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Asuka best girl.

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>>153871876

>>153871876
kimochi warui

Anyway, save it for the NGE threads.

>>153871831
Irrelevant.

It's just trying to say that there are like people around us, and you shouldn't just allow them shape you, you should shape them as well in order to create reality in which everyone is comfortable with. Shinji was just a beta who wanted his reality, but couldn't cooperate with others and was a downer, he was just following others to try to please them, without taking actions for himself.

I think when Rei grew a vagina on her forehead and inserted Shinji into it to have sex devoid of individuality while fucking Earth was a good symbolic representation of that.

>>153871831
>Eva01 eating Gendo? What?

That was Yui/Rei/Shinji's punishment for Gendo being a piece of shit

He is also the only character to not be seen as tang

>>153873484
Ok, that makes sense.
Why did giant Rei collapse if only Shinji and Asuka rejected instrumentality?

>>153873549
We don't know what really happens after that

It could just be they have the most resolve to come back. Which would explain why they were the first two, the rest could join them, but it just ends there the rest is for speculating

They could be Adam and Eva or that could be a sign that all of humanity can return.

>>153873627
Those two are the most fucked up, though.

They are far from majority of humanity.

>>153873549
They aren't the only two, just the only two we see come back. Rei collapses because Instrumentality is canceled.

>>153873627
I see.
I read some theory in the other thread >>153870901 about the rebuilds being EoE sequels after people return to their form.

>>153873702
So it's considered cancelled even if only some people return from LCL?

>>153873700
Well Asuka even in death turns on her Eva through will power chanting how she won't die

There's a reason why Eva is still so popular 20 years later

>>153873734
Yes. Instrumentality is an entirely different existence from LCL.

>>153873734
Those theories are very poorly thought out and mostly inconsistent.

the "plot" of EoE does not matter at all on any level

>>153873734
Well to be fair Rebuilds aren't very good. But they are just recaps for most of 1.0 and 2.0 then things go crazy. I think of it like a high budget fan fic

>>153873702
I think they have the choice of whether or not to come back

>>153871831
>Sorry, but was the spear entering Eva's core a methaphor for sex?
No, only fujos think that

>>153873788
What if Anno is the one posting them?

>>153873798
Well, I'd still like to understand every single point Anno tried to make to the max.

>>153873810
It would explain why 3.0+1.0 hasn't come out yet

>>153873809
Fujos think Shinji is gay for Kaworu too.

>>153873803
That's correct.

>>153871831
>Rei/Lilth declined Gendo when always before she submitted?
ye
>Shinji summoned the spear from moon?
n
>Sorry, but was the spear entering Eva's core a methaphor for sex?
It's just imagery
>Mass produced Eva's had Kaworu's soul just like NERV used Rei's as autopilot?
ye
>The theater scene was a direct address to the viewer?
ye
>What were the wings above Eva-01? Why there were 2 first and 4 later?
idk lol
>Why Eva-01 didn't awake up until Asuka was already dead?
idk lol
>Eva01 eating Gendo?
I don't think this meant anything, but idk lol
>What symbolized сrosses in the end?
idk lol
>Yui living forever in Eva?
It absorbed her
>Why Lilith died(?) if Shinji and Asuka were the only ones rejecting instrumentality?
It wasn't everyone else's call to make

>>153873826
yeah but all the expression is through the sound and images. the mythos is secondary to that. sure there's an in-universe justification for ikari's hand morphing through rei's tit, but that has no bearing on the actual image and what it's expressing

>>153873835
And that'a why they're wrong about everything

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>>153873826
No one ever really will

Not even him at this point

>>153873826
>>153873912
Still doesn't mean it's not intresting to talk about.

What you pull from NGE is up to yourself but I've had several revelations about Asuka as a character from discussion

>>153871831
Yes.
Magic. The Spear is alive and has a will of its own and can pierce AT Fields no problem, but this is what you're hung up on?
Maybe.
They used imprints of his brain waves just like the dummy plugs used Rei.
Sure.

More wings = more power
Yui is a bitch.
Yui punishing her husband while at the same time drawing him into her. Notice how she only eats his upper half and leaves his lower half (his cheating dick).
She decided to become a testament to humanity's existence. Even after humanity is dead, after the sun expands and cooks the shit out of earth, after the red giant of the sun consumes the earth, after the stars die and cool down to black dwarfs and the universe becomes bigger and colder, Yui will still be alive inside 01.
Rei gave it to Shinji to decide or not. Everyone else is still tanged, but Instrumentality is beyond reach. They're just tang. They'll have to reconstitute their AT Fields to come back.

>>153873906
I see. The thread clariffied some points.

>>153874094
anno cannot write for shit

what he can do is put together stuff visually in a way that is very striking. even genius at times imo

>>153873484
Wait a minute, wasn't Gendo present in "congratulations"? I'm pretty sure his soul made it to intrumentality.

>>153871831

>Shinji summoned the spear from moon? How?
Eva series (aka white wales) used their S2 engines on the EVA 01 in order for it to call on the Longuinus spear. The fusion of an awaken EVA (who is a basically a genetically engineered adam's clone mixted with human genes) with the spear acts like the creation of a Tree of Life (the key to the Guf chamber, the gate leading the souls realm)
>Sorry, but was the spear entering Eva's core a methaphor for sex?
They probably didn't thought of this, but who knows.
>Mass produced Eva's had Kaworu's soul just like NERV used Rei's as autopilot?
They have Dummy plugs based on Kaworu's pattern, like the one EVA 01 used to destroy EVA 04, when Shinji refused to fight (EVA 01's dummy plug is based on Rei's pattern. That's why we keep on seeing her naked in LCL filled tubes)
>The theater scene was a direct address to the viewer?
Yup.
>And some questions about:
>What were the wings above Eva-01? Why there were 2 first and 4 later?
Nothing, just something that looked cool and probably a reference to some book about angel's hierarchy (seraphin, archangles and stuff)
>Why Eva-01 didn't awake up until Asuka was already dead?
Cuz Yui don't want her little baby shinji sad.
>Eva01 eating Gendo? What?
Yui sexual needs are off the charts.
>What symbolized сrosses in the end?
Anti-Terror field monolith. To destroy humans' bodies/melt them and bring their souls to Lillith' egg.
>Yui living forever in Eva? What?
She was the first test pilot for EVA 01, but the test was a dramatic failure. She merged with the EVA.
>Why Lilith died(?) if Shinji and Asuka were the only ones rejecting instrumentality?
Shinji chosed to reject the unification of all souls. But to rebuild mankind, you need pure consensual sex. Like Adam and Eve.

>>153871876
FPBP

>>153874248
>In the scripts
Do you have some link to them?

>>153871831
>Why Eva-01 didn't awake up until Asuka was already dead?
Another anon suggested this was to make sure Shinji would cooperate with instrumentality.

>>153874272
Maybe it wasn't actually his soul but Shinji's image of him (what he wanted to see).

>>153871831
>Sorry, but was the spear entering Eva's core a methaphor for sex?
Yes, the scripts use an euphemism for penis to refer to the lance in that scene and Shinji is apparently "in ecstasy" when it enters him

>>153874330
Kek typical fujo

Oh come on, why the fuck does every single newfag think that he has to ask the most basic questions on /a/? I mean, I'm completely okay with good in-depth Eva discussions, but this is almost comical now, we have this thread every single day. Dude, if you don't understand, just lurk more, it's already posted all over the Internet. Why does everybody think that everything should be spoonfed to them, instead of taking a bit of effort. It's even more interesting to guess stuff yourself.

>>153874385
I asked for proof of anons words, I fail to see how that makes me a fujo.

>>153874330
No...you can google them? Also I deleted that post bc I thought that I would answer OP directly

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>>153871876
All you really need to know.

>>153874390
Everything is already said and done before:
"There is nothing new under the Sun"

Just let it go and enjoy the ride or ignore the thread.

>>153874390
>Why does everybody think that everything should be spoonfed to them
I don't. If people feel like having a discussion that's fine if not, that's fine too.

However it's more interesting to have a discussion instead of reading some stuff people put out there as axioms.

>>153874430
They call everyone a fujo because they're mad at how Anno hates waifufags but likes fujos

>>153874272
Yeah, but in End of Evangelion, you see his corpse deliberately not dissolve. It's made clear he was left out because you could also see Ritsuko's orange shape beside him or something.

>>153874528
Yeah, on websites you will see outdated and biased opinions anyway *cough* Evageeks *cough*

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Friendly reminder in case anyone has forgotten.

>>153874544
So this was kind of retconned in Rebuild? (as in gendo still existing and being the one who remembers).

>>153874603
Asuka has no memento.

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>>153874663

>>153874685
Weren't they the hair things? Not him

>>153874491
Asuka is very sexual but seriously mentally disturbed. Many /a/nons like her because they like to think that they are better than her and that they could fix her with their love/dick. These /a/nons are closeted normalfaggs and should see a therapist and leave /a/ for a real life a relapse here, I should know - also had a girl like Asuka in bed - fun at the beginning but goes to shit very fast - once you get the basic moves of putting your dick into vagina a girl like that is pure torture.
The other half of /a/nons that like Rei are mostly autistic and just want to fuck a doll or "download" a personality of choice into her, also very attractive body and go with that.

>>153874685
What are hair clips

>>153874651
No, Rebuild is separate.

>>153874738
You don't understand humans, senpai

>>153874738
I find it funny Asuka has ended up being the more complex character than Rei even as a normal human girl

Based anno

>>153874685
>forgetting the baby Shinji left in her womb

>>153874738
Not everyone wants to fix Asuka, some people just enjoy arguing.

>le characters are mentally disturbed
Do people actually know what this means? I mean, half of /a/ posts shit like that and I clearly understand that these people judge personalities by SoL archetypes. Kids in Eva behave like totally normal kids with complexes and fears, hell, they behave like Anno and me. When will this "twisted fucking psychopaths" meme end? Sure, their reactions to stuff are harsh due to extensive childhood traumas but that doesn't make them mental patients, they just need to grow up a bit, which they do btw.

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>In the climax of the story, Asuka and Shinji are in Misato's kitchen
>On the table are two lone, empty mugs
>Mugs hold liquid, like an A.T. Field keeping the humans separate
>The two mugs are Shinji and Asuka, the only two who chose to live outside of the sea of instrumentality, represented by the full coffee pot
>It was them who flipped over the table and set everything in motion
>When it is over, the coffee is on the floor, with two broken mugs beside it
>Just like the two broken children at the end, on the shores of the red sea
>this is reinforced by the parallel strangling in both scenes

I think they'll repair their mugs.

>>153874790
You are right, I don't. And neither do you. That's why we are here kouhai.

>>153874885
>they just need to grow up a bit, which they do btw

actually they never make it past 14

>>153874911
do you think they were drinking decaf or regular

>>153874748
We still can't say for sure. It might all reconnect in the final one. They'd turn out sequels.

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>>153874911
What the fuck

>>153874651
Gendo has a backup clone

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>>153874810
Anno deliberately tried to make Asuka as realistic and relatible as possible.

>>153874911
This is some annoposter-tier symbolism analysis. Good job.

>>153875006
Is that why she's a roastie cunt?

>>153874738
True.
There is no good waifu material in Eva, they're all fucked up beyond repair.

>>153875006
>Rebuilds Asuka
>lol Beastfangs with a glowing eye patch that changes when she's angry

>>153874911
>drinking coffee out of a mug
>not using the superior stainless-steel thermos

I would probably want to join Instrumentality too if A.T. fields were based off shit coffee mugs.

>>153874885
It's not a meme. Ok it is but that's not the point.
The point is they are mentally disturbed like in personality disorder way, often neurotic, which is understandable under the circumstances, and sometimes psychotic (also understandable) but yeah - pretty much the definition of mentally disturbed. Not mentally ill beyond repair - notice the difference.

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>>153875035
But anon, Asuka is a virgin.

>>153875035
yes

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>>153875006

>>153875102
Didn't she fuck someone in Instrumentality?

>>153875051
>What is Misato

>>153874911
Good job /a/non. Even if it is a repost, still good job. I salute you.

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>>153874911
T-that actually adds up

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>>153874934
Drinking coffee stunts your growth.

>>153875006
To this day Asuka still is an enigma to me. I can't understand her the same way I can't understand real life women. Good job, Master

>>153875149
Well everyone is naked in instrumentality, but Asuka shows she is clueless about sex. "something adults do to feel they are worth something"

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>>153874911
Just wait a seco
just
Oh fuck it makes sense

>>153875168
Misato is a lust drived drunken lost woman, who barely overcomed her childhood trauma. She probably hates her dad as much as Shinji hates his.
And she is not able to have intimate relationships with people unless they include some sort of sexual contact.

>>153875268
>"something adults do to feel they are worth something"

But this is true for so many "adults".

>>153875328
That's only half of it, sex is something people do because of urges and it feels good.

>>153874911
Dubs are speaking the truth.

>>153875268
OBVIOUSLY, SHE'S 13

>>153875424
Because either she's distanced from everyone and doesn't let people close to her or she fucks them.

>>153875434
You didn't know what sex цwhen you were 13?

>>153875364
I agree that there is (or at least should be) mo to sex than
>"something adults do to feel they are worth something"
but, really for most people around me and from admittedly limited personal experience I can say that the quote stands quite strong.
The possibly surprising part is the "urge" and "feel good" part are also often low or non existent in sex-having population.

>>153874911
>The pot containing the rest of the coffees falls behind them first

>>153875424
Sex for the sake of contact is bad, since you then refuse the actual contact - emotional one. You may fuck a girl, but talking to her, sharing your pain with her, your soul, opening up to her, appreciating her support, trying to understand each other - that's what the true intimacy is, sex must compliment it, it mustn't be some artificial alternative to it, it never could actually. You fall in love, open up, share your soul with a person and then you have sex, become one with this person. This is also a message in Eva

>>153875508
*is

Hello friends, i'm writing an essay for school about existentialism in Evangelion who wants to write it for me

>>153875563
Fuck off!

>>153875508
Spotted the Slav. Are you the one berating 4chan on those 2ch threads or the one praising it?

>>153871831
Just look this shit up. There's already been plenty of people that have explained the entire plot.

>>153875563
kys

>>153875538
Was this the reason why Shinji was completely disgusted with Misato?

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>>153875584

>>153875584
јy хев сомтинг агеинст славс бич?

>>153875508
No, I was a good kid like Asuka

>>153875593
And it's still fun to talk about it!
That's why it's considered to be a masterpiece.

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>>153875563
>be me
>have 100 word essay due this monday about existentialism in Evangelion for my high school Nippon class
>mfw have been shitposting on /a/ instead and haven't even started it

Why, my peanus weanus of course. HAHAHAHHA W3EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE LE SHITPOST WEEEEEEEEEEEE

EPIC.
EPIC FOR THE WIN, LE KIND GENTLESIR.

>>153875673
I'm sorry to hear it, anon

>>153875657
No, I really don't, it's just that those 2ch threads are pure shitposting. Not like it's better here, but those move too fast.

>>153875602
He didn't want to be used like that. He saw how she ran away from her actuall feeling refusing to face the root of the trauma pretty much like everyone else in Eva and he didn't want to have that kind of relationship with her.

>>153875703
100 word essay are you kidding me that's less than twitter's character limit

>>153875731
Then it's all good.
2ch is bigger shit-hole than 4ch anyway.

>>153875673
Asuka threw herself at Kaji

Repeatedly

>>153875731
Do you talk about /a/? I don't think I saw 2ch shitpost thread here in ages.

>>153875673
>good kid like Asuka
She almost goaded him into masturbating in front of her while flaunting her thighs to him.

Not to mention she tried to fug Kaji at the beginning before he turned her down.

Asuka is an impure heathen.

>>153875832
She was just imitating what she thought grownups did, poor girl

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>>153875816
>falling for this shitty bait

>>153875816
He's shitposting

>Tfw no scene where asuka won't join instrumentality so the other girls have to break down her a.t. field with ecstasy and make her melt, literally.

>>153875857
I didn't get your question, ESL-kun
You may ask me in Russian, I understand it

>>153875832
One of the reasons why Asuka will sleep around when she gets older.

>>153875901
>>153875904
I'm really stupid

>>153875891
Damn, Misato was her guardian when she was a kid. That's who taught her all this shit, she imitating her, I guess in understand the symbolism in Asuka wearing Misato's shirt. She's really just a kid

>>153875916
You're not even trying anymore, cancer-kun

Will you accept rebuilds as canon if Anno will logically connect them with NGE-EoE?

>>153876085
YES AND I HOPE EVERYONE CRIES ON THST FATEFUL DAY

>>153876085
In the last film, I mean

>>153875891
>>153875934
Her whole character was so she could be an "adult"

It makes sense. Really piles onto that rejection thing

>>153876085
Rebuilds are canon regardless of whether fans accept them or not.

>>153876193
Yes but they could be a separate alternative ends or a direct continuation of the story.

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Is being Asuka suffering?

>>153876085
I will accecpt them if they turn out good

>>153876270
Yes. Asuka had the hardest life.

>>153876329
*Rei

>>153876085
No, they are soulless cashgrabs
>>153876348

>>153876348
No, Rei isn't human.

>>153876363
Jesus, mate. How did you have the time and patience to set all this up?

>>153874714
>>153874741
>>153874831
Hair clips aren't mementos.

>>153876329
Asuka had the easiest life.

Rei had the hardest.

>>153876410
Don't need to be human to have a life.

>>153875538
this

>>153876493
No, I would say
Rei -> Asuka -> Shinji
Shinji had the best life

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>>153876363
Reifag in his best.

>>153876363
Nice false flagging, asukafag.

>>153876498
She's had the most people rescue her and was the most ready to die

>>153876493
>>153876498
She has a false soul and body.

>>153876579
Probably because she dies multiple times and has a fragile clone body.

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>>153876579
That's more Shinji. Three different people sacrificed their lives for him but he still thought nobody cared

>>153876455
Prove it

>>153876658
That's the major theme for episode 26. He foolishly believes what he thought because he hates himself.

>>153876658
>three
?

>>153876727
Rei, Misato, Kaworu

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>>153875434
13 and trying to do what she's seen in soaps. You're kissing wrong if nobody gets dipped and people being vulnerable at eachother is gross.

>>153876666
Works the other way around, but I'll bite:

Rei: Her glasses remind her of a PAST event, and have a very special and personal meaning to her, and reminds her of a specific event. (Gendo breaking into the plug to save her, breaking his glasses in the process)

Misato: Her cross reminds her of a PAST event, and have a very special and personal meaning to her, and reminds her of a specific event. (Her father saving her from 2nd Impact, leaving his cross with her)

Shinji: His SDAT reminds him of a PAST event, and have a very special and personal meaning to him, and reminds her of a specific event. (His father abandoning him, and leaving the SDAT)

Asuka: has a standard set of hairclips like every other every pilot. Reminds her of no event, has no special meaning to her, and is given no thought by the character in no specific scene.

Basically, Asuka is a shallow shit character.

>>153876769
How the fuck does Kaworu count?

>>153876605
>She has a false soul and body.

Does it matter if it's artificial? Rei's soul is that of Lilith's, and is only false insofar it's artificially embedded into an artificial body.

Having an artificial body is only making Rei's life more difficult and depressing, just look at all the haters who dismiss Rei as "non-human".

>>153876769
Well technically Rei and Kaworu didn't die.
And Misato did it not for him, but rather for the sake of humanity, NERV even Asuka.

>>153876769
Kaworu is more of a "kill or be killed" death, he threatened Shinji that humanity would die if he didn't die.

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>>153871876
Childhood is arguing about Asuka and Rei, adulthood is realizing that Misato is best girl.

>>153876899
Cause he was like, I love you, I want you to live, you deserve the future but Shinji was still "NOBODY CARES SO THEY CAN ALL JUST DIEEEE!!!"

>>153876937
Well Rei II the only good Rei did die

He didn't know how to process his friend was a clone and avoided her afterwards

>>153876951
But that wasn't true at all. So he basically sacrificed himself.

>>153876951
This.

>>153876769
Scratch Kaworu, he didn't sacrifice himself for Shinji.

>>153876874
>I need to be shown a specific event to be convinced or at least theorize about this event being special
>if others possess it it must not be special
You're basically a retard then, like most Asuka haters, I guess I'm not amazed. Also it's not indicated that his father left him SDAT in the original. So you must also be a rebuildbabby. It's double bingo or something then

>>153876976
Rei II is Rei III, and Rei I. Get the fuck out secondary.

>>153876986
Kaworu seemed incredibly indifferent to the whole thing

>>153877034
He sees no value in existing, even if he did love Shinji, he still wants to die

>>153876999
Haha, face it loser, you got blown the fuck out. It does need to fulfill all of those criteria, and guess what? Your shitty fanwank doesn't count.

>B-BUT IN MY FANFIC ASUKA HAS IT AS AS MEMENT-
Doesn't count loser.
>B-BUT IN MY HEADCAN-
Doesn't counter, loser.
>B-UT P-PLEA-
No, loser.

Asuka doesn't have a memento. Odd one out, put your shitty fanfic Asuka into the trash bin where she belongs.

>>153877021
Oh is that why Rei couldn't remeber why she had Gendo's glasses?

>>153876986
He said humanity would die if he lived, that's a threat. He also specifically wanted Shinji to kill him. which is like physiological torture for him because he hates killing people.

>>153877034
Yes because he didn't see differences between life and death. But he still choose humanity and ultimately Shinji over himself when he didn't have to.

>>153876986
>But that wasn't true at all. So he basically sacrificed himself.
No, a sacrifice is done in order to save or avoid something.

Kaworu didn't do any of that. The only danger he ever prevented, was one he threatened with himself. Kaworu didn't sacrifice himself at all, he only made things worse.

It's a character that isn't meant to be taken seriously, it's a plot device.

>>153877075
Then why try to initiate 3rd Impact at all!

>>153877120
Miscommunication is one of the major themes in Eva

>>153877100
>He said humanity would die if he lived, that's a threat
That wasn't true though. He made that up because he wanted to die by Shinji's hands.

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>>153877089
>Oh is that why Rei couldn't remeber why she had Gendo's glasses?

She could, that's why she crushes them in anger. Gendo didn't even show up to greet her at the hospital, that's cold.

>>153876999
>memento
>an object that you keep to remember a person, place, or event:

There isn't any scene or meaning applied to Asuka's hair pins. There are things and events that tie themselves to e.g Rei's glasses or Misatos' cross. Those are mementos.

The hairpins which everyone gets, are not. You can't just make up a scene or moment that Asuka remembers. Man, why the fuck are Asuka fans such shallow shitheads that can't keep their fanon from canon?

I've always seen Kaworu as a manipulative shit. Can you disprove that?

>>153877188
This phrase:
>Miscommunication is one of the major themes in Eva

is only uttered by retards who can't explain shit about what they're seeing.

>>153877187
Cause that was his destiny, his reason for existence, according to SEELE who were telling him to take the world back for the angels. But since he doesn't have a reason fo existence bc it wasn't Adam he supposes he'd rather die. Also he wanted Shinji to defeat unit 01 and waited for him to catch him

>>153877219
He was, fujos and retards misinterpret the character and literally fall for marketing jingo in gay magazines.

>>153877203
>that's why she crushes them in anger. Gendo didn't even show up to greet her at the hospital, that's cold
Are you fucking with me?

>>153876967
Misato is just an intelligent Stacy and Asuka just wants friends. Rei is fucked up.

>>153877021
No she isn't. She can share their memories (up to her last save), but she knows full well who and what she is.

That's why her personality is like a huge reset; Rei II had breakthroughs with Shinji that Rei III never experienced.

>>153877219
Anno said he was created to be an extremely kind person who could be liked by anyone. He's only manipulative in Rebuild, in NGE he's completely naive

>>153877282
No.

>>153877298
Rei is actually the least fucked up female character in Eva.

25 and 26 are canon

End isn't

>>153877311
Yes, she is. The same soul and conscious goes from body to body, they literally explain this in episode 23. Pay attention.

>>153877340
Depends on how you define "fucked up".

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>>153877259
>that was his destiny
>he doesn't have a reason fo existence

>>153877324
Then you haven't watched the goddam show

>>153877374
>Depends on how you define "fucked up".
Mentally unstable, traumatized.

>>153877374
I did pay attention. Rei III treats Shinji differently, he notices it and that's the audience's first clue that she's not who she seems to be.

That and she was fucking obliterated.

>>153877398
>Then you haven't watched the goddam show

Try again.

>>153877398
The point I was making before with sacrifice.
>that was his destiny
But he choose to die instead of returning to SEELE and possibly continue searching for Adam. And he did so because he felt sympathy towards humans.

>>153874704
>push beds together
>sleep in middle
>if Asuka doesn't like it, she can sleep on the floor
Oh Shinji-kun

>>153877374
No she isn't. That's why you are also shown a scene with three different Reis in the End.

>>153877440
It was obvious for the audience the moment we saw Rei II sacrificing herself.

>>153877398
He thought he had a reason for existence, turns out he didn't. Should have phrased that better

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>>153877462
https://kissanime.io/Anime/Neon-Genesis-Evangelion.38935/Episode-023?id=5257

>>153877440
No you didn't pay attention retard. Rei is Lilith, the Seed of Life who created all mankind.

When Rei dies, they plug her soul into a new body. This is reincarnation. This is why Ritsuko explains that the clones have no souls and aren't alive, and that there is only one Rei Ayanami. Ritsuko says also that the clones are spare parts.

So Rei's body was obliterated, and with her all the memories until the last save. With me so far?
But, because Rei's soul and conscious is transferred, Rei is also able to "remember" some things, like how she had cried before she died. She couldn't have remembered this, but she does still.

>>153877398
You didn't watch the show. Rei crushes the glasses and reflects on how Gendo is keeping her from what she wants.

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>>153877536
>No she isn't. That's why you are also shown a scene with three different Reis in the End.
You're shown a scene with dozens of different Rei's. They're all projections of Rei's psyche at that point. There's also a Rei in episode one.

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>>153877536
Here you go kid, with a bonus Rebuild comparison to boot.

>>153877199
That was Karl, he cold outlined the three ways he could die and how what he was doing was pursuing his favorite one. TV was sure people suffered to live because they didn't know they could just stop and die instead.

>>153877536
see >>153877578
>>153877622
>>153877663

>>153877578
Hmmm, I don't think I've been clear. I agree with your premise, but I don't think it's a 1:1 switch. Like if you had a clone who had all your memories, but was aware he was a clone.

Rei both is and isn't the same person.

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>>153877282
Rei crushing the glasses symbolizes her broken faith and anger with Gendo.

>>153876085
Never. Only makes them LESS canon.

>>153877807
You're full of shit. Just forget everything you wrote, it doesn't make sense. "Both IS and isn't"? You need to chose one.

Rei is credited as one character, and she is developed as one character. She is reincarnated, and what happens with Rei is equivalent to trauma and memory loss. Rei has always been aware she's a clone, except only when she was a child maybe .

The "clone bodies" in the tank aren't Rei Ayanami. This is explicitly stated.

>>153877663
A character getting little screen-time doesn't imply they're cliched/inferior, but we never get to see whether they really were because of it. I also wouldn't say it necessarily makes it weaker. I mean Rei actually dies now when her clone dies, which has it's own consequences that Shinji comes to realize in 3.33.

>>153877807
There isn't anything to disagree with, it's the canon. Rei 1 = Rei 2 = Rei 3, it's the same character and person who's died twice and been resurrected twice.

>>153877832
I thought it was symbolizing how she doesn't remember him saving her anymore

She states she doesn't know why they are familar in episode 23

>>153877807
Reread this again >>153877663
The bodies in the tank weren't clones they were spare parts, dummies.

>>153877807
I know the answer: shit writing

>>153874911
Why the hell does this makes sense? Jesus Christ.

>>153877940
>A character getting little screen-time doesn't imply they're cliched/inferior

That's exactly what it does. With little or not screentime and when it follows a common cliche (clone in this case), the assumption is always that it's cliched and inferior. This is also coincidentally why Rei Q is reviled by everyone who doesn't hate Rei.

>which has it's own consequences
The consequences being a weaker character.

>>153877955
Rei III clearly has different memories and personalities compared to Rei II

>>153877981
> she doesn't know why they are familar
She doesn't know, but she feels they are. See >>153877578

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>>153877981
How the fuck does that make sense? Why would she randomly start crushing the glasses? She starts crying as well damnit.

>>153878012
>Rei III clearly has different memories
Yeah, so? Someone with memory loss has different memories, and you have different memories from what you had yesterday, because you've made new ones. A different personality?

Well guess what, going through something traumatic or losing one's memory has a tendency to change one's personality just a tad - or a fucking lot.

But she remembers who everyone is, she knows how to speak, she's not a full reset and she's damned smart to figure it all out.

>>153877900
>what happens with Rei is equivalent to trauma and memory loss
That's a good way of putting it, but that's a fair bit of memory loss.

Our memories shape who we are as a person though. If we lose that, we die in a sense.

>>153878004
Anno, you sneaky bastard.

>>153878021
Yeah but she doesn't remeber Gendo burning his hand trying to save her months before NGE began

That's why she liked him, and only reacted to Shinji when he insulted his father, not going into her room

>>153877981
>She states she doesn't know why they are familar in episode 23
No, she doesn't say anything like that about the glasses.

>>153878109
>That's a good way of putting it, but that's a fair bit of memory loss.
No? It's maybe a few days to a couple of weeks.

>in a sense
Get lost. Stop being retarded.

>>153871831
I just finished watching today too. What the fuck is the point of the Tree of Life that forms with Eva-01? I got all the lore and shmbolisms and life lessons except for that.
Also, why were the human souls going back to lilith's egg?

>>153878125
>Yeah but she doesn't remeber Gendo burning his hand trying to save her months before NGE began
That's bullshit. Don't just make shit up. There's nothing like this hinted at in the entire show.

>>153878125
Are you just trolling at this point?

>>153878200
I wonder if it's an Asukafag or something. Rei is genuinely 2deep4 a lot of people apparently.

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>>153878158
Pic related

>>153878104
It's been several months. Almost a year passes between the start and end of NGE iirc

>>153878011
>when it follows a common cliche
Using clones for spare bodies isn't exactly novel either.

>the assumption is always that it's cliched and inferior
Indeed, you're assuming this because she's had little screen-time.

It's one thing to have a character get a lot of screen-time and still be cliched, and another thing if they get little screen-time and to assume she would have been cliched had she been given more time.

>This is also coincidentally why Rei Q is reviled by everyone who doesn't hate Rei.
That's understandable, they're very different characters.

>>153878188
>What the fuck is the point of the Tree of Life that forms with Eva-01?

It's an embryo for souls.

People who still analyze this movie are idiots.

Just have to make anything mildly abstract and you morons will dig for your lives.

>>153878200
>>153878199
>>153878261

https://kissanime.io/Anime/Neon-Genesis-Evangelion.38935/Episode-023?id=5257

16:56

>>153878268
She's speaking of the tears, not the glasses. You know. The title of the episode?

Those are bad subs as well.

>>153878158
>No? It's maybe a few days to a couple of weeks.
Look, all I'm saying is that she's not the exact same person.

Alright, reincarnation is like taking a glass of water and pouring it into a different glass. We're not arguing that her body has been literally replaced. What we're arguing about is whether or not the fact that her memories are backed up makes her a completely different person here.

There's no real way to settle a philosophical debate about the nature of existence, especially in the context of a work of fiction.

>>153878278
>Using clones for spare bodies isn't exactly novel either.
Actually, it is - it's rarely done in fiction. The normal go-to scenario is the clone army setup.

>Indeed, you're assuming this because she's had little screen-time.
It's not an assumption. It's a fact. Clones dying for shock value have been done since forever. That's why absolutely no one cares.

>>153878346
Got any good ones then?

>>153878356
>There's no real way to settle a philosophical debate about the nature of existence
Not that a moron like you would ever know how.

>>153878340
Fuck off then

>>153878328
What does the embryo do? What role did it play during and/or after the third impact?

>>153878356
>There's no real way to settle a philosophical debate about the nature of existence, especially in the context of a work of fiction.

Yeah, there fucking is. It's about continuity. Not copies existing. These are points made, and are obvious to every person out there.

In NGE, the top domain is the soul. If the soul does not disappear, then neither does the person. This is the basis for instrumentality and in fact, all human life. With Rei, it is demonstrated clearly.

Applying that to real life is simple: clones/twins aren't the same person. People who lose their memories are the exact same person, but with a changed personality. He didn't die and get replaced, he got changed.

>>153878438
You're the one who needs to fuck off. These threads only bring more idiots like yourself.

Show/Movie ended 20 years ago, it was never that great, yet dumbshits like you continue to put it on a pedestal.

>>153878421
Try Bloat or something off nyaa.

>>153878499
What defines a person then?

>>153878345
>Are these tears?
>I'm seeing this for the first time, but it feels familar.
>Am I crying?
>Why am I crying?

She refers to the tears.

>>153878534
OP was just asking questions about it though

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>>153878536
>this entire thing has been about me misinterpreting subs

>>153878410
>it's rarely done in fiction
Are you memeing me?
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BodyBackupDrive

>Clones dying for shock value have been done since forever. That's why absolutely no one cares.
No, again they're both not novel.

The reason why people (understandably) don't like the new Rei is because it's practically a completely different character who's been shafted screen-time-wise (and accordingly character-development-wise) by the change in her origin story.

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>>153878551
In NGE? The soul. In real life? The continuation of qualia.

>>153878583
I always interpreted it as trying to figure out why she's crying

But when you consider the episode title it seems it's probably not true

>>153878629
But an amnesiac wouldn't be a continuation of qualia, no?

>>153878625
>Are you memeing me?
No. These examples in that page are in the minority, and not all of them even quailfy fully, since many actually involve simultaneous, separate clone entities.

>No, again they're both not novel.
One is more novel than the other, and novelty in fiction comes through originality of character story and execution. Something present in Rei's example and Evangelion, and something absent in Rebuild.

>The reason why people (understandably) don't like the new Rei is because it's practically a completely different character who's been shafted screen-time-wise (and accordingly character-development-wise) by the change in her origin story.

Bullshit. The reason people don't like the new Rei character is because it's an outright attack on Rei's character, a form of sabtoage to ensure it's got no future in Rebuild or Evangelion. It was picking the strengths of the character, and then removing it.

>>153878499
>>153878356
>Applying that to real life is simple: clones/twins aren't the same person. People who lose their memories are the exact same person, but with a changed personality. He didn't die and get replaced, he got changed.

There are two kinds of identity in philosophy. Quantitative and qualitative. Due to the fact that Rei changed quantitative characteristics does not mean that she has changed qualitatively and vice versa.

A dummy clone of the same person is it the same object? Well yes, in some way they're both the same body, both clear personalities but it's not the exact same one clone, so their euality is qualitative.

The same soul is two different clones is the same person? Well yes, since the most part of the memories and feelings is the same, it's the exact same soul she's the same. She's equal quantitatively.

In Rei's case it's a bit more complicated since her change is in both quantitative and qualitative characteristics but the object is the same.
You're agruing over what kind of equality she has.

>>153878597
>discussing anime on /a/is bad
Just ignore the shitposter.

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>>153878625
Compare with any other number of cloning cliches:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/search_result.php?q=Clone&cx=partner-pub-6610802604051523%3Aamzitfn8e7v&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=ISO-8859-1&siteurl=&ref=&ss=

Rei's subversion of this cliche is that she isn't cloned because she's replaceable, but rather because she's irreplaceable. Her life has more value to NERV than normal children who has just "one life". Rei believes her life is worth less, and that she's imprisoned and that death is the only escape.

>Rei Q
Rei Q is hated by Evangelion fans, and loved by people who hate Rei because Rei Q is an insult to Rei made animated. After NGE Asuka fans and other Rei haters viciously attacked Rei, and called her a doll. Now they get that, their own "Rei" - Rei Q.

>>153878697
It would be a continuation of qualia. Memories are a part of you. Just like you can lose an arm, you can lose memories. Losing an arm provides you with more qualia, and losing a memory also provides you with more qualia. The continuous state of observing and experiencing.

Rei lost more than her arms, she lost her memories as well, but had a backup plus soul cloud storage service. She comes back, slightly less than what she used to be, slightly more as well because the experience changes her.

Think about how it must feel to be Rei - you're supposed to do that. It's happened again, you've been "revived".

>>153878989
There is only one that really matters. Who's the driver behind the wheel, and that's Rei AKA Lilith.

>>153879102
You refuse to think.

>>153879054
>>153879054
IT'S HIM. IT'S HIIIIIM
IT'S THE TEXTWALLING REIFAG
FUCK OFF REIFAG
REI Q AIN'T THAT BAD

>>153879140
No, I've thought it over. One describes what is inert matter, the other describes whatever part that we could call "alive" or "conscious". In NGE we do have an actual, bonafide soul.

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>>153879212
>people who hate Rei

You faggots are the worst.

>>153879292
I DON'T HATE REI, I JUST HATE THAT REIFAG. HE'S THE WORST. HE DERAILS EVERY THREAD INTO 'M-MUHH REI' AND IS THE CANCER OF EVA FANs

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>>153879356
Sounds like you're the cancer here, buddy.

>>153879102
>>153879253
She change both quantitative and qualitative characteristics. If you consider her soul (qualitative) the most important characteristic.

Since changes in the actual soul/memory/feelings are minimal in reference to major qualitative ones (bodies).
She could be considered the same object by kind of identity (qualitative but not quantitative).

That's what you were arguing about, mixing the two.

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>>153879356
>I'm cancer for talking about Evangelion

Care to tell me what exactly you're butthurt about? If anything, you're the one who's getting triggered. What I just said (bar my own opinion) is 100% true.

>>153879448
How awful and pretentious !

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>>153879420
I do see your point, but I don't see any reason to believe this:
>Since changes in the actual soul/memory/feelings are minimal in reference to major qualitative ones (bodies).

to be true. Who's to say the changes to the body isn't the least significant portion? We know Rei, without any form of physical body, is able to exist, and traverse space and time. If anything, Rei's body is at all times more of an anchor into reality.

>>153879569
Go on, tell me where it hurts. Are you OK anon?

>crazy Reifag is at it again
Remember to do the following upon detecting the crazy reifag
>Reply to him with Annoposter's hateful pasta
>Reply to him with "NOTHING WRONG WITH REI Q" statement
>Tell him to fuck off
>Completely ignore him
>Do NOT try to start an actual conversation with him, he's biased and insane
>Hide and report

>>153879356
I bet you hate cats and dogs as well.

Evangelion is an OK series, but seriously overrated. And this includes the characters.

>MUH ASUKA!
Angry, spoiled kid with envy problems. She's just like Scrappy.

>MUH REI!
"Oh, a clone". And then what? This isn't a good excuse for a flat character.

>MUH MISATO!
A pedophile who thinks sex solves anything? Yeah... nah.

>>153879783
YOU GET ME, THANK YOU

>>153879624
Well it's not my point it's Wittgenstein's point, believe it or not, it's still there. If you want to tell two objects are "equal" you have to determine "equality" first.

>Who's to say the changes to the body isn't the least significant portion?
That was my exact point if you paid attention to this post >>153879420

If she has a body, it determines her, becomes her characteristic, more specifically her qualitative characterisctic in her case. Her soul is her another characteristic. Both characteristics make the person - Rei.

So the equality in her case can be drawn only in one kind not the other one and not both. It's up you to decide if that's sufficient at your understanding of object identity or not.

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>>153880055
I don't disagree with the method, but we can push further into defining equality. There can be identical clones of Rei's body, but that cannot be true for Rei's soul. That's the one, unique thing that keeps going.

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best waifu or not, admit this reifags: Asuka has a better overall body than Rei.

>>153879941
>This isn't a good excuse for a flat character.
It is when that's the entire purpose of her existence.

>>153880256
Rei has bigger boobs.

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>>153880364
How so?

>>153880381
Isn't this Shinji Ikari Raising Project? There is one scene in it that Rei has breast envy of both Misato and Asuka.

>>153880493
Yes, but I haven't read the whole thing.

Okay but why did Shinji strangle Asuka in the final scene?

>>153880170
As I mentioned before Rei's case is complicated since in each reincarnation she changes both characteristics.

First we should decide:
What would be considered her starting point?
What characteristic is more important?
What to consider negligible changes?


These questions should be answered personally by each anon, therefore there is no right answer to:
Whether she is the same Rei or not?
What kind of identity could be drawn?

My previous post analyzed your case, i.e.
Her starting point is Rei I (with soul)
Qualitative is more important
We consider memory loss a negligible change

And from these (your) assumptions I came to conclusion:
So the equality in her case can be drawn only in one kind not the other one and not both.

Change the assumptions, the result will change.

It's not that complicated, basic philosophy.

>>153880589
Because he was mad how she rejected him, that's my guess.

>>153880589
Because death and sex are linked on a primeval level? Maybe Thanatos/Eros and all that jazz?

>>153880589
He was mad at himself that he was coward and she refused to offer him help.
We also see at the end that he cries, I think, he was just disgusted by himself.

>>153880589
Because
a) He wanted to check if it was the real world
b) She was the biggest source of his suffering and so he resented her

>>153880761
He was testing to see if he was still in instrumentality, a dream world where everything he ever wanted would happen just at the thought
so after seeing Rei on the beach, he thought
"maybe i'm still in instrumentality"
Thus, he attempts to choke Asuka, because if he is in instrumentality she'll die and won't fight back, but instead she caresses his face with care, of her own choice, thus he was back in reality, and cries at the fact that instrumentality was so fucked up and he had to resort to actually choking Asuka to make sure he wasn't in dream bubble land any more.

>>153880983
Why doesn't he just talk to her. Seems to me more like he wanted to kill her

>>153880809
>>153880761
The amusing part is he dreamed of a world with no angels or NERV, but Asuka and himself as childhood friends.

>>153881041
He probably would have kept choking her if he wanted to kill her
It was just the most direct method of testing to see if he was in instrumentality or not, because if he talked to her and she said "What are you, stupid? of course i'm the real Asuka idiot Shinji" there's no proof that its the real Asuka vs Instrumentality Asuka

>>153881041
You're thinking about this on a much higher level. He was angry, so that's where his mind went when they reformed.

They're both stupid for each other. Couples fuck and fight all the time.

>>153880639
>What would be considered her starting point?
Lilith.

>>153881128
I always thought of that scene as him thinking she hated him, despised him and rejected him. When she caressed his face, it broke him. hence "I Need You"

A month also passed, so he was by himself for a long time.

>>153881184
They're not a couple, they're barely friends

>>153881249
4u

>>153881264
It's also a parallel to when Yui touched him so he was reminded of his mother's touch

>>153881267
Well friends certainly stick their tongue in their mouth and want to hold them while they kiss, sure.

>>153881269
4everyone

>>153881264
It's possible, my interpretation was always that after surviving Instrumentality and a mental breakdown, being alone on the Earth for a month of two and then seeing Asuka on the beach with Rei floating over the water infront of Lilith's corpse, Shinji resorted to extreme measures since it shocked him to think
"Holy fuck what if I AM still in instrumentality?!"
Like Anno said, Eva is like a puzzle and there are many different interpretations and meanings to be made and found by each viewer, so there is no definitive answer here, so both our points are valid

>>153880983
>everything he ever wanted would happen
She first refused to help him in instrumentality. He wanted her to help. It was his projection of her soul but she wasn't a dummy.

>>153881332
Fine, answer the other questions I mentioned and then we talk seriously.

>>153881327
Platonic kissing, I do it all the time

>>153881338
>Like Anno said, Eva is like a puzzle and there are many different interpretations and meanings to be made and found by each viewer

Can I have a link to when he said that? Just wondering for future reference.

>>153881381
I wish I could, but I'm going to sleep. Here's hoping for tomorrow.

>>153881341
That was pre-instrumentality, he hadn't entered Liliths third eye vagina yet, that was the version of Asuka and Shinji at their core, Asuka completely defeated and apathetic, Shinji desperate for someone to tell him what to do and "help him"

>>153881414
Yeah for sure
http://www.azquotes.com/quote/638797
I know this is from some specific interview, I can't remember which, but I'm sure a google search will have it, i'm just lazy

>>153881067
Not that amusing. He felt pressure from Rei, didn't understand her, Misato was only using him. Asuka was a bitch to him, but at least she was sincere, it was probably the only genuine human relationship he experienced until meeting Kaworu.

>>153881423
Fine, good night. I don't think this thread will survive until the morning though.

>>153881522
ayy you got sick dubs though so at least thats something
Congratulations!

>>153881412
That's not platonic kissing, mate.

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Reminder that Shinji is canonically heterosexual. Keep scrolling.

>>153881267
They pretty much are

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>>153881680
Ignore that anon, its probably some tumblr fatty that hates Shinji for some reason. It posts in every single eva thread. Even admitted several times that it self inserts as Asuka.

>>153881680
It's a fucked up, abusive relationship. And no, they're not a couple just because Asuka is there in the last scene. She's only there because she and Shinji misunderstand each other the most and need to fix their shit

>>153881267
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Theory_and_Analysis:Shinji_and_Asuka's_Relationship

>>153881806
Every relationship in Eva, is a fucked up and abusive relationship. Stop trying to self insert as Asuka because you hate Shinji.

>>153881816
FUCK OFF EVAGEEKS SHIPPERSCUM

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>>153881792
>>153881806

>>153881866
Idk what you're talking about. Also was Rei II's relationship with Shinji abusive? No. Was Maya's relationship with Ritsuko abusive? No.

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>>153881806
>>153881935
>Was Maya's relationship with Ritsuko abusive?
Is this who i think it is?

>>153881816
>presenting evageeks as proof
Can you, shipperfags, even fall lower?

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>>153881867
Reminder they had the tv say in Japanese "bad kissers never work out" in this scene.

>>153881935
>Rei II's relationship with Shinji abusive?

I recall that Shinji being freaked out by Rei...

>Maya's relationship with Ritsuko abusive?

barely interacted.

>>153882060
every fucking thread, tumblrette-self inserter shows its disdain for shinji.

>>153882060
Don't change the subject. And no, I'm not ritsumaya, she died several months ago

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All the normal anons went to sleep. Asukafags took the opportunity and shitpost all over the thread with their delusional ship.

Disgusting.

>>153882156
How can a tumblrina hate Shinji if tumblr loves kawoshin?

>>153882156
That doesn't mean it's abusive. What do Shinji and Asuka do? Oh yeah Shinji tries to kill her two seperate times. She keeps on mentally and physically abusing him too. He has no respect for her and sees her only as an object of his fantasies. The true "OTP". All I can say is kimochi warui, or how disgusting.

>>153882188
Kimochi warui indeed

>>153882268
Your hatred of Shinji clouds your judgement. The fact remains that Asuka can't open herself because she can't love others.

>>153882251
Tumblr hates Shinji though, I've seen time call him misogynistic. They don't understand eva.

>>153882372
They put the girls on a pedestal too and pretend they did nothing wrong

>>153882372
They just want to pretend that his attraction to women was something bad in sake of their homoship.

>>153882459
Yes, and there is one in this thread that pretends Asuka is completely innocent.

>>153881806
Hm? They're a couple because Asuka is the deuteragonist of the series and her relationship, sexual, romantic, and otherwise with Shinji is repeatedly played out to define both of them and explore the narratives in the series.

They're two confused, horny teenagers who don't understand themselves, let alone each other.

>>153882473
He is misogynistic. You probably can't see that because you are also a man.

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>>153882540
Tumblrette confirmed, you have to go back.

>>153882537
They're a couple only if they get together. They never do. It isn't even clear what their feelings for each other are anyway. It's just toxic sexual tension, that doesn't qualify them. Fuck off shipper

>>153882540
I'm a girl btw xd

>>153882603
They're 13 years old, they aren't adults.

>>153882560
Right, because feeling entitled to women's attention and getting angry at them for giving "mixed signals" is not musogynistic when they do not have to pay attention to you in the first place? He objectifies all of them, even Rei. How disgusting