DRAGON BALL SUPER

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Toei Goku is still a shit

>>153926982
I am sorry I ever doubted him.

Can Zeno-chan create new universes?

ATTENTION POWERLEVELFAGS
The quality of universes has nothing to do with powerlevel. What grand priest meant is that universes with high quality of ningens are very advanced civilisation. Since beerus is a lazy fuck who sleeps there is a lot of cancer in his universe like evil.
Imagine a board having shit mods. The quality of the board drops. Thats it.

>>153927064
Toei Goku isn't canon so who cares

>>153926982
Rikeeru the Fox the best GoD.

>>153926982
I never had a doubt
BASED GOKU

>>153926982
Thanks Goku you're boredom and thirst for battle saved your universe

So are universes 1, 12, 5, and 8 just not going to join the tournament, they have to join but they don't have to worry about getting erased, or they can join if they want but don't have to but either way they won't be erased?

power creep is bullshit

>>153926982
Recolor his hair red and his pants and he looks like crono

GOKU SAVED (a) UNIVERSE BITCHES

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>>153926737
>>153926737
>>153926737

real thread

>average matters
A universe only need a few strong fighters to win this tournament, it makes no difference if U7 is has the lowest or the highest average

>>153927103
>ningens are very advanced civilisation
I get your point but they never explicitly state this about "advanced civilization"

Without a Tournament Trunks U7 will be suddenly erased

if not in his lifetime him and Mai's decedents will be erased alongside all the U7 Kais and GoDs

F Trunks life is suffering

>>153927139
if they join and win then that means the other universes not stated automatically get blown the fuck up. thats stupid. That means theyre joining to genocide universes basically

>>153927103
Also Beerus has destroyed a lot of advanced civilizations just because they had shit food.

This all started because the 2 Zenos were talking to each other and together they decided there are too many universes. If Goku didn't bring Future Zeno to the present, this never would have happened, as proven by Trunks timeline where the Universe is still around

It's still Goku's fault.

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I'm sorry I ever doubted you Goku. You're a beautiful man incapable of wrongdoing.

>>153927103
Zamasu did nothing wrong. He would save his universe.

>>153927193
Winner also gets super dragon balls.

>>153927139
>Universe 1/12/5/8 wins the tournament
>none universe of the worst universes are spared and Zeno destroy them

>>153927135
>>153927208
I dont get it

why are you guys making goku sound like the good guy?

To think I was once proud of our U7.

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>>153926982
>Alright, so...Universe 1, 12, 5, and 8 are exempt from the Tournament of Power, because the average quality of mortals in them is so high...

>The average "quality" of planets with mortals in each universe is rated. U9 is the worst with a score of 1.86, and U7 second worst with 3.18

>Meanwhile, U1/12/5/8 all clock in at over 7. The Tournament of Power is really just an excuse to wipe out all the crappy universes.

>So the winning universe is spared as a reward. Omni-King often said there were too many universes, so Goku's idea just gave him an excuse.

>All of the gods in the losing universes will be destroyed along with the mortals. Only the angels will be spared. Good for Whis and Vados.

>They don't really specify what level they're ranking universes on, but there's nothing said about strength. Probably just overal "quality".

>Beerus is mad at Kaioshin for insisting on having mortals improve their planets through their own efforts. That's why U7's score is so low!

>Kaioshin in turn blames Beerus for sleeping all the time.

>Oh, and the universe who loses this current Omni-Present Match won't be destroyed, since it's not part of the tournament proper.

Your kaioshin and god of destruction doing shitty jobs

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ONLY FAGGOTS EVER THOUGHT UNIVERSE 7 WAS STRONGER THAN UNIVERSE 6

UNIVERSE 6 HAS:

>Metalmen and Yellow Bears who can tank the saiyan monkeys attacks
>A Frieza stronger than Frieza who is also a cheating jew who uses poison
>A planet full of saiyans stronger than regular saiyans, and they just discovered the SSJ
>HITTO
>Vados

Champa is the most based God of Destruction and deserves to live.

>>153927103
Except he fucking stated it was based on power

I hate powerlevels but you know that is wrong

>>153927177
Beerus and shin blaim each other for not doing their jobs. With shin saying beerus didnt wait for other planets to advance and that he was always sleeping.

>>153927139
It's to make number good for tournament
You need 2,4,8 or 16 participants for tournament.
12-4=8

>>153927204
Zen-oh would've eventually gotten around to destroying universe 7. Gods who have been around for thousands of years can take their time on doing things. Goku really just gave their universe an out.

>>153926982

Oh look Goku got lucky again. It would be a shame for him ever to have consequences for his actions

>>153927257
We all have to thank Broly for wiping out that Galaxy.

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>>153927266
Why is he so sexy?

>>153926982
real question C17 still gonna be smug right?

>>153927274
>Except he fucking stated it was based on power
No he didnt.

>>153927204
>This all started because the 2 Zenos were talking to each other and together they decided there are too many universes.

No
>"Omni-King often said there were too many universes"
That's probably the reason why Zeno deleted 6 universes in the past, he just wanted to do the same now

>>153927283
What if the good universes just get seeded like other tournaments who can't fill out those numbers, and they just get an instant pass to the second round?

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>>153927328
You tell me.

>>153927266
>>153927309
I hope he lives somehow, even if he just moves to U6

Keep best kitty alive

>>153927266
Well, Hitto could defeat literally everyone but Beerus on U7, or course U6 is stronger.

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>>153927103
>What grand priest meant is that universes with high quality of ningens are very advanced civilisation.
If this is true, then
>U12 were the first to discover time travel
so we already knew they have advanced civilizaitions.

Goku, you idiot smfh

>>153927330
Beerus was mad the Kai's didn't help advance the mortals. The rating is based on power and quality.

>>153927233
setting up for goku wishing them all back. lmao. I swear one of the angels is going to get one shot by goku by the end of this. I hope its whis.

He just nonchalantly laughed at the thought of his universe ceasing to exist

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LAZY INCOMPETENT CAT
Someone needs to appoint new GoD for u7

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>tfw your universe gets destroyed but thats ok because now you don't have to go to work

>>153927371
Not in the manga.
Goku> Hit

>>153927330
The sub I watched he said "Zeno has ranked the universes based on their average power"

>>153927251
Because dumb fucks like you are portraying him as a villain

>Zenos love the tournament so fucking much that they let Goku restore the 18 universe situation.

How will this NOT happen?

>>153927274
>yfw the average would be a lot higher if Beerus didn't order the extermination of the saiyans for giving him a shit pillow

>>153927371
>>153927403
Goku also tied with Hit a couple months ago.

>>153927420
but toriyama statet himself in a inteview that goku is not a good guy

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>Zeno-sama is moved after seeing shitty universes can put such a fight

inb4: Zeno will realize all the universes have their value and won't hakai anyone.

>>153927187
I rather doubt he thought his planet and lineage would exist forever, we certainly don't think so of our own planet for example

>>153927384
>Beerus was mad the Kai's didn't help advance the mortals
With their civilisation. Zeno also blamed beerus for sleeping so much and not doing his job. Thus people like frieza and the sayians could conquer planets and enslave them.

>>153926982
accept my apology goku-san

>>153927371
Hit was getting BTFO by Goku in both anime and manga. He's no match anymore, Goku tied him in the rematch without relying on Kaioken

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Post winners

>>153927445
>>153927460
this plot is shit

>>153927402
Where will he get his kush, though?

>>153927401
Agreed Beerus is a piece of shit.

>Saiyan's have unlimited potential
>only ZAMASU smart enough to take advantage of this
Filthy ningens

>>153927460
He'll hakai them but let goku wish them back.

>>153927266
>Metalmen and Yellow Bears who can tank the saiyan monkeys attacks
Universe 7 has Metalmen too, retard. I'm pretty sure they have yellow bears too.

>>153926600
I saw it already, but I don't think I can already assume it is the only explanation. Sure, it makes sense, but I think there could be more to it.
Daishinkan never said anything about advanced civilizations, people are only assuming it means that because of Beerus arguing with Shin, but I also got the impression Daishinkan was talking about powerlevels from what Daishinkan said to U7 and U9 about their universes being of the lowest quality and from the reaction of others in the fanbase I'm not the only one who thought the same thing at first.
An explanation is that Quality takes into account many things, like both powerlevel and advancements. Overall "quality, like Herms said:
>They don't really specify what level they're ranking universes on, but there's nothing said about strength. Probably just overal "quality".

Also, I think it is possible nothing was confirmed because Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro want it to be left ambiguous for future arcs.
Either way, U1, U5, U8 and U12 won't be participating.
A shame, but I suppose they had to find a way to leave some universes out of it and they did in an quite interesting way.

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>>153927445
>YFW Goku strikes a deal with the Zenos to let the people from the destroyed universe to be brought to universe 7.

>>153927412
Well better trust herms twitter or official crunchy roll

that soundtrack
resurrection f(aulconer)

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Reminder that Zamasu did nothing wrong.

Also, Gowasu a shit.

All I want is for some Kaioshin to dress down Grand Priest or Zeno before he goes. Either that or a Husband and Wife GoD team / Two-Sentient-Headed GoD (but I'm too late on that)

>>153927445
>Goku restore the 18 universe situation.
Wonder what it would be like? Would life return?

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>>153927402
I want to hear him speak.

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>>153927514

>>153927402
Angels are literally the master race of all existence.

>>153927457
>listening to toriyama
>ever

stop

>>153927535
Nah, Rou is too magnificent to be the kai not in charge.

>>153927384
>Beerus was mad the Kai's didn't help advance the mortals.
I thought they were only supposed to watch, freaking Zamasu did nothing wrong then

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What are the angels up to?

My bet is that the Grand Priest is trying to become the next Zeno and for some reason he has to destroy a few universes to do so.

>>153927566
I assume the Super Dragon Balls would just bring them back to right before they were destroyed.

>>153927484
Frieza conquering planets is just natural selection, the superior more powerful lifeform will always dominate over the weaklings this is a fact of life dumbass.

Fuck, only 8 universes are going to fight. What a disappointment.

>>153927606
>Listening to anything Gowasu says
Elder Kai didn't have any problems interfering with mortal affairs

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>>153927559
Gowasu and Zamasu are my two favorite Super Characters. Crazy Kaioshin is my favorite character of this arc. Can't stand Reddit-oh, though.

>>153927528
U1 U5 U8 and U12 not participating pretty much guarantees that this won't be the last arc in Super.

I'm willing to bet that the single strongest fighter in the world is in U1. I'll also bet that U1 is the most advanced universe with 12 being a close second.

why so few universes? There are lots.

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>post yfw Goku and the Z-fighters rek all the weak universe's shits.

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>>153927187
>F Trunks life is suffering
it always is. Still.

the events in that timeline tend to mirror the present one in ways. so. maybe it will result in a tournament in another way.

Of course. Without Goku , Vegeta , Gohan , The androids etc. Good luck Trunks x2
Better make lots of strong kids with Mai in those extra years you might have

>>153927524

Probably into the same Universe so he can fight them all again without having to set shit up..

>>153927589
laugh but embarassed for ur shit presdent

>>153927495
I don't know about the manga, but in the anime Hit is way stronger than Goku.

Goku would need a power up in the middle of the fight to defeat him.

So basically a classic tournament of 8 participants but each one is a team of 10 fighters?

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>universe was already on the chopping block

aaand there you have it , like i told you
GOKU DID NOTHING WRONG!!!!!

>>153927266
>A Frieza stronger than Frieza
Nope. Frieza never had to fight in his life and was still strong. He trained for 4 months and became as strong as a super saiyan blue.
Frost fought on the front lines unlike Frieza yet he couldn't beat Goku as a super saiyan without cheating.

>>153927528
A lot of people thinkbof powerlevel because of muh dragon ball and fighting if you would look better into it trough subs or reliable sources like herms you would know its not the case. Also this perfectly fits. U12 for exemple had the first guy who time travelled. U7 for exemples has thr sayaians who conquers planet and enslaves them thus stopping them from advancing. Maybe a reason why beerus wanted to get rid of them in the first place .

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>>153927693
Goku just wanted a fight its actually Zeno's whos the asshole who wants to delete everything.

>>153927699
Yeah Golden Freeza would shit all over Frost.

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>>153927514
>>153927589

>>153927266
They had to defeat Auta Magetta and Botamo via ring out.

Universe 7 is full of pussies.

LETS ESTABLISH THAT ANGELS BECOME USELESS IF THERE IS NO GOD OF DESTRUCTION
BUT THEY CAN GO ABOUT THEIR LIVES WITH THE UNIVERSES BEING WIPED OUT
IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE ZENO DID IT

>both the start of Z and end of Z have Goku fucking off and not communicating at all with Bulma and pals for years
What is up with that anyway

>>153927187
>>153927468
>>153927675

What the fuck are you guys talking about? His timeline is safe from all this shit.

>>153927641
>not realizing they're saving the other 4 for the next arc

>>153927707
>thus stopping them from advancing
Bullshit any advanced civilization would wreck the saiyan's shit overnight. The Milky Way is just full of retarded races.

>Zeno and Daishinkan ranking the universes on some arbitrary scale that we dont even know how it works.
>It could be on power, technology, or peace rankings who knows.
>Says he's amazed at two low level universes being able to put up an entertaining show.
>Will be so entertained by Tournament of Power so he'll want more future tournaments.
>Gives Goku blessing to wish them back.

>>153927683
nah, that would increase Universe 7's power way too much for future tournaments and what would Champa, the other GoDs, and kai do?

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SUPER IS SO FUCKING GOOD RIGHT NOW! I AM SO FUCKING HYPED!! YES YES YES!

>>153927766
Angel's go into a stasis until the next GoD appears because it's their job to be an attendant to them.
If that universe flat out doesn't exist then they're probably relocated.

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>>153927670

>>153927747
Botamo is basically impossible to defeat since he sends any force directed at his body into another dimension he is logically indestructable because no kinetic energy can mess with molecular structure resulting in him breaking.

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>mfw kid gohan's design was from a literal who from dragon ball filler
Gohan was a jobber from the start

>>153927103
also makes sense as its been said that sidra is very hesitant to destroy

>>153927823
For what? These rules and exceptions just made it much shittier.

>>153927729
Exactly. There's nothing wrong with wanting to fight. Goku's just a dope, he didn't realize the stakes were so high. Zeno is a menace.

>>153927793
No it isnt, the timeline he is in with two Trunks still has Zeno, who stil will think there are too many universes and plans to wipe a bunch out

Can someone post the pic with each universe and which gods/characters are in each universe respectively.

>>153927635
This hinders planets from further developing and beerus himself said he wanted tobget rid of frieza sooner or later. The fact that zeno even blamed beerus for being a sleephead just furher proves my point. Not to mention he blows planets because they cant cook for shit and not for their general quality.

>>153927707
>or reliable sources like herms you would know its not the case.

Herms himself isn't sure.
He said he thinks Daishinkan probably means overall quality, and overall quality might not just include advancements but other things like powerlevel, morals and ethics and what not.

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>future Trunks' U7 is going to get deleted because Zeno always wanted to delete some universes

reminder that if Beerus wasn't a short tempered lazy fuck, U7 would be high on the charts.

>>153927861
Its just one galaxy anon there are billions of galaxies in a fucking universe.

>>153927859
He won't because there's no Goku asking him to make a tournament.

we don't get to see 4 of the universes

>>153927803

They would need the boost if the missing 4 Universes are as strong as to not have to fight for survival.

Plus it gives them an excuse to make the cast being introduced relevant.

>>153927888
No it wouldnt what Grand Priest means the beings in the other universes are overall more powerful than the ones in U7.

>>153927884
who knows the timeframe of when that would've happened

>>153927793
Zeno's been thinking about trimming the universes since there's too much chaff in them he did it right away in Goku's universe since the monkey man's tournament suggestion would let him kill two birds with one stone, but even in Future Trunks timeline he will eventually get around to trimming the hedges and Universe 7 is going straight to the chopping block due to how wimpy its ningen are, especially with all of the strong people dead

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Thanks Toriyama.

>>153927842
>not knowing who the Dragon Boy is that predates DB.
amateur.

>>153927796
>Bullshit any advanced civilization would wreck the saiyan's shit overnight.
Nice headcanon. Only one who got rid of them was frieza.

>>153927884
but his zeno is in the present timeline now

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>>153927913
>tfw no kek god of destruction universe

>>153927103
So basically what you're saying is that it's basically 100% Frieza and Buu's fault for spreading chaos and mayhem and killing most of the population of the universe

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>>153927589
Sorry Donald, all I see is everything you try getting blocked.

>>153927902
He was planning to erase every universe except the 4 exempt before the tournament idea you idiot

The tournament is just a fun way for Zeno to do it and is convenient, and to see if one of the universes slated for erasure is salvageable

F Trunks is fucked

>>153927920
Daishinkan never said that the universe rankings were based on strength though. Just ningen quality.

Just because Universe 1's scrubs might be stronger than Universe 7's, doesnt mean Universe 7's top ten is weaker than Universe 1's.

perhaps those universes will be used in a future omniversal tournament arc

>Universe 7 wins the tournament because of course
>Goku wishes back the seven destroyed universes
>Brings back the other six as well, all 18 universes are back
>six GoDs learn that they were destroyed
>anger and confusion mixes with already existing unrest and fear and blossoms into a full-scale rebellion, all 18 universes versus the two Zen'ou's
Looking forward to the sixth arc tbqh

>>153927989
Saiyans are stupid you could easily murder them all with biological warfare. Heck a fucking human created machines more powerful than Frieza A HUMAN.

>>153927992
No, the timeline he's in has one too. His old timeline doesn't, but it doesn't have anything else either.

>>153927251

Because Goku (inadvertatly) gave U7 a chance of surviving, instead of simply getting deleted, because Zen-Chan was planning on deleting the lesser universes anyway (which U7 is a part of).

>>153927870
>advancements but other things like powerlevel, morals and ethics and what not
Yeah thats what I meant as well. Civilisation as a whole. I just wanted people to know that it wasnt just about powerlevels and that those 4 exempted universes are necessary stronger then the others.

>>153928002
But none of the GoDs look like Kek at all.

>>153928039
If Gero can make machines stronger than Popsicle then advanced aliens can make Majin Buu tier articial beings using ki science and shit.

You could beat saiyans by just inventing a machine that sucks the ki out of their bodies in microseconds.

>>153927888
>wanted to destroy saiyans who are most powerful race in the universe
>buu and babidi destroyed thousands of advanced worlds while that faggot was sleeping

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Did anyone else find it eerie that Whis and Vados didn't seem to give one flying fuck about the deletion reveal? Whis even laughed at Beerus being shocked

>>153927975
Zeno wouldn't even remember about that if it wasn't for Goku.

>the furry, the fuzzball, the fish thing, and the lizard man all get to survive

I guess it's not a coincidence they got the least screentime and prominence of any of the gods there.

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A P O L O G I Z E

>>153927884
His Zeno have no excuse so his universe will not be deleted (yet).
As far we know his Zeno could destroy his universe 1000 years after

>>153927699
Frieza never had to TRAIN. He was pretty active, he destroyed planets and went looking for the Dragon Balls personally.

There is no proof Frost has ever trained. He also seems to be less of a retard than Frieza (Not underestimating everyone and stuff). If he trained he would become way better than Frieza.

>>153927901
Frieza was the ruler of them and known across pretty much all of it. Since the kai's observe the whole universe the only thing more evil was buu. And buu himself is proof to how bad u7 is in quality since he is evil reincarnate

>>153927693
Goku's just a lucky fucker. Things always turn out fine for him in the end, but when it comes to intent, he displays a very blatant, rampant disregard for... Well, the whole universe.

It's like someone who drives like a jackass all the time, runs red lights, speeds, etc, but never gets into a wreck,and always happens to be in the right place at the right time out of sheer luck. Doesn't mean he isn't a jackass.

>>153928105
No whatever the fuck Frieza is, was the most powerful species in the GALAXY NOT UNIVERSE GALAXY.

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What if our actual universe is on the chopping block?

>>153928118
Only Zamasu could save his universe.
>tfw Gowasu was wrong

>>153928130
So F. Trunks will get deleted when he's in the afterlife

How about that fight though?

>>153928118
ZAMASU DID NOTHING WRONG LITERALLY

>>153928175
>he starts floating
I actually started laughing

Well, it's pretty much confirmed Super isn't ending after this arc now that there's four universes we aren't even touching upon.

>>153928130
>As far we know his Zeno could destroy his universe 1000 years after
Trunks and Mai needs to hurry up and produce a lot of strong saiyan babies then, so their universe will be safe in the future.

>>153928039
Now that I think about it

Why doesnt Bulma just create an army of Androids to protect Earth?

She has the plans to make a fully automatic type like 16 , and the money to do it

They could have thousands of robots stronger than Freiza

>>153928108
They're not going to die, why would they give a fuck? They probably have been around for a long time, they might even have been angels in other universes, serving under other gods.

>>153928108
They're angels, easygoingness about the fate of universes (and in general) is in their nature.

>>153928108
At the end of the day this shit's all business for them even if they do love the treats

>>153928145
Frieza was a galactic overlord he was a nonfactor on a universal scale and Buu was a galactic threat, the time it would take for Buu to destroy every planet in the universe would be so far in the future that every star would have already ceased to exist.

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>>153928174
Maybe. Do you rike it?

>>153928108
Angels are heartless monsters and the true villains behind it all.

>>153928016
>Top 10 of U7's strong beings (excluding gods) are conveniently placed on earth.
>stronger than all of the other universes
I mean it's not impossible but what are the odds.

>>153928108
Angels run the whole show, wake up sheeple! It's a conspiracy.
I guess being "neutral" does that to you.

>>153928108
Angels are neutral.

>>153928202
>implying toryiama gives a fuck about toyo verses
I think toryiama will be handing his reign to toyo after this one

>>153928108
The angels are much older than the universes they protect, the current 12 or 18 were probably not Zenos first universes , hence the Void world

for all we know they have seen hundreds of universes they were angels for die

>>153928004
It's Freeza's fault for exterminating so many promising species' under his empire to ensure he'd stay all powerful. This includes the Saiyans by extension.

It's Bibidi's fault for creating Majin Buu and dooming countless, as well as murdering the Supreme Kai who preceded Shin.

It's Beerus' fault for being so fucking lazy that he sleeps through crisis' that are his responsibility to end, like the shit with Buu and the Saiyans. Likewise, it's Shin's fault for being so hands off with all matters regarding mortals with the exception of Buu.

Universe 7 is a fucking mess where the people in power are totally incompetent at their jobs, allowing for all the power to fall into a small fraction of the universes fighters.

>>153928108
They are the literal master race why should they give a shit if bacteria gets deleted?

>>153926982
>apologize
>to a ningen
No thanks

>>153928117
Also not a coincidence those are all the shittiest designs and were created by Toyotaro

>>153928237
Beerus is the GoD of u7. He was surprised there was someone capable of defeating frieza

I know the universe thing isn't based on power levels and all but given how the very large majority of the universe is weaker than Freeza, heck, even weaker than the Ginyu Force probably indicates how shit they are

>>153927842
What episode is this?

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>>153928070
Yeah, and that only makes me more curious about these universes.
Especially U1 and U5. I wonder how Iwen and Arak's universes are like.

>you will never be from U1, having to settle for the shitty U7 instead

Zamasu was right.

>>153928203
>Vegeta's offspring
>keeping safe anything

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Just because Universe 7 is second weakest on AVERAGE does not mean that U7's top 5 can't wreck the other universes' top 5. I mean, nobody believes U6 is stronger. Hit can only do so much. Plus the entirety of the U6 saiyan race already bumps up the average score by a lot.

It's more likely that U7 has a handful of top outliers and the rest are useless/scrubs (which we knew already).

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>>153928238

I fucking knew that angels were immune to destruction, why are they though?

>>153926982

I apologize Goku.

>>153927262
Beerus is a lazy fucktard who has been stated as being a piss poor GoD.
Kaioshin is a litteral fucktarded newb who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground who only got the position because some random ancient chaos entity that predated the entire multiverse decided to set up shop in U7 while Beerus's lazy ass was having a multiple thousand year long wet dream about pizza and technically legal cat girls.

>>153928070
>>153928325

>aren't necessarily stronger*
Sry for typo

>>153928260
If they win the tournament (yes), probably.

The "quality" ranking means nothing because it's just average ningens. Universe 7 has a few near god level fighters but everyone else sucks which drives down the average. Universe 5,8,1,12 might have no near god level fighters but their farmers might be slightly stronger, thus driving up the average

>>153928325
Iwan confirmed for strongest

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>>153928317
>all of them designed by Toyotaro

Kek I just realized this

Mangacucks actually believed that based Tori would let any shit created by Toyotaro be relevant.

>>153928280
>so many promising species
ITS ONE FUCKING GALAXY IN AN ENTIRE UNIVERSE

>>153928364
Because they're Zeno's and the Grand Angel's main men?

>>153928268
Toyo created some designs. It doesn't mean it's his verse or that he will decide everything.

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He's the final boss, right?

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Should I make a Fan Manga branching off as an alternate timeline from Z, in which the events of Super never happened /a/?

>>153928160
ahahahahahahah
better get those nips to not screw up then

>>153928280
Sounds like Latin America.

>>153927262
I LOVE how they've essentially confirmed something that fans thought for years and that Shin actually is fucking awful at his job. Like, the worst

>>153928395
If anything, it proves that this won't be the last arc since there's 4 more universes they can use for something bigger later

>>153928364

Higher Gods of Creation

Zeno is simply a god of destruction.

>>153928320
Beerus is a retarded lazy piece of shit who doesn't know anything about his universe

>>153928395
If you exclude Beerus and Champa, literally the majority of all the GoDs are done by Toyotaro you troll.

>>153928395
>U10/U3 are psrt of the tourney
Nah toyo verses are just that based they cant get destroyed

>>153928325
iwan's partner Unvierse is Gene's
Arak's is Rikheel's

>>153928403
Nope, he's just aware that no matter what happens, nothing will happen to him.

>>153928160
for all we know, our universe was probably saved or destroyed plenty of times by some ragtag group of fighters

>>153928378
>implying there was anything wrong with Buy destroying shit
Nigga was just doing Beerus' job for him while he slept

>>153928280
Still the strongest fighter on U7 can fight the strongest fighters of any other universe.
Average doesn't matter in the tournament.

>>153928382
Also their GoD does their jobs and destroy weak worlds so that helps.

>tfw ruined our universe's power level by destroying the Sayans...

>>153928179
He didn't wish to make all the ningens dissapear, or else he would've won without dying

>>153928320
Beerus is retarded.

>>153928108

The angels are sociopaths to the decimal point. why would they care, especially when they know nothing actually happens to them. Whis has been showing sociopathic tendencies since his introduction.

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champa, vermoud , rumoosh gowasu are going to die. I know this because we have seen a point beyond this , with uub and all. if they get "revived" then that still means they died once

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>Dark Goku theories falling apart since it was Zeno's intention to destroy some universes all along

It's not fair.

>>153928447
>Beerus is a retarded lazy piece of shit who doesn't know anything about his universe
Headcanon

>>153928489
Gowasu is immortal because he exists in all our hearts.

>>153928495
>dark goku
No Goku is just an idiot he cant be morally described because hes too stupid to realise he is doing something bad.

Once again, Shin acts like he's known Beerus and the other gods and how to do his job for ages but only just found out about Beerus recently.
Did fusing and being Kibito Kai for so long just fuck up his memory until they defused?

>>153928475
>Every "bad guys" Goku killed could have increased our universe's average

Goku is truly the villain

ok, but what are the chances that Earth food and cup ramen are the most delicious delicacies in all 12 universes?

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>Tfw Zamasu comes back from the future because he was actually really immortal and he was just rebuilding himself from nothing and BTFOs Zeno and saves everyone
Can't wait. He'll see that Zeno is the real evil.

>>153928317
lol wow toei shitting on toyotaro

>>153928246
Ugh, I'm so tired of that cliche, has their ever been a story where the angels are actually good guys, ever? I don't think there are even angel waifus

>>153928495
>Possibility to spare both universes if Goku throws the fight
>He refuses this

>>153928495
I'm glad all these idiots got BTFO.

As someone who likes Goku and suffers every day by his Toei flanderization seeing him getting redeemed like this is a godsend.

APOLOGIZE

I haven't watched today's episode yet

Was it fun?

>>153928539
Why is he so short?

>>153928539
retcon on top of retcons fuck shit up. This is the nature of DB.

>>153928280
Bibidi didn't create Majin Buu, he only knew the means of calling him out from wherever he was in the universe.

>>153928467
>What if our actual universe is on the chopping block?

Fighters from the trappist system saved us long time ago.

>>153928576
Yes

>being hyped by android 17 when he is weaker than android 18 and was long surpassed by goku, gohan, vegeta, and piccolo and is weaker than buu

tip top kek

>>153928576
Best episode desu. 10/10 nothing to complain

>>153928561
How is saving the best and strongest for last "Toei shitting on Toyotaro" You do realize Toei doesn't write the plot right?

>>153928568
Angels are by nature amoral because they follow anything God says whether it fits human morality or not. To an angel you are just a thing made by God that is meant to DO WHAT GODS SAYS NO MATTER WHAT.

The angels in Supernatural are a perfect portrayal of this alien morality.

>>153928628
>weaker than 18

"No"

>tfw a random universe wins the tournament
>before any universe is destroyed the winner can make a wish
>wishes for zenos to disappear
>all universes are safe now

>>153928576
Until the end it was

>>153928628
18 is the weaker one

>>153928576
Yes

>>153928640
you don't get to actually see them in the show

>>153928607
Fuck Toriyama for this retcon.

>>153928628
>we can only get hyped for the strongest characters

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>>153928546
100%.

Apparently Whis had never even heard of frozen food before Battle of Gods. Every other planet must just eat dirt and drink tea.

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>mfw Roshi becomes Namek Frisbee level
>mfw Tien and Krillin become perfect Cell level
>mfw Androids become Dabura level

>>153928541
>Goku only killed Cell and Freeza
Uhh....

Those fucking Nameks need to raise their power levels.

Roided Basil> gohan?

>>153928570
Uh, how would throwing the fight save both universes?

Remember that this isn't the actual tournament? He wasn't going to blow either of them up no matter who lost

>>153928495
It's a shame. It was the whole reason I was interested in this arc. At least I can stop watching this show again.

>Clowncuck is going to die

Hope he's the first one to job

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>>153928012

>hurrr durr I posted a picture of the constitution of the united states of america. I obviously know that Trump isn't allowed to do things other prior Presidents have done

Pedro, I know you're salty as fuck for Gohan jobbing and Donald, but things will turn out for a brighter future, i promise.

>>153928691
It really does sound like Earth is the best fucking planet ever according to Whis, Vados, and GoDs. Even Frieza said it was hella nice.

>>153928541
The bad guys would have destroyed planet after planet, bringing the average down.

>>153928681
The GoDs are still going to be watching the tournament you idiot, it's just that their contestants won't be needing to participate in an universal elimination tournament.
Their average power level is double U7, you should be glad they left us some lore to explore for the next arc after this arc.

>>153928539
Why don't the gods of U7 help ningens? Do they just enjoy watching them suffer until big problems like Buu happens?

>>153928628
actually 18 is weaker since gero made 17 first and didn't like his arrogance/not following orders so he attributed it to his power and made 18 weaker

Grand Priest is literally just making this shit up and pulling it out of his ass and Zeno isn't even paying attention to what he's saying because they're too excited

U7 Rankings

Goku
Vegeta
Majin Buu
Gohan
Piccolo
17
18
Roshi
Krillan
Tien


U7 really fucking sucks cock.

>>153928722
>Zeno sama this was fun! Do you want more tournaments in the future? Lets wish them back!

Will Gohan ask elder kai to power him up again?
Last time he didnt even finish did he?

They should wish Freeza back so he could join the tournament.
Beerus could force him to do so.

>>153928541
Every major Dragon Ball villain is still around besides Staff Officer Black, Freeza and Cell.

>>153928740
If Earth is so good then why are all of them weaklings?

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>>153928656
>>153928669

How can I be in a thread full of rabid spics, and yet you faggots still don't know basic shit?

>>153928687

Android 17 is really just a dick with no character development though.

>>153928719
Episode preview says Zeno will waive the universal destruction rule if Bergamo can beat Goku. We know Toppo breaks in the episode after that so it probably doesn't matter.

Universes 6 and 7 are both surviving this arc for certain. If the "sister universe" theory is still being honored, that'd make sense. Even now, the universes exempt from deletion are joined by a sister universe and sum up to 13.

>>153928750
>Their average power level is double U7
Speculation, we dont know if quality equals power level.

>>153928769
All of the U10 fighters should really ask him for a boost

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>>153928761
>Roshi abover krillin and tien
Waaaaat?

>>153928755
The job of the kais is to watch not interfere.

Would Jerez consider Piccolo beautiful?

>>153928722

>Clown personally knows some warriors who are immensely strong and can save his universe from destruction effortlessly
>tells them to take a vacation just before the big tournament

ONE, NOTHIN WRONG WITH ME!

>>153928709
Also Freeza kinda stated the ball rolling by wiping out the Saiyans, I mean Raditz was just a garbage tier grunt and basically stronger than anyone on Earth at the time

>>153928782
Because food and it's got a civilized, peaceful (relatively) populace. That should drive the average quality up.

>>153928459
Cool. Thanks for remembering us.
Not only they are best universes, but they are best wins as well.

Ahahahha, the other universes really are just plebeian shit who are going to be literally BTFO unless they win.

>>153928814
>>153928769
My bad. I meant 7.
I get confused easily.

>>153928790
Is Toppo from one of the universes that doesnt participate?

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>>153928786
>basic shit

Good job triggering me anon, that's a fake interview, you fucking retard.

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if hes gonna die in the tournament im gonna alt f4 life

>>153928761
What a shitty ranking.

Goku
Vegeta
Gohan
Buu
Piccolo
18
17
Tien
Krillin
Roshi

Fixed that for you.

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So why can't they sense the furries energy?

I swear to god everyone needs a gimmick.

>>153928860
>dragon balls

>>153928847
Nope toppo good to job

>>153928820
He's going to Mafuba someone stronger than him. And lots of keks will be had

>>153928761
>Yamcha doesn't even make the list
Also Tien is likely the strongest non android human since he seems to train when nothing's going on unlike Krillin

>>153928866
I don't think Gohan is powerful enough to completely vaporize Buu, also Buu still has his stuff.

>>153928866
Goku
Vegeta
Gohan
Buu
Piccolo
17
18
Krillin
Tien
Roshi

Fixed that for you.

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>>153928840
>wins
I meant twins.
Fuck.

>>153928761
No its

Vegito
Goku
Vegeta
Gohan
Gotenks
Majin Buu
Perfect Cell
Semiperfect Cell
Android 17/18/Piccolo
Frieza
Trunks
Goten
Captain Ginyu
Krillin
Nappa
Raditz
Tien
Yamcha
Roshi

>>153928859
why wasnt 19 stronger?

>>153927103

If each board was a universe, what would the average star ranking of /a/ be?

I feel like it's be a solid 2 star board.

>>153928802
nah, they said all universes that loses are being rekted.

No way Goku doesnt wish them all back. He's going to blow Zeno away too much not to be able to.

>>153928877
I was assuming it's because they're from another universe. They could sense U6 because they are twins but outside that, it doesn't work

Though they haven't officially said why yet

>>153928808
But the Tournament is literally called "Tournament of Power"

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>>153928786
>Android 17 is really just a dick with no character development though.

He's going to be U7 dark horse and get character development via flashbacks and in this arc.

>>153928880
its still gonna be sad af

>>153928859
isn't 16 stronger than 17 and 18?

>>153928914
Current buu > current gohan

>>153928939
Then how did Lorax sense Gohan's energy increasing?

>>153928913
I listed on powerlevels.

We could put Krillin on top because he can just kienzan everyone if we started to talk about individual skills and abilities.

>>153928709
Pretty sure Cell, Freeza, Ginyu Force, Freeza's army, Babidi, Dabura, etc would all bring our average up.

>>153928956
>being sad when someone dies in Dragonball at this point

death hasn't meant anything in the series in a long long time, it wouldn't even be Roshi's first time.

>>153928970
No Gohan can curbstomp the fuck out of Buu.

>>153928952
who knows what he has been doing besides park ranging.

>>153928971
I'm pretty sure all they said was they can alter their powers which could be pretty obvious just visually

>The universes were going to get wiped out anyway
>Thanks to Goku they all get a fighting chance to survive
>Suddenly universe are exempt now
>No everybody hates Goku and U7 storyline
>Tourny will be shorter now that universes are excluded
>The winner of ToP will just wish the erased universes back and then the weaker universes in the the ToP will have an all out war against Zeno and the universes that didn't participate in the ToP.

>Goku and Ayy and Hit and Vegeta and Toppa will be allies


>DBS Civil War is the next arc
>Universes against Zeno led by Punished Zeno vs Universes for Zeno led by Future Zeno

Okay

>>153928786
>Android 17 is really just a dick with no character development though.
He probably became a Park Ranger because 16 touched his heart.

>>153928946
Yeah, and most powerful tournament competing wins.

>>153928418
You mean GT?

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>Grand Priest reveals the big twist
>Everyones reaction animation is just a copy paste of them standing there not moving from a previous episode

>>153928928
/a/'s entire gimmick is hiding power levels.

Who was the big red guy in the afterlife? What happened to him?

>>153928743
Are you retarded ? Destroying weaklings only bring the power up.

>>153928913
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkSsU7tO3Ew

>>153928988
Krillin using the Kienzen in an important situation and accomplishing something
>ever

meanwhile Tien's Tayoken has been one of the more important techs in the series and the kikoho hits WAY above his weight level

>>153929013
Well even so, the furries never mentioned that they can't sense U7's powerlevels

>>153929011
>No Gohan can curbstomp the fuck out of Buu
No. Buu toyed with a roided basil. Gohan drew with a clean lavender. Poison doesnt even do anything to buu. Not to mention one candy beam/absorption and gohan is gone for

>>153928913
ssj3 gotenks was gonna vaporize super buu, but his time ran out

gohan would've killed buutenks as well

>>153929086
Why the hell do you think Basil is even near Lavenda's power level?

I mean fucking shit ROSHI is in this tournament.

>>153929075
You completely missed the point I made so I'll just stop replying to you as keeping a conversation going would be just a waste of time. Have a good day.

>>153929037
Wait...

U6's overall powerlevel is higher than U7's, but U7 still won that tournament.

>>153929116
Buutenks was whipping Gohan's ass

>>153929075
>>153928988
Buu should be higher than Gohan since Chocolate Beam is still the best

>>153929064
I wish Gohan didn't sound like a granny in Japanese.

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>>153928877

>I swear to god everyone needs a gimmick.

Yes, welcome to the world of Dragon Ball.

>>153929145
Buutenks is not Fat Buu though.

>>153929144
If Hit hadn't thrown the fight to Monaka, they would have won.

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>>153928859
>monkey man + slug man + lizard man = cicada man

>Goku pretty much saved Universe 7 by asking for this tournament. Zeno was gonna wipe out U7 before this.

Everyone apologize.

U7 loses, they are delet

Rest of Dragonball Super follows the adventures of furry notGoku from U20XX and his friends.

>>153929135
Basil survived majin buu max kamehameha. Lavender won against gohan in the beam struggle.gohan isnt that good. Guy fights in ssj even buu src gohan could go ssj2

I really dig some of the new music tracks

>>153929209
I bet Hit would have killed Monaka, making U7 win anyway since no kill rule.

>>153929238
Gohan is leagues above Majin Buu you retard how many times do I have to explain that.

Two things that'll probably happen

>Goku wishes back all 18 universes
>Goku wishes back all inhabitants of the other universes and there will be six expanded universe, keeping the pair rule, and having it be so that each universe number equals 7 (1+6,2+5,3+4) because it equals the amount of dragon balls.

>>153929064
why do facnoer tards think generic american rock fits with dragon ball?

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>>153929064
so would this be the same state or a new transformation (seeing he has no sparks in the video)

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the only way to defeat toppo

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so you guys think that universe 7 would be any higher in rankings if they just let all of the bad guys live

>>153929249
He just has to stop time and gently push Monaka out. How hard could it be?

>>153929290
Idk fuck Toriyama for forgetting Mystic entirely.

>>153929264
> no argument
>delivers no explanation but no he is stronger because muh gohan durr
You either come up with a proper argument or I stop talking to your underage ass

>>153929303
>a 2v2 match happens in the tourney
>Gogeta appears
It won't happen but I can dream.

Makes you wonder if any if the other universes remember their parallel before it got deleted.

>>153929343
Didn't Gohan go mystic in BoG though?

>>153929315
No learn what the word average means you fucking retard.