Hoping for combo attacks in the tournament such as this.
They didnt have a few years, and gurus telepathy made it emotionally draining to lose his people. The real question you should be asking is why dendei doesnt reproduce and make more earthen namekians.
You're also forgetting that those Namekians are their own people with their own lives and personalities. Creating them just so they can fuse and give you stronger warriors sounds more like Freiza than Guru to me
It'd be funny if U7 team realizes that Goku is fighting for his own fun while every other universe is just fighting for their families and loved ones.
Then everyone has to sit Goku down and tell him to chill the fuck out with his fighting fetish.
her name seems to be Helles ?
What if Goku actually told Zeno to tell everyone that losers get erased but they dont actually intend to do it and it is simply so that people really try their best against Goku
This is the same guy that hired an Assassin against himself
>yfw Goku loses to Ayy but Vegeta goes toe-to-toe with him because Vegeta finally learned that true strength is fighting for his loved ones and his soon-to-be baby girl
a cute Saiyan we don't know the name of yet
>up until now bulma's been more of a main character than anyone but goku, vegeta and trunks
Daily reminder that Goku is now a literal fucking autist with zero regards besides fighting
he used to give a shit about people and actually get mad if they got destroyed or anything.
Now 11 universes are dead and he gives 2 fucks about it.
Also i dont remember him making me cringe like this scene. Fucking aspergers
>don't destroy the androids like bulma suggested
They were right about that though, you can't punish people for crimes they havent comitted yet
This is the same Bulma that openly lied to Beerus about her time machine
No, not Bardock. But rather, Bardock's fake SS form. I believe that Frieza's supernova, mixed with Bardock's blue energy ball not only sent the Saiyan warrior back in time, but caused a molecular reaction as well! It remolded his DNA, making him 10x stronger than before and helping him to achieve an extreme burst in power! Ok, I bet you think that's very interesting. But what does that have to do with my theory that 'Golden Oozaru' is the OSS? And if Bardock obtained these powers through DNA mutation, how did Goku, Vegeta and just about every Saiyan we've met on earth obtain them? Well I'm getting to that. Let's talk some more about Bardock.
What happened to him after he defeated Chilled with his new found powers? Well, since he did save them from death, you can imagine the inhabitants of Planet Plant made him their hero. He was most likely given a high position in power, maybe their king? No no, king is too small a title to give to the man that literally saved their planet. He guarded them from destruction! Guarded....guard...guardian!
So Clown GoD basically scooped up incredibly powerful fighters from different universes all for this tournament?
Could this mean that he had known of this tournament beforehand? Was he watching the U6/U7 tournament and wanted to get his hands on some Super Dragon Balls? Or is it just coincidence? These questions, they do not trouble me deeply but they have appeared to me lately and have caused me to think.
HATES EVERYTHING THAT ISNT BEAUTIFUL
IM A LITERAL CLOWN
HELLES IS GOING TO FREAK
Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister
>Pride Troopers from U11
>Post a saiyan from U6
>Universe 2 God of Destruction Heles
>The God of Destruction for Universe 2. She's extraordinarily beauty-conscious, and doesn't do well with anything ugly
>Universe 11 Warrior Toppo
>Leader of the hero team "Pride Troopers", guardians of peace in Universe 11. A hot-blooded and gigantic warrior of justice. He's so strong that he's even been scouted as a candidate for the next God of Destruction.
>yfw Toppo is stronger than Ayy lmao and the new opening was baiting us
So she's a narcissist? Does she eliminate all ugly ningens and planets?
Gero at that point had already committed several crimes against of humanity by virtue of being the one supplying weapons to the RR army.
Goku is a retard who doesn't have the faintest idea of what is a crime.
>those trash designs
Seriously, what the fuck? Make some good designs Toriyama.
No, Toei fuck up with the bios.
Lavenda is the poison user who wears the suspenders.
Bergamo is the red scarf wolf that goku will fight. Bergamo is the one who will have ability to take his opponent's Techniques and turn it into his own
>GoD of U9. Since he is indecisive, he has problems destroying things
Sounds like a guy you can share a beer with.
Vegeta has god powers now too.
Once attaining super saiyan god you can maintain its energies in your normal/"base" form. It's why Goku was btfoing frieza in his normal form in RoF
It's not entirely clear just how much power they retain though
And did we ever get an accurate answer as to how hard goku pushed beerus in their fight? BoG said 70%, super said 100% and I don't even remember what the manga said
I think they messed up with Bergano and Lavender's bio.
Here's how it should be.
>AKA "Poisonous Lavender". Second Elder of the Trio the Dangers. A warrior that can manipulate poison. Making use of poisons, he never fights fairly
>AKA "Crusher Bergano". Eldest of the Trio the Dangers. A warrior that can make use of an opponent's technique after receiving it
None of that contradicts the notion that they would be stronger than the initial SSJG from BoG.
Regardless the manga hints towards base Goku being equal to his previous peak in power in the RoF chapters.
"I think you’ll understand if you watch [the movie], but Goku has already absorbed [Super Saiyan] God’s power and made it his own, so there is no need for him to transform into [Super Saiyan] God. Goku basically only thinks of fighting as a sporting match, so borrowing the power of five people isn’t fair, and he resisted doing that; however, it seems his curiosity towards the realm that lay even further beyond him won out."
Quote by toriyama.
SSJG returning is an inconsistency, and your second example is bull because we don't actually get to see which form of god he used there.
Doesn't mean shit dude, just because he can still use the form it doesn't mean he doesn't have god ki/power in base
Nowhere does it says it is impossible for him to use it just that he doesn't need it.
But if you wanna go the retard route we can rule out the reappearance of SSJG as an inconsistency because the three versions of the RoF hint towards Goku having achieved god power in base on top of toriyama's quote.
i never thought that what people joke about universe 11 being a team of hero that try to stop goku's madness will turn out to be true.
Do you believe they will stop goku and his madness ?
I'm confused. Are they the GRAND Supreme Kais? Or just Supreme Kais?
The kai hierarchy is confusing to me.
That what it looks like,i start to think the vlown god is actually a case of a good clown instead of the typical bad clown.
After all, his kai is a good boy with good heart and believe in justice, and his team is a hero team.
>Heles is Universe 2
>was second to show up during the tournament
So I'm gonna assume
Furry is universe 1
Heles is 2
Robot is 3
Mouse is 4
Punk Rock fish is 5
Champa and Beerus are obviously 6 and 7, but Gowasu and his god were shown next and they're 10, so I'm gonna assume the fox is universe 8.
Sidra is 9
Elephant is 10
Clown is 11
Blue fish is universe 12
Each universe presumably has 4 supreme kais and 1 grand supreme kai. In Universe 7 all the kais but 1 died whereas in the others they're the grand supreme kais
That or toriyama just forgot but the headcanon works.
...What? So the 4 kais are just out of the picture now?
>Toriyama: Goku already have SSG's power in base form so he doesn't need go SSG anymore
>manga: Goku goes SSG again to for literal no purpose, according to you
OK sorry for my previous question, now I see you're actually stupid.
Hopefully they're grand supreme kais. I mean the universe 6 one looked just like the universe 7 one, just green.
Does Toriyama not look at Majin Buu and say "Oh yeahh that's right" or some shit? What about Toyo? Does he not talk about it?
What about the U6 Kai Attendant? What the fuck is he about?
Talking about canon (so ignoring every anime only Kaioshin from DBZ), there was 3 regular Kaioshin and one Grand Kaioshin. The Grand Kaioshin is the main one, and the others are just "back-ups". Since every Kaioshin except Shin die, he's the Grand Kaioshin now (but there's no reason to point the "Grand" since there's no back-ups for him, so he's called just "the Kaioshin"). Shin is the actual main (Grand) Kaioshin and every Kaioshin in the tournament is a Grand Kaioshin too. See Gowasu for another example, he have no back-ups, but if Zamasu had finished his training, Zamasu would be called "Kaioshin" and Gowasu "Grand Kaioshin". There's no more Kaioshin in Universe 10 so there's no point on call him "Grand".
Also even if the Grand Kaioshin from other universes actually have back-ups, there's no back-ups on the tournament so there's no reason to call them "Grand" neither.
This would hold true even if we were to ignore god ki in the first place.
People state outright that Base Goku after Powering up was his strongest appearance yet, the same held true for final frieza whom piccolo described to be out of this world despite being well aware of the existence of monsters such as super buu.
There is no way trunks could get 400x as powerful as super buu in the time he spent offscreen.
Wasn't Kibito the attendant for Shin and Zamasu was going to replace Gowasu?
Does Beerus not ask about what happen to the 4 kais? Also wasn't Gowasu planning to retire and train Zamasu to become a Kai to replace him?
OMG LOOK HOW HIT AND MAGETTA ARE PART OF THE U9 FURRY GROUP!!
GUYS THESE GROUP SHOTS IN THE OP ARE TOTALLY ONLY THE TEAMS FROM ONE UNIVERSE AND NOT MIXED AROUND AT ALL!!
WHO CARES IF U6 AND U7 ARE THE ONLY ONES WITH SAIYANS OR THAT SHE'S NOT WEARING A PRIDE TROOPER UNIFORM, SHE'S FROM THEIR UNIVERSE XDDD!!!
>Does Beerus not ask about what happen to the 4 kais?
He probably knows now. I mean, he already knows about Shin and old Kaioshin situation
>wasn't Gowasu planning to retire
I don't remember but still the same, that only means Gowasu was planning let Zamasu go straight to Grand.
> Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou",, Beerus is "Beers"
If you're going to be adamant and using non-romanized names you better also only refer to the series as Doragon Bōru.
Even still, Beerus is (ビルス, Birusu) and was originally a pun on"virus" in his original concept (Yūsuke Watanabe interview, GetNavi, March 2013) so Bills/Beers fags need to fuck off.
Wait. So let me get this straight and let's stick with canon.
Grand Supreme Kai(Shown) > North=South(Shown)=West=East(Shin/Shown) Supreme Kai > North(King/Shown)=South(Shown)=West=EastKai
Correct? Good. Now let's assume that
Are all Grand Supreme Kais excluding Shin. For each there are 4 supreme kais and 4 kais under their hierarchy, correct?
So apparently the Grand Supreme Kai is a role since Zamasu was going to replace Gowasu. Exactly what was Zamasu then? What's the point of the hierachy in the first place if U7 clearly doesn't give a shit about it anymore? Why don't they defuse Majin Buu to get Grand Supreme Kai back? Why didn't U6 Grand Supreme Kai say anything? Why didn't Beerus say anything? Is the Supreme Kai and Kai apple thing still canon?
You would have never known what Goku's vouce actor looked like had no one told you that Nozawa voiced him, fuck off
>we never saw what Shenrong said exactly about how SSG works
>Beerus never said Goku absorbed SSG power
>Goku was never shown fighting Freeza using his base form at the manga series
>they never mention Goku having god ki in base form at all
>months, months and months after his battle with Beerus Goku actually goes stronger via SSG twice
>so there's no statement or hint of Goku being a "saiyan beyond god" at the manga series, there's simply no reason for the reader to think that Goku's ki works different now instead he just have two new forms
>"not a retcon, it's just an inconsistency!"
OK anon, whatever you say. Isn't like we care about your delusions
I sincerely hope you don't believe otherwise
Unfortunately keeping the voice of a child is part of Goku's design choices because Toriyama thinks it would have been funny if his voice reflected his personality. It doesn't sound appealing to many but it's not unfitting.
>tfw like both the nip dub and the english dub
beerus and whis sound awful though
>Toei: Too lazy to do a new design for Vegetto
>DBH: There you go, new Vegetto, have fun
Toriyama said fuck it, there are always 4 normal Kias but anywhere from 1 to 3 Supreme Kais though there can be more.
The 5 supreme kais we were introduced to in the Buu saga aren't retconned
All that has been retconned is the role. See there is only one active supreme kai while the others are all just potential fill ins.
They can't control when their parent trees decide to shit out gold fruit, so sometimes you have 5 supreme core people at once and only one actually gets the job.
Personally, shit is far simpler this way, the system was getting needlessly complicated.
Also if you're a normal core person who wasn't born from golden fruit, but have trained an expanded your power to supreme levels you can be selected for the role. Zamasu was North Kai (11's equivalent of King Kai) but had reached supreme tier power.
I know this is bait but everyone knows the manga is more canon than the sunday morning cartoon adaptation.
So now it's
Grand Supreme Kai > Supreme Kai =/= Fill Ins > 4 Kais
So there are 4 kais but ONE supreme kai? Also Zamasu doesn't look like a regular kai. Kai's don't look like Supreme Kais at all.
>>we never saw what Shenrong said exactly about how SSG works
>>Beerus never said Goku absorbed SSG power
I fail to see how this proves anything at all, you might be retarded if you think this contradicts Toriyama's word, it doesn't even help your argument.
>>Goku was never shown fighting Freeza using his base form at the manga series
Too bad the actual movie and other depictions of the thing portray it, which means this was an idea in the original drafts from toriyama.
And still the manga has a panel of Goku training with Whis wich hints towards him having God power.
Just because we don't see it happen doesn't mean it didn't.
But lets just assume for a moment that it didn't like the huge fucktard you are, this only furthers the argument that the manga is inconsistent with the original drafts of toriyama regardless of his supposed involvement with it, so its depictions can't be used to rule out WoG.
OK I didn't get anything you posted
There's four Kaio, and each Kaio monitore one quadrant of the universe.
Then there's the Grand Kaio, its totally different from the other Kaio because is above them and this special Kaio rules the otherworld.
And then the big bosses, four Kaioshin. The Kaioshin monitore the universe too and (if there's Kaioshin enough) they can work for some specific quadrant of the universe as the Kaio do. One of those Kaioshin is the main one, called "Grand Kaioshin" by the other ones, and those others are back-ups. If the main (Grand) Kaioshin die, one of those back-ups take its place as the main (Grand) Kaioshin. Universe 10's Kaioshin already died (excepting Gowasu) so there's only one Kaioshin (who was instructing a new Kaioshin which worked as assistant before become a real Kaioshin) and Universe 7's Kaioshin were assassinated so the only Kaioshin alive is the main (Grand) Kaioshin from this universe too (who counts with an elder Kaioshin from some previous generation if it needs "tutelage").
I know that feel.
Though I like JP Beerus (really the deep and "evil" feel to it
and god I love that occasional tongue rolling) but I can't either either Whis.
The only character I truly cannot stand whenever I hear them is King Kai; his JP version is too "lax" ,for lack of better word, for how exaggerated he moves, talks and acts, especially when shouting. And his ENG voice is an ear-gouging shrill. It's just awful either way.
While there was an obvious distinction in appearance between normal kais and supreme kais, I don't think Toriyama cares anymore.
The general idea here is that they're all multi-colored goblin things.
Some of the new designs reflect that, such as Champa's fat supreme kai fitting in with classic normal kai designs.
>Champa's fat supreme kai fitting in with classic normal kai designs.
Wasn't that his Grand Supreme Kai though? He looked pretty similar to the U7 Grand Supreme Kai in my opinion.
I meant the english beerus and whis are awful. nip beerus is great in my opinion, partially because of that tongue rolling. I assumed king kai had that voice due to some cultural joke or something that I don't know of.
>World of Void
>It's a world without time or space, and filled with infinite nothingness.
Wow, how convenient, sounds like a nice place where GoDs can fight each other.
It's been simplified.
There are 4 normal kais. The Grand Kai may or may not be a thing, the burnt out hippie design for the grand kai was anime only and was never really a character so it's possible it isn't canon.
There is a supreme kai above all. Now it seems that the supreme kai pantheon is no longer a replica of the normal kai pantheon and there seems to be one active supreme kai.
In universe 7 there is only Supreme Kai, but there used to be five with their fat leader, the Grand Supreme Kai.
Now it seems that this system might not be universal and that in most universes there is only one supreme kai.
From what I've heard, there are anywhere from 1-3 golden fruit born core people born at a time and those who aren't kai are fill-ins.
In this case, the Grand Supreme Kai was once simply the Supreme Kai and his 4 other supreme kais were fill-ins.
I some of you are watching DB for the 1st time in its original language and eat anything they'll feed you on original Goku because you grew up with USupermAn Goku, but Original Goku has nearly nothing in common with Super Retarded Goku, the only thing in common is the I want to fight, but Original Goku would never sacrifice anyone for his need to fight. He might take gambles which most of the time payed off but he wouldn't outright doom trillions at minimum for his need of fight.
It's kinda like how people were joking that they wanted Zamasu to be reincarnated as a cute loli but then the angel of Universe 10 ended up being one
>Goku is fighting for fun
>U11 is fighting to fucking survive
why even support Goku anymore
Let's see what Beerus' VA did in the past and...
Because even Toriyama realized that sometimes it's fun to root for the bad guy.
And for once, we don't know if the bad guy or the good guy is going to win. It's like the first time that's happened in DB history. In the end everything will probably turn out fine (though it would be hilarious in a really sad way if everyone but U7 does go extinct), but up to that point it's hard to tell who will come out on top.
>gets the super dragon balls
>"Quickly someone make him wish to bring back the other universes"
>Goku: "Alright, I made a promise and I'm going to keep it"
>Goku: "I wish that King Kai and his friends would come back to life!"
Well obviously, but we don't know the HOW. Like it is entirely possible that Universe 7 will lose to Universe 11, but Goku will show them that he isn't actually that bad a guy and that he didn't actively WANT the other universes to be erased.
The whole deal with the Omni King could resolve in any number of ways and the fact that the Super Dragonballs were brought in could even be a red herring to make you THINK that Goku will wish for all the Universes that were destroyed to be restored.
I'd laugh, then I'd hate Goku even more, then I'd laugh again.
It wouldn't take much for one of the other more sane characters with the ability to traverse the Universe to go searching for the Super Dragonballs again and actually make the wish to bring back the other Universes though once they regen.
>Goku gets yelled at by absolutely everyone for being a retard again and gets chased into the horizon with Bulma leading the charge
>End Super with the two characters that started Dragon Ball
>That's our Goku/Kakarot/Son !
When is the next chapter coming out? I can't go back to watching the anime after realizing how terrible it is compared to the manga
>Heles will never suck your dick while calling you ugly
When has Vegito's hair been a color other than black? Kid Buu is also clearly powered up to massive extremes in this fanfiction what if card game and Vegito doesn't have a Super Saiyan 4 form in DBH or any other media, hell Vegito didn't even go Super Saiyan in that PV.
It's officially released on the 21st so roughly around the 20th in western time.
Expect leaks to be out roughly a day or two in advance like the 19th of the month.
Sweet. Here anon, take this scene of Goku not acting like a retard as my thanks
>So far Dragon Ball Super has followed Toriyama-sensei‘s plot, but I think it might be interesting for Toyotarō-sensei to become more involved with the story-writing process from here on out!
Good idea!! I bet it’ll make it more interesting to include Toyotarō-sensei‘s original ideas.
T-That’s so much pressure… (sweat). But I think it’ll be really cool to help Dragon Ball someday reach its final chapter.
Oh, that’s good! People will go “Wow, Toriyama-sensei planned it all out from the beginning!” and I’ll look really cool (laughs).
>Son Goku (Xeno)
>Trunks (Xeno) - edgier than before
>Son Gohan (Xeno)
>Son Goten (Xeno)
>That Demigra-looking motherfuker
Heroes is that thing that I don't know if I want to keep up with. On one hand, I love seeing official hypothetical transformation designs like Super Saiyan 3 Gohan. On the other hand, all this dark Xeno shit just seems so stupid.
Just out of curiosity, I create a waifu / husbando poll to find out the degeneracy composition that makes up /a/ DBS threads, ranging from underage lolis. sluts, MILFs, homofaggotry to furfaggotry.
All of you including myself are part of this cancer I just want to see the ratios of cancer .
>Are all Grand Supreme Kais excluding Shin
They are all supreme kai. Born from golden shinjin fruit. Each universe has multiple supreme kai but only one is the main leader, the "grand" supreme kai. Since the old one was dead, Shin took his place because Elder is retired and Kibito is less experienced.
Because he does it out of love for the community and he probably doesn't care about monetizing any content for himself.
He does however act as a reoccurring guest on Geekdom's channel where I'm sure he gets a portion of the viewership income on those videos.
OK guys her name is "Jerez" (spanish sherry)
Sorry for helles fans but Japan loves Spain too much
I miss this old fellow, he was merely a Roshi clone but he was one of my favorite designs and personalities.
I fucking hate it when people say Dragon Ball is better than Z. Surely that's the shittiest of all hipster/contrarian opinions.
I just finished reading the Dragon Ball manga again and then reached the first few chapters of Z. The difference is staggering, the Saiyan saga is just in a different tier compared to everything in Dragon Ball.
Everything is just opinion.
With that said, I think some of the early Tenkaichi Budokai fights such as Tenshinhan vs Goku or Piccolo vs Goku are amazing on their own terms that was really the catalyst to boost the popularity of the show and the battle aspect over the adventuring.
He should really practice on getting some real world japanese practice instead of relying on Herms 100% all the time.
Last week he rushed out a episode review saying that the contestants don't get any prizes for the tournament because Herms said they wouldn't.
Later on Herms corrected himself with a tweet about the Super Dragon Balls but Geekdom would refuse to acknowledge he fucked up.
>Calls himself an og Dragon Ball historian
>Mangles Japanese at every turn
>MA BOI GOHAN APPEARED ON SCREEN WILL HE BE A NERDLINGER JABRONI OR RETURN TO THE OUT OF CHARACTER EDGY 9 YEAR OLD I CAN JERK OFF TO
>calling young gohan an edgelord at any point
Wow. What an edgy person trying to kill cell, just the guy who has killed countless people and will kill literally everyone else if he isn't stopped.
Underrated Outro for GT, almost forgotten about.
Geekdom is an idiot sometimes.
For an example he recently did an Episode 5 review of the Dub, praising it for putting in minor detail such as Beerus calling King Kai "Kai of the North".
He didn't fact check because that exact same detail was present in the original Japanese version.
Couldn't Zamasu have been the Supreme Kai of the North and Gowasu the Grand Supreme Kai?
I mean look at >
It says here that Zamasu is the apprentice of the KING of the 10th universe
>Trying to kill
>There are people who unironically think SS2 Gohan wasn't Shadow the Hedgehog
I wonder if Vegeta will actually hit him like he did back when he let Trunks, Gohan, and Goten die. They've really been building up how dedicated he's become to his family, even more so than to fighting or keeping up with Goku, and then this asshole has to ruin things on his daughter's birthday.
That was the best Gohan faggot.
He had the most potential as a warrior, with his mixed blood, and his little spazz outs as a kid, it was the only time we got to see gohan fight as a badass.
Your a fucking loser sonicfag for comparing him bro.
Spoilers are reasy out on mangamint no idea where the source is from though.
Then I'll just dump everything.
>gains ability to use max power in base
>doesn't have to worry about the strain transforming brings
What's his excuse?
That is all.
Mangamint usually only rip and post the furst batch of spoilers from whatever site they got it from.
So maybe there is more if you know where it is from or if you check your usual sources.
>You're a bad man.
What a difference between this and his portrayal in Super.
Rather than a flashback, I wonder if this might be something like Kaioshin and Gowasu popping up to rescue Trunks and then Black slices Gowasu, who is healed by Kibito afterwards.
They are both canon for their own respective mediums.
However if you were to compare them and rate them by how much Toriyama himself is involved then the manga is much more "canon" than the anime's continuity.
Demon God Dabra, actually.
Xeno Dabra has a different design(pic relate)
Kid Demigra is actually the new Avatar, the Demon God Avatar
>He didnt understand
We all know that Goku is not a paragon of goodness but you people really just like to make-up shit and tergiverse facts just to make Goku look worse than he actually is
>I write an outline of the entire plot, then the script writers break it up into episodes, expanding on things, changing things around, or adding in new bits as need be.
>Even I haven’t checked the final script yet.
>Let’s enjoy this together (laughs)!!
>he used to give a shit about people and actually get mad if they got destroyed or anything.
He literally allowed Piccolo a free punch to make their showdown fair.
That was at the stage when Piccolo still openly professed his desire to do the same shit as Demon King Piccolo and raze the world for lulz if he manages to defeat Goku. That was also at the stage where afterlife did not have a revolving door.
How this is suddenly better than ACCIDENTALLY causing a disaster, and refusing to display unproductive angst or rage (at the stage where he was witnessing all sort of mass destruction events being easily undone for decades) I don't know.
>toying with them will eventually cost him his life
So manga black is a retard just like anime black?
Also Black looks REALLY mad when doing that eye glare which is contradicting because considering how powerful ROSE black is he must have been REALLLLLLLY holding back with that.
>implying anime-Black was shit because he played with his enemies as every other villain
>also implying you can't holding back yourself if you're angry, especially when Black is holding back precisly because he's mad and want to make Trunks and Mai suffer
>refusing to display unproductive angst or rage
This really does make all the difference. People like to bring up Goku pitting Gohan against Cell, but as soon as Piccolo even suggested that Gohan didn't enjoy this Goku was immediately horrified.
SS2 Trunks vs SSR Black
Anime: gif related
"b-but manga powerlevels are fucked up too, I swear!
I think the main problem with Goku is his overconfidence. That's genuine his main issue and it seems that he had it since ever. He cares for his people and world but his fighting boner along with him getting cocky get him in problems.
Not confirmed, since there's still no scan, but on 2ch there are V Jump spoilers saying that apparently not every universe was designed by Toriyama
Toriyama designs - 4, 6, 7 and 9
Toyotaro designs - 1, 3, 5, 8, 10, 12
Joint work - 2 and 11
Dragon Ball search=fun and amusing
Jackie Chun tournament=boring until finals
Baba mini tournament=ZZZZZZZ...
Tien tournament=pretty good
Piccolo Jr. tournament=Awesome
Sure anon, you're totally right, nobody could say the otherwise.
Krilin and goku just got him a bunch of space weed from the afterlife, perhaps he was using all his ki to keep himself alive and now he doesnt have to use that energy to keep his body functioning because hes got the spaceweed.
You guys are full of bullshit, it just means that Goku can go into God mode without the ritual since he absorbed it, that does not mean that his base form is as strong as God form, he is not implying that anywhere.
He said he got immortality from the immortal phoenix in the beginning of the manga- but the turtle mentions that it had just died from food poison and so couldn't give immortality to Goku and Bulma.
Later Roshi lies to Tenshinhan that he got immortality from an elixir of immortality, and so wouldn't die facing Piccolo.
>SSJG returning is an inconsistency
Except in the very movie Toriyama mentions there Goku power ups back into SSJ God after a point where he supposedly already had absorbed its power.
Toriyama's actual work > Stuff he makes up at the moment for an interview
>disliking based Tao
I was just watching that Super scene in which Trunks arrives in the past, with the pointless Pilaf and gang comedy ruining the tone, and couldn't help but notice how much better the drama and comedy was divided in the original Dragon Ball and how the jokes were actually funny. Goku meeting with Gohan for the first time is one of the best and most emotionally poignant scenes in the franchise period.
People tell you why they prefer Dragon Ball all the time. Actual martial arts instead of characters screaming and charging ki blasts for five episodes, creative and interesting techniques that aren't just blast and then an even bigger blast, a more generalized focus throughout the entire cast so that even Yamcha and Tien are prominent, creative locations such as Korin's Tower, Kami's Lookout, and even that mushroom forest in Yamcha's desert, when compared to how boring Namek or every wasteland in DBZ was, great character interaction all around, and an emphasis on battle strategy instead of overwhelmingly on power levels.
His God absorbed SSJ in the movie still paled in comparison to regaining the SSG form if you really think about it though.
In the moment of the final climax, his SSG power absorbed SSJ form couldn't even come close to stopping Beerus' destruction ball.
When he re-sparked the SSG fire within him and transformed one last time on his own he was finally able to neutralize that blast.
Kaioshin is more useful in the manga version of the Black arc than he ever was in the original series. I really wonder how this will end though, since Trunks still hasn't gotten a power up.
Naw U11 is best universe not fodder
The article seems to be just about the Gods of Destruction themselves, not the teams or Kai. It also supposedly reveals all of their names and universe number... although the way the spoiler was posted the name list is fairly useless since we don't know who is who anyway.
817 名前:風の谷の名無しさん＠実況は実況板で＠無断転載は禁止 [sage] :2017/02/17(金) 15:49:36.05 ID:lF0x9sxy
>18 mirroring 17
>18 and 17 both fight the same and team up in tag team matches.
>Fox god does something important in the torunament
>looks like a house when you squint your eyes
>fox god blows up a building or something
All these new leaks are great.