Gowasu did nothing wrong and is going to have his universe destroyed.
How is this fair?
Better than most of the Champa arc but this fight still looked weird. .
>that guitar riff
>Someone at Toei drew this
I think they need to give goku and gohan serious eyes more often like in dbz, it looks really weird seeing gohan try to be serious with his domestic eyes
and of course looped animation
You've forced my hand then.
You have no idea how much Gohan's eyes bother me.
He's always been that way.
Its more of a trait from Raditz than anything. Raditz having Gine's hair but slicked back. Remember Frieza confused Gohan with being Raditz's son they looked so similar. Goten also looks exactly like Gine when he's older.
Goku and Bardock's genetics aren't the strongest, Gohan and Goten only manage to get a small portion of it before its dominated as they get older.
How strong is Majin Buu now? He lost his Evil/Kid side, so it can be assumed he got a little weaker than when he first appeared. Also, it doesn't look like he trains.
Did he get a power boost or is Universe 9 just this crappy?
Did no one else catch this epic Jojo reference?
Will best buu come back at the tournament?
Fat buu is annoying
>yfw the Goku at the end of Z is an alternate Goku
But anon, you posted the wrong Buu.
>le rapid punch spam
Where is the creativity?
Then why didn't you correct him?
He did much better than SS2 Vegeta did against Kid Buu.
Fat Buu was MUCH stronger than Majin Vegeta, he was almost SS3 Goku level, and the difference between SS3 and SS2 is 4x. Being less than half as powerful as Fat Buu would still leave him much stronger than SS2s, as proven in the fight against Kid Buu.
Reminder that in the manga SSJ3 Goku also had a widow's peak.
Where do we even go from this point? How can we have a next arc if this one is literally the strongest fighters from every possible universe?
The only thing I can really think of is fighting a god of destruction.
That's often inconsistent.
Reminder that Shadow was based off of SSJ2 Kid Gohan.
>tournament is over
>only universe 7 stands
>Goku wishes for all universes to be restored
>the 6 Zeno destroyed earlier come back too
>turns out he destroyed them for a reason
>worst enemy Goku has ever faced appears
>Disrespect the gods
>Break multiversal law of time travel
>Put the entire multiverse in danger just for a good fight.
These are the villains of this arc. Save us Pride Patrol!
>"I wish all the destroyed universes come back"
>All 18 universes come back.
>Even ones in other timelines
>this is some peoples favorite character
Look I quickly fixed Gohan. Colors from old Z, with the old eyes, with the new pose and hair.
There is no fixing Gohan anymore, just look at this abomination.
>Goku vs Bergamo
>Goku uses Kamehameha
>Bergamo copies it
>Goku figures out Bergamo can copy his techniques
>uses IT, Kaioken and a bunch of other techniques on purpose just to get a good fight
>turns SSB to end the fight
>Bergamo can copy transformations too
>why roshi, tien, krillin
>why not frieza, cell, dabura
Not one mention of the guy that isn't evil, that slapped both frieza and perfect cell's shit
Tell him the stakes and he'd be game to come back and help
>Nobody but Goku and Vegeta will get Super Saiyan forms beyond 2
>Humans will never power up into relevance until Uub
>Bulma will not use the plans she got from Gero's lab to build super powerful capsule bots to protect the earth
So many missed opportunities
Everyone forgot one interesting thing here
Goku said that he can't sence energy of those wolves.
No regular ki, no God ki...
What if you can't sence ki of creatures from other universes? Only from your universe and your twin universe?
this arc is going to be so awesome. jesus i hate waiting
>What if you can't sence ki of creatures from other universes
I think it was just because of those wolves, but that could be an interesting concept, but it will get stale if every single universe is like that.
>Buu lets a doggo throw him around like a ragdoll
yeah... Buu was fucking toying with him the whole time. Even when he put a hole through him. Once Satan got hurt (ie when Buu actually started fighting) Basil was thrown around like a chew toy.
Damn, Gohan was all the way sick of Cell's shit.
>Red wolf has fire looking aura.
>Yellow wolf breaths poison and has poison related aura.
>Inb4 blue wolf uses water and water related techniques, ice or air related attacks.
>Their god of destruction is an earth bender because dwarf + brown color scheme.
>according to vegeta, all saiyan women were like bulma and chi chi
>frieza genocided billions of hot monkey dominatrices
He's not canon even though he perfectly well could have been
>hot monkey dominatrices with floofy 80s hair
Lil nigga just saw his entire family get ripped to pieces and tries for dear life to run away and this fucking super columbine 2 chases after him and cuts his head off and smiles as he beats their dad to absolute shit.
None of that was necessary.
Not like a GoD is going to be fighting in this tournament. Toppo, Vegeta, and Goku are strong enough to be considered GoD candidates so them and Ayy LMAO are probably going to be the only ones at their level. Girl Beerus will probably be slightly better than Buu or Cell.
Most everyone in this tournament is going to be captain ginyu tier fodder.
trying to run doesn't make him less evil, plus he would've still tried to sneak up and kill fucking krillin or something when he was distracted, it was too dangerous to let him leave.
>plus he would've still tried to sneak up and kill fucking krillin or something when he was distracte
The fuck are you talking about the only time one of them did anything close to that was to hold Krillin hostage so he wouldn't get fucking murdered because they already saw running wouldn't help.
That guy is so fucking retarded. My nigga doesn't want to be bothered. "But I won't be bothering him :^), I'll just knock on his door once. I know he was asked to be left alone but I think It'll be nice ^-^."
I miss the black arc. While the ending was garbage I think it brought some of the best parts of the entire series. I decided to rewatch the arc and you can find a lot of things that you might have missed before. Such as,
>The imagery associated with Zamasu's descent into madness.
I didn't catch this the very first time watching the arc but you can see in the first few seconds the petals change their colour from a light pink one, to a very dark colour.
Or when black is giving his speech about how human's should be destroyed, the perspective is changed and it is shown that the only areas with any damage on earth are the areas that humans were living in.
This could have easily been the best DB arc if it weren't for the ending. I feel like they blew their load too early and used everything from new super saiyan transformations to the potara earrings. Will they make another arc as good as this one?
It's this kind of low-quality writing that bugs me about this anime
>>Cell Jr. becomes a little Police Officer and friends with Krillin because they're both small
as a fellow Android tries to raise him right
Wasn't there a fanfic of a Cell Jr escaping and growing up to be Cell and joining the Z Fighters or something?
Either way, that idea of 18 raising her nephew sounds cool.
>not having him stay the same height but with perfect cell's voice
Honestly there are a lot of what if scenarios with Dragon Ball that would be cool as fuck, even if they start off silly.
Like imagine if Hercule/Satan (whatever) had accidentally ended up on the ship going to Namek and then Guru ultimately unlocked his potential. Or Raditz survives. Or F. Trunks died and F. Gohan comes back to the past. So many things.
What is this ningen saying, the ending was one of the best parts. Zamasu won(kinda) and it was a bad end, there were casualties and permanent consequences. That's pretty much a first for DB.
Unless you're talking specifically about how Trunks "won" in which case yes that was shit.
If Bills killed Goku when he had the chance he would have saved all 12 universes. Goku is the biggest villain in DB and Bills missed the chance ofbecoming the biggest hero.
Prove me wrong
Where did it all go so wrong
Defeated by Piccolo and Goku
Defeated by Goku Krillin Yajirobe and Gohan
Defeated by Goku and Trunks
>Androids 19 and 20
Defeated by Vegeta
Defeated by Gohan
Defeated by Goku and Satan
Now jump ahead to super
Only defeated thanks to Whis reversing time
Erased by Zeno
What the fuck
SATAN HERO OF NAMEK.
Who would he even out bluff.
>GT Perfect Files vol.01
>Will new Super Saiyans emerge?
>Pan has inherited Saiyan blood and posses high battle power!! If the conditions introduced on the right-hand page [see above] are met, Pan and even Vegeta’s daughter Bra should be able to transform into Super Saiyans!! When the evilest of dangers arrives, perhaps the first female Super Saiyans in history will appear!?
>[caption to Pan] If Pan transformed, what would she look like!?
>[red text] Super warriors with infinite power!! The legendary evolution starts here!!
GT predicted the future!
This is the one thing that made me sad about this weeks episode.
When Buu got angry, we didn't hear the whistling from his holes.
Other then that the episode was pretty god damn good.
Defeated by the deadly Full Nelson
Defeated by the deadly Katana
Defeated by the deadly Namekian Frog
Defeated by deadly Legends and Swords
Defeated by Vegeta
Defeated by 17
Defeated by the deadly Cicada
Defeated by a deadly ghost screaming to a small child
Defeated by the deadly gun shooting a small dog and his friend
Defeated by deadly intestinal parasites
Defeated by Goku
Defeated by Goku/Vegeta
Defeated by the deadly nipples
Defeated by Zeno-chan
Her outfit is just Pan's top and Bra's skirt
That's another what if.
Captain Ginyu teaches the entire Ginyu Squad Body Change. They take everyone's bodies during the Namek Saga and become the Heroes of the story before switching back and going to Earth to be the new heroes.
>Xenoverse 2 treats Ginyu like a legit hero who looks after the wellbeing of his subordinates
I really miss that silly bastard. Why couldn't the Ginyu Force have become good guys?
Because Vegeta was still pissy at the time.
Its not worse than how they treat some characters though.
>Goku gets all excited about you learning from Frieza and shit
>Talks about how Raditz is the purest evil ever
>Meanwhile on Raditz side he knows he's weak and just wants to have respect and a partner/friend
>Still went to Earth after Gine/Bardock told him where Kakarot was
Just finished watching GT. Heard it was awful, never got around to watch it.
It's better than Super. I mean, both suck, but Super is way worse. Animation wise especially. GT had good ideas (except for super 17), just failed in execution. SSJ4 was way more creative than super saiyan blue. Anyone else feel like after Super is done everyone will agree dragonball GT was better in hindsight?
Why did Hit get so shafted in the new intro? Even Frost had more screen time.
>there is the possibility in the tournaments for deaths, drugs and no ring outs to happen
>you also need to please Zen-Oh-samas or shit will happen
You really fucked up Boku.
I was so disappointed by this. I was expecting something better coming up from Buu's rage, but nope, let's copy more stuff from previous Z fights and homage my ass
The way this is, I can really see they copy some battle parts of 17 vs Piccolo in the future 17 match.
Supreme Kai always seemed not that bright and overreacts too often. The Old Kai is the smart one and knows how serious the situation is or isn't.
If pic related job i will suck every cock clean of dickcheese, that's how confident i am in my boi.
There's still hope for the Doola Force!
>there is the possibility in the tournaments for deaths, drugs and no ring outs to happen
Only in the exhibition match; grand priest said they'd sort out some proper rules before the actual tournament.
The shadow dragons were fine. At least the consequences were clear. Super never did that. In GT, you know that it's the end, and everything is on the line, even if you know it's obviously going to be magically erased by Goku. In super, you didn't care about Future Trunk's world. It's already ruined, so who cares? The manga is doing much better with Super, showing innocence being killed by Zamasu and Black in Chapter 21, meaning more than just 15 people are left and this world has something worth protecting other than broken buildings.
They were pretty good, and pretty bad at times. When Goku isn't there everyone kinda just moans and yells at the enemy doing nothing, then when Goku gets there it turns into a fight. Somehow, GT did a better job of showing how powerful the fighters were, even though SSG and SSB were supposed to be the pinnacle of saiyan power, they don't seem strong. When people go SSJ or even just power up in GT, craters are formed, things get wiped out. It looks way better than Super.
Because he won't fight soon
What if Gohan loses this match because he starts screaming so much to get his old power back, his body cant handle, gets unconscious and loses the match. What will you do?
>You didn't care about Future Trunks world.
It was rebuilding, post Cell Saga Trunk's made it apparent that despite failing to fix time they'd manage, especially knowing that in one time line he saved the world.
Then Zamasu came to kicked the world while it was down.
I cans see your point that it mattered less since the Z-warriors figuring out Zamasu to be the culprit prevented the same from happening in their time line.
It's definitely not as fucked as it would be for the main time line.
Still, it was Future Trunk's world and it's a fact that the souls of all the future characters were outright deleted.
Neither are very good.
There are some good fights in GT though. I mean, just look at SSJ4 gogeta vs omega shenron, or Goku vs baby. GT had the same problems super did, but at least it wasnt an eye sore.
One of the best fights to me. Even the fillers added there were great
He did say that but the point is to please 2 kids, so I don't really think any rule will be safe.
I wouldn't be surprised if in some fight those kids wanted more and then both fighters get healed and fight again until the kids are satisfied.
I thought that was DBS. Realized it was the movie after linking it. Movie looks like shit too.
Just watch this video I guess. Can't seem to find a video of the Goku V Frieza DBS fight, just the revival of F one.
Oh god, she's so cute
My heart can't take it
>Weird transitions to 3d animation mid fight looks bizarre and awful
>Looks like its drawn in MS paint
>Overly bright colors, Golden frieza is more of an eyesore than anything cool looking
>Colors don't clash well, just a mess of bright lights
Yeah it looks like shit too.
BOG was good.
>GT fights better than DBS
GT has some of the worse aspects of the Cell arc, magnified over the course of the entire series. Most fights are incredibly dull, weightless, and generally just a chore to sit through, with Uchiyama's ever-present art style shitting things up all over.
A significant majority of the fight with Baby, for example, is just awful. Super 17 might have some of the worst-animated scenes in the whole franchise. And aside from Nova Shenron's fight, none of the Shadow Dragon fights really had a lot going for them.
Fuck, you remember the scene where Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta uses his Big Bang Kamehameha? Videogames may have made the attack look cool in recent years, but back in GT it was almost hilarious how dumb it looked and how lazy the animation for the attack was.
Here's the Super 17 "fight".
I'm not a fan of Super's animation, but come on. People saying GT was better are being ridiculous.
Buu's Kamehamaha>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gogeta's Big Bang Kamehameha
Buu can copy every technique and attack right.
Why krillin doesnt teach him his pizza cutter, buu would be literally unstoppable with it.
>Most fights are incredibly dull, weightless, and generally just a chore to sit through
GT's fights are consistent in their quality, with some being very bad and most being just average. Super is mostly absolute shit with some fights being pretty good.
>4:24 is still better than Goku vs Frieza, Goku vs Botama, SS2 Goku vs Black, and Goku vs Zamasu.
Superfags only ever pick the Super 17 arc when Super is filled with shitty fights.
Slideshow fight > offmodel animated by sweatshop workers "fight".
I don't know. The Future Trunks arc has a lot of great shit, but Super needs less Toei micromanaging everything, changing Toyotaro's original designs or adding in stupid shit. GT had some good fights. It's main issue was having other people fight, and them not holding off SSJ for no fucking reason at all.
As fas I recall Goku vs Ledgit, parts of Goku vs Rildo, Vegeta vs Gohan/Goten and that's it...? Everything else was bad. SSJ4 Goku vs Baby was a drab
That whole thing didn't make sense. Everyone seemed weak, even MUub. They had even trouble with facing one of the 17. Goku just gets there with "GOKU TIME" and suddenly SSJ Goku vs Super 17 like nothing.
The only good thing about that arc was 18 doing something in the end
>4:24 is still better than Goku vs Frieza
I still don't know how the fuck the idea behind bringing back an evil 17 that is 1000 stronger than he was even passed.
>Hey guys we could bring an enemy back for some nostalgia bait and give him a powerup maybe so he can match goku
>ok...so we can use frieza cell buu + the movie villains aswell why the fuck not we have gogeta in it maybe broly or bojack or what about king cold? that guy was underused, or we can create someone new!
>What about...Android 17!
>GREAT IDEA but how do we boost him?
>fuse with another 17?
>FUCKING RAISE YOU ARE NOW THE DIRECTOR GOOD FUCKING JOB HERE COMES THE MONEY
GT was a fucking mistake
Goku vs Baby didn't have enough shit blowing up. I mean they were on Planet tuffle so there should have been less consequences. Goku just kinda yelled at Great Ape Baby Vegeta until they both passed out. It should have been a world shattering fight, but nah, it wasn't. Plus, Baby wanted to protect the planet, maybe it could have shown baby getting more unstable throughout the fight as Goku tears apart the planet with his punches and blasts. Baby in general should have been more emotional, not generic villain 3000.
>Goku vs Ledgit, parts of Goku vs Rildo, Vegeta vs Gohan/Goten
All of those sucked except for Vegeta vs Baby Gohan.
The pizza cuter is shown to split in half literally everything it hits doesnt matter how strong you are seeing as krilling as a weak bitch, now you put someone a bilion times stronger with it like Buu and you can have an unstoppable fightning machine
Buu has the Candy beam which actually has a record of hitting its target. Krillin's worthless disk only ever hit one guy who was distracted by bullying a kid and even then it wasn't lethal.
God damn, Future trunks arc was well animated. It was really good until the end. Maybe instead of Merged zamasu destroying the universe, we got merged zamasu being sealed by trunks when vegito is beaten down, that would be better.
So what's the official way to watch Super?
The 2 movies, and then start at Episode 77?
>Goku vs ledgic
It was a better fight than the webm you posted.
>Flashy zoom zoom BoG style animation
Yeah no, Goku vs Ledgic looks like a fight you'd see in Z. All you did was post ""good"" animation, not a good fight.
Or it'd just break. People assume that it can cut anything because it cut Freeza's tail, but that has never actually been stated. Toriyama could easily show it hitting someone an getting smashed to pieces like what the anime did with Cell and it wouldn't contradict anything.
>It was a better fight than the webm you posted.
>Yeah no, Goku vs Ledgic looks like a fight you'd see in Z.
Yeah, and the fights in Z sucked because they deviated from everything Toriyama's fights stood for: good and creative choreography.
So what's your point?
Yeah sure because "look better" means having only better animation, lets forget about how GT has a whole bunch of 5 colors in the whole series with all of them being desaturated.
>the fights in Z sucked because they deviated from everything Toriyama's fights stood for: good and creative choreography.
Name 1 fight in Z that was based off a fight in the manga that did not include choreographed moments from the manga.
>So what's your point?
You're saying right now that fights in DBS look better than fights in DBZ. Just get out.
>Name 1 fight in Z that was based off a fight in the manga that did not include choreographed moments from the manga.
So not only have Superfags not watched the DBZ anime, but they also haven't watched GT, nor have they seen any fight in Super other than Goku vs Hit and Vegito vs Zamasu.
>Name 1 fight in Z that was based off a fight in the manga that did not include choreographed moments from the manga.
All of them included moments from the manga, but that's not the point, they included padding and repeated frames that made the fights incredibly boring, repetitive and completely unlike the genius and fast-paced nature of Toriyama's work. The moments from the manga were few and far between due to all of Toei's padding.
>You're saying right now that fights in DBS look better than fights in DBZ. Just get out.
Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. DB anime fights were always fucking garbage, with a handful of exceptions. DBS fights are slightly more entertaining than Z's mess of fights. Take off your nostalgia goggles and deal with it.
It was just talk, Pan and the others doing shit or looking at them, Kamehameha vs a blast, suddenly Goku needs to power up from saiyans, another blast vs and it's finally over. They clearly didn't know what do with that fight after Baby monkey
I wasn't even talking about Super, just said that those fights are the better ones from GT, from what I recall.
Super in another hand has their hit and miss shit. Zamasu bring me tea arc had more intense shit and had some good fighting parts, as animation, for what Super had until that point but went full retarded when Black goes scythe mode. Episode 14(i think) was the best part of Beerus arc and the better fight of all those 2 recap arcs from the movies. Movies had better stuff, like in Freeza's movie when Krillin, Tenshinhan, etc fought against those mooks.
The U6 vs U7 had pretty shit animation at times and Goku blue vs Hit was fine.
But if really want to see better fights I will go back to DB or the Z part.
Nigga Omega is almost blending in the background.
It's difficult to animate giant monkeys to look fast. I think baby should have just went ssj4, would have been way easier in the long run, probably would have looked cooler. Would make more sense for Goku to need energy. I also think they should have addressed the apparent energy drain ssj4 had, and have goku master it for the next arc, instead of him needing energy in every single fight.
>people still think anyone besides Goku, Vegeta, Buu and maybe Gohan will be anything but meme characters there to make up the numbers
if Buu has to go all out, everyone below Gohan is fucked
>To see Vegeta vs Goku, and Goku has stopped caring about his family or earth. No holds barred.
Considering the face that these fights are no holds bar simply based on the satisfaction of a child practically anything can fucking happen.
It's almost 1:1 except for the first 2 pages and 2 panels on the last few pages you dumbass.
It's nearly the exact same fight, oh and they made Kid Buu better and added in his twisty neck thing. Wow, so different, it's definitely not a " fight in Z that was based off a fight in the manga that did not include choreographed moments from the manga." Even though it has just that.
superfag btfo once again.
This is exactly why the series had so much padding, that entire chapter took not even 20 seconds of anime screen time.