Why aren't you watching anime in 1080p, anons?

>>153790998
Because my monitor is 1366×768.

Because then there wouldn't be enough space for 4chan at the side of the screen.
I like to multitask.

>>153791063
if you like to multitask you need a bigger monitor than 1080p

But I do

>>153791168
I have a 1440p monitor. 4chan needs more than 360p width.

Because my internet is shit and I'm almost out of space.

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>>153790998
I also watch my anime interpolated 60 fps

>>153790998
Because my eyesight is shit and I can't tell the difference from more than a foot away from my screen.

>>153791063
How do you read subs and browse at the same time?

>CR rips in 1080p

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>153791055
Same here.

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>>153791055
This.

>>153791485
If it's a scene where I have to pay attention, I either press pause to browse /a/.
But there are plenty of scenes that are relatively slow and that permit a few side glances. You'd still better press pause if you actually want to write a response.

In general, the main advantage of having them next to each other is that I don't forget about the anime like I would if the window were minimized.

>>153790998
Because anime isn't broadcast in 1080p, all you're watching is an upscale.

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>>153791530
1080p CR rips often have the highest visual fidelity of any release until the BD rips, especially for shows tagged as "1280+" on http://anibin.blogspot.ca
Their only real issue is banding which is rendered moot by any competent media player with debanding like MPC-HC with MadVR or mpv.
IIRC even Daiz has used 1080p CR rips for Underwater releases because they were the best video source available until the BDs.
In addition to checking anibin, one should visually compare sources of new shows at the beginning of each season rather than blindly following a dogma of "TV sources are better," "720p is better," "1080p is better," etc.

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>>153791706
>Because anime isn't broadcast in 1080p
Actually, it is, these days. Note all the 1080p TV rips on Nyaa these days. Those were broadcast at 1080p. Anime is given to broadcasters (and CR/Funi/etc.) in 1080p by the studios. 720p broadcasts/streams are literally downscales.
The 1080p sources given to broadcasters/streamers can contain upscaled lineart, but sometimes that lineart is upscaled from a >720p resolution. In these cases, a 1080p release will contain greater visual fidelity than a 720p release. That's what checking anibin is for. If anibin tags an anime as "1280+" that means the original lineart was scanned at a resolution greater than 720p. This means the 1080p release of this show will look visually sharper than the 720p release of this show.
A few anime per season these days contain lineart scanned at full 1080p. Maid Dragon is an example of this. Pic related. Note that KyoAni's use of After Effects breaks anibin's resolution estimate methodology, leading them to incorrectly report 955.5 horizontal resolution for KyoAni shows. All KyoAni shows at least as far back as Chuu2 have been full 1080p productions; not upscales.

>>153791055
>>153791565
>>153791619
still makes difference

My vision isn't good enough and I refuse to wear my glasses at my computer.

1080p bang drums actually looks better than 720p

>>153790998
word.
it makes a big difference now but i'm just used to downloading 720p
also im running out of space..

>>153792018
Yes, it freezes a lot. My video card is shit.

>>153791063
Get a second display.

>>153790998
Both pics look horrible tbqh.

>>153792776
The distance isn't big enough. I'd need a larger desk.

>>153791268
bad

>>153793690
Vesa wallmount or arm that clamps to the side of your desk.

>>153793896
No, the distance to my eyes isn't big enough. I'd waste too much time moving my eyes from one end of the screens to the other.
And I don't plan on wasting precious space in my one-room apartment by making the desk deeper.

i can just watch 720p on 1080 HDTV without any noticeable artifacts. If the source is encoded properly with hardware upscale means those 1080p doesn't worth those extra Mb and resolutions. With few exception ofcourse, no need to waste your data it isnt worth it.

also for PC if ur GPU arent up for the task, going 1080p in 1366x768 display is overkill.

>>153794218
>having limited internet data
>storage space being an issue at all for non-archival releases

>>153793305
Sounds like an anon who's too embarrassed to admit he can't tell the difference.

Because madVR often does better job upscalling to 1080p than already upscalled 1080p releases.

I have a question. In my case some releases on 1080 freeze constantly in some parts, while other releases don't. Say, I just watched the last Kobayashi episode on 1080 and it did perfectly, while I watched some Nichibros episodes on 1080 too but it had some freezes here and there, specially when showing a panoramic lanscape or something similar. Is it because of the encode or something like that? I don't know about video quality and that kind of shit.

>>153791055
This also, at the 2.5 Yards of distance needed to properly appreciate the whole screen, it's impossible for the human eyes to distinguish the diference in resolution.

What an utterly boring troll-bait thread.

>>153794762
10-bit releases can be slower than standard releases.
>specially when showing a panoramic lanscape or something similar
Does it freeze/drop frames while panning? Are you using MPC-HC? Install xysubfilter and disable "use the built in subtitle renderer" in MPC-HC options.

>>153794920
Glasses prescriptions are pretty cheap in the current year, anon.

>>153790998
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/201443
1 looks better.

>>153791055
>>153791565
>>153791619
How can you live with such a low resolution?
I can't even go below 1440p anymore.

>>153795316
It's a laptop resolution.
Modern kids don't buy real desktops anymore. Be glad they aren't using their phones.

>>153795316
Not having autism helps.
>>153795374
Only low end laptops use that resolution.

>>153790998
File size is too big and I simply don't notice the difference. I usually go with 720 or 480 depending on my mood.

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>>153795316
>having anything but a large 1080p display for an anime-viewing PC

>>153795374
>>153795316
Personally I'd like a desktop for the many advantages it has and being able to play vidya in a good res is amazing, but computer parts over here are expensive as fuck and I'm a poorfag, so is kinda hard.
>>153794984
Gonna try it, and would start checking for 8-bit before getting a show instead of downloading anything. What's the common for the HS releases?

>>153795573
HS releases are usually 8 bit.

>>153795715
>usually

>>153795784
Believe it or not I think I recall a 10 bit HS release this season. I think it might have been Kuzu no Honkai. That's not a CR or Funi rip, but an Amazon Prime Video rip. The Commie release has much better video quality, though.

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>>153796190
Yep, I remembered correctly. It's funny that Amazon would bother to use 10-bit but still somehow completely fuck up the video quality.

>>153792011

This is the truth.

>>153790998
Too heavy. 720p is good enough and the files are smaller so i can pack a lot more stuff in my external hardisk.

>>153796361
But amazon video is great. HS is using tv rip.

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>>153791055
I have a similar issue.

>>153792018
It's pointless to do that if your monitor can't handle it.

>>153796363
And it has been for years, but the anime community has been bafflingly slow with regards to 1080p acceptance.

>>153796481
>HS is using tv rip.
Really? Source? I've never heard of them doing that before. I just assumed they were ripping from Amazon because https://fansubdb.com/wiki/Winter_2016 has Amazon listed for the simulcast.

>>153790998
1080p is just cheaply upscaled 720p. It offers no noticeable quality boost, and my automatic grabber for Nyaa just gets HorribleSubs 720p as it is. Plus, faster to download.

>>153795316
I'm poor. My PC is 7 years old.

>>153796640
These days 720p is just cheaply downscaled 1080p. See: >>153791778 >>153792011
Take some time to do some comparisons with your own eyes rather than relying on old dogma.

>>153796743
You're not bringing a single fact or evidence to boost your claim, nor can I find any.

>>153796520
God, square-like monitors are annoying.

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>>153796520
>my blog
>4chan icon

>>153795274
But you had to upscale it to tell.

>>153790998

I have bad vision and I can't tell the difference between 720 and 1080 beyond the size it makes the MPC window.

>>153796609
They don't know how to rip from amazon. Commie is ripping from amazon, the difference in quality is huge.
http://diff.pics/2rOqVgNBkILR/1

>>153796797
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/186969
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/186971
To see a similar result for yourself, go download the same episode of Maid Dragon, the HS 720p version and the HS 1080p version. Watch them both at full screen. The 1080p version will appear visually sharper.

>>153796929
I'm asking for source via an actual, legitimate article.

>>153796520
The bait level of this image is off the charts.

>>153790998
No significant difference, in the majority of cases, when watching normally. I'm using a 60" TV screen as my main monitor.

>>153796911
Oh, I get it now. That's a Fuji Television logo in the HS screenshots. Huh. HS ripping from TV and using 10-bit. That's a first.

>>153797003
They did the same with Kabaneri iirc.

>>153796929
Player used and settings?

>>153796954
Fuck off, obvious troll.
https://web.archive.org/web/20120118102418/http://blisswater.info/regarding-crunchyroll-and-1080p-streaming 2012 article by Daiz in which, in three of the examples, the Crunchyroll 1080p stream had a higher visual fidelity than the TV broadcasts.
This information is being provided for the education of other anons and not to entertain your bait.

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>>153790998
I do when it's worthy.

>>153797003
>>153796911
>>153796609
So, uh, where is HS getting Kuzu no Honkai subs from then? Japanese closed captioning?

>>153797133
>2012
You're not helping yourself.

>>153797206
OCRing amazon's subs.

>>153797133
You're the one not providing any real source or links.

>>153796959
How new?

I download 720p releases and downscale them by 50%.

Fight me.

>>153791268
>I sit porn
There must be something wrong with me.

>>153790998
Because my laptop's highest rez is 720p. Also you're a faggot and I don't like you.

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>>153797185
Only maidragon and urara are worthy.
Good to know 1080p is still a meme, this thread made me doubt for a second.

OP, are you making this thread again to justify yourself of downloading 1080p releases?

Because it seems like you're desperate for confirmation of others.

>>153797513
Quit it with the terrible oldfag acting, it just makes your newness that much more apparent.
I saw this image when it was posted years ago too, doesn't change the fact that it's still triggering.

>>153797703
Again, how new?

>>153797703
>years ago
>clock says 22/02/17
just admit you're new before you embarrass yourself more

>>153797703
I never claimed I'm an oldfag, I've been here for only 6 years.
>I saw this image when it was posted years ago too, doesn't change the fact that it's still triggering
Consider getting help.

>>153797782
I phrased that poorly, "images similar to it".

>>153797985
My point still stands, if you still get triggered by an old meme you have issues.

>>153798038
Yeah well, this is 4ch.
Who actually posts here who doesn't have issues?

>>153798235
>>153798038
>>153797985
>>153797782
>>153797769
>>153797761
>>153797703
>>153797643
Thanks for killing the thread, faggots.
You may return to your home generals and blogging threads now.

>>153798828
>oh noes you killed the millionth thread about some pretty inconsequential fact everybody knows
すみません、先輩。

>>153790998
If you want to watch something in 1080p just get closer to your screen, fucking dumbass.

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This is the first season in which I've started to notice actual higher-def shows.

Kind of a unrelated question, but do any of you anons have a system set up to auto download a show when it's released?

>>153799779
Yes it's called flexget.

>>153799803
Wow, that can't get anymore literal for what I'm looking for, thanks desu.

>>153799868
The anime gods weep for your suffering.

>>153799779
Shana Project is quick and easy, but it's basically just an anime-specific flexget

>>153794459
The one below is obviously 720p.
Pics are still horrible, though.

>>153799779
Are anons actually this lazy?

>>153800159
Why wouldn't you automate a repetitive task like downloading anime?

>>153791215
>>153791215
buy a second monitor

>>153799779
Taiga

>>153800159
I used to do it when I was following a lot of shows, but now I only keep up with 3 or 4 a season so it doesn't matter much

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>>153799868
>bragging about using kissanime

>>153800020
But can it run headless and interact with transmission?
Flexget really is comfy, for instance it can download the first episode of every show and remove torrents with a certain ratio from one tracker only.
Transmission + flexget + plex + kodi is the comfiest setup.

>>153791706
An upscale from 900p is better than a downscale from 900p. Not to mention stuff that's done in full 1080p.

>>153800221
Because it only takes a couple of seconds to do and you're only saving a few seconds probably.
When you snap open your Cheeto's bag do you feel the need to automate that as well?
If so, seek help.

>>153800520
I bet you don't even have a homeserver, pleb.

>>153800520
You should probably seek help if you actually eat as many cheeto bags as anime episodes you download.

>>153800520
>couple of seconds to do and you're only saving a few seconds probably
No not really. Depending on how many shows and which subbers you follow, it can save a lot of time plus it's extremely convenient.

>>153800520
Automatization is the bane of humanity. You can't stop it.

>>153800312
And we have a winner, thanks anon.

>>153800312
Can it identify OVAs that come out like 6 months after the series aired out of nowhere?

>>153800221
I get my airing anime from AnimeBytes which doesn't offer an RSS feed.

>>153800973
eew

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>>153800312
>requires a myanime account

>>153800973
>AnimeBytes which doesn't offer an RSS feed
Yes it does.

>>153801084
How do you keep track of anime you've watched otherwise?
>Inb4 notepad

>>153801140
with my brain

Be it 720p or 1080p, anime is better when you watch it with your loli imouto.

>>153801140
RSS feeds.

>>153801140
vim and a markdown file.

>>153801084
Or that other site. But it requires nothing, you can keep your whole list offline and never sync.
Anyway if you can't get over forum being shit and accept using the database part of it, then good riddance, you fucking autist.

>>153801140
notepad

>>153801140
What is worng with notepad? Just write down anime you want to watch, and delete it once you have watched it, the only reason you would need any kind of anime list is to brag about it later with your internet friends.

>>153801211
shill harder

>>153800483
Could you share your config?
I tried to mess with flexget once but I can't fuck with Yaml

>>153801458
>open-source
>shill
Yeah, I'm getting them big moniez for doing it.

>>153790998
I believe in 480p.

>>153800483
>Transmission + flexget + sshfs + mpv is the comfiest setup.
FTFY

>>153799779
RSS and a torrent client.

>>153799779
Nyaa RSS feeds

>>153799779
I would if I torrented, but I'm Amerifat, so I use alternative methods of anime acquisition which don't put my IP address on a public tracker.

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>>153790998
Because most animes that i watch barely even have a DVD rips.

>>153801961
>sshfs + mpv
My nigga.

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>>153802267
New anime is better, though. It has cuter girls and more of them.

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MadVR > mpv
qBitTorrent > Transmission

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>>153802444
>>153802444
>>153802444

Am I the only one who still uses the Kawaii Codec Pack instead of MPV?

>>153802522
I have found through experience that KCP and CCCP can create problems that manual MPC-HC+MadVR+xysubfilter installation do not.
There's still a lot of us here using MPC+MadVR, as MadVR has more powerful upscaling options than mpv at the moment, and text editor configuration is inconvenient and for smug autists.

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>>153802404
Nah, mate.

>>153802603
Autists? On 4chan? No way.

>>153791651
This explains why /a/ is full of retards who don't actually understand what they're watching half the time.

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>manually downloading the torrents from nyaa/HS/bakabt + Deluge + CCCP + no MadVR
It feels weird being the only sane person around.

>>153802915
>manually
>sane
If you're a NEET maybe.

>>153802912
Yeah, I completely agree because they're not really watching anime and do not deserve to hold opinions on it as such.

>>153803093
Don't reply to tripfags.

>>153803117
Same with the people who watch it at 2-3x speed.

I am because I can afford storage and monitor since I'm not a third worlder or a poor NEET like most of this board.

>>153803310
Nobody does that, you're being memed.

>>153803333
I do.

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>>153792355
>bang drums
wtf anon?

>>153802267
>animes

>>153803117
>>153803310
This place is in desperate need of a casual faggot purge.

>>153803333
I watch let's plays at 1.5x speed, so it seems pretty believable to me.

>>153803234
>not anonymizing everybody

>>153802915
>no MadVR
Having a toaster != being sane
Koume a best, tho.

>>153803522
Probably BanG Dream!

>>153790998
Why are the colours so different?

>>153803330
I'm a poor NEET and still have a 32" 1080p display. QVC and HSN offer payment plans with no credit checks to poor NEETs, so there's no excuse for anyone here not to have a nice 1080p display.

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>>153799705
The show was made in 1080 probably because the amount of CG presence. 1080 mastering actually hurts its genga quality because all the tracing aliases are now visibly magnified.
Look at the guitar strings when it's not CG. There is a reason why most shows are using 720p resolution for genga.

>>153803716
Well then I guess it's just the third worlders.

>>153801119
Oh shit, I'm dumb. Thanks Anon.

>>153803693
Looks the same to me.

Why download anime, why don't just watch it online? There's plenty of free websites that stream in 1080p.

>>153804563
inb4 20 replies

>>153804563
I don't enjoy looking at watermarks

>>153804585
>>153804695
Seriously, why?

>>153804782
Lower quality (not all 1080p are equal, streaming sites have low bitrate and shitty encodes), often watermarks, never updated to better quality source when BDs come out (so for previous seasons it's even worse to stream), gets releases later than nyaa (unless it's a paid site, but who's stupid enough to waste money on free stuff?), often not great loadtimes, often lags when skipping to other point of an episode, you never know when a new episode will be added and waste time checking that (whereas Taiga or RSS downloads shit for you as soon as it's out and informs you when an episode finishes downloading).

>>153805102
Hmm, thanks for the info.
I don't really care about the watermarks and having to check for new episodes, and i don't have problems with loadtimes, but the low bitrate thing and the source on old stuff not being updated kinda sucks, maybe i'll start to download stuff again.

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>>153804782
The primary reason to download instead of stream is banding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_banding
Streams suffer from serious banding. Horriblesubs downloads, which are usually rips of streams, also suffer this problem, but you can nullify the problem by playing the video back with MPC-HC+MadVR or mpv, both of which have debanding features. Here's a screenshot from a Non Non Biyori Horriblesubs download without debanding.

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>>153804782
>>153805659
And here's the same shot with debanding. Note Komari's cheeks in both shots. Debanding makes a HUGE difference in many scenes. The biggest visual problem with streaming is banding, but the debanding of MadVR/mpv eliminates this issue. With debanding on, Horriblesubs 1080p downloads often give the viewer higher visual fidelity than any available source until the BD rips are released.

I don't give a shit Daiz. Anime is 720p

>>153804782
>>153805659
>>153805758
Another advantage that playback in MadVR or mpv has over streaming players is Smooth Motion. Have you ever noticed panning shots stuttering while watching a stream? That's due to a mismatch between frame rate and your display's refresh rate. Smooth motion fixes this and makes those panning shots go smoothly without stuttering.

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>>153804782
Yet another advantage that playback in MadVR or mpv has over streaming players is advanced upscaling algorithms. Some people have displays with >1080p resolution and some streams are only available in 720p or even lower. In these cases, it's beneficial to be using a media player with advanced upscaling options for better video quality.
I'll be using MPC-HC with and without MadVR here to illustrate this. Here's a screenshot of Horriblesubs' 720p release of Maid Dragon, in MPC-HC, without MadVR. MPC-HC's default upscaling is used here to simulate a streaming player's upscaling. It shouldn't be much different.

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>>153806251
Here's the same frame, only now with MadVR, upscaling set to NGU high, the most powerful upscaling setting available at the moment. Notice how much sharper and clearer the lineart is. That's because MadVR (and mpv to a lesser extent) does a better job of upscaling video than streaming players can.

>>153804782
So, by now, the answer to your question should be abundantly clear: because it looks better when done correctly.

>>153791778
>>153792011
Checking AniDB seems like a pain considering these are just speedsubs and not for archiving. The last things Underwater released were the first season of Ajin, a few episodes of Gangsta, Cinderella Girls, Knights of Sidonia, and Paracyte and they were only released in 720p.

That's going two years back now and their only 1080 releases are from BD sources. Even fidelity obsessed Daiz who's been pushing 10bit and HEVC isn't making 1080p releases from streaming sources.

>>153806386
>Checking AniDB seems like a pain considering these are just speedsubs and not for archiving.
I want the video quality of my anime viewing to be optimized whether it's my first viewing as it's airing or a rewatch of BDs. Checking anibin allows me to make an educated choice whether downloading 720p or 1080p as it's airing will give me superior video quality.
>The last things Underwater released were...
IIRC the example I was thinking of was Kill la Kill.

>>153806549
And yes, I'm aware Underwater's KLK release was 720p. IIRC Daiz used the 1080p HS release video and downscaled it properly because the result was better than TV rips or the 720p HS release.

>>153806630
Also,
>why wouldn't Daiz just release KLK in 1080p then
http://anibin.blogspot.ca/2013/10/1_8412.html because the lineart was scanned at 720p.
>why bother to downscale the 1080p release
720p Crunchyroll/Funimation bitrate, improper Crunchyroll/Funimation (I forget who simulcast KLK) downscaling, poor TV sources. Any or all of the above.

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>>153806291
Honestly the difference between mpv and madvr quality is pretty negligible. Pic related is mpv ewa_lanczossharp and krigbilateral.

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>>153806291
>>153806844
And here's adaptive sharpen 2pass if you're into that.

>>153806844
>Honestly the difference between mpv and madvr quality is pretty negligible.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/198486
Look at the tip of Kanna's (the loli's) horn as you mouse over and out. MadVR's NGU is a step ahead of anything mpv has at the moment for most uses; it can struggle with quadrupling, but madshi is working on this.

>>153806901
>And here's adaptive sharpen 2pass if you're into that.
Ringing. Yeah, not into that. The best part of NGU is the lack of ringing.

>>153806291
>how much sharper and clearer the lineart is
Here is the fundamental misguided mentality. Anime isn't game graphics, it's a medium where sharpness isn't always the best.
Sharpness from postprocessing is only unfaithful reproduction of the original creative intention. If anything sharpened lineart only makes its aliases into more visible distractions. The lineart is meant to be presented with a level of blurriness.
Whenever I see the disgusting ringing I start thinking, "oh some guy is thinking he's smart enough again to turn on a sharpening filter" and it looks like crap. Madvr produces minimum ringing at the cost of unreasonably reducing the thickness of the lines resulting in unfaithful reproduction of the original picture. I did my masters and have 10 years of experience in image processing and this kind of filtering cargo cult is nothing but a circlejerk and a placebo. These days I just use cubic interp. Less is more.

>>153802404
>cuter girls
Girls have been looking progressively less cute since the 2000s.

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>>153807510
>Sharpness from postprocessing is only unfaithful reproduction of the original creative intention.
You don't know what the original creative intent is if you're not the creator.
>The lineart is meant to be presented with a level of blurriness.
No it's not.
>Madvr produces minimum ringing at the cost of unreasonably reducing the thickness of the lines
No it doesn't.
>I did my masters and have 10 years of experience in image processing
No you don't.
>These days I just use cubic interp
No you don't.
>mfw this entire elaborate trollpost
I appreciate the effort.

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>>153807510
>I did my masters and have 10 years of experience in image processing
I have a 150 IQ and I'm to intelligent to fool with this kind of lie.

>>153807710
>hur dur i know nothing but it's definitely no no no

>>153792621
>saving HS rips
NANI?!

>>153808203
It's minor, but it's there. The NGU result is better. Slightly so, but better.

>>153799868
>kissanime
End yourself

>>153790998
What a failure of thread. This shit isn't summoning anyone.

>>153799868
I have a i5 6600 and don't use MadVR

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>>153799868
kissanime doesn't have this quality streamboy

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>>153806251
In my pc doesn't look that blurry

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>>153809005
>4MB per screenshot

Anime quality is fine as long as It's 720p above, I mean most of the time I look at subs.
I wouldn't see any difference.

>>153809005
This post is worthless without more information. Is that from the 720p or 1080p release of the show? What media player was used to take the screenshot? What upscaling settings were used, if applicable?

>>153790998
Because I don't care enough about what a few autistic people think to please them.
If you continue being this annoying, I'd rather go back to watching anime in 480p out of spite.

>>153809053
It is only logical to use a lossless format like PNG for the purpose of comparing playback methods. .jpg artifacts would render such comparisons invalid.

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>>153806771
>>153806630
Ok now you're making sense. The lineart is at 720p but the only reason to go with 1080p is that the 720p streaming bitrate is too low.

>>153807314
>NGU
Can't handle NNEDI3?

>>153809858
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/197644
NGU > NNEDI3
Look at the eyes of the guy in the purple shirt on the right while mousing over.

>>153809499
1080p with mpv

>>153809991
>mpv screenshot looks better than mpc-hc without MadVR screenshot
No sher, Shitlock.

>>153810032
so why use mpc at all?

>>153810269
MadVR

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>>153809991
>>153810032
Wait. I just realized you were comparing a screenshot of the 1080p file with a screenshot of the 720p file upscaled with MPC's default upscaler. That was completely fucking pointless and meaningless.

I do. It probably isn't relevant but I presume it means less upscaling done on-the-spot which means I can allocate resources to refining. Even if it doesn't, I don't care.

I have a bunch of storage anyway so it isn't a big deal. If it's a big series I'll stick to 720, but otherwise I just use 1080.
>>153795374
My laptop is 1600p. Although it is a more expensive ($1100 CND) laptop. The main appeal of it was that it was the cheapest laptop at Best Buy that also had a dedicated GPU. It's not even powerful but it makes a world of a difference.

>>153791055

is really hard write "1080 laptops" in Amazon search bar?

>>153790998
Same reason why I'll never understand 4k enthusiasts: what is the fucking point. 720p is perfectly fine as it is, and it's really rare to see any difference beyond that. For anime, that is. 3D is another discussion entirely.

It's like having 20/20 vision and complaining it's shit because you can't see the cells on a leaf. Just why?

>>153809471
This, /a/ is just being autist as always.

>>153810478
>it's really rare to see any difference beyond that.
Compare >>153809005 a screenshot of a 1080p file to >>153806251 a screenshot of a 720p file upscaled to 1080p.
If you can't see a difference in fidelity you need your eyes examined.

>>153802912
If you can't tell the difference between sequences that require your full attention and sequences that don't, you may have actual brain problems.
Focusing your mind 100% on what you are watching for several hours at once would be an incredibly exhausting activity. No sane person would do that. Every movie and TV show has moments of calm where you are allowed to relax. You wouldn't enjoy them otherwise.
But sure, blame me for whatever retarded bait threads you fell victim to.

>>153790998

Because our Tv networks dont show japanese anime.
Because people is lazy for download +500 MB per episode

>>153810613
I download a 500mb file in 2min.
I just open the torrent, go to the bathroom ,take a piss them come back and is ready to watch.

>>153810568
Isn't that comparison kinda moot because of this? >>153810373

>only watching 1080p anime
>not watching 10bit FLAC 1080p anime
What's it like to be a pleb?

>>153810932
No. The point of >>153810568 was illustrating that a very real fidelity difference exists between 720p and 1080p.
>>153809005 by itself was a pointless, meaningless post because it was replying to a post about upscaling with a non-upscaled screenshot.

>>153811026
I'd be interested in seeing comparisons between 8 bit and 10 bit video in anime, with debanding on and off.
Blind test studies show humans can't reliably hear a difference between 192 kbps mp3 and FLAC, even with expensive reproduction equipment that can reliably reproduce 20 Hz - 20 kHz with a good impulse response.

>>153811344
Why not just do it yourself? There's plenty of lossless bluray rips floating around on nyaa, make some 8 and 10 bit encodes and see for yourself.

>>153811601
Maybe someday when I'm bored enough, sure.

>>153808528
>back to page 1 it goes
Jealous?

>>153790998
Because I cant tell the difference between them

>>153794218
Having a meme resolution.

How come watching animays in 720 is fine, but not okay for 480, but somehow 1080p is also bad.
Seems pretty hypocritical honestly!

Because I honestly don't give a single shit for the difference between 720p and 1080p when most anime and cartoons lack the level of detail in art that would warrant the need for such a change.

Look at what you posted It's so simplistic and lacks any genuine detail or depth, is it really a necessity or do you just want to stroke your ego a bit more?

Now if we were talking about 3D things such as movies, video games or hell something in 2D that's actually real eye-candy I might turn my head.

>>153814812
Anime is to a very large degree line art.
That means we have very localized details. This means, that even a minor loss in quality can lead to a much more noticeable effect than with a medium much richer in detail and noise.
When the lines in an anime are blurry, everybody notices.

There is a reason why nthousand x nthousand pixel vector images of anime images are so popular despite looking so shit. They have really fucking sharp lines.

>>153814901
>much more noticeable
on what level?
Do you mean the comparisons posted above?
because even with 20/20, I had to press my face up to my screen just see the differences.
All that shit's so minimal that you have to seriously be pressed up to the screen in the dark in a lower resolution for it to really be a problem, and that's only if you're constantly pausing just to look.

The blur and noise are so inconsequential, that you have to be a "phile" type person who needs everything meticulously perfect or he'll have a stroke.

>When the lines in an anime are blurry, everybody notices
Yeah, when you're watching at anything below 720 or something with thick lines and a deeper art style. Or a video game where you actually a good clear image.

Believe it or not, it's not healthy putting your face that close to the screen to the point where you can actually see the pixels just because you want to see the "True HD 1080p 4K" perfection, because you would seriously never see those "problems" if you heeded those warnings you're usually given.

My point is that it doesn't matter in minimalist garbage like OP or anything I'm seeing here, it's a waste of time and bandwidth on something that looks scrapped together anyway.

>>153815463
>Do you mean the comparisons posted above?
But the comparisons are between anime and anime. Not between anime & live action.
>because even with 20/20, I had to press my face up to my screen just see the differences.
You may want to invest in a better monitor. There's a few obvious ones there.
But that's digressing from the topic. The images above are generally far beyond what live-action is released in.
Did you know that they release full length movies in 1080p at 700 MB and people download that shit?
I am not arguing for the best quality theoretically achievable. No one is. Almost nobody wants to download the actual BD rips.
This thread is about minor improvements without having to go to too great lengths.
>My point is that it doesn't matter in minimalist garbage like OP
And my entire argument was about pointing out that this is nonsense. Minimalist "garbage" requires more quality than other stuff.
Reread my other post.

What kind of person with an ounce of self-respect watches anime in anything but the best quality available?

I don't see the point.

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Because I stream,its easy

>>153792011
>>153791778
shut up, Daiz

>>153791055
FeelsBadMan

>>153807510
>unreasonably

I usually prefer 1080 but for some reason Lelouch looked horrible in hd, at least the first episode.

>>153817868
You have no idea what secondary means.