is fate zero a masterpiece

yes. fight me

a master piece of shit maybe lmao

>>153717650
maybe

>>153717650
no, but it's still a fun watch, like firefly.

>>153717650
Until the the banquet scene. It´s probably talked to death but Riders blatant hypocrisy turned it shit and it got worser from there.

I liked Rider before, but he and Kerry turned it shit.

>>153718006
>´

>>153717650
It's garbage for edgy teenagers.

>>153717650
no, but is very close

>>153718054
I´m not trying to start a fight. That´s just my personal opinion. Maybe I´m just biased.

>>153717650
It sure as hell is best Fate unless HF manages to be a good adaptation

>>153717650
>>153697863
What is wrong with you secondaries and baits?

>>153718467
Why do you want to fit in so bad where you don't belong?

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>>153718006
what's your problem with broskander?

>broskandar
>kys

Zerobabies are a bunch of faggot. F/Z is 4/10, but it's full bullshit and stupid people like it because it's easy for them to understand empty character. That's why they prefer f/z instead of f/sn.
It's easy to understand garbage people.
Particularly "broskandarfaggot", they don't even try to understand Iskandar and all of his bullshit full of beautiful speech, but he's a powerless faggot cucked by everyone.

F/z isn't a masterpiece at all.

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>>153717790
lmao!!

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I downloaded the Fate Stay Night VN from mofumoe and the entire folder is 2.8gb.
Does anyone know if this only includes the Fate route?
I know the other routes won't be accessible from the get-go but I don't want to finish Fate and not have UBW or HF

>>153720549
You have the regular FSN right now. You should download the Japanese version of Realta Nua (it has more scenes, more CGs, better music and more), and then patch it with the patch found on Beasts Lair (you will also get back the H-scenes along with the option to toggle them on or off if you're worried about that).

>>153718006
You're right, but it's impossible to express that perspective without a chorus of
>B-B-BUT LE BROSKANDER IS LE BRO KING
Nevermind that he's inarguably the shittiest king at the banquet, since his brand of civilization only lasts so long as he has another civilized nation to go beat the shit out of.

>>153717650
pretty close

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>>153717650
I liked UBW far better. Fate/Zero was good of course but it just wasn't as well thought out as UBW.

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>>153717650
I know the whole "Fate/Zero is better than F/SN" thing is bait but it still makes me upset because there are people out there who actually believe that, and will immediately be critical of F/SN just because most of the masters are highschool students.
If you're unable to look past the age of the characters and think a show is more mature because they're older and less emotional, you're probably an idiot.

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>>153724997

ubw was shit

>>153726613
What?

>>153717650
as much as a michael bay movie is

>>153725131
I prefer Zero because i couldn't like Shirou no matter how hard i tried. I found him pretty annoying, to be honest. And it wasn't because of age, i didn't even know that was a criticism of the show.

>>153717650
No. It was a good watch though.

>>153720549
That's the old version

https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=427133

http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/4745-Fate-Stay-Night-Realta-Nua-PC-version-Mirror-Moon-TL-insertion-project

UBW
>Tohsaka is a Stacy and a whore
F/SN
>Tohsaka is relatable and potentially best girl
F/GO
>Tohsaka is a literal goddess

>>153721921
Isn't that the entire point of his character, though? To highlight the "having the moral high ground does not necessarily make you a good person" theme of the rest of the series?

Gil arguably had the moral high ground in his time as a king, but let it turn to shit because his ego got the better of him.

Saber moralfags ultra hard, but she still lost in her final battle as a king because morals aren't always enough to carry you through.

Kerry has GOAT ethics in terms of maximum life preservation, but is still kind of a twat because of his psychopathic fixation on projecting his ethics onto others.

Meanwhile Rider is actually fairly flawed as a king, but he's still arguably one of the nicest characters in the series, in terms of actually interacting with other people.

>>153728788
I'm sure the answer to this question is yes, but did you actually finish all the routes?

He's kind of a twat for all of Fate and most of UBW, but I feel like his character development makes up for it. At the end of HF it's almost like he's a real character.

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Fate/Stay Night > Fate/Strange Fake > Fate/Extra CCC > Fate/Hollow Ataraxia > Case Files > Fate/Grand Order > Fate/Zero > Fate/Extra > Fate/Prototype Fragments > Fate/Apocrypha

Rationally debate me.

>>153730810
But everyone knows Prillya is the best Fate, anon.

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>>153730846
Thanks for reminding me, I forgot to put Extella beneath Extra and Prisma Illya between Grand Order and Zero

>>153730810
>not having F/HA at the top because it's the only one of the VNs to properly lewd Rider

Filthy secondary.

>>153730987
Rider wasn't even worth waifuing before HA so that's not worth much.

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>>153731106
What the fuck?

>>153717650
it's 1/10 garbage

>>153717650
>fate zero
>masterpiece
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA

>>153725131
It isn't the age of the characters that bother me, it's how contrived Fate/SN can feel at times. Like how all the heirs of the three families are young cute girls for Shirou to give the D, or how having Avalon in him lets Shirou get away with just about anything