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>throw a homer What the fuck did they mean by this, /a/?

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>throw a homer

What the fuck did they mean by this, /a/? Because I've been into professional baseball for YEARS and I've never HEARD of garbage like "throw a homer" before.

Did they mean "HIT a homer"? Are "professional" translators such garbage that they fuck up basic terminology and then try to blatantly defend it because they don't want their precious egos shattered?
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y u mad tho
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Don't CR higher ups check what the translator puts out before he finishes?


This person seems to just be doing whatever he wants.
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The translators are unironically "just pranking bro". The sort of people who go through life fucking up at every turn, and whimpering out "i-it's just a game!" or some other variant.
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>>153753661
>he's never thrown a homer
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>real sentient homosapiens unironically part with living expenses for this garbage

Holy shit my sides.
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>>153753661
Are you faggots still sperging out over this? Please, just let it go.
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Literally who
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>>153753661
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>>153753661
I know nothing about baseball, but I think it sounds fine.
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>4chan next to reddit

truly our closest friends
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Xyther is hella retarded
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>>153753661
>another monday of anons shitting the bed for fucking gabriel dropout subs
>next week will be the same
and the next
and the next
and the next
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I'm not watching Gabriel Dropout so what's the context behind the sentence? Could they have meant it as, "threw a home run pitch."
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At leas Stella subs were cute in a bad way, Gabriel subs are simply bad.
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The last episode will be subbed entirely in emojis.
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>>153753661
I watched both versions and preferred ESL-kuns, also after watching both you really see how many liberties they took with it.
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>>153754726
Good thing that we're past the halfway mark at this point. But really, if the same guy subs another thing next season I might just have to take a break from /a/.
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>>153753661
It's a Simpsons reference, you underage cunt.
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>>153753661
You could say that 'throwing a home run' means you threw a shitty pitch.
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>>153754822
It's actually a subtle shout-out to the poem "Odyssey" you philistine.
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>>153753661
The case on the first result in that screenshot seems to imply it's not being able to complete what should have been an easy home run, therefore "throwing" it in the same way you would throw a game.
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>>153754822
sasuga hertzzz senpai maybe you can get tl-kun to throw in a truly epic reference like BAZINGA in next ep : )
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Since we're talking about baseball, I just finished Cross Game and I think it might be my favorite anime of all time. Are there any other sports/baseball anime that will make me cry like a bitch? Should I just watch Touch to fill the void?
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>>153754963
The only baseball anime I've seen is Princess Nine and I don't know about crying, I just want to advertise it because I loved it
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>>153754963
Weird taste.
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>expecting a bunch of weeaboo nerds to know what throwing a homer means
>from /sp/ with love
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>>153754936
>sasuga
I think you mean: Memes move Mt. Hertz
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What the hell does this even mean?
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>>153755023
Thanks, I'll check it out. I sort of wanted to do the same thing with Cross Game, I wish I was here when it aired.

>>153755026
What's weird about it? It was like everything I enjoyed about Anohana without the supernatural crap, plus it had baseball which I also enjoy. Its like it was made for me. And the art was cute as fuck. I fell in love with almost every character.
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this sounds hella dumb
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I like to imagine when Kimi ni Todoke gets finished, she'll start a season about the Legend of Blazing Bat: the College Years.
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>>153755179
Ive always found sports anime very boring , and you dont really see sports fans around /a/.
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>>153755225
So did I until I watched Cross Game. There is a lot of baseball but its definitely more of a romcom/SoL. I don't think I could get into an all-male sports anime where the focus is entirely on the game, that's definitely not for me.
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>>153755225
Also I'm assuming you've seen/read it but if you haven't just go watch the first episode.
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>>153753661
Get it together CR
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>dressing devilish = raising hell

THE MEANING IS TOTALLY THE SAME
LITERALLY NOTHING WAS CHANGED BECAUSE MUH FUNCTIONAL EQUIVALENCY

t. Daiz
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>>153754785
It's probably the same retard that did hot sweaty ping pong girls
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I hope there'll be more of them just for the sake of triggering you.
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>153755433
nobody cares herkz
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At least /gg/ was free
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>>153753661
>americans actually pay for these shit translations
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>>153754726
You know what would be a good way to stop this? GIVING THAT SHOW GOOD OFFICIAL SUBS FOR FUCKING ONCE.
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>166 comments
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=901193
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>>153755580
I never knew CR was a governement project

Hope the God Emperor cuts that apart harder than Sesame Street
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>>153754867
REAPER REAPER
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>>153755396
It almost almost as certain as death.
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You guys do realize the guy doing this comes here and is basking in your comments, trying to push the limit as far as he can?

There's no way in hell that the subs could be getting worse any other way, it beggers belief that anyone would do it on purpose.
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>>153753661
The nonsensical line and the kid talking like that in front of his mother, in Japan, were both pretty bad. "Jeez lady" really?

>>153753730
It's the editor for the english subs. The spanish subs are what the translator is giving us before the retarded editor intentionally ruins the script with their highschool level writing and unwarranted meme/idiom insertions. Someone really needs to send a letter to Crunchyroll's higher ups about the intentional sabotage.
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It's OK, there will be better subs for the rest of the season.

There's competition now. Fansubs have been dead for a long time, but maybe there's a chance now.
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>>153757716
At least the deathly puns mostly died off after that episode.
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I'm making a v3 of this shit with every little typo fixed and actual proper signs.

I might be a fuck up, but I'm a fuck up who learns.
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>>153758889
Probably worth noting that Horse + Deer is the Kanji
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>>153756231
>God Emperor
This shit is so gay.
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>>153758889
Yeah see, this shit doesn't work. You can't put translator notes INSIDE AN EPISODE.

Dumb fuck
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>>153759135
y u mad tho?
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>>153756196
I knew i shouldn't have looked. Started getting triggered at bassgs435 and then herkz showed up and proved that he indeed the absolutely biggest retarded faggot on the planet.
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>Muh context
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wew
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>>153759231
Fuck off Daiz
You can and it's the perfect way to handle the Akuma pun.
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>247,000 results
Congratulations faggots, "throw a homer" is now a uesed phrase.
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>>153759767
But Americans hate reading, so they need to read adapted jokes or else they get angry.
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>>153759324
Idolizing men makes you a homo though
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>>153759657
>oh what's this you don't like this show's translation? Then drop the whole thing you shit
As expected of someone who procreates with equines.
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>>153753661
It's talking about homing, and in a homing missile.

>>153755177
Pun of "curiosity killed the cat."
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>>153753661
Did they mean "Throw a homer" as in a homing missile?
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>>153753661
Shut up your not even a professional translator.
They LOVE these jokes.
you dont know japanese
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>>153760103
>>153760156
That's a rather inaccurate homing missile then.
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>>153754726
We already have content for them end-of-the-year collages my man
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>>153754700
>People think turning "what did you guys even come here for" into this is acceptable

NISA and Neptunia caused some real lasting harm to translation and localization quality
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>>153759657
Why is this subhuman allowed to live?
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>>153760590
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If we taking about subs. I just remembered another retarded shit -,Shinsekai Yori translation by UTW. And no, 'cantus' is ironically the least problem of this subs. It was so much retarded, that it almost gave me a cancer. Fortunately CR subs (which weren't that bad in this case and 100% better than this crap from UTW) were perfectly timed for BD release so I just remuxed MKVs.
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>>153755450
Holy fuck, I haven't even paid attention to subs there. Bare skin. What the fuck. It doesn't even make sense because it has nothing to do with demons.
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>>153761006
Leave him be, burger-mind is an uncurable disease :(
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you know it's bad when not even CR fags like it
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>>153759657
Why is he even a mod on nyaa?
It's always the same thing, the most subhuman autists somehow manage to get into power positions.
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>>153761080
>Grabiel
>arent

Also, it should be "Why is it called Gabriel Dropout if she still goes to school?"
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>>153762959
Because non autist are getting power in shit that does matter. Only autists who don't have anything else in life care about getting power in websites for chink cartoons.
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>>153753730
Clearly CR is just completely giving up on the TLC (tender, loving care) that others like Asenshi make a point of.

I'm kidding, I know TLC means translation check. That kinda is what's lacking here though, seems like they don't have multiple people looking over the sub script.

Probably able to output faster and thus make more money that way.
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>>153759231
Take a look at Akiba's Trip's most recent episode.
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>>153759231
Just because there are idiots who use TL Notes wrong (putting their shitty opinions, old Gintama subbers who only point out super obvious refs like Dragon Ball) doesn't mean TL Notes can't be used.
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>>153754726
>gabriel dropout will end
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>>153761599
kuma means bear
akuma means demon
a kuma = a bear
lel
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>>153763699
>I'm functionally illiterate
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>>153761599
Those anons decided to go with the bear side of the pun and kind of ignored the devil part, it worked but obviously it couldn't get the entire joke. That's why hating on all TL notes is dumb as fuck, most language jokes are impossible to translate properly while keeping all their meaning intact.
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Where do I find corrected subs?
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>>153763863
>hating on all TL notes
Many people say this but I don't remember shitstorms about TL notes. Besides CG of course. Ok, there was a bit of trolling sometimes but at least it was contained. Now the same shit permeates the entirety of the sub.
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reminder that even people who pay for CR shit, hate these subs.
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>>153763955
That famous CG one was done on purpose by a bunch of fags, you know. TL notes should ideally be used for things that can't be translated properly without losing a bunch of their original meaning, like the akumabear and horsedeer jokes.
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>>153763978
but are they professionals tho
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I'm actually amazed that the Spanish subs are actually much better done than the English ones. Like, the ones actually translating from nip are the spics. I would use the Spanish subs, but fuck horriblesubs for not ripping them.
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>>153761599
Haven't seen those subs, but screenshot probably missing the context. Most likely subbers added build-up to the joke e.g. added a line somewhere before "you need to look more devilish, for example to reveal more skin".
I would probably go with good old "unbearable" pun. Something like this:
>You should act more like devil, to become completely shameless and unbearable
>I might have something that will help you
>Un-bear-able

>>153763863
TL notes ruin the joke too. Jokes are never funny when they are explained. So it's always better to try to use even lamest and stupidest puns instead of TL notes.
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>>153764258
Professionally illiterate.
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>>153764079
>TL notes should ideally be used for things that can't be translated properly without losing a bunch of their original meaning, like the akumabear and horsedeer jokes.
You must be retarded if you think that original meaning of akumabear is so important it needs TL notes. It just shouldn't be oh-so-beastly fucking bad.
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>>153764330
Jokes are never funny if you don't understand them either. If you didn't get the relation of "ah, kuma" and "akuma" then the whole joke is lost to you, no matter how much subs try to make them English-friendly.
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>>153764466
I liked the bear skin, bare skin variant.
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>>153754571
This is the best part of this whole thing.
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If we keep bitching them out for being fucking garbage they might try to intentionally get even shittier next week in defiance, trying to prove to us that somehow they are good translators for intentionally botching something as far as they can get away with. At which point we can just petition to CR to fire those fucking faggots.

If they get paid to do work for a product with over a fucking million subscribers and botch it just because /a/ rightfully calls them retarded incompetents for doing exactly that, then they should not get paid to do that job period. They shouldn't even be allowed to manage a fucking McDonald's if they are that petty and immature.
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>>153764330
>TL notes ruin the joke too. Jokes are never funny when they are explained. So it's always better to try to use even lamest and stupidest puns instead of TL notes.

No this was literally the perfect place to use a TL note and people would find it funnier than your attempt at a pun.
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>>153764466
You don't need to know kuma-akuma relation, you need to find the visual joke funny. Raphiel tried to help Vigne with her devil problem, but instead gave he bear costume. That's the whole joke. There's already bare skin variant. I proposed another one. There were few other attempts in previous threads too. They all work and they all make sense.

>>153764698
You have no idea what you're talking about, retard. Maybe you should watch at least 20 anime before talking in this thread ever again.
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>>153764466
It's really sad seeing how the english audience gets treated like retards and how they defend it. The superior spanish subs included a TL which was quick and to the point explaining the pun. They also don't have any of the retarded idioms and obscure references littering their subs.
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>>153759657
>if you don't like it just don't watch it
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>>153764796
I thought the grisly/grizzly solution was really smart
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>>153764796
The problem is that then you're left with these huge moon runes in the middle of the screen that get completely ignored as they serve no purpose in the new joke, but I'll admit that the bear skin thing was a decent way to deal with that whole bit anyway.
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>>153764796
So you're just a retard shitposting and I shouldn't waste my time is what you're trying to say.

>You don't need to know kuma-akuma relation
Nigger it's there in fucking Kanji for the nips. How hard is it to write Akuma = Devil, A Kuma = A Bear.
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>>153764796
>muh burger mind can't handle text in a show I'm watching with fucking subtitles because I don't understand the language.

Stick to dubs faggot
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>>153753661
I'm not a native english speaker but I don't have any big problems reading. But some passages I legitimately couldn't understand. Either using obscure sayings or unrelated expressions that don't even account for what's happening on screen.
Talk about translations.
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>>153764330
>TL notes ruin the joke too. Jokes are never funny when they are explained. So it's always better to try to use even lamest and stupidest puns instead of TL notes.
>Thanks Kami-sama!
>TL Note: Kami - 神(god), 髪(hair)
or
>That was a hairy situation we got out of!
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>>153764878
Akuma - kuma is probably the second most overused pun in anime after koi (love) - koi (fish). I'm sure it was already translated in dozens of different ways. No idea why CR guys picked the worst possible variant.

>>153764953
Why not write absolutely everything in moonrunes?
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>>153759656
Who the hell translated that one?
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If everyone knew Japanese this wouldn't happen.
Why is the easiest solution the hardest?
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>>153765235
It's only hard because you're not even trying
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>>153765193
>Why not write absolutely everything in moonrunes?
It's funny how the mentally ill always resorts to defending their stance by using extremes. Every time.
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>>153765235
If no-one knew Japanese this wouldn't happen.
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wouldnt a pitcher never want to throw any homers? cause then hes giving up runs.
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>>153765235
But this ugly girl told me I can't learn Japanese.
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>>153765392
>Ugly
Say your death haiku.
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>>153765167
>Thanks Kami-sama!
>TL Note: Kami - 神(god), 髪(hair)
Pure cancer. Even if translator gives up and decides to use TL notes it should be something like this
>Thanks god
>TL note: in japanese god (神) sounds the same as hair (髪)
I.e. if viewer misses TL notes due to short timing he should only miss the joke, but no the whole phrase.
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>>153765392
The fuck did you just call me, bitch?
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>>153765439
>Thanks god
commiedevs go home

>Thanks Kami-sama
>Note: Kami can mean god or hair
is superior
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>>153765439
>Thanks god
>TL note: in japanese god (神) sounds the same as hair (髪)
Actual commie devs from the stupid length of the TL note. It's no wonder you guys hate them so much when your autism prevents you from being brief.
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>>153753661

>op claims to know baseball

>can't correlate "throwing a homer" to the synonym for throwing like a girl.

sounds like someone needs to actually watch some baseball instead of posting on Cantonese comic book web pages.
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>>153765532
There is no such word as kami. There is word hair and there is god. You pick one and then explain other.

>Thanks Kami-sama
Not a single book or movie would ever leave it this way. And only fresh animufags defend it because apparently that's what they saw in their first anime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprinting_(psychology)#Baby_duck_syndrome

>>153765635
Being only 3 words shorter is usually pointless when you adding TL notes. Most likely viewer would need to pause the video anyway to read them.
If you want so you can shorten it like this:
>Thanks god
>TL note: god (神, kami) = hair (髪, kami)
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>>153753661
I threw my homer the other day, it was painful
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>>153755205
The fuck does this even supposed to mean?
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>>153765786
Do people actually use "throw a homer" now because "throwing like a girl" was so offensive the SJW crowd got it banned? I've literally never heard anyone say throw a homer, they always say throw like a girl.
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>>153765969
That one does actually make sense. Doing something cold either means not warming up or not preparing for one. If you don't specifically train for a marathon before attempting to run one you are probably going to hurt yourself.
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>>153765969
Probably she means that she needs some preparations before skipping classes. You can't start running marathon without heating up first.

English is not my first language.
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>>153765225
Its gg's trollsub of Hidan no Aria. Probably half of the posts in trollsub threads are from it.
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>>153766034

it's a funny way to say throw like a girl and i for one can see the correlation for what it is. It wasn't hard to do, some people can just THINK
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>>153766101
>trollsub
That redeems it.
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>>153765490
Oh shit
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>>153766122
>I can make up correlations to justify my memes
fuck off
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>>153765834
>literal autism
Picking one and explaining the other would kill the joke.
As with names of certain creatures and moves there are times to leave it in romaji. When such a pun is being made leaving it in italics as kami and having a quick
>Kami can mean god or hair
is a far better delivery.
The intended audience does not need to know or even care about the kanji and as a subtitle it has to be concise. The main point is that "Kami" when spoken in japanese can be interpretted in more than 1 way.

>Thanks god
>TL note: god (神, kami) = hair (髪, kami)
Is a shit job. You may as well not add the TL note because it was already ruined for people by having it as "god" and it would just confuse them
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>>153766034
>because "throwing like a girl" was so offensive the SJW crowd got it banned?

It has to be this
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>>153753661
>>153754845
To throw a homer is to deliberately fuck up trying to hit what should have been an easy home run. The batter is the one to throw a homer. Just like the expression to throw a game.
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>>153766188
You're fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>153766239

i can make correlations because i've followed baseball, unlike OP
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>>153766034
No. It doesn't mean that at all or correlate with it.

What he's trying to say is that he's doing the same thing as the CR editor and interpretting the line he doesn't understand into whatever he wants.
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>>153766381
There is no correlation. You're just pulling it out your ass to justify it
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>>153765786
Except in order to throw a homer, the ball needs to be thrown at least relatively on target. People don't hit homers when balls are thrown meters away from the strike zone.

Even if it was a relatively common saying, it's counter to what's actually happening and what was actually being said.
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Fact: the only ones who are hating on TL notes are stupid newfags who have probably never even watched a fansubbed anime before.

t. anime expert with over 20 anime watched
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>>153754611
crunchyroll is giving gabriel dropout memesubs
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>>153766448
>There are people who won't realize this is
>>153764796
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>>153759657
Why is Herkz such a giant fucking retard?
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>>153766509
I literally just woke up. If you don't even understand the 20 anime meme you should probably just kill yourself newshit.
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>>153766279
>Picking one and explaining the other would kill the joke.
You already killed the joke with TL note. It's completely unrecoverable. It's dead. Forget about it.

>"Kami can mean god or hair" is a far better delivery.
It's not delivery, no one will ever smile after reading it. That's just plain explanation of the original joke.

>it would just confuse them
It's literally the same and it may only confuse brain dead retards. But my variant is better because if viewer misses TL note because of bad timing he will only miss the joke. He won't miss the understanding of the whole phrase.
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>>153764325
I uploaded their subs if you want https://my.mixtape.moe/vnrzqb.rar
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>>153766393
>>153766424

>makes comment about the quality of the throw

>next scene is them teaching her how to throw a pitch

goddamn i mean spoonfeeding is one thing, but actually telling /a/ how to think outside the box is pretty sad.
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Thanks be our dark lord and savior daiz who saved us from the nightmare of fansubs to give us quality professional memesubs.
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>>153766448
>t.
And you are a retarded crossboarder
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>>153766531
Because he spends literally all his time shitposting on twitter while thinking he's a master of modern conversational english even though his only experience with it is twitter shitposts.

So therefore any dialogue that doesn't resemble a twitter shitpost seems unnatural and wrong
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>>153766678
Why haven't you killed yourself yet?
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>>153766448
I can't even understand if it's irony or just memeing.

But TL notes is indeed the product of 00s. Old ugly yellow hardsubs from 90s and 80s had almost zero TL notes.

>>153766101
Fun fact: gg translated Macross Delta last year and it had less liberties and memes than CR's Gabriel subs.
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I haven't been following the sub drama, but what does Daiz have to do with CR?
I thought he works for jewcob.
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>>153766648
We are hella lucky. Praise jesus
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>>153766876

TL; DR:

subs are fine, funny to laugh at not to use to learn conversational japanese from unless you want to converse with slang like you are trying to be a cool kid

Daiz doesn't have anything to do with this
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>>153764466
>Jokes are never funny if you don't understand them
Sure they are. Just add a laugh track and people will be amused whenever you tell them to be.
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>>153766876
CR has been doing very liberal localization that is reminiscent of cartel subs. Daiz has shown up to defend CR here, while the cartel remains passive aggressive towards /a/ in their twitter hug box.
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>>153766557
>You already killed the joke with TL note. It's completely unrecoverable. It's dead. Forget about it.
>It's not delivery, no one will ever smile after reading it. That's just plain explanation of the original joke.
Basically you're just projecting your own autistic ideas and lack of comedic sense.

>It's literally the same and it may only confuse brain dead retards
Yep that inability to put yourself into the shoes of a casual watcher is definitely a sign of autism. I can guarantee you people would look at
> god (神, kami) = hair (髪, kami)
and wonder how to interpret what they're seeing. But I understand your disability makes it hard for you to empathize or realize that what comes readily to mind for you doesn't happen for everyone else. Plenty of aspergers expect people to read their mind.
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>>153766356
No it is t you faggot, throw a homer isn't an actual phrase.
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>>153766876
Daiz killed the Jews.
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>>153766744
kill yourself fag
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>>153753661
Just learn Japanese and cut them out if it bothers you so much
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>>153753661
When I saw that I just deleted the video HOLY FUCK.
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>>153766630
>hey, throw a homer lady!
Makes no fucking sense. It isn't a real phrase.

Fucking kill yourself, I doubt your claim that you watch baseball.
Kek you probably think Kershaw is a great postseason pitcher.
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>>153766630
Anon
>What he's trying to say is that he's doing the same thing as the CR editor and interpretting the line he doesn't understand into whatever he wants.
is literally what you're doing. You could do that with the raw, it doesn't excuse a shit line and it has no actual correlation to "throwing like a girl"(which isn't what they said either)
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>>153753661
ITT: people that either need to stop being fucking weeaboos or learn japanese you lazy fucks
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>>153766876
Came in and said the subs were good while another show done by CR were bad subs even though those were good ones. You know CR fucked up when people other than /a/ is bitching about the subs and the cartel is desperately defending it.
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>tfw ss-eclipse will never save us from this horror
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>>153767036

he is thinking of the "throw" in the griefing sense, when people lose on purpose.

The throw in the subs is referring to an actual pitch.

>>153767151

it's a synonym for throwing like a girl, in a comedic sense. It's like saying I caught a fish THIIIIIIIISSSS BIG and you only hold your fingers a few inches apart. It's comedy.
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>>153753661
I'm actually really surprised Gabriel Dropout's translation of all things is getting shit from the community. I've personally been enjoying it because the liberties taken make for a more entertaining script, while not being so extreme that it loses the meaning.

I have to assume some Twitter backseat fansubbing e-celeb is out there riling people up to spearhead this movement.
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>>153767126
>Just spend a couple of years of your life learning another language because other people are to incompetent!
fuck off.
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>>153767154

>excuse a shit line

you're right, it makes a good line even better
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>>153767253
>to incompetent!
Seems English is not your forte either so why don't you just mosey along?
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>>153767232
Nigger do you even know what a synonym is? Because is sounds like you don't.

Throw a homer has 0 fucking connection, in any way, to throwing like a girl
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>>153766984
It's surprising how gg never thought about adding laughtracks to their releases.
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>not using the fixed subs
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>>153767291
For all their trolling gg still considered themselves a "real" fansub group. They would always defend their translations as legitimate.

I think the only time they actually changed anything about the audio was Sacred Seven.
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Over-localization is a slipper slope to 4Kids-tier nonsense and/or having a translator rewriting character's personalities to suit his taste. You know, like "OH MAN I REALLY LOVE THESE BURGERS" or "HEY NEP JR GRAB A BURGER AND CHILL."

Of course there's a twinge of hypocrisy in that since stupid overlocalizing faggots ended up accidentally making memes that still endure to this day because we liked them--like Barret or Phoenix Wright or Pokemon being full of JELLY DONUTS instead of onigiri. But seriously fuck off with these forced "Abrahamic references" fucking irc memebrigade subbers.
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>>153767286

>connection

The word is connotation, and a synonym is also how much you like the taste of semen

because it's a synonym for go suck a dick, faggot :^)
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>>153766992

For those who missed it.
Behold, Daiz in all his faggot glory

http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/153221567/#153224140
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/153235649
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/153521030/#153544838
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>>153767035
>put yourself into the shoes of a casual watcher
>kami-sama
They would see this line and would be already confused as fuck because there is no word kami in english. And for completely casual viewer who doesn't even know what kanji is and how they work this "Kami - 神(god), 髪(hair)" is no less confusing as well.

I'll repeat myself again. You won't find a single book that leaves translatable words completely untranslated. You won't find a single subtitled movie that does that. You can google articles and blogs about translations and every single one of them will say it's a big no-no. It's purely product of shitty/lazy anime fan subbing.
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>>153767237
i think a large part of it is them taking extremely rudimentary jap phases that even the most EOP knows by heart, and then rewriting them completely unlike any translation anyone has ever seen.

theres hardly ever been a sub that is this easy for such a large number of people to criticize.
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>>153767232
You're really bending over backwards to defend a shitty translation.
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>itadakimasu
>through the dark lord
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>>153767237
nice reposted comment from nyaa
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>>153767328
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>>153767359
Not exactly. gg definitely fully trollsubbed some shows they disliked, like Hidan no Aria. It's just that everyone already hated that garbage so the subs didn't ruin anything.
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>>153767370
Barrett was not overlocalization. He sounded like Mr. T even in the Japanese version.
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>>153767393
You got to be squiddin' me
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>>153753661
>>153763978
>>153755205

>EOPs don't even know english
I'm dying
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>>153767151
He's clearly shitposting or the landwhale CR editor herself.

>"Bill Cosby shooopdoopbabloop"
>Guys it's a synonym for throwing like a girl just watch the next scene!
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>>153767392

>translation

c'mon now, don't tell me you can't into translation != localization?

You do realize the kids that said the line said something that has no legible english counter part, right? They are speaking in slang that you hear kids speak in. Try translating "that's totally whack, yo" in nip and say it to a native speaker and watch them give you a funny look.
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>>153767479

>bill cosby

>baseball

well the only correlation i can put between those is they both have to do with pills that affect the body...
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>>153758889
If you don't know that, then you don't get the joke, your loss. This is how English works. Let them figure it out on their own
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>>153767463
People seem to have enjoyed Hidan no Aria AA well enough though. What changed?
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>>153767493
Oh fucking kek you really got me bro!
It fails as a localization as well.
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>>153767390
EOPs who think they're translation masters just because they've watched a few anime and nitpick about liberties have always been a blight on quality translations. Like you had people criticizing Soul Nomad's translation because they played it with their Japanese audio and it sounded like it didn't match to them. Seriously? Everything does that. It's called localization.

I guarantee you when the show gets dubbed we'll see some lines like that because guess what, that's what dubs do.
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>>153767556
I can't tell you because I never watched AA. The general consensus when Hidan no Aria aired was that it was one of the most derivative and retared anime to ever be made.
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>>153767584

you're absolutely right, because directly translating "that's toally whack, yo" will yield gibberish.

Which is why they have 最低 instead. It's a localization for "that sucks". Which can be liberally translated back to something like "that's totally whack, yo" if you wanted to have some comedic effort for the subs.
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>>153759767
Nah, the akuma one could be done in English and be decent, the baka one needed a note. Puns and jokes can usually be translated if you're a little creative and not memeing, kanji puns and cultural references pretty much always get notes.
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>>153767656
Not defending that particular show but derivative is a silly criticism considering Japanese culture is all about taking what already exists and refining it to perfection.
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>>153767656
AA didn't have all that much in common with Hidan no Aria, in fact it was a decent show. I recommend giving it a try one day if you ever find yourself with too much time to spare.
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>>153767671
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>>153767767
Perhaps, but Hidan no Aria was worse than all that came before it. It just took the most superficial aspects of better anime.
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>>153767493
Zattsu totarii wakku, yo!
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>>153767384
>They would see this line and would be already confused as fuck because there is no word kami in english
They wouldn't be anywhere near as confused with the note "kami can mean God or Hair" right there

>this "Kami - 神(god), 髪(hair)" is no less confusing as well.
I wasn't defending this

>I'll repeat myself again. You won't find a single book that leaves translatable words completely untranslated. You won't find a single subtitled movie that does that. You can google articles and blogs about translations and every single one of them will say it's a big no-no. It's purely product of shitty/lazy anime fan subbing.
Defending yourself with ye olden day rules of translating is hilarious. You realize they've been adding translation notes recently into LN and manga volumes translations right?
>You won't find a single book that leaves translatable words completely untranslated.
Wait you clearly haven't read any
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>>153767650
>quality translation
This is not a quality translation. Criticizing complete script rewrites is not nitpicking.

>dub
Who fucking cares?
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>>153767556
>enjoying hidan no aria

I don't believe you.
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>>153758889
So Herks is the horse and Daiz ia the deer?
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>>153767730
Can you read English? You started getting into semantics about translation and localization. I said it fails as a localization. I never even advocated for a direct translation.
>Throw a homer lady
is totally meaningless in English unless you pull an explanation out of your ass, which you seem very keen of doing.

How autistic are you?
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>>153767879
Do people spell his name wrong so that he can't search the archives for his name and whine about it on Twitter?
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>>153767827

sucku sucku mai bigu rongu cocku faggetu

i'm reading all these in ding dong bannu voice, btw
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>>153767834
If the script was shit to begin with, which it was, then it deserves to be rewritten. FACT.

A good translator can identify shitty scripts and offer enhancements at the drop of a hat.
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>>153767906

>getting into semantics about translation and localization


this thread is full of people who are arguing semantics over those exact same things and its fucking hilarious. It's like they have a mastery of the language or something and have a right to argue over it.
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>>153767958
I don't have the strength to bite the bait anymore sorry
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>>153767833
>You realize they've been adding translation notes recently into LN and manga volumes translations right?
Are you fucking retarded? We are talking about leaving words untranslated or in romaji, for example "Thanks Kami-sama". Not about adding TL notes in general. Here's the original post for retards with short memory like you - >>153765439. And no, you won't be able to provide a singleexample of licensed manga or LN that does that shit (i.e. leaves translatable words in romaji).
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>>153767996
Calling a post bait just because you disagree with it means that you have zero counterargument but want to offer one last retort just to feel like you've won.
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>>153753661
I haven't watched the latest episode yet, but I would assume it's Gabriel again isn't it?
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>>153768035

i think he was just pointing out that someone's opinion being touted as fact was enough to respond that it wasn't worth taking the bait over.
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>>153767977
If these phrases even made any fucking sense in the first place nobody would be arguing. What the fuck does throw a homer mean? It's completely meaningless and doesn't make sense, it doesn't have any place in an English translation as it's not English.
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>>153768035
>If the script was shit to begin with, which it was, then it deserves to be rewritten. FACT.
This is clearly a bait post.
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>>153768074

Gee, seeing a lot of semantics in that post there buddy, you better slow down before you hurt yourself in the butt
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Thank God that CR made all these improvements. As an American, I have no clue what "try not to get in the way" means, but "I'll scratch your itch" makes perfect sense.
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>>153768113
I'd much prefer it if you'd just fuck off and kill yourself, desu senpai.
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>>153768113
Not an argument
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Wew.
http://sakura-sasakura.com/2017/02/21/others-50/
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>>153768132

>as an american

shouldn't you wait on the dub then?
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>>153768072
>>153768095
Why try so hard to make excuses when the fact is that you just can't come up with a good response?
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>>153768172
Here's an actual response: Your opinion isn't fact.
Kill yourself.
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This whole situation is reminding me of the "Gamergate creeps" incident in Prison School.
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>>153768172

>facts

maybe if he didn't say his opinion was fact we wouldn't rail on him for doing so lol
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>>153768172
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>>153768208
Heh, you really think spouting memes qualifies as an actual response? Yikes.
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>>153768113
fucking daiz i swear to god
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>>153768254
You just can't stop acting retarded. SAD!
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Daiz is in the other thread now.
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>>153768292
he is over here >>153767671
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>>153768308
You forgot to tip your fedora.
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>>153768332

i love you herkz
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Words don't mean anything anyway, so why get this angry if some subs use different ones? Just change their meaning and you'll get exactly what you want.
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>>153768308
When did I say I was dropping it? Dumb fucking faggot.
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>>153768332
Oh great, now you're bringing politics into the mix. This all could have been avoided if you'd just posted an actual argument in the first place.
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>>153768370

sorry, i don't play vidya
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>>153768369
>Daiz and derp commander in the same thread
This cancer is too much for me, I'm out.
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>>153759231
>He can't read more than one line at a time
Wooah ... so this is ... the power of American education?
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>>153768392

you really should though, i mean the subs get you so butthurt you might have to double up your autism meds dosage.
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>>153768402
Not an argument
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>>153768308
>posts like this are unironically allowed to be posted on /a/ now

Was it moots fault?
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>>153768021
>And no, you won't be able to provide a singleexample of licensed manga or LN that does that shit (i.e. leaves translatable words in romaji).
Hiten Mitsurugi

too easy
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>>153753661
Throwing a homer is pitching a ball that ended up being a homer. jfc
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>>153768483
Can you please stop sucking cocks for literally 10 seconds and type with proper grammar? How did you get past the /a/ entrance exam?
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Kek.
>jeez lady, throw a homer, will you?

Garbage application of a fairly common phrase. It's confusing as fuck. Anybody that wants to defend this bullshit should fuck off, it completely fails even as an extremely liberal localization.
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>>153754745
They were playing catch. There weren't any bases to be ran home to.
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>>153768490

>he wasn't here for Guilty Crown threads
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>>153768494
Don't forget Sharingan, Rasengan, Chidori, etc.
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>>153768369
>Daiz won't even comment about subs since Hella shit all over the meme cartel
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Getting paid to translate anime and manga seems to be the fast food of translation work. Think about it.
>The product delivered is objectively low quality
>The people involved are typically hyper defensive about their "profession" because they know they're shitty at what they do and that's why they're stuck doing it, but don't want to admit it
>The people involved think they deserve more than they do
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>>153768637
Kamehameha, hadoken, getsuga tenshou
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>>153768685
>>The product delivered is objectively low quality
That's not even true. It's consistently higher quality than actual fansubs.

If anything, fansubs are like if you waited a day to eat and then decided to go to Carl's Jr. instead of a steakhouse.
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>>153768620
Well it's a play on calling something a homerun, akin to saying that something will be a slam dunk.

It's retarded though. Like mind boggling retarded, why would the translator think that was a good idea?
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>>153768752
Kunai with Chain
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>>153768790
It's called typing proper English on an English hand-knitting image board you fucking imbred spic.
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>>153768768
Except that's objectively wrong when talking about this show.
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>>153768790

>lol y would i waste time writing normally xD

>>>/MAL/
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>>153768494
>>153768637
>>153768752
>names of moves/styles/etc
How can you be so fucking retarded? Do you really not understand the difference between japanese names and "arigato gozaimas, Kami-sama"? You're probably the bigger imbecile than Gabriel's CR translator.
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>>153768768
And the subs for GD are akin to not eating for a day and then going to a steakhouse where they use Oreos and Fruit Loops as seasoning.
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>>153768876
Really, faggot? I've looked at the fansubs and they have somehow done a worse job despite taking multiple days to be completed.
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>>153768369
>tripfag has an inflated view of himself

Color me surprised.
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>>153768872

pretty sure this is a cantonese comic book web page, not sure what you're on about

also where did inbred spic come from? Have you never heard the term de facto before?

are you still in high school?

or did you never graduate?
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>>153768948
That actually sounds delicious. If that was meant to be an insult you are very bad at comparisons.
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>>153768676
These subs are pretty hard to defend beyond the snarky remarks on nyaa comments he posts on twitter.
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>>153768930

>xD

>>>reddit
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>>153768955
I wish we could just ban known tripfriends. Diaz is such a giant retard.
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>>153768936
So because it proved you wrong it's suddenly an exception. Fascinating.
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>>153768936
Hella rude
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>>153769010
>that sounds delicious
You have some pretty strong autism
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>>153768950
You're a fucking idiot. The good fansubs came out the same day this week and are objectively better. Go back to Nyaa, no ones buying your bullshit here.
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>>153768768
>That's not even true. It's consistently higher quality than actual fansubs.
The only fansub groups left are groups like Commie who seem to just use Google translate and then open a random Know Your Meme page and slap whatever turns up in the middle of a handful of sentences.

On rare occasions when people who actually give a shit get together and sub something, it always turns out better than anything CR/Netflix/Funi/Daisuki push out.
Hell, an N1 certified anon was involved in subbing the first Kizu movie. Compare that version to Commie's version and then try to stop yourself from mailing a box of cat shit to Herkz.
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>>153769037
"Tripfriend" is a contradiction in terms.
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>>153769072
>have a refined palate
>lol you have autism bro
Go back to Twitter, Herkz.
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>>153769111
And?
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>>153769037
>tripfriends
they are called tripfaggots, you fucking faggot
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>>153768752
Kegare, Yokai, Yuki-onna
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>>153769111
It's called a misnomer. No need to thank me.
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>>153769153
>refined palate
The only thing missing here is maple syrup and then I would know for sure you have severe autism
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>>153769224
>shit my poorly thought out insult didn't work the first time
>better repeat it again!
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>>153769203
Yuki-onna actually gets translated as snow woman in Demi-chan.
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>>153769301
Yea it depends on the translator, same with Yokai and Kegare. Which is why I used them as they've been used both ways.
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>>153769313
>Kill yourself.
Geez, and a Leafy meme now? You really have mastered failing hard, haven't you?
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>shit show gets shit subs
And then all was right with the world.
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>>153769346
>Le fail!
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>>153759657
So nyaa mods still have that retarded avatar nonsense going.
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So when are we getting to the point in the future where all fantasy anime will have their dialogue rewritten as Old English because it "Fits the atmosphere and setting more" despite speaking modern Japanese. I think FFXIV does this.
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>>153769393
>he admits it
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>>153769047
No, imbecile, those words are almost never translated (unless it's fairy tales), they are fucking names of moves/styles/weapons/etc. The main fucking difference is that they usually don't even have TL notes because translation (or actually origin) is not needed.
But we are talking about "kami" here, a completely common generic word. Save the planet from your stupidity and kill yourself.
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>>153769444
Whatever helps you feel better anon.
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>>153769437
>I think FFXIV does this

I think the original dialogue is like this too, so it kind of makes sense.
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>>153769437
>I think FFXIV does this.
And that game has made S-E an absurdly large amount of money, so I hope your post wasn't intended to paint it as a bad idea.
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>>153769544
>Better pretend I won the argument so I can leave with some dignity!
Yeah, you even fail at that.
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>>153769559
It would have done fine without Koji Fox inserting MUST NEEDS and things he read in A Game of Thrones into every sentence.
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>>153769559
I think the gameplay is the reason why it's making money.
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>>153769670
You keep responding because you're desperate to cover up your embarrassment at having been so thoroughly owned.
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>>153769692
I think the brand name is why it's making money.
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>>153769738
>owned!!! xDD
Jesus dude
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>>153769746
Bad Final Fantasy games don't sell well.
It's making money because it's a masterpiece in all regards.
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>>153769746
It's because it's actually a good game. But this isn't the place for that discussion.
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>>153769692 XV is a bit of a mess, though it is pretty fun for the most part. >>153769746 is also right
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>>153769776
>Jesus dude
No, just one of His soldiers.
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>>153769790
XIII sold well. You are objectively wrong. XV is mediocrity incarnate.

>>153769814
It's really not.
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>>153769830
>No, just one of Ribbits soldiers
FTFY
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>>153769841
We're talking about XIV so way to look like an idiot.
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>>153769841
>>153769821
Literally nobody is talking about XV. The fuck are you guys smoking?
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>>153769536
>God
>a completely common generic word
Religious discrimination as they are not talking to your God but to THE Kami-sama
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>>153769863
Why are you so butthurt about this?
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>>153754745
>>153768783
To THROW a homerun is a bad thing. You realize that, right? The pitcher is playing for the "defending" team on the field. The batter is from the opposing team.
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>>153769876
DMT, dog
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>>153769536
It's a word being used in a pun. Being put in italics for that one instance with a tl note is an acceptable course. You've already been proven wrong anon.
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>>153769946
You just keep going. Like a fountain of butthurt.
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>>153769967
No, the ONLY way it makes sense is to assume it's incorporating that phrase in reference to throwing the ball better

Like I said, it's retarded.
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>>153769876
Bath salts.
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>>153770020
>so butthurt, lul!
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>>153770014
>You've already been proven wrong
Keep repeating it, retard, and maybe it will become true. Wait, it won't.
It's not acceptable in any form. No one translates puns by putting romaji in script except for few shitty fansub groups. And you will never be able to provide a counter-example.
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>>153755433
If I was a fansubber, my shitty sense of humor would compel me to use this translation a couple times in unrelated series.
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>>153770081
I love it. You can't stop crying so every post I make gets a free response.
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>>153770329
Have another friend
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>>153770329
Not that guy but you can have my (You) too.
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>>153770449
Thank you.
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>>153770510
Thank you as well. You're all wonderful, I'd give you a kiss on the cheek if I could.
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>>153770559
Fuckin faggot desu
...just one, though?
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>>153753661
wow... progressive anime thread
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>>153769346
>a Leafy meme
How new are you? People have been telling each other to kill themselves on here for over a decade, fuck off and kill yourself retard.
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>>153764625
You're assuming CR gives even a single shit and isn't fine with how this is proceeding.

I want them gone entirely.
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>Daiz shitposted so hard the he broke image uploads
Looks like the list needs another update.
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>>153771074
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>>153768936
They are entirely translatable though.
And it's not like there aren't subs that translate actual character names too.
One Piece did this with several characters, like "Dogstorm" and "Catviper".
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>>153771101
>Daiz getting shit on again
Why does this never get old?
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>>153767650
What does being a "translation master" have anything do with what >>153767390 said?
> taking extremely rudimentary jap phases that even the most EOP knows by heart, and then rewriting them completely unlike any translation anyone has ever seen.
I don't even need to be N5 in JLPT, let alone N1, to know that something is clearly wrong when itadakimasu is translated into the garbage we all saw.

The hilarious part though, is always the go-to retort from so-called "translators" towards these criticisms. The idea that complaining is forbidden because we don't know Japanese, which supposedly means we're too retarded to even have common sense.

Might as well rephrase it to
>Don't understand Japanese?
>Fuck off you dumbs shits. You don't know what you're talking about.
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>>153768166
>my reply made it
>these nips are more autistic than us
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>>153768166
TRANSLATE IT WEEBS!
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>>153773785
Most are shitting on it, one faggot (probably a shill) is pretending it's a liberal translation that captures the feel of Vigne being a demon.
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>>153768166
Gonna need someone to translatw the translated posts the blogger translated from english to japanese and translate the comments the japanese wrote about the translation the translations were from.
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>>153773887
It's probably one of the cartel translators.
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>>153774013
I'm sure it is, or one of those really faggy Japs who hangs out with those faggy SJW English teachers and got infected with their terminal retardation.
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>>153755496
>Hadena
Jesus Christ.
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>>153755496
There is a difference between Commie subs and Crunchyroll?
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>>153768166
Wew, I recognize my post in there, sugoi
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>>153764330
For dumbfucks like you, shitty American puns are probably better. Not for me.
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>>153753661
This guy is probably the same faggot that translated stella no mahou with his retarded made up shit.
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>>153767156
Wanting accurate translation is making us a weeaboo?
All retarded people like you should learn the meaning of this word before using it.
PS. Everyone who are using the this word ale mentally ill, I confirmed it multiple times.
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What does throw a homer mean? Is that even an actual real phrase? Literally never seen or heard it before the sub.
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>>153767384
Do you want to know why? Because it's targeted to fuckin mainstream. People who are loving mainstream media are usually dumb as fuck. Now find the connection.
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>>153767384
Are you actually that much retarded? Almost all (translated) books which I read had tl notes aka footage notes. I wouldn't buy a translated book without notes anyway, because I want to know what exactly original author mean, and I want to know culture of source country.
Only complete idiots are saying that tl notes are a bad thing.
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>>153768132
Eat your burgers and gtfo.
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>>153774995
It means "I want to pretend I'm a writer, but I don't actually know English all that well."
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>>153764796
I didn't get the "Oh, so beastly." variant.

Because that would have required spanish skills on my part?
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>>153768166
>Even the Japanese are saying that "itadakimasu" has nothing to do with giving thanks to God/the gods and is all to do with giving thanks to the real people who made the food.
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>>153775585
I've already explained this before, it's just a ritualistic expression. I'm someone sneezes and I say "Bless you" it doesn't make me a devout Catholic.
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>>153775615
>Actual Japanese people are saying the joke is boring/dumb/wrong
>People on /a/ are still saying it's correct

Wew, lads.
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>>153775585
>ラバラバダ
It's the one and only D-o double G
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>>153764796
>you need to find the visual joke funny.
so what if I'm fucking blind then I won't get the joke because the subs don't tell me anything either.
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All these hot opinions tickle me pink
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>Daiz breaks the upload server so /a/nons can't post screenshots of shit subs
He can't keep getting away with this.
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>>153774995
whats weird is why do they insist of making the girls say an extremely obscure baseball line if it doesnt make sense in character for them to even say something like that? isnt their argument for these meme translation that "it sounds more natural" when its completely out of character?
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>>153775639
Daiz and Herkz are not /a/.
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>>153775885
>Daiz and Herkz are not people
FTFY
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>>153775901
Good catch, thanks.
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>>153753661
The crunchyroll localizer doesn't know Japanese, he also barely knows English.

Fuck, I really need to start learning kanji and practicing more on my listening. Being able to bypass subs at the time like this and understand more than half of what's being said would be great.
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