Just finished this. What next? Where would the story go from

>>153653791
It does continue though. The rebuilds are sequels.

>>153653791
>What next?

Lifelong depression.

If people didn't come back in time then they'd die. And even if they did come back the world would be thrown into chaos as everyone was just sucked into a giant magic "fuck you" hole where they know the secrets of everyone else.

>>153653791
No one knows. It's for you to decide. (In my opinion Asuka goes crazy and asks Shinji to kill her and Shinji does and goes even more crazy and Shinji eats Lilith when hes hungry and people start coming out of the LCL and try to build new lives but they all hate each other and how would they even grow plants? Idgi)

>>153654291
Anon I think you have autism.

>>153653791
It really is the perfect ending, nothing more needed to be said or done in the series. I guess if you want to imagine a happy ending you can hope that more people can regenerate and shinji and asuka and the others can repopulate the world. But apparently not many people have the strength of heart to bring themselves back from the sea of life, since asuka and shinji are literally the only ones present in the final scene. Most people have weak hearts after all

>>153653791
That's so werid seeing Shinji and Asuka side by side like that.

>>153653851
rebuilds are not sequels, they are AU's. There is no way in hell that Sohryu would just vanish without a trace and Rei not being Lilith anymore.

>>153654599
Implying shinji didn't become functionally god after instrumentality and the rebuilds are his deluded imaginations.

>>153653791
if you actually want the full you have to know japanese and play all the games/read all the extra shit. The anime was never really finished and was given a rushed botched end. which explains why it is so shitty, but dumb asses like to pretend the anime's lack of story is deep(because they foreshadowed a lot of the stuff that was meant to be included but never got to it)

>>153654569
Not to mention, significant time has passed. I'd venture to say its been a month or more until Shinji wished Asuka back to the living.

>>153654647
>play all the games/read all the extra shit
Is there some translation or a summary at least?

>>153654640
Now I'm confsed, Intrumentality is kind of like the Matrix and everyone is still stuck in a dreamstate (intrumentality).

Its just an extention of episode 25-26. Multiple possibilities of Shinji Ikari.

>>153654707
the new eva blog has many translations

>>153654647
Are the Visual Novels canon? I've heard some people say that Girlfriend of Steel and Angelic Days are not canon, while some say there is.

>>153654707
nope. also don't listen to the dumb asses who don't bother to learn japanese and check that shit out. pretty much everyone that tries to tell you that the symbolism in the show mean anything (other than foreshadowing of what had been planned to be done) hasn't even checked any of it out.

>>153654806
haven't read those. according to this anon >>153654800
there may be some translations though. so you should just read and find out.

>>153654647
It’s fucking 2017 and these kind of myths of ‘budget issues’ are still around the fandom. They do lacked cells acording to Tsurumaki (he said they 'plummeted’) as well as schedule problems. That’s why the animation of chapters like the episode 24 had so many stand-stills and even frames from the storyboard never made it. The rest are myths. Having a bit of drop in animation quality has NOTHING to do with changing the ending. Even Tsurumaki himself said not much after that he was content with EoTV and that doing EoE had been 'a bit of unnecessary work’, even if he knew he should be happy ‘having their work made into a movie’.

It’s 2017, god fucking dammit. You could investigate at least a bit, is NOT that hard to find primary sources. The Internet it’s fucking free. Stop reading and believing EvaGeeks-tier fanwank. It’s embarrassing.

>>153654806
They're not canon.

>>153655003
Alright, so why bother playing/reading them?

>>153654653
Asuka wished herself back to living

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>>153655028
cause you want more eva and you dont care how you get it

>>153655028
If you want to see Shinji and co in high school AUs with shitty harem settings, you should read them. (Campus Apocalypse is decent though)

>>153655028
I'm not the anon you replied to, I'm just saying they're not canon. If you like Eva then don't play/read it.

>>153654653
If he wished her back to the living, why would he choke her as soon as he saw her? She did it herself

>>153654996
>be me
>make shitty unfinished mechs anime
>gullible little shits watch the show
>they think it's super deep because they keep interpreting the foreshadowing as some kind of symbolism
>make shit loads of cash
>some people get suspicious of even shittier quality half way through show
>claim it was all on purpose in an attempt not to lose all the edge lords from giving me all their money

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>>153654569
>It really is the perfect ending
"Congratulations" is better, the definitive ending.

>>153655167
To confirm that he wasn't in a fucked up instrumentality fever dream.

>What next?
depression, self loathing, fear of social interaction, moe waifus, wanking over "interpretations", asuka porn, arguing with reifags
>Where would the story go from here if it had continued?
Down the toilet

>>153655202
congratulations, shinji, you killed all of mankind!

>>153655263
That's really fucked up of you Shinji

>>153655096
I don't know if its regarded as canon by the master himself, but I heard in some card its stated that "Shinji wished for Asuka despite him always hurting her"

>>153655167
I don't know, nothing makes sense in eva. Its like trying to decipher the meaning the holy trinity in the bible.

>>153655167
He could have just talked to her. I'm pretty sure he stopped choking her because it reminded him of Yui's touch (watch the scene, it's a direct parallel). And Yui did say everyone could come back. Asuka was just second because she's terrified of losing her individuality

>>153655409
That was a card commissioned by ADV, the Western dubbing company.
They also said Asuka has morning sickness.

Nothing they produce or say is canon, ignore them.

Yui says anyone can come back as long as they desire to, it would make no sense for Asuka to be wished back by someone else. In fact it would destroy the message of the entire ending.

>>153655409
>I don't know if its regarded as canon by the master himself, but I heard in some card its stated that "Shinji wished for Asuka despite him always hurting her"
I think that's true, but that doesn't mean that Shinji wished her into existence. She wished herself to be there.

Shine would have wanted to confront Asuka though. Too much was unresolved.

>>153655409
>the master
you mean the dirty jap that keeps tricking weebs to buy the rest of the story that he couldn't finish

>>153655167
Shinji didn't wish her back, asuka had a strong enough heart to bring herself back to life, if you remember Yui in one of her final lines tells shinji something along the lines of "don't worry, everyone can return to their human forms if they have the strength to see themselves in their own heart" so asuka just had the strength of heart to bring herself back

>>153653791
Somehow Eva made me really sad. Last time I had such emotional engagement was Madoka's Rebellion.
On the spot I can't even name other shows that made me feel these levels of angst.

>>153655541
>That was a card commissioned by ADV, the Western dubbing company.
No, it was a Japanese card commissioned by Gainax.

Also, an early draft of the script had a scene with Asuka returning from the sea herself. It seems that she wished herself back.

Reminder that those who prefer EoE to EoTV have shit taste
Not saying that either is better, but EoE is simply unnecessary

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>>153655336
That's what it says on the official Evangelion™ Trading Card Game™(buy it now)

>>153655202
>Aida says "Congrats" instead of "Congratulations"
What a fag

>>153655611
>No, it was a Japanese card commissioned by Gainax.
Nope, it was commissioned by ADV from a Japanese third-party. There was no involvement with Gainax.

>Also, an early draft of the script had a scene
Yes, it had her kicking down her grave marker.
So obviously Shinji wasn't the one to wish her back, it was Asuka.

>>153655613
that's exactly what I mean when I say that the faggot that made eva locks the story behind 『Extra Content』. why is it being praised by the circle jerks that make up the eva fan base when in any other fandom making you pay for more story is condemned?

>>153655611
Didn't Rei bring her there though? She teleported there.

Speaking of which, I wonder what Asuka and Rei talked about in instrumentality and why she decided to leave after Shinji. She could have any anything she wanted.

>>153655611
He may have wanted her to come, but I really doubt it was him who actually "brought" her back. She came herself

>>153655811
I think at that point he wanted literally anyone to come. He was by himself for who knows how long.

>>153655613
This isn't official

>Neon Genesis Evangelion: The Card Game (新世紀エヴァンゲリオン カードゲーム) is a collectible card game that was first released by Bandai in 1998

Bandai took images by Gainax illustrators and added their own blurbs/text.
They didn't have any input from Gainax themselves outside of the images.

>>153655952
Weren't Bandai the ones that made Mana Kirishima? Yeah, they're shit

>>153655607
When I rewatched it last time I put off watching EoE for a week. I simply didn't want to feel it regardless of how well it's made.

>>153656024
Yes, all the Eva products they've made are extremely out of character and retarded.
Not to be taken seriously or as canon.

>>153656037
EOE is regarded as the "bad" end in many spinoffs, so I don't know why people are so optimistic about it. It reeks of despair and sadness

>>153656159
>Spinoffs
Trash

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>>153655651
>Asuka says a variation of "I feel sick" to imply she's disgusted with Shinji
Why didn't she just give it a break?

What does /a/ think about the manga?

>>153656270
Because she knows Shinji was wanking it to her

>>153656159
wrong, it's the best end
>shinji meets omnipotent wish granting being
>gets any wish
>"I don't like other people loledge" -shinji
>"so what's your wish" - wish granting being
>"kill everyone loledge" -shinji
>"I got you senpai" -wish granting being
>fails to kill asuka
>shinji sees asuka is still alive
>tries to kill her
>realizes he could rape her instead
>stops choking her
>shinji waits until the movie ends to rape her
>fades to black
>end credits
>evafags praise ending for being deep and touching

>>153656272
Sadamoto's fanfiction

>>153656272
Rei and Kaji are better in the manga. Everyone else is worse

>>153656646
she is a whore who will do anything for attention. almost as bad as shinji in some way and in other ways worse than him
TL;DR she is a slut and wants some D

>>153656711
So they hate each other but want to fuck each others brains out, 2deep4me

>>153656824
shinji is a boy slut who wanted to fuck her so bad that he killed every one so that she had no choice to fuck him for repopulation

>>153656895
That's a very interesting way of putting EOE...

>>153656895
>Three different people sacrifice their lives for him
>"If no one cares about me, they can all just die!!!!"
Shinji is such a fuck.

>>153657253
thats what I said here>>153656350
although his actions in the rebuild seem more justified to me, but that might just be because the rebuild has a more coherent story.

>>153657253
He decided to just destroy the world just because Asuka rejected him, I guess he really is an idiot.

reminder to never give shinji nuclear codes.

>>153657318
Rebuild are objectively better, no matter what some autists say.

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>>153657332
Not gonna lie, former Shinji lover here. This is fucking hilarious watching Shinji crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this kid get the nuclear codes.

>>153657332
>asuka is about to be killed
>shinji crawls in corner aking for her to save him
>she asks for his help
>he refuses
>she begins to realize that he was a piece of shit
>he asks her for help
>he tells her that he only trusts her
>she rejects him
>shinji makes wish to omnipotent being for everyone except for the two of them to die
>they are the only people left
>she is injured and doesn't have the energy to stop him
now she can't refuse shinji
>now they can "repopulate the planet"

>>153657411
I miss the /tg/ threads on /pol/

>>153657318
Rebuild Shinji is an angel. NGE Shinji is disgusting.

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>>153657411

>>153657407
yeah. in the rebuild it shows how no one told him anything, they all told him to make his own decisions (while forcing him to do what they wanted),and when they did tell him something it was a lie. which led him to try and find the truth himself only then to be manipulated into causing the 3rd impact.
meanwhile tv shinji was just an edge lord who hated his dad

>>153654599
They are sequels or at least intermediates.
>>153654640
More likely its one of the alternate realities he experiences during instrumentality to see if he could have tried and changed anything before he ultimately realizes that real life he has to deal with it and its consequences.

>>153657629
if the rebuilds are sequels, then why aren't they shit like NGE and it's other sequel EoE?

>>153657704
Because Anno made up his mind in 20 years.

>>153657744
>made up his mind
you mean he completed the shitty incomplete and rushed dribble that is NGE's script?

>>153657835
pretty much

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>>153655764
While EVA does that, the card game isn't such an instance. The card game is bullshit.

The original story + EoE forms one complete telling. NGE also does that arguably, but EoE is like an extended ending which doesn't contradict the original.

The problem are mouthbreathing autists like the asukafaggots over at evageeks who keep trying to piece everything together, using bits for it as ammunition for a pointless waifu war.

They all die, because even if people come back from the LCL, there is no infrastructure/resources left to survive.

>>153655612
>congratulations!
>how disgusting
>they're the same thing!

Um ok faggot

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>>153659497
What the fuck are you talking about

>>153659632
This is only a proof of Shinji's homosexuality. He only blushes when girl shove their boobs in his face, but a boy just looking at him makes him behave like a faggot

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>>153659632
You shouldn't be using Asuka as an example.

Asuka is a transvestite that looks like a man.

>>153659681
True, I don't think he ever blushed as Asuka or another girl unless they were doing something sexual to him.

>>153659723
REI BEST GIRL

>>153659681
He blushed because he was nice to him

>>153659632
He blushes because that's an awkward situation when Asuka tries to seduce him many times and forcibly kiss even.

On the other hand, he has the same reaction when a certain boy only smiles at him.

>>153659937
This shit again. He blushed even before he was nice to him. Because he felt sexual attraction.

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>>153653791
Manga? It ended years ago, finally.

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>>153659969
Stop responding to this troll, he spams this shit every thread.

Ignore and report.

>>153660005
Is he doing anything that violates the board rules though. You wanna get suspended?

>>153660110
He's gotten banned before for posting this stuff so the mods clearly disagree with you.

>>153659969
No, please stop fanwanking disgusting things, his love for him was pure

>>153660169
But he made him orgasm in EOE

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>>153660209
see >>153660005

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>>153660209
Nope

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>>153660241
When will Iku-kun finally respond to Anno's feelings, so we can have a happy end less teenager tier angsty at least?

>>153660241
I wanna have dinner with Anno. I woulf lick off the crumbs stuck to his beard

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>>153660322
When Iku-chan responds to Anno's feelings, we'll have a 30 minute sex scene between Kaworu and Shinji.

>>153660325
No homo, right?

>>153660352
Ikuhara's eyes scream "help"

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>>153660352
>30 minute sex scene between Kaworu and Shinji.
I really need this in my life.
No homo

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>>153660377
I bet Anno was groping his leg under the table

>>153660352
Kitten and daddy dom

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>>153660430
>30 minutes of Shinji smiling like this
Yes please

>>153660352
>>153660467
Anno really looks like a serial rapist here, creepy.

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>>153660547
His beard looks like pubic hair

>>153654771
Instrumentality is the merging of all of humanity's souls into one perfect being. You as a distinct person no longer exist.

>>153655605
This. I believe his last interaction with her was him choking her during Instrumentality. That's probably where his mind went when he reformed.

>>153660352
Damn, I'd go gay for Iku-chan too.

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>>153660778
He's a qt

>>153660352
That would also make Anno's wife leave him, sending him into a deep depression so he can finally make something that's good. win/win situation

>>153660841
>That would also make Anno's wife leave him
Nah, Anno's wife is a huge Kawoshin fujoshit who probably would get off on him having sex with Iku-chan while she watches.

>>153659681
That and he was bombarded with images of beautiful naked women during his time in the LCL.

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>>153660906
And he instantly left it without hesitation, even pushing a nekkid Rei away from him, fucking homo.

Shinji only ever thought of women sexually = he's straight

>>153661187
What about the scene where he was checking out Kensuke's dick?

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>>153661298
Shinji's dick is so small he can only get pleasure by taking it up the ass.
Good thing he's gay.

>>153661298
That never happened, and it'd be straight behavior anyway. You fujos have never been to a mens locker. A penis is something a man is conscious about. Coincidentally, big dick porn is also the most popular among straight males.

I mean, I'm sure you know why we call it a dick-measuring contest.

If you want a rational and logical take, then Shinji is into girls. He sees them in his dreams, they turn him on and give him erections, and he masturbates thinking of / looking at girls.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Shinji is gay, or is turned on by men in the series.

>>153661476
Did you even watch Eva? Because you would know that it happened if you did. Fake fan

>>153661439
>Sadahomo's manga

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>>153661068
Why Shinji always looks so lewd?
Was that intentional?

>Where would the story go from here if it had continued?

Don't worry OP, I've read hundreds of shitty EVA fan-fiction - Shinji and Asuka would either:

A. Have sex on the beach
B. Kill each other on the beach
C. A + B
D. Become part of a shitty survival story where scavanging/hunting is mixed with teen angst dialogue, ending with either A or B
E. Shinji somehow time travels back to episode 1 while keeping his memories and then becomes a mary sue that singlehandedly stops SEELE and fucks Asuka

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>>153661516
Lusting for cock

>>153661533
Good description of RE-TAKE (More like MISTAKE)

>>153661476
The truth

>>153661508
>official character designer
It's okay though, Kaworu's dick is big enough for the both of them

>>153661533
Or F. He initiates Rebuild.

>>153661439
Well, now I feel sorry for him, poor boy.

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>>153661617
Don't feel sorry for him, he has a way to get past that.

>>153661476
THIS

>>153661497
Butthurt, retarded Kaworufag.

>>153661564
>>153661692
Also, Rei is the best girl.

>>153661476
Did you just admit you check out your friends dicks all the time? Is there anything you need to confess, anon? Don't worry, this is a judgement free zone

>>153661699
I'm a Kensukefag, take that back.

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>>153661703
kek, I think you're onto him OP

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>>153661703
Yeah, and they look at mine. You don't think girls don't check out your tits, or your ass? You're competition, bitch.

What are you, twelve?

What was the name of that doujinshi with loli Rei where they rape Kaworu?

>>153661703
>Shinji is into girls. He sees them in his dreams, they turn him on and give him erections, and he masturbates thinking of / looking at girls.
>There is no evidence whatsoever that Shinji is gay, or is turned on by men in the series.
Is the truth too much for you, fujo?

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>>153661743
Didn't mean to offend you. Being called a Kaworufag is offensive.

>>153661752
>you check out your friends dicks all the time?
>Yeah, and they look at mine.
A-anon, that's not how friendship works.

>>153661656
Is that the bottle one, anon? I forgot the name.

>>153661798
Leave him alone, it's his way. Actually, there's nothing wrong with sucking off your best bud or checking out whose balls are bigger

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>>153661820
Hole Circumstances of my Secret or something

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>>153661838
Who said anything about friends, retard? You go to a gym, a swimming hall, and you step into the showers. Bam. there's the looks. Being checked out. Not gay, just males sizing up their competition.

Are you actually autistic or something?

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>>153661838
This

I rub cocks with my friends all the time. No harm in it as long as the balls don't touch.

>>153661850
Don't bother, they're fat fujo/otaku basement dwellers that have never seen anything like a live person beyond their shitty doujins.

>>153653979
This. Watched it 10 years ago and still can't get over it.

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>>153661850
>Who said anything about friends, retard?
>>153661703
>you check out your friends dicks all the time?

It's ok to be gay, anon, no need to get that angry.

>>153661766
Anno's words
>Homoerotic
>Homo
>and Erotic
>Erotic homosexuality
>Sexual same sex interest

>>153661699
How can you claim to be straight when you like a character that looks like a boy?

>>153661846
Thanks.
A shame to forget such masterpiece.

>>153661926
Don't respond to the sexually confused anon, he forgot to take his meds today.

>>153661926
He was pandering to fujos, nothing like that happened in canon

>>153654707
The Eva fan wiki is a good oldstyle compendium of the anime + games

>>153661910
So in other words, you said something about friends.

Anyway you're just butthurt I called you out on your bullshit anyway.

>>153661933
I like a lot of people who are male, I don't discriminate. Rei just happens to be the best girl in Evangelion.

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>>153661870
There is literally nothing wrong in fucking your friend, if you say no homo after.

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>>153662010
You don't even have to say no homo.

Everyone understand slapping cocks with a good buddy or two is as heterosexual as you can get.

>>153661976
You should call up Anno and call him a fujo landwhale, then

>>153662009
>I called you out on your bullshit

Sorry, sexually confused, anon, but I just must correct you.

>Who said anything about friends, retard?(you)
>you check out your friends dicks all the time?
>Yeah, and they look at mine.(you)

Accept yourself, anon, you might feel better.

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>>153662081
He married a fujo, so he might as well be one too.

By the way, Kawoshin is officially gay propaganda.
It's even being advertised in baseball stadiums.

We need to assassinate Anno before Japan's birthrate plummets.

>>153662081
Shinji wasn't sexually attracted to Kaworu in contrast to girls it's as simple as that.

>>153661775
Reifags can't insult anyone

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>>153662169
Japan doesn't agree with you, though
>>>/wsg/1548424

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>>153662071
Pretty much this. Even ancient Greece embraced such manliness, I don't know why people today instantly label it as "gay". Me and my manly bud always embrace each other this way. Nothing better than a good ass-pounding with your bro's thick veiny cock.

>>153662150
Anno and homosexuality is saving mankind. Overpopulation is a serious problem

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>>153662232
Yes, Kaworu and Shinji are clearly engaging in Roman rituals when they suck each other off in the baths.

Nothing out of the ordinary.

>>153658656
I still don't know if I completely buy Shinji being the cause of N3I in 2.22. All the shit with Lilith coming to life, and fusing with Mark .06 (which also wast taken over by an Angel, I guess), and then being speared to stop whatever was going on happened after Unit-01 was shut down, and sent to orbit.

>>153662150
You're not the one to talk about various propaganda if you're from 56%

>>153662307
Everywhere except Japan, yeah.

>>153662224
See >>153661766

>>153661850
>Anon is that one retard at the gym that stares into people's dicks for no reason
Americans should be gassed

>>153660671
It looks better than what it did when he was younger. To me, he looked like Hideo Kojima glued a handful of pubes to his face. He at least cleaned it up a little now.

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>>153662312
On the other hand, they just prove their superior masculinity.
Who needs a mad pussy when your friend's deep roads always there to help you.

>>153662009
Asuka is the best girl.

Rei is an emotionless toilet.

>>153662347
It would have happened anyway, Shinji actually saved all of mankind from being wiped out

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>>153662422
Yes, I think we should all follow in Shinji's manly footsteps and disregard pussy for qt angel boipussy.

>>153659632
That slider is way too big.

>>153662427
Rei is the best girl.

Asuka is an emotionless toilet.

ref. the scene where she's used as a cum-toilet by Shinji, showing no emotion at all.

Canon, bitch.

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>>153662514

>>153662312
>>153662232
>>153662224
>>153662150
>>153662071
>>153662010
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>>153662456
>>153661910
Fujos are the worst, they can't give straight answer without shitposting, therefore your arguments are invalid, Shinji is heterosexual.

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>>153662514
>Rei has emotion comparable to a character in a coma
The absolute STATE of Reifags

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Shinji is canonically bisexual

>>153662706
Wrong, you literally can't prove it with canon of the show

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>>153662690
If the truth hurts you so much you probably should go watch some other manly show like SAO or something.

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>>153662690
Doesn't change the fact that only sex with Kaworu made him happy.

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>>153662770
（笑笑）

>>153662791
SAO features a trap, it would make him feel even more insecure.

>>153662690
Shinji got his first boner with Pen-Pen ;^)

>>153662578
>>153662691
Asukafags: BTFO again.

Again revealed as butthurt cunts mad at Rei being superior to Asuka.

>>153662852
To be fair, pen-pen has a nice ass

>>153662514
>>153662691
It's funny cause it's true.
Reifags btfo once again.

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>>153662950
As if Gendo wasn't creepy enough already.

>>153656270
but was she really implying she's disgusted with shinji?
IIRC according to asuka's jap voice actor Anno told her it was about morning sickness, and even if that wasn't true why would she caress his face if she was disgusted with him?

>>153662950
Fuck, Mansuko is so hot

>>153662919
It's true that Asuka was a semen toilet in the hospital, canonically, while showing no emotion.

Stop projecting your shitty redhead waifu's failures onto Rei. please.

>>153663028
>according to asuka's jap voice actor Anno told her it was about morning sickness
No, according to asuka's jap voice actor it what she was disgusted over someone fapping to her.

She caressed his face to parallel Yui caressing his face a minute before

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>>153662950
>>153663071
Male Rei looks like shit, but Male Asuka looks great

Asuka wins again

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>>153662706
Everyone knows this except closet fags

>>153663028
>That fucking rumour
No, it was Tiffany Grant who said that, the western voice actors are fucking retarded. That line came to fruition when Anno asked Miyamura what she would think if a stranger came into her room and masturbated over her. She said "Disgusting" Anno's a huge creep. The original line was going to be "I won't someone like you kill me!" or something but he wasn't satisfied with he performance

>>153663168
let someone**

>>153663074
>>153663168
>asuka was disgusted by shinji jerking off over her in come
assuming she was aware of that, and that was the reason she said that last line, why would she caress him?
>to make a parallel with something she most likely wouldn't know about that conveyed a very different meaning from what she was supposedly feeling (disgust)
dunno it seems a long shot

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There must always be an Eva thread on the front page. Otherwise, the Jaguar will devour the sun.

Empty conjunction about the sexuality of Eva character pleases the heavens.

>>153663480
>I had been thinking directors should convey their ideal how the show shold be to us. But Anno pitchs us questions such as “What do you think for yourself if things went on such and such ways to you?”
>After recording all lines of the movie, I was called to the studio because the final line needed to be revised. Ogata came there too as it was Asuka and Shinji’s scene.
>Asuka’s final line was “Anta nankani korosareru nowa mappira yo!” in the film
>“I’d never want to be killed by you of all people, absolutely not!”
scenario. Annno didn’t live with my line no matter how many times I tried. Ogata and
>I were at a loss how we should play what Annno wanted to express; she even
tried to ride on me and choke me to meet his demand. He must have been pursuing reality.
>Concerning the final line we adopted, I’m not sure whether I should say about it in fact.
>At last Anno asked me ” Miyamura, just imagine you are sleeping in your
bed and a stranger sneaks into your room. He can rape you anytime as you are
asleep but he doesn’t. Instead, he masturbates looking at you, when you wake
up and know what he did to you. What do you think you would say?”
>I had been thinking he was a strange man, but at that moment I felt disgusting. So
>I told him that I thought “Disgusting”. And then he sighed and said “… thought as much.” He said. ” I thought as much. “

>NHK interview, March 28th

>>153663480
Because she accepts him, but she still thinks he's disgusting. And by saying it was a parallel to Yui touching him, it doesn't mean she was aware of that scene. It just means itwas a moment of genuine affection.
Shinji choking her = Resentment and anger
Her stroking him = Empathy
"How disgusting" = Negative emotions take over again
How their relationship will always be, because of the Hedgehog's Dilemma

>>153663504
It's damn 2017 do you think /a/ can survive without a couple of eva threads on the front page?

>>153663480
Yui caresses Shinji in the exact same way.
It's supposed to symbolize that people can learn to be kind to each other, there is hope.

It's not really a scene specific to asuka and shinji, but a message on humanity itself and to the audience.

Shinji is amazing

>>153663893
Yes

>>153663893
Stop posting Kaworu

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>all this Shinji x Kaworu posting and no one posts Sadamoto's greatest work

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>>153663977

>>153664120
NOOOOOOOO THAT KISS WAS BAD JUST LIKE THE A/S KISS (DROVE A WEDGE BETWEEN THEM)

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>>153663529
alright so that was the meaning of the phrase, how does that sit with her caressing shinji, and more so how would the original line sit with her caressing shinji?
>>153663724
alright so that was the meaning of the caress, how does that sit with the fact that asuka says she's disgusted?

they don't seem to sit right with each other
a possible explanation would be that Anno is a hack, but a lot of other stuff he did made sense so I'd be inclined to think there's an explanation that makes sense

Post Kaworu's reaction when Shinji starts calling him Daddy in the bedroom

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>>153664250
>>153663665

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>>153664250
You can be nice to someone and still be disgusted by them.
The point is they're taking the first baby step. There is hope.

And if even people as fucked up as them can, then so can you.
The point is it's supposed to encourage you, the audience member, to continue living in reality and communicate with people.

>>153663665
>negative emotions take over again
so you're saying after that much fucking time when asuka almost only gave him shit, she finds some empathy right when she's being choked, and and right after that she starts giving him shit again and negative feelings take over again?
I would think if she had found some empathy for shinji it wasn't due to her being strangled, and if she had found some I don't think him stopping strangling her and crying would make her negative feelings take over again

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>>153664120
>Sadahomo's greatest work
>not Cassino

>>153664425
No one wants to see a boy crying on their boobs. That's disgusting

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>>153664491
>implying they aren't the same person

>>153664425
Whatever happened in Instrumentality made her understand others (and herself) more

>>153663665
>How their relationship will always be, because of the Hedgehog's Dilemma
as I understand it, the fact that asuka caressed shinji and he stopped choking her means they got over that dilemma, or they're getting over it at least
bear with me, for the whole fucking series both shinji and asuka wanted, on top of everything, for people to be nice to them and to care for them and to accept them and be proud of them and hold them in high regard
because of that exact reason, shinji acts like a pussy and asuka acts like a bitch, shinji tries to impress his father and asuka lists for kaji's dick, but it's pretty much the same
for this still, in I don't remember what scene, asuka keeps repeating that she hates shinji because she wanted him to be nice to her and he never did, because he was a pussy, and in that scene in shinji's mind he shows how much he hates asuka because he needed her and she only gave him shit, because she was a bitch
getting over that, by caressing shinji for asuka and by "not choking her" for shinji, and would seem a pretty important step forward

>>153664915
But she still said "How disgusting". They didn't overcome it right then (But they could in the future. But they will still continue to hurt each other a lot)

>>153662950
Shinji is so cute as a girl

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>>153665359
The cutest.

>>153653791
>Where would the story go from here if it had continued?
fanfiction.net
asking this question is a pet peeve of mine. enjoy where the story fucking ended ffs

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>>153665359
It's his final form

>>153665426
>>153665520
Oh shit

>>153665051
this bothers me deeply, I can't figure why she would have caressed him if they didn't overcome it or at least tried to
fuck you hideki anno

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>always eva threads in the catalog
>they all turn into arguments about if shinji is gay

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>>153664120

>>153666285
Blame the closet homo Reifag.

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>>153666371

>>153666376
You know what, fuck you people. All I said was the goddamned facts, that straight people do in fact glance over at each others dicks. This was WAY, WAY AFTER you shitfuckers had started your argument.

>>153666495
You're a homo bro, get over it

>>153666285
Just that one closet fag

please stop posting the worst fucking show in the world

fuck you

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>>153666628
No need to get so angry. Accept yourself, buddy. I'm sure you'll find some qt guy to love you.

>>153666701
I want to rub my cock while I watch Kaworu rub Shinji's cock

>>153666916
I want Shinji to fuck Kaworu until his tongue sticks out of his mouth like all the other hentai girls

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>>153667375
Ah, just like my doujins.

>>153667683
Kaworu is the slut instead

>>153653791
When will we see actual * The end of evangelion* in the a?

>>153669878
There will be no "actual end" the rebuilds will go on for another 20 years.

>>153653791
Rebuild movies. But they are fucking shit so it might be better to ignore them.

>>153665520
shinju a trannu

>>153670035
Then. i want to see a new rise of Eva.

>>153653791
Off to fanfiction.net with you, already!

>>153653851
Nice meme

>>153654291
What does giant naked Rei taste like

>>153654569
I want some kind of post-third impact iteration of Eva. Until you come to me and the rebuilds after 2.0 just look so nice because of the beautiful red scenery

>>153654647
>he thinks Eva has a lack of story

>>153655612
>>153659640
EoE and the TV ending are obviously about different things. They're parallel but the TV ending is about learning to love yourself, not enduring the harshness of life. EoE also isn't unnecessary in any way since it explains some of the imagery of the TV ending. EoE was already being storyboarded/animated when 25 and 26 were being made as you can tell from the next episode previews towards the end of the series.
Anyone who believes 25 & 26 are better than EoE I can maybe understand but if you think EoE is unnecessary you're literally retarded

>>153656372
Kaji wasn't even better, Sadamoto just gave him unneeded backstory.

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>>153656270
Because the last time they met he was jerking it hard style. Or the fact that she had to fight the battle by herself and was rekt because of it.

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>>153657496
/ptg/ is pretty comfy at times. Eva references all the time.

>>153676729
B-but Kaji was fake deep in the anime and only talked about how different women and men were
In the manga he is disillusioned and actually makes me sympathize with him

>>153675863
Raw flesh, along with the tangy sweetness of the LCL

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>>153667846
Karl a slut

>>153653791
Shinji chokes Asuka to death. He wanders dead earth for 3 dies and dies of hunger.
Fin.

>>153653791
Pass me the bottle.

>>153653791
Nothing happens. They lie like this for an eternity, Shinji watering Asuka's breasts with his tears and Asuka coldly glaring down at him, representing the struggle of connection and understanding, thus becoming the true proof of humanity's existence.

>>153677533
lies

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So what do you think that Asuka did in Intrumentality and what made her decide to come back?

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>>153680670
>Oh shit, Kaji's not as perfect as I thought he was now that I saw his deepest darkest secret
>Shinji's being a little bitch, I think I'll go back so I can make fun of him

>>153680670
Well there was no one to represent hope or love to her. Just means she has a very strong will

>>153680670
She grew a love for herself and life when she realized her mother was with her the entire time she piloted the eva, which is obvious by her expressions when she dismantles the military, so she had the strength of heart to bring herself back in the end

You haven't finished it. Now you have to rewatch it to pick out new things.

>>153680974
>>153681324
So she doesn't love Kaji after all, she could have spent eternity with her mother and Kaji.

girl doesn't even know what she wants.

>>153680670
>tfw no extra animated shorts showing the internal journeys of each of the main characters inside Instrumentality

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>>153681462
I think that was only temporary relief, she was still very upset in instrumentality.

Does this look like someone who has fixed their problems?

>>153684720
She had time to reflect in the LCL

>>153684720
more than one problem anon. more than one

>>153684720
Well I think its just natural that she's upset in that scene, since just moments earlier she experienced her guts being ripped out and eaten alive by the MP evas. Who wouldn't be upset after that? I still don't think that changes the fact that she loved herself, she was just incredibly hurt by her experience

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>>153684914
>>153685001
>>153685107
She was specially hurt by Shinji though, also she didn't full love herself yet. Considering she puts herself down in intrumentality in episode 25.

>>153685409
That scene definitely corresponds to the moments where she barely awakens inside the eva at the bottom of the lake which is, again, before she found love for herself. Also, she's the one who teaches shinji in the hell's kitchen scene in episode 26 "You're all you've got and you never even learned to like yourself!" Which proves that she knows and understands the importance of this truth

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>>153685409
>That scene definitely corresponds to the moments where she barely awakens inside the eva at the bottom of the lake which is

She was dead during this, Instrumenality is for episode 25. Asuka still hates herself.

In the kitchen in EOE is just Asuka redirecting it when Shinji said he wanted to help her, She was insulted when he said he understands her.

She was still very much depressed and going through alot of problems.

>>153687090
>>153686812
misquoted, my bad.

>>153687090
>she was dead during this
definitely doesn't seem like it to me, since that's the exact same pose she has at the bottom of the lake, which is when she was alive right before she realizes her mother was with her, and instrumentality is not for episode 25 its episode 26

>She was insulted when he said he understands her and wanted to help her
nope, she gets pissed because he says "I need you to help me," and she flips because he's being a dumb faggot and doesn't realize that he needs to love himself before he can receive love from others

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>>153687805
The point is she feels useless she if can't pilot her EVA, her revelation about her mother only temporary fixes this. Asuka still looks to find herself in other people.

>nope, she gets pissed because he says "I need you to help me,

He says "I want to be of help to you, I want to stay with you for all time" when he enters hells kitchen.

>she flips because he's being a dumb faggot and doesn't realize that he needs to love himself before he can receive love from others

She flips because he pretends to understand her, but that pisses her off. She thinks never understood her, she calls him arrogant for suggesting so.

>>153684720
Wait was this the "Asuka in Shinji's mind" or was this real Asuka?

>>153688886
I'm guessing its in intrumentality, but it could be his mind, Rei/Lilith playing games with Shinji or its the way perceived the kiss.

>>153688588
Asuka wants to be alone when shes in the hell kitchen but Shinji comes out of nowhere saying "I want to be wigh you forever"
When Asuka calls Shinji out (because she knows he's full of shit), Shinji reverts to begging for Asuka’s help, yelling help me over and over again without listening to what Asuka is saying. Asuka, in turn, shoves Shinji to the ground, says that Shinji “never even learned to love yourself,” and refuses to listen to what Shinji is saying. It’s the ultimate breakdown of communication, but Asuka is giving Shinji advice; she attempts to break through Shinji’s filtered reality, advising that Shinji learn to love. Shinji doesn’t want to listen to anything outside of the carefully filtered reality that Shinji has constructed mentally and internally Shinji responds by cutting Asuka off, by choking her, by silencing her, because people silence that which threatens their manufactured version of reality
Asuka needs to learn she can't be 100!!% independent and Shinji has to learn not to be 100% dependent

>>153689299
The amusing thing is that Asuka isn't capable of love. Love means to open your heart and soul, but she refuses to do so.

>>153689551
Yes in 26(?) Rei calls her out on that shit.

>>153688588
>her revelation about her mother only temporary fixes this
And, wheres the evidence for this? You have shown nothing that points to this

>He says "I want to be of help to you, I want to stay with you for all time" when he enters hells kitchen.
Yes, but those are nothing but suck-up words to get her in a good mood before he makes his REAL plea to her, which is "I need you to help me." Watch the scene again, "I NEED YOU TO HELP ME" are the words that really trigger her and anyone who refutes this is delusional

>She flips because he pretends to understand her,
No she fucking doesn't. In response to the quote "I want to help you" she tells him "leave me alone, all you do is hurt me." Her tone of voice in this passage is calm and reserved, definitely not "flipping" out. You can still love yourself even if others hurt you, because its the outsider being a dumb faggot, not yourself. After this he says "I need you to help me" and THIS is when she flips out and tells him he needs to learn to love himself before he can ask for her help

>she calls him arrogant
this never happens, she calls him a coward - "I need you!" "Liar, you're scared of everyone else and now just you're running to me"

If you can't even quote the show correctly "instrumentality is episode 25!" "she flips when he says I want to be with you!" "she calls him arrogant!" how can you expect others to take your interpretation seriously?

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>>153689812
Episode 25 takes place after the battle with the MP Evas. She's already inside intrumentality, I've already posted screenshots of quotes from Rei on Asuka.

>No she fucking doesn't

Watch after Kaji and Misato have sex in Intrumentality, she decides to do it even though Misato tells her not to. This is when she first flips out on him in EOE:

Asuka: "I wonder If I'll do the kind of thing Misato does when I grow up?"

Asuka: "Hey, lets kiss."

Misato: "You can't!"

Asuka: "Or are you scared?"

Misato: "Its not something kids should do."

Asuka: "Okay, here goes."

Asuka: "You don't understand anything! Don't get close to me!"

Shinji: "I know."

Asuka: "No you don't! You idiot! You think you can understand me?! Do you think you can help me?! That's nothing but your conceited ego! You couldn't possibility understand me!

Shinji: "How can I? You don't say anything. You don't talk to me. Its impossible to understand!"

Rei: "Ikari-kun, did you try to understand?"

Shinji: "I did."

Asuka: "You moron. I know all about your jerk off fantasies about me. Go ahead and do it like you always do. I'll stand here and watch you. If I can't have you all to myself, I don't want anything from you!"

>this never happens

see above

>>153691356
continue

>>153691356
>episode 25 takes place after the battle with the MP Evas.
Why are you so intent on misquoting this show? Episode 25 most certainly does not "take place after the battle with the MP Evas." The episode ENDS with the MP Eva battle. Jesus christ. I can only conclude that you're on one at this point.

I meant that never happens in the Hell's kitchen scene, which was the focus until you decided to pull up this scene here.

Look, in the end Yui says "Everyone can return to their human form as long as they are able to imagine themselves within their own heart." So basically, you need a strong heart. Asuka had one, why? Because she loved herself.

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>>153691356
>Asuka: "No you don't! You idiot! You think you can understand me?! Do you think you can help me?! That's nothing but your conceited ego! You couldn't possibility understand me!
I always saw it as Asuka talking to the audience here, to her fans.

They think they can help her just be being nice to her and make her love them.
She's calling them out on not understanding her and just using her as fapping fuel.

>>153694844
That was just one person.

>>153693858
Episode 25 takes place during intrumentality, you moron.

>So basically, you need a strong heart. Asuka had one, why? Because she loved herself.

Which took a month for her to do, it was a struggle for her to so. Shinji was alot easier, but he probably had experience because he reforming himself from an LCL from in Unit 01.

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>>153695267
>>153693858
That doesn't necessarily mean she loved herself. She just came to understand herself, and her desire to live was strong.

The final scene shows she can take the first steps in loving herself and others, but it's a long way ahead. This is just the first baby step. It's an ending of hope.

>>153695267
>Episode 25 takes place during instrumentality
>moron!
It takes place in episode 26 you delusional clown, what the hell are you talking about?

>>153695838
What are YOU talking about? I have the Sephirotic NGE+EOE directors cut bluray right with me right now, I clearly see episode 25 and reference to intrumentality in this episode.

>>153653791
Overrated trash, not even bait.

>>153660241
Sake is such shit.