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Did Universe 9 impress?
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>>153663183
>steroid-using scum
No.
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>>153663183
Poor puppy, he didn't deserve what he got
Also, it's kinda obvious Gohan or Goku will fuck up.
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>>153663183
So if Lorax is the strongest guy from U9, the apparent team leader since he was there in the exhibition match, and there's such a strong emphasis on Goku's fight being against Ayy Lmao then who's going to fight gainst the Lorax?

Gohan?
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Get this fur faggotry the fuck outta my dragon ball
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How to you even 'beat' Boo?
You either have to fuck him up real good like Vegito did or just disintegrate him, doesn't seem fair desu
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How is U9 Supreme Kai allowed to be such a dick head?
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>>153663318
His regen has a limit, as shown by the fight with kid buu, he's just insanely durable.
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>can't even beat Buu

Shit tier universe. But they will get their mandatory win against Gohan at least.
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>>153663318
>disintegrate him
They tried that. He regenerated from the smoke
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>>153663183
The fact that they're showcasing these guys already makes me think they'll be fodder for one of the other universes fighters to show how much more stronger that universe is for Goku's team to fight.
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>>153663409
Fucking Buu man
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Why is U9 Kai such a fucking cunt?
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>>153663252
>What is senzu beans
Nigga what?
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Does twintail angel have a name yet?
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>>153663460
Yamaha Empress
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Who's the guy in the black cloak? Everyone thought it was going to be ayylmao
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>>153663498
toppo, giant Pride Trooper dude with mustache. he's in the running for next god of destruction for his universe.
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>>153663183
>tfw too Smexi
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Is this Gohans sage mode?
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>>153663498
Not Lorax
>>153663523
>Toppo
What a name for Lorax
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>>153663498
It was Ayy in the initial preview, but they made him bulkier in the opening because it's actually Toppo
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>>153663183

I was actually impressed. Buu is strong but his most dangerous feature it's the regeneration so it doesn't matter how strong you are, you can't beat it unless you surpass Buu's power level by a mile. Gohan would have been in danger against Dog Sanji.
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>>153663526
That one angel looks chill as fuck.
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>Gohan is going to job against a fucking furry so Goku has to fight
Its not fair
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Universe 9 is obviously weak as shit.

Buu didn't even break a sweat.
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>>153663586
But expected.
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>>153663601
Can he even sweat?
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>>153663183

>Finally Cpt.Ayy Lmao's time on the tournament
>He's called Ai, Ay or something that sounds similar

I wonder how would /a/ react to that.
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>>153663540
Sage Mode perhaps? The pigmentation around the eyes points to that.
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>>153663601
Power means nothing
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>>153663540
Looks like his job mode to me.
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I want the furry universe to die already
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>>153663651
the captain is the guy in the back on the left, Toppo, the purple guy is probably some generic alien
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>>153663314
>>153663679
Yeah, those fucking furries, right? What the fuck are they doing in my Dragon Ball?
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>>153663664
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>>153663714

Seriously, what happened to them? Remember when the Earth's president was this guy?
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>>153663777
He looks so clean and smooth.
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>>153663777
Trips confirm fusion with Krillin, the ultimate jobber duo
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Buu should be BANNED
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>>153663183
>generic smug, laughing bad guys who use underhanded tactics only to get beaten anyway by the kind and virtuous heroes

New and exciting!

Seriously, fuck the Fur Squad. They're boring.
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>>153663779
Akira forgot about them. Oolong and Puar (and Yajirobe) are the last relics of Dragon Ball.
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>>153663854
Are you seriously watching DBS for the originality? What a retard
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>>153663318
>How to you even 'beat' Boo?
Positive energy beats evil energy. Spirit bomb would do or SPIRITO SWORDUUUUAAAA
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>>153663806
videl gets him skin lotion
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>>153663183
SUGOII
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>>153663854
The laughs really annoy me. Do they all really have that Vegeta-Tier confidence even when they literally have no fucking clue what is going on in other universes and how strong their enemies can be?
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>>153663318
you don't
you get him to join you
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>>153663877
>ITT: Answering OP's post makes you a retard

Sorry. I'll just shitpost and insult people from now on.
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>>153663854
>is going to get 11/12 of all existence destroyed just so he can have a good time fighting
>kind and virtuous
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>>153663926
Ever heard of keeping a straight face during a fight? The moment you show a moment of doubt, the opponent can psyche you out.
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>>153663910
Not gonna lie the animation was ass
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>>153663961
You know what I mean.
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>>153663951
t. redditor
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>>153663910
This is what happens when you hire rejects from studio perriot. Didnt toei watch the naruto vs pain fight?
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I want that hairlock back
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>>153664003
>daring to criticize three characters out of a 120+ character cast makes you Reddit

Sorry. I'll argue about whether the manga or anime is better. Is that more to this topic's speed?
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>>153663409
>He regenerated from the smoke

I never felt as desperate watching anime as when Buu did that for the first time. I was all "COME ON!!!! EVEN FROM FUCKING SMOKE?? HOW DO YOU KILL IT??" when Gotenks made him explode and burnt every piece of meat.
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>>153664053
t. Gohan
You are probably mad you are going to job HARD in the next episode
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>>153663540
That's his "AAAAAHH I'M BLINDED BY POSION" mode
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>>153663654
Buu was more powerful.
Buu has magical abilities.
Buu has ultimate regenerative abilities.

Easy
You need to be much more powerful than Buu to destroy him.
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>>153663450

Not a steroid you dumb fuck.
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>>153664117
Cucktaro. Toeishills. Ningens.
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Do we have some toeishills acting dumb again? Is it time to summon based futabro?
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At least he is back.
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>>153664204
Too fucking early also not enough posters for futabro to bother
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Toei are scumbags but this time I think these are proper hints that Son Goku this arc is gonna be the antagonist.
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>>153664287
Dead meme
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>>153663875
Baba and Android 8 have shown up, at least somebody on the production staff remembers them.
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Does this look like an innocent smile/grin?

It's neither a happy smile, nor a smug smile, nor an innocent smile.

It's a smile telling you that the person exactly knows what he is doing, and everything is going according to plan.
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REMINDER Ayy lmao got replaced
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>>153663540
Wolf musk eye shadow.
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So I just fucking noticed buu is wearing fusion clothes.
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>>153663827
What the fuck did you just say about my brother in law
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Where is the GOKU IS ACTUALLY GOKU BLACK clickbait theory video to strengthen my evil Goku headcanon?

Get to work, Youtube.
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>>153664348
True.
Anyway, whenever someone complains about muh furries, just post the early chapters from Dragon Ball. It's far too easy to weed out the underage/Zfags.
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>>153663306
Vegeta sama
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How Gohan's fight is gonna go:
>Gohan gets fucked by the furry's tricks for a while
>He goes super and gets the higher ground
>Furry gets his steroids and beats the shit out of Gohan
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>>153664456
Toryiama thought ayy lmao was way too fucking cool so he replaced him with some chinese dr eggman rip off to not to come off like a filthy casual
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>>153664504
>When Goku Black opened the dimensional pussy with he scythe he discovered it was a rift to Zeno's house
>Pretends to be Goku and asks Zeno to erase the real Goku
>Super Dragon Balls to wish for all of Goku's memories and habits to blend in
Retarded enough to work for a video. I can hear the South American accent already.
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>>153663450
>Instant recovery time
>Not a steroid

If anything recovered the body as quickly from fatigue/injury in real life, they would be completely banned from the sports world.
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>>153664575
It will be something like this

>Gohan gets fucked by the furry's tricks for a while
>He goes super and gets the higher ground
>Furry poisons Gohan and he's now blind
>Gohan jobs, no need of steroids.
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>>153664504
I have a better theory for you.

>Anything goes in the Tournament
>Goku and Vegeta fuse and create Vegito
>Zeno is impressed and wants to see more Fusions
>F. Zeno remembers Zamasu from his timeline
>Brings him back but as Black Goku
>Now each Zeno has a Goku friend
>Both Zenos fuse and then demand Goku and Black to fuse
>OP Goku is born

See its so crazy and dumb it might just be real.
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>>153664612
Toryiama is a hack. 6 GoD weremade by toyo. The wolf trio are probably some toei rejects as well. Guy doesnt give a fuck anymore
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>>153664368
could be an awkward smile, need eyes for context
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>>153664733
Dont forget that the 3 other GoD is a fat beerus a dwarf from lord of the rings and a yellow fucking mouse. Still better then whatever toyo came up with though
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>>153664368
From the perspective of other universes Goku IS the villain here, or at least the guy they probably want to punch the most.
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>>153663884
Hope SLASHUUUUUUU
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>>153664368
WHAT DOES THIS EVIL SMILE TRY TO CONVEY??
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>>153664843
TAKE THIS, MY LOVE, MY ANGER, AND ALL OF MY SORROW. FINARUUUU HOPUUUU SLAAAAAASHUUUUU.
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>>153664368

>He transforms into SSJ Blue and finishes the blue dog in seconds
>Every universe surprised some punny mortal can use god ki
>Goku yells something that sounds like "BRING IT ON!!! SEE YA ON THE REAL THING!!" instantly making him an object of fear when they learn what will happen to defeated universes.


He's going to be literally the "bad guy" in the eyes of everybody. Even his own friends.
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>>153664904
>POV switch to Captain Alium's team
>They beat Goku
>Now starting a new series from the creators of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Super!
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>>153664368
>>153664874
Goku has always been the villain.

>Minus says his age upon being sent to Earth is 3 (the first canon source of this)
>That makes him 14 at the beginning of Dragon Ball
>Goku says he's 14 but everyone is convinced he just can't count
>Goku actually remembers
>Doesn't really question him being a Saiyan when Raditz tells him all that much
>Is almost full on Saiyan attitude now

Goku knows what he's doing, he's been building his power this entire time, waiting to take over the entire Universe. He knew Zeno would destroy the other Universes, makes it easier for him to control all of the Universes, which will be one now.

Goku is the Ultimate Saiyan.
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>>153664025
NANDATO??
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>>153664668

Can you tell me then when during this fight Gohan uses Senzu Beans?

Please.

Or shut
the fuck
up
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>>153664134
>no asspull abilities that can turn anyone but goku or vegeta into pink shit

Sorry, kid... you are way out of your league... maybe in 10 years.
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>>153663318
Beerus did a pretty good job of it.
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>>153663490
>Yamcha Express
FTFY
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>>153663703
>Purple guy.
That's actually a female Beerus.
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Buu is fucking broken.
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>>153663777
JUST
U
S
T
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>>153663183
I FEAR this universe tournamente will become a total clownfest with those Autistic zenos watching it. He literally will allow all kinds of dirty-plays just because of fun for himself and wont give a shit just to have a lame excuse eliminate the universes.
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>>153664539
the problem isn't that
it's just that the internet forever ruined anthro characters
you can't just make a anthro character these days without someone drawing it with his degenerate fetish
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>Be in own universe
>Minding own business
>Everything is fine
>Zeno-sama is holding a cross-universe tournament
>It's at the request of someone else
>If you lose your entire universe is erased

From other universe perspectives, this is pretty fucked.
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Good Morning,
I'm here for the laughing at Gohan jobbing yet again Rehearsal, where are the others practicing?
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>there are people posting in this thread who still think all the other universes' fighters will be above Namek Frieza
There will be some fighters comparable to Tien, Roshi, Krillin and Gohan.
Mark my words.
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>>153665352
Team Goku will win by virtue while all the other universes look like ass for having to cheat to compete. Justified destruction of 11 universes.
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Best angel right here. How can any other universe even compete?
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>>153665409
In the back, follow the sound of laughter.
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>>153665413
>implying Gohan is anywhere near the same level as Roshi
>implying Gohan can actually win a fight
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This episode and U9 Kaioshin's comment about there being no room in U9 for losers made think that Zeno really will destroy all the universes except U7 that will win, but not before Goku uses the SDBs to wish everyone from all the other universes to be relocated to U7.
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>>153665380
That can be said for any character, especially a female character. That furry boogeyman you're afraid of is just that - a boogeyman.
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>>153665488
The alien, and his buddy's at actual virtue's themselves, charged by the god themselves to protect the universe. They even have a female Beerus.
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>>153665518
Thank you, have a good day!
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>>153665534
They weren't in any specific order, I just listed the legit weakest members of the U7 team.
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>>153665029
>>That makes him 14 at the beginning of Dragon Ball
Are you fucking stupid? That makes him 12 at the beginning of dragonball.
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>>153665413
This will literally make all other universes a joke if their top 10 include people who are Roshi tier
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>>153665314
>female Beerus.
>no eyelashes
>I think it's female for literally no reason
fucking dumbass
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>>153663910
>When you get so hard your head tail suddenly no longer exists
Look on the bright side, he no longer had his "make people into candy" hax for a brief moment
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>tfw still waiting for Piccolo to be badass again

If he's Toriyama's favorite why does he keep getting cucked
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>>153665499
They can't. Not against those dubs.
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>>153663318
>>153663409
I wonder why they never thought about using the mafuba back then?
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>fucking HYPE as fuck soundtrack starts playing
>Buu and Basil trading blows with top notch animation
>Buu starts getting overpowered
>Basil starts kicking him in the face repeatedly while the sick guitar riffs are playing and the U9 Kai is laughing like a fucking madman
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>>153665385
I don't think the other universes even know yet. Daishinkan only told Universe 7 because goku asked him.
If they think goku is an asshole now, just wait until they learn that.
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>For a moment I wondered why Vegeta had a haircut and dressed like Goku.

Is it me or is Gohan drawn weirdly there.
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>>153665629
>implying the teams are the top 10
If the teams were actually the top 10, then what the fuck is Roshi doing in the U7 team?
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>>153663875
>what is korin
>what is roshi
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>>153665667
>top notch animation
I didn't notice this, at all.
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>>153663183
What's his endgame?
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>>153663372
>>153663318

His regen may not exactly have a limit. When he fought kid buu, it's implied that he was getting hurt BECAUSE he was fighting a Buu.

Piccolo theorized that psychological damage hampered his regeneration, which is why Gotenks was beating the shit out of him and he wasn't recovering so fast. Perhaps if you hit him with a force that awes him, it impedes his regeneration. Makes sense, I think, since he can recover from being smoke, it would seem he's impervious to damage.

Either way I'm glad that despite the generally bad animation, the episode wasn't disappointing.
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>>153665674
Gohan confirmed Vegeta's son, literally explaining everything wrong with Gohan.
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>>153665380
Nigga, fetishes come in all kinds. Just look at all the crops of fucking Shin crossdressing being posted in these threads.

Porn of these wolves will be the least degenerate thing to be drawn once people get their hands on the loli angel.
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>>153665647
>If you throw eyelashes on it, its a female.
If you want to screen the post, be my guest, but anybody with eyes can see what it is.
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>>153665029
>That makes him 14 at the beginning of Dragon Ball
lolwut?
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>>153665748
Spreading his fur fetish across all the other universes.
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>>153665748
He's the fusion of Zamasu and Gowasu.
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>>153665748
shekels
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>>153665748
What's his godtube name so that I can subscribe to his ranting videos about the newst fursuits?
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>>153665748
>Le Jew Supreme Kai
I bet his Universe's Economy is based on Sheckles
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>>153665764
>Piccolo theorized that psychological damage hampered his regeneration
This isn't in the manga.
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>>153664784
They dont know about the Highl stakes, they think that they Will BR the ones erased at best.
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>>153663714
Those were cool furries.
The U9 furries look like they're taken right out of deviantart.
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>Goku gets the whole existence destroyed in one time line just so he wouldn't lose against Zamasu
>Gets 11 universes destroed because he wants to fight people

Remember whne he used to be a hero?
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>>153665846
>Goku's Brain is never seen in the manga
>Hence it's not canon
Dumb Goku makes sense now
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>>153665773
Alright fucker, we'll see in like 7 weeks when that episode finally comes out.
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>>153665764

Nope. Vegetto clearly said his regen powers were getting worse and worse because he had to use them nonstop.

You can beat buu if you can force his body to the limits damaging him enought times so he loses all his stamina. That's why SSJ3 Gotenks almost killed him and Kid Buu almost killed fat buu.
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Will we get a Gohan/Cabba fusion for ultimate disappointment?
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>>153665903
>Wanting to ruin Cabba by making him fuse with literal 100% jobber material
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>>153665893
If you're trying to be smart just know that it's making you look stupid.
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>>153665846
No, it is.
When Gotenks is fighting him, Piccolo says that Buu was hurt: not physically, but mentally, because he'd never fought someone that strong before. And as the fight continues, Buu gets more and more beat up, seemingly unable to regenerate. When Gotenks loses SS3 though, he's back to normal in a few moments.
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>>153665322
QUALITY
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>>153665937
>He just gets all of Gohan's latent potential and gets beefier

I'd be down.
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>>153665764
>Piccolo theorized that psychological damage hampered his regeneration

Where? In the "I'm the hope of the universe, I'm truth" dub?
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>>153665606
>3 years old
>spent 11 years and so many months with Grandapa Gohan

He's 14. Don't believe Kakarot's lies.
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>>153665674
thought that too, literally looks like vegeta with short hair.
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>>153665986
>Kakarot killed Grandpa Gohan because Gohan was close to figuring out the truth

It all makes sense now
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>>153665895
>Roshi will fight every female in every universe and win by grabbing their ass and tits.
>Even the animal ones.
Mark it the fuck down, Roshi is back baby.
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>>153665902
Vegeto doesn't say anything of the sort in the manga. Can you tell me when it happens?
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idk about anyone else, but I'm glad that 'sensing power' is now hand waved away (for at least this tournament) in this episode.
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>>153665707
You're late:
>>153664348
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>>153665984
In the manga, see: >>153665950
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>>153666059
He dosent, but Vegeto does say that his regeneration's are getting more and more sloppy the more pissed he gets and unable to concentrate, same with Kid Buu popping his head out his ass by mistake.
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>>153665748
The tournament prize money.
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>>153666041
>Never visits Gohan in heaven outside of non-canon material and only once
>that smirk on his face when talking about him becoming a Great Ape

Kakarot is evil.
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>>153666102
Ah yes, I remember when Vegeto fought Kid Buu
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>>153665791
ZAWASU
GOMASU
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Remember when she was a milf?
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>>153665664
In a what if story of Piccolo being the hero of DBZ in Super Sonic Warriors he uses it on Super Buu to seal him.
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>>153666102
Oh, that's anime only I think. The butt head was definitely anime only, not sure if he says something like that in the manga, but not in the translation I've read.
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>>153666165
Forgot pic
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Elephant is the luckiest GoD.


Unless it's actually a shota angel.
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>Plot twist of this arc
>Goku has been Black all this time
>The real one got destroyed in Trunk's universe
>Black is dooming all the universes just so he can put Goku's body to the test and erase Ningen everywhere
>He needs Super Dragonballs for the last part of his plan
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>>153663664
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>>153665950

Gotenks was beating buu so hard and fast he wasn't giving him time to regenerate. That's the way to beat him, overpower him and damage him fast enought so you can finish him with one big blast.
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>>153665691
>implying the teams are the top 10
This tournament is for the strongest fighters of each universe if they don't bring their top 10 then they're retards
>what the fuck is Roshi doing in the U7 team?
Nobody knows
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This guy
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>>153666236
Zamasu/Black before going insane after losing their body didn't mean to destroy the universe though.

The whole point is that they saw mortals as destroying nature and the other creations of the gods, so they had to be wiped out to save the universe. That's why they didn't just blow up Earth at once when they wanted to get rid of Trunks or Vegeta and Goku.
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>>153666236
>Plot twist of this arc
>Zeno decides to switch up the teams
>Piccolo vs. Goku
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>>153666274
>Nobody knows
To Mafuba some fucker none of the other fighters could otherwise kill
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>>153666229
Umeiwa... GOWASU

Nani kokoni?
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>>153666274
It was confirmed in the Freeza arc of Super, but Roshi is now as strong if not stronger then Freeza from the past.
>Each man here Lord Freeza is as strong as you where on Namek.
>Roshi slaps their shit with ease.
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Do you think Gowasu has told the elephant god and the loli angel about Goku and Zamasu?
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>>153663306
Lorax is U11
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>>153665662
I'll accept any bullshit powerup if it makes Piccolo relevat again.
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>>153666358
Tien could do that just fine and probably even better
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>>153666351

> I want to see Goku against his blue hair midget brother !
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>>153665902
>and Kid Buu almost killed fat buu
No, Kid Buu almost killed fat Buu because Buu regeneration sucks against other Buus. Vegeta states this in the manga.

Even Buuhan could regenerate from Vegito, Fat Buu could not regenerate from Kid Buu, or if he even did, was miniscule and lasted 0 time.
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>>153666390
Roshi couldn't even beat Raditz
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>>153666302
He kinda looks like older and more pale and more crankier Zamasu

>>153665647
It's in the shape of the head

The same is for real life cats, you kinda can tell the gender of a cat by it's shape.
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>>153665748
>stupid goy.jpg
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>>153666390
>Each man here Lord Freeza is as strong as you where on Namek.
What shitty sub did you take this from?
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>>153666421
I think you mean 18 vs. 17.

Just wait until Gohan vs. Cabba, which Saiyan can job the hardest. Double KO!
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>>153666390

>Roshi can now destroy planets on a whim with his finger

Eeeeeeeeh about that
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>>153665662
The Japanese basically hate everything and everyone that isn't Goku. It's the reason why the saiyaman saga was the only one without Goku, because as it was being published dragon ball was selling the least.
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>>153666401
That should be, or maybe they asked about Zamasu first
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>>153666390
>Each man here Lord Freeza is as strong as you where on Namek.
You've got to be kidding you're telling me random jobbers got to Freeza tier in about 6 months while Goku had to work his ass off and get super saiyan to get stronger than Freeza
and not just that but apparently Roshi got even stronger when the last time we saw him he was the same level as he always was
DB super is officially retarded now
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>>153666548
>now
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>>153666390
>>153666548

Those are just horrible subs. Nothing like that was ever actually said. Heck, they're surprised Tagoma is stronger than the Ginyu force.
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Why is everyone ignoring best girl?
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>>153666236
Goku going ssj blue in principle, counters this plot twist
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>>153666548
Nah, that guy is just pulling bullshit out of his ass
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>>153666584
Because she's used goods.
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>>153666429
Neither could the others, now look at them, Yamchaa and the other assholes boosted up higher and higher in the short span they was on King Kai's world. Which begs the fucking question.
>Why didnt Kami send EVERYBODY to King Kai's planet to train and come back.
>>153666518
Goku said it best in this episode, he cant read their powers because they are not fighting by the standards they are. Roshi dosent need to blow apart planets to be strong, but technique etc are qualifiers.
>>153666466
It was that his men where stronger, or big red tits guy was stronger, one or the two, but Freeza's men where in fact strong.
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>>153666620
She's only had sex twice in her life and is still a kiss virgin
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>>153666584
>girl

She's like 40
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Super anime is better than the manga. Tracetarato is not that great.
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>>153665322
Wow did Togashi sketch this chapter for Toriyama?
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>>153663540
Guy probably did something to him.
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>>153666265
Guess it's down to interpretation. Gohan was much stronger than Gotenks, so the same thinking applies.
Buu is impervious to damage considering what he can regenerate from, so it makes no sense that punches would "hurt" his body. I think the mental limit explains this neatly.
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>>153666526
>The Japanese
>Implying that's not the case for DBfags all over the globe.
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>that Goku speech
>that serious tone
>that look of fear in Satan's face while he listens to him

They really are going for the all "evil Goku" thing aren't them?
Seriously he couldn't give less of a fuck about the other universes.
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>>153666390
I thought the remainder of Frieza's army all sucked ass, and that's why they had to revive Frieza in the first place?
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>>153666623
>Roshi dosent need to blow apart planets to be strong, but technique etc are qualifiers.
Yeah no techniques didn't do shit against the crane school
They didn't do shit against Raditz
And they're certainly not going to do shit against people who are at least above Ginyu tier threats
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>>153666584
Because we're all waiting on her to grow up a little bit more.
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>>153666676
Buu saga Toriyama is lazy as fuck.
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>>153666548
>Goku had to work his ass off to get Super Saiyan.
and in Super "Not" Vegita only had to get a little pissy and he turned, and the kids where born with it.

The rules are always changing.
Did everybody just happen to forget about King Kai's planet and the training Yamcha and ground did there? They have always been a few steps behind Goku but none the less there.

>Saiyans come to Earth "Radditz"
>Goku and Piccolo can barely beat him
>Goku's buddies train with Kami and suddenly are as strong as radditz.
Like wise.
>Goku and buddies train and are strong if not stronger then Nappa and original Vegita.

goku even says it himself, Freeza wasnt much of an enemy looking back on it, and that the kids would have fun fighting his men.
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>>153666584
Because you're wrong.
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>>153666401
I would assume they know since pink elephant ceased to exist for a short period of time before Whis did a do-over on Zamasu's assassination attempt
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>>153664228
Holy shit that kamitube made me cringe so hard.
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>>153666746
>she will never go SSJ because its set in stone with what Toriyama said in the past because he couldn't think of a good hair design
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>>153666746
I'll pass
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>>153666746
Turns out Jobbing is a generational thing that affects Gohan/Goten but not Pan.
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>>153663318
>>153663884
So is this spIrit bomb the only way to actually kill Buu because pure energy bullshit?
Even if he couldn't do damage to him could he tank a blast from black?
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>>153666779
Hot.
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>Update notes from the transition from Z to Super
>Fusion is Nerfed
>Portora Earrings now have a time limit when none of the fuses are Kais
>Godly Ki Buffed
>Mortals can now Obtain Godly Ki though either a Quest or Ritual
>Finished adding in Celestial Hierarchy
>Instant Transmission sensing range Nerfed
Any other notes I'm missing?
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>>153666849
>passing on a top qt
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>>153666827
>Toriyama said in the past because he couldn't think of a good hair design
As any and all fanart shows it's as simple as giving them a regular SSJ hairstyle. Toriyama is just lazy.

>>153666849
Your loss.

>>153666850
Must be a genetic trait like twins which skips a generation.
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>>153665662
Same here anon, I think he has a large fanbase too. Why not pander to us?
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>>153666894
TOP

QT
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There's people that unironically like Pan?
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>>153665555
Good digits.
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>>153666769
>Vegita only had to get a little pissy and he turned
He had to train in 3000x times Gravity (which was 3 times the gravity Goku trained in) to get on Goku's level
>and the kids where born with it.
Your right giving the kids super saiyan was a mistake
>>153666769
>Goku and buddies train and are strong if not stronger then Nappa and original Vegita.
That was filler
>Freeza wasnt much of an enemy looking back on it
I thought it was stated somewhere that base Goku before super was still weaker than Freeza's final form
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>>153665662
Toriyama's favorite is Goku and Mr. Satan

Piccolo is third
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>>153666849
the gt design is awful
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>>153666940
Woo woo woo
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>>153666940
I don't give a fuck about GT Pan but I liked her scenes with Goku at the end of Z at the tournament.
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>>153666676
Don't talk shit on Togashi, that chicken looks delicious.
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>>153666967
He has objectively good taste
What are his favorite female characters?
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>>153665714
Superfags have something similar to the Beer Goggles effect, barely mediocre animation looks top notch because they're desensitized by the absolute garbage norm.

There were 2 bits with passable animation in the episode, he probably means the second one.
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>>153663779
>>153663714
U7 Earth had a furry holocaust off screen
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>>153665352
Daishinkan said there would be official rules in place for the real tournament but since this is an exhibition match to impress zeno, everything goes
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>>153667004
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>>153666964
>He had to train in 3000x times Gravity (which was 3 times the gravity Goku trained in) to get on Goku's level

He's only ever shown training up to 150g in the manga before Super. He asks for a room that can go up to 300g, but is never even shown using it in the manga. In the Z anime he did, but Super threw that away, since he only talks about having finally surpassed it in the beginning of Super.
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>>153666890
To be fair the Potara retcon makes sense. Vegito defused inside of Buu, and not because of "magic", considering Gotenks didn't defuse inside of Buu until the time limit was up.
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>>153667004
>dragon ball
>female characters
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>>153666214
I still fucking love ChiChi.
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>>153667004
I don't think he ever talked about his female characters besides that he forgot about Lunch for a while and he hates Chi-Chi.

I think it's a fair assumption to say he likes Bulma though, considering how relevant she is throughout DB and DBS.
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>>153666964
>I thought it was stated somewhere that base Goku before super was still weaker than Freeza's final form

Beerus stats in both BoGs movie and tv that base Goku shouldn't be able to beat Freeza, only believing it when he sees SSJ.
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>>153666964
>giving the kids super saiyan was a mistake
The problem wasn't that it happened, it was how it happened. I could understand if training with Gohan and Vegeta was the thing that made them peak so early, but instead it was just them getting yelled at by their moms. Also it's a real slap in the face when you think about how future trunks had to watch his father figure die before he was ready
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>>153666940
Pan has a cute design and she's a good character sometimes. She's just held back by shitty writers.

She was our first main character female Saiyan too, and female Saiyans are always interesting, not enough of them.

Unfortunately the first female SSJ we finally see is just a Broly ripoff.
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>>153667054
Uh what Bulma was the MC in the original DB and without her half the arcs in Z won't happen
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>>153664368
/r/ing a "keikaku doori" edit of Goku
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>>153667051
>To be fair the Potara retcon makes sense.
No it doesn't.

>>153667051
>Vegito defused inside of Buu, and not because of "magic"
Yes he did.

>considering Gotenks didn't defuse inside of Buu until the time limit was up.
Not the same kind of fusion, but it can also be because he was properly absorbed and not roaming around.

And even if you believe it makes sense, narrativewise it's still retarded to reduce the potara to being a slightly better fusion dance instead of a different kind of fusion with different drawbacks.
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>>153667080
I still think Launch should have been a Saiyan and him played off the change and increase in strength as a joke.

But no, just 'forget' about her because you literally stole her gimmick and made it a Saiyan power up.
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>>153666623
Pretty sure Roshi's only there to be part of Goku's cheerleading meme squad
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>>153667103
Well okay, fair enough but she's a sole exception and she does fuck all in Z.
The only other notable female character was 18 beating Vegeta and she was quickly sent to the sidelines.
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>>153666739
Freeza's men where Ginyu soldiers level power, and what you are saying is complete and utter garbage.
>They didnt do shit against Raditz.
Neither did Krillan, and he killed almost all of them by himself after Yamcha jobbered.
Then he proceed to fight men stronger then Raditz, and Nappa, and so forth.

Stop acting like these guys are not powering up, Tein fucking held Cell off for a short bit even, they constantly train, they all want to catch up to Goku but he is lightyears away.

>Technique isn't shit.
Ask Piccolo or Tein that shit or even Krillan, solar flares, masenkos, destructo discs. Nappa almost gets killed by that until Vegita tells him to dodge it!
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>>153666188
He doesn't. The only time Buu's regeneration stops working is against Kid Buu. Even SSJ3 Gotenks complains about him not being damaged

And Piccolo never says anything about his regen powers being tied mentally. Gotenks complains about his regen, and Piccolo says "he's mentally beaten!"

We need a storytime of the manga because these fucks here keep making shit up that doesn't exist.
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>>153666229
>unless
You mean hopefully, right?
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>>153665352
>>153667022
I would love it if there was a tournament were anything goes

We have already had like 6 tournament arcs all with the same rules
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>>153667082
>Also it's a real slap in the face when you think about how future trunks had to watch his father figure die before he was ready
That was just Toei's staff being dumb though. Right before the Cell Games Toriyama wrote the story of Trunks chapter where he's SSJ as soon as he's shown. But they added the whole "I can't become a SSJ!" stuff in the special for drama, apparently ignoring the possibility that we'd get another timeskip and young Trunks would appear in the present timeline.
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>>153667082
Trunks got his time in the sun, thanks to all the bullshit that happened in Super, he Zenkai boosted to be more powerful then Goku's ass then made a Spirit Sword to really fuck shit up.
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>>153666852
No, to kill Buu you have to completely obliterate him in one huge blast, one that's enough to drop his ki

SSJ3 Gotenks, Gohan, and Vegetto were capable because they were much stronger than the Buu they were facing.
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>>153665669
>Guy is buddy-buddy with the supreme god.
>Said guy asked the supreme god for a tournament because he is bored.
>God is going to kill the entire universe of the losers.
>You and millions are going to die because a guy was bored.

Goku is like the guy who remembers the teacher about homework kek.
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>>153666890
>Mortals can now Obtain Godly Ki though either a Quest or Ritual

It's like I'm really playing an MMORPG
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>>153667116
>narrativewise it's still retarded to reduce the potara to being a slightly better fusion dance instead of a different kind of fusion with different drawbacks.

The main issue is that once a way to undo Potara fusion was seemingly established, it had no drawbacks. It's why everyone used to wonder why they didn't just fuse against every villain that popped up. The 5 minute time limit and draining power of the users makes it so even if Vegeto is stronger it might not be an automatic answer to beat a villain.
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>>153667168
>He killed all the Sabamen by himself, who was as strong as Radditz.
Sorry anon.

I dont even know why I have to clarify this shit, we all have seen the series.
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>>153666890
>Fat Buu Absorbed at least two Kais
Does that mean he. in principle, has access to Godly Ki now?
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>>153665662
Piccolo finally mastered his magic class power and his adquired warrior class power he got from neil, jumping to a ssj3 level.
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>>153666236
>black and zamasu have the super dragon balls
>Used time rings to get more wishes right away
>Wished they were destroyed just so they could do some retarded multiverse tournament to get them back in another timeline
Fucking great plan
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Why doesn't Goku just
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>>153665662
Piccolo finally mastered his magic class power and his adquired warrior class power he got from neil, jumping to a ssj3 level, he didnt trained those before because the world was at peace so he didn't trained much and focused on helping dende.

Please make piccolo great again.
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>>153667124
Lunchfags are so obnoxious.

Her shit gimmick got boring after literally two chapters where Toriyama couldn't find ways to make it funny anymore so he had to subvert it. When a character is made up entirely of a gimmick, then the character isn't good.
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>>153667273
>God Buu
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>>153667165
>she does fuck all in Z.
Uh what
>She's the one who pilots the ship to Namek
>She's the one who designs the time machine allowing Trunks to return to the past
>She's the one who tells the Z fighters the locations of DR Gero's lab
>She repairs #16 allowing him to get killed so that Gohan can go berserk and beat Cell
>She develops the self destruct button for the androids
>She develops the Gravity room which allows Goku and Vegeta to grow stronger in a short period of time
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>>153667051
>Vegito defused inside of Buu, and not because of "magic", considering Gotenks didn't defuse inside of Buu until the time limit was up.
Potara are magical earrings, the Fusion dance is just a technique. Not the same thing.
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Any lewds of Angel 10 yet?
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>>153663854
>Buu
>Kind and virtuous
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Who would win in a fight, Krillin v 18?
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>>153667354
>>She develops the Gravity room which allows Goku and Vegeta to grow stronger in a short period of time
Wrong. That was Dr. Brief.
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>>153667082
Vegeta summed it up perfectly.

What is this a Super Saiyan bargain sale? When did the great legendary warrior become a child's play thing?
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I found it strange that Fat Buu did not treat Basil like just a bigger, Humanoid Bee and try to Pet him though out the match
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>>153667379
Krillin is supposed to be Cell level now, and 18 can't get stronger

so Krillin I guess
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What the hell happened to the regular super saiyan god transformation? Why don't we see it anymore?

Also, how did Vegeta achieve god ki without the ritual?
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>>153667407
If that anon would just recall, her dad helps her with a lot of shit she works on, he even helped repair 16.
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>>153667439
It's manga exclusive
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>>153667379
18 would beat the fucking shit out of Krillin, especially if money or clothes were involved.
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>>153667420
>Krillin is supposed to be Cell level now
Says who?

>and 18 can't get stronger
Toriyama says she can.
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>>153667420
>Krillin is supposed to be Cell level now
[citation up your ass]

>and 18 can't get stronger
[citation destroyed]
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>>153667439
>Also, how did Vegeta achieve god ki without the ritual?
Pride.
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>>153667379
18, she even says she's stronger than him
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>>153667439
Questline involved direct training from an Angel to the point that the trainee can learn to manipulate and control Godly Ki without initially being granted it.

It's a long questline though, take my recommendation and just find 5 other Super Saiyans and just do the ritual.
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>>153667420
17/18 have infinite energy, if they bothered training they'd be nearly as strong as Goku/Vegeta.
>>153667439
That is what SSJB is. Its just obtaining SSJG without the need for a ritual. Probably due to certain probability of God Ki, but not Kai Ki.
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>>153667448
Says Daizenshuu


Citation Needed
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>>153667439
Goku still uses it in the manga
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Is it now canon
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>>153667483
>That is what SSJB is. Its just obtaining SSJG without the need for a ritual.
No. SSJB is SSJG infused with Super Saiyan. That's LITERALLY why it's called Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.
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if bulma is so smart why doesn't she mass produce senzu beans
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>>153667456
>Tfw Goku still didn't say hi
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>>153667168
>Neither did Krillan,
Uh that's because Krillian grew stronger than Raditz over the course of the timeskip
>he killed almost all of them
Rage power boost makes you 10x times stronger in Shounen
>Then he proceed to fight men stronger then Raditz, and Nappa
Well to be fair he didn't beat any of them and needed Goku and Gohan and Yajirobe help to beat Vegeta
>>Stop acting like these guys are not powering up
I'm not
I'm perfectly okay with Tien and Krillin being in the tournament it's making Roshi a guy who was weaker than Tien when he first appeared being able to stand up to Frieza tier threats
It doesn't help that master Roshi was never shown training so you can't excuse him like you could excuse Tien
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>>153667480

No she doesn't, she outright says that she's stronger than him near the beginning of Super.
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>>153666939
CUTE!
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>>153665748
Is he a merchant? He looks pretty hapy there.
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>>153666769
It's always been my head canon that Goten and trunks can go ssj so early because of how powerful goku/Vegeta were when they had them
Goku had Gohan before raditz so goten>kid Gohan at the same age
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>>153667490
>Says Daizenshuu
Your ass. Citation fucking needed.

>Citation Needed
Q4: Do modified-human types like Artificial Humans No. 17 and No. 18 get stronger if they train?
A: Since they’re human-based, of course they can become even stronger if they train.
In the case of modified-human types like No. 17 and No. 18, since they’re human-based they can become stronger if they train. By the way, though they don’t need to eat, they do need to hydrate. Also, their cells deteriorate slowly, so they age slowly too.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/db-full-color-artificial-humans-cell-arc-06/
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>>153667440
It still doesn't undermine her accomplishments during the series
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>>153666390
The Frieza Force in RoF were bottom of the barrel jobbers Sorbet probably picked up in some backalley bar. Even Frieza complains they're unusually shitty
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>>153667518
I cannot think of a dragonball movie less canon than Tree of Might

All Z fighters are supposed to be dead or using abilities they should not have at that point

The timeline is so fucked in that movie
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>>153667562
Y-yeah? I just said that?

Are you okay, Senpai?
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>>153665748
>Le happy Supreme Kai
>His universe never had Hitler
>Le Jewish Conspiracy branched out to the point that Humanity is just Furries now
/pol/ was right again...
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>>153667439
I would have been content with SSJ god being that but SSJ Hair and that become his go-to power.

It looks way more interesting than SSJB and suits him.
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>>153667628
prince of manlets
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>>153667558
>It doesn't help that master Roshi was never shown training so you can't excuse him like you could excuse Tien
He talks about training in secret between the 21st and 22nd Budokai and Kuririn talked about training with him for the Androids. For that later scene though, the anime added a filler scene where Roshi rejects training, which is why there's this strong impression he doesn't train anymore.
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>>153667662
Being a manlet in the Dragon Ball universe lands you an 11/10 qt wife. It's a fair trade off unlike our sucky universe.
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>>153666548
The only people in that fight who were remotely strong were Frieza himself, Tagoma and Shisami. I think they did compare Tagoma-Ginyu to peak Gohan
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>>153667628
Vegeta is a joke.
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>>153667589
>>Citation Needed
Damn, nice BTFO, anon. You fucked him up.

>>153667490
>Says Daizenshuu
nice bullshit
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>>153667643

No I'm not, I'm reading things incorrectly

Everything is wrong with my life

What am I even doing here

Where's my tea
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>>153667518
There's only about 4 movies that actually fit in the timeline and that sure as hell is not one of them
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What if Universe 7 wins and Goku is expected to make a wish for something good but instead wishes to be even more powerful than Zeno.

Revealing that he is in fact Black this whole time who has switched places with Goku without anyone knowing.
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>>153667334
I'm a Piccolofag too anon, but don't get your hopes up
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>>153667633
From what I remember it's like a post-namek situation. I think something like Piccolo kills 2nd form Frieza or something, so Goku naturally has Kaiokenx10-20 and shit like that.
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Can I get a pic of basil going GIMME THAT THING

That was pretty funny

In some instances the jap voices are better like for basil, lavender, but for Goku and beerus the English voices are sooo much better
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>>153667802
^ I'm not this Anon, I made the Black is Goku shit up earlier as a joke or something interesting to come from this arc.
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>>153667084
All they have to do is keep Pan in line with her EoZ personality and not whatever GT did to her. Goku's power, Goten's manners and Videl's spunkiness.
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>>153667514
>>153667445
But why? Goku still shows his weaker transformations semi-regularly. But after SS3, he jumps straight to SSB like the GoD arc never happened.
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>>153667767
>Android 13
>Broly
>Bojack
>Wrath of the Dragon.

Only movies that fit. Broly can be argued with shit like Gohan seemed weak and whatnot, but I'm willing to debate that.
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>>153667802

I'm hoping U7 loses halfway through the tournament as a massive upset, revealing that there are many many fighters that are beyond Goku's strength and current ability.

Not just one Universe though, it'd be great if it was several.

Of course there would need to be some kindof asspull to prevent U7 from being destroyed.

Maybe one of the stronger Universes stands up for U7 and convinces Zeno not to destroy it.
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>>153667021
It never happened. Its just lies.
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>>153667838
If its Post Namek than why doesnt Goku use SS

And why does Gohan deage and look like he does at the start of Z , he lost a few years if its post Namek
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How do I marry Brolina?
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>>153667902
Because the anime followed the movie, where Goku "absorbed" SSG's power into his base, so he can't transform into it anymore. The manga changed it to where Goku never lost the ability to transform into SSG
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>>153667936
#FurryHitlerDidNothingWrong
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>>153667938
>If its Post Namek than why doesnt Goku use SS
No, it's a timeline where Frieza died before Goku went SSJ.
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>>153667957
First, get her name right. It's "Broliko".
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>>153667903
Garlic jr. also fits since it's pre z
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>>153667938
it's the timeline where goku's spirit bomb killed frieza
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>>153667902
I thought you always needed the ritual for SSG. Then I read the manga where Goku just transforms, no problem.
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>>153663651
>"How should we design Goku's next rival?"
>"なるほど! Let's take that generic Roswell alien,"
>"はい"
>"But we make him swole as fuck"
>"すごい!"
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>>153667903
>Android 13
Absolutely not, the only movies that fit are
>Cooler's Revenge
>Broly 1
>Bojack
>Wrath of the Dragon
Dead Zone is very debatable and I'm not touching that one
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>>153667936
>>153667021
>>153667647

>U7 Earth has a Hitler but no Jews, not even one to imply there used to be more they seem to not exist period
>Have Furries dwindle in population from 50/50 with humans to almost 0 by EoZ

So did the DB Hitler wipe out furries? Is he /ourguy/ ?
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>>153667989
What's the second thing?
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>>153667903
Broly doesn't fit because the only time it could have happened is during the 9 days before the Cell games, meaning the heroes fucked off and left the Earth at Cell's mercy for who knows how long.
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>>153667983
>>153668010

>Its a parallel universe argument

So its not fucking canon then is it

Also you still didnt manage to explain why Gohan deaged 2-3 years
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>1) Goku
>2) Vegeta
>3) Gohan
>4) Buu
>5) Piccolo
>6) Krillin
>7) Tenshinhan
>8) C-18
>9) C-17
>10) Roshi

Is that ranking accurate?
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>>153668106
No, 17 is stronger than 18, and 18 outright said she was stronger than Krillin,
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>>153668106
Tenshinhan is stronger than Krillin
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>>153668089
>at Cell's mercy
Cell was a psycopath, but he did have a sense of respect in his perfect form, he does have a bit of Goku in him so he'd want a fair fight
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>>153668033
Swoleswell.
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>>153668106
18 and 17 are too low IMO
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>>153668106
Tenshinhan > Krillin
The former has always been training, while the latter gave up being a martial artist for a while.
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>>153668034
>Cooler's Revenge
It's possible, but I've always seen this as Goku couldn't really use his SSJ state in the movie until the very end, so it's a timeline where Goku never went to Yardrat or something.

>Dead Zone
Piccolo, Goku, and Gohan are not supposed to have met until Raditz, so Dead Zone doesn't fit.
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>>153665769
Lolis are the least degenerate fetish in general

You're telling me Hestia is degenerate, but Boota is OK?
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>>153663183
>This is probaby their third strongest fighter in their universe
no
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>>153668106
>3) Gohan
>4) Buu
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>>153663183
After that showing I'm guessing Basil will be an SR card in Dokkan and nothing more.
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>>153668106
1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. (ultimate) Gohan
4. Majin Buu
5. Piccolo
6. 17
7. 18
8. Krillin
9. Tenshinhan
10. Roshi

No, now this is correct.
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Why are Krillin and 18 so cute together?
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>>153668156
16 Revealed 18 was stronger than 17 I thought.
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>>153663306
The prince of all saiyan's, vegeta of course. He decides he wants to be a GoD after all.
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>>153668053
Transcend dimensions.
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>>153668177
>>153668033
Someone please shop captain ayy lmao in the background of this
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>>153668106
1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. Buu
4. Gohan
5. Piccolo
6. 17
7. 18
8. Krillin
9. Tien
10. Roshi.


If anything swap Krillin for tien if your headcanon doesn't accept that, but this is the objective list. Maybe even swap gohan for Piccolo.
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>>153668284
Gohan has his ultimate form back, he's stronger than Buu.
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>>153668195
>Lolis are the least degenerate fetish in general
Whatever makes you sleep at night.
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Why don't Beerus and Whis know about Buu or at least Kid Buu?
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>>153664038
>The openings always show him with his DBZ haircut and in ultimate form, the anime itself doesn't feature either of those things
what the actual fuck
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>>153668356
>t. footfag
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>>153668095
>Also you still didnt manage to explain why Gohan deaged 2-3 years
What are you talking about? He's the same age as when he was on Namek.
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>>153668370
the sleeping meme
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>>153668106
1 Goku
2 Vegeta
3 Buu
4 Piccolo
5 18
6 17
7 Tien
8 Krillin
9 Roshi
10 Satan
11 Gohan
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>>153668156
But 18 still has been seeing the Z fighters regularly, while 17 was just doing ranger stuff, so I figured some of their power might have rubbed off on her. Because apparently that's a thing that happens.
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>>153668201
Losing to Buu is nothing to be ashamed of.
A few years prior Namek Frieza was the strongest warrior in Universe 6 by far aside from Gods.
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>>153668222
No, 16 only revealed that he was stronger than both 17 and 18.

18 had her power limited by Gero so she would be more controllable. Didn't work, didn't stop her from being much more powerful than Gero and easily able to ass blast him off the face of the Earth if she wanted.
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>>153668370
Beerus and Buu both sleep for long periods of time. They might have just missed each other

>>153668402
He does have his tail back for some reason
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>>153668106
>Goku
>Vegeta
>(Ultimate) Gohan
>Buu
>Piccolo
>18
>17
>Tien
>Krillin
>Roshi

But that's just what I think desu
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>>153668370
>Why don't Beerus and Whis know about Buu
It's possible that Beerus was never informed about Buu. Buu existed alongside time itself, so he and Zeno are probably the oldest, and the angels are only activated when they have a GoD, so it's possible Whis doesn't know him either.
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>>153663183
So what was the 1st wolf like ssj1 or maybe ssj2 level? Maybe even weaker?

Ssj1 vegeta was capable of coming very close to obliterating Majin Buu. A much stronger version of today's buu which lost a lot of power.

And this guy couldn't even put Buu on the ropes. So I take it he is much weaker than ssj1 magin Vegeta
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psssst kid buu was more powerful than super buu
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>>153668436
That might be the case, it wouldn't be surprising if it were true, but that's speculation.
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>>153668436
18 doesn't really fight unless there's money involved. She's content to just laze around and play dress-up the rest of the time.
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>>153668460
>He does have his tail back for some reason
It's gohan, dude. He gets his tail back all the time.
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>>153668106
1. Goku
2. Vegeta
3. Buu
4. Gohan
5. Piccolo
6. 18
7. 17
8. Krillin
9. Tien
10. Roshi

Toriyama confirmed that 18 was stronger than 17 and both androids are stronger than the humans, but Piccolo managed to pass both of them. Gohan hasn't trained and has dropped below Buu, but not Piccolo. Toriyama also confirmed that Krillin was the strongest human.
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>>153668494
He's outright stated to be weaker than Super Buu, but more dangerous
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>>153663183

They're a universe made of werewolf yamchas.
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>>153663318
Kid buu was strong enough to do it. You have to completely annihilate him in one hit or pummel him while being far stronger
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>>153668482
Keep in mind that Buu became Mr Satans Pupil after the Buu saga, who is the strongest man in the multiverse

Buu is at least as strong as Vegito Blue if not stronger
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>>153668482
>Ssj1 vegeta
SSJ2, you idiot.
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>>153668482
Vegeta was SSJ2 when he fought Majin Buu.
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>>153668561
Human fang fist when?
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>>153668482
>Ssj1 vegeta
SSJ2.
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>>153668482
Trying to measure his power by SSJ forms is no good because the power scales with the fighter
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>>153663664
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>>153668419

Gohan, the one person able to turn the legendary power of the Super Saiyan into nothing more than a distress beacon to call out to daddy.
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>>153668494
They say he's weaker than Super Buu. Even SSJ3 Goku can hold his own against Kid Buu, but he couldn't Super Buu.

I mean its straight up said he's weaker than Super Buu. Kid Buu is just a bigger threat due to the wildness and sheer chaos and lack of intelligence compared to Super Buu.
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>>153668599
It's Human tooth paw you ningen
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I hope the leader of the Wolfpack actually turns out to be way below Goku's level and the fight is treated as a quick joke.
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>>153668587
>Buu is at least as strong as Vegito Blue if not stronger
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>>153668474
If none of them know him it'd be nice if they questioned who he was
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>>153668607
Buu saga saiyans and buu are a good measuring stick
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>>153667633
>>153667838
>>153667938
>>153668010
>>153668095
After the credits it shows Vegeta on namek sitting on top of the namek dragon balls
Literally makes no fucking sense
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>>153664668
Yeah why the fuck would we want to heal that guy who just broke his leg mid-game? Fuck him!
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>>153663664
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>>153668592
>>153668604
>This meme again
Sparks show extreme strength only, not SS2. Keep crying, toeishills
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>>153668482
He was SSJ2 and Majin bullshit gave him a boost too.
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>>153668647
Going by the opening and the fact it's Goku probably
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>>153668634
There's always a debate. Buff Buu was stated to be stronger than Super Buu, yet Buff Buu immediately turned into Kid Buu who was laughed at by Vegeta. Going by that, itt's possible Kid Buu has the potential to be stronger than Super Buu, but he wasn't when first introduced. That's what I always believed anyway.
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>>153668640
Humans can have fangs too
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>>153668704
It's SS2, you fucking retard. How moronic can you be?
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>>153668419
>>153668222
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>>153668704
Vegeta straight up says he's SSJ2 a few times in the Buu Saga.

Deal with it. Electricity always denoted SSJ2 once it was introduced barring Goku's first transformation.
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>>153668613
>When he sees your dick
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>>153668661
>After the credits it shows Vegeta on namek sitting on top of the namek dragon balls
So it means that Frieza died before he killed Vegeta. Most like Piccolo-Nail killed Frieza's 2nd form or some shit and they went home and left Vegeta on Namek.
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>>153663827
When does Krillin job though? He bears enemies near his level and is usually matched against monstrosities that he doesn't stand a chance against
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>>153663910
I never noticed how weird Buu would look without his horn
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>>153668494
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>>153668704
Vegeta turns SSJ2 while fighting Goku and maintains that form
>>
They said that the strongest fighter will get the Super Dragon Balls, not the strongest universe. But how will they determine which fighter is the strongest? My guess is that the twist will be the final universe standing being forced to fight amongst itself. Gohan will have to beat Goku to save the universe, and the fight between them a couple episodes ago was a hint of what's to come. Screencap this post.
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>>153668704
>Sparks show extreme strength only,
[citation needed]

Every time a Saiyan transforms past SSJ1 they obtain sparks. Only SSJ state that had sparks was Vegito's SSJ1 which lasted for literally 1 panel.
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>>153668661
wait, really? I thought that was only a joke teamfourstar made, it was actually in the movie?
>>
>chance to introduce Alternate Raditz and Nappa
>Introduce Female Broly instead

Fucking why?
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>>153668661
No it doesn't
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>>153668866
>New "fans" get their information from a shit parody group
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>>153668872
You can't make Nappa's hair change to many different colors.
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>>153668854
Its gonna be Piccolo vs. Goku. Toriyama is gonna do what he originally wanted back in the Buu Saga, but everyone loved Vegeta.

Instead of Majin Piccolo vs. Goku we're basically gonna get Battle Drunk Goku vs. Piccolo.
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>>153668106
>Goku stronger than Vegeta
At worst it's Vegeta = Goku, but I'd bet he's a little stronger now.
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>>153668753
>I'll kill you
Why was Vegeta so mean?
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>>153668872
Fanservice. Nobody gives a shit about Raditz or Nappa but Broli gives casuals a hard on
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>>153668722
Didn't Kid Buu first get weaker, then Goku said his power was rising again?
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>>153668918
Toriyama wanted Majin Piccolo vs Gohan not Majin Piccolo vs Goku.
>>
>search up ドラゴンボール on pixiv.net out of morbid curiosity
>Most entries are bad drawings, averaging around 4-5 favorites each
>Drawing of overmuscular basil with a giant dick standing at almost 100 favorites

Sigh
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>>153668897
I love DBZ, but damn, last time I saw tree of might was years ago. The movie itself is older than me.
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>>153667589
>The Androids are already Picollo level with no training.
Imagine if they actually trained proper.
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>>153668872
What could have been...
>>153668919
Goku managed to push back Zamasu by himself while it took both Trunks and Vegeta to do so.
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>>153668915
BUT HIS MUSTACHE
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>>153668941
Nope, it was stronger first, then Vegeta made fun of his size so they assumed it got weaker.
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>>153668915
Nappa has a perfectly good mustache!

Speaking of, do you think he's actually balding or does he just shave like Krillin?
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>>153668932
>nobody gives a shit about Raditz

He just misses Mama Gine, why does everyone hate Raditz? ;_;
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>>153668494
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!
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>>153668991
He's old so probably balding
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>>153668991
Nappa went bald, Toriyama said this.
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>>153668964
And broke his arms in the process making him completely useless if it weren't for deus ex machina beans.
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>>153668918
>Majin Piccolo
I'm glad this doesn't happen. It doesn't really fit Piccolo's character development. He completely mellows out after dying in a way Vegeta didn't overtly do until later.

I hope Piccolo gets some good match ups in the tournament, though.
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>>153663318
How do you "Beat" cell if even a single living cell can regenerate him?
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>>153668964
He couldn't even move his arms after that blast though. It was basically the equivalent of a Kikoho - he used an attack far beyond his power level that damaged his own body.
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>>153668722
I thought it was obvious that Kid is technically weaker than Super, but more "dangerous" thanks to his total disregard for everything in a fight, even his own safety.
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>>153668991
>>153669021
>Implying Sayans have something as weak as balding genes
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>Gohan killed children who were just trying to please their father
He deserves to job
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>>153663540
Lavender gave him some hardcore african goggles.
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>>153668964
Vegeta was also more tired than Goku. Everyone always seems to forget that part.
>U6 vs U7
>Vegeta 3 people in a row
>One of those people turns the arena into a sauna (to see why this is bad, look up Zyzz rest in peace brah)
>Drained from transforming into Super Saiyan Blue
>Fights a guy he's never seen before at only 1/10th of his real power while tired

>In comes Goku fresh off the stage and having seen Hit fight Vegeta
>OH SHIT GOKU WON WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT
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>>153669062
By destroying every single cell of his body. Like Gohan did.

And with Buu you just destroy ever single atom of his body, and every atom surrounding it for good measure. Like Goku did with Kid Buu and Vegeta tried with Fat Buu
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>>153669062
Destroy every cell.
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>>153663910
Kek buu looks like a fat monk
>>
I'm glad that Frieza's reason for blowing up Vegeta was retconned to Beerus ordering him.

I mean, they're strongest fucking fighter before namek saga was weaker than Cui,
>>
>>153669062
Cell dies if the core in his head gets destroyed, he stated this
>inb4 but his upper half was destroyed and he regenerated
plothole
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>>153669084
>Cell is Green (Gold and Blue = Green)
>Cell Jrs. are Blue

You are now aware that Cell was truly Perfect and Cell Jrs. were the God Ki side.

God imagine if Cell had become a good guy how goddamn powerful he'd be with training compared to everyone else.

Could Cell fight on par with Beerus? I mean his Saiyan and Chilly Willy DNA would be insane with any amount of God Ki.
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>>153669084
But Gohan was a child trying to please his father when he did that.
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>>153669062
Destroy the left over cell before he regenerates
Gotenks and Piccolo tried doing this with Buu, but he regenerated from the smoke, Cell can't do that
>>
If Vegeta has this "Goku's rival" going for him, why didn't he ever bother to learn new techniques?
Goku isn't actually stronger than Vegeta in terms of raw strength, he just got more techniques and know how to use them: instant transmission, kaio-ken, etc.
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>>153669062
spirit bomb his ass
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>>153669153
But Goku was a child trying to please himself when he sent Gohan to fight.
>>153669170
Its pretty much confirmed that if Vegeta didn't think so much, he'd be stronger than Goku.

>SSJ2 working on pure rage and instinct he's stronger than SSJ3
>Whis saying that Vegeta is held back by how much he thinks during a fight compared to Goku whereas Goku just lets hid guard down to easily
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>>153669115
>Fights a guy he's never seen before at only 1/10th of his real power while tired
manga and the anime are way to different
>>OH SHIT GOKU WON WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT
He lost but I get your point
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>>153669170
Why didn't Goku teach everyone IT since it would save so many lives

Only Goku is allowed to have cool moves
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>>153669147
>plothole
Full speech:

Cell:
>“There’s a small clump inside my head…This makes up my nucleus…As long as that clump isn’t destroyed, my body can continue regenerating…When I self-destructed, my nucleus fortunately remained uninjured…Quite frankly, I hadn’t calculated on being able to regenerate…I was lucky…And even more happily, my body regenerated as my perfect form, even without No.18…And it wasn’t merely my perfect form: I had vastly powered up like Son Gohan…This was probably done by the Saiyan cells, which greatly increase in power when they are saved from the brink of death…And I even managed to learn Son Goku’s Teleportation…So in short, I was able to return here, having become even more perfect. It seems that rather than defeat me, Son Goku has given me several presents.”
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>>153669147
That was changed eons ago
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Why couldn't Piccolo Daimao recover from being split in half, when Piccolo could recover with just a head?
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>>153663381
Fucking Buu is one of the strongest beings an almost invincible you idiot.
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>>153669080
I think this was the idea, but the way the story plays out there is evidence that can possibly support that Kid Buu was stronger as well.
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>>153669228
>But Goku was a child trying to please himself when he sent Gohan to fight
I fucking hate Goku sometimes.
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>>153669116
>>153669119
>>153669147
>>153669160
I was mocking him
>>153669211
This is the answer, all broken bullshit can be solved with a bigger spirit bomb.
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>>153669255
Or the Kaioken. It lost the whole "super dangerous" thing on Namek until Blue brought it back
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>>153669255
Because Goku is a tard.
>>153669264
>people still argue that the lightning aurad Super Perfect Cell who suddenly started beating SSJ2 Gohan's ass wasn't SSJ2
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>>153669306
>Piccolo Daimao recover from being split in half
Didn't he blow up in the manga? I think he was down for the count, like your torso is 70% of his energy gone and he couldn't regenerate, so he put the remaining bit of life into a newborn egg so it'll hatch and be stronger than he was.
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>>153669147
>>153669062
source

>>153669264
Yes but earlier his upper half and by extension his head was destroyed and he still regenerated anyway.
Plothole
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DRAGONBALL EMERGENCY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFeZLJLgq-8


WMG took down the "Dragonball Z Linkin Park 9/11 Tribute" video

Is there a mirror of this wonderful piece of Dragonball history
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>>153668759
>16 was the strongest among all Gero's creations
>every android after him is weaker than the previous one
>16 is stronger than base form Cell
>Gero made sure the android who resembled his dead son could not be surpassed by the others
What a good dad
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Before the SSJG thing, Goku and Friends didn't know anything about their god of destruction even existing, but they were the strongest guys in their universe.

So with the Tournament of Might, it's possible that the strongest warriors of certain universes never met their GoDs and Kai's before? That they were one day summoned by gods they never knew existed and were told "there's no time to explain, you need to fight or your universe will be destroyed"? That's kind of creepy.
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>>153669378
Cell regenerating at full power was a plothole too. His and Piccolo's regeneration never restored ki until that scene.
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>>153669333
>>153669255
Kaio-ken 20x could have made humans useful.
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>>153669378
>Yes but earlier his upper half and by extension his head was destroyed and he still regenerated anyway.
Toriyama just forgot he did that
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>>153669150
Well considering Frieza only trained for like a month and reached past SSJB, if Cell was a good guy, he's got like 10 years before Beerus shows up.

He might be nearing Zeno levels at that point. If he trained the entire time.
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>>153669458
He might not be at full power though, it's just that his power boost makes up for that like Goku going SSJ against Freeza.
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>>153669458
saiyan cells/perfection, etc
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>>153663430
Obviously, because they're being used now, in a meaningless exhibition match.
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>>153668759
>13, 14 and 15

So they're canon?
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>>153669458
He's an Android though remember. He probably has memory backups and stuff.
>>153669504
He was definitely at full power and stronger. He was basically SSJ2 Cell.
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>>153668759
I honestly wish we could see some interaction between Dr. Gero and Cell
or what Cell even thinks of him
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>>153669264
God that whole Cell speech is such utter bullshit.
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>>153665766
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>>153669454
>That they were one day summoned by gods they never knew existed
I always thought this happened with Universe 6.
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>>153669461
It wouldn't have changed anything really. Maybe the brief struggle with Gero (although we still got Gohan hitting him and Tenshinhan dodging a beam from him), but as soon as the other androids appeared everyone would be powerless and after that it'd just add up.

I guess Kuririn wouldn't have been taken down in two hits by a Cell jr, maybe.
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>>153669542
>He was definitely at full power and stronger.
I don't mean that he wasn't stronger than before I mean that the power boost was so big that even with energy for regeneration he still was stronger than before.
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>>153666428
I don't recall Vegeta stating that. He merely notes that Kid Buu is able to do damage.

However, it's worth noting that Fat Buu lost most of his power to the evil grey Buu, and there's really no reason to assume he ever got them back.
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>>153665660
>>153668806

>Head tail
>Horn

My God guys, seriously?
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>>153669529
Of course. He had to get to #20 somehow. We just don't know if the actual characters from that movie are canon. They could probably be different builds for all we know.
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>>153669578
All he needed to do was introduce some way for the humans to keep up with the Saiyans' growth rate. Zenkai boosts turned the series into a saiyan wank fest.
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>>153669399
>22.02.2007

Only a few more days until it's anniversary
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NEW THREAD

>>153669370
>>153669370
>>153669370
>>153669370
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>>153668722
Logically Kid Buu should be weaker, but I remember it being conveyed that because Kid Buu was a constraintless ball of rage that his relentless aggression made up for the power loss.

Power gains are useless if you aren't willing to go full-out, which was the point being made with Fat Buu.
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>>153669529
>So they're canon?
Pretty sure the movies work on a these people existed but never happened because of reasons so here's a alt universe where they didn't die/met Goku
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>>153669084
Cell was probably going to destroy them anyway. Perfect beings don't need to reproduce.
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>>153669680
The movies work fairly well as their own separate timeline that leads into GT. The biggest problem is Bojack Unbound since Goku is dead and the previous two movies practically require Cell to have died before he did in the series.
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>>153668370

But he does. In the movie he mentioned Majin Boo
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>>153669629
Vegeta:
>“…This is bad…Have you noticed, Kakarot?...The fatso’s power is falling…If it’s Boo against Boo, then he can take damage…”

The difference between Kid Buu and Good Buu was not as drastic as Buuhan vs Vegito. It's just Buu can not regenerate from another Buu similar to how Beerus can knock out Buu.
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>>153669778
Worst offender the is Hatchiyack special. Every movie villain is practically canon in that special, yet none of them fit into each other's timelines. Fusion reborn does this as well.
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>>153663664
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>>153668095
>Its a parallel universe argument
>So its not fucking canon then is it
>Entire arc about multiple universes shows a fruit similar to the Tree of Might's
The movie itself doesn't even have to be canon, but this could mean the tree itself is.
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>>153668494

weaker but a better fighter
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>>153669150
>Super Perfect Cell with 7 years of training, SSJB and Golden
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>>153668202
>>153668211
>>153668284
>>153668419
>>153668462
>>153668535
>>153668106

>nobody getting it right

Real list:

1. Roshi
2. Goku
3. Vegeta
4. Buu
5. Gohan
6. Piccolo
7. 17
8. 18
9. Krillin
10. Tien
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>>153668106
Strong Tier:
>Goku
>Vegeta
>Piccolo
>Krillin
>Tien
>18
>17
>Roshi

Stronger Tier:
>MAJIN "RUBBER BABY BUGGY BUMPER" BUU
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>>153667991
Except nobody knows Gohan pre Z
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>>153666302
I get more Babidi vibes from this guy than Zamasu.
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>>153670508
>OH NO OUR FURRIES ARE LOSING
>PAPARAPAPA
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>>153666987
what... the fuck... is this?
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>>153670838
oh god
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>>153670958

Something that was fixed for the volume release.
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