be excluded. When Doggo says if he wins no universes should get nuked, Goku is going to say if he wins, every universe should have to fight and it's no fun if he can't see all the strong guys
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>>153943141
>universe ruled by an intergalactic perv and a purple cat that all he does is sleeping and eating
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>>153943110
He's going to give his opponent senzu beans, isn't he?
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>>153940466
He is the fanbase, who just wants to see fight after fight
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>>153943118
>Hating Yamcha
He's best Z fighter
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>>153943196
Toei got some good weed
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>>153943195
>Goku
>being this retarded

Come on, guys, there's no way that he's THIS much of a fighting autist. This is exactly what's going to happen, isn't it?
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>>153943217
>WEED LMAO
leave this site underaged faggot
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>>153940466
Niggastream "re-write" of Zeno was top-tier.
Original Zeno is shit.
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>>153943121
He should have kept the piccolo inspired Gi.
The whole "HONORABLE FATHER LOOK AT HOW STRONG I GOT WHILE TRAINING WITH MY REAL FATHER!! I MEAN TEACHER!!"
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>>153943153
>the hype is gone now we know that there's potentially 4 universes where the standards are twice as high meaning that there could well be people twice as strong as goku
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>>153941633
No. Krillin, Roshii, Tien and even Piccolo were quite stronger than Frieza's soldiers, but they were starting to tire up and to lose. If millions of Earthlings were as strong as Krillin Piccolo would kill many thousands, but eventually he would be defeated.
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>>153943341
Not how it works, nigger.
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>>153941783
Did Beerus even know there were such rankings to begin with?
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>>153941885
Not that Anon, but his free Zenkai might eventually reach a limit.
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>>153941887
Why didn't they gather the Dragon Balls to cure him? Ok, they can't resurrect you if you died of natural causes, but cure you? I don't see a reason why they won't. And if they can't cure you because that would interfere with the natural process, what's their point to begin with and why was Pan cured in Super?
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>>153943226
Nah, after Goku wins he makes a bet with Zeno. If Goku&friends win against all the other 4 universes left, no one gets deleted.
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>>153942488
>the party cares for its members
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>>153943195

>The rest of U7 gets to know and respects the other members of the other Universes

>Goku gets to choose whether or not he will continue to fight the 4 strongest Universes, or spare the others his friends have befriended

>Gotta fite strong guys.
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>>153942633
Android 18 was stronger than two super saiyans and she was holding back.

Android 17 wasn't able to hit piccolo as hard as he hit him, but his strategy was to outlast piccolo, because he had unlimited stamina. This means as soon as piccolo started to get worn out android 17 could sweep him.

DBZ fight logic is more like a power matrix, like most anime, and they only focus on power level because toriyama's too lazy to make a skill sheet for everyone. Speed, Power Level, Stamina, Durability (Regeneration), Ki Control (Techniques, Form upkeep), and Growth Potential (and the ability to raise power level) are what I would use to measure fighters in Z. It would give a better comparison chart for who's better than who, since as of Super, power levels aren't as important as they used to be, and end up being only one aspect of whether someone can win or not.

Someone like piccolo would have great durability, near perfect ki control, decent speed, low stamina, decent potential, and an above average power level. This is why he's able to manage against frost despite being old by this point.

Vegeta and Goku have tons of Power, Tons of Potential, average to weak ki control, great speed, poor durability, and average to poor stamina. They're able to fight with insane god ki, but they always become drained by the end of fights and can only handle one strong opponent at a time. (I'd say Vegeta has a much lower potential than Goku, but better Ki Control, so goku would still win usually)

Shit like that, to me, is far more interesting than just one number, and reflects how fights actually play out with characters who aren't just basic bitch fighters.

Freeza has insane power and potential, but never worked on ki control and has weak stamina. His speed is average and his durability is low. This shit's fun.

Buu has great power, low potential, low speed, extremely high durability and regeneration. low ki control, and moderate stamina so long as he's fed and isn't tired
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>>153940828
>A few people can grow the average of trillions

If anything destroying them increases the average you fucking retard
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>>153943710
Someone like hit, who has time control abilities, I'd classify as having low overall stats, good potential, and his time control could be expressed as having higher than maximum speed, meaning that as long as he can use his abilities, he can rely on them to win, despite having very few other traits to back them up.

Botamo has fantastic durability but fuck all anything else.

Cabba has average to low overall stats, but decent potential. (I could keep doing this, it feels like it'd be fun to try to map these powers out to everyone throughout the series, and I feel these six stats express every aspect of DBZ fights throughout all the series)
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>>153942379
Or there might even be other factors. Perhaps it's quantity multiplied by PL. So, just as an example, a Universe with 10 inhabitants with PL 2 would rank higher than a Universe with 2 inhabitants with PL 9.
The fact is that they didn't make it clear still. Yet everyone acts as if it was already a fact.
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>>153941517
I just hope we eventually get to skip past end of z so we could get a serious fighter version of pan who takes after goku like end of z implied! (GT had good designs but did fuck all interesting with the saiyan daughters!)
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>>153941517
They said this is a 'mortals universe only' tournament? Am I misunderstanding or it's maybe even other universes even more powerful populated by immortal races?
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>>153944101
The universes that were excluded was because their mortals are super strong on average, not because their inhabitants are immortals
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>>153942451
Same shit was said about Evangelion with Asuka representing the viewers, Shinji representing Anno or some bullshit like that.
In other words, people is a retarded bunch.
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>>153942592
5.14
And if you add a second one then it's 5.29
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>>153944335
Shinji definitely represents Anno. Asuka being the viewer is bs. the closest of that is Shinji himself, or Maya when providing commentary.
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>>153942696
So Chi Chi got the prostitute treatment from Goku?
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>>153942864
Same thing happened with original Dragon Ball Z all the time, so I don't see where's the big deal.
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The universe ratings are worthless
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>>153943033
I never said he was the bad guy, but what did baffle me was that as far as they knew he was the reason Universes would be obliterated and he didn't seem to care.
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>>153939433
does the PL ranking of the universe actually mean they are a how much stronger they are then other universes? I thought it just ment that they have more stronger people or the average is higher.
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>>153944836
No one knows. Last week Goku was a genocide and everyone was blaming him. Now it turns out the only reason one of the Universes will still have a chance to survive is Goku to begin with.
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>>153945010
The secret words are : "Bad writing"
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>>153943110
Glad I'm not the only one who knew this was a terrible, horrifying thing to do. Goku literally levels these things in the bathroom and feeds them to evil solar system busters.

Supreme Kai just gave threw their universe into the shitter here, I cringed when he handed Goku those fucking magic beans.
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