Is Koyomi a sick lolicon?

Even worse, he's in denial.

He can't be a lolicon if he's about as tall as the lolis

only oddity lolis. he doesn't care about regular human lolis

>>153434654
Except for that time he ran into loli Hanekawa and pre-ghost snail.

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Impossible.

>>153434738
>deadfish

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>>153434766

>>153434738
>Trusting what Araragi "I'm going to grope and kiss my little sisters to prove I'm not into incest" Koyomi says

>>153434682
hanekawa is a special case and she's basically an oddity

>>153434796
What the heck, who said something about "argument"? I'm just saying you're a newfag for watching an old anime like Nise in DeadFish.

>>153434945
Not at 6.

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>>153434471
where did you get a crazy idea like that from?

>>153435059
She's around 450 yo. That doesn't make him a paedophile.

>>153435138
She's 598, and they're both pedophiles.

>>153435059
I don't get the Italian reference? Maybe Casanova?

>>153434471
He's healthy.

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>>153435059
Why is Shinobu so erotic?

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>>153435230
shes racist and hes a rapist.

>>153435305
science cant determine the cause of it, its a mystery

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>>153435305
Because SHE is the pedo.

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>>153435305
Because she is completely used to the knowledge that she is the sexiest.

>>153435353
You can't rape the willing.

>>153434738

He squeezes her chest like mochi balls in one of his many molestation greetings.

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>>153435357

I can confirm that Araragi is not a lolicon. He shows no interest in those girls.
There seems to be a misunderstanding that people think he is a lolicon. But As I have previously stated. Araragi is not a lolicon. He has a girlfriend after all.

t. Not Araragi.

>>153434471
Read the LN, he's unironically a pedophile.

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>>153436238
That cannot be! He spent an entire chapter explaining quite the opposite!

>>153436075
I have a gf who is 24 and I'm a paedocon (I'm 26).
You're pojnt?

>>153436363
This. He told us he isn't. Clearly he isn't.

>>153436238
When does he say that?

>>153436238
he prefers adult shinobu to loli version. pedophiles wouldn't even get boners from cowtits.

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>>153436075
>t. Not Araragi.

>>153437989
He says that he's not a pedophile during moments when it is completely unnecessary, knows a bit about how pedophiles act, and remembers Hachikuji's panties and breasts in detail.

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Araragi lives in a state of constant denial.

>>153438605
Sounds like he's not a lolicon.

I saw Little Children movie and there was an actual pedophile in that movie. He was only attracted to children. Araragi is different because his taste in women covers the whole spectrum and If he were an actual pedophile he would have looked at least a bit aroused when he took a bath with Shinobu and he didn't even remotely seemed aroused.

>>153439070
>not picking up on the obvious sexual tension during that scene

It's like you weren't even paying attention

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>>153438670
definitely not a lolicon.

>>153439141
The only reason why you could say there was any sexual tension was because they were both naked in a bath. They might as well be father and daughter.

>>153434471
>[Mayoi Snail Ch.4]
>Incidentally, that was when I saw Hachikuji Mayoi’s carefree smile for the first time. It was quite charming and it seemed to open my heart. The usual way of describing that type of smile was to say it was like a blooming sunflower, but it was also the type of smile that most people stopped making after getting much older than her.
>“Sigh. Oh, god.”
>That was a close one. If I was a lolicon, I would fallen for her there. I really am glad I’m not a lolicon.

He confirmed it himself that he's not, fuck off with these troll threads already.

>>153439841
is that from the official bake translation? does any anon own it?

>>153439891
Nah, it's from the old baka-tsuki translation before they pulled it down after it got officially published in the west.

>>153439502
Except for the part where Shinobu caught Araragi looking at her ass and he was reduced to a blushing, stammering mess for a bit.

>>153439944
not his fault that she was literally flaunting her butt to get a reaction out of him and even then it was mild.

>>153439841
t. Araragi Koyomi

>>153434471
>lolicon
>sick
Pick one

>>153435138
Pedophilia is about physical development, not age.

>>153440357
Is Taiga a loli then? Does that mean Ryuji is a pedo?

>>153440045
But that's still sexual tension between the two of them.

>>153440308
t. pedo

>>153434471

He looks like a healthy lolicon to me. Can he even get sick?

>>153440598
>Can he even get sick?

I don't think he can't even get any diseases due to his regeneration.

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>>153440045
He was still flustered enough for Shinobu to grab the entire conversation by the balls. Then there was his passionate talk about how the ribs and collarbones are the best part of a loli. Then there was his "joking" french kiss with Shinobu.

>>153440439
Allow me to define some terms, since anons in this thread seem to be confused about what exactly a pedophile is.

A Pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children. As Shinobu's standard form is that of an 8 year old, this >>153439944 implies Araragi is a Pedophile, regardless of his attraction to older girls. Though there is the possibility that due to her being aged and de-aged across the series that he was fantasizing about older shinobu (I have not read the LN).

Then there is hebephiles, which are people with a preference for early pubescents. From what we see in Tora Dora, Taiga has small hips and breasts, so she has clearly started puberty. However, due to the lack of fine detail in anime we are unable to tell the difference between petite and childlike, especially with Japanse girls sometimes being absolutely tiny. Though assuming she is the latter, Ryuuji would still need to have chosen her due to preferring her body over the other girls to qualify, as anything within puberty is within the "normal range" of sexuality, even ordinarily would never consider it, most have some degree of attraction to girls of this age.

Lastly are Ephebophiles and Teleiophiles, these are a preference for mid-late pubescent and post-pubescent/adults respectively. These are the normal Erotic Age Orientations, in the same way Heterosexuality is the normal sexual orientation.

>>153440988
Taiga is 17 and loli Shinobu unironically has bigger hips than her.

>>153441059
It is true that in the anime Shinobu's hips do seem greatly exaggerated for an 8 year old, Perhaps that implies that Araragi is viewing her with a more adult body than she actually possesses.

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Hachikuji kinda got the hots for him too.

>>153441143
nah she's just a sex machine

>>153440988
I mean Humbert Humbert would prefer young Shinobu over adult Kiss-shot anyday and Araragi states many times that he prefers her adult form. His lust for Hanekawa is also bigger than his supposed lust for any loli in the series.

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>>153441192
this
Nearly 600 years of pent up sexual violence waiting to be unleashed.

>>153441263
Humbert Humbert is more likely a hebephile, given the ages of girls he perfers. In addition you can be a pedophile who prefers prepubescents, but a preference is not necessary to be qualified as a pedophile.

>>153440819
delete

>>153441263
He seems like a complicated guy that Araragi.

>>153440988
>Hebephile
>Pedophile
>Ephebophile
>Teleiophile

what if you're all of those and you don't have a preference? what are you called?

>>153441758
Really horny

>>153441758
Pansexual,
Its to be all-inclusive of everything but it may also covers item-based fetishes, bestiality, incest, and much more...

>>153440308
everyone knows lolicons are immune to diseases

>>153441758
No idea, I really only know the basics, so I can't help you. Though I guess if you include sex as well as age, Pansexual would probably fit.

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>>153441426

>>153441758
That reminds me, has Araragi shown maybe sexual tension/interest yet in boys or at least traps?

>>153442185
Not at all.

>>153442185
He seemed pretty unfazed when Ougi was invading his personal space in Owari.

>>153442385
Why on earth would he get turned on by himself?

>>153435024

Especially at 6. Because what six year old thinks like this:

>"Suicide. She tied her neck with a rope. As a suicide technique it is very common -- that it happened right above the crib and was a little novelty, though."

>She looked like a mobile.

>Hanekawa said.

>As if it was a trivial thing.

>As if she was talking about the outline of a TV drama seen long time ago.

>She was talking about her past.

>About memories of a period which no memories should have been left of.

Her last memory of her mother. Pretty chilling. So yeah, even then, cute loli Tsubasa-chan was hiding some heavy shit. But then again, her abnormality came about because she tried to be normal so hard nobody could tell.

>>153442385
Why would anyone get "phased" by being in their own personal space?

>>153442463
I mean it goes both ways doesn't it? Ougi deliberately acts lewd around him. What does that imply?

>>153442549
She acts lewd around everyone, Araragi is a slut.

>>153442601
Not around Snake. Only around Araragi and Monkey and they're both basically like her parents

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>>153442482
>catfag spouting irrelevant bullshit to make the thread about their waifu

inb4 "Buh-but it's technically related if I pretend the post was making an argument it wasn't."

>>153442684
To the LNfags who have read the latest LNs, is Kanbaru aware of Ougi's true identity?

>>153442185
For all his perversions he's straight as an arrow

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>>153442726
why are snailfags so defensive?

>>153442726
>talks about being like an oddity and fucked up mind
>somehow equates to shipping bullshit
fuck off, stop trying to incite fights

>>153442794
It's still entirely unclear.

Kanbaru mentions that she had talked to Ougi-kun recently, so I assume she has to know something to not question why he's still a high school student after all these years.

>>153442950
This doujin >>153442074 was amazing.

>>153442952
If you don't like people insulting you then maybe try staying on topic and not being an insufferable, attention whoring cunt every thread?

>>153443016
Kanbaru's also the type of person not to think too deeply into shit. Like in Hana, she didn't pursue the question of Ougi's gender.

>>153442794
She doesn't mind the fact that she becomes a boy in Hana so I'm sure she's aware of her true identity.

>>153443157
That was less a Kanbaru thing and more because Ougi has an effect on people that can make them just go along with whatever she says. It happens a lot when Araragi doesn't remember something she mentions but eventually shrugs it off.

That said, I guess it's likely Ougi just pulled the same shit regarding their age.

Someone should really fucking get Kanbaru in the loop already, if that's the case. Araragi a shit.

>>153443106
Are you new?
Practically every type of thread in 4chan would have people going off-topic from the OP to certain replies.

>>153443263
If you weren't new you'd know that catfags try to hijack threads constantly.

>>153443385
Is that really any different than Batfags who suddenly talk about her? Its just in this case, Bat is related to the topic.

>>153443237
>It happens a lot when Araragi doesn't remember something she mentions but eventually shrugs it off.

I thought that had more to do with the fact that he didn't want to remember those things in the first place.

>>153443466
To add, Cat is also still related to the topic as, if you checked out the comment chain, this all started cause someone claimed that Araragi only harasses lolis who are oddities.

>>153443546
I'm not talking about things like Sodachi. Just smaller things like, "Hey, how did we get here again?" or "Wait, did I actually tell you that thing before?" The same thing happens with Nadeko and Kanbaru, so it's an Ougi-specific thing.

>>153434471
He say's he isn't, I trust him.

>>153436414
Reported to proper authorities.

>>153436414
So you like pedos?

>>153439925
Are there any scans available of the Viz translation anyway? I'm really curious how they handled a lot of the scenes.

>>153443788
not 3dpd paedos. 2d are fine.

>>153442074
I'm begging you for sauce

>>153443969
Pretty sure searching loli and hanekawa should turn it up

>>153435230
Italians kiss as a greeting, so perhaps in Europe when Shinobu was being raised Italians were stereotyped to kiss everybody.

>>153444019
ty xir https://exhentai.org/g/1019457/1df629e189/

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>>153443969
Oh why not? Everyone needs to experience such beauty. Go forth mein comrade!
https://exhentai.org/g/1019457/1df629e189/

The whole lolicon aspect of Araragi's character is basically Nisio shitting on the "nice guy" MC trope. We find out that Senjougahara was molested during Hitagi Crab and then during Mayoi Snail, Araragi basically molests Hachikuji just for the sake of it. At the end of the arc Senjougahara says he likes Araragi because he's "nice" but we already know he isn't nice. I mean, this was obviously done on purpose and is probably one of the reasons why the series is so divisive.

>>153444379
You're talking as if people who molests can't be nice.

>>153444379
You're overthinking it. Nisio just thinks it's a funny gag.

>>153444379
He's a nice molster, he touches their no-no spots softly. Crab obviously got the rough creepy uncle treatment.

>>153444437
In Japan if you molest girls on the train they blush and apologize

>>153444379

Well, let's be honest, you weren't paying attention if you thought Araragi was some nice, normal guy.

Hell, look at Neko Black, if that didn't really hit home the twisted nature of his and Cat's relationship, and bring home further things we would see later. It even brings into perspective why Ougi acts the way she does with her over interactions with anyone else.

I am still amazed in Musubi that his reverence for her has hardly changed, his subordinate nature towards her seems to have gotten stronger if anything.

>>153443594
>inb4 "Buh-but it's technically related if I pretend the post was making an argument it wasn't."

>>153444567
Neko Black was written later though. I was referring to the first two arcs in the series because they were written at the same time.

>>153444442
>a funny gag
I don't know.

Technically, he is partly afflicted by vampirism.

>>153443889
>Viz
Did you mean Vertical?

>>153445926
How does being a vampire turns someone into a lolicon?

>>153446914
No but having a 10/10 loli vampire at all times who occasionally pops up and grab your dick for shits and giggles probably does.

>>153439891
The version in the Vertical translation:
The carefree smile I'd just seen from Mayoi Hachikujiwas a rather charming thing. It was a wholehearted smile. To say it was like a flower in bloom might be a cliché, but it was the kind of expression that most people lose the ability to make once they grow up.
"Phew... Jeez"
I'd put myself in a dangerous position once again. Were I a pedophile, my heart would've been won oven. Ah, how fortunate that I wasn't one...

>>153446914
he's talking about the "sick" part.

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>>153447000
>who occasionally pops up and grab your dick

Post proof THIS INSTANT.

>>153447046
When she washes his dick in the bath, dummy.

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>>153447086
Are you 100% you aren't just thinking of a doujin?

>>153434471
>sick lolicon
Isn't this redundant?

>>153446728
Yeah, must've gotten my wires crossed.

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>>153435357
The only con is here is shinbou

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>>153449891
She's going to take him home with her!

>>153442185
Closest there was to that was Kanbaru telling him when he called her on her phone that he interrupted her wet fantasy involving him & Meme. Koyomi seemed more bothered by Kanbaru not telling him if he was a top or bottom in said fantasy than anything else.

>>153436363
Which one was this chapter on?

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>>153434601
just like any anti-pedos iRL who are in denial when asked if they liked OLD HAGS to be so triggered with anything loli.

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>>153434471
>lolicon
do you like OLD HAGS why are you so triggered with anything lolis? are you a ROASTIE? a LANDWHALE?

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>>153434471
He's immortal, so I believe he's a healthy lolicon.

>>153444052
>Italians kiss as a greeting
Where does this meme come from?

Italians will kiss family members

on the cheek

as a greeting

We don't just walk into the office

"Oh buongiorno Luigi." and then slob each other like a pair of fucking faggots

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>>153450150
Well, Shinobu and Araragi share blood.

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>>153450173

>>153450195
THE MADMAN

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>>153450214
and then three months later she gets sent to Buddhist hell

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>>153450150
That sounds like an excellent comedy skit.

>>153450195
>>153450214
>>153450235
Their relationship is pretty cute when you remove the fact that they're addicted to molesting each other.

>>153450296
What's wrong with playing grab ass?

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>>153450296
Makes it even cuhotter

>>153450235
And then six months later he hauls her out of hell and makes her into a goddess. Then he fucks off from the town she's enshrined in and then comes back but doesn't see her because he's too busy getting depressed about how he'll end up leaving again. I wonder how much he gets smacked upside the head for his bullshit.

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>>153450235
Hachikuji is so precious.

>>153434471
>Is Koyomi a sick lolicon?

Is OP a roastie who can't get attention from alpha males being too busy with their attraction to young teen pussy?

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I wonder why Ougi mentioned nothing about his Lolicon ways.

>>153450235
Jesus Christ, just marry already.

>>153450387

That's the Araragi way. He worries about shit way too fucking much, that is why the whole Ougi thing happened and I guess by what you say he doesn't change much in Musubi.

>>153450295
There's a couple Mitchell and Web skits like that.

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>>153450481
It's a shame, I'm sure Senjougahara would be in Hanekawa's position if Hachikuji didn't have to die so young.

>>153450214
>come to me
So that's why she keeps tackling Arararagi whenever she sees him.

>>153450214
and when she has a craving for dick too I guess

>>153434471
Who isn't a lolicon?

>>153435059
How can Koyomi do shit like this to Senjo?

>>153451767
It's easy since he's already doing shit like Senjou to Shinobu.

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>>153451698
People from the UN.

>>153451767
Because he's a helpless lolicon

>>153451767
>its fine cause its a little girl
notice how he hasnt pulled this type of shit to any of the other girls close to his age like kanbaru or hanekawa?

>>153451767
Crab a shit, so who cares.

>>153451767

Because she's basically the girl he's least attracted to, and in his backwards idealized idea of love thinks that he has to tie his emotions to her for that. It's about the hardest case of first-girl obligation that can be fund in manga; he's already basically confessed that he feels the most strongly for Shinobu since he knows she'd literally destroy humanity for him and will be with him for centuries after Senjo is dead. He's not far off with snail, once he realized she was breaking the supernatural laws of reality for him. There's not even subtext anymore about the fact that Bee sis is willing to go full on open public incest relationship if it means she can have him. And Kanbaru, Shinobu, his sisters and even Senjo expect that he'll eventually end up with Cat, despite his arguing that even though he's always wanted and still does want her, he'll never actually go for her. Because reasons.

In short, he likes pretty much every girl except Cake and Snake more than her and realize all of them love him more than Senjo, but he can't break himself not to care for and stay with Crab because he feels he *has* to love her.

>>153439502
There is always sexual tension between those two. How fucking new are you?

daily reminder that araragi was a regular boy before kizu and he became a pedo due to shinobu's influence. she was mad that she turned him into a loli and she seeked revenge and turning her omae-sama into a pedo was that retaliation

he turned her*

>>153451767
They break up like 3 times
Bat will always be there for him

>>153449930
She will adore the shit out of him

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>>153450195
How can you not love Araragi

>>153455379
>Regular
Don't go giving wrong information fucking secondary

>>153450047
>>153450072
>>153450097
>>153450115
>>153450145
>>153450173
>>153450195
>>153450214
>>153450235
cute

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>>153454920
>he's already basically confessed that he feels the most strongly for Shinobu since he knows she'd literally destroy humanity for him and will be with him for centuries after Senjo is dead.
Gean in the latest translated chapter told Araragi that he basicly chose a little girl over Crab and Cat.

But like every fucking decision this guy makes he questions wether that was the right decision.

>>153441313
There is no regeneration that's gonna save him from that pounding she is gonna give him.

>>153447000
They both developed Rip fetishes for each other. I guess he wants to grab big bat tats

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>>153455646
Why are they so perfect together?

>>153455835
Is that fucking Shinobu in Kizu?

>>153455861
Yep

>>153450115

>"I've been walking for a long time"

Really puts six year old Hanekawa into perspective. She really did raise herself.

>>153455646

It's just his warped mentality, he could make the excuse in his mind because to him, Hanekawa is the ultimate person, so he sent Kanbaru to save Senjougahara, not to save Hanekawa. If Gaen had said Senjou's house was burning now, and/or Hanekawa was dying right now, he would have no leg room and would be mentally broke.

In a hypothetical question of who he would save between Bat/Cat/Crab, he answered to Shinobu he would consult Hanekawa, that shows to him, she is someone he depends on, but we already knew that with Neko Black in that final scene.

Hanekawa is the Mom, Senjou is the girlfriend, Shinobu is the Partner. That is how it is, and how it shall be until someone busts Araragi's balls enough for him to change, which will likely be Hanekawa, but only if Nisio wants to be cruel. But since he IS cruel to characters he prefers, "Bishoujo Goroshi" that he is, it might just happen.

>>153434471
He's both a sick lolicon and a sick siscon.
Kanbaru is right to be worried about Karen.

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Reminder that koyomi never raped anybody

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adult is better

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>>153442074
>loli Hanekawa
>Tanabe Kyou

My erection was so fierce, I was hospitalized

>>153457738
She deserves more art.

>>153451767
Senjou true love is Kaiki anyway. The only reason she and Araragi are together is because it's convenient

>>153442726
How the fuck did you even come to that conclusion

>>153458484
Anti-Catfags act like retards, nothing new.

>>153458744
It's just Kevin-kun shitting up another thread.

>>153456721
But isn't Kanbaru also a pervert that will abuse Karen on the first sigh?

>>153456628
Don't forgot Deathtopia, she is gonna pay a visit next volume probably

>>153459157
Her inner monologues in Hana note that she was just teasing Koyomi about that, and that she'd never do something like that which would potentially strain her relationship with Koyomi.

He's basically her equivalent of Hanekawa, though it's not quite as extreme a relationship as the Koyomi/Hanekawa one.

>>153450462
Not something he feels guilt over, evidently.

>>153459729
>Not something he feels guilt over, evidently.

He shouldn't really. One of the loli's is a 500 year old vampire and the other is a 22 year old ghost. It's not like he molested real living lolis except for Hanekawa

>>153460040
did he actually molest loli hanekawa in the LN or was that a shaft thing?

>>153460040
I'd molest loli cat too, before she grows those disgusting cow tits.

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>>153460156

>>153435059
what episode is this from?, i think it's time i rewatch

>>153435059

When the hell did this happen?

How could I forget this scene?

>>153460101
He didn't really molest her in the adaptation either.

>>153460417
Nah from the look of the angle he was positioned towards a cowering Hanekawa, if Shinobu wasn't there to stop him, he would have started molesting her.

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>>153460290
>>153460322
How the hell can you forget that scene?

>>153456628
>Hanekawa is the Mom, Senjou is the girlfriend, Shinobu is the Partner. That is how it is
But that's not what his actions show. When Doll confronted Araragi's bullshit in Shinobu Mail, Araragi said that he still thinks that everyone is unhappy. But, what is Araragi's happy ending then? Is it Araragi becoming human and Shinobu dying?

Back in Owari he had the perfect chance to get very close to that happy ending. He had the chance to become human, rid Shinobu of her vampire status and live a good life together with his girlfriend, without risking the chance that he would outlive any of his loved ones. So, why did he refuse? The chance to be "happy" was presented on a silver platter and he turned it away and went back to where he started. He chose Shinobu over the chance to live and die with Senjougahara, but at the same time he wants to marry her and keep Shinobu around. This is gonna cause problems. He even said that his reasons for refusing to make shinobu not into a god are simply based of selfish reasons.

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>>153460663
By rite of blood, he's pretty much married to Shinobu

>>153435353
araragi is the luckiest mc ever

>>153442074
>tfw there's no Tanabe Kyou book featuring the entire female cast as lolis
>loli Senjougahara, disgusted by her boyfriend's deviancy
>loli Sodachi, too small and weak to resist Araragi's attacks
>loli Ougi that somehow knows all about Araragi's preferences
>loli Gaen that still acts smug and superior
>loli Araragi's mom, worried because of her son's immoral lust for little girls
Now I've made myself sad because it's never going to exist.

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>>153460807
He earned it in Kizu

>>153460950
I like Tanabe Kyou but honestly he's pretty bad at anatomy sometimes.

>>153461030
Shinobu is literally perfect and he gets to spend forever with her

When's Koyomi going to dump Senjo? She's the shittiest girl in the entire series

>>153461090
who?

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>>153461090
I think you mean hanekawa

>>153461085
He offered her his life without an expectation of coming back. Would you have done the same?

>>153461090
Gaen's the worst. She could easily be cool but is instead an annoying exposition machine. Even in the LNs it's obnoxious and in the anime her great VA isn't enough to salvage her character.

>>153461226
my life is completely meaningless and I'm a worthless powerless human. if it meant some beautiful goddess gets to live then without hesitation.

>>153461030
Not really and I don't know why Batfags always say this.

>>153461557
1. Offered his life for her
2. Defeated the same dudes who nearly killed her and were planning on finishing the job

He's literally her savior and hero. All the other girls except Mayoi just got some counselling from him, he went to war for her.

>>153461718
He offered his life for her, and then later proceeded to throw a shitfit at her because he didn't think through the consequences of his own choice to save a vampire. He's still bitching and moaning about how he won't forgive her when it was always his fault.

If Shinobu is happy with him, more power to her. But no, he didn't "earn" it.

>>153461879
>But no, he didn't "earn" it.

Sorry, but his little bit of whining later doesn't negate his actions. And you know what they say, actions speak louder than words. Deal with it.

>>153461918
Little bit of whining? He resolved to kill her. Just because he went back on THAT doesn't negate it, either.

>>153461879
How the fuck did he not earn it? He literally turned her from a murdering psychopath to a cute donut lover who matches outfits with him. You're probably a bitter Catfag.

>>153461965
Just a few bumps in the road like any relationship.

>>153461982
My point is that he himself did very little to deserve so much affection and devotion from her. He came into her life at the right time and it's nice that it worked out, but he basically got lucky given how much he fucked up.

Also, what? I'm not even shitting on Bat, I'm shitting on Araragi. Batfags are the most weirdly defensive people.

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>>153462093
>My point is that he himself did very little to deserve so much affection and devotion from her.

She would have bled out if not for him.
She would have been killed if he didn't stop her enemies.

Shinobu isn't like Nadeko where all Koyomi did was hang out with her a few times.

>>153461072
I agree. I only suggested Tanabe Kyou because he's the only artist I remember doing Monogatari books with multiple lolis at the same time.

>>153461965
>>153461965
He resolved himself into killing her, though he never wanted to do it, but he felt that it was his duty as a ''human'' Most of his resolve came from his idea that he thought that Kiss-Shot was a bad person. He realized (because of Hanekawa) that Kiss-shot was trying to make him kill in order to turn Araragi back into a human, thus correcting her mistake of turning him into a vampire and dying herself. He said it plainly, he never wanted to kill her. He even commented that he found it way to sad.

I just wonder that would have happend if Oshio did not give an other option at that moment.

>>153462093
>literally changed her way of living after 500 years of suffering
>did little

How the fuck could you even say that? Sounds like a bitter Catfag.

>>153462249
Ending a woman's 500 years of lonely death-infused suffering and bringing her true happiness for the first time since she was human isn't really all that much.

>>153462249
You can't just keep citing "HE CHAAANGED HER" without saying anything specific he actually did.

>>153461090
Shinobu and Hanekawa are too good for him. If he got his life in order and prioritized his shit he maybe could be worth Shinobu but he's not doing that. Hanekawa is just too different to him (look at her lifestyle in Musubi) it just wouldn't work.

Senjougahara, Kanbaru and Hachikuji are probably the most suited for him. One of those three is a lesbian/his best friend and the other is a ghost loli goddess/his other best friend, and Japan doesn't like shipping MCs with their best friends.

Sodachi is who Nisio will stick Araragi with at the end of all this as a gag. She'll still hate him and he'll still be unable to see her as a female.

>>153462093
Araragi was the first person to actually offer his neck to her in almost 600 years as a vampire. That in itself meant everything to her.

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>>153462329
Watch/Read Kizu

>>153462245
This doesn't address the fact that he still won't "forgive" her.

>>153462329
You can still keep being in denial after getting proved wrong.

>>153462367
I obviously have.

>>153462346
It makes sense why Shinobu fell for him; I'm just saying he doesn't actually deserve it.

>>153462407
But you literally haven't proven anything. You just keep making the same vague statement.

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>>153462451

>>153442185
Well, considering half of the heroines look like men with tits (Kanbaru even sounds like a man), I think he's hella gay.

>>153462313
Of course it isn't

>>153462451
What exactly would he need to do to "deserve" it? He put his own life at stake several times for a complete stranger who was also isolated and hatred by 99% of the people she encountered. What else would he need to do?

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>>153462451
what the fuck?

>>153462383
He's a pro when it comes to delusion.

>>153462512
Thank you for proving that Batfags don't know how to do anything but cream themselves about how pure and tragic their waifu is and can't have any actual discussion.

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>>153462451
>Araragi was the first person to actually offer his neck to her in almost 600 years as a vampire. That in itself meant everything to her.
>It makes sense why Shinobu fell for him; I'm just saying he doesn't actually deserve it.

>>153462608
Nekokawa lost, get over it

>>153462498
Probably because you're being a faggot and you don't deserve it.

Sorry faggots, but Koyomi Fascination.

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>>153462451
>being this jelly about the whims of a 2d woman

>>153462608
People are talking about Araragi, not Bat specifically.

>>153462710
Yes, I realize. But it's always Batfags who are married to the idea that Araragi is Bat's perfect prince and any suggestion otherwise is a slight against her somehow.

Note that I've been accused of being a "bitter Catfag" several times when I never even mentioned him being any better for other girls.

>>153462451
How does that even work? If it makes sense for Shinobu why would you care unless you're an autistic waifufag?

>>153462335
>spoiler
I wanna say no but Nisio's taken a weird liking to her and she keeps showing up/getting randomly mentioned each LN now.

Well it's not like this shit will ever end anyway.

>>153462849
Probably because that anon hates Araragi.

>>153462608
After her first experience with a servant and his death, having someone she ordered to die for her, give her his life out of his own free will, is not something little. Araragi took responsibilty and offered her his life once more at the end of Kizu, that he will live together with her till the day they die. At this point I think he is deserving, sacrificing his own happiness for her.

>>153462807
>Bat's perfect prince
He is not perfect, far from it. Most of the time he is a fucking scumbag. But does he deserved Bat?

In my opinion he does

>>153462985
Fair enough. His behavior towards Bat especially tends to rub me the wrong way, hence my argument, but different strokes.

>>153434471
Of course not

>[Mayoi Snail Ch.4]
>Incidentally, that was when I saw Hachikuji Mayoi’s carefree smile for the first time. It was quite charming and it seemed to open my heart. The usual way of describing that type of smile was to say it was like a blooming sunflower, but it was also the type of smile that most people stopped making after getting much older than her.
>“Sigh. Oh, god.”
>That was a close one. If I was a lolicon, I would fallen for her there. I really am glad I’m not a lolicon.

>>153434966
its a meme you dip

>>153435059
it must feel so good to mouthfuck loli shinobu like this

>>153462807
When you're not providing proper arguments because it doesn't suit your opinion then expect to get shat on.

>>153462807
Araragi is an ungrateful little shit, but he steps up to the plate and puts his life on the line when it really counts. Just being someone who cares about Shinobu for who she is and accepting her into his life took some fucking guts before she calmed down. Shinobu Mail made it abundantly clear that he's not her perfect prince, but the work he's done, the sacrifices he's made, and the faith he has in her are worth more than that.

Now excuse me while I rage over how much of a faggot he is.

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>>153462451
>It makes sense why Shinobu fell for him; I'm just saying he doesn't actually deserve it.

Not even a batfag but this is retarded.

>>153460156
> disgusting cow tits.
You're gay, son.

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>>153464127
I like them small to non existent.

>>153464184
That means you're a homosexual that happens to like cunts.

>>153464248
>all that projection

>>153464320
No. If you are a man you need to like big tits. You may even like the small ones too, I do, but you can't like women if you don't like the big ones too.

You should fapping to Buck Angel, you'll enjoy.

>>153461090
This.

Redditgahara a shit.

>>153464370
>googles buck angel

how would you even be aware of gay shit like buck angel unless you're a gaylord yourself?

>>153464370
>still projecting
It's OK to be gay anon. It's alright for you to come out of the closet. I suggest to go browse /lgbt/ and quite shitting up these threads.

>>153464476
Enough time on the Internet. I'm no 1990 underage like you.
>>153464483
>projecting
>says a guy that doesn't like cowtits
I think you don't know the meaning of this word, lad.

>>153463942
How does it not make sense? People can fall for someone who doesn't deserve them.

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>>153464575
look anon, I spend a lot of time on the internet too and I didn't know buck angel existed.

>>153464675
I bet he makes and faps to trap threads.

>>153463942

Not that other guy, but what is often forgotten is that he saved her out of a mix of pity and feeling he was a worthless being. Its not a healthy relationship, not then and not now. But neither is his relationships with Gahara and Hanekawa healthy either.

He likes her, but more than that, he still harbors the same unhealthy part that beleives he must take responsibility, even when he could free her from being a vampire forever, free her from her curse before that, and live a good life with his girlfriend. And like most things in Monogatari, there is something behind this other than him being altruistic, and he is selfish in a sense more than just wanting to be with Shinobu. The twisted sense of responsibility and the inability to accept a resoltion that would help everyone is gonna bite him in the ass and it'll bit hard.

hey, >>153464575
Anonymous here

you are gay, fyi

>>153464723
Traps and shotas don't have tits, you should like them.
>>153464675
Well, now you do. I was like you when I first found out about him.

>>153464656
Probably because that's not the case with Araragi and Bat. I mean even if he believes they won't be happy (which he doesn't anymore) he accepted her in his shadow and into his private life and family and she fucking loves it.

>>153462335
Still mad that Mayoi doesn't even show up in Musubi. To my understanding Tsukuhi Undo is the only time she formally appeared in Off-Season, she's at sub-Hitagi levels of focus now.

>>153464843
>i secretely want to suck dick
>i have to force my nasty fetish on others

>>153458045
Maybe if/when Zokuowari gets animated. Though she's wearing a shrine maiden outfit there instead of survival gear I think.

>>153465792
even better

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>>153465792
Why the balloons?

>>153467138

Think about how it feels to hold a balloon.

Imagine back to your childhood. No matter what happened, you always held on tightly to that balloon, because the moment you let go, it's gone forever. It only takes a single moment of carelessness for your mind to wander away and your grip to lessen. Suddenly, it's gone just like that. There's nothing you can do. All you can do is stare as it drifts out of your sight. All you have left is the memory of the balloon, that sensation of that delicate string in your hand. Up until that point, the balloon was always on your mind, regardless of what you were doing. And now it's gone.

I have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about. I just started talking about balloons and I have no clue if it relates at all. But it sounds like it might.[

>>153467467
It would have been a nice analogy if Hachikuji had actually left for good.

>>153462367
Is Shinobu even bigger than Hanekawa on her full for?

>>153468870
They're about the same.

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>>153468870
It's just the lack of bra

>>153468899
shinobu is bigger because she's taller. hanekawa is a femlet

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>>153468899
Araragi commented that her bust size could rival even Kiss-Shots.

>>153469267
no

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>>153469320

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>>153469372
Has Araragi confirmed one way or the other?

>>153469453
Well, he's gotten some hands/face-on time with Kiss-Shot, but not with Hanekawa.

>>153469453
Yes, when her powers were fully restored, she jumped around happily for 2 hours making her breast bounch all over the place.

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>>153469453
He said this>>153469320 which means Kiss-shot's might be bigger. Then again Cat is also a beast.

No real man would touch something nasty and unwomanly like a loli. Real men want real women with real curves.

>>153469549
t. 6 year old girl

He's a non-exclusive pedophile.

>>153441758
Enlightened

>>153449891
>>153449930
Oh, this is nice.

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>>153470282

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>>153464458
This trash meme needs to go back to >>>/v/

>>153470635
It keeps making crabfags butthurt, so it's gonna stick around a while longer.

>>153470635
>meme
But the truth, Reddit.

>>153471928
It doesn't make sense, but feel free to keep posting it. It's just another cancer.

>>153471619
>>153471928
not even a crabfag but ad redditum is fucking cancer.

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Senjougahara is by far the best girl and the fact that she has had sex with with Araragi unlike any other supposed best girl is proof positive.

>>153472272
Here comes the compensator.

>>153472272
>namefag
>crabfag
>baitposting

fuck off faggot

>>153472272
>Implying he hasn't fucked Bee at least once

>>153441758
You get turned on by everything that moves or what anon?

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>>153472311
Nope
>>153472323
Oops forgot my name was on also kill yourself crab is best girl
>>153472325
Bee is almost as good as crab and would be crabs number 1 rival if she wasn't Araragi sister.

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>>153472272
She also fucked Kaiki

>>153472396
>Would be number 1 if she wasn't his sister

Being his sister makes it even better

>>153472440
You do realize that opening is non-canon dumbass?

>comfy monogatari thread
>crabfag derail

every single time

>>153472592
It's usually bat, cat, or crabfags fighting over who his soul mate is.

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>>153472776
Fuck off if you aren't a crabfag you aren't a true gatari fan!

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>"What of the one who named the legendary oddity(ies) Araragi Koyomi confronts?"

So with Araragi meeting Deathtopia in the next novel, what are the chances that she ends up dead? If she were to die, would Shinobu become human again even though she's still connected with Araragi?

And will we meet best boi again to deal with her?

>>153472776
Which is silly because out of those three, only one of them gets to hold his hand as they descend into hell together.

>>153472905
I'm pretty sure that Shinobu has long become a vampire in her own right- like what was starting to happen with Araragi- so Deathtopia dying wouldn't really do much to her.

>>153472905
Shinobu is literally the most powerful oddity of all time. Deathtopia is a meme.

>>153472173
>>153472020
Not as much cancer as Redditgahara herself and Reddit itself though.

>>153472997
>>153473034
Has it ever been stated that a powerful vampire can cheat da rules and just ignore their master dying? It wouldn't be much of a suprise since Shinobu can do practically everything, but I wonder whether this was clarified in the novels

>>153473246
You can't even explain what makes her "Reddit"

>>153473288
"reddit" is 4chan lingo for "something I don't like"

>>153473394
I think you mean /v/ lingo

>>153473394
>>153473438
>t. Redditors

>>153444069
araragi looks too THICC in this doujin

>>153472881
>picking your image from MAL

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>>153472533
You're a retard. Obviously Kaiki and Senjou didn't go vacationing in Malibu but it's a metaphor of their relationship and Kaiki was the first.

>>153450235
>Buddhist hell
Why Buddhist hell? What did snail do wrong?

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>>153473605
look at the size of his thighs. it's not even fair

>>153473760
Refused to pass on and racked up bad karma getting people perpetually lost over the years.

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>>153473760
Buddhist Hell is retarded

She is sent to the highest level for dying before her parents. She will eventually be saved, but it's still stupid

Meanwhile, Teori "Can a Necromancer be Lawful Good?" Tadatsuru is in heaven

>>153473827
Sounds like me. What shall I do?

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>>153474016
Convert to Christianity and repent

>>153472905
I just wonder how she is gonna react seeing Araragi and what Shinobu's current situation.

>>153474171
I have a feeling it'll be something along the lines of "at least make the guy yours if you're gonna give up so much for him."

>>153474171
Deathtopia should meet Araragi for the first time while he's doing something outrageous to have Shinobu's situation have maximum effect

Like while he's riding on Karen's shoulders, beating up Hachikuji or molesting either of his sisters.