Anyone excited by the incoming second season?
Only for Utaha blowing the fuck out of Erishit.
In some ways, yes. In many ways, not at all. I'm definitely not looking forward to seeing the terrible quality of threads we'll have.
>scene where Utaha gives up
How desperate are Utahafags?
So I just started watching this yesterday and I can already tell who
Also was I not supposed to watch episode 0 first? Felt out of place.
No? Tomoya and Eriri have an understanding of sorts about not interacting at school since the latter keeps up appearances of not being an otaku. That gradually changes later on after they patched things up.
What are you talking about? Whatever scene you're thinking of never happened. It sounds like you're confusing scenes from the past when they were kids and Eriri didn't "cuck" him for anyone. Eriri left to avoid being bullied.
Fuck off Utahafag, you and your retarded cancerous waifu ruins the whole franchise. All Utahafags should just neck themselves for following such a stupid heroine. That's why you need to insult Eriri, trying to ignore how cancerous your character is. You are not even relevant! While Eriri still remains as the main love interest and is going to win the bowl, retards!
Pretty obvious desu. Episode 9 solidifies her status as shit.
>Implying they couldn't support each other together
>Implying she had to completely sever their friendship and watch as Tomoya endured the bullying alone
>Implying its okay when she doesn't even take responsibility for how traumatized Tomoya got by her betrayal
Seriously, the guy even confessed that he couldn't even talk to people afterwards. That was fucked up.
No, he realized that in the anime too. The anime and LN are teh same thing, the former is just simplified and doesn't' go into details about both Tomoya and Eriri's inner thoughts as much. He has a grudge over it, but no trauma. When he made his kingdom, he had people who he converted, so he wasn't without some friends.
Nah. She won't win for other reasons.
-if she didn't they would bully both of them more
-there was no trauma and she wasn't aware about the grudge he has
Eriri told Tomoya that he could hide being an otaku with her, but Tomoya didn't want that. It's not like Eriri didn't give him a choice. Tomoya continued being an otaku despite knowing he'll get bullied. That's his choice, not something Eriri forced or had a part in.
Oh yeah it is. She had him and she abandoned him. Now he's found a superior girl. Eriri's been losing the day of Tomoya's fateful encounter with Megumi and it's her fault.
He couldn't have had an otaku kingdom if he was unable to talk to people normally for years. It's a blatant contradiction. That's not even getting into the other contradictions the anime has with the LNs.
At least Michiru has a sexy body.
>denying Megumi's massive lead in popularity
Look at the huge difference in reception of their volumes. Japan loves Megumi. She gets the most merch and promotion.
You are confused. He had his kingdom and those he converted, and the result of that made him stand out and thus more attention was drawn to him, ergo he got bullied more. His kingdom crumbled, at least for him because he was hurt and in despair. The only reason he made made it was so he and Eriri could be together, he had no other reason to keep it up. And not being able to talk normally is not the same thing as not being able to talk at all.
In that context it's obvious Tomoya is saying his inability to talk normally was of the social anxiety kind. If the anime wanted you to know he had an otaku kingdom, it would've included it, but it didn't. The line about not being able to talk normally for years wasn't even in the original LN.
You can just wait 3 months to see your delusions crushed again.
It's not irrelevant when every single poll gives you the same results. Eriri is universally the least popular main heroine by far.
Why do you keep posting outdated polls when the point is Utaha is barely popular anymore since Megumi dominates by very far?
That there is counterproductive to your claim.
>pleb haters are animeonlyfags who don't know what they're talking about
There are no more recent polls. And even the yearly LN poll doesn't break the Megumi > Utaha > Eriri order. Wait for the anime to see how popular Utaha is again.
She'll be lucky if she appears in the top 30 this spring.
Except the most recent one is the yearly LN poll and Utaha isn't even on it anymore. Japan hardly cares anymore. Meanwhile, Megumi gets more popular and popular. S2 is going to be a bad season for Utaha, so it's doubtful she will get much boost from animefags.
Utaha and Eriri just appeared once in that poll where not even 5% of total readers vote in. It just tells me that Megumi is the most popular, but it doesn't tell me how popular she is in comparison to other girls from the same series.
>Megumi gets more popular and popular
I have never seen anyone who wasn't previously a Megumifag rooting for her after voume 11. It's more like fans of other girls have dropped the series.
She will go out with a bang and rekting Eriri.
By the time you're at V11 you're probably deadset on which girl is your favorite. The fact that V11 made such a reaction in the fanbase shows that Megumi is by far the most popular and got more popular than where she was after the anime.
She doesn't need to be closer to rekt Eriri. In fact that makes it worse for Eriri.
>will never be closer
>will never mean anything special
>not once did he have romantic feelings
>Utaha is so pathetic, she had to make Tomoya hate her and force a kiss just to get anywhere
Literally delusional Utahafag.
>will never be as likeable as Utaha
>will never have her own original spin-off where she is even more best and is free of shit characters like herself
>will never kiss Tomoya
>will lose him to another girl because she's so worst and retarded
Literally delusional Eririfag.
Whatever helps you sleep at night, chap.
Wrong and wrong.
Utaha > Mayu > Megumi > Michiru > Izumi >>>> trash > Eriri
KM > Saekano >>>> trash > Egoistic Lily
Utaha brings down KM. It would've been better with Mayu as main heroine and Utaha as the side.
I like Eriri but what she did was pretty bad. She could never talk about the things she liked about with her normalfaggot friends. Besides her parents know she's an otaku and support her, so I don't know why she felt ashamed. She could've become like Tomoya but she chose not to.
I haven't seen one, but you could ask /hr/ and they might do it.
What the fuck are you talking about? Eririfags have always been the first ones to shit on the series, the author and the winner girl because their shitty tsundere lost for being retarded. They have never liked anything besides Eriri.
Are you going to keep on sperging or is there a thoughtful argument somewhere in your head? Tomoya realized it first that he was always the selfish one who dragged Eriri around. It was like how he first dragged Megumi around. Eriri followed around in joy and they had fun. Tomoya shouldn't have the right to dictate and think that Eriri will follow him without question. She has her own feelings and thoughts too.
Even so, she was a kid then and she was always weak at heart when it came to things like that. Besides, having two nature and faces makes her more interesting that way. It works in favor towards her archetype and development, where as progression kicks in, she eventually grows out of that and becomes comfortable with speaking and spending time with Tomoya in public.
Yes. More Utaha is always good for the heart and dick.
Megumi only has a moderate body. Her breasts are normal. The best part of her body is her legs.
Eririfags don't even acknowledge Tomoya and Megumi are the best couple, push their faggot delusions, and have even doubted her feelings for the protag (and Yukino's). Not to mention making every thread about themselves.
They need to be fucked harder than Nekofags.
Stating KM's supremacy isn't hating on Saekano. Some of the best scenes in the franchise come from main series.
>Eriri cuter than anything
Good one. Utaha, Iroha and Neko are best girls.
Megumi will only be best couple in the LN towards the end because it's her route and she will be the one suited for the MC. That's how it is for most stories. But there are stories where the main girl isn't always the best pairing of course.
I'll take a slut like CC over a traitorous bitch like Kallen or Eriri any day. Megumi needs better friends. There was a chance for that but alas, we have to go back to old hats like Eriri and Utaha.
Explain yourself instead of trying to be memey and witty.
Ok, I get that. What I was trying to ask about is why does everything have to be Eriri centric, as if Tomoya wasn't worth shit.
No. It had the potential but Maruto took out the only girl that could rival Megumi (Utaha) and focused on the shittiest one (Eriri) to make a boring repeat of WA2.
Nice lack of argument.
Today is not the opposite day.
Delusional. The Eriri hate was board-wide while only a couple of anons contained in these threads complained about Utaha.
She's still infinitely more interesting than Eriri. The author only had to make some adjustments to his story to make it work.
>since Volume 10
7, or maybe 5 is more accurate.
You mean 3, or maybe 7.
Eriri has flaws, but she gets better and more interesting along the way. That's a mark of a good character. Utaha barely developed and remains the same and gets less relevant as the story goes on. That's a mark of a poor character.
She's too good for a faggot like Tomoya. He's the one bringing her down.
If he was more like Araragi, we'd have top tier interactions.
Eririfags snapping at everything because they always want a fight. When it's not Megumifags, it's Utahafags.
Megumi fans deserve a respite before Megumi's victory is sealed. It's gonna be extremely painful for the Eririfags. How do you think she'll lose?
Maruto stopped caring about Utaha post volume 7. Her counterpart in KM is better than anything Eriri can hope to be.
Nice non-argument again.
Why do you think Eririfags are so hated here? No one likes them or their bitch. Everyone will rejoice when she gets BTFO harder than Sana and Kuroneko combined.
>is a stupid traitorous bitch again in volume 7
Ah, so you're telling me Utaha's basically too OP so she had to be nerfed by the author to not just overrun the Tomoyabowl for the sake of balance?
It makes sense now. Thanks, wise fellow.
That's half the reason why I love Eriri most and why I think she's best. Perfect or nigh-flawless characters are too boring and hard to relate to. Lacking development and character struggle is less satisfying to become emotionally attached too.
I like Utaha, but she honestly is too generic to be very interesting. Not that Eriri isn't generic, but to call her infinitely less interesting than Utaha is an overstatement. Besides, Eriri did become a way better character in later volumes while Utaha never really improved.
Megumifags weren't saints either. They pick fights more than Eririfags in the past and Eririfags chew back. But that's in the past and nowadays Megumifags and Eririfags barely fight as much anymore since the development in the past several volumes and GS2 did good between Megumi and Eriri as characters.
But Utahafags shitposting, which was uncommon in the past, is now frequently and the major party starting fights.
Eriri dragged her along in her plan. Utaha comes off better because she told hi she wasn't going to take part of the circle anymore from the get-go and she's the one who breaks the news to Tomoya while Eriri remains as a stupid coward. Which is why Megumi only takes it against Eriri.
Episode 9 was the only time that caused a shitstorm of hate, and a lot of that were trolls being trolls and animefags misinterpreting things. The novel 7 spoilers caused a couple weeks worth of lengthy arguments at most and that ended quickly since misunderstanding and misinformation were cleared up. Utaha was a part of the betrayal too so she was included in those arguments, mind you.
Utaha never said that. She said she was still deciding on which college she'd go to and that she was still thinking. Utaha was the one who introduced Akane to Eriri in the first place.
Megumi doesn't really care about Utaha. They were never very close.
>They pick fights more than Eririfags in the past
Don't rewrite history. Eririfags proved then and prove now to be the most belligerent. Regardless of who you feel offended by, you'll whip up a storm over it.
Either way, it was up to Eriri to break out of the circle, not her.
No, Utaha only went along because it was a unique chance of getting over Tomoya. And she's still the one who told Tomoya about it. Eriri pussyfooted around the issue, couldn't even face him in person and left him to die for weeks. She'll be more hated.
Are you retarded? Utaha waited just like Eriri did. Tomoya didn't know about it at all. Eriri agreed with Utaha, it's that Utaha was lead by her. And Eriri told Tomoya in her own way that was understandable. Megumi is not close friends with Utaha so she didn't care much about Utaha leaving. It's different with Eriri because they are friends. Megumi was upset that she left, but that wasn't why she took it to heart. Being unable to understand Eriri was the real reason, that is she was sad and confused more than anything.
Wrong, secondaryfag. Utaha likes Tomoya, but she resigned to her place. Her heart wasn't going to change and it didn't when her plan backfired. Traumatizing him was merely a byproduct that presented itself in the plan to leave the Circle.
Eriri couldn't stand to see him sad so she didn't go with Utaha, but she did tell him via mail. Both Eriri and Utaha didn't go see him. How could they after what just left? Megumi didn't see him either since she left and didn't come back in over two months after she quit the Circle.
So why was she surprised when she realized Eriri hadn't told him on the day of her graduation? Because you're full of shit.
Utaha also knows Eriri is way closer to Tomoya and it would be something natural to tell him. And she didn't. Which is why she calls Eriri mean at that instant.
>this autistic Eririshitter who likes to quote every single post that triggers him is at it again
She said it was mean because Eriri wasn't there with her, but Utaha understood why Eriri wasn't there. Utaha is protective of Eriri so she accepted that. But that has nothing to do with your original point.
My original point was that Utaha doesn't look as bad as Eriri during all of this for these little details.
>"...Have you told Sawamura-san about this?"
>"Her name is on the staff list right? What did she say about the project?"
>"Well...I was planning to tell her after this."
>"Ah, are you worried about Eriri's slump? It's like what I wrote in the proposal, I've thought about a few different backups..."
>"I see...so I have to do it."
>"I have no choice but to say it...that's just mean, Sawamura-san."
>"Sorry, Tomoya-kun...but I can't come with you."
>not better than Utaha
>not better than Megumi
>not better than even Izumi
>will only have a grand total of one non-shit scene for Eririfags to sperg over
That doesn't say anything about expecting Eriri to say it before, idiot. She only thought Eriri was going to do it on her own like Utaha was planning to. Except she figured why Eriri wasn't planning to, so she did it for Eriri too.
No one ships them. Deep down everyone knows she's fembro material at best.
Utaha is the one you fuck and marry.
>She only thought Eriri was going to do it on her own like Utaha was planning to
This and her reaction is exactly expecting Eriri to do it before.
t. Eriri apologist
Delusional. She's better than all of them, especially Utaha and Izumi. Eriri has vol.6, vol.7, and GS if the staff is smart.
Eriri doesn't have good scenes. Tolerable at most.
>thinks his despised tsundere is better than better girls
>implying Utaha and Megumi don't have more quantity and quality
Nice shitpost, Eriritard.
You retard. You were acting like not keeping Tomoya ignorant of their situation wasn't part of the plan to hild off and tell him later on the day they agreed. Utaha's plan involved traumatizing Tomoya. Utaha thought that Eriri would do it first, but figured she was too afraid. So Utaha decided to break the news to include Eriri.
Tomoya betrayed Megumi first when he left to go to Eriri without telling her and risked that everyone's effort would be for nothing, so she had every right to not give a damn about him anymore and leave without saying anything (just like he did to her) unlike Eriri&Utaha. So in no way she is shit. If someone is shit, then it's Tomoya. He should be more than glad she came back.
>Utahafags are the new worst posters
Eriri does have good scenes. Showing off her new dress to Tomoya, Christmas, when she comes over to his house in the beginning of V7 and plays games with him, etc.
Your posts are all shitposts. Never an argument.
Wrong. You Eririfags continue being the worst posters.
Maybe good for Eriri standards but Utaha and Megumi blow her out of the water.
I already explained my point. If you're illiterate then work on it.
>she wasn't going to take part of the circle anymore from the get-go
>from the get-go
>Eriri dragged her along in her plan
>along in her plan
No you didn't. Backpedaling doesn't count either, retard. You were wrong. Accept it.
>from the get-go as in when Tomoya starts to bug her about a new project
>Eriri's plan as in Eriri's decision that Utaha rolled along with
She loses like a champ, unlike the utter humiliation Eriri will suffer.
>calling it sexual assault
Are you from tumblr or something?
That's not what from the get-go means, you retard. Iori knew about Eriri and Utaha joining Akane's company for some time. They held off telling Tomoya, ergo they didn't tell him from the very beginning.
They agreed to tell him on the day Utaha met with Tomoya. Utaha was going to carry out her plan by dropping the quitting the Circle bomb. Utaha is only surprised that Eriri hasn't told him yet. Plain and simple. Utaha was already going to tell Tomoya and included Eriri since she thought Eriri wasn't going to do it, or at least it would make it easier for Eriri to tell him later, which Eriri did do.
>Iori knew about Eriri and Utaha joining Akane's company for some time. They held off telling Tomoya, ergo they didn't tell him from the very beginning.
Wow, your reading is as shit as the girl you like. Utaha never compromised to the new project and told Tomoya to not count with her.
>They agreed to tell him on the day Utaha met with Tomoya
Nope. They never agreed on a date to tell him. Your whole argument falls apart.
>retarded Eririshitter being delusional and ironic
>Eriri tells Utaha that she and Megumi have ended their friendship, though Eriri isn't entirely sure about it herself. Utaha says it can't be helped since it's Megumi they are talking about. Eriri remarks that she did not expect Megumi to be so angry and cry. Utaha says Eriri's at fault no matter how one slices it.
>Utaha says Eriri's at fault no matter how one slices it.
Eririfags will defend this.
Are you seriously that retarded? Utaha didn't agree to join on the day she sat down to hear Tomoya's new idea for a second game. And way to deflect since that doesn't refute what I said. Utaha had already left the Circle before she met up with Tomoya. She didn't tell him before or when she had thoughts about leaving, so she wasn't upfront at all in the beginning.
>They never agreed on a date to tell him
They obviously did and were waiting for a reason. The perfect time was when Tomoya was at his highest, which is whatever the day was Tomoya wanted to discuss the new game.
Utaha can't help but support Eriri no matter how stupid and worst she is. She is truly the best girl.
Are you seriously that illiterate? Unlike Eriri, Utaha made it clear to Tomoya she most likely wasn't going to take part of his new project, even before she took Eriri to Akane and decided to leave, and that's what I mean by get-go. She only followed Eriri's decision because it was convenient for her.
>They obviously did and were waiting for a reason
No, they didn't. Nothing in the text indicates that.
There is literally only one reply to the post I replied to.
You made statements and claims that were corrected. Those replies addressed them.
Don't both stalling and straw manning anymore, I'm done with you, Utahafag.
“Hm? What is it, Eriri?”
That’s why three minutes had already passed after the hot pot started boiling and yet neither had taken a bite.
“If I’ve done something wrong, I’ll fix it! If I fail, I’ll just try again!”
“So, say it already…what did I do wrong?”
“You aren’t really at fault for anything here. I truly am tired.”
“Did I hurt you again? Did I make you sad?”
Megumi didn’t meet Eriri’s gaze. As if nothing had happened, she waited for things to blow over, but Eriri wasn’t going to let that happen.
“Was it dragging you around in the rain? Focusing all my attention on drawing?”
“None of that was wrong, you’re fine.”
“If that’s the case, then it’s something I have to figure out from the mood, but unfortunately I’m not good at that sort of thing.”
That was a fault Eriri had carried since eight, maybe nine years ago.
“That’s not it, that’s not it…you did the right thing.”
It was why Eriri couldn’t make true friends for so long and focuses solely on drawing.
“You tried to cover for my failure and give some meaning to this trip.”
“Then why are you so depressed?”
“…you’re not the reason for that. It’s just self-loathing.”
“And that’s because…?”
“Earlier, when you were drawing, I thought ‘I hate seeing Eriri go away’.”
And because she focused solely on drawing, she could only solve things by drawing. She used her skill to overpower them.
“Even though I promised Tomoya-kun I’d make up with you…it’s so frustrating.”
The hot pot’s steam vanished and the room turned cold.
“I hate how I’m such a terrible person.”
Her sad, quiet voice rang through the room. A feeling of powerlessness drifted around. However, Eriri still chose to move forward and try to solve this through her own strength.
“What do I need to do for us to make up?”
After all, that was all Eriri could do.
“You don’t need to do anything. You didn’t do anything wrong in the first place.”
Prove it. But that's even bullshit damage control. Eriri said it way back that she would leave if something came along that she was more interested or was a better opportunity. That hardly means much after what they went through. Tomoya was hurt and depressed as hell that they both left, so he was fully expecting that Eriri and Utaha were join to work on the second game.
You are still backpedaling since Utaha wasn't upfront at the start at all since she held off telling Tomoya. That is a simple fact.
>Nothing in the text indicates that.
Quote it then. Other than that, simple logic and inference from how Utaha reacted to Eriri and when she decided to drop the bomb implies so.
That word doesn't mean what you think it means.
>Wishing to know what will happen to their circle from now on, he asks her what plans she has once the university starts. With a gloomy face, Utaha inclines her head to Tomoya and says she will probably join a tennis club that goes on group dating instead of playing tennis, and lead an uneventful life of passing out from spiked drinks and being taken to you know where against her will. Just the usual Utaha. Answering more seriously, she says she will continue with her book and devote herself to her writing career if possible. Tomoya asks her about their circle and if she could remain as an official member. She tells him that some big game company has made an offer to her. He says she can just write one route or extra scenarios and asks her if she'd participate in their next game.
Eriri comes off even worse since she had just reconciled with Tomoya and things were supposed to be a lot better between them. Utaha just waited to meet Tomoya to tell him, it's not like she should chase after him. Eriri meet him on multiple occasions and never told him a word.
>Quote it then
Burden of proof is on you. They never agreed on a date to tell him. Utaha's reaction logically shows that there was no such agreement.
We all can read the summary, retard. Why are you leaving out the part where Utaha led Tomoya on? Tomoya assumed she would do it and for good reasons. There's a reason why Utaha said what she did was consdered her biggest betrayal since it wasn't her that the "big game company" was interested in, instead it was Eriri. Utaha acted like she was going to do it, in fact, Tomoya tasked her with the main route and Utaha didn't say no.
More of your biased conjectures.
>Burden of proof is on you.
I gave a logical argument. You haven't given one. Why else wait that long and on that day to tell him? You think Eriri randomly picked the time right after Utaha went ahead with her plan to tell him via mail? It's not a coincidence.
She's literally going full retard in that scene for the sake of Erishit.
It's not about not saying no, it's about not saying yes. Tomoya is a retard like you for assuming she would stick around for his shit when she wasn't sure herself leaning more towards a negative response.
>Why else wait that long and on that day to tell him?
If there really was such agreement, it would have made zero difference to Utaha whether Eriri had told him or not. If she didn't, Utaha would have not worries since she'd know Eriri would tell him later. But she obviously had to break the news because Eriri was keeping him deliberately ignorant while Utaha had just met him for the first time since Akane.
It's true. She's acting like Eriri is something precious to her and is worth more than most other things when their relationship is no deeper than Michiru and Utaha's or Tomoya and Izumi's. It's so cringeworthy.
Wow, so now it's Tomoya's fault? You are so grasping at straws. Misleading is in fact deception so Utaha essentially was saying yes. And so there isn't any any doubts or misunderstandings. You can't defend this, you tryhard.
Learn to read.
>Utaha was already going to tell Tomoya and included Eriri since she thought Eriri wasn't going to do it, or at least it would make it easier for Eriri to tell him later, which Eriri did do.
They're exaggerated. Megumi is actually close to flat.
Tomoya had the biggest guilt when it came to Utaha. That's also another reason Utaha isn't as hated. She just made it more dramatic when she broke the news to him but she wasn't planning to stay in the circle.
>implying you can find scenes where they develop deep bonds in the LN
You never had a best friend before when you were a teen, didn't you? Even Utaha saw that they were real friends and warned Megumi of what could happened. It's always hinted and implied that they spent time together as actual friends hanging out starting from after they bonded during the all-nigher.
>biggest guilt when it came to Utaha
Is this going to be another claim where you'll give an out of context quote when asked? Or maybe something you pulled from thin air?
>just made it more dramatic when she broke the news to him
Intentionally to hurt him so he'll remember her by through feelings of hatred. That's taking advantage of him and the situation at hand. That is far worse than Eriri being too scared to see Tomoya hurt and sad. Eriri has better reasons to leave since it was not only for her sake, but for Tomoya's sake too. She made a difficult choice that pains her. By all reason she's more sympathetic.
>but she wasn't planning to stay in the circle.
That was always the plain, redundant genius. She deceived and betrayed him.
Fine, the scene where they discuss each other's feelings for Tomoya shows they're intimate. I only used "imply" because I wasn't sure on what they said but now that I've reread that portion it's clear they're intimate.
There's a reason Tomoya only resents Eriri and not Utaha after their betrayal. He knew he was more to blame for Utaha leaving. And no matter how you sugarcoat it, Eriri is still more hated. That has always been the case since the spoilers were discussed.
The anime did both though. The only thing it didn't do was go into detail. You can say it's an asspull. They are consistently friendly and become more intimate with each other. It should be especially noticeable since Eriri doesn't act that way to anyone and is playful and tolerate with Megumi than she is with anyone, not even Tomoya gets that kind of treatment outside of deredere.
So this is how you are going to play. Distort more context to defend and sugarcoat what Utaha did while moving the goalpost.
The only reason Tomoya is affected more by Eriri is because they are close and more than just simple friends. Even though he agreed with what Eriri said and why she left, giving her his blessing, she still betrayed him. It's only natural he would be bothered more. But that's for personal reasons and something between childhood friends with a long history to reconcile over.
After all this, you still haven't admitted to your own fault when when you were factually wrong.
>"...Megumi, what do you think of Tomoya?
>"Ah, it's come to this..."
>"Uh, okay, you don't have to say it. I can't give clear advice or any surprising responses."
>"...right not, I think of him as an important friend. Yeah, for now I think him being a friend is fine.
>"Huh, that's fine with you?"
>"Uh huh. After all...you're a close friend to me."
Even Izumi, Michiru and Iori agree that Eriri is a shit. Utaha comes scot-free for the aforementioned reasons that trump your defense of Eriri. If you can simply quote a line from the LN that factually contradicts me, I'll concede, but you have only posted your assumptions.
I want them to play the OP during this scene.
Iori said no such thing and Michiru only said he shouldn't be involved with her, which obviously has to do with Tomoya's attachment and the possibility of getting hurt. Only Izumi dislikes Eriri since she thinks Eriri hurt him. But if you believe that then give citation since I'm sure we'll like to see it.
Tomoya and Megumi were hurt by Utaha leaving the Circle. Why does it matter what Izumi, who has it out for Eriri, thinks? You are grasping at straws.
Oh right. I wonder if they will play an insert song for each girl again.
That was never your point. Moving the goalpost and backpedaling don't count remember?
Based on what? Eriri has Tomoya, Megumi, Akane, and even Utaha herself. Who does Utaha have?
Irrelevant to quality. Better characters and/or best girl seldom get the popularity they deserve.
Oh yeah, nice lack of citation when burden of proof is on your side there.
>it's moving the goalpost and backpedalling because they're facts that hurt me
No one dislikes Utaha. Eriri has gained a lot of hostility towards her for good reasons.
Good thing the popularity in this series is logical and makes sense, though Utaha should be more popular than she is.
No, that would be changing the topic and detracting in an attempt to misdirect away from admitting or addressing the main point. That what you did. Playing dumb when even someone with half a brain can see it hurts you and not me.
>No one dislikes Utaha
In-verse? Akane sure as hell act like she dislikes her for being a trash writer. In real life? She has plenty of haters.
And still you continue to deflect and avoid coughing up burden of proof.
You just want to delude yourself into thinking Eriri shouldn't be hated for what she did and Utaha is worse off when in reality Eriri is still the most hated. I've given up on that. Akane doesn't even care about Utaha. Unlike Izumi who actively throws venomous darts at Eriri.
>“Sawamura-senpai is the worst… Abandoning Tomoya-senpai like that… She deserves a death penalty.”
>“A proper punishment is necessary… And so this time, I, Izumi Hashima, shall destroy Eriri Spencer Sawamura… Eri Kashiwagi.”
>Iori comes up with an idea to get the circle back on track, which is to get rid of Eriri.
>Tomoya asks Michiru for advice. She replies saying that he shouldn’t be involved with Eriri anymore.
>Izumi realizes she’s had it wrong all along and resolves to draw the perfect tearjerker ending where the blonde heroine gets killed off.
Eririfags truly got rekt'd. No character is more pathetic than Eriri.
>Iori comes up with an idea to get the circle back on track, which is to get rid of Eriri.
>Tomoya asks Michiru for advice. She replies saying that he shouldn’t be involved with Eriri anymore.
Context, you shitposter. Tomoya can't stay on track and is hung up over old members, Eriri in particular for obvious reasons since he likes her.
Izumi is shit, so who cares about her.
Eriri is NG for Tomoya no matter how you slice it. She should be removed from his life and the story and its characters support this.
And fuck you, Izumi is fifth best girl. Far better than Eriri.
>he still takes it literally
Izumi calls her the worst which is pretty close.
You're being seriously pathetic. Look at how far you've come from defending Utaha to now using Izumi to now only defend but also take a jab at Eriri so you can look like you are right on the sole factor Izumi doesn't like Eriri. Big deal. If you actually took Izumi's words at face value instead of reading between the line and seeing why she has a personal problem with Eriri, then you have to apply the same argument to Megumi and Utaha who abandoned Tomoya in the past, Utaha for the same amount since she left at the same time Eriri left. And in that, you just screwed yourself over.
>Akane doesn't even care about Utaha.
Nope. If she didn't cafe then Utaha wouldn't be there. She does care and that's why she's being so harsh and negative towards her. She's being blunt about it and does dislike the writer she has become due to an obvious slump.
Your frustration is noted, Eriritard. Izumi's words can't be applied as argument to other characters.
>harsh and negative towards her
So same attitude towards Eriri. She even calls Eriri a piece of shit.
People who read summaries and are up to date with spoilers would know that Iori and Michiru don't dislike her, but was thinking what was in the Circle's best interest due to Tomoya's fixation with Eriri.
Your desperation, butthurt, and continuous lack of relevant arguments are noted, retarded Utahafag.
>Izumi's words can't be applied as argument to other characters.
Too bad that's not how logic works. They should be hated for the same reasons as Izumi hates Eriri. Tit for tat.
That was in the past. Eriri improved and became a lot better. Akane is less harsh and cares about Eriri more than she does Utaha.
Where are you getting that from? GS2 doesn't say that. In fact, Akane thinks Utaha can go higher given the right push.
Your projections are also noted, Eriritard.
You don't even know Izumi at all. Eriri was a bitch to her first, way before the betrayal happened. Your argument is destroyed again.
>Akane is less harsh and cares about Eriri more than she does Utaha.
This is just your Eririfag delusion. She's only using her.
Utahafags never had any problems with Megumi winning the Tomoyabowl, though.
Your irony is noted, retarded Utahafag.
Prove it. Quote the scene and show us Izumi being yandere because of and not because of abandoning Tomoya like Izumi said in the very quote you gave.
>She's only using her.
Back up that delusion. I'll wait.
Akane being mega bitch doesn't mean she doesn't care. Akane is always the professional and objective type. If she sees potential then she'll push and to bring it out. Eriri was the person she was most interest in rather than UTaha. But after volume 11, Utaha is going to prove Akane wrong and Akane will accept it if Utaha can do it and she most likely will after the resolve she gained at the end of the volume.
Your irony is noted, retarded Eriritard (redundant, I know).
Izumi didn't get much screentime before she joined the circle, but her deserved dislike of Eriri wasn't born out of the betrayal. It started as early as volume 3. The betrayal only made it bigger and she coincidentally got closer to Tomoya due to it so we can see her dislike of Eriri at full force.
Akane would disregard Eriri like trash were she to find a more talented illustrator. She already did it in the past and Eriri isn't safe from that.
>Utaha self-destructing in the LN
She went out of the race with class.
>dropping to worst girl
Literally never happened.
She has her own spin-off that's much better than the main story to make up for that.
>Utaha getting overtaken by Mayu in KM.
Again something that never happened.
Utahafags are just fucking cancerous. Western or Japanese, they're shit. They have the worst opinions, don't care about the series itself, and are exceedingly superficial with how all they care about is pantyhose. Utahafags are also almost universally low power level faggots.
They can't stand being in the minority like they're used in other series so they sperg out like no one. They'll get their comeuppance soon. Many tears will be licked.
No seriously, Utahafags are cancer. I've checked 2ch, other Japanese sites, and western anime sites other than /a/. They're invariably cancer. Shit opinions, shit posting style, shit everything. Eririfags I can respect, but not Utahafags. Other anime websites call Megumi "Katou" and, not a coincidence, have a huge population of Utahafags.
Your irony and stalling is noted, retarded and delusional Utahafag.
So can't provide quotes to back it up and are just making assumptions. How expected.
Izumi having a petty rivalry and bad blood that is only sparked by a misguided delusion of yandere personality is exactly why Izumi's hate is not taken seriously. You can't take what Izumi said at face value, otherwise Utaha and Megumi would have deserved hate by her too for the same reason. QED.
Akane is pragmatic to an extreme fault. Still doesn't mean she doesn't care to push people in order to better them if she sees potential. If you are good then you are good in her eyes. It's as simple as that.
Your ironic irony is getting old, retarded Eriritard.
It's even shown in the anime.
>Izumi's hate is not taken seriously. You can't take what Izumi said at face value
She is exaggerated, but she seriously dislikes Eriri. She has no reason to dislike Megumi and Utaha.
Your irony of all irony is noted, retarded Utahafag.
>in the anime
Yes, and? Quotes would be better, wouldn't you agree? Now elaborate or concede.
>She is exaggerated, but she seriously dislikes Eriri. She has no reason to dislike Megumi and Utaha.
So even though Utaha and Megumi betrayed/abandoned Tomoya too, she doesn't dislike them because she has no sense of rivalry with them. You agree with me then. Wow, that's a start.
OP singer is an Eririfag.
You keep showing off your anger issues, Eriritard.
Watch the anime, I'm not doing your work.
Izumi hates Eriri because she's a shit person through and through, not because of one isolated act.
>Izumi hates Eriri because she's a shit person through and through, not because of one isolated act.
Not true. She was friendly with her in V5 and V6. It's only in V8+ that she really turns up the hate.
Your irony and frustration is showing, retarded Utahafag.
Burden of proof is on your side. Cough it up or concede you are full of shit.
Don't worry, I already know you are full of shit since the scene in question doesn't show her being a bitch to Izumi at all..
Lovely, more claims you aren't going to back up. They already sound bogus.
I'm not frustrated at all. Eriri being shit is as obvious as the water being wet. It's only natural other characters don't want anything to do with her, don't want Tomoya to have anything to do with her either, and only those infected by bad writing syndrome side with her. The text doesn't lie.
Interesting tale fueled by paranoia and delusion where you think people side with you in your battle against an imaginary person who is out to get you and your raging boner for tsundere. In Saekano threads that are 90% Megumifags and Utahafags (not tsunderefags) of all places.
Your poorly suppressed rage and deflection is noted, retarded Utahafag.
Going back to "they" despite the fact you were debunked. Sad desperation when you have nothing else to fall back on to argue.
It's satisfaction at the fact Eriri is seen as scum inside the series as well. No one can refute that the characters want to remove Eriri from Tomoya's life because she's so poisonous.
THK pls. You exposed yourself weeks ago and we aren't going to forget it. That writing style and anti-tsun crusade autism is most recognizable. Using the same buzzwords and pics while you sperg doesn't help you.
Your desperate and mad is showing, retarded Utahafag.
First it was " a shit", now it's moving the goalpost to "poisonous". And still neither are wrong in context to the point you claimed and are implying to since Iori and Michiru don't hate or think badly of Eriri in that way.
Only Izumi has beef with Eriri and it's entirely childish and exaggerated due to personal rivalry.
Eriri is still a shit in Izumi's eyes. She's poisonous to everyone around her. All the drama comes from her. She always ruins everything. It's only normal other characters start realizing how it's better not to get involved with her at all. Eriri Internet Defense Force pls go.
EIDF just go.
Good conflict, not terrible and poorly developed drama.
It hurts because it is a cold and heavy truth that hits you right in the heart, Eriritard.
This thread just proves that Eririfags are unrivaled when it comes to autism and samefagging.
A certain novelfag and summary provider is an Utahafag. There is one autistic Eririfag and the rest are less than casuals.
Whatever helps you sleep at night. Eriri is still the most hated in-verse and out-verse.
Fuck you, I'm the guy who provided the summaries since Volume 8 and I'm a Megumifag. That Utahafag dropped Saekano long ago, he doesn't even post the images on his blog for me to steal anymore. I have to do my own google searches to find acceptable images.
>full of gentlemen appreciating and discussing Maruto's magnus opus, respecting other's opinions and taste in girls and keeping it civil
>cesspool of people slinging shit at one another, lashing out at girls not of their preference, the story that's just a haremshit, and mostly sticking around for fetish pandering
Really makes you think.
Because THK can't stop talking about Eriri. Not even kidding. For someone who hates her so much, he's obsessed with her and would rather talk about Eriri than to talk about his own girl.
It really doesn't. Saekano is almost universally considered Maruto's worst work for a reason.
No need. Reality is already by my side.
Prove it then. Even so, no novelfag would be an Eririfag.
Here's the proof.
You still can't refute the fact Eriri has always been the most hated. And for quite a long time no one blamed THK for it. And now you're back at full force resorting to boogeyman blaming but it's too late. Like two years late. You prefer to keep your THK obsession alive to try and fool people, but you won't fool anyone that's not retarded.
WA2 threads don't have to deal with Eririfags.