Scanlation Thread

Best scanner or all in one printers for tanks?

Is there anon who could modify the script for bookpass? I have the ver.1 (was coded by enjhooker anon)for it but it's not working anymore. I think the viewer is the same as Reader Store.
http://pastebin.com/cxyv3Mnd

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>>153873527
Take it apart and scan it normally. Doesn't really matter what printer as long as it works.

>>153875915
ayy

>>153873527
I've had both bad luck with low and high end scanners leaving lines all over the place. Really difficult to find working machines unless you do some research at some comic restoration forum

>>153873527
The current top scanners are
Epson Perfection V550
Canon CanoScan 9000F Mark II

>>153876319
Try using the TWAIN drivers and scanning directly into Photoshop alternatively you can use IrfanView.

>>153877117

Scan lines are a defect with the scanner head itself, not the TWAIN.

Dead bread

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How would you stitch together two pages when the tones don't "line up"?

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>>153873378
New Elf danmachi spin-off to chinese

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How does ripping from WSJ work?
I just need one issue (247), torrent's fucked for me

>>153880047
Doesn't wsj anon upload to the Goddess?

>>153880282
Madokami went to shit.

>>153879652
https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/advanced-redrawing-methodes.2993177/

Have you tried the method mentioned on chapter 3 from the link?

>>153880860
Chapter 4*, made a typo.

>>153873378
Is there a collection of fonts?

>>153880970
yes

>>153881077
Where?

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[CLEANING]

http://coe.utah.edu/~christom/
http://forums.sensescans.com/index.php?topic=2814.0
http://www.ruinevil.com/rawr/editguide/1.html

[REDRAWING]

https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/advanced-redrawing-methodes.2993177/

[TYPESETTING]

http://prettyanonymo.us/index.php/scanlation-resources/anonblacks-typesetting-guide/
http://prettyanonymo.us/index.php/scanlation-resources/
http://sensescans.com/index.php?topic=3260.0
http://www.ruinevil.com/rawr/editguide/2.html

Shit like this >>153879652 and this >>153880970 is why I post >>153881595

>>153881647
It's helpful for the beginners, what's the problem here?

>>153881783
If you put that every thread it ends up being a general, which are frowned upon for a good reason, as they end up being circlejerks with nothing to do with the original topic.
They go full cancer when they start counting threads and have "editions".

And to top it off, all that info can be found with a basic search, unless they are chronic retards.

>>153882042
>Muh general
Clearly, you're retarded

>>153882042
Threads become generals when they stay up all the time. This might not be a general but you're deluded if you think it isn't a circlejerk.

>>153875915
I always wondered how do you take a tankobon apart in order to scan all the pages. I mean I guess pages are most likely glued with something right? How do you preserve the integrity of the outside taking the page from the tankobon? Let's say I want to scan both of them, the outside and the inside of the manga, what people normally do?

>>153883054
What you want to google is "debinding manga".
Granted I've never done it myself so I can't recommend any particulars

>>153883054
Just apply heat to the spine to melt the glue enough to pull the pages out gently. It doesn't normally damage the outside unless you're really reckless. I use a hairdryer for debinding. You don't even need an expensive one.

>>153883095
mmh mmh thanks for pointing me in the right direction, let's see what I can find. I'll post the result here just in case someone is wondering that too

>>153883054
some people use a hair dryer to melt the glue on the binding

>>153882710
How is this a circlejerk? The only time this has come close to it was when people started shitposting, but then again, that's shitposting for you. Take a look at this thread. People are asking stuff, other anons are replying and being generally helpful to each other.

>>153883166
It kind of turns into a circlejerk if someone tries to keep it up past its natural lifespan
That one fucking tripfag mostly

>>153883286
>one person bumping the thread to keep it alive makes it a circlejerk
Either you're retarded or I don't know what a circlejerk is.

>>153883166
It becomes a circlejerk when you have the same people in every thread, which is pretty much what happens here. Surely there's new users but most are regulars.

>>153883393
Yeah I guess it's not so much a circlejerk as that one guy jerking himself off. but still.

>>153883123
here it is, a good video tutorial explaining the process in a simple way https://youtu.be/BP-wRBfObqc

Actually, on the topic of debinding manga, what do people do with the pages after they've been debinded and scanned?

Do you attempt to rebind them or something? Or just kinda file them away in a stack?

>>153873527
I had an Epson V600 for a while and it was choice

>>153883554
They get filed away in a stack, in case they need to be rescanned for whatever reason.
I buy 2 of everything.

>>153883554
If you have a press it's possible to sort of rebind them, or at least to compress them back to an almost close enough height again. Normally I just wrap an elastic band around them though.

>>153883160
That's of the worst possible ways to do it. Not only does it take a drastically long time, it warps and wrinkles the pages.

What you want is an iron or hot plate. Then you just put a piece of cloth between the surface of the iron and the spine of the manga. Run the iron over the spin of the manga for a few seconds and the pages should peel right out.

>>153883527
Do not follow this video, it's not actually good in the slightest. Doing it with a hair dryer will damage the pages because you can not control exactly where you are heating up.

Do this >>153883719 it much faster and more effective.

>>153883719
>That's of the worst possible ways to do it.
I learned this the hard way. It smeared the glue all over my glossy color pages.

>>153883554
I don't bother because I'm a lazy ass, but it can be rebound (with a little loss on the page size). I had a place near me that offered a night class in bookbinding. It's surprising how much to the course there is but if you're interested, have the time, and can afford it, I genuinely recommend it.

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Anybody recognize this font? Might be decent for a sound effect text.

>>153883950
I cropped the right text bubble and dumped it into WhatTheFont.
Looks like Artists Alley (Bold Italic)

>>153883054

Just don't use a hairdryer (or a microwave if you're especially touched in the head and actually considered that).

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>>153884207
Thanks anon, that's the one

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>>153883719
what about a hair straighteners? I can buy a cheap one on ebay or amazon, tearing it apart making a one side plate and using it like a knife

>>153884555
Sure, half a hair straightener would work the same way as an iron.

>>153884754
most scanners don't live in japan. you just order online.

>>153884237
If you just use the hairdryer as a heat source and only heat the spine, is it really going to fuck shit up, other than being slower though?

>>153885241
I guess ordering your own manga and making your own RAW scans keep your quality at a higher level but what's the point if I can I have to wait weeks for the shipment when someone in Japan can host RAWs somewhere on internet one or two days after the release?

>>153885406
Because some people want to scanlate things that aren't (publicly) available on the internet.

>>153885406
Because japs don't host RAWS one or two days after release mostly? Most pubraws are shitty anyway, artificating anywhere, and not even properly levelled.

>>153885378
You can't only heat up the spine with a hair dyer.
It blows hot air out in a frontal cone that is much wider than the spine oh a book. So heat is, without fail, going to warp the pages.

>>153885529
it's not gonna touch the pages if you only blow it on the outside though. You might warp the cover, but you can scan that before debinding.

any update on a working ebj ripper script?

>>153885467
>>153885473
I think I misjudged Japanese people. I thought they were automatically uploading their stuff online because we in the West are addicted to anime and manga. Good point. I'm wondering now how much should I wait for a packaged from Japan to Europe but all of this may be too expensive for a scanlation team that mostly work free for users..

>>153885529
I've never used it for debinding, but my blow dryer came with a concentrator attachment.

>>153885646
Yeah, fuck that noise. Thank god for ebooks.

>>153885606
Why destroy the cover when you don't have to?And either way, heat will still reach the top and bottom of the pages.

>>153885710

>thank god for shitty shitscaled digital raws that's only good for reading on Japanese flip phones

Nope, paper raws are where its at

>>153885790
I mean, ideally digital master copies are what you want. But that'll never happen.

>>153885646
All I can recommend for that is order in bulk where possible. Tanks aren't actually that exensive mostly, so generally you're just paying for postage. Obviously if the costs all fall to you, it's on you, but I've personally paid for more than a few tanks I've worked on and it hasn't stopped me from being able to live. If you're really scrimping by paycheck to paycheck you might struggle though.

>>153885790
Shit looks fine, stop exaggerating. The large majority of your readers couldn't care less about the barely noticeable difference in quality anyway. It only really matters to (You).

>>153885878

Try reading old scanlations from the early 2000s.

>800px is fine, guys, geez!

>>153885849

Unless you work at Fakku

>>153885878
>retard tier reddit (you) posting
>is near blind
>doesn't even know anything about scanlating
It's no wonder you don't care about quality at all.
Please just leave and never come back, newshit.

>>153885760
Sure, but if you stop convection, there's no more heat reaching the pages than any other method. I just don't see why it's significantly awful compared to any other method of melting the glue.

Anyone have that Chinese tool updated? I want to pick it up a series from jump+

>>153885878
The large majority of readers are fine with shitty joke notes in the margins and machine translations too.
Are we condoning that now?

>>153885878

I can understand your opinion if most ebooks were 1600px (most new ones are nowadays, fortunately, they're getting better), I could understand. But 80% of ebooks are still >1200px.

I wonder what a Japanese reader (excluding cellphone-only readers) would think if he saw that Comixology releases 3000px. Do you think they reverse import?

>>153885963

He right though. Most manga aggregator readers don't give a shit about quality

>>153885926
Holy fuck, I remember paging through some old GTO and JoJo scans way back, though the former was also a combination of questionable typesetting choices

>>153886029

<1200*

>>153885529
>warping the pages
>warping recycled pulp paper

ITT: people who have never done any debinding.

I use an iron, but I know the Kakushigoto scanner uses a dryer and somehow has managed to avoid the horror of page warp.

Or did you mean there is a critical temperature at which the tankoubon will collapse into a micro black hole and spew its pages into another universe? I don't think the average hair dryer can deliver that kind of heat.

>>153885963
Don't pretend like it isn't true, you know most people don't care. They wouldn't even notice the difference if you switched from your own digital raws to your own scans.

>>153885987
No, I'm just saying ebooks are fine if you don't want to go through the hassle of scanning stuff on your own.

>>153886037
>he
No, you. And you can't even type.

>>153886154

>being this autistic about grammer

get triggered

>>153886084
Are you really going to make me take pictures of the near 100s of books I debinded with an iron?

And you're just too stupid to know the difference either way or tell if the page has been warped.

>>153886195
It's not grammar, what you failed at is syntax.
What's it like living your life failing at everything because you are just so inherently stupid?

>triggered
Nice tumblr lingo you have there, it's almost like you want to make yourself look bad.

>>153886270

What is it like spending your days correcting online posts?

Get a girl. Get a life.

>>153886396
If I wanted to be surrounded by brain damaged retards I'd go to tumblr (where you are from). The point of being here (a place that has rules about quality of posting) is to get away from people like you.

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>>153885858
there is almost no difference in price between digital and the actual manga, what do you think it's best? https://www.amazon.co.jp/9/dp/4088904796/ just an example here, I don't actually like umaru......

>>153886491
>>153884754
>~(˘▾˘)~
>......
Why is this thread so full of retards?

>>153886233
Ok, master debinder, show us a picture of such a "warped page" from heating dry paper. I agree, I am too stupid to conceive of a physical process that would distort the dimensions of a piece of paper while heating it short of actually singeing it. Enlighten us all.

>>153886540
(´▽`ʃƪ)

>>153886540
That's what you get for turning monthly threads into a weekly thing.

>>153886491
The best is always scanning and cleaning yourself. No question. The vast majority of scanlation cleaners are going to give you a better raw than the official digital raws (sadly). The question you should be asking is "are the digital raws good enough for my purpose". If they are, by all means use the digital raws and clean them for the convenience. On that front it's case by case though. Most publishers and stores won't sell you a copy that's a good res and is particularly well done.

>>153885977
What series?

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>>153886558
>distort the dimensions of a piece of paper
You do realize this is not about changing the physical size of the paper, right?
Okay, let me give you an example you can test yourself.

Take a sheet of lined loose leaf paper and hold it between you two hands, palm to palm. Hold it for a minute or so and the heat/moisture from your hands will warp the paper and make it have ripples in it. Sort of like this image.

Now, because the paper is rippled when you scan it the lines on the page that were once straight will now reflect the ripples and not be perfectly straight.

>>153886778
バイバイ人類 and 阿波連さんははかれない

>>153886993
Not that guy, but I've used hairdryers and microwaves for years without experiencing any wrinkling. As long as you use a low heat setting and take it gradually, you won't have any problems.

do you remove onomatopoeias when cleaning scans? like this one http://i.imgur.com/hfYPLWR.jpg

seriously, any new ebj rippers? I don't want to use responsive design mode for everything

>>153888032
Typesetting/redrawing sfx is something that people can never seem to agree on.
Personally no, but sometimes I work with groups that like to do it.

>>153887953
I'm sure you're just too stupid to notice.
And why would you do something slowly and get a bad result, when there are other options that are faster and give better results.

>>153888032

Only if you hate having any free time, or like stalling.

>>153888032
Only if you're planning to translate it.

>>153888032
If the sfx is quick and easy I usually do it. But if it takes redrawing I ignore it.

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>>153888077
imo I should try to keep the scan as much identical as the original adding a * close to the sfx and translating it on the sides, something like this

>>153888282
Yes, this is a pretty popular solution.
Another alternative is to typeset the English in the same style, next to the Japanese without redrawing that, but that can get really messy, fast.

>>153888059
Check the archive a thread or two back, you might find something.

>>153888117
It takes a few minutes of heating and separating for an entire book and no, there are no flaws. But obviously you're more interested in your narrative rather than being reasonable.

>>153888482
It takes literal seconds with an iron.
And no, there are flaws, you're just too stupid to see them. If the glue is getting hot enough to melt, that means there has to have been a good amount of heat on it. And the only way a hair dryer can apply heat is in a large spread, mean the pages must have been touched by it, thus warped.

And being reasonable about what? You trying to give bad information?

years ago I watched this tutorial showing me how to make godlike cleanings with Photoshop's Topax plugins but I don't remember what video anymore :/ btw you should try the DeNoise and Clean plugins! https://www.topazlabs.com/store

>>153888647
>It takes literal seconds with an iron.
Sounds exaggerated. Separating pages alone takes a bit of time.
>And no, there are flaws
Nope. Not a single one. The glue is melted enough to pop the pages out and the pages are pristine.

Fact is, you're spreading misinformation that has already been challenged by two people. You're full of shit and it stinks.

>>153889097
Nah, it was just you. And the post you are replying to explains how you are wrong. It is physically not possible to melt the new with a hair dryer and not effect other things.

The amount of heat required to melt clue is more than what paper can withstand without warping.
Hair dryers can not apply heat in a specific spot due to how they work as a whole.

Just because you apply heat "slowly" or whatever you think, that means doesn't change the net amount of total heat that is required to melt the glue. Heating it up more slowly doesn't change how the same amount of heat is still there.

This was said in the post you are replying to, but I guess you need things explained more simply for you.

>>153888482
>there are no flaws
>>153889097
>Not a single one.
Surely you're willing to post proof of this claim. Let's see your flawless, hairdryer raws.

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>>153889445
>Nah, it was just you
>muh samefag
Pathetic.

>>153889605
>if I use the word muh and say "pathetic" in my post that means I win!
No, it doesn't. And you actually proved I right as a matter of fact by posting that screen shot.

The fact you will not address anything else other than how you were caught being stupid also is very telling.

>>153886993
Original stupid guy here - you apparently missed the part about the DRY PAPER. Yes, your hand example will wrinkle the paper BECAUSE YOU'RE INTRODUCING MOISTURE. Now I'm a pretty stupid guy, but as the name hair DRYER suggests, it doesn't spray water onto the tank while you are heating it.

I don't know why you keep trying to justify your stupid argument which all started because you used the word "warped" instead of "wrinkled" which makes slightly more sense in that it would have demonstrated how retarded your argument was immediately.

As I said originally, I use an iron, not a hair dryer myself, but because I find direct heat easier to control, not because I'm afraid it will wrinkle the paper. Maybe if you have some super expensive tank that is printed on actual clay-coat stock you could damage the pages with general heating, but that's not 95% of Jap comic books.

>>153891869
>waiting until the thread is about to be archived to bump it with sheer retardation
Nice.

And you clearly so fucking stupid you don't realize there is moisture inherently in the air, and heating it up will cause it to damage paper. Even more so when you are blowing that heated moisture at the speed a hair drying functions.

Also, wrinkled and warped mean the same thing.

And next time, use sage so your shit thread died like it's suppose to.

>>153891869
See >>153889445

>>153892482
Post original, some of those screentones are suspect.

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is this ok or is it too overleveled?

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Holy fuck what is wrong with this page
The rest of the chapter looks like absolute garbage like it's been filtered seven times to no avail as well, but this single page takes the cake

>>153892562
As someone who regularly overlevels, I'm pretty sure that's overleveled

>>153892562
Yeah, you nuked it. Am I being rused? Just look at the screentones. Like literally all you had to do was nudge the blacks just a little bit.

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>>153892562
>>153892834
Here, this is what it should look like.

>>153892899
thanks, never cleaned before and since i'm typesetting i was giving it a try.

>>153886540
Why are emoticons so hated over here?

>>153893366
it's the unwritten law

>>153893366
I used a smiley when I was new and I got blasted for it. Later I learnt that lol, ellipses and emoticons are hated. To this day I haven't gotten an answer.

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>>153893366

>>153893366
>>153893451
Because quality of is a rule on this site.
It's against the third global rule.
And people who type like that in the first place are retarded.

>>153886491
>there is almost no difference in price between digital and the actual manga
Digital is clearly better barring super low-res digital releases.

>>153895273
Printed manga looks better desu.

>>153880323
What happened?

>>153896975
Not that anon, but he is likely talking about how goddess no longer accepts raw manga uploads.

>>153896271
Print manga looks like shit 90% of time.

>>153897005
Their rationale for it was pretty dumb I think.

>>153897117
Printed manga looks better in a shelf. I think print manga users should be allowed to download digital releases too.

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>>153898606
Most print manga cheaps out on quality I think, but I do like it when they don't, e.g. first two versus third.

There needs to be a modified browser that allows you just to select and save a canvas element or whatever. I'd do it if Firefox and Chrome codebases weren't so monstrous.

>>153898963
Write a script/extension.

>>153898861
Even AoT colossal edition is printed on high gsm paper while some of the low quality ones are printed on recycled paper I guess. They're that shit

>>153898963
Please do for >>153874184

>>153899026
Didn't think of using extension API, I hope it allows such things. I want it to be site independent. I'd also have to deal with watermarks somehow, detecting watermark drawing canvas events would be a must, very hard to do unless I leave that to the user.

>>153899080
Isn't bookpass gaijin/mobile locked?

>>153892830
they are starting to sing Take on me
>>153885987
>The large majority of readers are fine with shitty joke notes
My opinion is that if you don't pay for it you can't complain for tl notes, they are spoiling the quality of the manga, don't mind them

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>>153899506

>>153885614
USE FIREFOX YOU MONGREL

still hoping someone would eventually pick up this

https://myanimelist.net/manga/100323/Yuukoku_no_Moriarty

><script type="application/javascript">
> HTMLCanvasElement.prototype.toBlob = undefined; HTMLCanvasElement.prototype.toDataURL = undefined;
> </script>

This is what killed the ebj script. It undefines the functions needed for the greasemonkey script to pull the image data from the canvases, so any attempt to do so just fails.

I have no idea if there's a way around it in the limited scope of a greasemonkey script.

>>153888032
Pretty much what >>153888184 said. If it requires no redraw or if it requires minor use of the clone stamp tool, I do it. If it requires more than that, fuck the sfx.

>>153899849
You can execute a script before this line gets executed, save toBlob and toDataURL and restore them later after this line executes. Or just select and nuke this <script></script>.

>>153899644
Oh that one looks interesting! Too bad that I can only clean/redraw.

>>153899849
Do this >>153900031
Tampermonkey doesn't support it but Firefox/Greasemonkey will execute in time.

>>153899980
I generally prefer to use the content-aware fill feature because I can rely on a more precise algorithm

Why do some groups upscale raws?
I can't understand it.

>>153900376
Obviously so there's more space for typesetting.

Do you guys prefer JPEG or PNG when you make scanlations? Let's say you don't care about size for some reason, making a PNG file instead would produce less noise to clean, right?

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>>153900376
Because they are fucking retards.

>>153901267
But it's still easy to read at native size.
>>153901412
If you don't care about size PNG is objectively superior. It produces no noise because it's lossless.
I don't know why so many people use jpg.
>>153901456
christ

>>153901412
PNG. Yes.

>>153901412
PNG.
I could maybe understand saving the final product as JPG, but definitely not intermediate steps, like cleaning or redrawing over JPGs.

>>153901482
Yeah I was joking, as a reference to
>>153901456

>>153901456
By the way, does anybody know what font that is?

>>153901412
I know a few people who do initial scans in tiff rather than using jpg, to avoid having to use lossy formats.

>>153901675
I thought .tiff is useful if you want to print the scans, for digital purposes you should use png or jpeg depending on the web space you can afford

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>>153897005
>site just for hosting manga
>hosting raws is "scope creep"

>>153899222
How about Reader Store? The Bookpass is using the same viewer as Reader Store so I would modify your script for it if you write a script for Reader Store....

>>153901731
There is no reason to use JPG when you have PNG-8 with, say, a 32 color palette.

>>153901617
Chinacat?

>>153901737
>meanwhile, duplicates, duplicates everywhere
It's like every time I'm off to download stuff from there, I first have to move a bunch of duplicates (usually from kissmanga) to admin cleanup.

>>153901831
Yes, that's it. Thank you, anon.

>>153901825
I can save in PNG-8 using the old Save for Web in Photoshop. What if the scan contain colored pages? Using less colors may affect quality causing poor blending

>>153901945
I've never had to deal with colored pages, so I can't help you there. Sorry.
Maybe try saving as a normal PNG or save it as a JPG with max quality. I don't really know, I'm just guessing here.

>>153901731
I just mean the initial scan is done in tiff. When it's finished and uploaded it's in png.

>>153901482
PNG is smaller than JPG for most manga anyways.

>>153902015
there is a guy here explaining why you should not use PNG and instead using TIFF when making scans https://www.scanyourentirelife.com/tiff-vs-png-file-format-hurt-save-scanned-photos/

>one of the biggest reasons not to use the PNG format for photo scanning – and more importantly archiving photos – is because it's a form of compression. It's a form of compression called “lossless,” which as you might already know, means that your photo will be saved without having any of the data (details) of your photo “tossed out.” However, the image is still undergoing a very complex process using a mathematical algorithm to compress the file so that it will take up less space on your hard drive.

>>153901945
What do you mean? Just save the colored page as a PNG-24 or as a JPG with no compression.
I'm confused what you are trying to ask.

>>153902189
So I should only use PNG-8 when scans are in B/W ?

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>>153902124
>png is well suited to manga
>png is lossless
>still end up with jpg manga scans with visible artifacting

>>153902253
Yes.

>>153902253
Because PNG-8 is for restricted color depths. A black and white page will almost never go over 32 bit color depth, so everything else after 32 is bloat in the file size.

>>153902149
That guy is dumb and is saying you should store uncompressed. Having image undergo "complex process" using math isn't an issue and your computer is already doing that all the time, e.g. RLL(1,7).
For photographs there could be issues where information from sensor isn't kept by png so you want raw but that's not fault of compression but format. For manga scans png should be fine.

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Anyone want to see Rurumo being scanlated again?
This guy said he might do it if people are interested in the manga: https://curiouscat.me/BomberDRufi

So make sure to message him if you want to see it again.

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What are some good clear and neat fonts to use for main dialog or pretty much anything that's not hand written.

I use like five fonts mainly.
Wild Words Lower
Chinacat Thin
Delius
Mighty Zoe
Segoe Print

A lot of fonts are over stylized and and are annoying to read.

>>153902936
I only saw people using Anime Ace, I'd like to find a more tight font because it is a pain to make it fit everytime in all the balloon using always the same size

>>153902936
http://www.blambot.com/fonts_dialogue.shtml

>>153902936
Wild Words, Astro City

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>>153903162
Literally all of these fonts are awful.

>>153903162
They are good for western comics but not for manga because bubbles are different

>>153902936
Anime Ace
Digital Strip 2.0
CCComicrazy
Comic Book
Manga Temple

I forgot some other fonts, but I use those beside the ones in your post

>>153903184
You know how I know not to listen to you? Because you can't read.

>>153903269
>Anime Ace
>Manga Temple
Kill yourself.

>>153903269
CCComicrazy is all right. The rest of what you said are really bad.

>>153902936
I use Mangatemple for every manga

>>153903258
Any english typeface will have that issue.

>>153903239
Yes all 150+ of those fonts are awful, it has nothing to do with it being from website focused on western comics. Dumb weeb.

>>153897005
Now that they did this is there anywhere else raws get aggregated? I really enjoyed how a lot of mags were dumped there.

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What kerning do you think looks better for Wild Words?

I prefer optical, but I want to know what you guys think or use, and with what fonts.

>>153904626
Using all caps Wild Words is literally /co/ tier.
There is zero reason not to use lower case fonts, as it denotes the starting and ending of sentences, is more clear when showing names and titles, and of course, only retards type in all caps.

>>153902936
>Segoe Print

No.

>>153904799
What's wrong with it?

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>>153904754
But mangas are comics anon.

>>153904754
Okay, but which kerning do you think looks better?

>>153904626
Optical and all caps. Also, why your anti-aliasing settings are set to crisp instead of smooth?

>>153904899
What are "comics anon"?

>>153904992
Go away, /co/.

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>>153905015
>muh lowercase letters

>>153904867
Thin fonts are more annoying and difficult to read, plus that particular font looks terrible.
That goes for the third font too, but I've never seen anyone use it.

>>153903128
Try Zud Juice.

>>153904992
I had it on strong, some anon told me it looked like shit, so I changed it to crisp. I can't see the difference between crisp and smooth.

>>153905071
>if I add the word "muh" to my post that means I win
Literal down syndrome tier.
By using all caps you are intentional making the manga less clear and concise.

>He's so autistic he cares about all cap fonts
>he doesn't use smooth anti-aliasing for non-small text
Kill yourselves and never scanlate again.

>>153905118
>can't read all caps

>>153905086
Oh okay, you're just retarded and have bad eyes. I thought you might have an actual reason.
A font being "thin" has nothing to do with its readability. For a example of thick fonts being trash see >>153903239

>>153905107
Strong is bad for default speech bubbles, only use it if there's emphasis put on in raws.

>>153905172
Those fonts are supposed to be unreadable retard.

>>153905172
>Thin fonts are shit so ALL thick fonts must be good

Okay.

>>153905195
I see. Thank you, anon.

>>153905125
>>153905153
>he's so autistic he posts from his phone to try and win arguments instead of actually saying something that's correct
I'm more than sure you're that one troll who makes these threads all the time and tries to force them to be generals while always trying to spread misinformation about scanlating.

No one said you can't read all caps fonts, the post you are replying to says they are less clear. Which they are. And the reason they are less clear was already said to you. But you're too retarded to read at all.

>>153905200
>calls other people retards
>can't even type correctly
Irony.

>>153905239
Not what I said. Hell, you're actually agreeing with what you are replying to.

>>153905247
How are they less clear?

>>153902936
Chinacat thin, Delius and Segoe are too thin for my taste. They might be good for size text, though.
I don't quite like Mighty Zeo because of the stylization of some letters, especially the Z, but I don't really dislike it either.
You can't go wrong with Wild Words Lower.

>>153905286
>can't even type correctly
What was typed incorrectly in "Those fonts are supposed to be unreadable retard."?
I'm not the one who tried to use a mumble font designed to be unintelligible as an example of a bad thick font.

>>153905289
Try reading the posts in the thread. Try not being literally fucking retarded. Because it was already explained how they are less clear.

>>153905312
>good for size text
SIDE text*

>>153905332
The fact you can't instantly tell what's wrong shows just how stupid you are. All addressing titles and names require a comma in front of them. You are trying to address someone as "retard", so it needs a comma.

And your point out thick fonts is as retarded as you are, because again, being thick has nothing to do with readability.

You should use all cap fonts because it slows the reader down and makes them appreciate the artist's work.

>>153902936
Mind posting wild words lower? I can't seem to find a not shady looking download for it.
>>153904626
How are you changing the kerning for multiple text layers like that? I've thought optical looked better, but my default is stuck on metric and nothing seems to change it. I have to manually change it every bubble which is really annoying.
While I'm at it. Is there a way to change default font in cs6? Trying to paste hearts etc from script always defaults to Myriad Pro. Would save quite a bit of time if I could change the default.

>>153905405
>muh commas
"And your point out thick fonts" uh oh someone made a mistake!
And what point about thick fonts? I wasn't the original anon. I was just calling you a retard because you tried to use an intentionally unreadable font to make a point.

>>153905480
https://www.mediafire.com/?8najikki1qz25q1

>>153905486
There you go do that down syndrome tier "muh" shit again. You didn't learn the first time, so you're clearly retarded as well. Retardation is a defect where you can not learn, by the way.

And the answer to everything you have said has already been addressed in the thread. If you're not going to even read the thread, why are you here?

>>153905580
>again
Nope first time I've said "muh" in this thread.
It's an A N O N Y M O U S website.

>>153905746
>there are totally two retards in the thread who think it's logical to say "muh" instead of making a valid argument
Nah. And it being an anonymous site doesn't change how you stand out like crazy when certain behavior patterns.

Lower case fonts are cancer to be honest

>>153905480
Select multiple layers. You can click on one to select it, then hold control and click on other layers. If you want to change a bunch of them, click on the first one, hold shift and click on the last one to select all the layers in between. I think if you put them in a group you can change that whole group, but I'm not sure.

>>153905825
>I-It's all the same person!
Delusional. Are you same anon who thought other anon was some dedicate troll?

>>153905480
Dunno how to change the default setting, but you can select all text layers on one page and change to optical.

>>153905969
Oh, you're the troll who intentionally tries to shit up scanlation threads. I should have figured as much.

Well, when you feel like actually addressing the argument instead of just crying about how you were caught samefagging feel free to reply again.

>>153905891
Yeah? I'm sure you can back up that statement and support it with logical reasoning.

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I guess it's a long shot, but any fags or fujos interested in translating some BL? Looking for someone to work on 猛毒シュガーシロップ. It's about vampires who suck dick.
Already have some cleans too, but the translator bailed out.

>>153905172
The only ones I've seen anyone use Segoe are those isekaifags over at /ak/ and that one guy at sad panda who uses on the cover pages.
I hope you're not one of them.

>>153905969
It obviously is, so you know how retarded he'll get. Just stop replying please.

>>153906027
Except I'm not, you're just a paranoid sperg who blames everything on boogeyman.
>caught samefagging
Fell free to quote the posts you're thinking of and I will prove they're not all me.

>>153906096
How does who uses a font effect the quality of the font at all? Are you retarded?

>>153906147
You know what makes it obvious? The fact that you will do literally nothing but cry about how you were caught. You literally refuse to address anything else. You could try addressing the argument about fonts, but instead you just keep crying about the usual shit.

And no, you will not prove anything. Screen shots, as you already know, are not proof because they can easily be edited.

>>153906001
>>153905964
Can't believe I didn't think to try this. I thought I did honestly. I remember it not working and only changing the one. Thanks.
>>153905529
Thank you too anon.

>>153906147
Seriously please don't reply anymore.

>>153906209
I wasn't going to take a screenshot you dipshit.
I could prove it but you won't quote the posts because you know you're wrong.
What argument are you referring to? I believe I have addressed it. Fucking moron.

>>153906246
No, taking a physical photo of your monitor is not proof either. You can also easily change how your browser looks.
And again, you literally refuse to address anything else at all. It's pretty insane. That's what makes it so obvious.

And gee, what argument could I mean, maybe the one you started. And even if you want to pretend you're someone else, you should still know because you should have read the thread.

>>153906060
fuck off mate

>>153906399
Right after you hang yourself.

>>153906379
I wasn't going to do that either, maybe you should stop making assumptions.
>And gee, what argument could I mean, maybe the one you started.
Don't think it was me, stop assuming everyone is the same person.

>>153906626
I don't assume everyone is the same person. Just the people who act identical to each other. And the fact of the matter is, it's not possible to prove you aren't samefagging. It is literally impossible short of taking multiple live videos of different people posting in the thread at the same time.

>>153905480
https://vk.
com/doc249359112_437003965?hash=cb8736f2877654a0a6&dl=18f587b9ff204ce894

>>153906718
Is there are difference between this and >>153905529 ?

>>153906691
I can video screen while I edit element then refresh page showing the element edited reverts to normal but (You)s stay, I can then show network tab showing I am connecting to real 4chan. That's proof short of me forking my browser.

>>153906810
Download it and see for yourself.

>>153906811
Goddammit are you going to go through all that stupid shit just to prove some retard wrong on the internet? Can you not see how much of an idiot he is? Don't you see that all he wants to do is throw insults at people? Stop fucking replying, stop shitting the thread with your mutual name calling.
Go have this pathetic argument somewhere else. Please fuck off.

>>153906811
You can also just open up two browsers and make varying posts between the two, or even use a whole other device such as a lap top.

Again, do you see your sheer and raw obsession with this? It's what proves you're actually doing it. As opposed to just addressing the actual argument about fonts or scanlation. Hell, you could even address both things in your posts, but the fact you tunnel vision on crying about getting caught proves what you're doing.

>>153906918
Why are you talking to yourself? It won't work or fool anyone.
>Don't you see that all he wants to do is throw insults at people?
See, this might actually make sense if it wasn't for the fact I told you multiple times to just stop addressing this topic and actually talk about scanlation.

>>153907021
Please fuck off.

>>153907036
Why should I when you are the problem?

Now that Killing Bites is getting an anime, is anyone going to pick it up?

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Middle or bottom?
(Ignore the I's and the right bubble)

>>153881595
>webm
Thanks. I wish I knew this years ago.

>>153883054
>>153884237
I microwaved some tanks and it worked pretty well. Just make sure the pages don't have a metallic finish.

>>153907414
Bottom. But make the fonts and even size in both bubbles.

Also shape the first bubble like this:
But, what
should I
do...?

>>153906062
Got raws?

>>153907311
I'd like but nobody want to TL it

>>153907414
Middle. Redrawing bubbles is not something I'm fond of it.

>>153907414
Middle.

>>153904754
you know this is an debatable preference, for example the official owner of manga's licenses here in my country use only all caps fonts for dialogues and a mix of lower and upper case when the author of the manga wants to make a prologue to the story or maybe add off topic stuff at the end of the manga. I can't tell why but this is the logic used here by our comics/manga brands when they translate manga

>>153907414
Don't fuckin redraw bubbles, please. It's very rare that that might be necessary. And, when it's not necessary, you inadvertently encourage the bubble guy in this thread to keep typing; which will, on occasion, cause more people to do that shit for no reason.

>>153907992
Mhm. Go to your bookshelf and open a few. All caps.

>>153907992
It's not. You are factually wrong. Just like you are factually wrong for how you type.
The very post you are replying to explains how it's factually wrong. Because it makes things less clear.

>>153908125
indeed, but there are cases when they uses a mix of lower and upper case fonts, for example for Death Note when they translated the rules (jeez.. it's been years since I last read a manga made of paper and not a scan..)

>>153907769
Yeah. Can you give me an email?

>>153887237
>バイバイ人類
I remember reading the first chapter of this, it was pretty weird.

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>be freetard
>everyone uses Photoshop
>all the guides are for Photoshop
W-Who GIMP here?

>>153908485
thepiratebay.org

>>153908485
Photoshop is free, you mong.

>>153908575
no need to download from others, just download the official ISO from Adobe website and use AMTEmu to patch the amtlib file. here, just in case:

>File name: amtemu.v0.9.2-painter.exe
>MD5: 8abdc20f619641e29aa9ad2b999a0dcc

>>153908575
>thepiratebay
Yuck

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>>153908584
Photoshop is free as in free beer, not free as in freedom.

>>153908927
What's wrong with it?

>>153873378
I'm just waiting for SnY to be released, so we can all see what happens in ch72

>>153908991
freedom isn't free
it costs folks like you and me

>>153908782
Is this how to get to the ISO?
https://creative.adobe.com/products/download/photoshop

Is there a reason why some typesetters don't horizontally center text? Or are they just shit at it?

>>153909185
no, that's a wizard, what you really want is a full offline installer. this is the correct page for the latest Adobe programs https://helpx.adobe.com/creative-cloud/kb/creative-cloud-apps-download.html

1. login with your AdobeID and download the program
2. once you have download the program, disable your internet
3. install the program you downloaded
4. do not start the program yet or if it opens automatically just close it
5. launch amt emu, select your program and find the installation directory of said program in order to patch the amtlib file. you generally find it in /program_name/support files
6. once you successfully patched the amtlib you can close amtemu, reconnect internet and start your program

>>153909425
They are shit at it. Care yo show me an example?

>>153909472
Thank you, anon.

>>153909539
one more thing, it may not be the latest program version so if you want to update the program just open creative cloud, download and install the update. once everything is done it should overwrite the original amtlib file so you'll have to patch it again with amtemu. don't worry if you see trial expired after the update installation, you just need to repatch again the amtlib file as I said

So can you actually paste hearts and things like that? Every time I try to paste one of these fuckers, I end up with a white square.

>>153909932
Change the font to one with a unicode format.
Use meiryo or something. Most OS's come with that one installed already.

>>153910023
>all those symbols
Holy shit, thank you, anon.

>>153908327
I wanted to read it before committing so I guess I'll pass.

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>by 2030 scanlating will be automated
Can't wait.

>>153907311
I and I think2 others actually offered to edit it a couple of times. seems no TL was ever interested in it sadly

Does anyone ever happen to get this mag? It has an ebook version so ripping it should be easy. there are a couple of series in it I'd love to see raws of. https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%94%E3%82%AA%E3%83%B3%E7%83%88-2017%E5%B9%B42%E5%8F%B7-%E9%9B%91%E8%AA%8C-%E8%B0%B7%E6%BE%A4%E5%8F%B2%E7%B4%80-ebook/dp/B01MTF8UZK/

>>153910302
I can't imagine anything that far into the future. Do you really still plan to be reading comic books and watching anime when you're 50?

Though, granted, I can't really think of anything else I'd rather be doing.

>>153910186
That's fine, I just didn't want to post the raws here since they aren't mine.

>>153910563
Yes, I plan to read comics and manga my entire life.
My dad got me into it and he still does at 60 so I imagine I will too.

Has anyone ever used the script from a fansubbed anime for something you're scanlating?

>>153901862
Is anonymous uploading enabled or did they kibosh that like they said they did. They banned me from the IRC channel for calling traps gay.

>>153910664
Don't.

>>153909476
See >>153907414

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>>153910513
I wouldn't bother with the digitals for retsu, they don't look too good. Pic related.
I do have #9-11 2016 if what you're looking for is in there.

>>153910302
Can't basic cleaning/cropping/leveling be automated thanks to neural networks? I'm pretty sure you could teach a network to detect and clean bubbles and crop scanned pages to the right ratio these days.

>>153910881
Oh, you meant centering the text in the bubble.

>>153910632
We simply need a lot of people reading comics to make it socially acceptable, you know, the majority rule. Don't let the normies win, become the normie through the path of cultural victory.

>>153910946
Yes.
Google can also do things like detect and extract speech bubble shapes from comics. OCR is good too.
The biggest hurdle is probably the actual translation portion but I think they'll be big strides in JP->EN in 13 years, even if it's not totally automated you could have most of it automated to point where anybody could just let it run then sanity check translation and typesetting etc.

>>153910946
Maybe some of the basic stuff, but cleaning often involves redrawing because of the tendency of mangaka to place significant text outside of the bubbles. Making it look asthetically, "right" is not a trivial task.

>>153910881
>>153910997
What's wrong with the centering?

What's /a/'s opinion on ellipsis?
In response to some tards saying official english releases are essentially word of god, I've been seeing a lot of:
>"...dialog..."
>"... (linebreak) dialog"
>"dialog (linebreak) ..."

I tend to get rid of leading elllipsis myself since those tend to be handled by the fact that multiple narration-boxes are segmenting the dialog well enough already.

Keeping ellipsis attached to the word instead of splitting to a second line is good practice? Or no? As in:
>"dialog..."
maybe
>"...dialog"
but not
>"... (linebreak) dialog" or "dialog (linebreak) ..."

>>153912055
I don't really give a shit... I try to keep ellipses on the same line as the text and try to format them as you would in English, but I put them on their own line when you can't fit them in the bubble.

... So I
was raped
by Jamal...

Leaving it as "...So I" is retarded since you need a space after an ellipse.

>>153912055
I typeset sentences as:
>"This is a... / text."
unless the sentence continues onto the next page, in which case I simply begin the next page like this:
>" / ... text."

Only madmen see the total absence of ellipses as not being stilted as fuck, so I tend to ignore anyone who tries to argue for that pattern. Otherwise, I'm open to suggestions/criticisms.

>>153910563
>Do you really still plan to be reading comic books and watching anime when you're 50?
Of course. Graphic novels and animations are just two more forms of art. Might as well be asking me whether I'll still watch movies when I'm 50.

>>153910302
By 2030, everything will be availabe day one like in Japan. Scanlation is going to be dead.

>>153912433
>everything will be availabe day one like in Japan.
Because it will be automated.

>>153910781
No one will find out if you change some of the words

>>153914428
You can read the thread for yourself, or read the news on the site for yourself.

>>153914498
I was only pretending to be retarded.

>>153914514
Shit, you got me!

>>153913893
I'll kill you

>>153911841
Right bubble from middle is not centered.

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>>153873378
Working on stuff only a few people actually read

>>153914626
the unsung hero is the grandest hero

>>153914626
What stuff?

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>>153914626
>putting your heart and soul into scanlating a manga that gets read by 50 people

>>153880047
I dunno if you're in a hurry but Manga Zip usually posts WSJ scans for each week

>>153912055
I don't add any ellipsis. Manga are built in a way that makes it easy to follow the text, and the original also doesn't need such help for the reader.
I think it's unnecessary. Though they also don't bug me when reading.

>>153914941
haruka-yumenoato is the real source of these I think

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>>153914878
>translate any pre-90's manga
>gets ignored by 95% of people, the only comments you ever get are "omg this is so old lol"

>>153914878
When you think about it though 50 is a lot.
Imagine standing in front of room and 50 people all clapping for you.

>>153915932
>Imagine standing in front of room and 50 people all clapping for you.
I don't have to imagine it, happens to me every day here in America.

>>153915964
10/10
Fucking hell, I didn't see that coming.

>>153915964
*claps*

>>153915964
>>153916004
I don't get it. Is this some kind of AA joke?

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>>153916107
"Americlaps" has been a joke for a long time.

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>>153915964

>>153906062
I'll give it a read real quick, I already know where to get the raws.

Anybody know what happened to the scanlation group Kotonoha?

I am struggling with two bubbles that are related to each other (but from different chapters).

The first bubble is on this page:
https://e-hentai.org/s/8d892dc6d8/740849-4

Here is how I interpret it:
>I should not have gone on this business trip…
>My boss said it would be fun but that was bullshit…

>自然がいっぱいっていうか
>自然しかねーし
>泊まる宿は温泉で混浴だけど
>こんな辺鄙な所に若い女が
>来るわけねーだろ!
>って言う話だし
(This is the line I don't understand)

>The food was flavorless and boring
>And on top of all that I have to work hard…

>But despite all that, I went for the one in a million chance of it happening.
Then he says he is the only guest and his dreams are crushed...

The same thing about his manager comes up in the next chapter too.
https://e-hentai.org/s/a190bc3125/786591-22
>幽霊や妖怪でも
>もう一度会いたくて
>課長に無理言って
>出張してきたんだ!

He goes back to the inn because he just needed to meet the girl again, even if she was a ghost or whatever. But I don't understand the part about his manager.
Can anyone explain what he says about his manager both in the first and second chapter?

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https://www.mediafire.com/folder/tctmc4k0f9knq/Mitsuhashi_Otoya

I scanned an old anthology by Garo artist, Mitsuhashi Otoya.

>>153902936
Hush Hush, Victory Speech, Mild Mannered, Joe Kubert, Totally Awesome, Kiss and Tell, Astro City is also good but I prefer it as a narration font.

>>153917265
In the second chapter, is he saying:
>I did not care if you were a ghost or demon, I just had to meet you again! My boss said I could not take another business trip until now!
But that sounds weird because it's only been a week...

some properly pick otome sensou
it's still machine translated shit right??

>>153917265
What part of the first chapter are you having trouble with?
All of the quoted japanese text there (that doesn't actually reference his manager)?

In the second chapter, he basically says he wanted to see her so badly that he pestered his boss to let him make another business trip (無理を言う is like "ask the impossible of")

>>153910922
Yeah I know. the resolutions aren't that great, but it's what's readily available. I was working on chichi chichi from it. Bought both volumes. Given the chapter length likely to catch up with the volumes. Kemmokko Zoo also looked pretty interesting. If you wouldn't mind posting the raws somewhere it'd be awesome.

>>153917688
>>What part of the first chapter are you having trouble with?
>All of the quoted japanese text there (that doesn't actually reference his manager)?
Yes that's the part I am struggling with, and I would like some confirmation if I understand the bubbles before and after as well (about how the food was bland and so on).

Wait, he is not referring to his manager in that text? Now I am even more confused.

>>153917688
>In the second chapter, he basically says he wanted to see her so badly that he pestered his boss to let him make another business trip (無理を言う is like "ask the impossible of")
Thanks that makes sense. I was reading that as the manager said it was impossible.

>>153917265
He's saying the place is full of nature, but there's nothing but nature around. And the lodge/inn he'll stay at (where he is now) has mixed hot baths, but because the place is so far in the boonies, there's no way young girls are ever going there.
And I guess って言う話だし indicates that the text was a conversation that took place, with his boss?

>>153916413
Thanks. If you can, let me know if you feel up to it or not.

>>153917871
>Wait, he is not referring to his manager in that text?
Sorry, I didn't express myself clearly. The quoted block by itself never explicitly referenced the manager, so I wasn't sure if you meant a different bubble.

>自然がいっぱいっていうか
>自然しかねーし
>泊まる宿は温泉で混浴だけど
>こんな辺鄙な所に若い女が
>来るわけねーだろ!
"Oh, it's so natural!", he said.
More like, there's nothing BUT nature here.
There's a mixed bath here at the inn,
but no young girls would ever come to a place like this!


>って言う話だし
This is kinda just him talking to himself.
It's hard to explain if you don't get it, but it's just sort of a "and that's how I ended up here" sort of thing, talking to himself and narrating his experience.

>>153917493
>totally awesome
Thank you, anon. I was looking for a curvy font like that.

>>153918126
Ohhh now I get it.
I didn't understand that "自然しかねーし" was like "nothing but nature!".

I didn't understand that the last part was him talking to himself. I thought it meant that it was some conversation he had with his manager before.


Thanks both of you (if you are two separate people). That helped me out a lot.

Are the other parts accurate? That he complains about the food being bland and him having to work hard and such?
That he just went on the business trip just because he had a slim chance of meeting a girl at the mixed hot spring?

>>153918720
In the middle of complaining about the bland food and the hard work, he mentions that there aren't even any convenience stores around, which you seem to have missed.
Otherwise, seems fine.

>>153918953
Thanks a lot for all the help.

>>153919334
same

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What font would you use for this title?