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How much Japanese can I learn by watching tons of subbed anime?

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How much Japanese can I learn by watching tons of subbed anime?
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Not that much. Proof: me.
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Not much unless you have a very sharp ear or are watching it in slo mo.
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>>153553138
None. You'll remember easy popular words like "NANI" or "shikata ga nai" but won't learn any of the characters or structure. You will learn nothing. Start flipping Anki decks.
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>>153553183
how the fuck do toddler learns language then?
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>>153553138
Been watching anime for 20 years, I know what umi da means.
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>>153553297
They go to school.
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>>153553297
They don't just sit down in front of the TV with subtitles.
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>>153553138
Hardly. If you start learning japanese properly though, anime can be a great helper to fixate grammar and vocabulary on your brain imo
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>>153553138
>How much Japanese can I learn by watching tons of dubed anime?
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I know a bunch but I have worked in sub groups so I know a little more than tha average watcher. Taking beginner lessons in /djt/ did way more than over 10 years of watching did.
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>>153553138
I learned enough that I can watch raw anime and understand 90%
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>>153553138
You'll remember like 5 different phrases, and then come to /a/ and say stupid shit like "I've watched enough anime that I can understand basic Sol without subs."
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>>153553405
I did, that was my introductory learning in the english language
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While you'll pick up on some commonly used words and expressions, the language is so different from English that you will never really understand it just by listening. You'll need to study it the normal way, with textbooks and tons of practice.
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>>153554144
What was your first language though? You didn't learn solely off the TV.
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>>153553297
Kids are much better at learning languages.
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>>153554429
Not that guy but my niece learned english from solely watching tv when she was 3. By the time she started kindergarten she spoke it as fluently as any other 5 year old.
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>>153554429
it was the earliest foreign language I learned, although I can´t state that watching TV and just absorbing it was a preferable learning process. I did learn some other important rules and linguistics in school, but just watching English documentaries and cartoons enabled me to speak fluently and do proper phrase construction by the time I was 8.
Like this anon's niece >>153554545
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>>153553138
All of it.
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>>153553138
you'll actually learn something if you learn basic hirigana/katakana playing Eroge with a machine translator while actually trying to figure out what it says.
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>>153553138
Nani
desu
senpai

That's about it it
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>>153554699
If your native language is german, spanish or italian I could see this working.
They all have similar grammatical structures and share many cognates to English
Japanese has a different order to Subject/Verb/Object, is character based and doesn't share much in common at all with english.

Not saying it can't be done, but it's a big jump
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>>153553138
First of why do you want to learn Japanese?
If its for pleasure just get an english to jap dictionary. If you are serious about learning it start by translating texts that way you can understand the writing than afterwards take a class to practice speech
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>>153554850
Nani?
Watashinonamaeha Anondesu.
Watashi wa nihongo o rikai suru, anata wa orokadesu.

I can type romanji, that's about it, I haven't tried learning past that
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>>153555011
This is gold, like a drunk guy trying to explain how to build a rocket
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>>153553138
You'll only pick up certain words and phrases, beyond that not much.
I mean you can definitely use anime as practice by watching raws and seeing if you understood anything.
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I can read hiragana and katakana, didn't have problems with the kanji used in mahjong and can watch hentai without subs.
So that's like 1% of japanese knowledge that came from watching anime. Yay.
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>>153555100
Amazing
I guess we're all Alice now
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I've have only learn Yamete and itai
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>>153553138
You can learn a pretty decent amount of conversational Japanese. Enough to use as a starting point to understanding the language and learning more.
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>>153553138
a few words

>>153553297
their parents
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>>153553138
If you understand Japanese grammar and sentence structure, you'll be able to pick up a fair deal of words and phrases.
Otherwise your screwed.
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>>153553138
None, outside of single words like "hai", "nani" and sometimes a name or two. It all sounds like gibberish to anyone who doesn't speak it, as any language does when you can't understand it.
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>>153555184
Watch more than Kiznaiver.
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>>153554926
Portuguese, a Roman-Arabic hybrid, which is a latin-originated language like german or spanish, script and everything. So I guess it just came naturally i suppose, if you put a phrase of a latin based language next to a niponese one, the grammar-translation method just doesn't work
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>>153555244
This.

You need to have a grammar base to make sense of it. I watched anime for years and could only pick up some phrases here and there but after studying the language for 3 years I've been learning lots of new vocabulary thanks to the grammar knowledge I have.
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>>153555011
>wa
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>>153553138
Probably a few common phrases
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>>153555359
Romaji is phonetic baka gaijin kun
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>>153555475
>not using superior Nihon-siki
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>>153555475
Don't women use watashi while men use horewa ?
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>>153555736
No, that's not how it works at all. Most men use watashi too.
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>>153555736
>that guy that uses ore or omae in the japanese class
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>>153555806
what's wrong ?
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>>153553297
well, they eventually grow up and go to fucking school, for one.
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>>153555806
The landwhales going on about being a kawaii desoo nay nayko are probably more infuriating to Japanese teachers
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>>153553938
I'd understand 99% of churned out modern sol anime without subs & without audio.
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>>153555806
And then there's this kisama-yatsu...
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>>153553938
More like stupid shit like "I can't stand these fucking memesubs"
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>>153553297
They have sponge brains. There have been instances of toddlers learning 3+ languages at once growing up just by being around people who speak the. They're not like us.
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>>153553330
>>153555938
Apparently children below 7 can't even understand what everyone is saying.

I assume OP meant understanding/speaking. You can't learn reading/writing from anime. I can understand like 50% of what is said without subtitles.

Then again I moved around a couple countries and had to learn 3 different languages as a kid so I guess I became better at it than most.
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>>153555806
>that qt japanese teacher's assistant that laughed at you when you used "ore"

B-boku wa kankei nai...
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>>153555980
That's because you know the stock jokes and can actually see what's going on, not because you understand spoken Japanese.
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>>153556172
>Actually taking a Japanese class
>Not just hitting the DJT then moving to Japan
>Not being manly enough that using ore is normal for you unless you're speaking with your boss
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>>153556237
>DJT
I understand the wonders of self-learning but a teacher, a native one, is better.
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>>153556289
Having a native speaker to ask questions to is nice. That's why you make friends on lang8. That has the benefit of being able to ask questions whenever you want, being free, and best of all you don't have to deal with Naruto watching low level weebs.
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>>153553138
Like 3 words. Study if you want to learn (and use anki).
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>>153553138
After you finish a series you like, rewatch it was Japanese subtitles and pay attention to the sounds. Also try to repeat what the characters are saying. I know it sounds autistic, but it's a good way to learn.
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>>153559599
Oh yeah, and it'll also help of you read up on a bit of Japanese grammar before hand. Tae-kim's guide is pretty good. Also spend the time to teach yourself Kana, there's 50 of them and it's not too hard to learn.

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar
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>>153554926
Russian here. Went through similar experience with English, desu.
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>>153555806
>that fujo whose badly pretending to be a guy who uses boku
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>>153553297
What all those other people said.

Not to mention watching anime is a little different from actually interacting with others in another language, which young children are forced to do. If you were to watch anime, and actually study what they said, you'd be able to pick up basic spoken japanese.

But really, you're better off doing some coursework or else you'll just sound like a generic anime character.
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dostedt
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>>153553138
>How much Japanese can I learn by watching tons of subbed anime?

Subbed? Next to nothing

You need to watch it without subtitles
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>>153564137
Yes
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I try not to read the subs when possible. I can understand some basic stuff and phrases. No, you will not learn Japanese from watching cartoons.
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>>153553297
Feedback and absolute immersion on a blank slate.
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You'd have to learn gammar at some point. I don't really want to read books, but that's about it.
>>153555100
>never tried to explain important matters of rocket science while being wasted
That's exactly how it feels, yeah. For instance as non-native english speaker I struggle to explain things that even slightly involves specialized aspects like physics. FIrst moment you are confident in things you're abot to say, next moment uncranny spaghetti comes out.
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>>153553138
If you've already learned a few other languages and have a decent understanding of communication and linguistics in general, quite a lot. About two years ago I realized I could listen to seiyuu radio with little effort, and started doing that to supplement my anime watching. Sadly you still have to memorize the kana and thousands of kanji so it's not quite possible to learn it all through remote immersion learning.
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>>153564756
I really hate the fact that I learned math using my native terms and shit. I can easily follow math lectures in English, but giving them requires just that little bit of extra effort thanks to having those terms drilled into me through years of use.
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>>153555806
Ore-sama is the only correct way to address yourself. All others are onore, omae, kisama, temee, or anta. The only thing you should say to a proper nihongo is kusokurae and jisatsu wo shite. and with that, you are well on your way to mastering the nipponjin language.
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Is it okay to learn Japanese only up to receptive bilingual levels?
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>>153553435
Yeah, pretty much this.

I mean how often is "get in the robot" going to come up in everyday conversation?
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>>153553297
young kids spend their time totally immersed in the language for a year+ (including during the pregnancy) before starting to speak it
also younger children are just better at learning languages quickly
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>>153554850
i still don't understand the meaning of desu
i know ITADAKIMAAAAASU~ though
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>>153565928
kaka
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>>153553138
The best benefit is probably training your ears to better hear the syllabic idiosyncrasies of Japanese. This should help in spoken conversational Japanese.

I can understand most lewd ASMR videos just from having "learned" from anime subs. Granted, the language is much more simplified. Actually studying a textbook simultaneously, like the Genki series, would probably increase your language gains exponentially though.
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>>153553297
My understanding is that children's brains are more malleable for learning things due to their neural pathways not being completely formed yet. I mean, according to my parents I learned english well before my native tongue because apparently as a baby my grandparents would care for me with my grandpa basically cradling me while he would spend most of the day watching CNN.
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>>153553297
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_period
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>>153553138
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq_1p_zcsQA
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>>153553138
Pretty sure you ain't ever going to use Asuka's sentences with real people, in any language.
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>>153553138
I did this to practice
Finish basic grammar and hiragana
Maybe do basic 500 kanji
Then find anime that has Japanese subtitles with furigana, it's hard to find but it's very good practice.
Add all words you don't know too Anki deck.


Probably not the best way to learn but I prefer it over just doing Anki all day.
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I know a fair few kanji and can interpret maybe 70% of the text I see outside of kanji dense newspapers, but I keep on dragging my feet on learning grammar. I find it incredibly dull and impenetrable.
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>>153553297
Toddlers are fucking impressive dude. They're bloody annoying when they cry but holy shit these wankers are smart.
Some of them learn multiple languages in a couple years.
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>>153553183
Vocabulary is vocabulary, you learn it from anything.
Of course, you still have to commit and study if you want to go anywhere.
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just read some manga and mine it into an anki deck.
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>>153556129
>Apparently children below 7 can't even understand what everyone is saying.
Your child must be mentally handicapped then
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>>153568019
What I just don't understand is how they learn that they're separate languages. I get learning shit real quickly because your brains aren't done yet but the fact that I could actually differentiate between the arbitrary sounds that followed eachother in one language and another at that age is fucking insane to me,
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>>153570876
I never actually thought about that.
What the fuck kids. Teach me how you do it.
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>>153553138
No, you can not.
The thing most people don't understand about language is that it's a two-way system. It was made for communication and not just understanding the basic principles.

It's why 90% of people who take language classes don't really learn the languages they're taking classes for. To learn a language, you need feedback and conversation from someone else who is considered a master or at least adept at that language. It's why people grow up with miserable accents from being around other people with miserable accents.

It's also why college and high school language classes suck dick. They have you interact with other people who don't understand the language either. Then they give you a test which would be too simple for even a first-grader in the country of origin.

You're watching subtitled anime, so you don't even get the benefit of being able to talk with another person. Talking back and having to understand the sentence structure of what you're saying is the majority of language and most of why people can learn it through osmosis.

No, typing random shit in the imageboard doesn't count.
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>Watch anime subs my whole life
>go to japan
>surprised to learn that I understand japanese conversations
>people tell me things in japanese and I can reply back basically but they can talk and I can get what they're talking about

I probably should seriously start learning japanese to capitalise on this.
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You'll probably learn a little bit of it, enough to get by.

Folks here are gonna make fun of you, but watching TV in your language of choice is the first step to learning a language. Jackie Chan learned how to speak English well enough by watching sesame street, I don't see why learning basic Japanese through watching their television is so far out there.

Course, all you're really learning is stock phrases. You wouldn't be able to read or write or carry a conversation. It's a good springboard, though.
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一人の少年がとある少女に恋をします。

直接告白することはできず、なんとか彼女の電話番号を手にした彼は、変な電話番号にもあまり気にせず電話をかけるのですが、実は彼女も彼のことが大好きで、両思いだったのです。このことに気づいた彼は大喜びするのでした。

しかし翌日、彼が昨日のことについて話そうとすると彼女は困った顔をします。昨日彼が電話で話した相手は今彼の前にいるその女の子ではなかったのでした。実は、電話機の向こうの彼女はこの宇宙には存在していませんでした。彼女は並行世界の者だったのです。その並行世界では、逆に彼女が彼に片思いをしていたのですが、並行世界の自分は彼女のその思いに気づいていなかったのです。

何だかんだで、電話で知り合った二人はある取り引きをします。自分のもっとも深く、プライベートな秘密を分け合うことで、相手にいわゆる「並行世界の自分の必勝攻略法」を教え合うのです。

その作戦をもってそれぞれ好きな人を追いかけまわる間に、彼らは自分の世界よりも電話機の向こうの相手のことがもっと好きになってしまいます。お話はそういう恋の本質について問いかけます。

>ケイト愛ってのはざっとこんなもんらしい。
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>>153570995
I had a cousin from south america who learnt english literally just from browsing the internet and picking it up over time
Neither of his parents speak english so i don't think he got it from them
to be fair he did speak rather autistic
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>>153570876
You can do it now, you're just set in your ways. That's why kids adapt to new technology; they have no frame of reference so they just approach something head on.

That and as an adult you can walk away from something if you find it difficult, which most people do. Kids are forced to learning these languages by the people around them.

This applies to just about everything too in fact. It's easier for an adult to learn how to play the piano than a kid, but adults have a harder time doing the requisite rudimentary practices because they get bored.
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>>153570995
I don't disagree with the main point you're making, but the question was "how much" and not "can I become a perfectly native sounding master of Japanese by just watching anime?". Nobody here is treating learning a language like some binary switch from know-not to know.
No method is as fast as going to the country in question and talking to its native speakers, but the question is, can you learn basic conversation from consuming media in a language? Yes you can.
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>>153553138
I started to learn Japanese not long ago.
Well you can't learn the characters with anime but I feel like you can learn a lot of day to day vocabulary and names by watching SoL shows for example.
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>>153571209
I understand that I can learn languages now, in fact I am. What I'm saying is that while right now I can tell when something is Japanese that I should be saving it in my Japanese knowledge-base, a child with no frame of reference but people making random sounds around it should have no way to label those sounds as belonging to different categories, simply because they don't yet even understand the concept of language.
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>>153553138
You'll learn interjections and pronunciations, although the latter comes heavily from singing along with the opening and ending. If you want more than that, turn off the subs.
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>>153567480
>CNN
Wow you must be completely fucked in the head.
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>>153571263
Not only do they lack a frame of reference, but in the beginning they don't know ANY language.

Think about it. When you're learning another language you're using English or your mother tongue to draw parallels, remember traps, explain complex things and create mnemonics.
A child can't even do that, because they have no language to think with. That's borderline scary to me.
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>>153571263
The languages are almost always used exclusively of each other. That's a pretty easy delineation.
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>>153571263
Because you're treating it like a completely separate language. I'm not really bilingual, but the Spanish I did learn I learned from my grandmother when I was a wee-Anon. I don't have categories for these languages; I just think it and say it. You don't talk in slang during a job interview; Hell, most people shift their accent and dialect based on the group they're talking to subconsciously.

Learning a language through a book alone is very difficult; we're programmed to take cues from each other and correct our speech from that. My point is, don't think of it as a separate language; think of it as language that you don't always get to use all the time.
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>>153571600
>You don't talk in slang during a job interview; Hell, most people shift their accent and dialect based on the group they're talking to subconsciously.
But like, those are things children are extraordinarily bad at and have to be forced to learn with ridiculous things like taboos on "cussing", "the N word" etc. We have whole moral codes set up just to teach children to not say certain things at certain times.
I kind of get your point, but I also wonder if that really is what causes kids to use the right one at the right time.
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>>153571832
Speech isn't exactly innate; if you don't learn it at the right age you don't learn it all. I'm only saying that once you do learn it, it's all the same part of the brain.

Kids have to learn to not use curse words specifically because people do use them and they pick up on it.
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>>153571138
仕方を見つける
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うちはDJTがここに戻りたいや。
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>>153553138
Enough Japanese to make you look retarded.
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>>153553297
they literally have nothing else to do
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>>153572725
>referring to oneself with うち
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>>153570995
I learned english from browsing the internet, along with vidya.

My pronuntiation was a bit rough for the first couple days when I was in the US, but it didn't take long for it to start flowing.

It's a bit more complicated with japanese though, since there's a lot more syntactic differences.
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I've gotten to the point where I can understand it when characters have standard conversation. It's quite sad.
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>>153553297
Immersion

Age actually isn't a huge factor, it's just that total immersion for months at a time doesn't happen for adults outside of certain governmental training
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>>153570995
How do people learn dead languages like Latin or Sanskrit then?
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What if you learned Japanese words in their Romaji counterpart and just skipped the Kanji?
Or would that just complicate things later?
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>>153573397
But then you can't read books in Japanese, and that's a shame. And to be fair, learning Kanji is a lot of fun.
Also maybe that's just me, but I feel that knowing the Kanji helps me understand spoken Japanese better. I kind of "see" the Kanji when people are talking and it's helpful
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>>153570995
>Talking back and having to understand the sentence structure of what you're saying is the majority of language and most of why people can learn it through osmosis.
>No, typing random shit in the imageboard doesn't count.
You're so wrong on this.
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>>153573397
If you're planning to learn the written language you should start studying kanji and kana immediately.
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>>153573397
I've heard many people say "I'll just learn spoken Japanese, I'm not going to bother with the kanji" but I've never met anyone who had achieved any level of competency in the language without learning to write too. It's hard to explain, but I promise that kanji make the whole language more understandable.
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>>153573650
i don't know how japanese works but i'm guessing it helps to see how sentences are broken down instead of just hearing it, especially if you only know english.
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>>153553138
None.

It won't even keep your language skill ticking over.

If all you do is watch animu, your language ability will actually decrease.

There's no substitute for active study. None.
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>>153571320
I guess you are right
My english pronunciation sucks less than my peers thanks to all the time I wasted singing american songs.
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>>153570995
You've clearly never done a university language course.

Year 1 (or 1-2 in a system that does electives): JLPT5-JLPT3, small classes, native instructors
Year 2 (or 3): gap year in Japan, learning Japanese from Japanese in Japanese
Year 3 (or 4): preparation for honours exam which is roughly equivalent to the English exams you'd take in highschool if you were one of the smart kids.

If your country does four-year degrees, years 1-2 will be padded out with something like Chinese, Vietnamese, Asian-studies, East-Asian history, etc. etc.
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Once you know that Japanese is an SOV language and start trying to pick up words instead of just blankly read the subs you can start to learn more words and can start to figure out how to form sentences.

Speaking and writing/reading nip are two different beasts tho. You will never learn a significant amount of kanji without writing them each hundreds of times or learning to pick apart the kanji and decode it from there. Then, even if you can read them, writing what you want to say is something else entirely.
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>>153564282
>a blank slate.
this is the key word

making opinions and thinking about stuff in a language stops you from thinking about that other language

the key is to turn off the subtitles, and don't think about anything in any language you know, don't think how fat that character is, don't thinking how strange something is. reverse to a child mind of total blankness and you will learn like one
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>>153553138
Nothing, since most of the seasonal anime airing have their entire scripts changed because of muh lack of understanding of japanese culture. It's garbage.
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>>153554766
>machine translator
That reminds me, about 10 years ago I was playing Popotan, and Mii kept saying "the brother tounge". It wierded me out. Was she just saying "onii-chan"?
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>>153553297
They listen to people speaking for years.
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>>153553138
All of it.
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>>153553138
I've learned plenty and am almost fluent. I certainly didn't waste my time watching all those shows, right?
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>>153571138
道を見つけた




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>>153571138
掲示しないでください。これは本当に存在だけど。

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/keit-ai/list?title_no=36825
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>>153571138
>一人の少年がとある少女に恋をします。

What did she mean by this?
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>>153553435
/thread
You won't learn it through anime alone because the subs often aren't literal translations anyway, but it'll help a lot.
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>>153555011
"ロマーンジー"wwwww
キサマは馬鹿だぞ
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>>153566988
It means "is/am/are"
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>>153554766
One of my earliest attempts at studying Japanese was sitting down with a raw copy of the Sailor V manga and a kana chart, looking up each individual kana, then looking up the words in an online dictionary afterwards.

Good times.
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>>153571138

男の子は女の子と恋に落ちます。

告白することができません、彼は女の子の電話番号にデウスエクスマキナによって才能れます。奇妙なエリアコードを気にすることはありません、彼はすぐに彼女を呼び出し、彼女は同様に彼に片思いを持っていることを見つけるために大喜びされています。

彼は女の子に前日の自白を語るときには、次の日には、彼女は唯一の当惑した表情で彼を見ます。いくつかの調査の後、彼はと呼ばれる少女は、彼が恋に落ちた同じ女の子ではないことを知ります。実際には、彼女がすべてでこの宇宙に存在しません。彼女はあまりにも彼女のクラッシュの穏やか気づかない主人公自身の分身、と恋に落ちた女の子のもうひとつの世界の対応、です。

彼らは彼らが他の自己の心を征服する必要が武器で他を装備するために彼らの最も暗い、最もプライベートな秘密お互いを与えるために取り引きを打つように、多くのことが起こります。彼らはそれぞれの愛する人を追いかけながら、彼らが代わりにお互いに恋に落ちると愛の性質に疑問を始めると、ドラマが続きます。
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>>153555011
good post
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>>153571263
>they don't yet even understand the concept of language
children learn language in the same way that birds learn to fly
it's instinctual, something their brain is BUILT to learn. they don't have to study for it
eventually the bits in charge of language acquisition turn off or at least slow down, and so adults have to spend way more effort to learn a new language than 5 year olds do
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>>153553138
Pic related is what you'll learn.
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>>153582802
ah okay
i guess niplanguage is S-O-V which threw me off
i thought it was some kind of grammatical marker or something
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>>153553138
Subs aren't exact translations. I've understood some of the Japanese and seen the subs say something barely similar or even entirely different.
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>>153583742
Chances are you didn't understand as much of the Japanese as you thought you did.
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>>153570876
They use their ear. Even though I don't know korean I can difference it from chinese.
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>>153571164
English is really easy to learn by yourself desu
I accidentally learned it from playing vidya as a kid and read/write/listen better than many natives (have retarded-ass accent from lack of speech practice though)
But to be fair, learning languages as a kid is orders of magnitude easier than as an adult
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>>153584650
this
learned english myself at pretty young age perfectly and always was better than my teachers and many natives
but then got fucked in the ass as a teen by french
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>>153585170
>but then got fucked in the ass as a teen by french
As did I by Japanese as an adult
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>>153553138
You KISAMA can learn sugoi nippongo with animes.
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>>153553138
How do they learn engrish?
Watching subbed cartoons?
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>>153553297
they think in japanese

you dont
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>>153567628
I think this is the best way learnig a language
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>>153554429

I learned english that way and it's not my first language. In middle school all the way to college I never had to study for an english test.
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OMOE WA MO SHINDEIRU
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>>153553138
>>153553297
>>153585564
This is the only right answer in the entire thread.
For example, if you want to learn German you have to think like Hitler.
If you want to learn Russian you have to start wearing track suits, drink vodka like tap water, chew bird food, squat and say CYKA BLYAT after every 3 words and so forth.
In other words to successfuly learn Japanese you need to turn into one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqJ5wU4FamA&list=PLYfgmSIfzTJRLxnZ6Zr-kGCHBHOHAGxUn
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>>153553138
I learned more nihongo staying in Japan than ever watching any anime.
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>>153553138
It depends which subs are you using.
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>>153585525
These are all examples of incorrectly trying to back convert into English from the Japanese transcription of the English word.

For example, "Dangar" comes from "er" and "ar" both becoming "ā" in Japanese. When the animator tried to write it in English, they fucked up and picked "ar" instead of "er" at the end.
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>>153573397
You absolutely NEED to learn Kana and Kanji.

Once you learn why Japanese has them, romaji will make you mad.
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>>153553138
It can be a useful aid to complement actual study.
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>>153589809
they have them because instead of inventing an alphabet they just haphazardly assigned chinese runes to native words
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Apparently learning actual individual kanji symbols is pretty useless, and it's best to learn them with the suffixes that give them actual context.
I dunno, I just started trying to learn kanji a couple of days ago. Is that true?
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>>153590071
I personally prefer learning the words that contain the kanji instead of learning the kanji that make up the words, if you get what I'm saying
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>>153553138
Some guy I once met claimed to have learned German by watching anime. He was from Bosnia and his family somehow managed to get to Switzerland and then to Germany in the late nineties. At the same time, anime started to really take off in German TV, so that was what he watched all day. He was around 5 or 6 back then and it really helped him learn the language. That's what he told me at least.
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>>153593110
Yeah, it's similar to how lots of kids in European countries learned a lot of English from just watching subbed TV shows.
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>>153555100
It all makes sense now!
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>>153555011
Lol this scrub only knows watashiwa. You don't know
Boku?
Ore?
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>>153553138
Would "cliche anime dialogue" even be considered Japanese? It's not like you understand the language, you're just able to match the sounds to what you've seen it translated as in subtitles. Obviously you'll pick up phrases here and there but you won't actually learn Japanese without studying kana, grammar, and memorizing kanji.
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>>153593521
Is 1960s comic book dialogue considered English?
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>>153590071
I do a bit of individual kanji as a supplement, considering there's a whole lot more words than types of individual characters

Sooner or later, it's better to get into the Chinese mindset of recognizing kanji, which is the real point of individual study.
Knowing the separates parts of each kanji and their associated meaning is exceeding useful even if the definition of the whole isn't entirely exact.
You could say there's a story behind every character, how the combination of symbols mean what it is today.
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