What do people like about this show?
The question really is, what DID people like about it?
They liked the characters, shenanigans and fanservice. Now anime has excelled at those things, so by today's standards it could be considered weak.
It's really the same with every form of entertainment. The old stuff gets outpaced by the new stuff it inspired, but people still like the old stuff because it did it earlier when it was less common.
>They liked the characters, shenanigans and fanservice
Couldn't care less about the fanservice (which is barely there anyway). The good writing, characters and staging is timeless.
>hasn't held up well
two wrong statements in one post, jesus christ anon.
Literally the only reason why the Disappearance is a masterpiece is because of the series.
The series isn't that different from Disappearance except it doesn't spell out stuff with 7 minutes monologues for the viewer. Disappearance is still better but the series did it first.
Why do so many people like to act like the movie is so much better than the series, it isn't that much different you know? I mean, it's a nice film, but I really don't understand how someone who hate the series would like It.
Probably because the film is a culmination of everything that makes the series great.
Amazing production values, Eric Satie, and Yuki with free will.
Haruhi was literally the main conviction of Kyon's dilemma in the film though.
Not to mention we got long haired Haruhi AND ponytail Haruhi in one film.
What the fuck more do you want?
Both of these. The movie elevates it far and above anything it could have been without it. However, without the series the movie wouldn't be nearly as impactful as it is.
I know, It's just that we barely see her in the film. I know she disappearing is literally the point, but I can't agree that the firm enhances everything that makes the series great when Haruhi herself has so little screen time.
>Not to mention we got long haired Haruhi AND ponytail Haruhi in one film.
The best part of the moviealong with Kyon realization at the end
>but I can't agree that the firm enhances everything that makes the series great when Haruhi herself has so little screen time.
But that's the point. It's not only Kyon who realizes we can't live without Haruhi,
it's us as well. Bravo KyoAni
I liked Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody I think that epsiode is about as good as the movie. I liked the direction in it. In fact I liked the direction in a lot of the season 2 episodes, E8 gets a lot of hate but the episodes are really well done, and the movie arc is kinda subpar but that's only because the source material is as well.
>Good character chemistry
>Good production values
>Iconic scenes like the concert at the school festival and the whole Endless Eight
>mix of Sol and Sci-Fi that actually works well, with even some action sprinkled in it
And it also helps that for a lot people it was their first anime of that kind.
>not having Haruhi is essential to put in perspective what Haruhi is to both Kyon and the series
I agree with that. And also with the other thing you said, it's just that we can't have both things I guess. I wish she had more screen time in the film, but I also think that she being absent is what makes it great.
>it's us as well.
Can she appear now though? I'm tired of waiting for this illusion to and end and want to see her again already
If you haven't done you should read the books anon. They're all officially released now as well
some of them aren't pictured. Snowy mountain syndrome is a great read but to be honest they're all as good as the show is.
I suppose I should check it out for the sake of completionism.
The real gem is my signed first book. I know having the LN signed by the dub VA is a bit of a mishmash but
I'm a huge dubfag andI think it's the coolest thing.
Nice collection, mousepad and wallpaper, anon. It's good to see you're so dedicated to your Goddess.
I'm with you 100%
This. It's seeing them all together and with such an interesting if vague story going on in the background, that something is odd, it revolves around one of them, that person can't know... it's the perfect masquerade and yet they're all still themselves with each other to the point where just
and then Yuki on top of all that
image because captcha was apartment buildings, please ignore filename
It doesn't matter how much time has passed, Haruhi is my #1
I'll do it for her
And you too anon
maybe that's the trigger for S3
I think the dub VAs are actually a pretty big part of this show's success here too - it's one of the best dubs in history, especially because of Crispin Freeman's ad-libs.
Haruhi is really cute and her smile warms my heart. Also her hair is fluffy.
I like the characters and I like the transition from comedy/slice of life to serious mystery in the later parts (Disappearance, Intrigues, Dissociation, Surprise)
I think bamboo leaf rhapsody and the movie have given me a love for time travelling stuff.
the total clusterfuck of events and time travel happening all on one eventful day is so satisfying man.
haruhi's 'say, have we met before, like long ago?' line in melancholy 1 gets me rock hard every time
just curious, when and for how much did you get the wavering book for?
it was the only one i couldn't get new and I had to hunt for it on ebay to get it even used.
ended up buying the whole entire hard cover series used to get just the wavering, so now i have an extra set in my closet gathering more dust
It does say unavailable now but I know I bought all of those pictured
photo from May-ish 2013very close to release so I must have picked it up while it was still stocked.
Real depressing sight, I suppose these can be considered collectible now.
The picture quality may be deceptive but those were 22in 1080p monitors. It's okay, I've moved onto 3440x1440p master race since then.
The sci-fi elements and Kyon's character.
I have a weak spot for time travel so when it's done right it makes me like the material so much. The Haruhi series does it really well and they use Yuki instead of Mikuru for these sci-fi related things so it's much better.
Because is fucking good
>and I like it.
She couldn't let go of mine, so I asked her to do it at the same time. I'm satisfied although the signature looks weird, partly because Aya wouldn't swallow and I came on the cover.
Funny, I did it the other way around, anime then book. In any case, you're in for a ride, especially for the fourth book which was adapted into one of the greatest anime movies.
I think the overall writing quality greatly improves as time goes on, but the stories definitely peak in the beginning.
The story definitely jumps the shark around novel eight or seven or so. Probably unpopular.
The snowy mountain chapter is fucking phenomenal though, aside from the silly resolution. That had me hooked like nothing else I've ever read, I was actually in fucking tears from just how well it was written.
It was so surreal and terrifying at the same time. Something like that is my absolute nightmare, and it perfectly captured it
>Probably unpopular opinion
I think Dissociation is the best written and has the best story although it's only an introduction so I can't really call it the best for that. Surprise is great too although slow at beginning, it has a great payoff (which would be even greater with Kyoani magic). Both these hold up fairly well to Disappearance in my opinion.
You'd love Snowy Mountain Syndrome if you haven't read it yet, then. Except for the lackluster ending as the previous anon called, of course, it's a closed space story in terms of mood. AFAIK only Umineko does it better and it's because they stay in the closed space for dozens of hours of reading.
college Haruhigiven the KyoAni treatment or Kyon's monologue where he's talking about all of the involved parties (around page 270ish?) being given the Kyon's Choice treatment
Nice collection, posting mine. I kind of regret not getting the novels at release, they're just going up in price.
>mfw their endless summer actually ends on the other hand OUR endless choke never ends
Actually kind of creeped me out when this scene happened. Unexpectedly sinister as fuck.
Not so much in Canada, unfortunately.
Anyone here has the complete version of this time flow diagram?
i like haruhi, my wife and true love
No, I remember the scene you're talking about because it made me chuckle. It shows trees blooming despite it not being the season and cuts to slightly exasperated yet still smiling Koizumi.
>>153522489 is when he tells Kyon he has to do something to keep Haruhi's sense of reality. He also tells him Mikuru might be moebait for him.
>He also tells him Mikuru might be moebait for him.
>mfw there are people that still actually believe this
or ever believed anything Koizumi said for that matter
A while back, I did a whole writeup comparing Haruhi to another anime that I personally liked. With the recent death of archive moe, I'll try to repost the points I put in it.
To me, the anime that Haruhi reminds me the most of, is NieA_7. I'm a huge aBefag, and my favourite anime by the guy is Haibane Renmei, but NieA is a close second (Lain and Texhnolyze are so-so, though I know those two are more popular)
One thing abut NieA_7, was the theme of the surreal become the real, the extraordinary becoming the ordinary. in NieA_7, an alien landing takes place. However, and for some bizarre reason, the alien population did not look too different from humans (save for elf ears and an antennae) and the majority of them integrated well into Earth (mainly, Japan's) society. The idea was nice, but too problematic, and relied too much on suspension of disbelief (made more difficult by how solemn/somber) said anime was.
The other was the larger than life genki girl who was the titular character - both NieA and Haruhi were the central focuses of the show, but not the narrator/protagonist - that was played by a more down to earth character (in NieA's case, Mayuko, in Haruhi's case, Kyon) Both characters cause havoc in their respective partners life but, when both of them disappear at some point (spoiler, I guess), both Mayuko and Kyon come to realize the value of having someone larger then life around.
A third theme, is the meaning of Life. Haruhi herself pondered the point of her existence, and the futility of it, in contrast the overwhelming nature of Infinity. In contrast, Mayuko was a cram student who didn't know what she wanted to do in life, and had become a social recluse.
cont. from >>153525068
All this being said,, I find that Haruhi did it better than NieA, and it became one of my personal favourites animes (about equal to Haibane Renmei in favour) because, Haruhi took the juxtaposition of the extraordinary and the ordinary, and made it something interetsing.
In NieA's case, it was made open, but, it was too problematic. And the thing about many animes where you have 'a secret, hidden world' lurking underneath the real is that, it lacks believeability and depth (shakugan no shana comes to mind). In contrast, Haruhi takes this juxtaposition to another level by having a character who is actively interested in the supernatural but, not only can she not interact with it, if she does do so, it may end up destroying the world. This irony is further enhanced by the fact that actually, Haruhi has almost godly power to create anything but, and because she is not aware of this, she remains unaware of the existence of the supernatural despite its efforts.
Thus, Haruhi becomes a twin dichotomy - between Haruhi, who wants to chase after the supernatural, and make her more Life more interesting and meaningful (on top of putting her name on anything by doing various projects), and Kyon and the rest of the brigade, who live in the world Haruhi has created, and have to both tackle the danger she creates, and the dangers that are posed to her. NieA_7 doesn't do this, and to be honest, I cannot think of many stories that do anything quite close to Haruhi, the exception may be the Marvel Universe, with characters like Franklin Richards and The Sentry. Moreso the latter. But in those stories, the 'supernatural' is an accepted phenomena, the same does not apply to Haruhi.
Its why, to be honest, and even though its often identified as one, I never saw Haruhi Suzumiya as a moe/moeblob show. To me, Haruhi felt like the kind of anime someone like aBe Yoshito should have guest arted for. (moreso than Oreimo)
Good to see you too, anon.
Someone already did >>153508332
Anyone got the "This is the fifteen-thousand...th time we've had this discussion and we've been increasingly efficient at it" pic?
For anyone interested, and looking for a more dedicated Haruhi community on 4chan, I'd like to draw your attention to the threads on /c/
Current thread on >>>/c/2843426
Also an info-dump of the series: http://pastebin.com/xZvJLnpR
at least i got a cool sasaki picture from op
Sasaki probably feels like that outsider who's interested in the brigade but can't really get herself to try and interact with them. Like Tsuruya except slightly sad.
That's my interpretation at least. She might feel better now she's gotten time to talk with Kyon and sort this stuff out, though.
You should check pixiv and very occasionally twitter, there're quite a few out there.
I've seen plenty of discussion there, a bit slow tho. I guess it's fiene as long as it doesn't look like a hijack, /c/ is pretty slow compared to /a/ after all.
I've got this weird headcannon of Haruhi crossing over/restarting the universe when someone dies of old age, and they're all DC superheroes.
It's been years and I keep having these weird thoughts.
I don't think I have much of her. Here.
I've been thinking about Kyoani's decision with endless 8 and realized that we could've got snowy mountain syndrome animated, but of course that'd mean no disappearance movie, or maybe a SMS one instead with the underwhelming ending, I guess Kyoani really wanted to do disappearance in the movie format.
This one too is a bunnygirl. I have the original (non orange) Asakura next.
Since generals aren't allowed on /a/, we should move long term discussion to /c/
Btw. Thanks for keeping my infodump. I wrote it as an anon. Someday, I'll do an updated infodump
>over a year since the last image I saved of her
It's not like there's much discussion nowadays, 1 in maybe 6 Haruhi threads are for discussion.
And no problem, makes it easier for me when someone asks for the LN.
This thread isn't a general. But thread son /c/ function like generals.
I'm thinking: for continuous Haruhi discussion they are a good option, should Haruhi threads on /a/ not last.
Too many places to go, does he escalate the series from high school hijinks to shit hitting the fan? War? Time stuff that causes Mikuru or who ever to do things. We've seen them 'make a thing happen the way they recorded it', meaning that history is not static, so they need to make sure 'they keep existing' so that they can keep observing, or something. Answer the question to if kyon is a slider and he's not changing anything, just moving to a timeline where those events happen. More of the internal faction conflicts and external 'gods'. There's so much to work with, the question was when to set things in motion and how serious the series could get whilst answering the mysteries.
It's like 11 books of prologue and school romcom, then bam the actual story starts? Or does it stay the same and fizzle (as it did).
I watch it last year and it was barely anything passable to be consider fan service save for a few generic boob and ass shots. so that's not it.
It's kind of funny that anyone would say the show hasn't aged well. Seriously, what high school anime in the last 11 years was so amazing, advanced, and revolutionary that makes Haruhi look dated? Can't really think of much
>tfw no qt
alternate-brother lusting after you
They just say it hasn't aged well because they think the art looks too similar to the KEYshit KyoAni was doing at the time.
Which doesn't make a lot of sense considering the animation is still 10x better than a lot of the shit currently airing this season.
I think it's the "seinfeld isn't funny" effect where so many things copied a lot of what made Haruhi good to the point where it seems old despite it doing all of these things however long ago.
Is it as good? I'm really excited to watch it.
This is not true. >>153542406 You will be disappointed.
>They just say it hasn't aged well because they think the art looks too similar to the KEYshit KyoAni was doing at the time.
This is true though. While the animation and backgrounds are still high tier, the designs can go from good to almost untolerable from an episode to another when these bug eyes show themselves again
good thing S2 and Disappearance got most of the good designs
S1 was not that bad, it's just dated now.
I liked it. It wasn't anything spectacular but it was a fun watch.
Snarky MC who used to be chuunibyou/believe in supernatural shit
Chuunibyou/believing in supernatural shit because of said snarky mc (dark flame master/bamboo leaf rhapsody)
Bunch of kids fucking around in a clubroom doing whatever
Super drama about the existence of supernatural shit at some point
Minor romantic elements
Yellow hair accessory on main girl
They're pretty similar
>They're pretty similar
Except for the fact the chuunibyou is fucking awful and boring shit with lame ass characters, the supernatural shit is fake and mostly relies on dumb character drama to somehow make the main love interests important.
It's fine here but some episodes had really big bug eyes for Haruhi.
Overall it's not bad, but it's a good thing Kyoani stopped doing the keyshit thing and made designs less static in S2/movie.
The last novel established Haruhi has a fail-safe with Yasumi, Yuki's finally doing okay, Kyon's sister's friend might be up to something, the Sasaki group is of splintered, and things are kind of moving toward the endgame, with that college flash-forward. Tanigawa could either have a random adventure (like Sigh), or have another plot-advancing book, either would be fine and shouldn't be particularly difficult to write.
I get the feeling Tanigawa wanted to distance himself from the series, due to the pressure of creating something that became so popular. He probably felt overwhelmed and just said screw it. At least, that's the feeling I get from the afterword in Surprise.
Face structure always seemed distinctly northern Vietnamese in season 1 to me for some reason.
I love how Tanigawa got us into thinking shit would go down with Yuki's problems in Disappearance, Haruhi's egoism in the first volumes, Koizumi and Mikuru trying to warn Kyon against each other, only to end up showing the brigade more united than ever, getting over their differences and be all grown up in a way.