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Lets hope Oda doesn't give Zoro an arc like this.
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Just a quick reminder Nami uses -kun with Sanji in affectionate way. She dropped it when he broke her heart, but she still uses it when he is not around. They will make up and everything will go back to normal
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Is Basil stronger than Sanji?
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There are people who seriously, honestly, unironically, totally, completely think SanjixNami won't be canon soon.
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>>153648038
What kind of arc could zoro get in the future aside from generic "MUST GET STRONGER" stuff?

Everyone important to him is dead so he won't have any surprise family visits or anything. The only thing I could see happening is something with Mihawk but, since Mihawk is just a teacher, it would be "MUST GET STRONGER" stuff...
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Reminder Sanji and Nami are the 2 hottest crewmembers.
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New SaNami art! Post them
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>>153648294
>tumblr
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>>153648038
>zoro
>character development
Fuck Zoro. Oda ruined him. Zoro started out as a demon who would do anything to reach his goal and fulfill his promise. Though he was loyal to Luffy and liked him, he wouldn't have hesitated to cut Luffy down for the sake of becoming the greatest swordsman.

But by the time of Thriller Bark and beyond, Zoro became a generic

> I'LL GLADLY GIVE MUH LIFE FOR MUH NAKAMA

shounen stock character. Zoro will never have an arc like this, because Zoro doesn't have a character. He's been reduced to one-dimension.
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Zoro arc is next and it's going to be fantastic.
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God damn this SaNafag is annoying. He spams every thread.

Literally worse than the Monetfag.
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Does anyone else realize that this is bege's best chance to steal a poneglyph? And not just a running but the poneglyph itself, by shoving it into his body. If he actually accomplishes it then he'll be the second closest supernova to being pirate king (1st being luffy) Furthermore, supernova who's closest to finding one piece ranking
1. Monkey D Luffy (zou road poneglyph and big mamu poneglyph)
2. Trafalgar D Water Law (zou road poneglyph)
3. Drake barrels (why would he betray the marines, people who helped him if he didn't want to find one piece??? You think he just became a pirate to rape and pillage???)
4. Capone bege (boutta steal her poneglyph)
5. Scratchmen Apoo (see below)
6. Urouge(already trying to sneak onto territories and beating up there commanders for some poneglyphs)
7.hawkins (MIA????)
8. Jewellery Bonney (I honestly don't know)
9. Eustass kidd (he originally was pretty high up in my list with his alliances and shit, but now that he's getting raped on the regular, he'll be plucky if he can even be seen as a man by his crew. Furthermore, the man has lost an arm and has a scar. I don't think he's ready for the new world)
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>>153648260
>Implying
Zoro arrived at the dojo at like 8
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>>153648260
The only thing I can think of is somehow weakening himself to save Luffy in someway. Him avenging Mihawk would be nice but fairly generic

His priorities are Luffy>his dream>The crew
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>>153648335
He's still a "bad guy" in the context of that page.

His whole hesitation wasn't that Luffy would get in the way of his goals it's that he would have to become a pirate after years of hunting pirates to make a name for himself while staying within the law.
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>>153648457
He was born and raised their moron
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Nami is honestly a celestial dragon.
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>>153648431
fuck you and your pic
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>>153648431
>I'm expecting serious replies with that pic
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>>153648425
What's wrong, sweetie???
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>>153648260
>What kind of arc could zoro get in the future aside from generic "MUST GET STRONGER" stuff?

Why does Tashigi look so much like his dead childhood friend? I've always figured that eventually they'd have to answer that ever since she appeared.
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>>153648506
Fuck you faggot
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>>153648273
>sanji
>hotter than robin
not in a million years
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>>153648594
>Fuck you faggot

Nice argument there buddy
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>>153648577
Is it unreasonable that it'd be a coincidence?
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ODA, WHERE'S MY NIGGA ZORO?
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>>153648260
>What kind of arc could zoro get in the future aside from generic "MUST GET STRONGER" stuff?
Make it so Luffy's quest interferes with or makes his own dream impossible. Zoro is the most loyal member, so a bit of doubt and introspection would do his character good.
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>>153648260

But we still don't know anything about Zoro's past. Unless he literally just spawned in front of the dojo with a wooden sword in his hand he must have come from SOMEwhere.

Though since we've not had any hints about it thus far, it might mean his origins are simply too mundane to go into.

Still, Tashigi must exist for a reason, so maybe there's still something to find out.

That girl from his past (whatever her name was) died because she 'fell down some stairs'? Yeah, okay.

>>153648431

Second closest is still too far away.

Few outside of Zou or Wano one of the Road Poneglyphs is on Zou's back, and of those in the New World, only Buggy and Shanks probably know where the fourth stone is hidden.

Really, Luffy is pretty much the only person with a decent shot at reaching Raftel, unless someone literally just stumbles across the last stone.

For all we know, Shanks (or Roger) made a copy of the Poneglyph, and then dropped the stone into the sea so NOBODY could find Raftel unless he let them.
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>>153648651
Better than your headcanon
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Canon soon
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>>153648543
>ONE PIECE IS REAL!

Would Luffy have accepted that as WB believing in a dream
Or would he have quit being a pirate as if Rayliegh had said it?
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>>153648525
>>153648544
Can y'all explain why??? Like is it tearjerking or something? I mean its kinda like in final fantasy 7 When red 13 and Vincent visit their friends graves ya know?
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>>153648826

Well Whitebeard never went to Raftel, so he's just taking Roger's word for it. I don't think Luffy would think much of it.
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>>153648763

I dunno, I like how mundane Zoro's origins are compared to everyone else. That he could get so far (and we've got to assume eventually reach the top) just because of a promise he made to Kuina whilst carrying her sword is a nice enough story as is.

Maybe we need an explanation for his gag, though. We had Duval, but I guess it could be fun to discover whether Zoro's bad sense of direction is actually a curse or something.
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>>153648751
That already happened and he chose Luffys dream over his own without hesitating
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>>153648751
That's actually a pretty good idea...
>put in another situation like with Kuma
>for whatever reason he must sacrifice an arm to save the crew
>completely changes his style to iaido to compensate
>many jokes to be made about sanji passing him in strength because he's basically starting over
>"I don't need two arms to beat you huehuehue"
I'd buy that for a dollar.
>>153648763
Well he showed up at the dojo because he didn't have a family for whatever reason. I guess that can be looked into.
Maybe kaido somehow killed his parents when he was a babby and he doesn't find out until he meets him?
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>>153648956

We had Duval for Sanji's bounty gag, rather. My bad.
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>>153648964
I mean for real anon
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Zoro's dream is stupid. Who cares about some dead bitch?
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>>153649038
Most of their dreams are stupid.
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this is easily the worst arc
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>>153649091
All of their dreams are acceptable, excluding Zoro.
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>>153648998
I reckon Zoro has descendents from Wano or something like that
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>>153648956
>Ryoga and Zoro reading a map together
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Do you think Chaka and Pell have master haki yet? What about Vivi?
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>>153649147
Why?
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>>153649182
Because women are physically inferior to men, so it's stupid to make a promise to compete with a woman like that in the first place, so becoming the best in her place or whatever doesn't make sense because she would never be the best.
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Tashigi is a dull character too. Diving more into all that just doesn't seem interesting to me.
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>>153649150

Actually you might be right. We're absolutely gonna get Wano reacting to him carrying around Shusui considering that Kin'emon already called him on it, but it's not too much of a stretch that someone might think he's descended from Ryuma considering the resemblance.
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>>153649147
Luffy's dream is to essentially be the king of criminals.
Nami wants to map the world by sailing in a line around the equator.
Franky wants to build a nice boat.
Sanji wants to find a bunch of fucking fish.
Usopp wants to ride the coat tails of everyone else and pretend he did something to show off to his dad.

Etc etc etc

They're all retarded.
That's part of the fun.
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>>153646758
If Oda wanted to write believably, then pretty much everyone in the Revos should be on their way to learning Poneglyphs. Historians are all about sharing knowledge and forwarding human understanding, and especially in One Piece the discipline of History(+Archaeology) has been presented as an unjustly forbidden knowledge. Robin should be wanting to teach her stuff to literally everyone who gives the slightest shit, yet the manga never presents it like that despite it being the most obvious and natural thing ever.
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>>153649293
Your post only outed you as a retard.
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>>153648038
He literally copy pasted Water 7
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>>153649381
Except water 7/enies lobby was fucking amazing.
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>>153649381
You mean Alice in Wonderland.
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>>153649413
Exactly
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>we will never know how pell survived the nuclear explosion
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>>153649503
It's because he's going to be relevant to the plot later. How far out we don't know but I'm assuming it's gonna be when Pluton will be used is Alabasta.
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I wonder if Zoro will even have a deeply personal arc like Sanji's having right now. I mean it could just be that something about Wano makes him get more invested than usual, maybe much more invested than usual, sort of like what Luffy feels every arc when baddie abuses poor innocent friend. But it might not involve personal journey of character development.

Zoro's kinda hard to write without adding a completely new dimension to his character that wouldn't have been there before.
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Year of Jinbe's death
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>>153649586
I hope Oda doesn't make Zoro a member of some ancient samurai family or something
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What arc is the EoE of One Piece?
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>>153648823
Yes please
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>>153649836
I feel like the only crewmembers I would be ok with Oda going all "suddenly past" again are Brook and Franky. Brook is almost like an expectation at this point.

I don't think there's anything interesting to invent about Zoro or Nami's past, trying to make them snowflakes like Sanji would just feel tacked on at this point.
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>>153648176
>>153648823
>>153649959
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>>153649898
those 3 or 4 pages were luffy angsts after the war

the real eoe will be the ending, when they discover that the one piece is the instrumentality switch
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Leave Big Mom to me
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>>153650043
What does this even say?
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>>153650129
Luffy won't get in a relationship
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>>153650152
Wrong.
>>153650129
It says Oda won't do romance because he's writing a Shonen manga, and if you want to read romance you should read a manga for girls.

All it mentions about Luffy is that Oda doesn't mind him being so liked. (And Luffy doesn't mind either)
Not sure what that's supposed to mean.
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>>153648038
he already had that in the floating restaurant nigga
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>>153649586
I'd rather it not be something connected to Zoro's past and rather have it as something that he himself is dealing with for the first time that he doesn't really know how to handle it. It doesn't have to be as deep as Sanji's, but something that can develop his character
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>>153650374
Lear nip you fucking retard.
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If you faggots read the databooms you would know that one piece:red stated zoro was born and raised in shimotsuki village
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>>153650408
No you.
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>>153650474
>Implying they aren't rewritten as Oda feels like it
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>>153648425
There's also that Jinbe death guy.
We get it, he död. Stop spamming.
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>>153648425
>>153650671
why do you guys care so much

i dont't even realize there are "spammers" because it's such a small noise in the threads. it's not like snk generals where nobody talks about the manga so the only posts are garbage tumblr stuff and memes
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>>153650404
I feel like Oda wrote himself into a wall with Zoro with his declaration that he will never lose again coupled with two years of training with the greatest swordsman in the world, someone who thought Shanks was too weak to duel. No one else had a mentor of that magnitude outside Luffy. I'm not sure what challenges he can face that would let him have any development while not insulting his tutelage.
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>>153648431
Gay and lame. Heres a better ranking with all pirates in the new world who are close to being at raftel

1 strawheart alliance
3 kaido
4 big meme
5 The rest of the supernova
6 Blackbeard
7 gekko moria
8 crocodile
9 Don krie
10.Doffy
11 hody
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>>153648038
>tfw I didn't watch or read One Piece since "WE GO!" Opening
Is this Enies Lobby Robin 2.0?
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>>153650944
Well it'll have to be a challenge Zoro can't just solve by fighting.
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>after all these years Jinbei finally shows up and "joins"
>the spotlight is literally on everything and everyone except him

wew
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I WANNA SLICE
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The final poneglyph will be in Reverie and the SH fleet + Revolutionary army will invade it Whitebeard style and succeed
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>>153650944

It would've been more interesting to pair Zoro up with Diamante at Dressrosa.
Especially since Diamante seems to be an underhanded character who also uses "wavy" trick moves to swordfight.
It would make it more difficult to clash swords and connect hits.

Instead we got Zoro dicing up rocks for like 10+ chapters and then a mandatory "my haki is stronger than yours" crap.
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>>153651016
>6 Blackbeard
His hobby is studying history. He is definitely 2.
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>>153651016
>>153651325
0 Eneru with Moon's Army and he learned Haki weapon type to bypass everything with his thunder
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>>153648335
>there's actually people with opinions this bad that somehow think Zoro's near-sacrifice on Thriller Bark wasn't a master piece in itself
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>>153651296
But the whole thing was that the Dofla family were weakass shitters, at least compared to the SHs... Zoro would've destroyed someone like Diamante in 5 seconds, Pica at least made it, precisely, into something that he couldn't just bruteforce his way through. The finisher stuff with the Haki was eh, but the bulk of the fight wasn't about that really.
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>>153651451

I don't like any variant of the "it's shit on purpose" as an explanation why something is shit.
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>>153651277
I'm still clinging to my idea that it will be BB+Revos, Baltigo was a ruse. Dragon shouldn't be a goody good guy, some greyness to him by allying with someone as reckless as BB would be cool. Besides, if Kuzan was okay with it, then surely there must be some redeeming/nuancing factor about it
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>>153651451

Zoro vs Pica is one of the least interesting fights in the entirety of the manga.
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>>153651489
I didn't say it was shit on purpose, I said the exact opposite, Pica's ability was much better used to give Zoro something interesting to do. Diamante would just be weak-ass generic stuff for a Zoro fight, and he would still have been way too strong for it to feel like a real challenge.

>>153651548
It's better than the other fights Zoro has gotten post-TS where he is just a fucking joyless cool quip drone; even if it isn't really that good overall.
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>>153651451
>into something that he couldn't just bruteforce
What? Pica fight was the definition of bruteforcing. He literally just kept cutting him until Pica had nowhere left to go.
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>>153651548
It's because Oda wrote Zoro to the point that he's past the level of fighting grunts. Although hopefully, he'll get some decent fights soon with the caliber of opponents Luffy has been picking fights with.
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>>153649503
i figured it'd be retconned to an awakened devil fruit thing
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>>153648038
>TELL ME HOW YOU REALLY FEEL! ZORO!
>I WANNA CUT!
>Luffy smirks
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>>153651548
The issue is that Zoro is just barely below Luffy post-TS
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>>153651548
That's what happens when you're stuck fighting shitters
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>>153651632
Not really, Pica outsmarted him and led him to the outskirts of the town, and Zoro had to figure out a way to get back and beat him before he destroyed the plateau where basically every important character besides Luffy and Law were standing. The whole using the cannonball throw to go flying and seeing where he went after he cut the rock (because he figured out how the power worked beforehand) is more substance in terms of action than any other post-TS Zoro fight can provide, and at least it shows him in a different mode besides "heh, nothin personnel".

The problem with the fight is that in the end it's not really that interesting or anything, and that like basically everything Dresrossa it was butchered and spread across I dunno, 30 fucking chapters or whatever
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>>153651800
You've nailed exactly the problem of post-TS Zoro, while Luffy fights world renowned opponents in the arcs, Zoro has been getting their shitter grunts. Of course he's going to one-shot or trivialize them.
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>>153651922
Or Skypeia where Luffy tries to run of a beanstalk about 20 times.
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>>153651990
Luffy always gets the final boss. That's his shtick.
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>>153651990
And that boils down more to a problem with Dresrossa specifically, since it's the only arc so far since the TS where we were supposed to believe the SHs were equally matched. Fishman Island and Punk Hazard are shit-tier from the start and any complication came from shenanigans. Now in WCI, where there are foes who should actually be strong to give trouble to the SHs, Zoro isn't there but at least Sanji will get a proper fight I hope. It all comes down to what happens in Wano, a lot of the manga is hinging on that
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>>153652076
I know it was to give the non-Dressrosa Straw Hats their turn in the spotlight and that Chopper himself has stated it pretty much, but it was idiotic not to bring Zoro to a Yonkou's territory.
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>>153652076
Big Mom is way above his league.
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>>153652242
>"Crocodile is way above his league"
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>>153652242
Big Mom definitely, but surely he could have gotten a decent fight from Cracker and his peers.
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>>153648038
zoro's arc if he gets one should just be him fighting every fucking samurai in wano and them acknowledging him. Thats it, just non stop sword fights until the whole country is behind him.
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Zoro will fight and beat Kaidou.
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How far can toei stretch reverie?
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Zoro will get lost in Wano, wander into Kaidou's quarters and they will share a good drink.
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>>153652425
What is Toei doing with the Reverie? I thought we were gonna see it in the manga
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>>153652160
>it was idiotic not to bring Zoro to a Yonkou's territory
good thing the other half of the crew did that then
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>>153652467
I meant that as in today's episode where it was basically alabasta flashbacks.
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>>153648038
>Lets hope Oda doesn't give Zoro an arc like this.

You mean when he faced Mihawk for the first time and cried like a bitch because he lost to a dagger?

Then later down the line. As Zoro degraded himself to Mihawk so he can get stronger?

If anything Zoro's Arc will probably be about how much all that shit made him go nuclear.

Sanji is just being a little bitch because he ended up in some faggot land and got faggot blood in his system.
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WE ALL KNOW ZORO HAS SOME KIND OF NEW SUPER POWER IN HIS EYE JUST OPEN IT ALREADY
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>>153652666
>zoro has the power to sharingan
might be cool.
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>>153652666
I wouldn't even be surprised if Mihawk had eye powers and shit, it's just these threads and everyone in general would explode into such a gigantic shitfest of garbage that I hope Oda doesn't dare go near it
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>>153652734
Oh right, that's what happened. Zoro lost his eye and Mihawk gave him one of his.
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>>153652317
While I don't think it should be his whole arc, it would be nice to see. It'll be like a throwback to his Whiskey Peak fight with the bounty hunters
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>>153652666
Zoro Uchiha
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I used to think Zoro getting two extra heads and four extra arms were ridiculous but apparently there is something similar to that in Buddhism.

>Tulpa is a concept in mysticism of a being or object which is created through sheer spiritual or mental discipline alone. Indian Buddhist texts call it an unreal, illusory, or mind-created apparition.

It makes sense with haki I guess.
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>>153652827
ZORONGAN
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Best pairing! Incredible chemistry in the manga and great doujins!
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Where's the legendary Ara Ara fruit user?
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>>153652915
BLACKED
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>there will be several kings at Reverie who is indebted to a fucking pirate
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>>153652864
>It makes sense with haki I guess.

This is not okay.
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>>153652964
But he is a king.
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>>153653028
Why, lad?
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>>153652535
>there are people watching One Piece who weren't even born when the story was at Alabasta
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>Zoro gets to Wano
>Learns that Samurais there fight entirely different
>An entirely different concept of samurai fighting similar to haki is introduced
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>>153652999
>Luffy
>"a fucking pirate"
he's the chosen one you dingus
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>>153648431

I get the rest in that pic, but who's tomb stone is the one with the dildos and scroll?
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>>153653126
It's just going to be Iaido.
But that's more Brook's specialty so maybe not.
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>>153653110
>there will be people born after the Straw Hats entered the Grand Line who can legally post here later this year
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>>153653205
it's nami's clima tact and maps
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>>153653205
Nami. It's the Clima tact, with navigations map and the orange trees behind.
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>>153652666
He's saving it for The Kaido

The Kaido will finally feel fear when Zoro opens his eye

LEAVE *The KAIDO TO ME
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>>153653387
1v1 kaido won't lose. Luckily Zoro has a demon in him
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>Crew split
>Main yonkou the Straw Hat's are gunning for is Kaido
>Didn't think big mam would be confronted this arc so stopped reading weekly
>It's going to end up with luffy fighting big mam anyway despite everything to the contrary

This arc is fucking gay. Luffy is the worst character in One Piece and the entire arc is mostly about him and these side characters that I give no fucks about are getting the bulk of the screen time. It feels even more weighed down by the fact that after this arc is over, the entire side cast is going to disappear like they always do only to reappear many years later on as a wink and a nod, causing you all to praise Oda's genius for remembering that they existed at all.
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>>153652666
UCHIHA
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I WADDA GOOK !
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>>153653387
Kai D o
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>>153653484
I was surprised Doffy didn't have a D to be honest
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>>153653457
>Luffy is the worst character in One Piece
he's great, what's wrong with you? where did the joy and adventure touch you?
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>Trafalgar "the D is silent" Law
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>>153653387
seriously nobody asked about his eye in the manga yet?
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>>153653532
>Donquixote D. oflamingo
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>>153653387
Why does he insist on using katana?
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>>153653537

>Great
Franky, Brook, Usopp, Zoro, Robin

>Okay
Sanji, Chopper, Nami

>Shit
Luffy

He's the worst because his only thing is doing retarded for comedic effect and NAKAMA. He is the most bland persoanlity of the entire crew and the one person no one wants to hear speak. Oda gives him very few speaking roles, and his tone is always the same. Luffy has no strong opinions for or against ANYTHING. He stands for nothing other than what he wants, and the cast are always caving into his bitch fits cause he is the captain.
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>>153648038
Why the hell did he ask her for cash?
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>>153653571
That'd be a bit rude, I guess. Everyone assume it's due to his training.
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>>153653571
The only reason it hasn't been brought up is because it has a role to play, either magic naruto eyehaxx or some character development
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>>153653805

Twist: His eye is fine, he just closed it as a handy cap.
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>>153653433
>Luffy, I'm already a demon

He truly was punished Zoro.
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>>153653871
>His eye is fine, he just closed it as a handy cap.
We Shura no Toki now?
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>>153651642
Who is left for Zoro to fight?
Mihawk, Shanks, Shiryu, and Killer are all we have to look forward to until someone worthwhile is introduced.
>implying Massacre soldier Killer wouldn't get minced easy
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>>153654177
The Shogun of Wano, possibly a Calamity of Kaidou, that Gorosei dude with a sword, maybe an Admiral.
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>>153653684

>He is the most bland persoanlity of the entire crew and the one person no one wants to hear speak. Oda gives him very few speaking roles, and his tone is always the same. Luffy has no strong opinions for or against ANYTHING. He stands for nothing other than what he wants, and the cast are always caving into his bitch fits cause he is the captain.

This is nothing new. All really big shows, books, stories etc have a bland, generic main character. This lets the viewer/reader project themselves onto the character and have an identifiable, relatable person in the story.
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>>153653735
Brook is barely sane, who knows what goes on inside his head
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>>153654177
There are only 2 out of the 12 top tier swords introduced and we don't even know who uses one of them

He'll also defeat Kizaru
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>>153653735
>Caimie
I liked it more when she was the civilian friend of the arc and not 'muh princess'

I also liked it more when Wicca was the dwarf and not 'muh princess'

What the fuck's wrong with Oda and princesses. Can't he just make a couple heavy BDSM porn of it and get it out of his system?
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>>153654370
The poneglyph. Yohohohoho
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>>153654370
He is a skellington, his head is empty!
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>>153651548
I was pretty into the idea of cutting a giant in perfect, smaller pieces. It was short and interesting enough.
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>"let's go to the New World" they said
>"it'll be fun" they said
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>>153654717
Luffy and Law are fine now you asshole
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>>153651548
I didn't mind it until Pica casually pulled out full body haki like it was nothing

Vergo was stated as having a particularly strong haki and it seemed like full body was something special and uncommon

and then the guy Zoro beat with complete ease utilizes it
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>>153654717
>the irrelevant generation
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What happened to Moocy?
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>>153654717
I remember back when I was hyped for Kid and Luffy to fight, and for Kid to do more shit.

But now he's trapped as Kaido's fucktoy. How times change.
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>>153648677
oda wouldn't pull another sabo right? OR WOULD HE
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>>153655001
Emergency food when they ran low during the Straw Hat Fleet feast
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>>153655001
Abdullah and Jeet probably ate it
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>>153648998
>he goes full shiki and franky builds him a sword arm
i want it
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Could you even imagine something like this happening in current OP? Not only do we now know the Sea Kings are benevolent, the powerlevels are so jacked up it wouldn't even matter. The monster trio guys making these faces? they wouldn't even flinch at this. Any strong enough crew should be able to just sail through the Calm Belt without much trouble.
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>>153655039
>>153655049
>>153655080
ODAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>153655183
>sail through the Calm Belt
>sail
>Calm Belt
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>>153655183
hmm, why dosent pirate crews just skip the grand line and get to raftel by climbing over the red line ??
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>>153655288
whatever
>>153655366
also, there's also this thing where stealing one of those marine ships with seastone would be piss easy for lots of crews, since a lot of the time there's not even real deal people aboard. Maybe we will see some of that, actually, since the yonko seem to be able to travel anywhere without much effort.
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>>153653735
Because he can tell she isn't wearing any panties. But then he asked Shirahoshi to show him hers... unless that was an anime-only moment?
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>>153655183
We only know for sure that some Sea Kings are intelligent and that doesn't mean they're benevolent to humans.

High level pirates can probably sail through the calm belt but at that level they're probably just looking for the Road Poneglyphs. It wouldn't be as easy of a journey as you make it sound, Sea Kings are still pretty tough and could easily destroy the ship or get a lucky bite like with Shanks.

Despite always jobbing onscreen there were even random wild animals on that random island in the Calm Belt who were stronger than Luffy without Gear 4.
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>>153648431
>Nami gets three dildos
Of course
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>>153652666
Satan confirms.
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>>153648335
>Thinks one-dimensional characters are bad
>Complains about Zoro actually getting character development

You're a special kind of retard, aren't you?
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>>153648038
God forbid Oda finally gives Zoro some depth.
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>tfw no chapter until march

JUST
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>>153656762
11 days :L
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Huys, what if Pudding can already read the ponegliffs? She's planning to betray Mom with Capone's help (and maybe some external party, like zehahaha) and get a head start as a yonkou-tier superpower, with Capone getting the clone army
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>>153649959
>Sanji cutting out the cola
NIGGA WHAT
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>>153654528
Kek
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>>153655288
Yes, if Rayleigh's boat hadn't have sank on the Grand Line he would have sailed to Amazon Lily. You know Rowboats and motorboats exist, right?
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>>153649239
>Assuming individual in One Piece world give a shit about human limit.
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Requesting the pandaman pic with the red background.
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>>153655888
The sea king that bit off shanks arm was BTFO by 1punch when Luffy started his travel. ( when he was at his weakest) Kind of retarded how Shanks managed to lose his arm like that.
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>>153657372
You know the vast majority of pirates in this series don't have those right

Using Rayleigh as a barometer for anything is also stupid because he's one of the strongest and most capable characters
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>>153648038
Zoro has never been placed in an emotionally compromising position. His backstory was the most bland, and all his trials have been how much pain he can endure.

That said, I would like to see Zoro cry one day. I dunno.
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>>153658153
He did cry after losing to Mihawk. Also, reread the chapter he joined the crew, then chapter he sacrifices for Luffy, and finally the one he asks Mihawk to train him. Zoro has come a long way, realizing achieving his dream is meaningless if he can't protect those around him, and in the end was capable of not only giving up his life but also pride to help the crew. He was also the one to notice that allowing Usopp to join the crew as if nothing has happened would weaken it (even though you can see he was really happy as Usopp rejoined). Zoro doesn't cry often, but that doesn't me he has no internal conflicts and challenges going on.
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>>153648335
Zoro has been reduced to a Fairy Tail character.
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New opening when?
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>>153658841
Not anytime soon? We just got this one like recently.
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>>153658878
It's all Kaido themed though.
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>>153658878
Not necessarily, Hands Up for example didn't last even 40 episodes, and seeing there's possibilty of a short filler arc now, changing the opening after it to fit BM arc seems possible.
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>>153648335
>I'm going to become the strongest swordsman and kill you if you get in my way
>oh no Bartholomew Kuma, better run away like a little bitch and hope my massive tampon absorbs most of the piss and shit

I'm pretty sure he swore an oath never to lose again. I mean Kuma slapped his shit across the sea and he got roofied by two Sasquatch but the point is that he takes risks or he'll never get stronger.
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>the current state of Toei
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I hope Nami doesn't get raped by the Vinsmoke scum.
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>>153659039
He was fucking exhausted by the time Kuma showed up, and Kuma BTFO'd the entire damn island in a milisecond. It's not at all a situation of losing a duel that Zoro was referring to back at Baratie
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>>153660128
That cant be real
I know Toei's gotten bad, but not THAT bad
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>>153648260
>What kind of arc could zoro get in the future aside from generic "MUST GET STRONGER" stuff?
Some relations true relations with woman.
What will he choose - his dream or just peacefully life somewhere?
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>>153652864
>Tulpa
/x/ reporting in
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>>153652296
>Big Mom definitely, but surely he could have gotten a decent fight from Cracker and his peers.
This is what pisses me off about Cracker. Every other person in BM's crew that's not a sweet commander I can understand them being shit tier compared to Luffy within reason. But Cracker's fight went from "holy shit he's going to make biscuits an OP ability isn't he?" to "Holy shit why couldn't he catch Luffy for 11 hours?" to "Wait, why does balloon stop a blade now?".

The first two chapters of the cracker fight were a rollercoaster. We saw this guy get pressed by Luffy's G4 only to realize he was hiding behind 7000 biscuits. But once he starts going all out we just cut away and the resolution was a wet fart as well as the kind of loss that makes me not respect the character. Oda definitely can write losses that don't diminish the perceived strength of a character (ex. Zoro vs Das) But holy shit do I wonder why Cracker is a big deal to the marines if they can just splash some water on him and send in a single heavy hitter.
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>>153652924
>Ara Ara
http://shipoffools.wikia.com/wiki/Ara_Ara_no_Mi

you asked
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>>153653457
>Luffy
you mean Sanji
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>>153653871
that would be great. He opens his eye and disapears and you're already dead
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>>153661205
The fight and character were pretty weak in execution but in terms of pure powerlevels, Yonkou commanders really shouldn't be a massive roadblock for Luffy at this point in the series. We're gonna have other members of the crew fight them very soon (if not in this very arc, then for sure in Wano), and Luffy is obviously massively ahead of them. Not saying he's "Yonkou level" (is there even a consistent level for all 4 Yonkou?), but he should be head and shoulders above their henchmen. It's what fits.
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>>153660128
>>153660923

Truly amazing stuff.
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>>153661212

>There are five main factors of Weather manipulation:

Air Manipulation - To move clouds or wind.
Electric Manipulation - To effect lightning.
Water Manipulation - Creates rain, snow.
Thermal Manipulation - Make it cold or hot.
Ice Manipulation- Summon cold, blizzards, etc.

Wow, so it would be Enel and Aokiji + 3 other, but BETTER. Being untangible isn't worth shit anymore


I also thought the Ara Ara no mi would be some sort of shitpost fruit with the user constantly going "ara ara, did that hurt?"
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>>153661288
>Yonkou commanders really shouldn't be a massive roadblock for Luffy at this point in the series
I don't necessarily agree but I'm of the camp that Oda didn't sufficiently inform us of what to expect from a Yonkou's actual forces. And that what expectations I do have don't substantiate Luffy being able to take half of his crew, and not even the significant fighting half, into a Yonkou's territory and manage to succeed this well in their goals.

Since I only really have Whitebeard and the fact that the Marines were shitting their pants at the mere thought that any two yonko forming an alliance was a big fucking deal. I always assumed that despite having much larger crews than the MC, they followed something akin to Whitebeard's formula of Captain > Commanders > Notable individuals > grunts. Crocodile also had this structure and Yonko have large territories to protect so it makes sense that their commanders/notable individuals handle the bulk of enforcing boundaries.

Cracker also states that he constantly tussels with the Marines and we've seen what firepower the marines are willing to bring to bear against individuals they think are worth taking in/down. If the only real threat was an enraged BM and all of her other units weren't actually useful it would make no sense why the marines don't start picking off members to prepare her for a full scale assault where they take her down. I had believed that a Yonko's higher officers were themselves incredibly imposing figures and people like Marco/Jozu definitely backed some of that hype up since both required coordinated efforts from vice-admirals/admirals/doflamingo to take down. And even Jack required some extreme measures to stop on both is attempt to rescue Doflamingo, and his latest attempt to take Zou.

Just feels like he should have taken in Luffy since we know BM wanted to kill Luffy after the ceremony anyways.
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>>153660128
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>>153648260
Where exactly did you read about his family being dead?
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>>153661572
>Luffy being able to take half of his crew, and not even the significant fighting half, into a Yonkou's territory and manage to succeed this well in their goals.
Well the thing is this was an infiltration mission to begin with, not a full-frontal assault. Sure they got found out and all, but they didn't go there to fight the full crew of Big Mom, and Big Mom never dispatched that kind of force to deal with them. Them escaping? Jinbe's betrayal. Whatever happens from now on? The inner coup that's brewing. Stuff like outplaying Brulee inside her mirrors or beating Cracker is just about inside the extent of the protagonists' abilities. Not that it's been super well-executed, it still suffers from that thing where Oda fragments the plot threads inside single chapters and weakens the focus on each of them individually as a result by cramming too many things. But in terms of believability I don't think it's doing anything too wrong. For all we know, Cracker's the weakest commander of the weakest Yonkou, with an ability more suited to please Big Mom's eccentricities than pure battlefield dominance (much like a lot of her crew seems to be)
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>>153648431
>this picture
Totally possible. Luffy probably would be the first to go.
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>>153661205

What was wrong with the Cracker fight? The man was really impressive, strongest opponnent Luffy defeated so far and lost because of the new power-up of the MC.
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>>153648038

Kidd will Zoro's cellmate
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>>153661572
>>153661759
I think something we learned from the few last arc is that it's not about clash of crews anymore, like Captain VS Captain and that's it. It' about ALLIANCE. The Yonkou's power is huge because they have 20 other high tier crew under their commande. That doesn't mean you'll have to take 2000 guy down, but that if you take the yonkou down, you better be prepared for 2000 angry dudes hunting your ass, traitoring each other and training to fuck you up now they saw you fight.
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>>153661759

>Not that it's been super well-executed, it still suffers from that thing where Oda fragments the plot threads inside single chapters and weakens the focus on each of them individually as a result by cramming too many things.

I don't see how it is an issue. Oda always did like that. It moves forward the plot from everwhere the same pace and make us wonder how everything will connect. It's really enjoyable.
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>>153661759
>Sure they got found out and all
They have been marked since they entered the territory. The only people to evade detection successfully was Pedro and Brooks. Part of the reason I liked this having to be an infiltration mission is because Luffy was entering an area where I thought fighting would be extremely detrimental to him. But he's been getting into direct confrontations and he's going 2-1 right now. He beat Cracker. He lost to the angry army. And his prison break was successful (subtracting Opera since Jimbei took him out) and that included his takedown of people while he rampaged. Sure we've seen that BM's crew has organizational issues. But they went from being able to mobilize relatively quickly to not being able to react to a single prison break.

>Stuff like outplaying Brulee inside her mirrors or beating Cracker is just about inside the extent of the protagonists' abilities
I agree with the first part. I'm iffy on the second for reasons I stated. Even if you subtract his biscuits, Cracker still possessed a greater caliber of CoA and he himself could have just killed Luffy which makes his failure even more baffling to me.

>For all we know, Cracker's the weakest commander of the weakest Yonkou, with an ability more suited to please Big Mom's eccentricities than pure battlefield dominance (much like a lot of her crew seems to be)
Going off his bounty (how much of a pain he is to the WG) and what it took to take down his unsoftened, and non CoA infused biscuits (still took G4 luffy to take down), and the fact that he is also a walking army much like his mother. I'm inclined to believe that he's actually a capable fighter. But you raise a good point about BM potentially representing the weakest of the Yonko. It remains to be seen I guess.

>>153662068
That's true but Luffy isn't having his alliance help him on this one. So it's one crew vs an entire territory.
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>>153662189
Luffy got some minks to help though
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Luffy and most of the worst generation are yonko commander lvl at this point in the story.
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>>153648038
>YEAR OF SANJI
>barely in it
>cries like a bitch when he is
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>>153651224
He'll get his moment during the post-arc cooldown/party.
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>>153648038
>>153648038
Nah most likely Zoro will be on a crucifix at the entrance of Wano. Kaido won't bother making Luffy rescue him.
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>>153651016
>blackbeard in sixth place
Delusional.
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>>153652406
More like he'll lose, but once Kaido picks up one of his cursed blades and claims it, he'll fall down the stairs and die.
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>>153661205
One character got tired over the course of 11 hours while the other gained energy.
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>>153651016
Shanks Alliance
Buggy Alliance
Blackbeard Alliance
Big Mom Alliance
Kaido Alliance
Kidd Apoo Hawkins alliance
Luffy Alliance
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>>153663649
Also, the WG probably only needs one or two rubbings by this point.
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>>153662177
This.

It's just felt more slow pace lately due to most readers catching up and now having to deal with what the older readers have dealt with. Personally I cant wait for Wano and really hope Oda doesn't let us down. WCI needs to hurry up and come to a close with the crew barely escaping on time etc. etc.
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>>153663696
>the crew escaping
Did you read the most recent chapter? Luffy just told Sanji it's fine, they won't run. They aren't running.
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>>153648038
Year of Sanji.
Yeah not what I was expecting.
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>>153663767
If Big Mom goes down, it shouldn't be done by the SH pirates. The real showdown will hopefully be against Kaido.
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>>153663696
>It's just felt more slow pace lately due to most readers catching up and now having to deal with what the older readers have dealt with
That's basically an ad hominem argument. "Your issue with OP is really an issue with you! Be more like us(me)!"

I've been reading the manga weekly for over 10 years, so catching up has nothing to do with it. And I've reread it entirely not too long ago, the panneling and focus issues stood out even more. Try it, read Alabasta and then Dresrossa, two arcs that are often compared.
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>>153654717
Never realized Law's hat change until now.
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>>153663933
>The strawhats can't beat big mom she's too strong!
>they'll beat kaido a few days later in the storyline instead
what the fuck?
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Shanks, Buggy and Kaido don't give a fuck about Raftel. Of course Buggy and Shanks are closer, they fucking went there. They are out of the equation anyway.

From what we know Luffy, Big Mom and probably BB are the closest. Luffy and Big Mom because they have the power and a mean to read the poneglyphes. Big Mom will be out of the equation after this arc though, she's from a dead era. Blackbeard is clearly the leader of the worst generation at the moment, we don't know yet if he can the poneglyphes but i'm pretty sure he has something. I'm putting him first on the list. After that it's hard to tell. Probably Kid.

>Personally I cant wait for Wano and really hope Oda doesn't let us down. WCI needs to hurry up and come to a close with the crew barely escaping on time etc. etc.

You are wishing for a anticlimatic end to an awesome arc? There's so much cool thing going on at the moment, everything has been set up for a magnificent finish.
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>>153664050
>of course they are closer, they fucking went there.
Citation needed. There's no proof that anyone but Roger stepped foot on Raftel.

To this day Buggy is looking for Captain John's treasure.
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>>153663933

Bege has everything planned out. The strawhats are just a bonus.
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>>153664050
Blackbeard has skipped every single Poneglyph island.
He was taking the same route as Luffy except he skipped those specific islands (Alabasta, Skypiea, etc).

Strange huh.
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>>153664050
>they fucking went there
We don't actually know that. In fact we recently got told of a case where tripulants of Roger's ship did not actually make the final trip to Raftel. Maybe low-tier people like Shanks and Buggy at the time got left in a base or a nearby island while the big shots of the crew went in; perhaps the act of getting to Raftel itself is dangerous, much in the same way going up Reverse Mountain was said to kill 50% of the people trying to get into Grand Line.

There's too little info to go on for us to know anything about Raftel and what the fuck's up with it.
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>>153664103
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>>153664092

Captain John's trasure who has nothing to do with the One Piece. Rayleigh heavily implied they all went there. It wouldn't make sense for Roger to go on Raftel without his crew anyway.
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>>153664182
>they all went there
Not Oden's retainers, who were part of the rest of the trip, for starters. From there we can assume there's more members like that, especially to the point that Roger's crew was big enough to have cabin boys and nameless gooks by the dozen.
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>>153664138
Blackbeard doesn't give a fuck about the lost history or the ancient weapons. He spent decades in the NW under WB, obviously he'd know about the Red Poneglyphs.
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>>153664111
Luffy just goes with the flow all the time.

It's nice that the other Worst Generation folks plan ahead.

I'm excited to see what Capone does.
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>>153664224
History research is a hobby of his (SBS 82).
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>>153664224
>Blackbeard doesn't give a fuck about the lost history

>D: Oda-sensei! I know this is quite sudden, but please reveal the hobbies of the members of "The Worst Generation"! P.N. K.S.9

>O: [...] Blackbeard

> Gambling
> Historical research
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_82
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>>153663649
Huh, Shanks & Buggy.
They did go to Raftel right? Does that mean they know about the True History?
I remember Roger doing his things for one year after the crew was disbanded, so maybe they don't know about the OP.
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>>153664153
>>153664220

>got told of a case where tripulants of Roger's ship did not actually make the final trip to Raftel

They weren't real members of the crew.
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>>153664224
>>153664344
>>153664376
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>>153664386
>They did go to Raftel right? Does that mean they know about the True History?

Rayleigh said "we" know. Shanks and Buggy were true members therefore they must know.
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>>153664224
You need to re-read.
At the start of this manga Blackbeard is the one who tells the Strawhats that Skypiea is real.

He is the first non Roger pirate to state that One Piece exists.

He knew a means to eat two devil fruits without dying.

If you don't think pic related was a reference to 800 years ago when the D. lost the war, you're a retard.

Blackbeard knows more than anyone.

He is the true chosen D., the one meant to bring them to victory vs the WG.

Luffy is not. It's something of a glean but there were two factions of the D's.

The royalty (Blackbeard), and the common D. (Luffy).

Sorry for this horrible formatting.
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>>153664521
>>153664386
And Whitebeard could have known too, since Roger also offered to tell him.

Only Roger went. Only Roger got the cancer.
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>>153663955
Of course it doesn't apply to everyone, and I'm not completely defending Oda. I don't recall the story being so dry excluding a few pages every chapter. Is your problem just with this arc?

>>153664044
The way everything is shaping up this arc leads to Big Mom either going down or getting weakened. I just don't think the spotlight will belong to the Strawhats. I can feel my inner child exploding just thinking of Wano, I'm hoping it is exciting.
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>>153664717
>I can feel my inner child exploding just thinking of Wano, I'm hoping it is exciting.

I feel the exact same way about the ongoing arc... I don't understand why you guys aren't hyped.
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>>153664602
>If you don't think pic related was a reference to 800 years ago when the D. lost the war, you're a retard.
It's not. Roger stated it clearly, the 3 things that can't be stopped- A man's dream, inherited will, and the flow of time. "D" stuff obviously falls in the realm of inherited will, a man's dream clearly the quest for Raftel, and we don't really know much about the flow of time yet I guess but it'll be about Gorosei being immortals because they can't let go

I do like the idea that the "Will of D." is represented more by Blackbeard than Luffy, in the sense that it could be something more grey or straight up black than we expect. So Luffy would have to carve out his own path, rather than simply executing on a prophecy set up for him 800 years ago. But with all the allusions to "the one Roger is waiting for", other prophecy-esque stuff with Luffy, and WB telling Teach he "isn't the one", it doesn't look likely that this scenario will happen. The Will of D. will probably be unambiguously Good.
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>>153664602
>He is the true chosen D., the one meant to bring them to victory vs the WG.
Nah WB called him out specifically on NOT being the one Roger was waiting for.
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>>153664673
Roger got the cancer way before they got to Raftel, that's why they drafted Crocus for their final trip remember?
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>>153664901
Roger was referring to the void century too.
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>>153664978
Thanks anon, I did not remember that, but you're right.
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>>153664974
Roger wasn't alive in the void century though so it's not really his choice, it's something set into place near a millennium before he was born.
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>>153664974
Whitebeard also implied that Teach would try to kill every D. but himself.
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>>153664816
My preference is just with Wano. I'm more interested in what will happen there now that we have Sanji somewhat returned and the poneglyphs stolen. Strawhats have already gotten what they wanted at WCI
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>>153665233
Did he? Where?
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>>153664717
>Is your problem just with this arc?
No, actually my problem was mostly with Dressrosa but similar complaints could be raised against most post-TS OP, and even going back to original Sabaody (for which the extreme jumping around didn't really matter too much though).

Oda's storytelling at the beginning of the manga up until Alabasta was much more simple and naive, but it had a kind of nuance to it. And all of it coupled with Alabasta up until Water 7 also had a sense of delicacy and formal elegance (i.e. the giant silhouette as the bell rings, tying up every single plotline in two arcs with a single symbolically charged panel that looked majestic as fuck)
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>>153665299
In his death speech when he told Teach that even if he killed "all of them," someone would appear to challenge him anyway.
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>>153665330
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>>153665330
The "he" WB was talking about was the world government and Sengoku, not Blackbeard.
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>>153665330
He was talking about Roger lineage, telling that even if he have kill his son, the flame/inheritance of roger will never die.
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>>153665324

You sure it's not nostalgia talking? Sabaody is when i have started being obessed with One Piece personnally.
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>>153665573
As I said, I reread the whole thing not too long ago and the change was more noticeable when reading the arcs in succession.
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What did Nami mean by this?
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>>153665692
>Difficulty to identify facial expression

I think you are autist anon...
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>>153665641

I guess, i should too. I have just reread the east blue saga recently. It was nice (Usopp's mom death was heartbreaking and heartwarming at the same time).
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>>153652915
Hey man, I missed you.
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>>153665489
I know. But if Blackbeard is of the same kind of D. lineage as Roger, then why would him killing them even be mentioned?

It supports my argument that there are two lines of D.s, but they are lumped into one because of an ignorance of the void century across the world.
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>>153665489
When Whitebeard declined to know about Raftel, but specifically asked Roger about what the D. is, and Roger readied to answer and Oda cut away from the flashback suddenly instead of showing the answer, do you think Whitebeard got to learn the ancient history?

What if Roger told Whitebeard that Teach was evil but Whitebeard said,
>I AM THE WHITEBEARD AND HE IS MY SON!
I like to think it's what happened.
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>>153665324
I don't know if we will see much more of that kind of writing. What the crew deals with now is of world changing importance. I'd like to see more of Oda's touches, but the rest of the story is changing because it has to.
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>>153665967
Well because he just did it, without him the only son of Rogers would be alive.
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>>153666046
I don't think Roger knew who the fuck Teach was at that point
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>>153666071
Well if Roger tell him "That guy in your crew.." that could have been enough.
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>>153666068
But Roger's cousin's are alive and Whitebeard knew this for fact from his discussion with Roger.
>>153666071
Within a year or two of Teach joining (the canon contradicts itself in this specific question) Whitebeard's crew, Roger died.

In a flashback, it's shown Whitebeard asking Roger directly about "D," and that Marshall D. Teach was on his crew.

He directly tells Roger and then Oda immediately cuts away so we can't see what's said.
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>>153666046
>>153666139
>>153666071
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>>153666604
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>>153666637

> Teach... *pant* I need to tell you something you *pant* you aren't the MC !
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>>153666775
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>>153666637

We already have that great treasure.. the D.. Dorritos.
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>>153665939
Hey.
Source is Rakuen Onna Kaizoku 2.
EROMANCE DAWN is great too.
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SaNa makes everyone happy!
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>>153670369
This tobh.
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so, are these two niggers related or the one in shanks crew is from kano?
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>>153652734
>it's just these threads and everyone in general would explode into such a gigantic shitfest

What? These threads arent gigantic shitfests already?
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I used to be homeless and practically lived on these threads as an escape from my reality. All it ever did was frustrate me because of how stupid some of you are. Finally got a full time job and an apartment. Visiting these threads sucks now, I'm embarrassed. I mean some of you are doing the same exact shit in the time it took for a homeless man to go from pissing in bottles and stealing from Wal-Mart to working and building his own safety net. I don't understand and I no longer care to try. A decent amount of you are faggots and I'm not sure you can help it.
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>>153670939
Cool blogpost.
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The anime is at LUCKY 777

[HorribleSubs] One Piece - 777 [1080p].mkv

777777777777777777
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>>153652924
who is Dragon for 500 Alex
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>>153648335
It happened too soon/the series has been dragging for way too long.

Zoro's character arc is good, but it's basically been over for nearly a decade and he's just sort of "there" now. Same thing happened to a lot of the cast.
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>>153670872
shanks crew member is probably from Sai's country
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>>153671392
That very well could be true. It would make him one of the strongest people in the whole manga.
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>>153654479
> Kizaru

?
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>>153671954
Kizaru fights with a light sword, hes also the 2nd strongest Admiral as far as we know

so Luffy vs Akainu obviously for revenge, Zoro vs Kz
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>>153670939
and great doujins !
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>>153672007
Opening 17 matchup make more sense than that
(Maverick vs WG Lapdog/ two swordsman/ Holy light vs Hell fire)
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>>153671509
which is kano.
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>>153672007
>Luffy vs Akainu
I really don't see it beyond some short skirmish. I mean, Luffy's final opponent after all this years of buildup should be Blackbeard, Akainu shouldn't fall untill the very last arc, and I don't see him as kind of "appetizer" fight. Furthermore, we've got Sabo with prominent role in the flashback and Dressrosa, and he has all the right to avenge Ace. Having the Akainu's last stand be against Sabo makes more sense.
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>Zoro: I WADDA GET LOST! TAKE ME BACK TO SOME TOWN PLZ
>Furanky: I WADDA TO AAAAAOW
>Chopper: I WADDA STICK STICKS IN MY NOSE AGAIN!!
>Usopp: I WADDA LIE AGAIN!!
>Brooke: I wadda be alive again, yohoho~~

What do you wadda?
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>>153672624
I feel like Luffy and Ace were close since Sabo didn't even see him as an adult and Luffy was literally right next to Ace and got the horror of seeing Akainus fist going through his bros chest

Comparatively BB hasnt done a lot other than capture Ace and kill WB
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I don't see how Luffy could beat Akainu though, I mean even with Haki and everything how can Luffy beat Akainu in a straight up one on one fight?

How can Luffy beat lava?
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I don't see how Luffy could beat Crocodile though, I mean even with Water and everything how can Luffy beat Crocodile in a straight up one on one fight?

How can Luffy beat Sand?
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>bringing back the worst princess
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I don't see how Vivi could defeat my dick, i mean even with lubricant and everything how can Vivi defeat my dick in a straight up one of one passionate sex?

How can Vivi beat juicy dick?
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>>153672676
shut the fuck up already nobody likes you
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>>153672676
>Brooke: I wadda be alive again, yohoho~~
Seriously, I don't like current Sanji's development, but I'd endure Brook's unexplained past coming to get him just to see him scream 'I wadda live!".

>>153672734
If the flashback didn't make it clear for you, then Dressrosa surely should have - Sabo is much their brother as the each of them, Ace loved him all his life, and Sabo loves him, too.
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>>153672734

> Comparatively BB hasnt done a lot other than capture Ace and kill WB

That's why he will kill Shanks. It's almost a necessity. Defeating the mentor of Luffy will strenghten the hate Luffy has towards him and also make him the main goal of Luffy (power wise).
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>>153673099

>If the flashback didn't make it clear for you, then Dressrosa surely should have - Sabo is much their brother as the each of them, Ace loved him all his life, and Sabo loves him, too.

Sabo has almost the spirit of Ace in him... He's the one who will will defeat Akainu for sure. There's a reason Oda portrayed him so strong.
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>>153673061
>I don't see how Vivi could defeat my dick
She wouldn't even have to try.
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>>153674501
That's a very inappropriate outfit for a princess.
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>>153651039
Pretty much. But this time it's Sanji being a hostage of Big Mom and half of the crew got replaced by a rabbit, a tiger, a lion and a shark.
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>>153651224
that's why he going to die this arc
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>>153664717
>I can feel my inner child exploding just thinking of Wano, I'm hoping it is exciting.

Better not get your hopes up too much, I remember how everyone was hyped as fuck for Fishman Island like that and we all know how that turned out...
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>>153674893
Why are people so convinced he's going to die?
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>>153675194
Big mom took his years and he's too honorable to say anything about it.
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Bege is going to unleash Germa's clone army during the wedding.
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>>153675243
Do fishman share the lifespan of their animal species? Whale sharks can live for up to 100 years and Big Jin is only mid 40s. Do you thing BM took 60 years from him? Would he look older or is it like taking from the end of your lifespan?
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>>153648038
Zoro already had his big, emotional, crying scene...
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>>153675194
Ever since FI arc concluded people who didn't want him in the crew were saying he's going to die, as it's the only thing that could prevent him from joining. Obviously, he won't die. And he will join.

>>153675243
I actually like the theory that BM took some years and Pudding erased that memory. He wouldn't die int this scenario and would get them back, but this would be a nice twist.
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>>153662580
>the year of Sanji should go back to East Blue where he belongs
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>>153675373
>taking from the end of your lifespan?

Maybe something like this. Pedro doesn't look old but he has the same problem.
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>>153675390
>I wadda win
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>>153675496

>i wadda slice
>i wadda steal
>i wadda cook
>i wadda lie
>i wadda cure
>i wadda SUPERRRRRR
>i wadda live yohohoho
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There is potential for Zoro to have an arc like this.
When Usopp left the group, he made the point that he shouldn't be allowed to come back, especially not without apologizing first.

And that if Luffy was a spineless shit that was okay with it in any other way, he'd be the next one to leave.

To a degree, this is what happened with Sanji. He fought Luffy and left. If oro was to find out about this somewhere on the road, it could be used as a way for him to get his arc.
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I bet Jinbe will die on their way back to sunny. Luffy is stunned and shock while his crew explains big moms powers and that she most likely killed him. Luffy will then head back to fight big mom and knock her out. This returns everyone's souls and life span and fixed everything.
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>>153675349
I swear to god if he fucking steal that shit and makes a hyperbolic Bege chamber.
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One Piece re-animated like this before I die please? https://youtu.be/Jt1h1MinlLI?t=153
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Is anyone else disappointed that Capone might be done after this and we'll never get an entire arc of Zoro being lost inside of his body?
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>>153675904
God damn... That actually sounds wonderful.
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>>153672676
I WADDA FUG CARROT.
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One development Oda could give to Zoro is by having him take full charge, as befitting his position. Right now his usual showcase of first mate role is fighting strongest possible enemy short of the arc boss. What he needs to grow is to responsibly lead the crew and make decisions. He has a perfect opportunity for it in Wano, so I hope Oda doesn't fuck it up.
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>>153675904
>entire arc of Zoro being lost inside of his body?
This idea sounds amazing at first but it seems to me Capone has enough control of himself that he wouldn't even need to make it a maze.

As far as what we've got left of Capone, there should be some sweet Keikaku action coming up before we're down.
Luffy might not be crashing the wedding alone.
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>>153676260
I'm not even a big fan of Zoro but I'd love to see at least a few chapters of Zoro leading the wano team.
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>>153655366
Imagine finding an exploit in Pokemon that gives you a direct path to walk to where the Elite Four when you start are but you still can't actually fight them until you get all the badges.

Sure you grind for days off some low level monsters and head over but there would be no point. The road poneglyphs give you a map to find Raftel and the the Rio poneglyphs give you the information needed to interpret what you find there and understand its significance.
Crossing the Calm Belt and sailing around for months looking for the island would be stupid.
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>>153675904
>Capone might be done after this

How so? He's going to succeed. He's a loving father against an evil mother and he's from the worst generation.

> As far as what we've got left of Capone, there should be some sweet Keikaku action coming up before we're down.
Luffy might not be crashing the wedding alone.

Of course. They haven't started yet;
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I've been wondering, /a/. Do you think that Robin only ever silently chuckles because she's self-conscious about her laugh? Since she knows that if she were to actually bust a gut, she'd go full DERESHISHISHI?
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>>153648335
That's one of the most retarded comment I've read on a One Piece thread.
Damn anon, you outdid yourself on this one, good job.
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the new episode reminded me that ALL of the strawhats made a promise to shirahoshi that they would take her to a forest. this WILL happen
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>>153675904
Capone is part of the Worst Generation. No way he will be done after this.
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>>153677210
Well "done" could just mean screentime.
He'll probably go do his own thing after this.

Oda can't keep them all around all the time.
We still haven't even really gotten to Bonney/Urouge yet.
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>>153677168
Pretty sure that Zoro didn't promise anything. But either way of course it's going to happen. FI is getting destroyed in the end of the series and with that the fishmen will be forced to live on the surface.
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>>153676789
you realize dereshishi isn't her laugh, but something she tried to copy from saul right
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>>153676789
Yes.

Cute.
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>>153677298
Are you forgetting the whole inherited will thing the entire series is based on? Its her's now.
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>>153677387
The only thing Robin deserves to inherit is a bullet to the head from the CDs
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>>153677471
Eat shit
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>>153677498
Kys
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>>153660128
>>153660923
>>153661403
The "budget" must be going to DBS.
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>>153664044
They've got like half their crew in WCI dickhead
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>>153666604

Where's the buggy edit? I always kekked with it
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>>153665121
Roger has been to Raftel you slime.
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>>153672898
Shanks could.
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>>153677387
retard
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>>153674804
Fuck off, Igaram.
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>>153677926

Who the fuck care? They have beaten Doflamingo with half the crew right? And it's not going to be Big Mom crew vs strawhats anyway. She still going to be taken down.
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>>153678918
He old do it with one arm tied behind his back
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>Akinator doesn't know Tomato Gang
What a shitty website
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Cancer?

I actually want him to stay alive.
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>Sanji-kun
>Nami-san
Are they fucking like Doffy and Viola?
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>>153680784
Is Brook fucking the whole crew?
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guys, I just had a horrible thought

Oda has been seriously building up the conflict between brook and big mom. His devil fruit is a natural counter to hers and she's obsessed with him. Let's not forget, brook is basically immortal any other way. With the exception of being crushed to dust and maybe drowning, big mom's powers are the only ones that could actually kill brook dead
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>>153681459
Will Brook and Big Mom kiss?
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>>153681393
Everyone calls him brook. Not the same.
Nami and Sanji have their own little way they call each other(in the crew). Just like Doffy and Viola.
Nami is Sanji's only -san ever.
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Reminder that Sanji is a better swordsman than Zoro, but he never uses it in battle because he values his pride as a cook over all else.
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>>153673214
I could see Blackbeard start targeting the Strawhat fleet while Luffy's off fighting Kaido, culminating in him completely shitstomping Bartolemeo
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So I already posted this elsewhere, but I thought it was cool so i'm posting it here too

Over the course of this arc, Oda has built up brook and big mom as natural enemies. Brook is the only other person who can control her homies and weaken zeus, prometheus and napoleon, he's copied her road poneglyph and he's the exotic being big mom wants in her museum. On the other side, big mom is pretty much the only one who's actually able to kill brook, and given that he;s implied to be immortal eating his life span would make big mom immortal as well.

I don't have a doubt in my mind that this will lead to big mom ripping out brook's soul, but while that might kill any other character, brook's devil fruit means he's just a soul trapped in his old body. If big mom rips out brook's soul, it will be the biggest mistake she ever made, because unbound to his old body, brook would finally be able to do the most dangerous thing a soul could do in the one piece world: posses anything and become a homie
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>>153648038
I kind of expect every crew member to get another focal arc going forward.
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>>153682545
I hope we get an arc about Nami's parents.
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>>153682646
Some civilians from East Blue. Hopefully they stay that way, not everyone has to be secretly from an important family line.
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>>153682646
Who are celestial dragons
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>>153682728
I don't want them to be someone important. I'd rather they be some scumbag assholes who abandoned Nami so they could run away faster.

Then I want to see Nami tell them off and have them see she turned out great without them.

>>153682746
The people who founded the World Government.
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>>153682818
Why would they be in the New World though if they aren't someone important?
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>>153682646
I would guess her parents died during that war
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>>153682925
Regular people live in the New World; it isn't all just pirates.
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>>153682925
Why not?
There's also nothing saying the Straw Hats don't end up in some adventure that takes them back to the East Blue.
Shanks, Roger, Dragon, Garp, etc.
There are a lot of big names from the East Blue, so there is probably something special about it.
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>>153677027
>I like Zoro as a generic battle shounen protagonist.
>He's great as a one-dimensional tough guy who's always willing to lay down his life for his nakama.
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Translation please
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Is anyone else hyped to see brook learn how to become a homie?
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>>153682974
Most of those people already were citizens there
Normal dudes going from some shithole in East Blue to the ass end of the world is kind of a leap
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>>153656971
it's very possible since that way, BM's wrath will be directed to Capone's group instead of Luffy and Germa
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>>153656375
>>153663458
>>153652317
>>153649263
KEK. Zoro is gonna be blood-related to Wano country. And this will be his "emotional" arc.

>>153655146
pic related
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>no one piece until march

JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP SENPAI
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>>153683780
>Zoro is gonna be blood-related to Wano country.
I wouldn't be surprised if little samurai Zoro got lost on his way to samurai school in Wano and ended up in some shithole in the East Blue.
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>>153683952
That would be the greatest gag ever
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Is it wrong to root for Blackbeard?
He's the only character in this series who acts like an actual pirate
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>>153683178

>i'm a fucking whore just look at my ridiculous tits
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>>153683178
Leave Pudding to me
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>>153684200

You must be new around here
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Why did The Kaido cross the road?
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>>153684837
To kill himself and hopefully you.
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>>153682422
on real pirate ships when the doctor was out of commission they'd get the chef to do his work because he'd be the best with knives too so he could be a better doctor than chopper even
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what would be a better end for usopp

>he ends up becoming incredibly strong
or
>he stays comedically weak but pulls off something incredibly badass anyway
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>>153686274
Second option. Ussop is meme magic incarnate and him becoming OP wouldn't do justice to the character at all.
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>>153686274
>he stays comedically weak but pulls off something incredibly badass anyway
This. This is always better.

You wanna know the last thing he's gonna do? I'll tell you, pulled straight outta my ass:

>Strawhats get captured
>This information is broadcasted to the whole world, since they became even more infamous during their travels through the New World
>The SH Grand Fleet come to rescue them
>the Tontattas infiltrate their cells
>They only have time and/or resources to save one of them
>they obviously go for their legendary hero, Usoland
>Reunited with the slightly larger Grand Fleet (the Giant Pirates should have a bigger crew by then, as should the XXX Gym Alliance), as well as the Whitebeard remnants and whoever else, he starts working on a plan to rescue the rest of the crew
>He attacks the place with his 8000 followers
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>>153686274
He is trying to pretend to be a badass by standing on the edge of a volcano, but then trips and dies.
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>>153653571
There actually was a panel after the time skip of luffy asking zoro what happened to his eye in the background, I can't find it rn cause mobile but I remember that it was when the straw hats were going to Fishman Island.
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>new crewmember
What did toei mean by this?
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>>153687497
Relax, they only meant she's their new companion on the mission to rescue Sanji, like Pekoms and Pedro.
Although she's obviously the next nakama
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>>153648038
Bitch is cursed shit will happen baka
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>>153648335
>Sabaody
>literally almost strike a celestial dragon for no reason apart from self-defence
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>>153657624
That's because Shanks lost his arm on purpose. Shanks knows all about the Will of D, and he is betting his life that Luffy would be the one to fulfill it. That is also the same reason why he acquired that scar from Blackbeard. He initially placed his trust in Teach, but he was betrayed, hence why the scar still aches him.

At least that's my little theory, it could just Oda not realizing the power creep that would happen in the first chapter.
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>>153683048
Imagine a 700+ million bounty sanji and 1+ billion zoro re-visting east blue bumping into pirate groups disturbing the peace in the ocean they group up in. We can only wish.
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is it done?
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>>153689177
Bartolomeo's gang before heading to the Grand Line after Luffy took over 50 islands in East Blue.
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>>153691478
I don't know for sure, but it seems like it's on the home stretch
>Beat Kaidou and Big Mom
>Get the last road poneglyph
>Make it to Raftel
>Beat the World Government
>Beat Blackbeard
>Done
Luffy's already built up a massive strong fleet of followers to help control his territory as pirate king
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>>153648038
>Zoro is Ryuuma's ancestor instead of just his overall design being borrowed from Oda's earlier one shot

My worst fear.
Wano's special snowflake quota is already filled by Momo.
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>>153691884
>ancestor
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You know, where do places like Fishman Island and islands stuck in the Calm Belt without any rain get drinkable fresh water?
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ADVENTURE ARC WHEN
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>>153693183
Underground springs?
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>>153693534
Wouldn't the source of any spring have to eventually be rainwater?
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>>153693490
never
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What is the point of this character?
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>>153695961
Muh dick
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>>153695961
Extreme sex appeal
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Seeing the latest episode just made me notice that Stelly ( Sabo's replacement) is a king?

Also Kano Kingdom = Wano kingdom
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>>153695961

Healer for the SH Grand Fleet in the final war.
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>>153687497
Who knows?
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>>153651039
I don't even watch or read OP anymore, only seen a few episodes and clips, and I knew I've seen something exactly like this before.

Also, I stopped around Skypia, how long would it take for me to catch up in the anime?
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>>153697547
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>>153695961
oda asspull
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>>153697614
who's dat secret character?
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>>153697655
Sanji, retards thought it was Caesar
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Why did Sabo give the Vivre card to Zoro? Did he know he was the first mate/vice commander?
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>>153697598
>Also, I stopped around Skypia, how long would it take for me to catch up in the anime?

kek
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>>153691884
Why do people confuse ancestor with descendant in every fucking language? Is this a bug in human programming?
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>>153695961
Making Zoro break his promise to that giant.
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>>153682422
>Sanji is a better swordsman than Zoro
Are there people who seriously believe this or is it just a meme?
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>>153695961
Where the FUCK are the doujins
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>>153693490
Never, it's all about Yonkos and sheit now.
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All this WB Roger discussion has me thinking about what WB meant about Teach not being the One Roger was waiting for. It also makes me wonder who inherited WB's will. Did it not get passed on because of what Teach did to his corpse.
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Best couple coming through
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>>153698633
A will is not a physical thing anon, it's just a metaphor

Also I don't think WB even had a will to pass on. He lived his life doing nothing and pursuing no objective and he died satisfied with that
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>>153696911
Kano is not the Wano kingdom youd dickhead. They are more Chinese. Wano is a Winter Island.
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>>153649300
>in One Piece the discipline of History(+Archaeology) has been presented as an unjustly forbidden knowledge.
No it's not.
The only thing forbidden is trying to uncover what happened during the Void Century.
Ohara wasn't some super obscure island trying to hide from the World Government because they studied history and archaeology in general.
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>>153686274
He's going to go to Elbaf and obtain a sling that take Herculean strength to pull.
Zorro will finally have a /fit/ bro to rep with.
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Zoro has no friends in the crew
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>>153652160
>but it was idiotic not to bring Zoro to a Yonkou's territory.
Literally the reason they didn't bring Zoro to WCI was so that Zoro wouldn't cause unneeded trouble because the original plan was to get in and get out as quickly as possible.
That plan has pretty much gone to shit, but saying they should've brought Zoro with them because they can't see the future is idiotic.
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Ya know I was thinking why judge needed help to take over a blue and I realized it.
1. Taking over an entire portion of the WORLD is ridiculous to do with him and just his family. He would have to go up against some of the kings we saw at the reverie who are probably also powerful as him and would be difficult to start a campaign against all them.
2. East blue had guys like garp, mihawk, and Shanks just vacationing In. South blue is where kidd,killer,inazuma, and where bonney came from. West blue had the kano country (happo navy bitch) and Shanks hometown. Imagine what North blue had.
3. His clones would slowly die with every battle and then the rate at which they are created would not be able to keep up at the rate their dying at.
4. The WG would not stand for it at all. There probably would be a grand battle (which we know germa would lose)
5. Even if he somehow succeeded Dragon and the revs would be on him.
>>
There are good and bad places in all the blues, east blue isn't any more of a paradise than any of the others. Higuma was a dick and wasn't a pirate, just a bandit. Arlong enslaved humans and killed moms. North Blue has cunts like the germa and a makino clone in a comfy island town waiting to be impregnated.
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>>153699092
I agree that will is a metaphor in real life. But, the talk of will being passed on in one piece makes me believe it is a solvent yet intangible piece of one's soul.
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>>153699748
Are you high? Go away.
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>>153699748
Well, it isn't.
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zolo
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>>153699789
I'll rein it in for ya. There has yet to be a single person in One Piece to abandon someone else's will. Roger>Luffy, Hiluak>Chopper, Zeff>Sanji. I'm just saying that Inherited Will in One Piece can't be abandoned and forms a permanent bond.
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>>153693490
When they go to the moon or elbaf
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>>153700414
The only thing Sanji got from Zeff was the inability to hit women
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>>153700414
It's still not something you can intercept going from someone to someone else.
Like Luffy couldn't just jump between Hiluluk and Chopper and inherit Hiluluk's will instead of Chopper.
Whitebeard didn't pass on his will because he had none.
He wanted to make Ace the Pirate King, his dream and will died with Ace.
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>>153700414
I hate how the strawhat was originally rogers
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>>153700507
But MUH ALL BLUE
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>>153700414
That's because One Piece is a romanticized epic with larger than life characters, not because there's some weird mechanic in the setting where you literally CAN'T "abandon a will"

Like what the fuck are you even saying
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>>153700676
I understand what you're saying but technically he saved him because they shared that dream, Sanji already had it.
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>>153697884
Kind of, humans have a hard time thinking generationally, in fact almost all time-based thinking is still flawed because evolution is still happening.
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>>153686793
This would be awesome.

>>153686274
Oda said Usopp will always stay the weakest of the SH because that's what his character is about.
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>>153700676
Sanji declared fishman island as the All Blue, he got a new dream now but I forgot what it was, lel.
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>>153699518
neither does half the crew
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>>153697547
>>153697614
holy shit, is it actually happening?
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>>153699518
He gets along quite well with Chopper.
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>>153676237
>there are people who don't think Carrot is gonna be the 10th Straw Hat member
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>>153701617
Yeah, and?
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>>153701655
they're dumb
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>>153701617
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>>153701617
Did Japs like Zootopia?

Oh, and iirc Rufi stated that he'd get at least 10 crew members or comrades. So it's not like she'd be the last necessarily.
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>>153702131
>Eiichiro "The Hack" Oda has to keep, or remembers, his word from 20 years ago
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>>153702205
Yeah, and we still rely on ancient translations.
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>No chapter for 9 months
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>>153701617

Fixed
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>>153701617
>>153701687

It's going to be glorious when Carrotfags will get utterly BTFO. I'm going to enjoy laughing at you.
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>>153702575
What if they both die
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>>153702644
Jinbe won't die, him joining was confirmed like a million times before.
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We dont know about zoros parents as we didnt know about sanji. so be ready to get rekt
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>>153702903
>Zoro, be a part of a political marriage or we'll kill your old sensei
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Dropped OP long ago and this is basically Usopp take 2.
Oda keep doing the same stuff over and over again. Why the fuck there is people still hooked to this shit. He is just running in circles. He just copypaste the previous arcs.
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Is One Piece the greatest example of a cautionary tale against would-be mangaka cramming a timeskip into their series?
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>>153704268
Well not really, the issues with OP don't have anything to do with the timeskip itself it just happens to be a pretty clean line from which the manga started getting noticeably worse
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>>153704456
>>153704456
>>153704456
new thread
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>>153704211
Because they still hope it will get better, but it won't.
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>>153704409
The problem as I see it though is that a timeskip is typically the author throwing in the towel and admitting that they can't keep it up. And the only means of storytelling they can produce is having the protags pull new moves and special surprises out of their arses that they learned offscreen.

It's literally a meta-reset button.
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>People were actually saying Sanji is a better character than Zoro
Well, that didn't last long.
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>>153704409

Which is not true. One Piece is as good as ever. You can't have another arc as impactfull as Marineford right after. Marineford was the product of everthing before.
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>>153704916
>marineford used as example of what was great about OP
yeah that's why you dumbos are never taken seriously in these discussions
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