Imagine how boring and generic this would be

Would make it more harem-ish

>>153729752
I wouldn't be surprised if Iris was an addition suggested by the publisher
She's so out of place with every other heroine and goes against the nature of the series

They would've saved fantasy Australia.

>>153729850
Iris? I don't think so. The author loves the "too good for this world" girls that Kazuma has no business to ever be in a party with.

>>153729850
It's a shame Nips love her so much. If they didn't, DEEN might give her minimal screen time.

Why did Kazuma never ask YunYun to join the party? She could probably carry them through most starter area level stuff since she seems to know some useful spells already. Not to mention shes alone.

>>153729850
>>She's so out of place with every other heroine and goes against the nature of the series
That's the joke, retard.

>“Recruiting party member. Must be gentle and willing to patiently listen to boring chatter. Must not mock people with weird names. Must be able to stay together even on days with no quests. Must be a frontline fighter. Preferably close to my age. I’m a 13-year-old arch wizard—“

>“Recruiting party member. Hopefully, someone who is fine when the conversation gets stalled. Someone who wouldn’t keep a distance even if I visit every day. Someone who won’t get angry even if our eyes do not meet. No restrictions on job and age.”

How could you stand to hang out with this pathetic loser? She's only good for her body, and that's what the succubus service is for.

The irony is that Kazuma actually did get into a party with them, with Megumin as the leader at that.

>>153730017
They already pulled that joke with Eris
It worked because she didn't linger and served as a foil for Aqua

The focus should remain on the dysfunctional girls you can't find in literally every other fantasy LN

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>significantly less explosions

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>>153730264
>Megumin upset that lightning magic > explosion

>>153729752
At least at this point in the anime we would be at the Demon King.

>>153730261
Normal LN do have dysfunctional girls, but they are the ones who don't stay on.

>>153730017
>joke
No, that's the point. There's no joke to be made with Iris, she doesn't even get bullied or put in embarrasing scenarios or weirded out by the team.

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>>153729752
> Calling eris boring and generic
feelsbadman

>>153730347
I don't care if there padded!!!

>>153730347
She is boring and generic.

Now Chris on the other hand, what a fun girl!

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>calling an over-leveled party "boring" even if it gets the job done so you can collect the payout

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>>153729752

>>153730347
She's "I like her because she's nice" the character
Even Chris is largely carried by Kazuma in terms of humor, she just doesn't bring much to the table

>>153730465
People liked the scenes of Kazuma and Chris going thieving, right?

>>153730574
Only because of Kazuma.

>>153730342
The joke is that while Kazuma is pretty partial to her like he is with Eris, Iris is more or less unable to see what a scumbag he is, unlike Eris who knows and tolerates Kazuma.

>>153730431
I can understand Eris and Yunyun, but can Iris fight?

>>153730620
But that's not funny, Iris just acts like she's dealing with moderately quirky friends instead of a barely funcitonal party that only works because their leader is smart and willing to resort to any dirty trick in order to keep them in line.

>>153730620
Kazuma is not a scum when it comes to how he treats Iris. He's outright protective of her.

>>153730638
Two words: Mary Sue.

>>153730418
>She is boring and generic.
The author just needs to pad out her character more.

>>153730638
>Can Iris fight?
She's a dragon slayer. Case closed. Exactly what >>153730923 said.

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>>153730923
>traveling to another kingdom as her bodguards
monsters appear
>oh boy, I wonder what kind of insane strategy will Kazuma think of to survive this
>lol nevermind, Iris can one-shot everything

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>>153730954
>pad
Subtle. (Not really.)

>>153731071
Kazuma just goes on a gambling spree which does even more than 1shot dragons.
The sob broke the back of that gambling kingdom.

>>153730638
She's actually crazy powerful. It's her royal blood and magic training

>>153731187
Like you didn't see it coming when the guy with godly luck travelled to Fantasy Vegas. At least I had no expectations regarding that so I couldn't be dsappointed.
Then again, it would have been better if Kazuma expected to cheese his way to victory only to be kicked out of the casino and have to hatch another plan.

>>153731358
They tried, but he had backups. That's why he waited until he got introduced to the casino by the prince.

>>153729985
He probably doesn't want to deal with more shit, he's got his hands full with his crew and having Yunyun and Meg fight all the time... forget about it.

Is there any good site for the LN's?
-Thanks

>>153731140
thats one super cute swimsuit.

>>153731588
LNs? I don't know what you're talking about pal, all we have are fanfiction stories.

Imagine a threesome with Eris and Megumin.

>>153731681
Imagine a threesome with Eris and Chris

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>>153731588
There are no translations unfortunately. All we have is some fanfiction that's good enough to almost pass for the real thing.

>>153731681
>>153731715
Imagine a foursome with Eris, Megumin and Chris.

>>153731729
Damn I thought the author had made a side story of this scenario. thanks anyway

So, this Iris chick is a mary sue huh? Does she at least have a good personality? (not a bitch)

I've seen images from a spin off where she appears to party with Megumin, Yunyun, and some crazy looking lesbian priest. I guess she would need to one-shot everything to succeed with that party.

fucking fund it

>>153731994
She's very much Kazuma's perfect little adopted sister of a princess.

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Kill jester.

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>>153731994

She is the cutest

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>>153732045

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I have a question.

When iris turn into the thief girl, does she keeps her memories or she becomes an entire differente character ?

Because, why isnt the thief girl padded ?

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Considering Kazuma's personality.

Every time Eris (since she's on land Chris) tries to get him to do something, he would steal her underwear. Eventually she breaks down, and spends most of her time in the corner crying. Probably convinced she's failing at her duty as a god.

He'd convince Yun Yun he was her friend, and have her running around doing anything he wanted. Probably wearing a made uniform, and whenever she questions anything, he'd say something along the lines of I thought we were friends.

I have no clue how he would handle Iris in this scheme.

Right now he's blessed to be with his dysfunctional crew. They keep him moving despite his desire not to do so.

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Quick question, does Kazuma ever find out that it's Aqua's fault for most of that worlds problems? And if so, is his reaction amusing?

>>153732230
Can't Kazuma just choke her while she's sleeping?

>>153731140
Why is Iris so perfect

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>>153732320

From the beginning, Aqua is always fucking it, is really funny in this arc

>>153729752
Switch out Iris and it'd be a decent combo.

>>153732320
Hes already wondering if Aqua is actually the bad guy as of most recent LN volume.

>>153732367

Kazuma pls

Iris being a mary sue makes her character fine in small doses because she absolutely doesn't NEED to be as much of a massive cunt as Kazuma to win fights

Kazuma nearly bankrupting a nation made volume 10 way better than it had any right being.

Would this be OC be a good Konosuba girl? Presumably a glasses girl with horrible eyesight.

>>>/tg/51826496
>>>/tg/51827225

>>153729752

Eh, it would still be a better watch than following that other guy from Japan with the cursed sword and two ugly annoying bitches.

You want to talk typical harem trash, right there you go. Hell, even his party set up is worse than Kazuma's. Swordmaster, warrior, and a thief. No magic user, no healer. And you just know he's carrying those cunts, letting them leech all their levels off his kills.

>>153731994
She's interesting when Kazuma is corrupting her. Otherwise she's kind, but boring.

>>153732707

Is he corrupting her on purpose with a endgame plan in mind, or is she just picking up "bad" habits from being around him.

>>153732834
Kazuma doesn't have an endgame, but he was deliberately teaching "his cute imouto" dirty tricks because that's what he's good at.

>>153732653
It's hilarious to me that that thread just took off rather than being filled with gb2/a/ or whatever approximation. I never really thought about how Konosuba was basically just one big /tg/ copypasta.

>>153732882

It's probably for the best, I'm an anime only fag currently, but I've already seen that corrupt nobles exist in that world. A ruler that only does things fair and square will end up dethroned or dead in that kind of world.

>>153730912
Kazuma tries not to act like scum around her, but he can't help himself, and Iris innocently believes in him, which leads to her getting corrupted, little by little.

>>153733062
Alderp is a special circumstance. He generally gets away with doing what he wants because there's no evidence.

>>153733062
Alderps literally being watched by a kings agent and going to get put in prison as soon as they get proof on him being a shit.

>>153732320
I haven't read the LN, can you tell me more about how everything is Aqua's fault.

>>153733301
Beldia and Vanir were sent to Axel to investigate a "holy light" (Aqua) that appeared there.
If it wasn't for Aqua the noob city wouldn't have many problems. Even though the Destroyer wasn't aqua's fault It was Maxwell's fault

>>153729752
Imagine how laid he would be.

>>153733301
she brought a bunch of useless NEETs to that world, kazuma is one of the few that did something important

>>153731140
Why Iris has long hair but Chris dosn't?

>>153732834

She just picks up bad habits from a bad crowd, it'd be pretty fun if it goes all the way and she ends up joining the Axis cult or something.

>>153732320
Most of the world's problems are because Eris is incompetent. If the world had been left to just Eris, everyone probably would have died by now. Aqua, despite being an idiot, has introduced people who can survive the harsh conditions of fantasy Australia and actually thrive.

>>153734087
*Eris.

>>153730574
Just making sure, that hasn't happened in the anime right? Wouldn't want to have missed it

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>>153732320
>>153734262
Which is it?

I don't care who wins the Kuzumabowl as long as it's not Iris.

>>153734610
Aqua is causing problems then shitposting on /a/ and blaming Eris for them.

>>153733301
Many of the greatest problems in the world are caused by Aqua sending losers with overpowered items there unrestricted and without supervision.

>>153734673
Even the current demon lord is hinted at being a Japanese if old books and fairy tales are anything to go by.

>>153734673
Not the fauna though.
And Aqua wouldn't have been sending hiki-NEETs if there hadn't been serious problems beforehand.

Why do people call Kazuma scum? He's never actually done anything wrong. He's just less than polite to people who act like fucking idiots or try to fuck him over. He's definitely one of the better people in the world he ended up in, seeing how he actually bothered to defend the place instead of letting it get destroyed while saving his own skin. He may have the personality of an asshole, but otherwise he's a decent person. He's never actually done anything wrong to someone else that was actually harmful to them in a meaningful way.

>>153734796
It's a joke.
In-universe it's because of all the sexual harassment he's known for.

>>153734796
First impressions are everything and the thing he got famouse for was stealing a womans panties.

>>153734673
At least she doesn't violate the NAP (usually)

>>153734778
I mean, if the current major problem is bigger than the last one, and you're still relying on the same idea that may have brought the big problem in the first place, then you are indeed a fucking retard.

Inb4 the demon lord is really from earth and became this way because after he conquered whatever task Aqua gave to him, she pissed him off by doing something stupid or being ungrateful or not caring about it.

>>153735053
It's apparently an autist who tried to do a solo run.

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So considering the apparent bad rep the axis cult guys have, does that mean the priest dude in episode 1 just gave Aqua the money because he was probably scared of her? "Shit, it's an Axis guys who thinks she's their goddess, better shake her off my back by getting on her good".

Also, what are the chance heaven was actually happy to get rid of Aqua?

>>153731358
>>153731464
Well, we learned that Kazuma was amazing at Yugioh

>>153734796

Some of his famous exploits around town is using the skill steal to steal women's underwear and he boasts about being an advocate of true gender equality and will dropkick a woman without hesitation if they want to pick a fight.

It's hard to imagine someone like that getting a positive reception, that being said they all don't seem to mind him that much.

>>153735296
>he boasts about being an advocate of true gender equality and will dropkick a woman without hesitation if they want to pick a fight
This is fine, most women in that world are more than able of kicking ass.

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>>153735284
>Also, what are the chance heaven was actually happy to get rid of Aqua?

>>153734087
To make it less obvious? They might have idols of Eris.

>>153732653
Well, there is Kazuma's childhood friend that NTRed him.

And Eris did promise the talking armor that she would find a female to wear him.

Could it be Karma if Kazuma's childhood friend died from attending Kazuma's funeral since Kazuma looked like he lived in a small rural town that made it necessary to take the bus to go buy his Visual Novel.

And once she dies, she gets a chance to reincarnate as well?

Because only Aqua knows why Kazuma became a NEET while Darkness and Megumin don't know what event caused Kazuma to develop this kind of personality.

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>>153735368
>Eris as an idol
hnnnnnnngggggg

>>153735284
Nah, he most likely pitied her.

>>153734087
long hair would get in the way for a thief.
Alternatively maybe her breasts aren't the only thing fake, maybe she uses hair extensions.

>>153734610
Let me explain it like this. Eris's world is so bad that she had to actually get Aqua to help. It was already so bad that it was bleeding people who wanted to be reborn in that world. Living there is so bad that people don't celebrate birthdays, they celebrate it as a year they didn't die, despite actually having resurrection magic.

>>153735951
>Eris's world is so bad that she had to actually get Aqua to help.
[citation needed]

Also Aqua just further ruined it, I don't get your point.

>>153729752

Who is the blonde?

>>153736085
The nation's princess.

>>153736085
Iris, the Mary Sue.

>>153734610
Eris fucked up fantasy Australia to the extent that heaven mandated the sending of Japanese to stabalize it
This only made it worse, so they allowed Aqua's accompaniment of a reincarnator presumably as a last-ditch effort

It seems to be working so far considering the amount of demon generals they've killed in such a short amount of time

>>153736085
Grapehead. Kazuma's "imouto".

>>153736239
Nice revisionist arc, Axisposter.

Here's what really happened.
> Eris plays with kiddies first playdough world
> Aqua shows her all these new " cool tricks"
> Disaster
> Aqua tries to fix it
> Greater disaster
> Heaven demotes Aqua to afterlife hotel clerk
> She abuses her authority to fuck up FA even more
> Arrive Kazuma
> Aquachu, I choose you!
> "Blessings upon you Kazuma here's your damegami no refunds bye!"

>>153735296
>he boasts about being an advocate of true gender equality and will dropkick a woman without hesitation if they want to pick a fight
And? Talk shit, get hit. If you pick a fight you get to reap the consequences, status won't save you. You should have the awareness to know whether or not picking a fight will end with you getting the shit kicked out of you. Or bring a competent fighter who can back you up. It's your fault if you recklessly decide to fight someone you are hopelessly outmatched by, you don't get out just because you happen to be weak for some specific reason. Besides, even a woman can get fit enough and learn enough to compete, and in fantasy Australia it seems most have. At the end of the day a punch is a punch and if you know how to punch decently you don't have to bench a metric ton to hurt someone. It's like, getting hit in the face with a rubber bat would hurt less than getting hit in the face with a metal bat, but it would still fucking hurt. If you don't take the time to be decently fit and learn how to throw a punch in a non-shit way, you don't get to complain when you suck. A woman can't be as strong as a man, but that doesn't mean she can't learn how to fight and becoming fit enough that your punches hurt. Martial Arts isn't magic, but there is a calculated technique to being able to cut your losses and amplify your strength. If you are too lazy to learn how to defend yourself, somehow, then you are at fault when you pick fights you can't win. Besides weapons are a thing, if you can't hit hard enough, bring a club to level the playing field.

>>153736796
I agree with you over this, but it doesn't change how that Kazuma didn't endear himself through paying lip service and putting on an act.

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>>153729752
>Kazuma fucked up and dies
>Eris won't revive him because the world's law and shit
>Bad ending

>>153736901
Yeah, guess. Still, it'd make more sense if he was just not known as a nice guy, instead of being known as someone who was particularly bad. Nobody else there is a saint themselves, besides a few nice people who are mostly polite everyone is a little bit fucked.

I heard that Iris didn't appear in web novel. Doesn't that mean the author just want to mirror Darkness like what she did with Aqua and Megumin

>>153736938
>bad
yeah right. Kazuma wouldn't mind hanging out and chill with Eris and the other deities.

>>153738516
Kazum cried when Eris was about to send him back the first time. He likes his time as a productive member of society.

>>153729752
>Yunyun not at an angle like the others
Fucking moron can't stop fucking it all up.

>>153736938
Now wait just a second.
>Eris is in his team
Therefore Aqua should be the god he meets in the After life.
Aqua as we all know gives zero shits and will send him back anyway.
If for some reason he does meet Meet Eris she's already shown to be perfectly happy to break rules. She sneaks down to earth. She revives him. I doubt she would leave him hanging if he wanted to keep living

>>153737058
The adventurers in the initial town like him mostly because of the rewards they get for defeating bosses along the 4 retards.

>>153729752
I'd pick Eris over Aqua everyday

>>153737058
Thing is he doesn't hide that he's a bit fucked like everyone else does.

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>>153735443
>>153735368
I want an idol of Eris-sama.

>>153731187
>>153731358
I was hoping for a Kaiji-esque cuhrazy mind games. Instead we get a very minimal gambling and Kazuma's trickery to the prince is very lame.

>>153731994
She's very bitch at the start. It's quite surprising how quickly her personality change. It's quite jarring really.

I don't mind Iris, Kazuma need someone that treat him nicely, and a noble/royal that would abuse their position for him. But they really made her too strong.

>>153729985
If I remember right he does multiple times in the LN

>>153741390
Yeah and she always reject it because she doesn't want to be in the group of her "rival"

>>153730305
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the crimson magic academy, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on the demon king army, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in guerilla warfare and I’m the top magician in the entire crimson magic clan. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across Belzerg and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in a single way, and that’s just with my explosion magic. Not only am I extensively trained in explosion magic, but I have access to none of the arsenal of the crimson magic clan and I won't use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, boobs.

>>153741390
Wow, what a dumbass, she would be better than that dumb cutting board with an explosion fetish.

>>153734796
Can't wait for the inevitable true scum isekai POV.

>>153734778
>>153735951
>>153736045
>>153736239
Aqua probably fucked it up in he first place bey sending people from earth who wanted to be reincarnated in a fantasy world there before there was actual problems

>>153734778
>>153734673
There was a demon lord before and he wasn't as over powered like it suggested but then this dumb goddos keep sending lonely hiki neets one after another along with over powered cheats till one day one of them beat the old one claimed the "demon lord" title for himself because muh, making a new "demon lord" and making him more over powered than the previous one.
Kek. I wouldn't be surprised if it had happened continuously like a cycle every time there's someone close enough to victory that the demon lord title just get passed on to the next guy that got corrupted.

My moneys on Katsuragi being the demon lord then kazuma beating him and being a hiki demon lord putting a stop to to the cycle.

>>153729752
>The world is still crazy and retarded
>Yunyun still socially awkward as fuck
>Kuzuma is still kuzuma
>Iris reacting naivelly to everything
>Eris playing the straight man

>Imagine how boring and generic this would be
Only people unable to use more than 10 brain cells at the same time would think that OP

>>153730923
>I don't know what a mary sue is

>>153731994
>this Iris chick is a mary sue huh
Nope otherwise she would have handled all the fantasy vegas arc by herself while keeping the spotlight and winning the kazumabowl.

She is overpowered but not a mary sue.

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>>153743378
The definition of Mary Sue is vague enough you can make it about anyone you want unless they're a complete loser.

At which point they instead are a self insert.

I don't think Iris was supposed to be that strong
LN 10 wasn't in the WB so they added it just to make Iris popular

>>153735951
>Eris's world
The world isn't Eris's, retard. She just happens to be the most popular deity.

>Trashzuma corrupt and harass sexually these innocent girl every night
It won't be as good as the original but it seems pretty fun

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>>153733301
In addition to what the other anons have said, the Demon King army might possibly be so pissed off in the first place because the Axis cult goes out of its way to spread bad rumors about them.

>>153743646
>HELP THE DEMON KING ARMY BURNED OUR HOUSE, KILLED MY WIFE, RAPED MY CHILDREN AND DESTROYED OUR LIVES
>t. /a/xis cultist.

>>153743646
>THE DEMON KING LOVES LITTLE GIRLS AND ABUSES THEM
>t. /axis cultist

>>153744025
>>153743844
Heil Aqua, bitches.


Only the dumbest of idiots will not worship Aqua after watching episode 3

>>153729850
She's a garbage low tier "goddess". She's fucking shit. She shouldn't even get any screentime seriously any second they bother animating her is a complete waste and her mere existence drags the series down as a whole.

>>153744877
I liked Iris
Except on LN 10 when she one shot a dragon. She wasn't supposed to be that strong, it feels forced

>>153743451
Since Eris is in charge of fantasy Australia, yes. It is her world.
FA is what happens when a 5 year old girl makes a crayon drawing of a happy farmer family with a smiling sun and smiling carrots and smiling cabbage and everyone is happy. Then when daddy gives her a world to manage she makes all those things, gives them life, sends them out, and they immediately start killing each other.

>>153743144
That has been bothering me the most. Kazuma overheard a history class where Iris learned, that the royal family always breeds with the hero who defeats the demon king for good genes.
It kinda implies this demon king thing has been around for a while. And seeing the demon king army be 50% goofing around, it wouldn't surprise me, if they'd be just a rather normal kingdom.

>>153745271
So Iris will breed with Kazuma?

>>153745375
Lol no, she will breed with Megumin

>>153745204
> Be cute little goddess
> Make happy smiling cabbage
> Rival vegetable tribes burn it to the ground
> Aqua-senpaiiiiiii
> "they're just jealous of that smile! ;)"
> Remove smile
> cabbage becomes fanatic militants
> Storm the artichoke heartland
> Claim it for first cabbage reich
> Aqua-senpaiiiiiiiii
> "They won't claim land if they can fly! ;)"
> Give cabbage wings
> Cabbage air force begins bombing farms and villages, killing thousands
> Aqua-senpaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Repeat this process for the thousands of creatures that occupy fantasy australia. Plus don't forget that many Aqua heroes likely brought or created monsters of their own, and after the birth of demons anything goes.

pardon me
who is iris and how is she related to eris

>>153745477
She is the princess of the kingdom
Probably will show up on S3

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>>153730574
Of course. But note that we care because the sidekick carried the banter, and even the fight. The whole thing wouldn't be half as interesting without him around.

>>153736537
Is there anything in the novels to back that up?

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>>153729752

<Competent priest with no alcohol addiction

<Actual Arch Wizard with a multitude of spells

<Great warrior who can solo most shit

It would be boring as shit and the demon king would be dead within a week

also the harem level would be off the chart

I like Aqua as she has the same hobby as me. Collecting weird rocks.

>>153743646
Demon King confirmed to be freedom hating faggot.

Freedom of speech nigger, ever heard of it? Based Axis Cultist fighting to preserve our freedom.

>>153729752
>They all want kazuma's dick
Kazuma can have foursome every fucking night.

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Hyperdimension Lich Wizgear spinoff when?

Also, sneak preview of Wiz trying out this "karaoke" introduced by Kazuma:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3VEkz6_ZkY

>>153732288
Dude, kazuma is not that scummy

Kazumas antics might still save it. he was always the linchpin of the show anyway. without him there it would fall apart.

>>153729752
It would be a lot better with Yunyun replacing Megumin.

>>153747077
SAO of the year!

>>153735409
That would be amazing

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>>153729752

As long as Kazuma's character stayed in tact, it would at least be watchable, but nowhere near as good as the original.

>>153749244
She sounds boring. Her VA should've use the cat's voice.

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Wats the realtionship between megumin and coca cola ?

the weird name ?

EXPROSHON

>>153750670
Cola + Mentos = Mini Explosion.

>>153729752
>DLCpartymembers.jpg

>>153749688
He's literally done all these things already.

KAZUMA KAZUMA

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>>153752607
クズマです。

>>153752907
Why do they look so cute in this pic.

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>>153753627
The LN artist is pretty good, albeit rather bland and the occasional anatomical derp.
The anime character designer deserves a lot of credit for giving them lots more personality; e.g. Aqua actually looks like a doofus, Kazuma kind of a creep, etc.

>Kazuma
>16 years old
>165 cm

Why do the girls let a fucking manlet stick around?

>>153753802
All their immigrants are Japanese, they're probably assimilated and short themselves by now. Also medieval ages people were shorter

>>153753802
>t. 171 cm "high" manlet

>>153754024
>t. 171.1 cm "high manlet

Who should voice Iris?

>>153754091
Yui Ogura?

>>153751866
Thats not true, He hasn't taken advantage of yunyun in that way.

>>153730443
Go back to sleep, Rem

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>>153754370
はーい！

>>153729850
Kazuma has been through a lot of shit
At the very least I think he earned a cute imouto

>>153745567
his whole thing is that he needs someone else to drag him out to do just about anything

>>153754727
>>Kazuma has been through a lot of shit
Half of which was his own fault.

>>153754836
Does that really matter? Let us not speak of blame, but of reparations.

>>153750714
She hates anything that emulates an explosion though right? Kazuma had her in tears when he finally made a proper one.

>>153755053
Wow that's mighty axis of you son. Praise Aqua!

>>153756059
She's very egoistical sort of girl.

>Get mad at Chris for trying to get close to Kazuma.
>Get jealous at Iris for the same reason.
>Get mad at Kazuma for trying to replicate her power.

No wonder she got along with Kazuma. At least she treat her party (family) nicely.

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Imagine how gross and sweaty Eris must be. Sitting around in the same heavy dress all day.

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>>153756069
Amen.

>>153752907
>aqua needs to forcibly hold up Kazuma hand
>he grabs Megumins hand tightly

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>>153756766
>interlocking fingers
Lewd
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>>153756938

>>153756971
Notice that they aren't handholding anywhere there? Someone post that Aqua-Kazuma frequent handholding pic.

>>153757314
Literally the first pic

>>153757332
Nah, thats wrist grabbing.

>>153757332
Are you blind

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>Kazuma wants to fug Darkness because she has a hot body, but is completely unattracted to her as a person
>Kazuma likes Iris because the idea of having a cute imouto (which he got from watching anime) sounds great
>Kazuma thinks he loves Eris because she's like every other "2D waifu" he saw in his animes
>Kazuma just thinks of Aqua as a dumb sister and everyone else simply as friends
>Kazuma has genuine feelings for Megumin, but is scared of real relationships, which is why he spills spaghetti around her and nobody else

Is this an accurate assessment?

>>153758607
Maybe. I feel that for the relationship to progress, he need to have areal heart to heart talk with the girls, especially concerning his past and the fact that he's a person from another world.

Pretty weird that being a world traveller doesn't seem to be common knowledge. Since there's supposed to be a lot of them.

>>153758607
Couldn't have done it better myself.

>>153758967
I don't see why his not being from that world is relevant? He only interacts with them on the terms of the setting he's in.

>>153758607
Does a sister watch a brother's back as he masturbates because that's what Aqua did.

>Megumin fags are still in denial

>>153759144
Aqua only says she heard him making rustling noises and ignored him

Can someone post the Smug Aqua face when she sees Kazuma'a dong?

>>153759091
I assume that it would be dishonest to have a relationship when one party didn't disclose their past.

>>153759144
Giving your friend space and privacy to masturbate is more of a bro thing to do.

>>153759091
Not that anon, but the fact that he isn't from that world is actually brought up a lot. They know he isn't a local, but they've even begun to doubt his explanation that he is "from another country." Since they've never heard of a place called Japan, and it's clear that he doesn't know a lot about how the world works in general. It's one thing to not know how the country they are in (Belzerg) works, it's another when he is confused about how the world in general is like.

They've tried to get him to spill the beans about it a few times. But he had always shifted the subject, or gave them half-truths. The person he's spoken the most to about Japan would probably be Iris, but that's mostly just because he wanted to share some fun stories with her.

>>153759173
She said that to make it obvious to him what she meant while still being vague as a courtesy. She pretty clearly states a few times that she knew he was masturbating.

>>153758607
>Kazuma likes Iris because the idea of having a cute imouto (which he got from watching anime) sounds great
I wouldn't say that's the only thing. It's also because they get along with each other, and the fact that she likes him despite all his evident flaws.

The other girls do like him for that reason, but they aren't upfront about it. Megumin bounced around the issue for several volumes before getting the nerve to explain the parts she liked about him. Iris just straight up told him she enjoyed the dumb and scummy things he does.

And we still don't know if his feelings for Megumin are genuine. He pretty clearly isn't sure about it at all from his narrations. But you're on point with the spaghetti part.

>>153759229
I don't see why. You don't need to know every little thing about someone to be in a relationship with them. Not telling someone you're half Irish isn't exactly going to be a deal breaker 99% of the time.
>>153759253
Specifically hiding his past might make it more relevant, but at the end of the day simply stating that his background is not from that world is probably enough, a full "heart to heart" really isn't important since he has no goals of going back and doesn't miss it so it's not a huge issue.

>>153729752
I don't have to imagine. It's airing this season.

Aqua is seriously the most interesting character in this anime.

>>153758607
>Kazuma thinks he loves Eris because she's like every other "2D waifu" he saw in his animes

I think people get hung up on him using the term "main heroine" too much. Rather than it being because she's a "2D waifu" it's more like he enjoys how normal she is.

Pretty much every other girl he's met in that world are eccentric in one way or another. But with Eris/Chris, he just has someone he can bicker with normally. At least that's the impression I got from his narration in volume 8 on the subject.

As much as he is feeling great about Megumin, his insecurities aside, he still considers parts of her personality a major turn-off. And we need not mention the parts of Darkness that makes her unattractive in his eyes.

>>153758607
I would correct some things.

>Kazuma wants to fug Darkness because she has a hot body, but is completely unattracted to her as a person

That's right and wrong. Another aspect to their relationship is that Kazuma is pretty confused by Darkness' shifts between being extremely pure and naive to being masochistic and slutty, and has a bit of tsun relationship with her. Plus whenever he can go all the way, he always seems to "accidentally" screw it up.

>Kazuma has genuine feelings for Megumin, but is scared of real relationships, which is why he spills spaghetti around her and nobody else.

He seems to like her enough and reciprocate her feelings, however neither side is serious enough for it to progress anywhere. Plus Megumin hasn't really pushed hard enough to cement it and keeps screwing around.

>>153759335
>a full "heart to heart" really isn't important since he has no goals of going back and doesn't miss it so it's not a huge issue.
While I do agree that the whole heart to heart thing isn't needed, he does clearly show that he misses Japan several times in the series.

And he did say he wanted to go back a few times, though how serious he was is debatable. It is important to note that his decision at the WN at the end ties into that. If he didn't make it a goal to go back at some point, his decision to remain in that world wouldn't really have been that big of a deal at the climax.

>>153758607
>Kazuma likes Iris because the idea of having a cute imouto (which he got from watching anime) sounds great
When did it ever say he got that idea from watching anime? All he's ever said is that he wanted a sister that wasn't related to him by blood. It was never mentioned that he wanted that because of anime shit as far as I recall.

>Kazuma has genuine feelings for Megumin

I really don't think this is the case. Especially since even he doesn't believe this to be true, or at least heavily debating it internally. Considering what type of series this is, I really think Meguminfags shouldn't be counting their chickens before they hatch.

>>153759529
Well, he was delighted he got a chance to play Yugioh again and even recreate his banned Yugioh deck.

>>153759529
Well I'm not a LNfag but in the anime he doesn't seem to care

The winning girl is always the original girl. Do people honestly think Kazuma won't end with Aqua?

>>153759612
>All he's ever said is that he wanted a sister that wasn't related to him by blood.
That kind of speaks for itself anon, you don't get those kinds of ideas anywhere else but anime and we all know he was a hikkineet before he died

>>153759484
Yeah, sad and annoyed at how Megumin is breaking her own flag. It's not like she not assertive, but she's pretty cowardly.

>>153730764
>But that's not funny
Jokes don't have to be funny for everyone.

>>153759375
Shutup Aqua

>>153759636
Yeah, this is largely an LN based discussion, so I don't blame you for not seeing it. Obviously since the anime lacks the "in his head" view on Kazuma you wouldn't know that. But he expresses nostalgia about Japan quite often.

In fact, some of his actions are directly connected to it. A few of the things he ends up doing is directly due to the fact that he didn't have the chance to do it when he was alive on Earth.

>>153759716
Because she keeps flipping the flag on and off and leading Kazuma on, it's probably going to backfire on her. Though her only real competition is Darkness. He has a lot of emotional investment in the both of them, considering how he chose to keep Megumin as an explosion happy useless mage instead of an unhappy useful mage, and literally spent all his fortune to save Darkness from an unjust wedding and would have made an enemy with the state if it weren't for some fortunate intervention.

His own feelings towards both seem to be hampered by his first love going off with some delinquent and the fact that both girls string him along, Megumin with her on and off flags, and Darkness being so damn tsundere.

>>153759208
same

anyone got this reaction image i need to save it?

>>153759680
I'm pretty sure the idea of wanting to fuck your sister who isn't directly related to you isn't an anime exclusive thing anon. I mean seriously, I'm sure most of the guys on pornhub who watch those scripts aren't really big on anime.

>>153759716
Yunyun nailed down her personality. She really likes to talk big, but when something actually happens she gets cold feet and doesn't know what to do. Just like when she is facing down an army boss or an actually threatening monster like the dragon.

Again, pretty similar to Kazuma in that respect.

Konosuba would be garbage without Aqua being a main character with Kazuma.

>>153759931
Maybe it's not exclusively anime, but it's really fucking common in anime and he's a hikkimori who watched anime and gamed most of the day, this really isn't much of a stretch anon

>>153758607
He only feals something for Megumin because of her confession, however she also has her spaghetti afterwards.
It will have an open harem end anyway.

>>153759989
All I'm saying is that it was never actually stated that he wanted that due to anime anon.

Really just thought to point it out since that's just an assumption on your part. Not good to just post stuff you think is the case, since we already had a bunch of problems with misinformation in these threads a while back. Would just prefer people to avoid that sort of shit.

All I'm saying is just stick with the story says outright than coming up with your own explanations. Just trust me in that it will save us all a few headaches.

>>153759886
It's mostly the girls fault honestly. Yeah Kazuma tends to spill spaghetti, but it's also their own fears about party dynamics and shit that prevents anything from happening.

Honestly at this point that's probably why Iris is somewhat ahead of them. Her not being in the party means Kazuma really doesn't need to give a shit about the stuff he is worried about with Megumin and Darkness. Hell, that's probably why Megumin is so damn aggressive about it in the spin-off volume.

>>153759935
I want a Light Novel book with Aqua being the narrator. I think she knows a lot more than she shows.

>>153759931
Kazuma seems to actually be more resolute when something big happens and when he has to face it. He's always the one "to take responsibility." Kazuma is a real piece of work in terms of character, because he actually has a lot of good qualities, but at the same time, his default setting tends to be his scummier qualities.

>>153759612
>heavily debating it internally
What are you referring to? Because it sure as hell isnt the latest spin-off.

I don't think Kazuma genuinely loves Megumin.

Out of the all the girls, no girl has connected as well with Kazuma as Aqua did.

Until Megumin can achieve the same closeness as Aqua with Kazuma like Kazuma actually bothering to remember that Aqua likes objects like weird looking stones, then Megu is in the same starting position as Darkness.

>>153760569
Gee, the spin-off that is largely not from his perspective doesn't feature him internally debating his feelings. What a surprise.

But in all seriousness anon, did you not read volume 9 (which the first half of the spin-off takes place during)? He brings up the fact that he isn't sure if any feelings he has for Megumin are real, or are just because a girl is giving him attention. I believe it was also brought up in volume 6 when she was still doing the song and dance.

>>153760416
Well there is a brief moment in volume 3 (I think) where it is from her perspective. It basically just shows that she and Kazuma have somewhat similar styles of thinking.

I would like to see an Aqua spin-off though. From the Vanir one it sounds like she is up to some fun shit when she isn't around Kazuma. And I'd just like stuff from her perspective in general honestly.

>>153760765
I mean does Megumin even have any secret things she likes? She's pretty vocal about all her chuuni and explosion based preferences.

>>153760765
I connect with and am closer to my dog more than anyone else I've ever met, but that doesn't mean I want to screw my dog.

>>153760765
I somewhat agree. Kazuma seem to be starving for affection (or maybe he's just lusty) that he'll think he's in love with any girl that treat him nicely or upfront that they like him.

>>153760812
>He brings up the fact that he isn't sure if any feelings he has for Megumin are real, or are just because a girl is giving him attention.
He asks himself if "this is love" since he doesnt even know what it feels like. Would be kinda retarded if he knew what it was if he never truly felt it. What you call "heavily debating" is literally an internal showcase of his insecurities. Hes not thinking about feelings for anybody else or that its comparable to the situation with Darkness. In fact, it becomes pretty clear that both situations are completely different and that his internal debate is not related to his own feelings but rather the girls actions. So claiming that he heavily debates his feelings seems pretty fucking retarded when 90%+ of that monologue is about showing that hes a) nervous and b) insecure about the situation (probably due to getting ditched before). Then you have him think about the repercussions, which are dismissed quite quickly. However I still think that it will be an open ending since the author will want to keep all fanbases on board, even though Megumin winning all the polls by a landslide.

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>>153761521
I know the LN artwork can be a bit inconsistent about it, but they really should have made the scar on Eris's face more prominent in the anime. I mean I get that they didn't want it to be too obvious, but if that was the case they could have just toned down the one on Chris' face a bit more.

>>153761698
If I hadn't been told I actually probably wouldn't have noticed they're the same person if I'm honest. Eris just doesn't show up often enough for me to put two and two together.

>>153761521
wait a second....
>white hair

>purple eyes


>sneak off "every now and then"
(chris only appears in episodes every so often)


>pretty flat tits
>darkness is a servant to her
>holy shit

>>153760970
What if your dog could transform into a human female capable of reproduction?

>>153761764
Yeah same, I had no idea till like 2 weeks ago.

>>153761966
It would still have the mental capacity of a 3 year old *at most*. I wouldn't fuck a perfect body if it had the mind of a toddler stuck in it.

Does Eris (Chris) often appear in vol 9 and 10?

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On one hand, I'm a bit saddened that Konosuba gets progressively more haremshitty as it goes on.

On the other hand, I think Kazuma has actually earned his admiration because he has 10 times more personality than all those other "nice guy" pussy MC's. He treats his friends like normal people instead of being a knight in shining armor (which most girls find creepy) and his good moments are completely genuine, rather than coming from a stupid moral code or belief.

>>153761764
>>153762042
Really? Most people knew they were the same since the story first made up an excuse for Chris not being there. Her mentioning her senpai causing problems and such was a pretty big hint.

I mean I can see why you wouldn't immediately think that was the case. But it really isn't subtle at all, especially as the story goes on. Intentionally of course, with Kazuma even pointing out the reasons why he suspected they were the same being pretty obvious.

>>153762161
She isn't involved at all, according to the spin-off it seems like she was doing her day job at the time.

>>153762259
She's just not there often enough to stick in your head. I mean maybe if I gave a shit about her I'd see the clues and put it together, but she's just a somewhat amusing side character and Eris is kind of bland. So clearly I'm not going to notice similarities or think much about why she decides to skip out on things.

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>>153762250
It really doesn't get very harem shit at all though?

I mean the number of girls that like him do increase, but that in of itself doesn't make it haremshit. It would need all those usual cliches associated with those series to fall under the haremshit category.

The recent stuff with Megumin does tread a bit in that direction though, so I'll give you that. But in general I don't really get the same feeling at all. Especially since the girls don't go full retard about it, and mostly just keep giving each other shit.

It gets mentioned a lot in these threads, but this series is a comedy first and romance second. So even if the number of girls who like him are going up, I don't think it will ever get truly haremshit at all.

>>153762259
Then, I'll wait until she appears again then I'll continue to read the LN.

This may come out of left field but what if we genderbend Kazuma?

>>153729752
How would it be boring? The only good main female character is Aqua and I don't see how this one could not have a good group dynamic. If you think the whole group is what makes KonoSuba interesting you have several issues.

>>153743305
This.

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>>153762874
Sorry anon but the whole group is what makes Konosuba. They all have character flaws and quirks and are more amusing and interesting than the generic heroines we normally get.

>>153762768
We go full /u/

>>153763144
Nah he's right Aqua carries the show.

>>153762768
We need to go further. Genderbend the entire cast.

>>153763192
>I'm not that anon but he's right
Sure thing friendo. Each of the mains are interesting, and the only person who carries anything is Kazuma

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>>153763211
>Konosuba becomes a homolust shoujo with "self insert" fem MC
Reminds me of this.

>>153763144
Having quirks =/= being interesting. Megumi is shit with her explosion joke and Darkness's is always a hit or miss. Aqua fails at almost everything but it's at least entertaining in many way. Kazuma is the one who really shines in the group. Saying something like"If one of them was not there it would not be the same" is retarded. Only Kazuma really matters. As for interactions, they work well with different characters, Megumin, although she is shit herself has pretty good interactions with Yunyun for example.

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>>153763434
I think you might just suffer from what is known as shit taste

>>153763349
Kazuma is the only interesting one while Aqua is the only main heroine entertaining all the time. I was not samefagging retard.

>>153763434
>Megumin, although she is shit herself has pretty good interactions with Yunyun for example.
You almost had me there until this. 4/10

>>153763491
Nice rebuttal. Won't change the fact that Kazuma is the only one who carries the group. The three other girls are not particularly interesting as characters, just like Eris. It's the comedy that makes it work overall. If Eris, Yunyun and Iris were mains, with Kazuma in the group it would work. It's not like the world would change anyway. Basically, OP is just a stupid anon obsessed with waifufaggotry.

>>153763659
See that's just the thing, not a word in your post isn't an opinion. Though even so I find it odd you could have one that says that the heroines are as boring as Eris of all people.

>>153763659
And you seem like a stupid faggot obsessed with self inserting. Ro each his own

>>153763528
Tell me, how is she interesting as a character compared to Eris or the other girls on OP pic? How?
>>153763722
I am not talking about being boring. Because none of the characters bore me, I am talking about them being "interesting" as you are claiming. Kazuma is the one who makes the party works. In all your answers there is literally nothing contradicting this, only rebuttals. None of the main heroines are original, Eris's archetype is just more used in general. What matters is how the writer use them.

>>153763820
>I am disagreeing so I must be self-inserting
Again, nice rebuttal.

>>153731140
Why is her ass blushing?

>>153763884
There's nothing contradicting it because I can't and neither can you since how interesting a character is is largely subjective. They're already not generic in their quirks and flaws, beyond that we can't say much because it's just me saying they're interesting and you saying "nuh uh"

>>153763947
So, you do agree that saying that this party would be boring is, retarded? If you do then we are saying the same thing.

>>153764067
Close, but I do maintain that Eris is entirely too generic to be interesting, she doesn't stand out from the other million "nice girls" out there enough.

>>153754247
Only because he hasn't thought of it yet.

>>153764224

In his dreams

If Kazuma hasn't had sex before, and the succubus service only gives you dreams, does that mean he's merely imagining what sex feels like?

He should fuck YumYum to get a taste. It would be trivially easy.

>>153764807
Yes he's only imagining it but it's not only based on his own experiences as the succubi are the ones that give the dreams to their patrons

Oya oya, kaze kai.

>>153764125
Cool.

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>>153736239

According to the WN that's not quite what happened.

1) demon kings are sort of a thing in this world, but generally they aren't a huge thing. In fact in the WN there are MANY demon kings active at the time of the series.... there is ONE which has humanity on the ropes.

2) The demon king in the WN is an aqua-transplant from earth. He was a hero with a cheat item that fought the prior "major" demon king who ALSO was a hero aqua gave a cheat item; and that former Demon King apparently killed the prior demon king which had humanity on the ropes who was ALSO a cheat that aqua chose to be a hero and gave a cheat item/power.

-you see the problem? The last (?) number of demon kings destroying humanity and causing a problem with the reincarnation cycle were all heroes aqua chose out who killed or defeated the prior demon king and in a fit of meglomania decided to remain on that planet as the NEW and IMPROVED demon king.

3) in the WN (and we see hints of this in the LN) most of the deadly flora/fauna was created by one or several cheats Aqua sent to the world to kill the demon king. YES the world became an inhospitable ausiland wasteland thanks to the very heroes aqua chose out to "save" it. For example, the "hero" who created the Crimson Demons, also created chimeras, many of the deadly monsters like the rookie killer, a number of the deadly plants including that Tranquility girl. He later created the Mobile Fortress Destroyer, which committed mass genocide against the humans of that world for over a century.
--The winter Shogun is something created by Japanese Cheats.

4) Aqua chose "Kazuma" as a "hero" (that's her standard for "summoned" hero); yeah she sucks at her job. Her cult claims the demon king is a pedo-neet, antagonizing him and causing him to wage war (yes she's at fault for the demon king trying to wipe out humanity because she encourages her cultists to make up anti-demon king propaganda)

In Short, Aqua is a plague on that world.

>Aquafags really trying to push her as Kazuma's love interest
Megumin has this secured, the only girls in her way are Eris and Iris, with most of the Iris material being LN original.

Aqua was never meant to be a love interest, and you have to accept it already. Even Darkness is more of a love interest than her, and Kazuma only wants her body.

Also, Kazuma is by far the best character, fuck off with Aqua.

>>153761521
Eris(Chris) is cuter than Eris(Eris)

>>153765682
Im an Aquafag and I think it's retarded to ship her with Kazuma. One of the things that make their relationship so great is how its purely platonic.

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>>153732288
when Eris is Chris does she get a huge nerf on her luck resistance or something?

>>153736537
>> "Blessings upon you Kazuma here's your damegami no refunds bye!"


he did get his refund and purchased Eris in the WN

>>153744877
Stop shitposting Aqua.

>>153765682
>Megumin has this secured
How can Kazuma even bz interested in her? I can't help but think it's being pushed because she is popular. I can't understand why she would love him either, unlike with Darkness.

>>153766714
>even bz
be*

>>153766714
She's the least bitchy of the heroines and is genetically engineered to be cute. They also get along generally well.

>>153733301

Honestly, all goddesses are incompetent. Even Eris threw away divine relics into ocean instead of properly bringing them to heaven. Their strategy is just laze around and just send Neets with cheats to the world.

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>>153766900
>calling Kazuma's team "heroines"

he already named his Heroine a long time ago

>>153744941

I mean, I get that she is supposed to be strong. She is literally product of eugenics. Having Iris as a party member is honestly boring.

>>153767596
Heroines is more common and recognizable than referring to them as his possy. Maybe his party would make more sense but in every other show it's all the same shit so I'm not about to make a distinction to calm your autism

>>153742423
10/10
>>153729752
I don't know who the girl on the far right is

>>153759484

In Volume 4 of Explosions, she literally says Kazuma is just as important as explosions to her. Megumin is getting aggressive and jealous after each volume.

>>153764125
She's a strait man, she's worthless without the cast around her. I'm pretty sure we can all admit that. She's my favorite girl, and I'm willing to.

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>>153767945

>strait man

Well shit I guess Aqua was onto something

>>153766225
Because Chris is "only" her avatar, she doesn't have nearly as much power. It's directly addressed in the novels.

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>>153766225

Yeah looks that way

>>153768099
>>153768207
ah so it is true

makes me wonder what would happen to Chris if Eris ever gets brought down like Aqua

>>153766714
>How can Kazuma even bz interested in her?

there is a LOT of chemistry between them. His NEET ways make him VERY similar to most Crimson Demon men, basically all Megumin has seen from men in her village is Kazuma. Megumin is like a walking reminder of Japan "Moe", or at least "Chuuni" and Kazuma probably had a bit of Chuuni syndrome when he was that age. She's adorable most of the time. She's a bit of an ass and a bit of a slime just like Kazuma (in fact those two connect on underhanded methods a LOT). To Megumin, Kazuma is actually rather cool. And to Kazuma megumin is rather cute.

Overall there is a lot of chemistry between them. The thing stopping them from fucking each other is they're both capable of sabotaging their chances just by dropping their spaghetti. And in the rare times they both dont drop their spaghetti, Aqua usually busts in on them or ruins the moment.

>>153763928
>he expects actual discussion or arguments in a konosuba thread

I think you misunderstand why we are all here. We just want to circle jerk about our seasonal waifus and meme, try posting something about explosions, thats what the people want. If you want to actually discuss the anime as anything other than AOTY, then fuck off.

>>153729752
As long as it has Kazuma and Aqua, the rest of the group doesn't really matter since they're the characters that carry the show.

>>153770828
>>153770828
I've had plenty of discussions of Konosuba as a perfect example of /tg/ chicanery sorry to hear you're missing out

>>153733495
>Beldia and Vanir were sent to Axel to investigate a "holy light" (Aqua) that appeared there.
But that's Kazuma's fault. He's the one who pulled Aqua down.

>>153733562
Volume 1 implies that the goddesses actually have little to no choice on who gets to go to the other world.

Actually, its implied throughout the series that both goddesses don't actually have much authority on anything, and that they're following orders from higher-ups.

What does Light of Saber even mean? Is this another spell like Turn Undead?

>>153771026
Iris would actively detract from the show though

>>153729777
>Implying it isn't