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Is there literally no one else in the known Universe they could've picked that's still alive?
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First for Mirai Trunks
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>>153804614
No. They're all dead and if they picked some literally who everyone would be bitching that they didn't pick an established character.
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Reminder
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>Frieza and his forces were the strongest in the universe
>Buu, Piccolo, 17, and 18 are all stronger than Namek saga Frieza
>Krillin, Tien, and Roshi were able to fight off waves of Frieza's grunts
>all of Frieza's elite officers are dead
No.
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>>153804614

Not that they know of

Well, there are probably a couple namekians stronger than roshi, but what would that accomplish? Let the old man visit space
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>>153804734
Pure fucking Autism
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>>153804614
Yamcha
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Guys please, whatever you prefer Manga or Anime.

Let's admit something they have in common.

How handsome Zamasu is.

I mean shit, never see a villain that hot before, it make me question my heterosexuality.

If only he was real...
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>>153804804
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>>153804666
I saw DBAF on ge-hentai, you should find english translation here, didn't read it though.

>>153803823 (You)
>>153804610
Is it worth reading it? As guy who enjoy both anime and manga for their quality, QUALITY and memes?
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>>153804779
Yeah. Honestly, if the only real alternatives' power levels are in the thousands, maybe ten thousands, then it's probably not worth bitching about.
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Where do you guys rank the Goku Black arc along with the Frieza, Cell, and Buu arcs? I'd say Frieza arc > Goku Black arc >= Cell Arc > Buu arc
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>>153804614
>no fighters from any of the two other galaxies that still exist
>no fighters from any other planet besides earth
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>>153804847
If you ignore SSJ5 shit, you should enjoy it.
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What's her endgame?
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>>153804847
>Is it worth reading it?
>Is it worth reading it? As guy who enjoy both anime and manga for their quality, QUALITY and memes?
It's definitely worth checking out, it's literally the OG fanfic doujin.
It's quite impressive too seeing Toyo grow up since his latest chapters are so much better then when he first started out as a youngling.
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>>153804904
To fight Gohan and for him to have the ultimate job against his daughter
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>>153804860
The arc as a whole I put on the fucking bottom without a second thought, but Zamasu and especially Black are some of my favorite anime villains now
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>>153804614
Now that I see the alternative designs of Cell, he is not really that perfect anymore. There were a ton of better ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGDfiTekrqk
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>>153804877
>3 strongest fighters of universe 9 are from the same galaxy, same planet, same species, same bitch
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>>153804860
The only thing I know for sure is that I unironically like it more than the Cell saga.
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>SS2 Trunks in the manga
>permanent sparked aura
>less bangs
>tension face
>inflated veins on his temple or forehead most of time


>SS2 Trunks in the anime
>"who cares remove two bangs and will be fine"
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>>153804904
GT, of course.
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>>153804847
No. It's funny how mangacucks always meme about "pedro" but "/ourguy" is literally the mastermind behind a spics wet dream.
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>>153804904
Maximum power
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>>153804614
Roshi will fight female Broly and win.
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>>153804916
Not him but, is it cringy?

I'm afraid to get brain damage if I read it.
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>>153804948
Of course Saitama > Goku. Saitama > Everyone. But the image itself is Pure Fucking Autism.
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>>153804704
the hell is even happening in that shit?
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>>153804968
>>"who cares remove two bangs and will be fine"
It's much much worse than that, it's literally a bunch of bananas.
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>>153805010
Could ONE defeat Saitama?
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>>153805010
>>153804734
But what about Saitama vs Arale?
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>>153804795
you powerlevel fags get so asspained it's hilarious.
why is it so hard to accept that gag powers can't be defeated? like jeez just look at the latest arale filler
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>>153805010
Goku>Saitama, the image was funny tho
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>>153804704
I'd let Torankusu win me everytime.
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I still think Android 17 edges out Trunks, Zamasu, and Whis as the most fuckable character in Dragon Ball.
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>>153805004
>Not him but, is it cringy?
No why would it be? The only thing that could be deemed unappealing is the fact that the villain is an edgy Goku Clone, which we're all accustomed to by now.
Besides that it's mostly just throwbacks to the original manga.
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reminder not to reply to gokucucks
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>>153804837
>Zamasu getting blacked

Basically his endgame;
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>>153805096
Whoops typo *male* character in Dragonball
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>>153804860

>evil doppleganger
>anything but trash

>>153805028

Saitama could not kill a fucking mosquito. I can kill a mosquito. I'm stronger than Saitama.
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>>153804704
>are ya winning son?
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Reminder, this is Brolette's green haired form. Toei is trying to sell us another Broly in the anime but she's just SS Green

yelow hair and regular musculature = Super Saiyan
green hair and oversized musculature = non canon Legendary Super Saiyan
green hair and regular musculature = Super Saiyan Green/female Super Saiyan/female Super Saiyan God/who knows
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>>153805097
>Started reading it
>Already regret it
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Who wouldn't want to fuck 17?

I mean daaaamn
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>>153805249
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Have we discussed this?
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>>153805249
Jesus Christ that's bad. Toyofags can't even defend this.
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i want this gohan back
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>>153805335
Cant you wait 48 hours?
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>>153805304
We don't bother. We know it's shit.
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>>153805335
Great Saiyadad is the best Gohan
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>>153804614
Arale is canon in the db universe.
As is dracula, and the fucking devil. Those two turned out to be pussies though.
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>>153805249
I already warned you he's proto-Black. You gotta go in there expecting luls.
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I wanna see vegeta in a gi
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>it's another "toeishills try it again" episode
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Leave Hit's virginity to me.
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Reminder Zamasu was a shit villain
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>>153805250
I would, but I still prefer Torankusu.
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>>153805499
Shut up, scum
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>>153805488
>1000 Year Old Virgin
Comedy spinoff when??
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I just watched Bardock movie and got damn I never ever paid attention to the end where Vegeta is being told that an asteroid hit Planet Vegeta but Vegeta himself is actually sitting around thousands of dead Saiyan bodies eating a snack pretending as if he believes the asteroid lie. That scene was hardcore as fuck.

Vegeta crying to Goku and telling him about the past in the Frieza saga is that much more impactful now.
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>>153804614
So when they assemble the ten for their team, is he gonna be outed or what?
Cause Goku is immediately gonna ask about this guy once they do.
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>>153805104
Saitamafags plz go and stay go.
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>>153805499

To be fair, he did what most DBZ villains failed to do. Who else caused genocide that is permanent?
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>>153805579
Goku already forgot he existed because he's just that dumb.
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>>153805249
>chin spikes

o-our g-g-guy
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>>153805639
Vegeta genocided Bulma purity
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>>153805703
She was never pure
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>>153805499
Please don't summon the Zamasufags
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>>153805720
>doesn't know what a penis is
>not pure
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>>153805741
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>>153805720
This. There is only one pure girl in Dragon Ball and it's pic related.
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>>153805703

But Roshi has already seen what's underneath way before Z.
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>>153805576
>dead Saiyan bodies
check again those aren't saiyans surrounding Vegeta.
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How many dicks has she sucked?
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>>153805697
Wow you're a fucking fool. Xicor pre existed the doujin by Toyble.
Xicor along side SSJ5 Goku were infamous fan made characters, Toyble merely made a coherent story out of the rumored characters within the fandom.
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>>153805786
>"Z"
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>>153805820
Judging by her lips: a lot.
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>>153804734
>one joke man fans are this autistic
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>>153804614
Mr. Popo.
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>>153805872
but your mother's lips doesn't look like that
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>>153805897
at least (You) tried.
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good job gohan :)
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>>153805878
Yeah, because "Goku beating up __" isn't the most common theme of DBZ fanart.
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>>153805676
He can't be that dumb, he just can't be.
R-r-right?
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>>153805828
Did I hit a nerve? Wipe Toyotaro's smegma off your lips before you post again poor little Toyocuck.
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>>153805899
Why U10's characters are gold on Toyotaro's hands? Zamasu, Gowasu and Black are huge improvements seeing how they are in the anime, and Rumoosh was literally created by Toyotaro
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>>153805899
Do you think she took the trunk?
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>>153805949
Why is the gut punch so common in Dragonball?
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>>153804904
goku but as a tomboy
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>>153805579
>>153805676

Beerus will probably say something about him needing to deal with some bigger threats to participate in a "friendly" tournament.
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>>153805990
>no argument
Classic toeishill
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>>153804952
>that Gohan with Trunks look alike clothes
that would have been better I believe.
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>>153805703
>forgetting Yamcha, who she dated for nearly 15 years on and off

Please.
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>>153805579
Goku can't get into contact with Monaka directly (unless someone just coincidentally ordered something from space while he's looking for team members). He would have to ask Beerus to get Monaka, and Beerus would probably come up with some excuse in order to prevent adding him since it almost backfired on him during the tournament against universe 6.
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>>153804952
>Cell with hair
That's just one of the Spice Boys!
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>>153806083
Yamcha is too beta, I bet he went limp everytime they tried to fuck because he was too nervous.
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>>153805022
classic memecasty fucked up proportions
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>>153806033
>literal autism
I accept your concession
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>>153805990
>get corrected for not knowing shit
>"D-did I hit a nerve?? Smegma! Cuck! xD"
pathetic.
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>>153806083
>Yamcha
>actually putting his dick in a human with vagina

>not even Puar, an actual woman
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>>153805820
None you ningen
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>>153805426
YOU SAID IT WASN'T CRINGY!!!!!
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>>153804614
Yamcha, the only character in the series so far to defeat a God of Destruction
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>>153806201
that's not cringe that's pure keks.
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>>153805828
>Xicor pre existed the doujin by Toyble
thats bs
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>NO MORE WARMING UP THIS IS THE RE-
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>>153806201
>Kai Kais behind you
>Unsheathes energy blade
psssh...nothing personnel ningen
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>>153805741
We are omnipresent
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>>153806201
Why'd they give Goten Gohan's saiyaman under suit
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>>153806259
He actually looks happy rather than angry
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>>153806201
/o-ourguy/
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>>153804614
Is there a reason to go out and get a gf if your pet cat can transform into anyone?
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>>153805676
it'll be revealed that he always knew, and Goku's always motivated to fight people.

r-r-right Toriyama?
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>>153806307
he's about to fuck mai of course he would be happy
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>>153806008
I don't know their perfect

>>153806019
maybe
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>>153804860
Why is Cell better than Buu? It should be the other way
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>>153806201
How did toriyama come up with:

>I will trust my manga to his guy.
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>>153806282
he was great saiyaman 3 or something like that
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Will we see Piccolo do this again in the tournament of power?

It'd be a cool last resort move.
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>>153806259
TORANKUSU
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>>153806430
Yeah I wonder why, toeimutt :^)
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>>153806282
>

in af goten is great saiyaman #3
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WHY TAPION IS IN IT?
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>>153806480
If his enemies have lower power levels sure, or else they will attack at his legs or something.
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more of her when
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>>153806480
maybe he'll keep his mouth shut next time.
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>>153806560
Toyotaro was always the biggest toeishills anon.
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>>153806622
it's all shit shut the fuck already
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>>153806256
"I think his name most likely came from a unknown fan fiction writer who must have done a fake episode list. I remember hearing Xicor sometime in 2003. The chances are that he most likely be around after GT ended in Japan."


"This. Hellspawn is totally right. Around 2004 or 2005 (Before Toyble's AF release) I checked out a website with an AF episode list and history. There, it was the story about a villian called Xicor whose mother (who was a goddess, not a Kaiohshin, but a goddess) took the Gokuh's DNA and then created Xicor.
In the story, I also read something about Brolly becoming a good guy.
By the way, around that time before Toyble's AF release, one of the AF photoshopped images on the Internet was this one:
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Toyble clearly used this image to his Xicor design. Just as he did with the SSJ5 Gokuh.

And Chuquita, no, it wasn't the same person"
www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23191
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>>153806499
Both are inferior to their predecessors. The inks are awful in 95% of the panels. I dont even know which one is a bigger insult. DBZ was never great quality, but the manga certainly was.
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>>153804860
i like the villains, but the arc felt sort of rushed
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>>153806622
>t. assblasted Toeipedro
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>>153806622
HOW DARE YOU QUESTION /OURGUY/
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>>153806499
So? DB, Z & GT never get good quality either in some episode.
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Pic related resume Toyble's life.
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>>153806499
This art is fucking amazing. Is it all Toyotaro? What a guy.
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>Toei shills are so desperate they have to attack some unofficial shit Toyo did years ago instead of the DBS manga running right now
That's just sad.
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>>153806682
This also explains why he has dragon features such as horns and shit because the original fanfic made him be part dragon.
Toyble's version didn't have a dragon goddess' heritage but nevertheless he didn't deviate from the original design of Xicor floating on the web.
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>>153806391
This.
Cell is fine and all, but the Buu arc was absolutely superior to it.
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>>153806941
Are you surprised?
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>>153807019
Jesus, that episode was drawn like fucking ass.
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>>153806941
If he has drawn that as a 12 years old, i would agree with you but a grown ass man drawing, writing this....
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>>153807092
How old is Toyotaro anyway?
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>manga Black-Zamasu
>Black: Shit, a Kaioshin discovered our plan
>Zamasu: If they report to Zeno we are fucked, better end this shit and go to another planet
>Black: Yeah, time to go serious
>when Shin and Gowasu react all remaining humans are already dead

>anime Black-Zamasu
>a fucking year trying to destroy the humanity seriously
>dozens of humans still alive and not only in the city (see #8 and more humans living in mountains)
>defeated by gas
>they need to fuse each other and with the entire universe to finally kill all humans
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>>153807092
full storytime when?
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>>153806812
Top kek
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>>153806682
So Toyo never actually had any original designs.
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>>153807127
I think he just hit 30 or about to. I can double check since it was kind of revealed on his instagram I think.
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>>153807092
>that's genuinely his argument

ok THAT is sad
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>>153807166
I will do it in DBS thread if it doesn't bother everyone here.
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>>153807142
Zamasu and Black in anime only seen the kaio at then end. Goku and Vegeta were already in their way.
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>>153806812
Daily reminder that making it Goten through a quick retcon in the timeline would have made it 10 times better.

>Implying we dont get 10 retcons a week
>Implying we even care about retcons anymore

Black being Zamasu was fucking wasted potential. Instead of being just an evil Goku or evil Goten
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>>153807224
How can you defend that an adult draw and write this shit?
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L-Leave toei alone, t-the animation is not that bad!
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>>153807142
I still prefer the anime's execution of that. Sure it was a little wonky with the human resistance being as effectual as they were but it felt more like a kick to the dick when cloud zamasu started wasting everyone after he'd been beaten.
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>>153807313
No, that would be fucking retarded
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>>153806194
>Puar
>woman

He's a dude.

>>153806129
While I will agree that he's beta, he apparently did cheat on Bulma once. Though it's out of character for the poor bastard.
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>>153807350
his art is not shit/above average and the one behind the wheel is toriyama so who gives a shit?
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>>153804614
I feel Hercule competing could be fun
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>>153807313
That is some shit taste mate.
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>two layers of ki ice cream super saiyan
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>>153807142
Wasting drama potential by killing humans without caring about them like in anime.

Cheesy ending predicted, fucking hack.
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>>153807417
Not more retarded than being Zamasu and the trillion plotholes it implicates
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>>153804860
Story wise
1.Cell
2.Frieza
3.Buu
4.G.Black

Character-wise (Character development and introduction of interesting characters)
1.Cell
2.Frieza
3.G.Black
4.Buu
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Is there just a Zip file of the manga from Dragonball all the way to the end of Z.
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>>153807422
Puar can transform, anon. Puar is Yamcha's onahole
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>>153807509
>ganbatte kids
>drama
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>>153807509
Nothing cheesier than Trunks miraculously surviving Black and Zamasu all alone in the future timeline when Goku and Vegeta leaves him alone.
The just randomly cut to him recovering in some random underground base.
Who needs to explain the plot anyways?
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>>153807092
>>153807092


so did goku actually fuck or no?
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>>153807598
>manga
>Z
I want Zbabies to leave
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>>153805249
Great technical talent as an illustrator but cringy imagination when it comes to story and characters

I get reminded here of my pre-teen edgelord days.
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>>153807657
They did contribute a bit and their dying like they did caught me off-guard.
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>Trunks survived, but how?

>Toyotaro: There's some useful characters overthere, you know. Based Shin and Gowasu use their time rings and teleport powers and they save Trunks and Mai from an insured death
>Toei: lol who cares he just did it now see this gag with future Yajirobe
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>>153807698
Look I just want to see what the ENTIRE series has to offer. Hell even throw in GT so i can see what that was about.
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>>153807701
>cringy imagination when it comes to story and characters.
If it makes you feel any better Xicor's origin story pre existed the fan manga. The only tweak he made was he changed his mother from a goddess to a Kaioshin.
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>>153807742
>contribute a bit and their dying like they did caught me off-guard.
Mmm
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>>153805294
Namekians are an age-old civilization with a rich history. There's definately room to introduce a transformation or a way to ascend in power.

I mean Jesus they already thrashed the credibility of the saiyans with Zenkai and the dozen transformations they can achieve. Why not throw namekians a bone?
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>>153807764
no zip that I know of but mangaseeonline.net has good scans. There is no GT manga if you're wondering.
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>>153807422
I still don't buy it, Bulma was always giving him shit just for girls fawning over him, she probably made it up
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>>153807509
Yeah, because the humans sending him energy and those retarded fucking kids screaming "Ganbatte" wasn't cheesy as fuck.
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>>153807701
Its awful as illustrator. Technical my ass. Toriyama was technical.

Sure, it doesnt help that he uses shitty digital tools but he seems to be a really mediocre artist anyways.
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>>153807768
i guess it being an adaptation makes me feell pretty good but still...he said "hey, thats a good story to illustrate"

Although a son between a saiyan and a Kaioshin would be an interesting Mashup. Although why the spikes and knuckles
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>>153807790
Thinking that wouldn't happen to the wise mentor trying to steer his villainous protege back on the path of righteousness? Its not like that trope wasn't done to death by the time the force awakens did it.
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>>153807814
Alright fuck it! I'm gonna drag and drop every page and file them so i can make myself a DB dog tag flashdrive.
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>>153807866
and probably the biggest asspull in the franchise.
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>>153807895
He's not exceptional but he has improved and like you said, having sub-par equipment doesn't help much. Pretty clean style that's not awfully child-like
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>>153807909
>what is plot armour?
wew lad
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>>153807906
>Although why the spikes and knuckles
The original fanfic had him be part dragon. He merely adapted his original character design without changing it.
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>>153807919
Not even close
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>>153807973
>Part dragon

Settle down, Goku.
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>>153807984
Nice try but no.
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>>153807895
>really mediocre artist anyways.
says who?
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>>153804765
Jaco is strong, too.
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>>153807701
>c-cringy and edgy!
Sure anon, isn't like he's Toriyama2 or something
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>>153807984
Why did this even happen? It had no affect on the plot whatsoever. It was just stupid and contradicts shit cell did before.
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I enjoy the anime, even though the manga is better.
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>>153808032
Not really.
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>>153808009
>literally cutting Zamasu's dick first
That really hurts
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Anime Gowasu:
>senile old dude who shows Zamasu a race of ningen that just confirms his prejudices and shows no redeeming characteristics that would motivate Zamasu to see ningen differently
>says that justice is balancing good and evil and tells Zamasu to accept evil in the world and brew him more tea

Manga Gowasu:
>is more willing to take notice of the fact that in a thousand years from the present, the babari develop writing and music. Zamasu just ignores these developments.
>Gowasu tries to point out to Zamasu how the Babari stopped fighting when their religious shaman showed up, confirming that Gowasu was right about the Babari actually progressing from a degenerate state of being to a higher and more spiritual one. Again, Zamasu doesn't see this or just ignores it.
>Gowasu tells Zamasu that he understands his desire for justice, but points out that a desire for justice in the world can easily become fastidiousness
>Rather than trying to convince Zamasu to tolerate evil in the universe because of something about balance, he tries to convince Zamasu that the path to peace is best achieved by developing a sense of tolerance and knowing how to rule with a gentle and forgiving hand
>He also tells Zamasu that he must learn his place in the divine order. Even if a race like the Babari prove to be a problem, it is the Gods of Destruction's job to pass the judgement on them, not the Kais.
>When Zamasu asks then why he's been given this great power if he's not allowed to use it to punish unworthy ningen, Gowasu states that he should see it as a test designed to help him to better himself morally.


tl;dr Manga Gowasu actually behaves more like a Supreme Kai who has the experience of millenia of doing his job and following the rules to positive results
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>>153808024
A regular guy with eyes. He doesnt hold a candle to Toriyama
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>>153804614
I found it surprising not Beerus or Whis knew of any comparable fighters to the saiyans. I mean, really (maybe excluding piccolo) are these people the strongest fighters in the ENTIRE universe?
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>>153808122
I still can't believe they didn't show the shaman elder babarian in the anime. Like what the fuck was the point Toei?
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>>153805244
Not a single solitary person anywhere gives a shit about that fuck up.
Not one.
It's good that people have simply completely given up enough that this no longer even upsets anyone. Raged out autists shitting on your IP will kill it dead. And this horribly mismanaged IP ONLY makes money with the autists that are still in love with the property now. It merely disgusting and dissapointing us is the best they can accomplish right now.
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>>153804704
What I know of Spanish Trunks is saying literally,
"It is time to avenge the death of my friends..!!"
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>>153808140
>Looking for reason in DBS
>Not knowing his terrible fanservice trash that doesn't give a fuck about anything other then squeezing nickles out of the DB autists.
>Implying their stories aren't all fanservice trash where they figure out a story later or redo the story when they realize the fanbase hates their ideas.
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>>153804804
You've obviously not seen jojo
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>>153807968
Unless that mentor was Goku, you should have known his ass was grass because the plot demands we see just how evil our baddie is. Ningen.
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>>153808147
>the shaman elder babarian
This gives me hope that in the manga Trunks will defeat both Zamasu and his ideology.
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>>153808270
>reaching this hard
Just like Future Mai right?
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1. Krillin enters ring
2. Spams Solar Flare
3. ???
4. Profit
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>>153808315
Its not reaching, its a basic understanding of how plots work, and knowing that most old mentors are straight fucked so that the hero can surpass them.
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>>153808341
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>>153804860
Freeza => Buu >>>>>> Cell > Future Trunks
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Why is Goku such a hick but Black is so savage and sexy? Is this the power of personalities?
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>>153808282
He can't because a fucking ningen will still be the main reason the timeline gets destroyed.
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>>153808282
Honestly if you put the manga and anime together it be a lot better
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>>153808360
>still reaching
>ignoring the rest of the post
wew lad
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>>153808282

Silly anon, you're gonna get the Spirit Bomb Sword and you're gonna like it!
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>>153808282
You know for gods of creation, I don't think I've seen any of them create anything ever.
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>>153808341
>implying solar flare won't only work once and then it's gonna be useless
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>>153808423
Not really, apart from the OST the manga doesn't need anything the anime.
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>>153808341
>gets an opponent that doesn't have eyes
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>>153808432
It's almost like nothing is planned in DBZ.
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>>153808432
i kinda wanna see how they create solar systems.
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reminder Trunks' destiny is defeat Zamasu
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>>153808139
Toriyama is literally a legend, just because he doesn't compare to him doesn't make Toyotaro "mediocre"
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>>153808424
Read some literary theory.
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>>153808395
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I really hope with the throwing out the window of power levels that master roshi does some work even for a little bit I love that character
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>>153808503
>no argument
Welp I win I guess.
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>>153808466
>apart from the OST
And the voice acting too. It's one of the only good things about the anime.
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>>153808535
Congratulations you think you won an argument on the internet.
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>>153805249
>>153805293

>tfw I wish that Xicor was canon

>Instead we get Goku Black

I like the idea of Goku fighting his own evil son better. I mean shit, Goku Black wasn't even like an ACTUAL evil Goku. Goku Black was Zamasu in Goku's body. It's not the same thing as Goku actually being evil, which was what I REALLY wanted in the first place.
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Why did all the Babari look the same in the anime?
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Soon
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>>153808636
>Goku Black wasn't even like an ACTUAL evil Goku. Goku Black was Zamasu in Goku's body
That's why Goku Black isn't shit
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>>153808636
>insert image about shadow the hedgehog alongside snide remark here
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>>153808699
cause you didn't say "hi" to me.
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>>153808699
Same reason why the characters hardly ever change their clothes in DBS.
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>>153808636
>Goku actually being evil, which was what I REALLY wanted in the first place

You could still get your wish yet
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And why Cabba look like a slenderman homage?
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>>153808180
this is correct
is this porn? because it looks like porn
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ATTENTION ATTENTION

I will list the names of all the people who defeated Goku fairly and are still alive

>Jackie Chun
>Ten Shin Han
>Beerus

This is where the list ends.

If your favorite character doesnt appear on the list, please exchange it for someone who does appear on the list as soon as possible.
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>>153808794
>Ten Shin Han
>defeat Goku
But Tenshihan isn't a truck

also you forget Vegeta
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>>153808636
>Evil Goku
>Not Kid Buu

Come on bruh. Kid Buu was basically an evil god version of DB Kid Goku
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>>153808794
>vegeta
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>>153808821
>fairly

No, Im sure I didnt forget anyone. He sucker punched Goku after the fight end.
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>>153808794
You're forgetting Vegeta.
>HURR BUT HE HIT GOKU FROM BEHIND AND HAD MAJIN POWERS
In their very first fight, Goku uses all his fancy new god-taught powers and gangs up on him with a monk, a fat samurai, and a super monkey boy. Vegeta still kicks his ass so hard his bones literally become dust and he can't move. Vegeta lost the battle for Earth, but he sure as hell beat Goku in every sense of the word.
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>>153808794

It's just sad that like 20 years have passed since the Saiyan saga and nobody other than Goku knows the fucking Kaioken.
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>>153808841

When?

In the Saiyan saga? I guess since even fucking Jayirobe helped to defeat him.

In the Buu arc? I don't even remember
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>>153808868
No, pretty sure Goku let that faggot live. Not the other way.

Or are you implying Krillin won?
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>>153808794
Forgetting someone
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>>153808913
In the Buu arc only Piccolo and Vegeta are left standing when used the angry explosion.
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>>153808925
>nothing personal
MADMAN
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>>153808794
>fairly
>Chiaotzu using psychic powers
pick one
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>>153808924
retard
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>>153808896
Not even the dude who taught him knows how to fucking do it.
It's a dangerous as fuck technique and it might have been partially responsible for Goku's heart problem. I mean, nigga does not get fucking sick ever.
The damage it did to his internal organs and heart might have been too much for the senzu to heal.
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>>153809040
His heart disease was because of a virus.
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>G charge a weapon
>before use it, G is defeated by V
>K and G's son use the weapon
>Y fights too
>V is defeated by G's son
>G says "come on guys I want meet with him again so let him live XD "

>hur hur G won
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Food for thought.

Goku was always incompetent for training.

In early DB where Krillin was barely weaker than Goku but Goku had Zenkai boosts going on. If no Zenkai he would be much weaker than Krillin, Tenshinhan and Piccolo. Hell, he is weaker than Piccolo at the start of DBZ despise the fact he cheats with zenkai
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>>153809096
I reiterate the virus shouldn't have affected him if at all. He should have been more then strong enough to fight it off after a single night of sleep.
He's a sayajin, they're hardy as fuck.
The early use of the Kaioken in my opinion fucked his body up so badly that it made him highly susceptible to the virus.
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Next thing you know they'll say Vegeta cheated by bringing Nappa which prevented Goku from having all of his friends there to fight alongside him.

>>153809123
You forgot the part where G took the energy to charge the weapon from all life on E.
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>>153807866
That was like some Shaman King stuff
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https://youtu.be/N2NMmEeoMI4
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>>153808794
>Ten Shin Han
Stupid fuck it's Tenshinhan
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>>153809374
>that hidden "hi"
what does he mean by this
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why did the thread die...did 4chan fuck up again.
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>>153808924
Didn't Goku have to result to nigger tactics to beat Vegeta? Didn't Goku have to use an ability that boosts his abilities over double to beat him? Sure Vegeta cheated but Goku cheated a fuck ton more than he did.
>Are you implying Krillin won?
Are you implying that Krillin beat Frieza because it caused Goku to go SSJ? What he's saying is that Goku and his butt buddies gang beat Vegeta while Goku practically used steroids and the entire planet's energy (which didn't kill him or even decompasitate him).
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>>153805782
> an idol
> pure
I'm not sure for some reason.
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>>153809270
What life?
The planet was completely fucked from decades of constant battle and no Dragon Balls to revive the lost people and life.
And there were less then fucking 20 homeless humans, a large house cat, and a talking turtle left on the planet. That's the spiritual energy he used.
That wouldn't have even been enough to give a saibaman an ouchie.
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>>153809458
In a battle to the death there is no cheating. They planned on killing each other even though Goku did spare Vegeta.
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>>153805820
Probably a ton. Imagine that just as Beerus challenges the worlds to give him delicious food in exchange of let them live. Cleo challenges all the inhabitants of the planet to sexualy satisfy her.
Until now, every planet has failed.
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>>153805244
nigger that's the regular ssj form, there's a CLEAR difference from her hulked out version in the intro
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>>153809472
I was talking about the Saiyan Saga battle.
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>>153804614
It's nepotism.
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Speaking of AF
What do you think about this headcanon for Frieza race?
(from Young Jiji AF)
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>>153809252
Saiyans are still mortal, multicellular beings, they're as susceptible to diseases as any other creature. The virus was also pretty strong and killed a lot of people before scientists found a cure.
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>>153809571
stfu
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>>153804904
She'l be the main character of Dragon Ball Super S

the sequel series that takes place after the final Z chapter.
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>>153809530
>regular SS form
>GREEN HAIR

>there's a CLEAR difference from her hulked out version in the intro
Yeah, hulked form is its non canon version
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>>153809584
I feel people trying to push the cold aspect of Frieza's race pun is rather dumb, such as this and the name "frost demons." I mean, saiyans aren't born from vegetables and Hakaishins don't get their power from alcohol or anything like that.
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>>153804614
They really should have replaced Roshi with Yamcha to make this team seem less random. Kid Trunks and Goten are both stronger individually than him as well

Roshi is so far down the line, Yajirobe and Chiaotsu are canonically stronger.
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>>153809584
that sounds dumb as hell
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>>153808025
Because he wouldn't get in trouble for fucking around in a tournament when he has police business to attend to.
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>>153809458
>Didn't Goku have to result to nigger tactics

saiyans are literal monkeys to begin with dumb
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>>153809690
> Don't know anything about the character
> sees a difference in manga and anime
> non canon arguments start happing

Lets just wait until She appears. Hell we don't even have a name for her yet.
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>>153809670
>Super S
I wouldn't even be mad, just to see the tears from the GTfags
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>>153809670
>female protagonist in a fighting shonen

Blergh.
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>>153809709
>Power levels autists can't handle him appearing
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>>153809584
>Thawing period
>insert random bullshit time with strong DBZ character names involved
>Make your edgy OC's time nearly 10x one of strong DBZ character
This makes as much sense as the best-bud->>153809588
bond between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman
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why is Saitama so based?
will gokucucks ever recover?
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>>153809745
>Literal monkeys
Frieza go back to Hell for the third time and get a hobby like; get with Cell and make psycho-sexual edible birdhouses.
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>>153804614
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PERFECT
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>>153804614
The fox god Liquir is my favorite. I hope he has some nice banter with our boy Beerus.
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>>153807615
I feel like Puar tried doing that once, and Yamcha freaked out.

>>153807835
Either they broke up, and when Bulma went to apologize she saw him with his supposed girlfriend in the Cell saga, or he pulled the old "If that's what you think of me then fine" shit. Or maybe he didn't cheat at all. It's weird that they're still good friends to this day.

>tfw you put more thought into Yamcha than he's had since the Saiyan saga
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>>153810139
Has Zen-o's childish personality and Beerus's short temper.
The multiverse is doomed
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>>153809486
Goku was out of that fight, sure he asked that Krillin spare Vegeta but he was fucking done. Besides for a good while it was a duel and after it was over Goku had dust for bones and Vegeta had to tank a spirit bomb that was given to Krillin after, which was the end of any of Goku's efforts. After that Gohan became a giant monkey and body slamed Vegeta. If anyone should get the credit for that win its Gohan or Vegeta for turning the brat into a giant monkey.
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>>153808122
I generally prefer the anime (because it airs every week mostly), but Manga Gowasu (and a few other characters) blow the fuck out of anime Gowasu. Too bad he's probably dead.

Ah who am I kidding, he'll be saved by Goku with a senzu.
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>>153810314
>Liquir
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>>153810394
Rikeeru, Liquir, same thing.
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>>153805244
You have autism.
I don't even know anything about you other than that you keep posting this, and that's enough for me to tell.
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>>153805249
ew what's wrong with his knuckles?
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>>153805820
How many breads have you eaten in your life?
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>>153810139
That design horrifies me for some reason.
Something about it just scares me so much.
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>>153808032
And here I though that freehand drift pose was only for Mario Kart
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>>153810611
original fanfic Xicor is based off of is part dragon, Toyo/Toyble didn't deviate from that design even though he changed his origin from a dragon goddess to a Kaioshin.
>>
So imagine a scenario where Vegeta managed to get both his lackey (Nappa and Raditz) back. Literally how many zenkai they would need to reach to their level again?
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>>153809691
I know right? Just call them reptilians and we're done.
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>>153810821
Why would he even want them back?
Maybe Nappa, but Raditz? Not even Goku cared about him.
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>>153804614
reminder that power levels from DBZ mean absolutely nothing in Super
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>>153810911

>goku didn't even go pay a visit to raditz to tell him that he is now a grandpa

Man, what a dick.
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Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister
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>>153810978
A dick to a man who tried to kill him and his son.
A man who claims to be his brother, but he doesn't remember him at all.
Raditz was only related to Kakarot, not Goku.
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>>153811022
>Raditz was only related to Kakarot, not Goku.
DEEP.
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>>153809724
>fighting in a tournament that decides the fate of the universe is not police business
hed be a fucking hero.
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will the anime fix his ear things in the next arc
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>>153811159
He'd only be a hero if he arrested Zeno
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>>153809584
This would look cooler without the tiger stripes.
Black lip/tears is on point because they're supposed to look kind of freaky

Being frozen in ice makes no fucking sense, especially because elemental nonsense really never applied to DBZ, even if is a greater aspect of the Wulin.

I always figured Frieza came from a planet with ridiculously high gravity or was some sort of race spawned by the Kai early on to create stars(They do have a move called Supernova and can survive in space, fucked if I know).
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>>153811164
I was so disappointed to see anime-Frost after seeing such a well executed and drawn manga version that came before it.
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>>153811022
>A dick to a man who tried to kill him and his son.
wew what a rancorous faggot you are
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>>153810978
Raditz was burning in hell along with the rest of the saiyan race not named Goku.
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>>153811435
>not named Goku
and Vegeta
and Tarble
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>>153811435
>burnin

HFIL isn't like that, though.
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>>153804614
my biggest thing (since its never explained) is this:

why are 17 and 18 here? mostly because, how are they strong when at the end of cell saga they got wished human? or at least 18 does, so how is she still also that strong?

and i want to see the fucking induct 17 into the team and have at least 1 person say something like "good thing trunks isn't here"

tien i can see, krillen yeah and piccolo obvious since vegeta ain't here. roshi is a filler slot, since either his match is gonna be a toss or he will win due to roshi shenanigans
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>>153811308
>after seeing such a well executed and drawn manga version that came before it.

Nothing too special about it. Way better than the anime, but no masterpiece.
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>>153811308
the ear things being too small just make him look off
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>>153811435
>rest of the saiyan race
nah, most were alright
In dragon ball, even morally grey characters like Piccolo go to heaven.
Bardock and Gine definitely made it up there, as Piccolo "learning to care" was all it took to get him there.
Radditz probably not, cause they try to give the impression that the last 3 saiyans were basically given genocide jobs.
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>>153811478
>still promoting Goku wearing Whis gi
>never wears it in the episodes
toei a shit
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Imagine if Goku Black situation was morally reversed.

Insted of Goku it's Kakarotto, a stereotypical evil Saiyan, who achieved SSBlue.
Zamasu is actually righteous Kaioshins who truly wants to destroy the real evil (not just ningens, actual evil people)
So, in a similar chain of events, Zamasu switches bodies with Kakarotto.

And now we have Kakarotto White. Still smug and flamboyant, but actually cares for his ningens and destroys anything evil.
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>>153809503
as it should
you think even an entire universe can satisfy her?
she is just giving them a sporting chance, she feels bad for them
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Honestly. The only reason that the manga just doesn't attract me that much is that there is no sense of scale. There's no feeling of that epic undertone when they fight. It's just, like Toyo is trying to make the manga a more coherent version of the anime rather than making a fun to read manga.
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>>153811575
>It's just, like Toyo is trying to make the manga a more coherent version of the anime rather than making a fun to read manga.
kek
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>>153811639
>reading people playing video games is so much fun
What I meant by fun is watching the progression of the story not this over glorified filler.
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>>153811563
I think it's more fair to say that if somehow Kakarotto did reach SSBlue, that Zamasu wouldn't have to be morally any different.
Because at that point, the GoD would be responsible for stopping Goku, and if he did not, then the kaioshins would intervene like they did with Buu.
That's really what got to Zamasu, the fact that no one was intervening.
But if he saw Kaioshins fighting and dying, he would probably reach the same conclusion, that "no ningen should have the power of a God" and use the super dragon balls to switch bodies.
Zamasu would be hailed as a hero, and kaioshins would likely become more proactive in stopping evil.
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>>153811575
>sense of scale
I know you mean narrative-wise, but his backgrounds suck too. There's no sense of space, and I feel like I'm zoomed in on the characters all the time. Toriyama had rocks and chicken scratch grass all the time, but the motion and space made fights feel really big.
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>>153811692
Don't insult the glorified filler its the most fun the manga really has because all the fights less engaging if better explained.
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>>153811575
>there is no sense of scale
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>>153811575
I feel the same about the anime. Even when they try to epic, the art and animation was so bad that everything they did felt like a cheap knock off.
It doesn't help that it's literally made in a filipino sweatshop either.
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>>153811751
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>>153811786
This was so good and I went into the anime version's episode expecting something glorious but I was disappointed by this >>153811751
What a spit in the face.
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>>153811751
And the next few seconds of that episode would start introducing a fair amount of scale to what was at first introduced as a silly bitch slap fight between two brothers.
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>>153811575
I agree with, toyotaro ruined every possibility to make the arc better on the manga.

He's trying to suck too much toriyama's dick while be coherent;
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>>153811815
The room barely deteriorating is not "fair amount of scale" who do you think you're kidding?
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>>153809584
Completely retarded, although planet winter as the name for his race's homeworld is a good idea.
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>>153811775
If you think I epic in the sense of animation or art, you were horribly wrong. Scale as the show of strength and power. The show of size and and the ever increasing limits they can do. For example, the Super Shenron in the anime had scale, had the epicness of what I want. But the manga made it feel like some random side quest. Really boring as fuck. Other than that the arena for the universe 6 tournament was made disappointing if you compare it to the anime. Besides that, the fight between characters just seem like it was scaled way down without any apparent reason. Really disappointing. I was expecting Toyotaro to make something with good are and scale. But he didn't.
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>>153811851
>actually liking the GANBATTE moment
Your taste is beneath me
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>>153811915
I GANBATTE you too anon.
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>>153811495
>why are 17 and 18 here? mostly because, how are they strong when at the end of cell saga they got wished human? or at least 18 does, so how is she still also that strong?
They're still cyborgs. Did you miss the part where Shenron said he couldn't make them human? At most he was able to remove the bombs that were put in them.
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>>153811911
The PG tournament grounds of the anime was shit.
The ancient egyptian/kemetic themed rink with the obelisks was much more epic and sacred looking.
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>>153811851
>He's trying to suck too much toriyama's dick while be coherent
what do you mean? does he have a choice? it's not like dragon ball is his series.
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>>153811557
>Bardock and Gine definitely made it up there

Fuck. Don't remind me. For 30 years it was implied that all of them were like Raditz and I'm not going to let some new schlock ruin that retroactively.

>>153811482
Technically HFIL isn't canon and Dragon Hell involves you experiencing whatever is personally horrible, possibly burning related, until you soul is cleansed.
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>>153811947
But it was on the ground and super small. Doesn't have the sense of scale I want. And the manga even though making it with egyption theme in mind it still doesn't look good like real egyptian shit. It's just a couple of small pyramids stairs and lots of small bricks. I want you to tell me that you think something like that looks good.
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>>153811987
He can give suggestions anon. But he's too scared to even do that. Do you think Toriyama is where he is right now because he is a little bitch that does anything people tell him to do? No.
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>>153811164

Honestly, I think they should have made some sort of deal with Golden Freeza and had him come back for this universal fight. There's no fucking way some of the others are going to win. They are just there to show off the bad guys and their powers, while the sayans save the day.
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>>153812009
It looks good, bigger doesn't mean better.
Even the dragon was animated so poorly the threads were non stop trolling because of the shitty animation.
If Toyo had 45 pages to write like he did now he wouldn't have had to 1-page the dragon and he would've had a chance but he had only 21 pages around then.
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I just want there to be a "Dragon Ball If" manga
Similar to MARVELs "What if?" comics
Just each issue exploring various What If scenarios throughout DB history.
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>>153811911
>Super Shenron in the anime had scale, had the epicness of what I want.
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>>153812043
This doesn't look good at all. Sand and bricks. Not even good large brick like we see with the real pyramids.
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Don't bother replying to this retarded Toei shill
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>>153812053
>epicness
I love how toeishills destroys their own arguments. Toei was a mistake, they made of DB a meme and a """epic""" series for autist
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>>153812053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FujpFD8Plg4
Yes anon. It doesn't have lots of good animation. But it had scale. It had size. It had sense and meaning.
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>>153812093
This looks ancient and sacred sites, it pulls on a sense of wonder by invoking a sense of ancient historical mystery. It fits perfectly with the aesthetics and motif of an animal headed egyptian deities.
The anime one in comparison looks like something I'd find on the Disney channel because depicting any semblance of real religion is gonna trigger someone.
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>>153812153
>all this complaining merely about size
Someone REALLY is compensating for something...
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>>153812049
I wish that Dragon Ball's fanfiction community wasn't so inexplicably shit so that these stories would exist anyways. For Naruto every retarded possibility has a fanfiction. Dragon Ball doesn't even go into really basic stuff like "What If Krillin killed Frieza with the Kienzan" or "What If Goku Never Met Bulma." There's little out there and the stuff that is is terrible and seemingly written by people who didn't even watch OG Dragon Ball.
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>>153812171
What do you mean sacred. We both know that this place doesn't have any sacred meaning to it. It's just a motif that Toyotaro use to make a stage. It's literally just sad and brick. Doesn't even have any complicated shape there. Just a few rectangles and triangles.
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>>153812093
>This doesn't look good at all
4/10 bait, not good enough but make me reply

>inb4 you just call bait every opinion different than yours!
OK anon whatever you say, it doesn't look good at all, sure.
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>>153812222
The worst part is that they could have thrown Zamasu off easily.
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>>153812188
Not just about size. Try posting the pages for the manga about Super Shenron. Compare it and see how underwhelming the manga is.
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>>153812222
owned and checked.
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>>153812222
>Super Saiyan Rose Kamehameha
>barely looks building level
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>>153812222
B-but muh epicness!!
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>>153812006
>For 30 years it was implied that all of them were like Raditz
No it wasn't
Anime Filler did that.
First the two super old saiyans that some how had Frieza armor, then the bardock special and the brolly movies.
In the manga, the most you got was that the saiyans were loyal soldiers who got offed cause they had too fast a growth rate.
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>>153809709
>Buu Saga SS1 Gotenks
>Lower than Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku
but thats wrong faggot
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>>153812272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8qdPe7v4Ek
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>>153812222
>muh scale
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EPIC HIGH CHAIRS
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>>153812222
>can predict someone who moves faster than time
>can't just elbow a weak as fodder ass hole and then instant transmission
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>>153812294
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTXPUv5j_Og
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>>153812301
Toeibabbies will never recover.
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>>153812321
>no far away shot depicting "muh scale, muh epic big dick kamehameha"
You just btfo'd yourself.
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>>153812327
I was enjoying this conversation but you just have to make a meme out of yourself.
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>>153812294
Has the DBS anime had any planet view shots?
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>>153806022
Punching someone in the gut is usually more effective than striking the head or limbs, and in the best case scenario, it can even knock the wind out of them, opening them up to be comboed.
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muh epic [ss2 tier guy who also looks like a regular SS] kicking [ssb tier guy]
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>>153809709
there is so much wrong with this
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>>153812346
You really don't understand what scale mean do you. I said again and again. It isn't about size you braindead idiot.
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and muh epic [ss2 tier guy] beating [ssb tier guy]
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>>153812153
>It had size
>>153812407
>It isn't about size
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So why do we call him Zamasu instead of Zamus? That's literally the same as saying Kuririn instead of Krillin.
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>>153812280
>No it wasn't

Yes it was.
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Saiyans will have a total of 72 transformations by the time this shit finishes to achieve maximum pottery.
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episode 52 was pretty comfy, I think I'm starting to like Super. fucking anything is better than that last tournament arc
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>>153812433
> Zamus
Because he's not a female bounty hunter in a robot suit.
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muh epic invincible villains (black goku's zenkais are super special his power level is maximum XD ) defeated by gas
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>>153812432
>it had scale
>it had sense and meaning
>>153812266

Wew anon. You really shows me. Showed me nothing that is. Hahahahahaha. But really I'm sorry. Should have put
>not just about size
I'm really sorry for that.
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>>153812461
that's his name though
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Why are people relying to this clown?
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>>153812468
That's why I said that Toyotaro is just making a more coherent anime and not a good, fun and exciting manga. Really need to read the thread anon.
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>>153812496
Thres is ded
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muh new form isn't used to defeat the villain yet, epic job comes first
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>>153812507
>not a good, fun and exciting manga
That's why you're wrong and a shitty bait
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>>153812461
But that's even how it's pronounced in the Japanese version
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>>153812612
Why is anime zamasu so bad at killing ningen?
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>>153812612
what the fuck is this scene, it's just things happening at random and at no consequence
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>>153812639
How is that good, fun and exciting? Even DB was more exciting that that. Are you baiting me?
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>>153812612
>Mai vehicle is FTL apprently
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muh epic broken back stance, manga bad boring and lame stance can't be compared
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>>153812612
>>153812650
Meanwhile in fun, exciting Manga land that is 100% better animefags btfo
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>>153812745
i like both
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muh epic Auschwitz kid
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>>153812321
Jesus.
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>>153812759
What the fuck
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>>153812745
>anime vegeta
>know how to fight
>take up an open stance so that he could react to hit

>manga vegeta
>only know how to follow repetition
>can't transform twice
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>>153804734
>Deviantart is full of autism

Don't worry, we didn't forget
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>>153812656
>Trunk's hold back Zamasu by the wrists as he tries to stab him with a ki blade.
>Mai drives up and fires a slug at Zamasu's neck
>Distracted by the shot, Zamasu eases his arm allowing Trunk's to free up an arm and release a quick ki blast into his chest and fly back
>Still distracted by the shot but refocusing on a retreating trunk's. Zamsu sling a few ki blasts at Mai while trying to keep close to trunks

What do you mean "random"?
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>>153812201
It's because the basic premise behind it is all stacked in the favor of goku and the saiyajins.
Litterally no one else that doesn't have a drop of saiyajin blood in them can do a single fucking thing in DB.

Even fucking Toriyama saw how horribly limiting this was and gave other people and beings time in the spotlight.

DBS? They won't even allow something as generic as Hit. Or a heroic alien that isn't a saiyajin.
It's fucking ridiculous.

There is litterally fucking NOWHERE to go with DB as it is now.
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>>153811478
So Gohan vs Lavenda is only one episode
>>
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>>153809709
>Black arc Vegeta
>lower than Black arc Goku

>Buuhan
>higher than SSJ Vegetto

jaysus
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m-muh epic SS2 Trunks kicked SSR Black's ass, manga is so lame!
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>>153812868
>There is litterally fucking NOWHERE to go with DB as it is now.
Do something with an alternate universe, fix U6's designs and make an DB-like adventure series featuring Saiyans to show off how they're the good guys, maybe have an arc showing off how humans destroyed Earth
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>>153812896
>Korean
not canon
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MUH epic stances still the best!
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>>153812883
>Universe 4
So its only attacks? He wont be able to steal Blue and Kaioken?
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>>153812450
Your comment made me want to go full autism mode and cound all transformations every saiyan ever had, canon or not.

0). Base form. Not a transformation, just a form, that's why it's numbered zero
1). Oozaru
2). Kaio-ken
3). Kaio-kenx2 (probably the same as regular kai-ken)
4). Kaio-kenx3
5). Kaio-kenx4
6). Kaio-kenx10
7). Kaio-kenx20
8). Kaio-kenx100
9). False Super Saiyan
10). Super Saiyan
11). Super Saiyan Grade 2 / Super Vegeta
12). Super Saiyan Grade 3 / Ultra Super Saiyan
13). Super Saiyan Full Power
14). Legendary Super Saiyan
15). Spirit bomb Super Saiyan (from android 13 movie)
16). Super Saiyan 2
17). Super Kaio-ken
18). Super Saiyan 3
19). Baby Vegeta (Strongest Form 1)
20). Baby Vegeta (Strongest Form 2)
21). Golden Oozaru
22). Super Saiyan 4
23). Legendary Super Saiyan 2
24). Legendary Super Saiyan 3
25). Legendary Oozaru (yes, it exists)
26). Legendary Super Saiyan 4
27). Super Saiyan God
28). Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan / Super Saiyan Blue
29). Super Saiyan Blue + Kaio-ken
30). Super Saiyan Rose
31). Super Saiyan Rage
32). Villainous Mode
33). Villainous Mode (Super Saiyan)
34). Villainous Mode (Super Saiyan 2)
35). Supervillain Mode

35 transformations. Holy shit.
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>>153812948
seems like it
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>>153812962
>17). Super Kaio-ken

When does this happen?
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>>153812998
otherworld tournament filler between Cell and Buu sagas
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>>153812998
Filler. Otherworld tournament (the one with Pikkon)

>>153812962
Also, forgot this one:
Super Saiyan Blue + Kaio-kenx10
36 now
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>>153812998
Filler in the animehttps://youtu.be/edV7GojXMPY
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>>153812998
other world tournament
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>>153812962
Basically take these words
>Super
>Oozaru
>Legendary
>God
>Kaio-ken
>The Numbers 1~20
>Saiyan
>Blue

Mix and match as you please
>Legendary God Super God Saiyan God 4 Blue Oozaru God Kaio-ken x20
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>>153804614
Why does Beerus train his Kaioshin ?

it would save him a lot of stress. Also he can wish for immorality instead.
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>>153813061
cause shin a shit
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>>153813050
Someone should make a generator with that
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Why is Toyo not trying to make a less boring manga? Isn't good at all, not exciting and epic as muh anime xD
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>>153812903
I don't mean any disrespect but...
Fuck Saiyans.

I'm dead serious. They have nothing interesting to offer anymore and they just completely fucked the entire world up with Super.
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I want a Crane Hermit series featuring Tenshinhan and Chaozu as the protagonists
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>>153812948
If you find me a bigger resolution raw scan i can translate for you defintively.
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As great as Dragon Ball Z was, it literally ruined the series. We'll never get another fun adventure DB because all people want now is more generic punch kick ki blast ssj20 garbage.
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>>153812962
was Merged Zamasu a Super Saiyan White
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>>153813146
Without the generic punch and kick DB would have been canceled.
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>>153813125
no need
>>
Have you ever been monkey's pawed with Dragon Ball? What happened?

>I want Mai to be relevant again
>I want less of Gohan
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>>153804860
Black arc has got to be my favorite until the black reveal
Then shit got too retarded with back to the future, mafuba for no reason, blacks ki scythe that made no fucking sense and merged zamasu becoming a gooey monster
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>>153813201
forgot the pic
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The mortal is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Ningen and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
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IT'S TIME

http://www.strawpoll.me/12396021
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>>153813201
>>153813221
>using a monkey's paw instead of the Dragon Balls
Do you ever actually think
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>>153813258
the dragon balls aren't real, bozo
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>>153813233
You fucked up U6 and 7, ya dingus
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>>153813272
yeah and monkey paws are
get fucked before I do it for you
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>>153813092
The problem is that the Super Saiyan transformation doesn't actually make any sense to be a Saiyan-only transformation.

It's got some hippy Jedi force bullshit about drawing it out with your anger, or it basically being the Ki version of adrenaline; but at its fundamental core it was a transformation brought out by years of hard work, by constantly pecking away at your plateau until finally you breach the barrier of your limitations.
It was just that, a person who through hard work exceeds their own limitations; which was perfect in fighting a villain who was all about overwhelming limitations.

There isn't a reason it had to be a Saiyan only transformation.

The Saiyan race was cool on its own, the idea of a violent battle seeking race that can only greatly improve when they fight stronger opponents was neat.
Oozaru were fucking neat.

Just after each major villain they had to keep elements of the last big fight in, and that's why after Piccolo Jr's beam spam that everyone now had beam spam.
After Goku & Frieza both pop out into the sky and have a bunch of explosions somewhere else they had to do it in every fight.
After Super Saiyan everyone needed a transformation
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>>153813304
what a load of shit, none of your points hold any weight
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>>153813298
>he thinks monkey paws aren't real
How fucking new are you? I'm going to use mine to fucking wish you dead.
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The Dragonball extended universe is so big now I can't tell when Heroes is making things up or adapting something.
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>>153813274
>Using slick talking and popularity to apply pressure to your opponent instead of actually fighting them
>Turning the opponent's attacks against them but there's a limit to how much you can do with it!!!What a twist!
Fuck,all of my least favourite tropes
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>>153813329
Not an argument.
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>>153813344
jokes on you monkey boy I already used the Dragon Balls to wish myself immortal
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>>153813200
No im trying to figure out the definitive root word Herma translated as attack.
It could have been 攻撃 kougeki(attack) or 技 waza (ability). Either way fits since they're synonymous but i wanted to double check.
Not that anything is wrong with herms.
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>>153812962
quick update:
36). Super Saiyan Blue + Kaio-ken x 10
37). Great Saiyaman (I guess Gohan IS kinda transforming into a superhero)
38). Ultimate Gohan / Mystic Gohan (I have no idea how I forgot that)
39). Baby Vegeta Golden Oozaru (I'm just not sure if I should count that, it kinda looks different from Gokus version, although it's mostly him having clothes)
40). Majin Vegeta (again, not sure if I should count that)
41). Saiyan beyond God (I guess)

So now it's more than half towards the 72 goal.

>>153813152
No. And he was more Zamasu than Goku at that point. Although...
42). Giygas bullshit thing
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>>153813394
Oh sorry
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>>153813304
That doesn't make any sense. None of it.

Look SSJ being a Saiyajin only thing is okay. It's even cool Even the new levels of power created by them is good.

However, no one else having anything like that? and everyone simply being left in the dust?
Shit.

The SSJ God thing and them completely sandbagging Piccolo in the tournament. Even the Saiyajins from another universe and the interesting opposite day Frieza, frost, being thrown under the bus for a LOOK HOW AWESOME THE SAIYAJINS ARE thing was the last straw.

Complete bullshit.

Even Toriyama knew that would get stupid and dull quickly and took steps to make it not a blonde hair blue/green eyed space monkey circle jerk. But look what Toei and Toyo have done!
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>>153813379
yeah well i used the monkey paw to undo your wish
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>>153813394

Not him, but according to his bio in toei website, he has to receive said attack before able to convert it as his own.
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>>153813274
Holy shit
Now I want Goku to lose.
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>>153813367
But its turning the gods against goku so its ok
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>>153813458
t. zamasu
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>>153813434
Is this a serious refutation or are you just pretending to be retarded?
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>>153813438
I'll just go to Namek, do it again, make it permanent and irreversible.

gg ez, also you're running out of fingers
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>>153813491
monkeys have two paws moron
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>>153813450
Same anon
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>>153813500
doesn't stop me from already winning monkey boy
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>>153813482
Dude, I honestly don't have it in me right now to make a multiple post long diatribe about how everything in that post was deeply and fundamentally fucking retarded.

You're lucky you got that.
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>>153813528
So you're not even just pretending?

Pretty sad
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>>153813304
here's an argument for you: your points are shit
>there isn't a reason it had to be a saiyan only transformation
there isn't a reason for anything in DB, things just are the way they are.
SS is a transformation based on channeling your rage. all you did was try and deny that with some mental gymnastics
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>>153813443
「相手の*技*を受けて自分の力に変える事ができる戦士。」
Just as I thought they used the term "ability" not "attack".
>>153812948
I hope that clears it up for you, something like the ability/move Kaioken should be copy-able.
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>>153813552
My point was that there's no reason the transformation is Saiyan only.

Are non-saiyans incapable of rage?
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>>153813566

技 is more like technique like Kamehameha. I can assume Bergamo to copy that but not kaioken.
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>>153812962
>>153813417
what about Vegeta's quake of whatever?
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>>153813587
our Anger isn't strong enough to transform us my man
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>>153813616
If only it was something more like gundam seed's seed mode where usually it's just the special people that can do it, but also Cagali.
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>>153813543
pretending what?
everything in your post is utterly fucking stupid and I limped to the boarn with a half thought out response
I didn't just say you're an idiot and leave it at that. You should be graeetfull
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>>153813587
non-saiyans are incapable of the super saiyan transformation
besides that, the whole idea behind U7 saiyans is that they're battle-crazed lunatics so the rage transformation makes sense.
in U6 the saiyan race still exists but they're peacekeepers and had no idea about SS until based Vegeta taught Cabba the power of rage
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>>153813587
They can transform into super saiyajins for the same reason they can change into apes and namekians can grow tall and merge and make dragon balls and humans can make up ridiculously brilliant ki abilities and technology.
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>>153813653
>non-saiyans are incapable of the super saiyan transformation
Uub has a rage transformation.
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>>153813672
Majuub?
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So Bergamo is just Buu without the Majin hacks?
Damn imagine if Goku ever showed the Kaioken to Buu

Also why wouldnt everyone let Universe 4 win after that?
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>Goku finds out Bergama can copy moves
>Goku does a Kaioken x20 and audibly shouts it
>Bergamo tries it
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>its another humans are smart, peaceful and weak show
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>>153813672
which is super cool. it's also not super saiyan
also doesn't the fact that you just named another rage transformation destroy your whole point? what are you even arguing?
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>>153813701
universe 9 Toei just fucked up with what universe was fighting in the ad
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>>153813713
> Then assures him, that x20 is nothing, you can go x300 without much strain
> Bergamo believes that
> Tries kaio-ken x 1000
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So does it imply that Bergamo copies the abilities or that the steals them?
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>>153813597
True true.
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>>153813740
>since the doggos dont use Ki it actually works
>Goku gets oneshot and falls unconscious
>wakes up after the fight
>OMG THATS AWESOME
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>>153813750
"He can make them his own"
Take that as you will.
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Since Gowasu traveled 1000years into the future doesn't that show that Universe 10 wins the tournament?
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>>153806328
>he thinks Goku won't be retarded
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>>153813715
Most all-around (read: most boring)
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Just copying techniques doesnt seem too impressive considering Frieza, Cell and Buu did that too
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>>153813840
Plus it's like the least interesting ability of the sharingan eye
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>>153813700
Regular uub. Remember when Goku Knocked him into the ring and he got pissed and turned beet red/purple and looked as if he was going to blow his top ala buu?

>>153813720
No fucktard.
Your entire point is that SSJ is something that everyone should get. When it's been established LONG BEFORE ITS CREATION that it's a saiyajin only thing.

What are you even arguing? That it's unfair that only saiyajins get super forms or something?
Cause namekians get super forms(ironically enough they get stronger through peacful meditation), humans..well roshi, has a super form,
I don't get what you're arguing? The basic concept behind rage unlocking super powers?
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>>153813750
Yes
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>>153804614
NEW thread
>>153813872
>>153813872
>>153813872
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>Bergamo copies Hakai
>easily wins the tournament
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>>153813882
lmao you're retarded
my entire point is that super saiyan is something only saiyans have
you literally just switched to my argument and called me a fucktard for it
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>>153813919
>my entire point is that super saiyan is something only saiyans have
>you literally just switched to my argument and called me a fucktard for it

Are you fucking serious?
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>Me
>>153813552
>>153813653
>>153813720
>>153813919
>You
>>153813304
>>153813587
>>153813672
>>153813882

>>153813962
yes, i'm serious you absolute tard
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>>153813274
Fucking Goku confirmed AGAIN to cause the extinction of several universes. You know this faggot is gonna be like "I wanna fight strong guys so I gotta beat the wolf man!"
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>>153813304
Ss is a mutation of oozaru
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