Watching FMA for the first time and holy fuck

>>153740486
That's a cute dog you posted.
Euthenize it.

>>153740486
You're like, a decade behind.

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>>153740486
I see you're watching 2003. Good.

Watch brotherhood after, though

>>153742053
Brotherhood makes more sense, but its dry and boring. Not worth wasting 64 episodes on if youve already seem fma.

>>153742094
You're right. You should just read the manga.

>>153742053
I loved FMA when I watched it like 10 years ago. Then I tred watching brotherhood about 5 years later, but I dropped after like or so eps. The pacing completely threw me off I felt that they skipped a lot of stuff and rushed through the beginning.

Maybe it was wrong for me to expect the same story, and watching brotherhood instead rewatching FMA. Should I give it another try?

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>>153742124
There's really no point in watching the first 11 episodes of Brotherhood if you've already seen FMA. It's just telling the same story, but not as well.

The pace slows down after they get to the point where the original anime diverged. It's definitely worth watching, but don't expect it to be same as the FMA you already know. They tone is much lighter, and the story becomes less focused on the brothers as more side characters are introduced. It's good, just different.

>>153742124
Brotherhood is equally as good

>>153742223
>>153742243
It makes sense. I'll try to get pass the first 11 eps and enjoy the ride.

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>>153740486
Aww, what a cute doggy. I wanna pet her.

>>153740486
Roy commited a genocide and this is still what people get stuck over

>>153740486
Good doggie.

>>153742243
>equally good

The story and characterization is leaps and bounds above 2003.

>>153743570
Wr-wrong!!!!
Brotherhood is for self inserting losers who want to see the protag always being right and getting a cheesy happy ending
2003 is for those who can accept grim reality

>>153743598
You're brain damaged if you need to oversimplify it to that degree. The mechanics of the world, the existence of the homunculi, the nature of human transmutation, the overwhelmingly tragic nature of Hohenheim, the way that new ideas are constantly introduced while maintaining complete internal consistency, the extremely satisfying answer to how Ed and Al get their bodies back -- do I need to go on? It's one of the most impressively well-written stories and fleshed out worlds I've ever seen in fiction. 2003 pales in comparison.

>>153743304
Yeah but those were fantasy Jews.

>>153740486
I've only read the manga years ago, and I don't get people's fuss over this. To be honest, this scene was pretty mediocre.

>>153743248
Why is 2003 Scar such a stud?

Manga>either anime
dub>sub

>>153743667
This, actually

>>153743598
>the grim reality of suddenly ending up in nazi germany
the grim-est.

>>153745156
2003 Scar was a bishified travesty. Hated how they turned him into fujo bait.

So what is exactly is the difference between both anime and the manga? I've only seen Brotherhood.

>>153745473
It's better than the Incredible Hulk from Brotherhood

If the guy didn't kill that thing it would've been allright. It was a happy kid and a happy dog who liked each other, now it would be a happy thing that enjoys life a lot.

>>153743304
War is hell. So it's ok.

>>153745639
Didn't it asked to be killed?

>>153745654
what? I don't think so, a previous one did for sure though.

>>153745564
He's not even on the same level as Sloth let alone Alex. Are you retarded?

>>153745678
I meant how they made him look. Muscles upon muscles upon muscles. He looked like Broly.

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>>153745678
>Sloth

>>153745675
Oh yeah, the girl's mom did. It said "Where's daddy" or something, it's been a while since I watched.

>>153745723
Oh fuck, it was the mom, that's right.
The guy was fucking retarded, are there no hobos to bribe into a circle with booze? Was the empire that well run that all the hobos went to forced labor camps?

>>153740486
You are seeing the best version of FMA.

Read the manga after that, still good but not as mature as FMA 2003.

>>153743248
Scar was based on FMA 2003.

He's retarded on Brotherhood

>>153745497
2003 was before the manga was completed
Brotherhood is an adaptation of the manga.

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So why exactly was Lust so underused? Gluttony was revived, why not her?

>>153745744
Shock value

>>153743667
>Give up his alchemy and an arm

Wow, what a great exchange.

>>153745839
Resell value. You sell your arm, then buy it back but with markup.

>>153745823
>reviving blade nails
>over Father's portable vacuum of space

>>153745823
The Homucunlus were a lot better in FMA 2003, in Brotherhood, they're just pawns of a shitty antagonist ( dante was shitty though but not as much as Father ).

Only greed was good in both version.

>>153745863
One more soldier at his side though. She can slice through hoards of soldiers.

>>153745857
Are you seriously implying economics on a show with fucking magic anon?

>>153742094
>its dry and boring
imagine having this much shit taste

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>>153745877
feels bad Lyra died. She was such an optimist with her studies.

Also they made good use of the other minor characters like that librarian girl.

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>>153745904
Well it is an anime that one of the main themes is bartering one for another. I mean look at this motherfucker. He got 1 and a half shotas for a portion of their supposed mother.

I don't get why people thought this was a big deal.Girl gets turned into dog, so what?

>>153745926
Also, FMA 2003 was written with the author, which after reaction from happy ending fags, changed his manga to be more nekketsu.

>>153745967
It made me cry

>>153745967
2003 had a bit of buildup with the relationship between the boys and Nina, so it all came as a shock, same with the death of Hugh

>>153745964
He didn't lose much because in the end, everyone is happy. I don't really hate happy ending but here it feels too cheesy after all that.

>>153746008
Not really sure of that but then again it took a long time for her manga to finish.

>>153745967
In FMA 2003, they made us more attached to Nina, better interaction.

In brotherhood, it is just rushed for more SHONEN.

>>153746008
I thought a woman wrote it

>>153746028
Well that's true, but I prefer that ending over Shamballa. They shipped Rose and Ed hard in the old one.

>>153746051
Yes, I just say "his" by mistake.

In my defense, she has hidden her gender before because she was afraid of poor selling because sexism.

>>153746056
It was too much seinen in the anime.

Damn rose was raped, FMA in anime is close to berserk.

I admit it, I prefer brotherhood because it's less dark.

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>She will never marry her king

>>153746141
I liked 2003 because it had consistency in the post-manga darkness and its use of its characters. Besides I wouldn't say it was that close to Berserk. Rose was raped offscreen. There wasn't even one of those flashing flashback images.

>>153740486
no one can be this new

>>153746196
>FMA ver 1 was 14 years ago

>>153745967
It was more about her father being a psycho and her being killed.
It's actually genius, people like children and dogs, want to set up a villain and make him hated? He killed both in one.

It always bothered me how their prosthetics worked.
Ok, they have magic that depends on drawings and shit.
But how do the robot limbs fucking move?

>>153746344
connecting the nerves I think.

>>153746449
You think nerves are copper wires distributing 120v for you smartphone and assorted limbs?

>>153742094
I don't get the love for brotherhood, the villain sucked because you can't sympathize with an inhuman "piece" of god.

Dante on the other hand, made sense.

>>153746530
it's automail """technology""" it ain't gonna explain shit

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2003 was absolute garbage. It started off great, but holy fuck did it go full retard with trying so hard to be "gritty".

Brotherhood blows it out of the water. Especially with characters and the ending.

>>153746735
Brotherhood is for people who can't handle seinen

>>153746852
I can handle seinen just fine. Too bad 2003 is a shitty try hard seinen.

>>153745823
>>153745877

Homunculi is are different. In 2003 they're more like the fantasy trope homunculi where they are artificial humans made from alchemy. Because they're all made from failed human transmutations of people who were once human, they have great character development.

In Brotherhood and the manga they're more or less parasitic, living philosopher stones that hold fragments of their creators "flaws" which by the end of the series means nothing. The difference is they need host bodies to walk around in, otherwise they're just rocks (with the exception of Envy, who's "host" seems to be artificial)

They have no human background besides being embodiments of different personality traits pertaining to their namesake sin. The issue is their creator is An inhuman fragment of god bound to life by Van Hohenhiem's blood using a philosopher stone composite as a body which means that this concept is spoiled because their creator is not only inhuman but also seemingly omniscient.

In brotherhood every homonculus except Greed sucks ass. They try to give you a tear jerk with Envy but it comes off as retarded because they're trying to get an entity who is made from a single personality trait to admit that he is envious of humanity, it doesn't nearly have the weight of the "Daddy loves his bastard kids more than me!" stuff 2003 envy had.

King Bradley is ok, though there is inconsistency in the sense where he is seemingly still in control and the introduction of the homonculus into his body only empowered him.

>>153746735
It wasn't the best, but for an anime only ending, it wasn't bad

>>153745791
>retarded
>literally the same character

What?

>>153745823
It really baffles me that I see this question asked so frequently. Lust was burned to death by Mustang and had her stone visibly turn into dust. Gluttony was beaten badly, but still fully whole. Father absorbed his stone back into his body and was able to remake him as result.

He can't remake Lust if her core was fully destroyed.

Opinions regarding both anime seem divided. But we can all agree that rewrite is the best OP, right?

>>153747235
It's probably because in 2003 Scar's brother sacrificed his penis to bring his big-tittied waifu back and Kimblee was Kimblee.

I forget exactly what happened in brotherhood but his brother doesn't go off the deep end it was all some misunderstanding or some shit.

Essentially 2003 Scar's backstory is already better because he's lost more. Brotherhood dampens it so much just so Scar can have a change of character and kick Bradley's ass with his creation tattoo because he can finally accept alchemy isn't evil.

That fight was hype as shit but it just doesn't feel like the same alchemy hating Scar.

>>153747357
Let it all out was the best ED

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So will she ever get that Mustang?

>>153747464
Ew no that back is fucked.

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>>153747464
According to the author, the only reason why they aren't married is because of professionalism. Other than that they are already pretty much an unofficial couple.

>>153747567
That back is perfect

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>>153747464
Yes.

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>>153747682
>>153747567

>>153743667
I tried watching 03 and Brotherhood simultaneously and this is pretty much my reasoning for dropping 03 while sticking with Brotherhood.
Also outside of a handful of scenes (like >>153742223) Brotherhood looks a lot better

>>153747464
>>153749457
>>153749495
Based Riza, her and Mustang are my favourite characters both on their own and together. Do you get to see different sides of them in 2003 or is the manga the place to go?

>>153746008
>FMA 2003 was written with the author
I think the Arakawa just said "Yeah, I'm not gonna be done this shit for another 6~ years, you guys just go ahead and make shit up once you run out of source material." I don't think she had any actual input on the anime's storyline other than making sure it wasn't totally bastardizing her work.

>>153747464
Isn't it literally do or die for her? There practically official in every way except for government at this point

>>153747642
Something about this looks weird, like either the faces or the bodies seem a little off

>>153749879
the mouths are a little too curly I agree

>>153749725
In 03 I dont Riza was ever in Ishval but most of its the same.
They get a better ending in 03 but Brotherhood fleshes them out

I like FMA, but most of its "woah shit" moments are just shock value.

>girl gets merged with dog by father
>glasses guy gets killed out of nowhere
>it's raining :(
>we turned our mom's soul into a fleshy blob oh no
>the fuhrer was a bad guy oh no!
>wtf we WWII now

There's more I'm sure, but it's been 3 years since I last saw FMA or FMA:B

>>153750679
Edgy

>>153750522
Cheers, it's a shame I can't get into Ed and Al that much though

>>153749862
Mustang becomes Fuhrer
Hawkeye leaves military
There. They can get married.

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>>153743667
This, completely. Glad to see people with reason.
I watched ’03 first, and Brotherhood was still much better, even with the nostalgia glasses.

Darker and more flawed characters does not make a series automatically better.

Same reason Game of Thrones isn’t as good as Lord of the Rings.

>>153740486
Good on you for watching the patrician version of FMA.

>>153750679
Now this is shitposting

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>>153745497
Manga was still being written while FMA ’03 was airing. It caught up to the manga at one point and just developed its own canon after that point.
It’s basically glorified fan-fiction past that point.

For example, FMA ’03 ends with Ed and Hohenheim going to pre-Nazi Germany to stop Hitler.

>>153749798
this.

>>153745967
weak b8

>>153746141
>FMA in anime is close to berserk.
I... don't think you've read Berserk. The Eclipse alone is beyond anything FMA does.

>>153746605
Villains don't have to be sympathetic to be good, man. Take Sauron, for instance.
FMA is not a subversion of the genre. It's a classic example of everything done well, and straightforward.

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>infighting about different adaptations
Side mentality is shit, look at the sad state of /v/ and even studio cancer in this board. Stop this shit. 2003 was alright, but shunning the superior adaptation, Brotherhood, is a travesty. They're both fine.

On another note, did you like where the series ended? I wanted to see some Ed and Al adventures after the ending.

>>153751512
I don't really see Hawkeye leaving a military, she needs be in uniform and ready to glock her boï at all times.

Technically they could just be together and keep it on the DL, or not get into anything and make people uncomfortable with all the sexual tension

>>153745473
I dislike the drastic change too, but not every bishounen guy is for fujos. Not every chick is a fujo, is what I mean.

>>153752729
I was so sure at the time that the last chapter was implying that we'd get an Al spinoff where he goes on adventures with Mei in Xing. The fact that we never got to see the place bothered me a little, I guess, and maybe I couldn't accept it was over.


Also I wanted Greed to live.

>>153752729
I was always bewildered how manly and built Ed was when he took off his red coat

It made him look smaller and childish

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>>153752729
Ed and Winry have the best shonen romance I've ever seen. It just gradually happens in the background. No love triangles, and no rivals which would have been really ease to do since both of them were apart majority of the series.

>>153753990
I don't mind it. The author could have easily milked the shit out of the franchise, but she chose not to. Al's journey and Roy's to rise up to the top are left to our imagination.

>>153754034
This was after the little timeskip. He was shorter than Winry before it.

>>153754130
the coat still had that effect

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>>153749677
>Brotherhood looks a lot better
Really? Bones took the ugly blockish quality of Arakawa's art and dialed it up to eleven. The characters often looked blobish and their hair looked stiff. Digital coloring had come a long way in the time between the two series, but 03 had better character designs imo.

>>153754142
Well, yeah.

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I think we can all at least agree that Brotherhood Bradley>2003 Bradley.

Man was a fucking machine. I can only imagine how fucked everybody would have been if he was in his prime.

ITT: The worst kind of immature normalfags casuals back from 2001

Some things never changes, at least it isn't evafags but might very well be.

>>153750679
You can make anything sound bad by saying it like this, watch.
>Two junkies try to sell drugs with a black guy
>Oh no my son took my tv to sell it for drugs while I was watching it, I'd better also get addicted to drugs
>My boyfriend hasn't been back for like two days, since I can function by myself I need to suck dick for money right now.
>Lets use electro shock therapy on an elderly woman with a stimulant addiction
>Gee my arm is black do you think its infected?
That was Requiem For a Dream

>>153754300
Yeah.
Also he felt more like a real character in Brotherhood. I feel the same way about Kimblee.

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Everything I liked in 2003 FMA wasn't in Brotherwood.
Rose rape? No.
Rose at all like a character? No.
Lust, aka the best girl? Died too soon.
Homunculus made from failed human transmutations? No, just some dude made them for fun.
Scar sacrifice? No, he lives happy and well.

And I dislike all those pile of shit side characters, like those chinese siblings.

But yes, there are some things I didn't like in FMA 2003, like Dante, when they went to real world before WWII and the movie.

Don't waste your time and don't watch the movie. But it is my favorite shonen.

>>153754435
requiem for a dream was shit tho, ass to ass is the only good part

>>153745383
>nazi germany
nothing wrong with this

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>>153740486
If FMA spooks you, then you've got a long way to go.

>>153754641
Chinese siblings were a fucking disaster.

Also, why was greed so fucking bad at fighting? His skin's invulnerable but he only transforms his hands? Must be fucking retarded.

>>153746987
You missed one of the biggest parts of Brotherhood's narrative, burt. The Homunculi are not just beings made of a single personality trait, the entire show keeps making this point over and over again. The Homunculi are just as much human as humans, they're just being used by Father in a flawed plan. Truth at the end even tells Father how ridiculous he is for trying to cut his sinful emotions from himself, like it would actually work in the end.

From the moment they start the series with "i want my mother back" and do weird magic, you should have been prepared

>>153754641
>King Bradley on vacation beach outfit in 2003 version
>nothing on Brotherhood
2003 wins

Well done Brotherhood, well done...

HOWEVER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRwgiOjSjQI

>>153745744
He was a seriously fucked up individual who obviously was not sane

>>153746008
>his

>>153756460
>You missed the biggest part of brotherhoods narrative, they're just as human as everyone else.

It's the old artificial being gaining a conscious cliche, I wasn't impressed.

Of course they're capable of being more than a personality born of Father, this is shown with Greed. However the entire thing with Envy was annoying because the entire realization of his character was that he was envious of humanity, which makes sense because he's made of a personality trait father discarded. It's like because envy is ironically prideful and arrogant they somehow proposed it was a twist that he was actually envious.

Perhaps it was meant to be ironic considering his power, but building it up as something significant was completely useless since everyone already saw it coming.

My point was that they were essentially downgraded from 2003 FMA because they were all just parasitic philosopher stone minions, rather than the more interesting idea that they were the past mistakes of multiple core characters in the series come back to haunt them through the largest mistake of the man who started the entire ordeal.

Which leads me to another thing, Brotherhood is just an Adam and Eve fuck up, with a evil omniscient snake tricking an innocent man. Less interesting than the Lover's concept.

>>153756925
Well, it is worked for me since i'm russian. Not sure that it is the same for others.

>>153742223
My recommendation for first timers is 2003 then Brotherhood.

But when I rewatch FMA, I watch the first 10 of 2003 and then switch to Brotherhood.

Brotherhood was limited in space, and since in 2009 many Japanese still remembered the 2003-2004 show, it needed to speed up the early character development.

All in all, 2003 is beautiful but flawed while Brotherhood is rushed but satisfying. A combination of the two is 10/10

>>153754158
I do like how they aged Winry and Ed though

In 2003, even though 5 years pass, they look only slightly older.
I agree that Brotherhood had "more anime"like character designs. Then again, 2003 was a long time ago

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03 went full retard towards the end.

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Wrath>Greed>Lust>Pride>Envy>Gluttony>Sloth

OP2>OP1>OP5>OP4>OP3

Greed should've lived also.

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>>153757540
So did brotherhood.

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>>153740486

Even without going into plot specifics, 2003 is better for the art style alone. Watching Brotherhood made me sick.

>>153754300
No other villain in anime gives me the same vibes of "Get the fuck out of here Bradley is coming for your ass" as he does.

Also his theme is perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDmEObzbOaA

>>153755829
You have to go back.

>>153756925
Dude, if you're going for that way, at least post less overrated songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8cqE0kJBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8FdBaNLC8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od3U3lkb48I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqBIQP5MjP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zGqN8turcA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMUJ0v_7ENA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPzMTfeXJnk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kOwo0vKaRs

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>>153740486
I know how you feel, I only just got around to watching all of Gurren Lagann a few weeks ago and holy fuck, it's more hype than 20 Brazilian soccer announcers screaming commentary on a bare knuckle battle royale cage fight between Bruce Lee, Tyson, Ali, Jesus, and Jackie Chan holding a baby.

DO THE IMPOSSIBLE
SEE THE INVISIBLE
ROW!ROW!
FIGHTTHEPOWAH!

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>>153757360
This. 2003 version is another anime with an incomplete story from the beginning, but with an awesome patch that despite diverging from the original, resulted in a incredible story nevertheless.

>>153760026
And a movie with nazis. You can't get more cool than that.

>>153760507
Nah sorry, in that point i agree with Brotherhoodfags. That movie wasn't good.
Yeah, we all laughed with pro-nazis Alfonse and Hughes and gypsy Scar, but i was perfectly fine without that movie happening.

Also, the Wrath-Gluttony fight was THE SHIT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRoNBaAP4mM

>>153740486
the first 10 episodes are really great. From there on it's absolute shit, enjoy it while you can.

>>153761105
I think that series goes completely off the rails as soon as they do the whole WW2 thing.

>>153754435
Only shock value in Requiem for me would be the "ASS TO ASS" scene and the amputation. FMA is a cartoony shounen manga and randomly some over the top stuff happens. It's out of place.

But like I said, I really do like FMA and Brotherhood, I just don't get "muh feels" over the dog-girl chimera.

>>153740486
I know certain anons are going to hate me for it, but there were certain aspects of that 2003 FMA did better than FMA:B. Rewrite was one of the best openings of the franchise, and I'm surprised FMA:B couldn't top it.

The majority of the Japanese VAs weren't replaced in FMA. In Brotherhood, barring Ed and Al, almost all the characters had a different VA and they didn't sound at all close to the original, including Roy.

The Homunculi were also better developed in the 2003 version. Envy and Lust especially had understandable character motivations and interesting character development. That doesn't happen in Brotherhood.

However, Dante especially was a really great villain. I liked her more than Father, because her grudge towards Hohenheim was far more personal and realistic. You can even tell that her transition to where is now slowly corrupted her instead of just being born malicious.

Unlike Father, Dante isn't apathetic towards humanity, but a person that turned into a high-functioning sociopath, forcing herself to be manipulative, misanthropic, and vindictive. This all leads her having a god-complex, and the audience can tell how her quest for immortality has changed her for the worse.

>>153759832
Somebody should edit FMA:B and replace every mediocre/out of place song with something from FMA2003.

Its true 2003 goes full retard towards the end,but manga and brotherhood goes even more retard
>suddenly magic of friendship
>boss fight that ends with a maka valor punch tier conclusion
>fighting zombies

And lets not forget Brotherhood fucks up the tone of the series pretty bad

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Right or left?

>>153762114
Although I think Rewrite is great, the elevator into the city and that fight scene are amazing, but I think the first OP of brotherhood does a better job of capturing the series more.

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>>153761105
Am I the only one who wanted Ed to get back to his world with a friend who was a veteran of the Somme in tow? Just imagine, he's finding out all about this horrible shit that went down and all the people that died as a result of it, and then he just laughs, gets a thousand yard stare and says,
>Let me tell you
>about the fucking war
>their faces when
This strictly the 2003 adaption of course. Seriously though, apparently the pursuit of physics over faggoty-ass alchemy leads to millions of pointless deaths and some fucking horrifying/cool weapons

>>153762315
>Left Ed barely has a chin and looks younger than his real age.
>Right Ed has a square jaw and a noticeable brow ridge.
When you compare it side-by-side, Brotherhood Ed really looks like a different person. He looks more mature and masculine.

>>153762315
Right would take the cake if it weren't for Ed's arm not having that shimmer anymore.

nina-chan ):

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Despite people calling it too cheesy and happy, I liked the Brotherhood/manga ending a hell of a lot more than I did the 2003 version. It felt fulfilling and satisfying.

>>153762315
Left always. Fight me.

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>>153761105
>>153762425
>Remembers Conqueror of Shamballa
That movie still triggers me. Especially at the end, where Ed, along with his brother, leaves Winry behind. They didn't even get to say goodbye. And the Kids OVA outright confirms that Ed and Al never returns to their world and heavily implies that Ed married the Winry of the real world based on the appearance of his grandchildren.

>>153762840
And the contrary is also good, and that's why i prefer 2003 ending.
It wasn't fullfilling nor completely satisfying. You didn't fully understand all that happened. It was more real.

>>153752210
Game of thrones is low-fantasy fanfiction, with nothing epic about it, of course it's worse.

>>153763025
> You didn't fully understand all that happened. It was more real.
That was ruined with the OVAs, though. As this anon already posted >>153762960 We know Ed and Al stays in the real world. At some point Ed's adventures becomes a popular film franchise, Ed is now over a century old, lives in an apartment alone, was married and it's implied to be the Winry of the world he's living in, and has three great grandchildren that looks like himself, his brother, and Winry.

>>153759841
I suggest you to watch the movie version of the final fight once you finish the serie, you will reach new levels of hype unknown to man.

>>153763459
If I ever rewatch the series, I'll always watch the show up to where Lagan-hen starts, then watch the movie. The movie does the ending so much better.

>>153743667
I thought you were discussing 2003 at first. Brotherhood is a mess with too many unnecessary characters. And nothing about Brotherhood was tragic; that's what has Brotherhoodfags so enthused about Brotherhood's ending as well as Brotherood as a whole. The nature of human transmutation is nothing it's a throwaway in Brotherhood with no barring as anything more than a plot device for the brothers to initially end up with screwed up bodies.

>mechanics of the world
Really aren't that great. Original, I guess, in terms of being a change from ki but "energy from tectonic activity" is a good deal less interesting than, "an energy field created by all living things, it surrounds us, it penetrates us, it binds the galaxy together." So is magic performed by burning through human souls which is what 2003 had.

>>153764490
Which characters would you say were unnecessary in Brotherhood?

>>153764554
The chimera pair, everything about Lior, Lyra, and most of the stuff about Xing, especially Mai and her panda. Fans of Brotherood seem to think that simply introducing another segment of the world, making it more expansive without developing it more in depth, counts as good world building. 2003 worked with the smaller number of character it already had.

A lil late to the party, but welcome.

>>153762579
I remember '03 had some things happen while Ed was still 12 instead of 15, that's why he looks more babyish in some of those shots.

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>>153756925
This is a very good post, anon.

And yeah, I think Brotherhood is the far superior series, but I will ALWAYS assert that FMA '03 had superior music, if only because of Brothers.

Although if we count OPs and EDs Brotherhood might win...

>>153760026
I think people would have liked it more if the Dante fight was better.

I still think Dante was a better villain than father.

03 Op 4>Br Op 1> Br Op 1> 03 Op 2> Br Op 3> 03 Op 1>Br Op 5> 03 Op 1>Br Op2 >03 Op 3
All excellent though.

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>>153765305
Wel,, Dante was supposed to be equal or better than Hohenheim in terms of alchemy, so he couldn't do much. And she send him to the Shadow Realm very soon after

But hey, we still got Ed vs Envy

>>153762114

The main problem with father is his inhuman nature. I actually didn't know quite what he was until looking for an outside source. They don't explicitly tell you he's a fragment of God, which would have explained how he just randomly knew all about alchemy in an era where it was first being learned.

Even if you learn this, he's still weak because our only reason for understanding why he wants to be a more perfect being is because he's unable to live outside of his glass.

Of course he later develops the means to do this so that aspect of him doesn't matter.

You just can't relate to something that seemingly developed from nothing, he's completely alien and thus the humanized flaws they keep referring to in the series don't capture that vibe.

>>153765475
Still better, Envy had a more tangible reason to hate Ed and pick on him specifically

Also way more impact having him legitimately die for a bit.
The way Brotherhood got around the issue of getting their bodies back was retarded.

>>153766050
Are you talking about the "muh door" thing?

>>153742053
FMA 2003 < FMA Brotherhood
FMA 2003 + conqueror of shambala + hagaren kids > FMA Brotherhood

>>153766427
But the movies were terrible.

>>153766171
Muh door is the right answer, you've solved human transmission

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>>153766427
>FMA 2003 > FMA Brotherhood
>FMA 2003 + conqueror of shambala + hagaren kids < FMA Brotherhood

ftfy

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>>153762960
>Ed and Al return home to their world
>Presumably do shit
>Leave and never return
Haven't seen the movies btw
For what purpose?

If you didn't watch this anime with your brother, you're a shit onii-chan.

>>153754300
Bradley as Wrath was fucking terrifying.

>avoids an exploding train
>kills a tank with a sword and grenade
>slaughters top-end soldiers
>is stabbed through the chest by somebody using another person as camoflage just to land a hit on him
>beats the shit out of Greed with Ling in control
>STILL ALMOST KILLS SCAR
>after falling several stories
>only loses in the end because pure random chance blinded him for a split second

>>153775924
The greed fight doesn't make sense though.

Greed just made his hands invulnerable instead of his whole body. Literally retarded.

>>153775965
Bradley still managed to beat the first Greed even when he was basically fully transformed anyway.

>>153775996
Yes how.

>>153776010
Because he's King motherfucking Bradley.

>>153754300
Why was he wrath in brotherhood/in the manga? Out of all homunculi he embodies wrath the least.

>>153776071
Wrath doesn't have to mean mean raging anger and hatred and screaming, anon.

Bradley's wrath is cold, calculated, relentless, unstoppable, tranquil.

>>153776172
While you are right, I think every other homunculus does a better and more obvious job of showing what sin they embody. Because all others are so intentionally obvious, Wrath feels like the odd one out.

Well maybe Pride too, but let's be honest Pride sucks.

I think Brotherhood is a 10/10 anime, but FMA is "just" a 9/10 manga. It's just too simple most of the time (paneling, page layout and sequence progression) and really does not use the medium's advantages to bring its full potential. Towards the end there were some attempts here and there to add flavour, but it was too little and too late. It's still a great manga, just could be better, especially since it had monthly publication.

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Was going through my favourite chapter by chance and

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>>153776446

>>153742124
>fmab
>skipped
you do realize that if anything, the 2003 series added extra stuff, right?

>>153745898
>slicing through redshirts
>not swallowing them instantly with a blackhole
Plebian taste
Gluttony is by far the strongest homunculus. His only drawback is that he is too retarded to actually use his power
Just like Sloth, except at least Sloth is physically strong and not just some fat blob

>>153743598

You are going to cut yourself with that edge anon-kun.

>>153740486
Best moment

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>>153745230
sup vic

>>153765317

Damn, good taste