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It seems last thread didn't have enough Broliko. Let's try this again
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>Iwen is the strongest of them all
>Helles bullies Arak for being ugly
>Arak is female
>Beerus and Champa bully Quitela
>Quitela and Rumoosh don't get along
>Liquir is the most stoic and honorable of them all
>everyone bullies Sidra for being a softie and non-destructive
>Vermound is considered an annoying faggot by everyone

Calling all of these
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>>153596728
wew that anatomy is fucked
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>>153596786
It's Iwan not Iwen, do you call "wine" "wene" ? No.
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>>153596790
Btw he wasnt banned. See>>153596747
Toyofag is still lurking
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>>153596830
yes he was https://www.4chan.org/bans, it just takes one minute to reset your modem and magically be able to avoid bans
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>>153596787
His name is Iwan, (イワン)
イ=Ee
ワ=Wa
ン=N
It's pronounced just like "Wine" but mixed up.
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>leave vegeta to me
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Jerez is a miracle of the Universe 2
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>>153596895
>posting Toei's ugly version
stop
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>>153596934
But she's not ugly
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>Tien, Krillin and Roshi

Fucking why, it's pointless.
I mean I'd love it if they surprise us somehow but that ain't happening.
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>>153596895
>Team or 10 girls
or
>meme character with a team of 10 "Beautiful" grotesque monsters
maybe the later
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>>153596895
>jerez
you have to go back juan
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>>153596985
wew, that wizard sleeve
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>>153596802
You cant just seperate a diphthong in english, so to keep the pun up you have to make it spelling based
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>>153596895
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>>153596985
I love this guy haha based toyobro
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>>153594503
>>153594839
>>153594903

I don't know if anon saw it. Posting again.
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>>153596787
Do Gods of destruction lose weight and muscle mass after they get appointed?

How is it all the strong characters are ripped, except these guys.
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>>153596895
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WHERE IS THE FULL CHAPTER!??!
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>>153597075
you don't need muscles when you have God Ki.
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>>153596787

>Everyone's names are alcohol

Nice
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>>153597075
Their bodymass shows how long they have been GoDs and how much time they have left
They start ripped like fish, then they become fat like Champa and Sidra and over time turn into skellingtons like Vermouth and Beerus
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>>153597024
that's not worth changing his name you mongoloid
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>>153596967
Because not everyone is a Z-Baby, that's why.
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>>153597075
Vados implies Champa used to be thinner
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>>153596874
Do mods even ban shit? How did he manage to bypass all this. Proxy and vpn should no longer work
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>>153597086
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DID SOMEBODY SAY WAN
SOMEWANWAN SOMEWANWAN
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>>153597121
>Vermouth
If you're going to call him by the real world equivalent you might as well just go ahead and call Beerus Beers and Whis Whiskey while you're at it.
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>>153597142
But they're not even SS1 level.
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>>153597071
I thought Baba was hitting on Yamcha
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iwan is the worst designed db character.
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which universe is the most lewd?
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>>153597110
I think the show should address this at some point.. they're skinny as fuck or just fat.
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>>153596787
>>153596787

What drinks are Mosco, Rumoosh and Arak?
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>>153597220
>undyne is with onion-san
Does toyo love undertale?
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>>153597202
YES Boss
whatever you say
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>>153597220
Brolly girl is from Universe 11?

source
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>>153597071
It looks good, now ink and scan it.
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>>153597254
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCj90QT7NfM
Mosco could be based on the Moscow drink or just simply an anagram on Cosmopolitan.
Rumoosh is probably just Rum.
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>>153597254
moscow mule, rum and arak
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I love how Frost just sat there dead, propped up by Hit.
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>>153597202
>talking shit about the strongest god of destruction
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>>153597202
god now i cant get Zeno bending over a table and sticking out his MASSIVE BUTT out of my head
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>>153597254

Moscow Mule

Rum

Araak spirits
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>>153597220

Screencap this post: Magetta is gonn take this whole tournament.
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>>153597292
Some idiots who think that all the group shots showed fighters from the same universe.
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If Black killed every mortal from every other universe.. doesn't that mean that he defeated the pride patrol?
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I hope tenshinhan shows off some sick new moves
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>>153597359
>that hidden hi
what does he mean by this
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>>153597359
Magetta can tank a Final Flash with no problems and only lost because he fell outside the boundary
That nigga is fucking invincible
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>>153597382
ah so no source..

I don't think their will be any saiyans expect in U6 and U7. My guess is it's Cabba's sister or cousin.
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>America changes Tens name to Tien
>His suit now has a Ten Kanji on it
>Amerilards will never understand why
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>>153597328
That ningen is alive. It looks like Toei couldn't kill Frost.
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>>153597394
>throws a hidden hi in there
slut
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>>153597382
This
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>>153597438
>puts in a hi in his post to make it obvious
Whore
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>>153597478
>that fucking hidden hi
hi faggot
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We know Toppo is a candidate for GoD, but what about /ourguy/, Senate AyyLMAO? Since he's the hooded guy next to Vermound, he's probably closer to GoD-liness than Toppo is.

Most importantly, if Goku's new form is stronger than Ayy and Toppo would that mean Goku's new transformation is him forcibly turning himself into a GoD-like being rather than a form higher than SSJB? Would this explain that rather sinister look of Goku's new form? Another thing to note is that Ayy and Goku's Ultimate Form have violent red auras. Perhaps it's because they're both close to becoming GoDs?

Are Black's sycthe and dimension cutting powers a result of him unlocking Goku's latent GoD powers as he was powering up at an alarming rate? Reminder that Black didn't even know what the fuck those powers were or where they come from. A sycthe is the perfect weapon for someone who's supposed to be the avatar for destruction and death, and Goku does have an affinity for staff like weapons.
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>>153597463
>>153597507
>>153597543
no u
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>>153597561
>all those hidden hi's
Fucking faggot
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>>153597629
What is this "hi" shit? I don't give a fuck. I just want to discuss DBS.
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>>153597388
he didnt kill every mortal
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>>153597184
Neither is everyone in the tournament. Frieza wasn't even SS1 level and he was the strongest being in U7.
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>>153597704
>puts a hidden hi just to bait like the dirty little slut he is
sluts I swear
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>>153597775
funny how some random scientist on planet earth made some andriods much stronger than Frieza. Pretty dumb if you ask me.
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>>153597220
U4 Supreme Kai is cool as fuck. Can already tell Quitela will be important.
I also like Mosco and the Nerd Supreme Kai.
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>>153597809
he invented unlimited KI, thats pretty big
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>>153597809
Deal with it, the Old Man and Mime were amazing.
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>>153597031
Source?
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>>153597328
>>153597443
yup. still alive and on the run
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>>153597900
funsexydragonball

there's blowjob pic as well
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>>153597903
can't wait for him to transform into Platinum Frost in the tournament
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>>153597561
That's a very interesting theory but I don't think Goku would ever want to be GoD. Also Black/Zamasu is a kaioshin who create things so it's possible that he just created those powers and clones as he was getting better with Rose.
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>>153597915
>threads memed that guy into being weak as fuck
>now we memed U11 into super heroes
we have so much power...
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>>153597787
does it count if I say hey
i want to be ih virgin
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>>153597903
not canon though
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>>153597903
So how are they going to fix Frost in the anime? He isn't portrayed as being so evil in the manga so his personality is going to be inconsistent. Even if they change it to be like the manga then it won't explain how he is a fugitive.
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>>153597809
Dr. Gero was a genius. Bulma also invented a time machine. If some saiyans can be the strongest of the universe, then some humans can be the most intelligent. Also the manga isn't canon.
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>>153598064
ACTUALLY bulma from out timeline never invented a time machine and never will
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>>153597955
episodes are put into productions MONTHS before threads about it are created.
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>>153598102
Yeah, some bulma invented it, whatever.
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>>153598064
There has to be a bigger reason why earth is important other than goku fell onto this place. Human beings being the smartest race in the universe is appopriate for saiyans being the strongest.
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>>153597955
Sometimes I wonder about memes too.
Do you think they are cause or consequence?
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>>153598130
>Toei filler
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>>153598037
He is in the OP FROST LIVES!
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>>153598130
>Whis said it in a filler episode so it must be true xD
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>>153597851
Yeah, and just to kill some random kid who killed his former employers.
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>>153598204
>>153598225
Toei filler is canon to the anime version of DBS.
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>>153598209
Yeah, and hopefully he will be giving a better fight this time.
His last appearance was lacking.
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>>153597903

Anyone else hope they fix his personality?
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>>153598226
and also killed his son
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>>153597903
have another blue alien girl
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>>153598259
>You are now wondering what Hit did to her during his timestop.
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>>153598255
Goku didn't killed his son, he was already dead.
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>>153597915
Speaking of Monaka, why isn't he on the tournament?
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>>153598259
Remember that time Hit went to SpaceMidgar and killed SpaceShinra?
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>>153598372
see if Goku actually killed Gero's son it would have made the scientist more sympathetic and tragic, goddamnit Toriyama
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>>153598259
>girl

Did you just assume her gender? Just kidding.
Her mask intrigues me, though.
If it was something with their planet then Hit would be wearing it too, I think. He has a nose, right? Doesn't necessarily mean he needs to breath considering anime logic, but still.
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>>153597809
Think about it for a moment, Frieza and his family had nearly god like powers among even their own species.

They didn't need technology, they could just use their powers to force races who had technology to cough it up should it prove useful.

Even though Tuffles might night be canon, they were a great example of this concept. They were smaller and weaker than even humans and were second class citizens under Sayian rule, this drove them to rely on their minds and technology to resist.

>Random scientist

Gero wasn't any typical scientist

The bigger question is why a man of his genius served the Red Ribbon Army. It's my head canon that he did so probably because Commander Red gave him substantial funding and because his son was in their ranks.
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>>153598403
Hit was shown to be able to breathe in space when he and Goku broke the barrier surrounding the arena, so we can assume he can breathe in anything
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>>153598337
oh you this is why I stick around
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>>153598044
They can down play it as him being a dick and learning his lesson. He never reached full Frieza tier.
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>>153598259

>>153598393
just another day on the job
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>>153598401
I don't think making a character more tragic and sympathetic is always a good idea. Not that it is not great when done right, but Dr.Gero's character didn't really need that emotional baggage.
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Guys when the fuck is DLC Pack 2 for Xenoverse 2 coming out?
There have been no updates or anything on the matter, they said February and now they are dead silent
Seriously they need to hurry the fuck up with the new Super content because the game is dying
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>>153598130
>One guy out of 12
>One of them already revealed to kill things if they're ugly
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>>153598529
Is Xenoverse 2 any fun? Would you recommend it?
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>>153598584
Yes but the story mode is just boring
gee I can't wait to play through the Namek saga again for the 100th time but hey this time Cooler is also there
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>>153598454
How is hit not a member of frieza's race?
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>>153598584
http://pcgames-download.net/2016/10/dragon-ball-xenoverse-2-deluxe-edition-codex-crack/
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>>153598492
Based Hit. Too bad he won't be relevant again.
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>>153598492
>dude begs for his life
>Hit is like nah
Then why wait there and give him the chance to talk? Just kill him straight away.
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>>153598645
Guldo's race but more hax.
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>>153598655
Thank you, kind anon.
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>>153598543
>One of them already revealed to kill things if they're ugly
Who?
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>>153598751
The brown tranny.
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>>153598751
Helles / Jerez / Cleopatra
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>>153598723
I mean he looks like Cooler, He could be hiding a tail for all we know.
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>>153598733
It still bothers me that saiyens don't have tails and there is no female version of Freeza's race, hell they didn't even bullshit a name for them. You can't even be a kai.
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>>153596787
Arak looks like ET with cancer
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>>153598790
Cleo is not a tranny, delete this
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>>153598492

>>153598687
pretty much destined to lose and make another character look awesome

>>153598706
Maybe he wanted him to know who killed him? Ah well. time was stopped anyway. doesn't matter to Hit
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>>153598751
I think he is talking about the female GoD, the one called Jerez/Helles.
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>>153598812
I'm amazed that Fusions gave you both Kais and tailed Saiyans at the cost of a Frieza race.
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>>153598852
>nothing_personnel_kid.webm
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>>153598706
Assassin honor or something, Hit in the same episode says he doesn't like killing his targets from behind their backs
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>>153598812
They won't include female versions of Frieza's race until Toriyama confirms his race has sexes or sexual dimorphism.

With Majinns they had a magic excuse and a good design to back up it's acceptance. They won't just start making shit up about Frieza biology without Toriyama's blessing.
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>>153598871
All purpose aliens were still there to make one.
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>>153598812
Couldn't they ask Toriyama about it? I mean, Freeza called King Cold his father, doesn't that imply there is a mother? We never really got a lot of information regarding Freeza's race, maybe it is time to start.
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>>153598723
You might be onto something. On average, U6 races seem to be stronger than the U7 counterparts.

>U6 Saiyans are stronger and can't be dominated by the resident Frieza.
>U6 Humans engaged in a war that destroyed their planet. They posses planet busting capacities.
There's probably more of the U6 Friezas who can transform besides Frost.

Wouldn't be shocking if U6 Guldos are ultra powerful and tall /fit/ men.
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>>153598969
>2017
>Needing women to procreate
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>>153598812
>It still bothers me that saiyens don't have tails and there is no female version of Freeza's race

As far as I know, XV tries to stick to canon. Frieza's race are implied to be like namekians so no girls

Bullshit explanation for saiyans is that they're all from U6 (which isn't possible, but eh)
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>>153598852

I hope some of the "filler" for this saga is a peak into other universes just to get the basic info on most of the fighters and their reaction to the tournament even if they are there for maybe 30 seconds max proper.
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>>153598969
West Kaioshin is Freeza's mother
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>>153598969
Namekians also call their parent "father"

For all we know Frieza's race shits out babies from their tail as Cell did.
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>>153598871
There's a Frieza and costume that pretty much covers that race.
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>>153598543
>>One of them already revealed to kill things if they're ugly
it just says she dislikes ugly things and likes pretty things
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>>153597094
>WHERE IS THE FULL CHAPTER!??!
Up toriyamas arse, he hasn't crapped the turd out yet.
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>>153599100
>Fusions had a tranny Namekian
I'm surprised they got away with that
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>>153597015

Jerez = Sherry. A type of dry wine that was originally grown in Spain. Filthy Anglo pirates stole the grapes and did a shoddy imitation and called it Sherry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherry#History
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>>153599047
I thought Xenoverse stuck to DBO lore in which Saiyans were humans with some Saiyan DNA.
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>>153599047
>As far as I know, XV tries to stick to canon. Frieza's race are implied to be like namekians so no girls
Still could they could have at lest let you build a girly one with hips.
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>>153599161
source?
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>>153599098
hahaha
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>>153599185

It's super vague where the XV saiyans come from. most of them seem to be from completely different timelines based off of their dialogue
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I can't wait for The Lorax and his amazing Superfriends to bring that diabolical villain Goku to justice
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>>153599238
I read this in their voices english dub
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>>153598969
>>153599100
The interview said something like 'and Freeza was born from King Cold alone' which does seem to indicate asexual reproduction. But Freeza could have been a modified super clone like Solid Snake, no mother needed.
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>>153599238
why are so many people sexually attracted to Freeza
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>>153599047
Maybe Goku and Vegeta used the Super Dragon Balls to wish back Planet Vegeta at some point
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>>153599320
I can't blame them
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>>153598812
Yeah, they really need to improve some parts of the character creation. Saiyans need a tail option, and they need to program "spiked up" versions of the hair for SSJ forms.

Though, why would there be female Frieza race? It would be like female namekians.
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>>153599025
I'll admit I know close to nothing about advancements of baby-making techniques. If they can already make human babies without the need of a female human, then I'm shocked but happy for the scientific progress.
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>>153599376
No it wouldn't we know from canon there are no girly Namekians because they all vomit out their young we. However we know jack shit about the Freeza tribe so having a girl version wouldn't contradict anything we saw in the show.
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>>153599315
>But Freeza could have been a modified super clone like Solid Snake, no mother needed.

Solid Snake's mother is a point of view.
Genetically, his mother would be Big Boss's mother.
However, the one who carried him in her womb was Big Mama/EVA.
If you consider his creation was tempered and deviated from the natural way, then he really has no mother.
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didn't Toriyama confirm that Freeza's race reproduces asexually
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>>153599234
>Eemai
>A Namekian who moved to Earth
>He has a lot of effeminate friends, so he acts effeminate too
He has lipstick, earrings and wears Videl's clothes
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>>153599462
We know that they canonically asexually reproduce.
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>Play a female Majin in XV2
>Invest in Strike and Blast supers
>All equipment I want to wear reduces Strike and Blast Supers
WHY
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>>153599563
Thats what QQ Bangs are for
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>>153598852

>>153599086
watch us get a view of the last ten seconds of those universes before they get erased
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>>153599581
Is there a guide for mixing those?
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How exactly do you reproduce asexually but dont produce clones each time
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>>153599563
I thought gear was supposed to have no stats this time?
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>>153599614
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis#Automictic_parthenogenesis
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>>153599491
Well that same process could work with Freeza, and still hold true with the interview.
>>153599537
Source me bro, otherwise I call bullshit. I saw a total of one interview and there is enough space there to allow for female Freeza Tribe.
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>>153598243
Then Toei fucked up again, nothing new
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>>153599614
I'm not an expert on biology, but I think asexual reproduction either produces a clone or makes a lesser version of yourself.
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>>153599599
You can look up some recipes for good ones. Theres a random aspect to its generations though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca3qvbdFSZk
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>>153599614
its called reproduce because you remake yourself
otherwise its procreation
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>>153598259
>flower girl
AHAHAHAHAHA, you sly fuckers
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>>153599663
I thought so too but it does
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>>153599755
Only somewhat decent one of all these "Cell vs" videos they've been putting out. But all the others were complete shit, so its not as if the bar is being set high.
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>>153599924
I thought the sonic and yugi ones were fine. Maybe I'm just a pleb.
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>>153597171
What' happened to Broly-chan ?!
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>>153599967
Sonic was just cringe, YGO was shit since all it was was buildup for a terrible punchline.
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I wish there was more girl Freeza art.
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>>153600005
bottom left
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>>153600005
She took the bogpill
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Tell me /a/, favorite GoDs so far?

Post your top 5
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>>153600147
3
8
11
12
2
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>>153600147
Cleopatra
Ganesha
Beerus
Champa
Clown
The rest are weird or ugly
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>>153600147
Beerus still the best
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>>153597171
LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD
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>>153600147
7
6
11
10
4
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>>153600147
I like them all except Arak

What the fuck is Arak supposed to be even?
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>be Frost
>lost most of your good rep from previous tournament
>soon to be browbeaten by a fat cat because he doesn't have enough participants
>will probably job all days due to everyone figuring out your shit
>your peers won't even root for you

This is pure suffering.
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>>153600359
>an alien is an alien

woah...
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>>153600147

7
11
6
8
4
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>>153600055
>>153600061
>not a giantess
I fucking hope they won't ruin broly-chan by making her slim.
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>>153600462
that's her normal SSJ form and also holy shit are you blind? she's taller than Ayy Lmao who's shown to be a mastadon in the OP
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>>153600462
When she transforms she doubles in size
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>>153600499
>>153600508
They better not fucking ruin her because pic related is beyond perfection.
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>>153600571
and then he reached god level, just like that
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>>153600499
Cabba doesn't get taller
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>>153600571
>this is canon
Thanks Toriyama
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>>153600595
nigga, she's taller than this fucking guy
she's an 8 feet amazon
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>>153600571

>>153600375
and he probably won't even get a decent ending to him. suffering indeed
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>>153600638
But Frieza killed Tagoma right when he regenerated. So it isnt.
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>>153600147
7
6
2
10
9
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>>153600722
Oh right, I forget about that, Tagoma didn't deserve to die that early.
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>>153599599
Its pretty easy, find clothing that has the stat adjustments you want, get 2 of them to mix, and use an uncommon or rare Hercule badge and the resulting QQ bang should have the exact stats of the 2 clothing items.
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>>153600147
10
4
3
6
7
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>>153600571
and now Kuriza can start training himself

>>153600667

>>153600610
>>153600638
Frieza potential is just too great
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>>153600147
12
5
4
8
9
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>>153600632
Cabba doesn't gain muscle mass or have green hair either
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What magazine is that Yamcha manga being published in?
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>>153597438
If they didn't even know his original name why the fuck do you think they would be able to read the kanji?
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>>153598044
Piccolo commented that he'll probably become more like Frieza, in the manga. His path is set.
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>>153600147
ignoring beerus,

10, 11, 2, 4, 12
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I swear Geen looks like some sea-dragon mythological creature, but I can't put my finger on which one
How about you guys?
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>>153600375
Frost is gonna give up the cheating tactics and train his ass off to achieve his silver form for the tournament.

He'll redeem himself.
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>>153600957
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>>153597013
RIP /ourguy/
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>>153599238
This is a reaction image gold mine
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Why isn't Botamo in the OP?
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>>153598130
He's probably autistic and has problems with finding a proper method to destroy things that satisfy him enough
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>>153596787
>characters names are all alcohol

So that post about this show being about alcoholism was right. Damn.
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>>153600778
>Kuriza will never be canon.
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>>153601131
I wouldn't be surprised if Champa replaced him, but if ring out isn't a rule in this tournament, Botamo can be useful for once.
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>>153599614
You can't, even bacteria have multiple ways of exchanging genetic information.
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Meanwhile on /pol/
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>>153601131
he's a garbage character
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>>153596787
Gene is my favorite
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>>153601231
Oh god what do they think 'hide your powerlevel means'?
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>>153601231
k
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>>153601295
Hiding how redpilled you are so that you dont lose your friends and family if you keep bringing up jews and psyops every dinner
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>>153601295
probably not sperging out in public about jews or libruls
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>>153601231
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>>153601231
I'm starting to wish that Shillary had won just to puncture /pol/'s inflated ego
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>>153601358
What's with /pol/ acting like special snowflakes over their opinions?
This is pure cringe

But then again Freeza acted like a special snowflake who can't be beaten so this is pretty meta
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Is Mercenary Tao the best villain?
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You just can't wait for me to die, can you!
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>>153601455
no see that's perfect, that is exactly how Freeza acted
>hurr I'm all powerful and can't be beaten
>WHAT? I'M BEING BEATEN? BUT THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!
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>>153600147
Forgetting Beerus and Champa, because including them is unfair

9>5>10>1>4

Dont know why people are hating on Arak so much. She/he seems like they'll be that grumpy old person with the heart of gold.

Actually has some sort of design too.

>oh a fat beerus
>a clown
>a guy with an elephant face
>dog beerus
>tranny woman

Come on now, Arak is at least an interesting one
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>>153600667
>>153600778
>>153601191
Will never see any more fun times with the freezer family
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>>153600147
Beerus
Dwarf
Cleopatra
Mech
Fox
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>>153596787
>all these terrible translations
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>>153601600
Why is Helles called tranny? It's like you ningens still keep making fun of her
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>>153601479
>>153601564
I just tune most of it out at this point, they'll get bored and drift off over the next year or so. It won't go away but /pol/ shitposting will probably just recede into the background.

If anything, what we should watch out for is ironic leftists figuring out that they can troll the shit out of threads by posting about social justice. It'll be worse than when tripfag drama ruled /a/
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>>153601600
>tranny woman
childish
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>>153599238
wtf did I just click?
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>>153601837
>obsessed with beauty
>ugliest woman in dragonball

Oh and she has a man face. Are we sure Universe 11 is the clown? She's wearing more makeup.
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>>153601564
>>153601455
>>153601479
lol
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>>153601479
Freeza trained for 4 months and got powers to rival gods he is a special snowflake
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>>153601940
She can't be ugly with those eyes and hat, but yes I agree the big lips weren't really necessary.
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>>153601863
I don't even mind it if it's ironic but goddamn if you actually believe in the existance of a ''red pill'' as in of an objective view of life that cannot be challenged and then proceed to act like a special snowflake over it, you are fucking cancer
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>>153597359
It'll be Winny the Poo. Remember, he no-selled all of Goku's attacks. The only reason he lost was because of ring out, which is unlikely to be a problem in this tournament.
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>>153601940
I bet all of that is an easy way to have her hakai the shit out of you and all the other GoDs will constantly make fun of her makeup
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>>153602027
Nefertiti
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>>153602116
Nah, she's going to shit all over Arakk and we'll feel bad for her and think she's a bitch.

She'll be Boa Hancock but without the being attractive part.
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>>153602391
So Arak is female? Is it confirmed?
Would be funny if it was
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>>153602581
No it isnt. To me, Arak looks more likely to be female then male. I'm cant expect anything but a grandma type voice coming out of her/him.
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>>153602623
Yeah I too think Arak looks female, the character has a granny look
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1fxIZEG45w
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>>153597110
That's not how DBZ has ever worked on any level.Even with god ki bullshit.

They just have a boner for twinks and fat people.

Goddamnit, the FotN movies got absolutely fucking everything right. Why in the fuck can't the people who're making hundreds of millions off of DBZ get it half correct.
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>>153602827
>That's not how DBZ has ever worked on any level.Even with god ki bullshit.

nice headcanon
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>>153602827
Are you a black guy?
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>>153597142
They wer considered small potatoes in the middle of fucking DB you faggot.
The shit are you babbling about.
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>>153602886
didnt tien kill the fat mutant namekian
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>>153600595
They gave her a "normal" ssj form (which looks FUCK ALL like any SSJ ever created by Toriyama at any point) because people were visibly and notably put off by the broly with lipstick thing they had going.

Don't worry. You can shlick yourself dry to your giant gross monster when they desperatley try to make a funny/sell her as dickable by having roshi for some odd reason decide to play with a swole bitch.
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>>153600848
Shōnen Jump Plus digital manga magazine
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>>153603022
The brolina in the picture isnt drawn by toriyama
Seems like the Toei guy designed Captain Alien, Broly and the teletubby
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>>153603022
are you retarded anon?
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>>153602878
Prove me wrong.

>>153602885
Yes.
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>>153603095
>Seems like the Toei guy designed Captain Alien, Broly and the teletubby
There's no proof that Yamamuro designed anything.
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Should I watch the broly movie? Never watched any DBZ movies
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>>153602932
He killed a low level nothing.
Piccolo Sr. Slapped his shit sideways and Piccolo Jr. would have ripped him several new assholes if he fought him in that tournament.
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>>153603114
She looks absolutely nothing like any FEMALE SSJ ever designed by Toriyama ever.

She looks like they're going all in on the off putting rule 63 tranny thing.

By the way, why didn't they show her SSJ form and keep the LSSJ thing as a surprise? Exactly. There was never going to be a "normal" SSJ form for her. It was going to be innocent highschool bordering on college aged cunny who goes into full broly with slight tits and lipstick mode. You know for laughs.
Till everyone collectively said. FAGGOTS! or just raged out at it.
Then someone said Wait! WAIT! Broly had a regular SSJ form in one of the movies didn't he?!!
Then they all breathed a collective sigh of relief.
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>>153603411
You need to be over 18 to post on this website
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>>153603411
>FEMALE SSJ ever designed by Toriyama
Anon...
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>>153603489
>who is Note
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>>153603169
I'll tell you if u say "hi" to me
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>>153603780
h...hi....
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>>153603526
A ningen
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>>153603169

First one is okay. Avoid the third one.
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>>153603809
and an Impure one at that
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>>153603901
No wonder why Zamasu called Trunks a sinner, not even a pure saiyan.
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>>153601105
I look forward to Golden Frost. It has to happen.
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>>153603953
That might happen, he got humiliated twice by 2 SSJ like Frieza (Goku in Namek and Trunks).
>>
CLEOPATRA ISN'T UGLY
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>>153604005
She is in the Toei adaptation.
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>>153604005
fine mr.poopyface your waifu is not ugly
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>>153604059
Except she isn't
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>>153596787
>they retconned the twin universes already
They should just call it Dragon Ball Retcon. The show has no consistency whatsoever.
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>>153604154
They have always said that only 6 and 7 are twins
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WE GOTTA POWER > Limit Break x Survivor > Cha-la Head Cha-la > Makafushigi Adventure > Dragon Soul > Dan Dan Kokoro Hikareteku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dynamic
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>>153604005
YOU COULD'VE PREVENTED THIS YOU SHOULD'VE SAID "hi" TO ME WHEN YOU HAD THE CHANCE LIKE YOUR SPOUSED TO
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>>153604154
>universes being twins means their gods are also twins

Just how fucking retarded are you? This has got shit to do with ''consistency'', absolutely nothing was retconned here. The fact that the gods of twin universes also had to be twins like Beerus and Champa is nothing more than your autistic headcanon
Just fuck off already you fucking pedros
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>>153597171
>Gohan officially lost the bang for good
welp
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>>153598204
Only mangafags read db. 90% of the world only know db through anime. Therefore anime canon is the only thing that matters.
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>>153604217
Where does rock the dragon factor in?
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Guess who this character is
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>>153604217
>Dynamic that low
>not Rock the Dragon on the list
Ningen
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>>153604297
It doesn't.
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>>153604313
I see you have a terminal case of shit taste.
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>>153604303
Yamamuro's sameface strikes again.
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>>153598130
Whis has always had his own Agenda and there was never any proof to him telling the truth
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>>153604303
It's obviously Tarble
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>>153596728
haven't seen super yet, but are we finally getting female super saiyanjin?
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So which universe has the strongest god of destruction?
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I heard the scans finally settled who was stronger between SS3 Goku and Ultimate Gohan?
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>>153596787
You know, I just watched the episode with all of them together for the first time.

Now that I see that picture, jesus. Its like something the creators of Rick And Morty would draw up as a joke. An egyptian queen? a fucking clown? a robot? an elephant man? A fucking bearded man wearing a goddam fez?

Seriously, Its like that 'zany character' episode of Rick and Morty
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>>153604304
Dynamic is trash and I'm only counting the Japanese OPs, otherwise the Italian ones would all be at the top
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>>153604337
It's a list of original intros, if you want to make a list of shitty english ones be my guest.
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>>153604385
>Goku said he and Vegeta together cant beat Super Buu
>Ultimate Gohan beat the shit out of Super Buu pre Buutenks
geez we totally need a scan for that
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>>153604409
KAME HAME HA
SUPER KAME HAME HA
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>>153597388
Black only killed the supreme kais which is rather easy I would assume.
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>>153604457
it's not official and it's still better than Dynamic
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>>153599238
Zamasu was right
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>>153598130
Whis lies all the time. In fact his real intentions seem to be mostly hidden. Why did he bring up being stronger since he last fought his sister for example.
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>>153604217
Feels good not skipping the OP for Super anymore.
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>>153602746
18 actually sounds decent. What a shock.
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>>153604389
What's the big deal? The gods prior to this were an old slug man, a fat insect that tells shitty jokes, purple twink with a mohawk and literally Toriyama's cat.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wG84efH4sw

YOU INHERITED THE BLOOD OF SAIYA PEOPLE
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>>153604644
I AM SAIYA PEOPLE
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>>153604532
Yeah man, Limit Break x Survivor is so fucking good
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>>153604609
Hey Kami was half of a plant slug man.
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>>153604714
Nah he was a full plant slug man with half a soul
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>>153604303
gt vegeta
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>>153604644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Gq2NxTvak

Hey Krillin, I blew my load on Cell
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>>153600667

>no cooler and frieza slice of life

such a wasted opportunity
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>>153596728
>first female ssj
>looks like a man after transformation
>so basically she's a girl in her base form and a man after transformation


Ia this a joke? Why is toriyama so sexist?
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>>153604823
Oh god dammit, suddenly that pic of SSJ Bevis makes a whole lot more sense.
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>>153604644
Saiya people a best, Zamasu has shit taste trying to kill them
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>>153604871
(You)
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>>153604823
Did they get Skeletor to play the role of Vegeta?
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>>153604871
well female ssjs are a joke
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>>153597171

>Gohan gets bang again at end of trunks arc

>loses it again

what did they mean by this
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>>153604871
>Why is toriyama so sexist?

He's not, he just knows how to throw jokes about sex and expectations around. He's done plenty of shit at the expense of males in the series, look at Yamcha and Roshi.

Watch her not like to use it because she doesn't like how it makes her look.
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>>153605176
Toei filler, he was never supposed to have it back
>>
remember when SSJ hair actually acted like hair instead of a mass of rigid spikes?
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>>153605204
Remember when half of an episode was just still pictures
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>>153597561
>Goku and Ayy fight, progressively getting stronger and stronger until God of Destruction tier
That fight would be fucking SIIICK
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>>153605204

Remember when everyone was swole as fuck?
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>>153605238
>Martial Artists
>swole
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>>153605204

remember when dragonball characters actually developed new techniques instead of asspulling power boosts through changing their hair and hair color?
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>>153605256
no
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>>153605204
well its harder to draw
thats why tori decided to make it fixated
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>>153605256
But people love screaming and getting angry as energy surges through you.

Why do you think they repeated the same thing six times?
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>>153605204
>Wind actually exists? *laughs*
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>>153605238
Yeah, shit times. Thank god they stopped looking like that.
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>>153605204
yep
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>>153605204

Probably the one thing I miss the most about namek saga
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>>153605326
>Smoke is blown straight up
>Hair is blown to the back
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>>153605204
Remember when Sayians had monkey tails and a species defining feature of becoming a giant baboon?

Remember when half-sayians also had tails?
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>>153605204

remember when dbz wasn't shit
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>>153605443
>Remember when half-sayians also had tails?
Trunks and Goten simply didnt get the tail gene
>>
Remember when I had sex with 10 supermodels at the same time
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>>153605486
Yeah it was a nice bukkake session
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>>153605185
But i was expecting a qt ssj.
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>>153605474
That's bullshit, the real reason is toriyama realized he hated drawing tails and never looked back.

Think of every Sayian character post the initial Sayian arc. Where the fuck are their tails?
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>>153600147
Beerus champa cleopatra elephant and u12
not in any order
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>>153605204
Remember when Piccolo was a demon sealed in a rice cooker?
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>Toriyama only designs twinks now
>people complain about
>U WANT MUSCRES? HAVE MUSCRES
>brolina
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>>153605493
yeah that chick was weird but I still managed to cum on more tits than her
>>
I wanna have sex with gine
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>>153605560
Not unless u say "hi" to me
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>>153605573
>tries to slip a hidden have in without anyone noticing
nice try slut
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>>153603169
Just watch every movie, there's some turds here and there but there's really good stuf like Janemba and Bojack
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>>153605551
I was about to say Bardock since he was shown with a tail in The Father of Goku, but he's not shown with a tail in the actual manga
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>>153605700
Oh son, son, Oh Mediocre son
Please don't die on me
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>>153605779
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>>153605810
he had a tail?
wtf
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>>153605826
In Toriyama's concept but they decided not to use it
Or maybe it was hidden, dunno
In Bio Broly you can see his tail when he's in the tank though
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>>153605779
Broly also has a tail in concept art but it's hidden under his clothing.

Everyone except Toriyama probably keeps track of the concept that Sayians have tails.

Still no conclusive reason as to why Goten, Trunks and Bulla have no tail other than something Toriyama might have said about recessive traits.
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>>153605855
Maybe their tails were cut off when they were newborns and we simply never saw it? I mean, Gohan and Vegeta had their tails cut off and they didn't grow back.

Though that wouldn't explain how Kid Goku's tail grew back after it was cut off.
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>>153605847
Bio Broly's also the only super saiyan with a visible tail, it didn't change colors
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>>153605926
If they were surgically removed at birth they should at least explain that.

As for tails growing back it's something about returning in times of stress and crisis, but since Gohan's tail only grows back in filler it's probably bullshit.
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>>153597328
I want to see Tien defeat Hit.

Tien is the most technical fighter of all the Z fighters, and invented the most moves.

Tri-beam, growing arms, cloning himself, solar flare. I think he could pull off a win, he was trained by assassins. Goku vs. Hit part 3 seems boring.
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>>153606054
Yeah but how would he deal with a teleport punching timestopper that equal to gods
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>>153606078
Third eye
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>>153596728
>Time travel is illegal
>Supreme Kai's, gods of destruction and present Zeno are okay with future Zeno
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>>153606100
it's ok when Zeno does it
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>>153606078
The third eye in the statues of Buddha and Buddha head statues represents an abstract concept referring to a speculative invisible eye which provides perception of the reality beyond ordinary vision of the people. It signifies the entrance which leads us to the true and inner reality of higher consciousness. Generally, in modern spiritual philosophy, the third eye usually represents a state of enlightenment or awakening which evocates the mental images and brings our deeply personal, spiritual and psychological significance. Often related and associated with religious visions, the third eye is believed to indulge us to improve our extrasensory perception and brings out our ability to observe the vibes, precognition and even supernatural experience.
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>>153606054
This, tired of humans getting shat on for biological limitations involving power level. There needs to be more technical wins.
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>>153606100
If the president does it, its not illegal.
>>
>>153606100

what the fuck are they going to do about it?
>>
>>153606100
Well, what are they going to do? Arrest him?
>>
>>153606169
Erase him?
>>
>>153606196
hhhhhhhhhhheeeeeehhheheh
>>
>>153598259
aren't japanese little girls selling flowers actually underage prosties?

my uncle in the army told me about this
>>
>>153598259

Man, Hit's shoulders rival Tien's.
>>
>>153606100

>arresting Zeno's new friend

Don't be stupid, idiot.
>>
>>153604154
6 and 7 were the only twin universe that were right next to each other.
>>
>>153599493
No
He confirmed Frieza is a mutant hybrid
Hybrid means there needs to be two parents of different types
>>
>>153606078
>>153606054
>>153606085
>>153606125


Tien of all people deserves to be powered up to god level the most.

>Is the only person to keep training throughout Dragon Ball (Goku quit after marriage, Piccolo Krillin Gohan Yamcha quit after Cell saga, Vegeta said "he'd never fight again" after Cell saga
>is the only known of his race, so it could reach god level for all we give a shit with his eye
>sacrifices himself like every fucking arc because he's a bro (against King Piccolo, Nappa, Neo-tribeaming Cell, 1v1's Buu until Goku shows up)
>instantly learned the Kamehameha after seeing it once like Goku yet doesn't bother fucing with it
>creates the most techniques of all of them
>is the most serious warrior
>Is the only human not trained by Roshi
>is the only person not to fuck shit up in a retarded manner like letting androids live or giving bad guys power ups to test himself
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>>153606343
Like... Human and Saiyan? :D
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>>153606343
he also said Frieza doesn't have a mom
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>>153606356
Also forgot to mention he's the only one who didn't pussy out at the sight of Super Buu.
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>>153606391
Where?
Does that mean his species is hermaphroditic?
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>>153606356
wait tien fought buu?
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>>153606319
Why is future Zeno okay with it?
He never even knew Goku and he shows up in a time machine and brings him to a new timeline
I don't think time travel is that illegal
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>>153606426
asexual
they arent plants
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>>153597292
>>153597382
This shot shows U6 fighters and U9 fighters in the same shot.
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>>153606448
I know that at least in Xenoverse they say that until Trunks did it the Kais didn't even know it could be done by mortals. So it could just be bullshit.

>>153606454
You can't be a hybrid if your parents are asexual anon
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>>153606426
in Akira Toriyama-sensei Super Q&A!! 2014 he said
About how many of Freeza’s race are there? Are they quite thriving, with a big population?
Freeza is what you might call a mutated life-form. Strictly speaking, Freeza’s father is a mutant with an abnormally high battle power. And, born from his father alone, still in strong possession of the mutant traits, was Freeza.
Accordingly, even saying “Freeza’s race”, these two are the only ones who possess an abnormal [level of] battle power and cruelty.
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>>153600656
>muh dick

will she fall in love cabba?
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>>153606500
asexual beings can still transfer genetic information
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>>153606431
Yeah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71-T_fOPVpQ
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>>153606500

Real translation is

>I haven't tasted dust since childhood
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>>153606524
So that means King Cold was even stronger than Frieza
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>>153605560
>Jr. is the asexually born son of a guardian alien's evil half who came to earth after a big storm nearly wiped out their race over 300 years ago
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>>153602391
will the manga do her justice?
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>>153606558
he might have been but I doubt it
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>>153606455
That fighter in front of Magetta is unfamiliar. Wonder what universe they're from, assuming they simply aren't the replacement for Frost if he's not showing up.
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>>153606524
So is Frost a mutant as well?
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>>153605855
Gohan is the only half human half saiyajin with a tail.
Oddly enough he's the most powerful non fused Z character at the end of the Buu saga and his entire personality as a child seems to mirror the "legendary super saiyajin" that Vegeta talked about during the namek saga.
Coincidence?
PROBABLY!!
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>>153606054
>God ki Tien vs. Hit

I'd love to see that.
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>>153606127
Dude, they threw technical stuff out of the fucking room after the Hiit vs Goku fight during the first tournament. And after they completely failed to give fucking piccolo of all people access to god ki or a powerup you just fucking knew where this shit was going to go.

It's been random power ups based on plot and bullshit since. Technical means fuck all anymore and the inclusion of the scrubs from DB is just more of their sub-shit tier fanservice that literally no one gives a single solitary fuck about.
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So if the other universes are going to give us a main-timeline LSSJ what are the chances of it also giving Frost a fifth form? Or is a Golden transformation more likely?
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>>153606356
>is the only known of his race
This is still kind of stupid to me.
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>>153606558
Yup.
The form he was in in the Trunks saga?
That's more then likely his first form.

I swear to god some faggot argued with me for what felt like fucking DAYS that it couldn't have been his first form because he doesn't look EXACTLY like frieza's first form. I shit you not.
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>>153606800
I always thought it was his second
What makes you say it's his first?
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>>153606524
So either frieza is a clone of cold or their species reproduces asexually like namekians.

It's probably the later.

While Cell's asexual reproduction was always assumed to be inherited from his namekian genes, it could have also been from Frieza. Him shitting thing out of his tail rather than mouth might be evidence of this.
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>>153606754
Super Evolution or whatever it's called may not be canon.
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>>153606815
It almost perfectly mimics frieza's first form and because power control is completely unknown to most beings in the universe outside of earthlings and namekians they both have to seal their powers by using weaker forms.

The only thing that makes cold look like frieza's second form is height and that's it.
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>>153606754
I really don't want a super shredder Frost
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I LOVE BEERUSSAMA!
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>>153606901
if u luv beerus you should've said "hi" to me to prove that u luv him.
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>>153606754
better than golden recolor

>>153606890
speak for yourself faggot
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>>153606754
Frost is suppose to be another universe's Frieza so why would he get Cooler's form
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>>153606890
I do.
Fuck that shitty technicolor super power bullshit the Toei fags are doing now.

That stuff is trash.

Remember, the Acosians(that's their name correct?) transform to use more power.
What if he just unlocks a new super form ala cooler?
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>>153606953
For the same reason Broly is now a tranny and in universe 9 or some other such bullshit.
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>>153606977
Broly is way more popular than Cooler and so is Frieza
Frost is there because Frieza is popular not Cooler
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>>153606953

_ALTERNATE UNIVERSE_
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I don't want Frost to get the super shredder form or the lame recolor just make him look the same but stronger
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>>153606754

i swear to god if they make platinum frost
5th form, make it happen
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>>153607006
Cooler is also the only other movie villain to have his movie get a sequel.

He's at least somewhat popular.
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>>153606958
>Acosians
that's a made up fan term. I'm amazed it's so prolific these days
but also, there are only 2 known "power up" transformations for Frieza's race, as hornless frieza and cooler are their normal forms. Frieza transformed DOWN into his horned form.
The non canon Coola transformation (which is arguably the transformation with the weakest increase in PL we've ever seen from his species) and Golden Frieza.
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>>153607006
Frost is there because toei and toyo are untalented fuckwads and threw him in there for cheap fanservice.

Cooler, a character that had two installments was considered cooler then frieza amongst the DBZ fans. No I'm not shitting you and no I'm not being punny.

Secondly they should have just went with fucking broly, not with what we have. This is just more half assed fucktardation shat out by the morons running this show. That's all.

Making fucking Frost into a shitty weaker version of Frieza instead of an embarrassingly noble space hero was a piss poor decision. Secondly making him litterally a weaker version of frieza with a golden or silver paintjob is just taking a duce on a pile of dried dog shit and saying that they're making it better.

A mutant form mimicing cooler is cool.
A new color coding is bad.
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>>153607133
also, when I say "made up fan term" I suppose I should have said "Fans are guessing the dub-only filler line actually referred to frieza's race and ran with it"
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Any news on smugpup yet?
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>>153607146
>that hidden hi

what a slut
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>>153607113
he's probably one of the most popular dbz movie villains (and my favorite) but still no where as popular as Frieza
>>153607146
>Making fucking Frost into a shitty weaker version of Frieza instead of an embarrassingly noble space hero was a piss poor decision
i'm hoping Frost will start to become less evil or something but I doubt it
>Cooler, a character that had two installments was considered cooler then frieza amongst the DBZ fans. No I'm not shitting you and no I'm not being punny.
I can see Cooler being popular but Frieza is probably THE most popular villain after Vegeta
>A mutant form mimicing cooler is cool.
>A new color coding is bad.
I don't want either honestly I just want him to get stronger but look the same
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>>153607133
Well, that made up fan term was created because we needed a name for Frieza's race and just calling them Freiza's race was lame.

Secondly they couldn't just make him like twenty times stronger then 100% frieza during the namek saga. It would have been insane.

Frost having a form that looks like but isn't exactly like cooler's would be better in my opinion
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>>153607146
>Toriyama makes Frost a good guy
>Toei makes him a bad guy

How do they fuck up so badly.
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>>153607146
>Secondly they should have just went with fucking broly, not with what we have. This is just more half assed fucktardation shat out by the morons running this show. That's all.


How's high school treating ya?
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>>153607133
Wasn't the whole reason for them being called "Acosians" by fans because of it being mentioned randomly in the anime in a completely unrelated scene?

Also, given Cooler's power level being where it was at in his 5th form (like, 480 million if I remember right) and comparing it to how he did against Goku in his 4th form, most people assume it's only about a 4x power multiplier, but hey; it's at least more interesting and probably canonically more stable the Gold-forming.
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>>153607146
>Frost is weaker than Frieza

Nice headcanon
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>>153607113
Too bad his sequel was absolute garbo
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>>153607270
>Also, given Cooler's power level being where it was at in his 5th form (like, 480 million if I remember right) and comparing it to how he did against Goku in his 4th form, most people assume it's only about a 4x power multiplier, but hey; it's at least more interesting and probably canonically more stable the Gold-forming.

Can you powerscaling fags please just go ahead and kill yourselves?
You have no idea how much I cringe reading this stuff, holy fucking shit
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>>153603953

>Gold

He is going to be platinum or blue silly. Probably Blue.
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>>153607304
If he means RoF Frieza he was probably right.
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>>153607304
but Frieza was on SSJ blue level and Frost was about even with SSJ
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>>153607328
Just try and stop me faggot
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>>153607346
Then it makes sense for Frost to be weaker, he's not a broken special snowflake who can read god level with FOUR MONTHS OF TRAINING like Frieza does, for all we can assume
People keep treating that Frieza and Frost are supposed to be alternate versions of the same person but they are not, they are just both different people from the same race that exists in two universes
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>>153607403
Except it's been established that Frieza and cold are mutants and might not even be anything like their basal race, videogame canon aside.
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>>153607113
To be fair, Garlic Jr showed up in the show.
I don't thing Garlic Jr was popular.
I think what's more likely is that they wanted the movies to reference whatever was popular in the series.
Dead Zone was all about Piccolo and Goku teaming up, which is how DBZ starts
The next movie highlighted Gohan and Piccolo's relationship, which had been highlighted in the show (in fact, I think Piccolo had just died in the show)
Turles' team were a bunch of rejects from Frieza's army, much like the saiyans
Slug was a namekian, who were the focus of the frieza arc
Then Cooler showed up cause Frieza was popular, but Mecha Frieza didn't show up until 1992, and then a few months later, Mecha Cooler.
Then the androids showed up in the anime, and boom, we got a movie about the androids
Then the saiyans all got new powered up saiyan forms, so we got a movie about new powered up saiyan forms.
Then Gohan went SS2, so we got a movie about pushing Gohan to SS2.
Then we got the super saiyan bargain sale, and lo and behold, another movie about a saiyan
Then we got Goten and Trunks antics in the show, and a movie revolving around them
Then we had a demonic villain with no nose that started out fat and transformed into a tough warrior, that required fusion to stand up to and... we got a movie of exactly that.
Lastly we get movie 13, which is the only movie outside of BoG that really seemed to just be it's own thing.
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>>153607403
But he had the exact same power surpressing transfomrations
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>>153607463
So Cabba and Vegeta are exactly the same person because they can both turn SSJ?
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>>153606754

It will probably be a mix of Cooler's final form and Frieza's gold form, it will be blue instead of gold because he got beaten by SSB.
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>>153607503
so hit and my penis are both the same person because they both get stronger with more experience?
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>>153607503
natural power ups of one race is different than bastard mutations that need to weaken themselves and then happen to have the exact same choices for said powering down
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>>153607304
That's not even fucking head canon.
That's fucking exactly what was shown.

Frost is in fact WEAKER then Frieza. Hell it's been explicitly stated that he trained and HAD to get that poison put in himself to give himself an edge.

>>153607328
DB without accurate power levels devolves into unintelligible nonsense. We all saw what happens when faggots who think like you are put in charge of DB.
We get the clusterfuck of absolute retardation and nonsense that ruined canon on multiple levels and outright shit tanked the popularity of a character that was considered GOD in DB.

As a matter of fucking fact, why are you even in this fucking thread? DB has always been about fucking power levels and Super only fucking EXISTS because of the overwhelming popularity of DBZ and the power level talk that you hate.

I'll tell you what. Take your faggot ass out of this thread and start a DB martial arts thread. Forbid any talk of power levels and only talk about fightan. Bonus points? Forbid anything form DBZ.
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>>153607446
Yes stupid.
That's the point.
Frost is basically the strongest of their race and he's on par with Buu saga Piccolo at best.
And Frost trained his ass off for that.
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>all these hidden "hi's"
what a bunch of sluts
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>>153607270
>Wasn't the whole reason for them being called "Acosians" by fans because of it being mentioned randomly in the anime in a completely unrelated scene?
There was a scene where the aliens that did trade with the saiyans were referred to (in the dub) as arcosians
the japanese didn't give them a name, and the scene itself was filler.
I think it was King Kai who mentioned it, which was him just repeating rumors and legends he had heard, not facts.
>Also, given Cooler's power level being where it was at in his 5th form (like, 480 million if I remember right) and comparing it to how he did against Goku in his 4th form, most people assume it's only about a 4x power multiplier, but hey; it's at least more interesting and probably canonically more stable the Gold-forming.
We had no power level for him, just a few guesses made by magazines.
It's pretty safe to say, considering how Goku put up against him, that he wasn't much stronger than 100% frieza. For one, it wasn't until he went 5th form that Goku remarked that he was stronger than Frieza. So if I had to guess, his power was likely closer to 200 million, not almost 500. It would be crazy to think that he was 4 times stronger than Frieza, when Goku beat him with no where near the effort he put in against Frieza.
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>>153607614

In Cooler's defense, wasn't Goku pretty much just toying with Frieza in Namek?
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king of universe 6 when?
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>>153607601
Piccolo probably has continued training so he's probably stronger than he was in the Buu saga
Frost is stronger than Piccolo Goku even said Piccolo stood no chance
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>>153607685
And then piccolo would have beaten frost
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>>153607603
>this meme again
What's it about?
Avoid typing any words that put H and I next to each other?
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>>153607570
wew lad, with all that edgy swearing I bet you work for Mangastream don't you?

and no, powerscaling has never mattered in this series and all it does is making autists like you find non-issues and turn them into ridiculous issues to whine about like a fucking autist
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>>153607685
Frost was also tried after fighting a SSJ1 Goku
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>>153607701
SSJ1 goku of a base goku that far exceeds super buu
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>>153600147
the clown and anubis look like a good time
I am curious how a robot became a god of destruction as well
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>>153607614
>>153607570
do you special snowflake realize that those numbers you are so much obsessed with stopped being relevant after Namek, yes?
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>>153607693
the best Piccolo could do was stalemate an exhausted Frost
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>>153607654
Not once Frieza went 100%
Goku had an edge, but it wasn't so large that he could afford to toy with him, until Frieza started running low on stamina.
They mentioned in RoF the same thing, how towards the end of the fight, Frieza couldn't keep his power up, it was draining fast.
So he went from 120 mil to something closer to 75% power, like 90 mil, compared to Goku's 150 mil. At that point he was toying with him.
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>>153607715
but how do we know that
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>>153607570
>triggered DBZ autist tears

delicious
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>>153607697
>powerscaling has never mattered in this series
...
Get the fuck out.
No I'm serious.
You're fucking retarded and you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>153607685
Yeah, but not by that much.
He'd get his shit slapped slapped sideways by Cell saga Gohan. This isn't even up for debate.
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>>153607723
.... I specifically said we didn't have numbers for them.
Read next time.
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>>153605810
>his full form not only expands all his muscles but his skeleton also expands making his entire body bigger and arms longer
truly his power is maximum
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>>153607723
You do realize that Toriyama consistently brought up numbers and power levels throughout the DBZ and that the only thing he regretted was how far he pushed those numbers. Not the mere existence of them.

You're a fucking noob.
Go sit in the fucking corner.
Adults are talking.
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Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister
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>>153607696
>teasingly putting an almost hidden "hi"
what a whore
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>>153607747
>Yeah, but not by that much.
He'd get his shit slapped slapped sideways by Cell saga Gohan. This isn't even up for debate.
could you explain why you think Piccolo never got stronger after the Cell saga
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>>153607685

Did Piccolo even do anything in the buu saga other than train Gotenks and play Volleyball with Buu(lel)? I can't remember him fighting.

But either way it means Frost is at the bare minimum, much stronger than Frieza was in namek, given that Piccolo at the very least could fight Android 17 after fusing with Kami.

Doesn't mean much now though, for all we know Frost is only as strong as Imperfect Cell.
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>>153607797
Wizard Bibbidi
Wizard Babbidi
Monster Boo
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>>153607747
Serious question, are you black or hispanic?

Power levels are only a huge deal for the people who grew up with the Funi dub funnily enough
Secondly it is common knowledge that Toriyama introduced the concept just to throw it away during the Namek saga to show the whole ''pushing beyond your boundaries'' thing. After Namek it's been nothing but ''this guy is stronger than this guy'' assumptions, powerscaling has FACTUALLY stopped mattering after Namek and it's been nothing but assumptions.

>>153607782
Go read the manga Tyrone
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>>153607818
Piccolo doesn't seem like the kind of person to stop training and he didn't do any fighting in the Buu saga because Buu was far too strong for him
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>>153607849

Well i agree with that, but what i meant was that we have no idea how strong Piccolo was in the Buu saga.
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>>153607823
>Babbidi
Do you mean Bobbidi?
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>>153607570
Well we've been shown what happens when someone who thinks like you is put in charge
See: trash fanfiction like DB Multiverse or Absalon
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>>153607804
He did, but he didn't get much stronger then a SSJ2.

Have any numbers to back that up?
Because, lets fucking face it the idiots in charge of toei have a hate boner for numbers and training sessions and lack any and all fucking ability to show power in any convincing way what so ever.
We have no idea how strong he is and no way of telling just from looking and feats.
And since apparently everyone just stopped training I'll just assume he never got stronger then SSJ2 Teen Gohan.
PS SSJ1 Goku was outright toying with Frost. He honestly thought he had something up his sleeve, he had fuck all and Goku was utterly fucking dissapointed and basically stated that he could beat him without going SSJ.
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>>153607882
>Bobbidi
Do you mean Bobby D.?
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>>153607835
>Secondly it is common knowledge that Toriyama introduced the concept just to throw it away during the Namek saga to show the whole ''pushing beyond your boundaries'' thing.

You're fucking retarded. That's only common knowledge in your own fucking skull.

This is not even up for debate. Power levels were introduced because he liked the idea of them and it was so revolutionary and used with such unbelievable skill that it changed the face of shounen forever.

You are out of your tiny fucking mind.

I dare you to fucking produce one single piece of evidence to back your fucking claim.
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>>153607818
he chopped Babidi in two
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>>153607936

Oh, you're right.
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>>153607889
No tell us all about how well the trunks saga did with the loser fan base that you hate so much.
God yes.
It did so fucking well didn't it?

What's that?
One Punch Man and BNHA is eating DBs lunch?
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>>153607614
>It would be crazy to think that he was 4 times stronger than Frieza, when Goku beat him with no where near the effort he put in against Frieza.

Doesn't Goku at this time have to be post-Yardat though? "Block-Trunks-SSJ-Sword-with-his-finger" Goku? I always assumed he held off on going SSJ at first so that he could test himself, because it wasn't until Cooler threatened to destroy the planet that he did it.

I also feel like 5th form Cooler would have kept up a fair bit better with SSJ Goku it came to a more conventional fight and that dumbass didn't get caught in his own ki blast. He was actually able to get the drop on Goku by suprise before that happened.
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>>153607964
>It did so fucking well didn't it?
Actually yes, it did
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>>153607900
No.
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>>153607685
A simple reminder, Piccolo never got huge gains from training.
He only doubled his power in the year he trained for the saiyans (okay, closer to 125% increase)
We have no idea how much power he gained by training in the afterlife because as soon as he arrived, he fused with Nail, and got such a huge powerup he was able to face off against 2nd form Frieza pretty well. Even if we consider training on King Kai's planet basically gave Goku a 6 or 8x boost not including the kaioken, if we apply the same to Piccolo, we'd be looking at 30k at best when he arrives.
We know Nail was weaker than first form Frieza by a decent amount, which puts him likely 250-300k.
Which means fusing more than tripled his COMBINED powers instantly.
Then, by the time the androids came, he appeared to be weaker than Goku and Vegeta, but still pretty confident in his abilities.
He trained for 4 years (the first year while Goku was in space and then 3 years after) and managed to go up quite a bit, but given how he reacted to Frieza, it was obvious that in that first year, he hadn't made enough gains to be a threat to frieza.
Then when he fused with Kami, his power went from somewhere between Frieza (since he likely wouldn't be confident in beating the androids if he was still weaker than Frieza) and SSJ Vegeta, to being on par (probably a bit stronger) than Android 17. In an instant.
Then he spent 2 years in the RoSaT and still didn't manage to increase his power enough to stand up to Cell, and even didn't do as well as Vegeta and Trunks, who started out significantly weaker than Piccolo.
Then you have to remember, his primary sparring partners of Goku and Gohan weren't able to spar with him for the next 6 years, so his growth probably slowed again.

It's pretty safe to say that in Super, Piccolo is probably around Cell Games Trunks' power level.
Given that knowledge, I'd put Frost at Cell Games Goku level.
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>>153607870
>Well i agree with that, but what i meant was that we have no idea how strong Piccolo was in the Buu saga.
agreed so we can;'t just assume how strong he is
>>153607893
I think Piccolo does off screen training or something but ya we have no idea how strong he is
>PS SSJ1 Goku was outright toying with Frost. He honestly thought he had something up his sleeve, he had fuck all and Goku was utterly fucking dissapointed and basically stated that he could beat him without going SSJ
in the manga he still got his ass handed to him but it wasn't as bad
all Goku said in the manga was that it was over and he should train like Frieza did
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>>153608004
you're making a lot of sense
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I feel bad for Frost, he just wanted to be a cool guy but they wouldn't let him.

I hope he turns silver/platinum/blue, gets hueg like Cooler and beats some guys, and stays as a good(ish) guy.

>inb4 he goes full Frieza and impales a furry
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>>153608010
The thing is, it's stated that Frost did train. That's why he's apparently one of if not the strongest of his race. He's just not a frieza or gohan tier mutant who can get ridiculous gainz from just pushups situps and drinking juice.
That's probably the best he's going to get without going full Vegeta mode with his training.

Lastly, piccolo basically just meditated in random places across the world. Slowly gaining power through enlightenment and sipping water.
He's probably at the upper limits of what he can do as a warrior namekian and is probably the strongest single namekian to ever exist.

Problem is that he knows fuck all about who and what he is and should spend more of his time with the namekians to learn how they attain power and their skills.
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>>153607975
Trunks and Goku were fairly comparable in power (obviously Goku was stronger)
Goku was using his finger the same way Trunks was using his sword
It just showed how confident he was, cause if Trunks was too weak, his sword would be broken. If Goku was too weak, he'd lose a finger.

So yes, Goku WAS stronger than he was on Namek, since he clearly was strong enough to beat Frieza on earth and then some, but the Yardrats weren't warrior race. He only had time to learn one thing, and that was teleporting. So I doubt if Goku had even doubled his Namek power.
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>>153607935
>This is not even up for debate. Power levels were introduced because he liked the idea of them and it was so revolutionary and used with such unbelievable skill that it changed the face of shounen forever.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Listen Jamal, Toriyama introduced the concept to be inconsinstent on purpose
It changed the face of Shounen? Fucking please, tell me a single instance after the Namek saga where power levels were even mentioned.
You said
>We have no idea how strong he is and no way of telling just from looking and feats
And you literally just described EVERYTHING past Namek
Did Cell ever bring up his power-level? Did Buu ever bring it up?
No, it never happened, go read or rewatch the show. It's been literally nothing but people making assumptions based on looks and feats. Hell to this day we still don't know which Buu was strongest.

>>153607964
Most normal people here (so not you) liked Zamasu and those who didn't certainly didn't hate the saga because muh exact numbers, but because of assumed estimations not making much sense like Future Trunks being able to face SS Rose Black. But why do people say that it doesn't make sense? Not because of power-levels but because we naturally assume that Black is much stronger.
And that is DB in a nutshell ever since the androids.
Also it's funny that you bring up OPM, Tyrone-kun, as it mocks autists like you
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>>153608117
>Problem is that he knows fuck all about who and what he is and should spend more of his time with the namekians
He spends most of his time with Dende now, doesn't he?
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>>153608160
>Hell to this day we still don't know which Buu was strongest.
I thought Super Buu was the strongest but Kid Buu was the most dangerous because he never got tired or ran out of energy
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>>153608160
>Hell to this day we still don't know which Buu was strongest.

lol
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>>153608210
No I mean I agree with you, I kinda worded myself badly there
I meant: ''to this day people still debate which Buu was the strongest''
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>>153608117

>The thing is, it's stated that Frost did train

I don't think it was said in the manga, although i also got the vibe that he was the kind of guy that would train unlike Frieza.
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>>153607935
>Power levels were introduced because he liked the idea of them and it was so revolutionary and used with such unbelievable skill that it changed the face of shounen forever
Please tell me you're trolling.
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>>153607976
>good/decent/ok/not-bad or just no
That's pretty vague anon

I'm curious to see the general feeling towards it bit more specifically.
http://www.strawpoll.me/12363335
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>Magetta is going to fight some strong dude in the multiverse tournament
>they insult him
>Magetta is using earplugs now

PANIC
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>>153608256
>three options that are basically the exact same thing

and that is why my poll was a straight up ''yes or no''
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>>153608230
Honestly, it's just largely impossible that he didn't train, considering his life relied on actual combat, regardless of how sneaky.
Frieza hadn't had a real fight in his entire life until Goku (or arguably, Vegeta).
In fact, it seems pretty safe to say that he may not even have had a fight at ALL until Nail. Just latent power and talent got him where he was.

He destroyed planets by waggling fingers.
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How much longer until next episode? Is Super aired on morning or midnight?
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>>153608325

Exactly 14 hours
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>>153608160
>Listen Jamal, Toriyama introduced the concept to be inconsinstent on purpose
Powerlevels were always 100% consistent with what happened in the story. The only times they weren't were when people hid their power levels, or had secret power. Even then they could kind of sense that they were hiding something.

>It changed the face of Shounen? Fucking please, tell me a single instance after the Namek saga where power levels were even mentioned.
Trunks saga.
Android saga
Cell saga
Buu saga

>You said
>>We have no idea how strong he is and no way of telling just from looking and feats
>And you literally just described EVERYTHING past Namek
In fucking DBSuper you fucking faggot. I specifically say WE HAVE NO GODDAMNED CLUE AS TO HOW STRONG PICCOLO IS FROM WHAT WEVE SEEN IN SUPER BECAUSE THEY DO NOT LIKE TO USE POWER LEVELS=NUMBERS AND LACK THE SKILL AND TALENT TO SHOW POWER OF CHARACTERS WITHOUT OUTRIGHT STATING IT.

>Did Cell ever bring up his power-level?
Yes.
>Did Buu ever bring it up?
No, he's a gallopping retard. But we could guess at his power level because everyone outright states how strong they are and we are comparing it to the SSJ forms and that power level thing that was brought in by Babidi's people. Killiz or something.

>No, it never happened, go read or rewatch the show. It's been literally nothing but people making assumptions based on looks and feats. Hell to this day we still don't know which Buu was strongest.

Do you understand what's wrong now?
Do you get it?
Super has at no point been able to accurately or decently show power to give us any indication of what is going on other then a bunch of horribly animated cg trash.
Even worse, they effectively threw awat bullet proof canon that the series has depended on for decades for no real reason.

You are complaining about numbers being applied to what's being shown. That's your big stupid bitchy little deal. If the show was internally consistent then this wouldn't matter.
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>>153608312
Frost did use a lot more melee attacks than Ki blasts
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>>153608160
>Most normal people here (so not you) liked Zamasu and those who didn't certainly didn't hate the saga because muh exact numbers, but because of assumed estimations not making much sense like Future Trunks being able to face SS Rose Black. But why do people say that it doesn't make sense? Not because of power-levels but because we naturally assume that Black is much stronger.
>And that is DB in a nutshell ever since the androids.
>Also it's funny that you bring up OPM, Tyrone-kun, as it mocks autists like you

No one likes zamasu or black and the entire trunks saga was a fuck up that got many people fired.
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>>153608386
>Super has at no point been able to accurately or decently show power to give us any indication of what is going on other then a bunch of horribly animated cg trash.

That is literally DBZ ever past Namek and I frankly don't even see the problem.

>Cell mentioned his powerlevel
>powerlevels were mentioned at all past Namek

Prove it then, I'll be waiting
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>>153608203
Dende was an infant when he was brought to earth. He doesn't know much of anything.
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>>153607797
And the show is Doragon Bōru
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>>153608424
>No one likes zamasu or black
I didn't like it =/= nobody liked it

>that got many people fired
[citation necessary]
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>>153608434
but the entire population of namek lived on earth with piccolo for months.
Also, he merged with Nail, who lived his entire life on Namek.
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>>153608429
>That is literally DBZ ever past Namek and I frankly don't even see the problem.
Please tell me you're trolling.

>>Cell mentioned his powerlevel
>>powerlevels were mentioned at all past Namek
>Prove it then, I'll be waiting
Please god tell me you haven't been bitching about the actual numbers that have been applied to stuff rather then the concept of powerlevels.
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>>153608452
Haven't seen a single person that isn't on toei's payroll give it the thumbs up.

The director got fired I believe.
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>>153608480
>that fucking goalpost moving

Yes, I was always on about the numbers. Because you kept bringing them up. Sounds like you realized your mistake and now moved on to the ''concept''.
But let's also look at the concept of them, ver since Namek ''power-levels'' have been nothing but pure assumptions on looks and feats made by the characters or viewers/readers. THAT is why people still debate whether Super Buu or Kid Buu was stronger and literally all we have are feats and estimations that Goku made.
That is how DB has always been and how it always shall be
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>>153608436
You know that's not how works, right? It's Dragon Ball instead Doragon Bōru as Boo's reincarnation is Oob instead Ūbu
Now stop talking about shit you don't understand because your beloved dub names aren't accurate
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>>153608556
I'm going to let you in on something.
The only person who was able to give the things in DBZ weight was Toriyama. And he would always bring in power levels.
He would always bring up multipliers, and levels and make them all bullet proof so as to keep everything neat and tidy.

He had everything set up and it was all fully internally consistent.

There's a fucking reason they could apply numbers to everything and it would all make 100% fucking sense.

Because he could accurately show logical progressions and power levels. And would never allow something as retarded as SSJ2 Trunks being stronger then SSJ3 Goku which just completely destroys any ability to enjoy or understand how anything works and makes the entire thing feel like a lot of empty bright lights and sounds.

Buuhan is stronger then Kid Buu. Period.
There is no argument.
Kid Buu is however more dangerous then Buuhan.
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>>153608672
>no actual refutation of any of my points
>no evidence to back up all these claims
>goalpost moved back to the numbers
>lack of understanding that ''battle power'' has always been nothing but assumptions
>no refutation to that

I rest my case and accept your concession
By the way Tyrone, you don't need to make such long posts when they basically repeat the same thing
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>>153608672
why is SSJ2 Trunks being stronger than SSJ3 Goku can make sense
Trunk like Gohan is a half breed so they're going to be stronger than pure blooded saiyans if they keep up their training like Trunks did
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>>153608816

Also SSJ3 is a shit form.
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>>153608568
If you're going to use unromanized names, you need to use the unromanized title. Kururin isn't a dub name, it's the romanization of Krillin.

Beers/Bills fags need to fuck off as Toriyama has already stated the original pun on his name was "virus".
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>>153608871
Vegeta never even bothered to learn it so ya it is
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>>153608871
its a shit form STAMINA wise, not power wise
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>>153608568
>You know that's not how works, right?
>use non-romanized names and declare them as the correct ones
>but still call the show Dragon Ball instead of it's non-romanized name

Also 17 and 18 are never referred to as Lapis and Lazuli by name, it's trivia, not a dub/translation thing you fucking moron.

The only one you have a point on is Mark and Roshi/Baba.
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>>153608723
>>no actual refutation of any of my points
What points?
NO POWER NUMBERS! I WIN!!
That's your point. That's what you've been fucking arguing about.

>>no evidence to back up all these claims
You mean how Toriyama created internally consistent bullet proof power tiers and displays of power? That it was so internally consistent and rock solid that people could easily create a numerical system based on what toriyama shows and even mentions in interviews?

>>goalpost moved back to the numbers
Nope. You actually state that you're just bitching about numbers. You are.
I honestly thought you were bitching about the way toriyama set it all up.

>>lack of understanding that ''battle power'' has always been nothing but assumptions
No. Dumbass.
They have entire fucking things in DBZ where they outright state that this person has this level of "battle power" and they have multiple long goddamned eps training so that they could get a battle power equal too or higher then the other person or learn techniques that can defeat them.

>>no refutation to that
To what?


You're fucking stupid and you're bitching because you actually do not like dragon ball and wishes it was something else.
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we need a new thread
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>>153608886
>If you're going to use unromanized names
>missing the point so hard

>Beers/Bills fags
Thanks anon but I already see that you have no idea isn't necessary do it more obvious
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>>153608927
Wait so he was never called Satan in jap?
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>>153608927
>another one missing the point
OK

>Lapis and Lazuli it's trivia, not a dub/translation thing you fucking moron.
Who the fuck say is a dub/translation thing? Please anon stop making a fool of yourself.
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